The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 288 - O'Reilly's Out -- What Does It Mean For The Right?

With the release of Jonathan Allen and Parnes' Shattered inside Hillary Clinton's doomed 2016 campaign, the patina of credibility surrounding her presidential campaign has finally imploded. We know that her campaign was plagued by infighting, stupidity, and arrogance. And yet today, Democrats who worked on Hillary s campaign were concerned with demonstrating that everybody on the campaign got along famously. Never mind that Hillary lost the most winnable election in history against Donald Trump. No, everything was hunky dory. And there's a reason why that happened: because the person at the top didn't know what she was doing. Plus, I want to get to all the lessons we can learn from Bill O'Reilly's ouster from Fox News and the latest goings-on at Berkeley and Ann Coulter, and everything else. Plus, a little bit later in the program, we'll be having on Bass Stickman, a man who became famous because he whacked somebody with a stick during a March 2017 rally for Donald Trump in which Antifa attacked and he defended Trump. . You won't want to miss it! Ben Shapiro is a writer, comedian, podcaster, and podcaster. His work can be found at his website, and his podcast is also on all of the social medias, if you search for "Ben Shapiro". If you haven't checked out his work, you'll know who you should be listening to it. Subscribe to Ben Shapiro's newest podcast, "The Ben Shapiro Show." And don't miss out on the latest episode of "The Weekly with Ben Shapiro." Subscribe and subscribe to his newest podcast "The Daily Beast" on Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your ad choices, wherever else you can get the latest news and reviews of the highest quality and the best listening experience in the world, including "the most authentic and the most authentic version of what's going on around the internet. You're not going to get the freshest and most authentic thing going on that's going to be the best in the best of everything you're going to hear about it. That's right, it'll be Ben Shapiro, your host, right here on The Ben Shapiro on The Daily Beast and much more! . . . and there's the rest of it's not even better than that! ...and there's more than that, right there on The Weekly Standard, your chance to find it on the internet, too!

00:00:00.000 With the release of Jonathan Allen's and Amy Parnes' Shattered inside Hillary Clinton's doomed campaign, the patina of credibility surrounding Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign has finally imploded. 1.00

00:00:09.000 We know that her campaign was plagued by infighting, stupidity, and arrogance. 0.91

00:00:13.000 We know that all of this meant she couldn't unify Democrats during the primaries, and she couldn't unify Democrats even after the primaries. 0.98

00:00:19.000 We know that she didn't take the most rudimentary polling data in swing states for weeks before the election.

00:00:23.000 And we know she had no centralizing message to her campaign. 0.92

00:00:26.000 Yet today, Democrats who worked on Hillary's campaign were concerned with demonstrating that everybody on the campaign got along famously.

00:00:33.000 Famously, do you hear?

00:00:34.000 Never mind that Hillary lost the most winnable election in history against Donald Trump. 0.98

00:00:38.000 Donald Trump.

00:00:39.000 No, everything was hunky-dory.

00:00:41.000 So, like moths to the Twitter flame, Hillary staffers emerged to show the mutual love from the campaign trail.

00:00:49.000 Yep, look at all these happy people with Hillary.

00:00:51.000 They love each other, ah!

00:00:54.000 Look at this.

00:00:55.000 Oh, it's so nice.

00:00:56.000 Everybody's so happy while she's losing to Donald Trump.

00:00:59.000 Yeah.

00:01:00.000 See, people sometimes mounted each other.

00:01:02.000 Like they liked each other and everything.

00:01:04.000 They had an awesome time while losing to Donald Trump, you guys.

00:01:07.000 Because as we know, pictures always demonstrate that people love each other and are not engaged in dysfunctional relationships that end in disaster.

00:01:15.000 Right?

00:01:15.000 Like Stalin and all those people and O.J.

00:01:18.000 and Nicole and the Menendez brothers and Yoko Ono and the Beatles and

00:01:23.000 Bill and Hillary Clinton.

00:01:25.000 Well, oh well, so much for that.

00:01:28.000 I'm Ben Shapiro, this is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:01:35.000 They got nothing, gang.

00:01:36.000 I mean, really.

00:01:39.000 Hillary's campaign was a complete disaster. 1.00

00:01:41.000 It was a complete cluster f. And the reason that was is because the person at the top didn't know what she was doing. 0.79

00:01:47.000 But we'll get to all of that.

00:01:49.000 Plus, I want to get to Bill O'Reilly being ousted from Fox News.

