The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 30 - Donald Trump Must Be Silenced Or Americans Will Die

00:00:00.000 Howdy howdy! 1.00

00:00:00.000 Here we are on a Tuesday and lots to talk about. 1.00

00:00:03.000 Apparently the Russians are now in basically a war with Turkey.

00:00:06.000 We'll talk about that.

00:00:07.000 We will also be talking about Bernie Sanders getting a big, huge, enormous endorsement.

00:00:12.000 Plus, of course, Donald Trump on the ropes again thanks to the media.

00:00:16.000 Or is he?

00:00:16.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:17.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:24.000 All right, folks, let's start with Donald Trump today.

00:00:26.000 Donald Trump made a comment that has gotten him in all sorts of hot water with the media.

00:00:30.000 And Trump does this routine.

00:00:33.000 I like to call it the Trump brand rake.

00:00:36.000 He sets up a rake on the ground for people, and then the media just steps on the rake.

00:00:40.000 And when they step on the rake, you know, the handle of the rake comes up and smacks them between the eyes.

00:00:43.000 That's basically what Trump does.

00:00:44.000 The way that Trump does this is he says something that is factually untrue, but the underlying narrative of which is true.

00:00:51.000 And the media, because they don't like Trump's narrative, they immediately say that not only is Trump's fact not true, his narrative is untrue.

00:00:59.000 And that's when they step on the rake, because the truth is that when Trump, his story, his generalized story, his general view of the world in many of these cases is true, but he uses the wrong facts, the media can't help themselves.

00:01:10.000 They're like Charlie Brown trying to go for the football.

00:01:12.000 They just keep on attempting to smack Trump over his narrative when the narrative is the only part of what Trump says that's true.

00:01:18.000 Everything else that Trump says is not true, but the narrative part of what Trump says actually is true.

00:01:22.000 So to take a brief example, the controversy of the day for Donald Trump is that Donald Trump said at one of his rallies that he watched thousands of Muslims, American Muslims, celebrate 9-11.

00:01:33.000 Here is the audio of Donald Trump doing it from a rally over the weekend.

00:01:38.000 I watched

00:01:40.000 When the World Trade Center came tumbling down.

00:01:44.000 And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down.

00:01:55.000 And the entire media said this isn't true.

00:01:57.000 There weren't thousands and thousands and thousands of people cheering as the buildings came down.

00:02:01.000 Well, first of all, first of all, that it isn't true.

00:02:05.000 There's no evidence that thousands of American Muslims were cheering in the streets.

00:02:09.000 There is evidence that thousands of Palestinians were cheering in the streets as the towers came down.

00:02:13.000 In fact, we have tape of that.

00:02:14.000 And it's always a nice reminder just to remember, these are the folks that

00:02:18.000 President Obama wants to sign $400 million a year, too.

00:02:20.000 If you remember all the way back to 9-11, this is what it looked like in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip on 9-11, thanks to our good friends, the Palestinians.

00:02:29.000 The v-sign for victory being displayed in East Jerusalem today among jubilant Palestinians that the United States had been subject to this attack.

00:02:40.000 What are we to make of that, Jennifer?

00:02:42.000 Yasser Arafat may issue this condemnation.

00:02:45.000 Look at this.

00:02:46.000 We're seeing people applauding, clapping, smiling, happy to know that thousands of Americans have died in this sneak attack.

00:02:55.000 And there you see a v-for-victory sign held up to the camera.

00:02:59.000 Well, look at that.

00:02:59.000 There were widows and there were children, there were orphans.

00:03:03.000 All the people President Obama says could never possibly be sympathizers with the bad folks, there they are celebrating.

00:03:08.000 And it's always a nice reminder to remind you that these are the people with whom we are warring.

00:03:13.000 And yes, all of those people are currently receiving money from your tax dollars, from the American federal government.

00:03:18.000 But what Trump was specifically referring to was Muslims in the United States.

00:03:23.000 And what was amazing is the media didn't just say that Trump got it wrong with the thousands.

00:03:27.000 They didn't say that some Muslims in the United States celebrated, but there weren't thousands.

