The Ben Shapiro Show - April 24, 2017


Ep. 289 - When The Left Says Science, They Mean ‘Shut Up’


Episode Stats

Length

20 minutes

Words per Minute

199.16667

Word Count

4,063

Sentence Count

280

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

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Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Democrats have now spent two generations explaining that the true threat to free speech resides on the religious right, those fascistic John Lithgow from Footloose types who just can't wait to smash their Bibles in the faces of those who only want to read their lesbian pornography magazines.
00:00:14.000 In reality, there is only one side of the American political debate fully committed to destroying the First Amendment, the left.
00:00:19.000 On Thursday, former head of the Democratic National Committee and former Vermont Governor Howard Dean tweeted this, quote, hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment.
00:00:28.000 Uh, no.
00:00:28.000 This is ignorance of the highest order.
00:00:30.000 Of course, hate speech is protected by the First Amendment.
00:00:33.000 There are only a few categories of speech that aren't protected by the First Amendment.
00:00:36.000 So-called fighting words, specific and deliberate calls to violence, child pornography, defamation.
00:00:41.000 But there is no category of hate speech here for a simple reason.
00:00:44.000 What you deem hate speech may be political speech you just don't like.
00:00:48.000 In Canada, for example, the law has forced commentators like Mark Stein into court for criticizing Islam.
00:00:52.000 This is a violation of freedom, and the First Amendment doesn't contemplate it.
00:00:56.000 Using hate speech as a rubric for political speech you don't like is tyranny of thought.
00:01:00.000 Dean's tweet came in response to a tweet from Stephen Greenhouse of the New York Times regarding Berkeley cancelling a speech from commentator Ann Coulter.
00:01:07.000 Free speech defenders don't forget.
00:01:09.000 Ann Coulter once said, My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building.
00:01:14.000 This may be dumb speech.
00:01:16.000 It may be a bad joke.
00:01:17.000 It may be offensive and nasty and terrible.
00:01:18.000 It is also protected, as anyone with a modicum of First Amendment understanding knows.
00:01:23.000 But the Democrats have long wanted to gut the First Amendment.
00:01:25.000 They want to prohibit political spending from their opponents.
00:01:27.000 They want to prohibit people from using biologically correct pronouns to describe transgender people.
00:01:32.000 They want to ban hate speech.
00:01:33.000 They hate the First Amendment because they see its protections as incompatible with the collective good.
00:01:38.000 The collective good protecting non-offensive speech only.
00:01:42.000 This is why we have a Constitution.
00:01:44.000 It's why we have a First Amendment.
00:01:45.000 And it's why Democrats certainly can't be trusted with protecting either of them.
00:01:48.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:01:49.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:01:54.000 Okay, so we have a lot to get to today.
00:01:56.000 You should subscribe right now over at Daily Wire, because if you subscribe right now at Daily Wire, then you can be part of the mailbag.
00:02:01.000 We will be doing live mailbag questions today on this special Friday edition of the Ben Shapiro Show.
00:02:05.000 I don't know if I get to call it a special Friday edition, given the fact that I took two days off this week.
00:02:09.000 But in any case, we will, and pretend that we're giving you some sort of favor.
00:02:12.000 But I want to talk at length today about a video that's going around on Facebook that has made all sorts of waves.
00:02:19.000 And this is this video of Neil deGrasse Tyson.
00:02:20.000 He calls it the most important video that he has ever done.
00:02:24.000 And this video is about 4 minutes and 30 seconds.
00:02:26.000 We're going to watch the whole thing, but we're going to break it up and we're going to talk about it.
00:02:31.000 The thing has 17 million views on Facebook as of now.
00:02:35.000 It's probably approaching 18 now.
00:02:37.000 It's all about science and the value of science.
00:02:41.000 And I want to explain why I think Neil deGrasse Tyson is doing it so damaging and what exactly the left is doing with language like this.
00:02:47.000 So here's Neil deGrasse Tyson talking about the most important video he has ever done.
00:02:55.000 How did America rise up from a backwoods country to be one of the greatest nations the world has ever known?