00:01:52.000 What does that mean?

00:01:52.000 There are a bunch of lessons to be learned from that particular one.

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00:01:59.000 That's Kyle Chapman who became famous because he whacked somebody with a stick during a March 2017 rally for Donald Trump in which Antifa attacked and he defended.

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00:03:34.000 Okay, so.

00:03:36.000 Big story of the day remains the ouster of Bill O'Reilly at Fox News.

00:03:40.000 So the biggest host in the history of Fox News is now out on his rear, and that is an amazing thing.

00:03:47.000 I mean, it's obviously a sort of earth-shattering move when it comes to the media.

00:03:54.000 And there's a reason why this happened, and that is that all of these women were coming forward and telling stories about how Bill O'Reilly was hitting on them. 0.98

00:04:01.000 They were all coming forward and saying that Bill O'Reilly had tried to solicit them for sex, and then when they had not given in, then he had refused to help them with their careers, that basically he held out the carrot of, I'll help you with your career if you have sex with me, and then he had backed off of that the minute that they wouldn't.

00:04:16.000 Or he had called them up on the phone and said dirty things to them.

00:04:19.000 All of this is bad stuff, and he had settled out apparently many, many times, and Fox News had settled out many, many times.

00:04:25.000 They did an internal review of all of O'Reilly's supposed escapades, and they had Paul Weiss, which is a major law firm, do the internal review, and apparently there was a split in the Murdoch family.

00:04:35.000 Rupert wanted to keep Bill O'Reilly, and the Sons wanted to get rid of Bill O'Reilly because they thought that he was a liability.

00:04:40.000 Now, a lot of advertisers had dropped out, and this, I think, is the first thing to say.

00:04:45.000 The first thing to say is that there is a real tendency on the right to run from people because they've lost their advertisers.

00:04:54.000 And the left knows this, and that's why Media Matters has been used for years as the tip of the spear in fighting the right-wing media.

00:05:01.000 When we were at Truth Revolt, we tried to apply the same tactics to MSNBC, and we were actually successful.

00:05:04.000 We wanted to establish a mutually assured destruction.

00:05:07.000 Here is my view.

00:05:08.000 Advertisers should generally not be boycotted based on the shows upon which they advertise.

00:05:15.000 I think secondary boycotts are generally not a good thing.

00:05:19.000 I think they create a less free culture in America.

00:05:22.000 It's not a legal thing, but it is a culture thing.

00:05:24.000 If the idea is you don't like Bill O'Reilly and so you're going to boycott his advertisers, then you are effectively cracking down on a certain amount of free speech.

00:05:34.000 Not that you can't do it legally.

00:05:36.000 Not that it's not, in some cases, moral to do it.

00:05:38.000 But as a general rule, this kind of ease with which we do this now, where we call up advertisers and say that we're going to boycott your company unless you pull advertising from a particular show.

00:05:46.000 This is how the left really slammed Rush Limbaugh after the Sandra Fluck incident.

00:05:51.000 This is how the left has gone after people like Michael Savage.

00:05:54.000 The left has also gone after, obviously, now Bill O'Reilly.

00:05:56.000 So Media Matters basically astroturfed 500 or 1,000 people to call up the advertisers on Fox News and say, we don't want to see your

00:06:04.000 We don't want to see your commercial on Bill O'Reilly, or we're going to pull all the money.

00:06:07.000 They've done this to Glenn Beck as well.

00:06:09.000 Basically, if you're anybody on the right and you've reached a certain level of notoriety, the left will at some point attempt to go after your advertisers, which is really nasty stuff, and advertisers should know going forward that this stuff happens, that there is astroturfed attempts to destroy particular hosts because the left wants to destroy the host, not because the advertisers are really in any danger.

00:06:30.000 Usually if 500 people sort of in in the advertising industry They don't want controversy and they are not interested in having 500 people call their headquarters And so the easiest thing to do is just pull your ad and put it someplace else where you can get an equal number of eyeballs

00:06:42.000 But it would be great to see advertisers actually do a little bit of deeper digging and see whether it's Media Matters creating a list serve that they send out to 100,000 people and then 500 of them call, or whether it's actually 500 potential clients of the advertiser who have decided they're really, really angry, whether there's really widespread outrage over all of this.