00:03:32.000 What they said was no Muslims in the United States celebrated.

00:03:35.000 This is what Glenn Kessler said.

00:03:38.000 His original report, Glenn Kessler from the Washington Post, he said,

00:03:49.000 There's only one problem.

00:03:50.000 The Washington Post at the time reported this, quote, So Glenn Kessler works for the Washington Post.

00:03:54.000 He says there are no reports of any American Muslims doing any of this.

00:03:56.000 It turns out his own newspaper reported it.

00:04:17.000 It was also reported in the New York Times.

00:04:19.000 It was also reported in the San Francisco Chronicle.

00:04:22.000 In fact, there were some people who were actually detained by the authorities because they were suspicious that they might have terror ties because they were celebrating 9-11 in the United States.

00:04:30.000 So this is where the media stepped on the Trump rake, right?

00:04:32.000 He says something that is not factually true.

00:04:34.000 Thousands of people in the streets celebrating in Jersey City.

00:04:38.000 But they go so far as to say no people were celebrating.

00:04:41.000 None.

00:04:41.000 Zero.

00:04:42.000 Because American Muslims would never celebrate such a thing. 1.00

00:04:44.000 Because remember, there are two competing narratives.

00:04:46.000 There's Trump's narrative, which is that radical Islam over the entire span of the globe is a problem.

00:04:52.000 And yes, there are radical Muslims here in the United States.

00:04:55.000 And some of them were celebrating on 9-11.

00:04:57.000 Right?

00:04:57.000 That's Trump's narrative.

00:04:58.000 And then there's the media's narrative.

00:04:59.000 Radical Islam doesn't really exist.

00:05:01.000 It's a figment of everybody's imagination.

00:05:03.000 Who are you going to believe?

00:05:04.000 Me or your own lying eyes? 0.87

00:05:06.000 And there are no radical Muslims here in the United States, which means we need to import thousands and thousands of Syrian Muslim refugees without reference to what exactly they believe, right? 0.85

00:05:16.000 There's their narrative.

00:05:17.000 The problem is their narrative is false. 0.99

00:05:19.000 So when they go so far as to try to discredit Trump's entire narrative by discrediting one of the things that he says, instead they end up stepping on the rake and looking like fools, and it hits them right between the eyes. 0.98

00:05:29.000 And that's what we saw today with regard to the media. 0.99

00:05:32.000 And it really was quite ridiculous.

00:05:33.000 By the way, I do think that it is worth noting, when we talk about people who celebrated 9-11, it is incredible. 0.58

00:05:39.000 We have the left media saying, nobody celebrated 9-11.

00:05:42.000 American Muslims didn't celebrate 9-11.

00:05:43.000 No one celebrates 9-11, right?

00:05:44.000 Well, I can name a few people.

00:05:47.000 Who celebrated 9-11?

00:05:48.000 I can.

00:05:50.000 Ta-Nehisi Coates, who is the black, now he's a black spokesperson, he's considered this great black thinker, and he's been celebrated by the Atlantic and by the White House and by various other people who consider themselves real thinkers, real lefty thinkers, Ta-Nehisi Coates, he said that on 9-11 he sat on top of an apartment building and got high and watched as the towers fell and he felt nothing.

00:06:13.000 I mean, he wasn't celebrating, but he felt nothing.

00:06:15.000 I can think of somebody else who actually celebrated when the towers fell.

00:06:18.000 Barack Obama's pastor.

00:06:19.000 I mean, Jeremiah Wright, as we all remember, said this right after 9-11.

00:06:28.000 What Malcolm X said when he got silenced by Elijah Muhammad was in fact true. 1.00

00:06:32.000 America's chickens are coming home to roost.

00:06:42.000 We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, the Arawak, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. 1.00

00:06:54.000 Terrorism!

00:06:55.000 We took Africans from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. 1.00

00:07:03.000 Terrorism! 0.95

00:07:04.000 We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military 0.99

00:07:09.000 We remember all this.

00:07:10.000 We can stop it.

00:07:11.000 And we remember Jeremiah Wright doing this whole routine.

00:07:13.000 And Barack Obama, of course, never heard any of this.