00:03:08.000 We pioneered industries.
00:03:13.000 And all this required the greatest innovations in science and technology in the world.
00:03:21.000 And so, science
00:03:23.000 is a fundamental part of the country that we are.
00:03:26.000 Pause it there for one second.
00:03:27.000 So, here's what is interesting about what he's saying here.
00:03:30.000 Number one, science does not define whether a nation is good or bad.
00:03:33.000 Nazi Germany was actually pretty scientifically literate until they started banning Jews for Jewish science.
00:03:38.000 They, I mean, they developed the V2 rocket, they developed all sorts of, they had several Nobel Prize winners, people who actually couldn't accept the Nobel Prize in science because the Germans didn't want them to.
00:03:49.000 Science does not mean morality, but it is important to note one of the reasons that the United States has always been so scientifically advanced is because the United States was always a limited government place that didn't seek to suck resources out of the pocket of private industry and redistribute it.
00:04:02.000 Redistributive nations have trouble with scientific patents.
00:04:05.000 The United States does not.
00:04:06.000 We've always been the world leader, or at least for the last century and a half, we've been the world leader in scientific patents.
00:04:11.000 And that's also because there's a spirit of freedom that exists in the United States that does not exist in big government places elsewhere.
00:04:16.000 DeGrasse Tyson won't talk about why it is that the United States is so scientifically advanced, he just sort of assumes it.
00:04:21.000 He sort of assumes we're really scientifically advanced, but then he doesn't discuss why that is, because he's a big government guy who thinks there should be more social redistributionism, ignoring the fact that it is the lack of social redistributionism, it is the fact that there's a huge amount of private industry in the United States that has helped push science forward.
00:04:38.000 He continues.
00:04:41.000 But in this, the 21st century, when it comes time to make decisions about science, it seems to me people have lost the ability to judge what is true and what is not.
00:04:54.000 What is reliable, what is not reliable.
00:04:56.000 What should you believe, what should you not believe.
00:04:59.000 And when you have people who don't know much about science, standing in denial of it, and rising to power,
00:05:10.000 That is a recipe for the complete dismantling of our informed democracy.
00:05:23.000 But it's theory.
00:05:24.000 Increasing number of parents showing skepticism about vaccinations.
00:05:28.000 Voters have approved a ban on GMOs.
00:05:31.000 Call climate change unproven science.
00:05:33.000 Pause it there for a second.
00:05:34.000 Okay, so here is the problem with some of what he is saying here.
00:05:37.000 So, I agree that there are a lot of people who don't know what is true and what is not.
00:05:40.000 I've spoken about this in a political sense.
00:05:42.000 I speak about this with regard to facts all the time.
00:05:45.000 You notice that he never talks about science that the left doesn't like, right?
00:05:48.000 So he never talks about the science of abortion, right?
00:05:50.000 He never talks about the science of child development.
00:05:52.000 He never talks about the science regarding transgenderism and people who literally have the fantasy that people with chromosomes that say X and Y and are fully male can be female if we just give them hormone treatment and a few breast implants, right?
00:06:05.000 He never talks about that.
00:06:06.000 He always talks about climate change or evolution.
00:06:08.000 But here is part of the problem.
00:06:10.000 Neil deGrasse Tyson, just like a lot of people who's expert in his field,
00:06:14.000 And I know there are people who have questioned his expertise, but he knows more science than I do, so he's more expert than I am, so I'm not going to go into that, but I will say this.
00:06:22.000 Neil deGrasse Tyson is a guy who has posited that there ought to be a country called Rationalia, where people who agree with Neil deGrasse Tyson get to vote on rational bases alone.
00:06:30.000 What he's really calling for here is a scientific oligarchy.
00:06:33.000 He's not calling for a democracy.
00:06:34.000 He's not worried about an informed democracy.
00:06:36.000 He wants to be able to cram down his point of view on everybody else.
00:06:39.000 So, take for example what Pence is saying here.
00:06:42.000 Now, what Pence is saying here is that there should be, it's not forbidden for creationism to be taught in local schools.