00:07:01.000 So that's point number one, is that just because boycotting on O'Reilly worked doesn't mean that boycotting in general is a good tactic or a worthwhile tactic or a useful tactic, particularly with mainstream commentators of either side.

00:07:13.000 I think that's sort of a problem.

00:07:15.000 The second point here is the O'Reilly-specific points.

00:07:18.000 That one's not specific to O'Reilly, because this happens, as I say, to a lot of conservative hosts from time to time in their career, which is why, for example, you will see

00:07:27.000 And the right doesn't engage in this.

00:07:28.000 The right will not boycott advertisers because they advertise on Chris Hayes or Rachel Maddow.

00:07:34.000 The left will boycott advertisers, or at least say they're going to boycott advertisers, based on them advertising on Sean Hannity's show, for example.

00:07:43.000 And that's why when you watch Fox News, a lot of the advertisers are gold companies or walk-in shower companies.

00:07:49.000 And when you watch MSNBC, it's all institutional advertisers, meaning car companies, beer companies, because

00:07:56.000 Even though MSNBC has way lower ratings than Fox News.

00:07:59.000 And the reason for that is obvious, and that's because these advertisers are wary of being slammed with bad publicity.

00:08:05.000 Now, boycotts work on both sides, and in some cases I think boycotts are justified.

00:08:09.000 Like, I think that you're perfectly within your rights to say, I don't feel like going to Target if I'm afraid that I'm gonna bring my child into a bathroom and then a man's gonna walk into the bathroom in the girl's bathroom. 0.62

00:08:17.000 I think that's perfectly legit.

00:08:18.000 It's a perfectly responsible action.

00:08:20.000 I don't think it's legit when you say, I don't like the point of view on this particular show, therefore I'm boycotting the advertiser on this particular show.

00:08:27.000 That's directed at the exercise of free speech.

00:08:29.000 Again, legal, I don't think it's particularly moral.

00:08:32.000 I'm not a big fan of it.

00:08:33.000 So, that's point number one.

00:08:34.000 Point number two is the O'Reilly specific point.

00:08:37.000 And this is a real problem for the right.

00:08:40.000 There are a bunch of women who have now come out and made allegations about Bill O'Reilly. 0.97

00:08:43.000 Margaret Hoover was one of the women who used to be on Fox News a fair bit, and yesterday she was talking about never being alone in a room with Bill O'Reilly.

00:08:51.000 Bill O'Reilly never hit on me.

00:08:52.000 Bill O'Reilly never sexually harassed me.

00:08:54.000 I will say, though, as a young woman, many of us have experiences that are uncomfortable.

00:08:59.000 And I had some experiences that were uncomfortable enough for me to know, never to put myself in a position where I was alone with Bill or alone with people that made me feel uncomfortable.

00:09:09.000 And so when I first read Gretchen's complaint, and when Gretchen Carlson's complaint, who was really the hero and the unsung hero of all of this story, because she is the one woman who stood up in the face of a culture that was condoning bad behavior for years and years and years and years,

00:09:24.000 It was eminently believable because there was just a feel of interacting at times that was deeply uncomfortable and it was easy for me to extrapolate that if I hadn't been doing things to protect myself that I might have ended up in a position where I could have been vulnerable.

00:09:38.000 Okay, so there's a point she makes here that I think is kind of amusing in one sense.

00:09:42.000 She says that she makes a point never to be alone in a room with a man. 0.99

00:09:46.000 And the entire left goes, yeah, that makes perfect sense because men are pigs. 0.99

00:09:49.000 Mike Pence says he makes a point never to be alone in a room with a woman, and the entire left goes insane, right? 1.00

00:09:54.000 And his assumption is that men are pigs. 0.99

00:09:56.000 So Mike Pence makes the exact same assumption as Margaret Hoover, and Margaret Hoover is right and Mike Pence is wrong. 0.97

00:10:00.000 But the broader point that she's making is that there was a culture at Fox News that tolerated this sort of stuff.

00:10:04.000 Kirsten Power says the same thing.

00:10:06.000 Here's what she said.

00:10:07.000 I was on air, actually, with Margaret Hoover, who's at CNN now, on a regular segment.

00:10:11.000 We were on every Monday.

00:10:13.000 And he got Margaret's name wrong, and Margaret said, hey, get my name right.

00:10:16.000 And he said, oh, I'm sorry, there's a lot of blondes in this operation. 1.00

00:10:19.000 I can't keep you all straight.