00:07:15.000 He was there for 20 years.

00:07:16.000 Never heard one word of this.

00:07:18.000 It was amazing.

00:07:18.000 All the days that Barack Obama was there, Jeremiah Wright was just doing, well, Lindsay is just informing our devotionals.

00:07:25.000 But on the days that Barack Obama wasn't there, it sounded exactly like this.

00:07:29.000 So the question for the American people, and this is why Trump is becoming more popular, the question for the American people is not,

00:07:35.000 Was Donald Trump right about thousands of American Muslims celebrating? 0.96

00:07:38.000 It's, who do you trust to keep you safe?

00:07:40.000 The same people who said that Jeremiah Wright saying this kind of stuff didn't matter, and say that there's no such thing as a radical Muslim, or the guy who says, I'm deeply worried about radical Islam, and I believe that there are radical Muslims inside the United States.

00:07:53.000 Which person is going to do a better job of keeping you safe?

00:07:56.000 And we now have it on record because the fact is that Barack Obama, the guy who went to this guy's church, his State Department, after years of the President telling us that we'd won the War on Terror, we weren't even going to call it the War on Terror anymore, it was an overseas contingency operation, we weren't going to use the word terror, we weren't going to use the word Islam, yesterday the State Department issued a worldwide travel advisory to any American citizen.

00:08:17.000 So if we go anywhere outside the United States now, we are targets because we're American citizens.

00:08:23.000 Right?

00:08:23.000 We're the targets now.

00:08:24.000 And we're targets because of radical Muslims. 1.00

00:08:26.000 But don't worry, if you're really upset about not being able to travel outside the United States to meet radical Muslims, President Obama

00:08:33.000 has suggested that he will bring tens of thousands of them to the United States so you can meet them here.

00:08:38.000 So it's really great. 0.98

00:08:39.000 If you don't want to go to France and get killed, then you can stay here and get killed. 0.99

00:08:41.000 I mean, it's really a wonderful thing. 0.93

00:08:43.000 And then people wonder why Donald Trump is gaining in terms of the polls.

00:08:47.000 And he is polling not only high and continuing to lead in most of the swing states, although Ted Cruz is now in the margin of error in Iowa, Donald Trump, he does well against Hillary Clinton.

00:08:57.000 And there's a reason for that.

00:08:58.000 And so what this means that there has to be another level of stopping Donald Trump.

00:09:02.000 What can the left do beyond trying to—beyond their patented rake step?

00:09:07.000 I mean, this is such a bad stepping on rake routine.

00:09:10.000 It really is.

00:09:10.000 I mean, it's almost as bad as Hillary Clinton saying yesterday, tweeting out yesterday that she thinks that all victims of sexual assault ought to be heard and believed and supported.

00:09:20.000 And her name is Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:09:22.000 Again, her last name is Clinton.

00:09:23.000 We're good to go.

00:09:35.000 The worst rake step of the day was the media, which climbed up onto a high board and then proceeded to jump off the high board, like at the pool, and land both feet on this rake, and it just hits them right between the eyes.

00:09:46.000 So what do they do now?

00:09:47.000 What do they do now to stop Trump?

00:09:48.000 Because they've already tried to say that he's making things up, that his narrative isn't true.

00:09:52.000 So what do they do next?

00:09:53.000 Well, the next step is to suggest that Donald Trump is actually dangerous.

00:09:57.000 That Donald Trump is a dangerous fellow.

00:09:59.000 Right? 0.93

00:10:00.000 Donald Trump is the kind of guy where if he were to get into office, random people would be killed.

00:10:04.000 And remember, this has been the narrative for a couple of weeks now, ever since Paris.

00:10:07.000 The narrative has been that the real danger to Western civilization is not radical Islam. 0.99

00:10:12.000 The real danger to Western civilization is Westerners going crazy and randomly killing Muslims because at heart, we're all evil Islamophobes. 0.99

00:10:19.000 Right, that's been the narrative for a long time here. 0.99

00:10:21.000 Now they're just extending it to Donald Trump.