00:06:47.000 We shouldn't be saying that evolution is the only way to think about things.
00:06:50.000 Godless evolution is the only way to think about things.
00:06:53.000 I may disagree with Mike Pence.
00:06:55.000 In fact, when it comes to the teaching of science and the teaching of creationism, I don't think they're incompatible, but I also am not sure that creationism should be taught in science class because I don't think it's a scientifically provable hypothesis.
00:07:05.000 That being said, it is not my job to say to the American people that you on a local level cannot vote for how to raise your children.
00:07:12.000 Neil deGrasse Tyson thinks that you should be able, he should be able, to tell you what your kids should learn and not learn.
00:07:19.000 He's not worried about an informed democracy.
00:07:21.000 Again, when Mike Pence says, let us demand that educators around America teach evolution, not as fact but as theory, what he's really saying is, let's stop using the federal government to cram down our version of what we think is true on local communities.
00:07:34.000 I may believe in evolution the same way that DeGrasse Tyson does.
00:07:38.000 But Pence is not wrong in the sense that it is a scientific theory, just as all theories are scientific theories.
00:07:43.000 This has a lot of evidence to back it.
00:07:45.000 It's a theory that is certainly not evidence-less, but the idea that schools should teach evolution exclusively in science and leave creationism for Bible class, I may agree with it.
00:07:56.000 In a consenting democracy, people get to vote for what they want, and they may be informed about Neil deGrasse Tyson's opinions on evolution, and they can still deny it.
00:08:04.000 Okay, even if they don't like what he's saying, they still have the right to deny it and they have the right to raise their children as they see fit on this score without reference to Neil deGrasse Tyson's opinions.
00:08:14.000 Again, consent.
00:08:15.000 He may not like it because he thinks that consent actually requires the children not learn, but it's that same consent that allows us to have a free country that allows for all the sorts of economic and scientific development that have occurred over time.
00:08:28.000 Then he continues.
00:08:30.000 That's not the country I remember growing up in.
00:08:34.000 Not that we didn't have challenges.
00:08:36.000 I'm old enough to remember the 60s and the 70s.
00:08:39.000 We had a hot war and a cold war, the Civil Rights Movement, and all this was going on.
00:08:46.000 But I don't remember any time where people were standing in denial of what science was.
00:08:54.000 Stop it there for a second.
00:08:55.000 So, number one, that is not true.
00:08:56.000 There have always been people who have stood in denial to what science is.
00:08:59.000 Again, transgenderism and abortion.
00:09:01.000 He never mentions them.
00:09:02.000 In the 1970s, Paul Ehrlich was considered, this professor from Stanford, was considered the breaking wave of science.
00:09:07.000 And anyone who said there was not going to be mass starvation across the planet thanks to scarcity of resources, those people were considered, quote, denialists, right?
00:09:14.000 They were denialists who didn't understand the catastrophe that was going to spring upon Earth's environment.
00:09:19.000 It didn't happen.
00:09:20.000 Not only did it not happen, resources got more plentiful, humans got smarter in how we were going to apply those resources, and now we have 7 billion people on the planet when 40 years ago we had half that.
00:09:30.000 So the idea that we are going to... that, you know, science today is stopped.
00:09:36.000 Like, science today is what it is, and in the 60s and 70s, you know, we were more respectful of science.
00:09:42.000 I don't think we were more respectful of science in the 60s and 70s.
00:09:44.000 I think that's nonsense.
00:09:45.000 I don't see any evidence to support that whatsoever.
00:09:47.000 I mean, there are people who are hippie flower children in the 60s and 70s.
00:09:50.000 There are still hippie flower children today.
00:09:52.000 There are people who deny scientific issues then.
00:09:54.000 There are people who deny scientific issues today.
00:09:57.000 That's just the way things are.
00:09:58.000 But what he's trying to paint is this picture of science is going like this, and then Trump gets elected, and boom!
00:10:03.000 Science hits the floor.
00:10:04.000 Science is going like this.
00:10:05.000 Obama was a scientific guy and then boom!
00:10:07.000 Science just takes a plummet off the cliff.
00:10:09.000 That is not accurate.