00:10:20.000 Megyn Kelly's coming up, starts throwing all these blonde names. 1.00

00:10:23.000 And then at the end of the segment says, thank you for your blondness to both of us.

00:10:28.000 So I went to his executive producer, and I said, he needs to apologize, and he needs to never do that again, or I'm not doing his show anymore.

00:10:36.000 I think so.

00:10:55.000 What can we do?

00:10:55.000 It's Bill.

00:10:56.000 There's nothing we can do.

00:10:58.000 You know, we're sorry this happened to you, but there's nothing we can do.

00:11:01.000 I complained to Roger Ailes.

00:11:02.000 I was told the same exact thing.

00:11:04.000 There's nothing we can do.

00:11:05.000 It's Bill. 1.00

00:11:06.000 He's a jerk. 1.00

00:11:07.000 Nobody likes him. 1.00

00:11:08.000 And then Roger said, you know, Bill, he likes to put up dirty pictures and ask pretty girls to talk about them.

00:11:14.000 Okay, so the idea that O'Reilly would have to apologize for the fact that Fox News has lots of blondes on the air, and he made a comment about it, I think that's a bit of a stretch.

00:11:23.000 I mean, let's be real about this.

00:11:24.000 Fox News has lots of blondes on the air. 1.00

00:11:26.000 I mean, I think that there is definitely a blonde affirmative action program that exists at Fox News. 1.00

00:11:31.000 And, you know, making a comment about that is not even close to the bad stuff that Bill O'Reilly is accused of doing.

00:11:37.000 There's an entire list of bad things that Bill O'Reilly has been accused of doing.

00:11:40.000 This one does not even chart.

00:11:43.000 But here is the problem.

00:11:44.000 There was indeed a culture at Fox News that basically was tolerant

00:11:49.000 We're good to go.

00:12:09.000 I always find it hard to believe that none of the allegations are true when you have like 10 allegations.

00:12:13.000 There's a bunch of allegations about this whole shtick.

00:12:20.000 There's people who... Andrew Macris, who's one of his producers, who I knew when she actually had me on O'Reilly's show a while ago, she won, I think, a $10 million settlement from O'Reilly.

00:12:30.000 That was the famous case where he was calling her up in the middle of the night, allegedly, and then he was suggesting that there was a...

00:12:38.000 That she's a loofah and all this kind of stuff. 1.00

00:12:41.000 That sort of stuff, too many allegations to simply dismiss all of them.

00:12:45.000 I'll give you a quick list.

00:12:46.000 Andrea Macross receives that $9 million settlement after O'Reilly allegedly made sexual references to her via phone.

00:12:51.000 Former guest Wendy Walsh accused O'Reilly of offering to help her at Fox but cutting her dead when she refused his sexual advances.

00:12:56.000 Former guest Juliette Huddy received $1.6 million settlement from Fox News after she allegedly made sexual phone calls to her and then tried to harm her career.

00:13:03.000 Former host Andrea Tanteros filed a lawsuit against O'Reilly and Roger Ailes who was ousted last year after similar allegations.

00:13:09.000 Lori Due, similarly sued both over similar allegations, received a settlement in excess of a million bucks.

00:13:14.000 Former host Rebecca Gomez-Diamond alleged sexual phone calls from O'Reilly.

00:13:17.000 And then there was a report this week from attorney Lisa Bloom that one of her clients was called hot chocolate by O'Reilly and that O'Reilly leered at her.

00:13:25.000 There's some people who write this kind of stuff off.

00:13:27.000 I don't, as somebody who works in an office and runs an office, I don't think it's appropriate for people to be acting in this manner.

00:13:33.000 I think just as a gentleman, forget about the office environment, just as a gentleman, it's not appropriate to be acting in this manner.

00:13:38.000 And there was a tolerance of this sort of behavior, obviously, up to and including Roger Ailes and by Roger Ailes also.

00:13:44.000 And that's a big problem.

00:13:46.000 Now, the reason that I point this out 0.99

00:13:47.000 Is not to suggest that all males are pigs and all males are sexual harassers and that there's a rape culture in the United States. 0.97

00:13:54.000 What it is to suggest is that powerful people are able to get away on both sides of the aisle with behavior that would have the rest of us in serious trouble. 0.97

00:14:01.000 And that's a problem.

00:14:02.000 And that's not just because powerful people are able to manipulate the system.