00:10:23.000 And the idea here is that in a country where we actually believe, or some of us do, in principles of freedom of speech, in a country where we think that you should be able to say what you think on politics, there's only one sort of speech that has traditionally been held not to be within the realm of freedom of speech.

00:10:40.000 And this would be the, quote-unquote, shouting fire in a crowded theater exception, right?

00:10:44.000 The shouting fire in a crowded theater exception comes from a case from, like, 1919, and it was adjudicated by Oliver Wendell Holmes.

00:10:51.000 It's been dramatically narrowed.

00:10:53.000 But the idea was that you weren't supposed to be able to—it's not free speech if you go somewhere and you create a public panic based on false information.

00:11:00.000 So what the left is trying to do now is they're trying to say that that's what Trump is doing.

00:11:03.000 Trump, with all of his verbiage, he is threatening the safety of the American citizen, particularly the American Muslim.

00:11:09.000 Van Jones, who actually is a communist, Van Jones is on CNN, and Van Jones was the former Obama green czar. 0.83

00:11:16.000 By the way, the same guy who once told me in the green room at CNN that black folks think of cops the same way that Jews think of Nazis. 0.93

00:11:28.000 Van Jones, that's not incendiary, but he says that Donald Trump must be shut up because if he's not shut up, then he's going to get American Muslims hurt. 0.88

00:11:36.000 Here's Van Jones from CNN last night.

00:11:38.000 Celebrating the Twin Towers fall.

00:11:41.000 Numbers of people is what the Washington Post said.

00:11:45.000 This is so terrible.

00:11:46.000 This is just terrible.

00:11:47.000 Go ahead, Van.

00:11:48.000 I just want to say, this is just terrible.

00:11:51.000 You have a presidential candidate

00:11:54.000 Who is deliberately stoking fear and smearing a whole population of people. 0.99

00:11:59.000 You have nuts, Jeffrey. 0.96

00:12:00.000 We're not talking about Hillary Clinton here, Van. 0.97

00:12:01.000 Jeffrey, hang on.

00:12:02.000 Jeffrey, hang on.

00:12:03.000 Hold on a second.

00:12:04.000 You have a political candidate, your candidate, you come on night after night and defend no matter what despicable, horrible, un-American, racist, inflammatory thing he says, you defend him.

00:12:14.000 At some point,

00:12:15.000 Do you have no shame?

00:12:17.000 He said that there were thousands of Arabs out there and there's not one picture in a world of where you got cell phone cameras, you got video cameras from coast to coast.

00:12:27.000 Not one picture, not one image.

00:12:29.000 This is demagoguery. 0.59

00:12:30.000 It is dangerous and somebody's gonna go hurt some Muslim as a result of this kind of hatred.

00:12:34.000 It's wrong. 0.94

00:12:35.000 Somebody's gonna go hurt some Muslim as a result of this kind of hatred, and it's totally wrong.

00:12:39.000 There's not one camera.

00:12:40.000 First of all, nobody had camera phones back in 2001.

00:12:42.000 If you remember, camera phones are a relatively recent invention.

00:12:45.000 I think I had a cell phone in 2000 and in 2001, but you really didn't have cameras on there.

00:12:50.000 If you did, it was really crappy quality.

00:12:51.000 If you had, if you had like a really updated flip phone in 2001, maybe you could take one picture, and the memory held like one picture.

00:12:57.000 But that's, it's just not true.

00:12:59.000 It's also not true that there's no, that people didn't discuss this at the time.

00:13:04.000 In fact,

00:13:05.000 CNN itself reported just a couple of years ago, Anderson Cooper, on this network, was saying that there were American Muslims who celebrated 9-11.

00:13:11.000 Here's Anderson Cooper saying just that in a special investigative report a couple of years ago.

00:13:15.000 These men are radicals, but they are also Americans, believe it or not, who praise Osama bin Laden and celebrate the 9-11 attacks.

00:13:22.000 So what's so extraordinary is that we found them out in broad daylight, out on the streets of New York, trying to spread their message just a few feet from a peaceful American mosque.

00:13:30.000 Drew Griffin of CNN's Special Investigations Unit has this.

00:13:33.000 I mean, so it's on CNN, but no, it never existed.