00:10:10.000 It's just not accurate.
00:10:12.000 And then he gets into his real point.
00:10:13.000 And his real point is to conflate his political views about global warming with scientific evidence about global warming.
00:10:19.000 And this is what the left wants to do here.
00:10:20.000 This is why they call people denialists if they don't agree with their political solutions.
00:10:24.000 So we're going to go through in a second what the science actually says about global warming.
00:10:28.000 According to the IPCC, which is the left source.
00:10:30.000 I mean, this is the source that they like the most.
00:10:31.000 It's also probably the most credible source when it comes to climate science.
00:10:35.000 In any case, here's what he has to say.
00:10:37.000 And you can see him conflating his ideology with scientific fact here.
00:10:41.000 The thing about science is that it is an entire exercise in finding what is true.
00:10:51.000 Hypothesis, you test it, I get a result.
00:10:55.000 A rival of mine double checks it, because they think I might be wrong.
00:10:59.000 They perform an even better experiment than I did and they find out, hey, this experiment matches.
00:11:06.000 Oh my gosh, we're onto something here.
00:11:10.000 And out of this rises a new emergent truth.
00:11:17.000 It does it better than anything else we have ever come up with as human beings.
00:11:24.000 Stop it here.
00:11:25.000 The amount of, the amount of ire in his voice, you know, people who are denying scientific truth, is there anyone out there who's denying the scientific basis for science?
00:11:35.000 Is there anybody who, like, who's the actual anti-science person?
00:11:38.000 They may disagree with the conclusion that you're drawing, but who's out there going, hypothesis being tested, bad?
00:11:44.000 That's just terrible.
00:11:45.000 But again, this is all designed to kind of raise your emotional needle, raise the emotional temperature, so then when he gets to his climate change point, you go, yeah, climate change!
00:11:53.000 That's the thing that's super important and we should listen to Neil deGrasse Tyson's solutions.
00:12:00.000 This is science.
00:12:01.000 It's not something to toy with.
00:12:07.000 It's not something to say, I choose not to believe equals MC squared.
00:12:10.000 You don't have that option.
00:12:13.000 When you have an established scientific emergent truth, it is true whether or not you believe in it.
00:12:19.000 And the sooner you understand that, the faster we can get on with the political conversations about how to solve the problems that face us.
00:12:28.000 Let's stop there for one second.
00:12:29.000 Okay, so, there's one line there that I do take issue with.
00:12:33.000 He says, this is science, it's not something to toy with, it's not something to say, I choose not to believe in EMC squared, E equals MC squared, you don't have that option.
00:12:41.000 Well, frankly, you do have that option.
00:12:42.000 It just makes you stupid.
00:12:44.000 Right?
00:12:44.000 And this is the case that he should be making.
00:12:45.000 He should be making the case, not that you don't have that option, because that sounds fascistic.
00:12:49.000 You do have that option.
00:12:50.000 He should be making the convincing case as to why the science he is citing is important and true.
00:12:55.000 And he should be putting that out there, as opposed to just railing against the wind about how there's all these people who don't like science.
00:13:00.000 And here is the thing.
00:13:00.000 Again, he says that, you know, that emergent truths are the most important thing.
00:13:05.000 This is science.
00:13:05.000 It's not something to toy with.
00:13:07.000 You don't get to have an opinion that conflicts with science.
00:13:09.000 Again,
00:13:09.000 Half of the left's scientific opinions are false on transgenderism, on abortion.
00:13:13.000 Those are the two most obvious cases.
00:13:15.000 But even with regard to global warming.
00:13:16.000 So, let's talk about what the established scientific consensus says.
00:13:20.000 So, it is true.
00:13:21.000 The established scientific consensus says that the Earth is warming.
00:13:24.000 The established scientific consensus also says that human activity has been a large contributor to global warming.
00:13:30.000 There's sort of deviation as to how much of global warming people attribute.
00:13:34.000 Some people say 10%, some people say 30, some people say 50, but there's no question that there is some amount of human activity that has had an impact on the warming trend on the globe thanks to the greenhouse gas effect.