00:14:06.000 That's also because we as citizens look up to powerful people, people we see on TV a lot, people who are in politics, and we are willing to excuse their sins based on the fact that we like all the other things that they are saying and doing.

00:14:18.000 So Wendy Walsh, who was one of the people who sued O'Reilly or alleged bad activity by O'Reilly, she spoke out yesterday and she talked about O'Reilly and Trump.

00:14:28.000 And remember, Trump defended O'Reilly over all of these allegations originally.

00:14:32.000 Would you like to see the President of the United States address it?

00:14:35.000 Do you think it was appropriate for him to do it in the first place?

00:14:39.000 Yeah, I mean, does he have better things to do?

00:14:41.000 We got a problem with Korea right now and Syria. 1.00

00:14:43.000 I mean, come on.

00:14:44.000 But I do think these two are birds of a feather.

00:14:47.000 They're men of a certain generation who thought of women as, you know, ornaments in workplaces.

00:14:53.000 And I'm hoping, I have faith in the President's daughter, Ivanka, that she is going to do more for women than her father.

00:14:59.000 Okay, so the reason that I have a problem with Republicans going along with all this... The hypocrisy point.

00:15:06.000 Democrats always went along with this, right? 0.95

00:15:08.000 Democrats are fine with Bill Clinton sexually molesting the help. 0.81

00:15:10.000 They don't have any problem with that whatsoever.

00:15:12.000 When it's on the right side of the aisle, it's the end of the world.

00:15:14.000 But this is a tendency...

00:15:16.000 That now crosses the aisle.

00:15:17.000 I was always under the impression that people on my side of the aisle, people on the right, were not willing to stand for bad behavior just because you happen to agree with somebody.

00:15:25.000 It's one thing if the allegations are not credible, or it's one allegation that gets settled out of court for purposes of just getting it off the table.

00:15:31.000 But if it's multiple allegations, you do not look askance at the people who are alleging it if it's tons and tons of allegations.

00:15:38.000 Just because you like the guy.

00:15:39.000 It's one thing if the allegations are not credible, but again, if you have lots of credible allegations, lots of settlements out of court, the law firm at Fox News saying this is a problem, then you do have to look at yourself and determine whether the reason that you are supporting a character is because you think that they are in the right and truly innocent.

00:15:54.000 Or is the reason you're supporting the character because you agree with a lot of the things that they have to say?

00:15:58.000 And that is a problem because it means the hijacking of particular philosophies about character, about life, about the economy, about everything, simply because you like a lot of what the guy is saying.

00:16:08.000 We saw this with regard to polls about Trump, you know, that say that now more Republicans than Democrats think it's okay for a politician to cheat on his wife or have sex outside of marriage.

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00:19:08.000 Okay, so the reason that I lead with all this O'Reilly stuff and the tendency, the human tendency, of attempting to swallow the bad along with the good, that somebody does something bad and now we're just going to go along with them the whole way, is this involves a certain amount of corruption of the soul, and that means corruption of the political soul.

00:19:27.000 And the perfect example of this,

00:19:30.000 You know, aside from the sexual stuff with Trump and O'Reilly, there's a tendency, because people like Donald Trump, that they're going to swallow his agenda wholesale, even stuff that is clearly heretical to basic conservative principles.

00:19:43.000 So, today, perfect example, today,

00:19:46.000 Breitbart News runs a piece in which they basically say that there is a libertarian case for Trumpian redistributionism.

00:19:54.000 This is actually written in Breitbart News today.

00:19:56.000 It's called The Libertarian Case for Donald Trump's Buy American Order.

00:19:58.000 John Carney writes, he says,

00:20:08.000 No.

00:20:08.000 Protectionists are protectionists.

00:20:09.000 He says, but here's the part that's crazy.

00:20:11.000 He says, it is altogether possible that one may prefer lower living standards in favor of a more humane distribution of wealth, or a government procurement policy that recycles dollars taxed and borrowed back into the domestic economy.

00:20:22.000 I'll read that again because it's insane.

00:20:24.000 Okay?

00:20:24.000 It is altogether possible one may prefer lower living standards in favor of a more humane distribution of wealth.

00:20:30.000 Now I'm going to read that in the voice in which it belongs.

00:20:32.000 You ready?

00:20:32.000 It is altogether possible that one may prefer lower government living standards in favor of a more humane distribution of wealth.

00:20:40.000 It's Bernie Sanders.

00:20:41.000 It's on-the-mark Bernie Sanders.