00:13:37.000 And the idea here is that Trump is such a crazy, he's a Hitlerian character, and now we're seeing this bubble up to the surface in lots of media reports, right? 0.96

00:13:45.000 Trump is Hitler. 0.98

00:13:47.000 When the left has gone beyond all else, they turn to the Hitler reference. 0.94

00:13:51.000 Right?

00:13:51.000 Trump is Hitler.

00:13:52.000 He wants Muslims to wear crescents. 1.00

00:13:54.000 He wants a database of American Muslims, which, again, was suggested openly by a member of the media to Trump.

00:13:59.000 It was not Trump who suggested that idea of registering all American Muslims, and Trump doesn't back that idea of registering all American Muslims.

00:14:06.000 There's no evidence that he does, but he has to be painted as a Hitlerian character, and he has to be painted as Hitlerian so that we can shut him up. 0.63

00:14:13.000 And it's not just Van Jones.

00:14:14.000 There's a Democratic congressman yesterday who said exactly the same thing.

00:14:17.000 Trump's rhetoric is going to lead to murder.

00:14:21.000 He's whipping up hatred to scapegoat a minority religious group, which has some very dangerous historic precedents, as you might agree.

00:14:34.000 I mean, it's the kind of behavior that is classic demagoguery.

00:14:39.000 And, you know, he's going to get somebody hurt.

00:14:42.000 I don't suppose he cares much, but it should be the kind of behavior that is roundly denounced.

00:14:50.000 And the thing that scares me is that the more he says outrageous, inflammatory things, it seems like it doesn't seem to cost him in terms of support, which makes me a little bit worried about the people who support him.

00:15:03.000 You just said he's going to get somebody hurt.

00:15:05.000 What do you mean by that?

00:15:07.000 What I mean is that when leaders who have a national platform whip up hate and hysteria against a particular group, particularly a religious group, a minority religious group, which is in, uh, that is not popular, uh, invariably, you know, the people who are mentally unstable or motivated by hate come out of the woodwork and you see

00:15:34.000 We're good to go.

00:15:53.000 Much of an anti-leader he really is.

00:15:56.000 Okay, so that leads to violence. 0.95

00:15:58.000 It doesn't lead to violence when the President of the United States routinely labels police officers racist who are killing black people for no reason.

00:16:04.000 And then there's a spate of shootings of members of the police. 0.98

00:16:07.000 It's not labeling a minority religious group or even a majority religious group in the United States when you say that they are a bunch of bigots because they won't bake same-sex wedding cakes and then shine the homosexual flag on the White House.

00:16:18.000 None of that is bigotry that incentivizes violence in any way, even though there have been cases, including Floyd Lee Corkins over at the Family Research Council, of people who are anti-Christian activists going in and trying to shoot Christian activists, family-oriented activists.

00:16:33.000 None of that matters.

00:16:33.000 So there's this double standard that applies.

00:16:36.000 When it comes to Trump.

00:16:37.000 That, by the way, is Keith Ellison.

00:16:38.000 Keith Ellison is a Democrat congressman from Minnesota who happens to be Muslim as well and has been connected with a couple of radical groups including CARE, the Council on American Islamic Relations. 0.99

00:16:51.000 So the idea here is that Trump is so bad, he's so evil, he's so terrible, that he just has to be shut up. 0.82

00:16:55.000 And there's long historical precedent for this among folks on the left. 0.97

00:16:59.000 This is an argument that we've heard, we remember hearing.

00:17:02.000 You remember hearing this with Jared Lee Loeffner?

00:17:04.000 You remember when Gabby Giffords, the congresswoman from Arizona, was shot?

00:17:08.000 And we heard that it was Sarah Palin's fault because Sarah Palin had a map of targeted districts

00:17:12.000 On her, on her website that showed which districts she wanted to oust the Congress people in and Gabby Giffords was on that.

00:17:18.000 There was no evidence that Jared Lee Loeffler even knew who Sarah Palin was, but it was Sarah Palin's fault.

00:17:22.000 The left did the same thing when they were talking about JFK's assassination.