00:13:45.000 The question is how large that effect is, and the question is what we are going to do about that.
00:13:50.000 Okay, now all of that that I have just said is not denying the reality of global warming or human activity involving global warming, but he's not going to like what I say next.
00:13:57.000 So Oren Kass, who's a columnist over at Foreign Policy Magazine, at the Manhattan Institute, he's written about this, and what he says is that the IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change from the UN, consistently project real but manageable costs over the next century.
00:14:11.000 He says, quote,
00:14:29.000 Which is 5 to 7 degrees Fahrenheit, by the year 2100.
00:14:32.000 Okay?
00:14:32.000 In a hundred years.
00:14:34.000 The associated rise in sea levels over the course of the 21st century, according to the IPCC, is 0.6 meters, which is about two feet.
00:14:41.000 Even stipulating that adaptations will displace hundreds of millions of people, that displacement will not happen all at once.
00:14:47.000 Spread over decades, such a disruption would look little different from the status quo.
00:14:51.000 And this is the point.
00:14:52.000 This is the part where
00:14:53.000 We're good to go.
00:15:13.000 Government regulations, international regulations that aren't going to be particularly effective that destroy vast swaths of the global economy right now.
00:15:21.000 Now, one of the things I presume that he would oppose is additional fracking, even though natural gas is significantly friendlier for greenhouse gas emissions, for carbon emissions, than, for example, coal.
00:15:29.000 Coal is really not great for carbon emissions.
00:15:32.000 Natural gas is much better.
00:15:33.000 But I assume that he wouldn't be in favor of natural gas.
00:15:35.000 He wants massive government subsidies for failed green energy projects.
00:15:38.000 He wants massive tariffs and taxes on carbon emissions.
00:15:42.000 Right?
00:15:42.000 All of these things may not even be necessary, and again, we have to discuss whether they would do anything, and that's where there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty.
00:15:50.000 So to pretend that science has now suggested a solution, or that science is very specific about the problem, is just not totally accurate.
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00:17:51.000 Here is finally what Neil deGrasse Tyson suggests about what his solutions would be on this global warming stuff.
00:18:01.000 So once you understand that humans are warming the planet, you can then have a political conversation about that.
00:18:11.000 You can say, well, are there carbon credits?
00:18:14.000 Do we do this?
00:18:15.000 Do we put a tariff?
00:18:17.000 Do we fund?
00:18:19.000 Do we subsidize?
00:18:20.000 Those have political answers.
00:18:23.000 And every minute, one is in denial.
00:18:25.000 You are delaying the political solution that should have been established years ago.
00:18:36.000 As a voter, as a citizen, scientific issues will come before you.
00:18:41.000 And isn't it worth it to say, all right, let me at least become scientifically literate so that I can think about these issues and act intelligently upon them?
00:18:53.000 Recognize what science is and allow it to be what it can and should be in the service of civilization.
00:19:02.000 And what I love about this is that you see all these beautiful pictures of the American cities at night.
00:19:08.000 You see the electricity throughout the American cities.
00:19:10.000 What he doesn't say is that his solutions on global warming would likely shut down some of those cities.
00:19:14.000 You see some of the electricity go out.
00:19:17.000 It's this idea that the left likes to put out there that they are just pro-science and you are just anti-science if you disagree with their solutions.
00:19:24.000 That's the problem.
00:19:25.000 I can agree with Neil deGrasse Tyson on evolution.
00:19:27.000 I can agree with Neil deGrasse Tyson
00:19:28.000 That the world is warming and that human activity has something to do with that.
00:19:32.000 I don't have to agree on the solutions that he proposes, but if I don't agree on the solutions that he proposes, I assume he'll call me a denialist because obviously if I knew science, then I would agree with him.
00:19:41.000 Okay, so I want to talk about President Trump and healthcare shape-up.
00:19:46.000 What exactly is happening there?
00:19:47.000 Does it look like that's going to be revived on taxes?
00:19:49.000 What's happening there as well?
00:19:52.000 Plus, Sarah Palin and Ted Nugent go to the White House.
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