00:20:43.000 Okay?

00:20:43.000 And they are now parroting this stuff.

00:20:44.000 People on the supposed right are parroting this stuff because they like Donald Trump.

00:20:49.000 That is not excusable.

00:20:50.000 And it's not just Breitbart News, which you would expect, because Breitbart News is Breitbart News and they love Trump.

00:20:54.000 Okay, that's fine.

00:20:55.000 It's also Tucker Carlson.

00:20:56.000 So Tucker Carlson has on Mark Cuban.

00:20:58.000 Mark Cuban is a billionaire.

00:21:00.000 And here is Tucker Carlson with Mark Cuban.

00:21:03.000 And Cuban

00:21:03.000 Shockingly, is taking the more capitalist position.

00:21:05.000 This is about H-1B visas.

00:21:07.000 This is the program that allows people with high-tech degrees to come into the United States and work for a job.

00:21:12.000 The reason that is good is because otherwise these companies are simply going to outsource the jobs, or they're going to move the company altogether.

00:21:18.000 They're going to lower their labor costs or raise their prices. 1.00

00:21:20.000 Okay, free flow of labor is a crucial ingredient to having lower prices and better products.

00:21:25.000 Here's Tucker Carlson with Mark Cuban.

00:21:27.000 Cuban is right, and Carlson's about to say something that is full-on Marxism. 0.85

00:21:31.000 It's pretty crazy.

00:21:33.000 Would you apply market forces to your marriage, to your family?

00:21:35.000 I mean, there are limits to how far... I'm serious.

00:21:39.000 Capitalism is not a religion.

00:21:41.000 It's an effective way of generating wealth, but to the extent it hurts Americans, shouldn't we respond?

00:21:49.000 I mean, we don't do something just because it's, like, consistent with capital.

00:21:52.000 I don't know.

00:21:52.000 You're the one who said, well, that's... Are you against capitalism?

00:21:54.000 I like capitalism.

00:21:55.000 But when it hurts Americans, I'm willing to make adjustments.

00:21:58.000 Wouldn't you be?

00:21:59.000 Okay, stop.

00:22:00.000 That's... Okay.

00:22:02.000 When he says, would you apply market forces to your family, to your marriage?

00:22:06.000 Market forces... What does that have to do with anything?

00:22:08.000 A marriage is a voluntary agreement I make with my wife.

00:22:10.000 Okay, that has nothing to do with market forces.

00:22:12.000 I don't want the government intervening.

00:22:13.000 Okay, we're talking about government interventionism now.

00:22:15.000 And here's the crazy part.

00:22:16.000 When he says capitalism is not a religion, it's an effective way of generating wealth, capitalism is not only good because it generates more wealth and better products and services.

00:22:24.000 Capitalism is good because it is virtuous.

00:22:27.000 Capitalism and the free market is virtuous.

00:22:29.000 You know why the free market is virtuous?

00:22:31.000 Because it says you own your own labor.

00:22:33.000 You own your own money.

00:22:34.000 You own the fruits of your own labor.

00:22:36.000 And no one can tell you how to spend those fruits.

00:22:38.000 No one can tell you with whom you can do trade.

00:22:40.000 No one can tell you that you are not able to do trade because there's some other guy somewhere else who's been hurt.

00:22:46.000 Because you're not doing trade with him.

00:22:47.000 He'd be better off if you traded with him.

00:22:48.000 If you were forced to trade with him, he'd be better off.

00:22:50.000 So we're going to force you to trade with that guy instead.

00:22:53.000 What Tucker Carlson says right there is anathema to conservatism.

00:22:57.000 When he says, I like capitalism, but when it hurts Americans, I'm willing to make adjustments.

00:23:01.000 That is Bernie Sanders' case.

00:23:02.000 It is almost word-for-word Bernie Sanders' case.

00:23:04.000 He says, I like capitalism, I like private property, but, but, whenever someone finishes with but, you know they're gonna go in a direction that has nothing to do with capitalism or conservatism, and again, that's being done because people want to be loyal to Trump, not because it's actually good policy or anything like that.

00:23:20.000 Well, we're going to have to go to break right now, but if you want to see the rest of the program, we're going to talk more about this.

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00:23:31.000 We're going to be talking about Ann Coulter at Berkeley.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - April 21, 2017

Ep. 288 - O'Reilly's Out -- What Does It Mean For The Right?

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