00:17:26.000 They tried, LBJ said it was the climate of hate created by right-wing groups that led to JFK's assassination because as, as 0.97

00:17:35.000 JFK's wife, as Jackie said, she was just very upset that it had to be some silly little communist. 0.98

00:17:39.000 Those were her words. 0.98

00:17:40.000 She said she was very upset it was a silly little communist who killed JFK, and he couldn't die for some grand, glorious goal like civil rights. 0.99

00:17:45.000 Instead, he died for some nonsensical, silly thing like capitalism and defense against the Soviet Union. 0.98

00:17:51.000 Right?

00:17:51.000 So the idea was that the right wing had always created this.

00:17:54.000 We have to shut down the right wing.

00:17:55.000 You'll notice that there's always... It's so funny.

00:17:57.000 I remember... I'm old enough to remember the Bush administration, where I kept hearing from folks on the left that Bush wanted to shut down his opposition.

00:18:03.000 Remember this?

00:18:04.000 Bush wants to— dissent is the highest form of patriotism, and Bush is a fascist, and Bush just wants to shut us up, and that's the only thing that's important to Bush.

00:18:12.000 I don't remember any of these people being shut up.

00:18:13.000 I don't remember any of them being shut up.

00:18:16.000 But I'm seeing on a pretty frequent basis the President of the United States trying to shut people up.

00:18:21.000 If you're a YouTube filmmaker, you go to jail and they blame you for Benghazi.

00:18:26.000 If you're Dinesh D'Souza and you write anti-Obama books and do anti-Obama documentaries, somehow you'll find your way into a federal court on a charge that nobody gets charged with in the United States.

00:18:37.000 If you're somebody who wants to bake cakes for the people you see fit, and you're Christian, you don't wanna bake for a homosexual wedding, then you might find yourself in front of an administrative law judge. 0.98

00:18:48.000 The fact is that there's only one side of this debate that truly wants to shut down the political debate, and you're seeing that on campuses too.

00:18:53.000 That's why I was at University of Missouri last week, because now you're seeing, as we talked about yesterday, 40%, 40% of young people, 18 to 34, say that they would curb the First Amendment so as not to be offensive to ethnic minority groups.

00:19:06.000 Okay, what that means is Donald Trump, shut up, because we find what you're saying offensive.

00:19:10.000 That gives all the power to the offended in our society. 0.93

00:19:13.000 And that's, of course, what the left wants.

00:19:15.000 Now, none of this is to say that Trump is some sort of angel when it comes to his rhetoric, because he isn't.

00:19:21.000 Trump says certain things that just make you cringe.

00:19:24.000 So, for example, there is a situation, this is typical media coverage, there's a situation at this, I think it was at this particular rally, where a Black Lives Matter protester showed up and started trying to disrupt and yelling and screaming.

00:19:35.000 The Black Lives Matter protester, there's only, the only thing the tape shows is him on the floor and then the police picking him up and rushing him out.

00:19:42.000 The Black Lives Matter protester claimed that he'd been assaulted by six men

00:19:46.000 Six white men who were calling him the N-word and shouting at him.

00:19:49.000 There's no evidence of this whatsoever.

00:19:51.000 He didn't file a police report against the guys, so we still haven't had any arrests in that particular case.

00:19:56.000 And Trump was on TV, and he was asked about this, and here's what Donald Trump had to say about this particular Black Lives Matter protester.

00:20:03.000 Man that was, I don't know, you say roughed up. 0.90

00:20:06.000 He was so obnoxious and so loud.

00:20:08.000 He was screaming.

00:20:09.000 I had 10,000 people in the room yesterday.

00:20:12.000 10,000 people.

00:20:13.000 And this guy started screaming by himself.

00:20:15.000 And they did, I don't know, rough up?

00:20:17.000 He should have been, maybe he should have been roughed up.

00:20:20.000 Because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing.

00:20:23.000 This was not handled the way Bernie Sandals handled his problem, I will tell you.

00:20:27.000 But I have a lot of fans and they were not happy about it.

00:20:30.000 And this was a very obnoxious guy who was a troublemaker who was looking to make trouble.

00:20:36.000 So Trump's comment there, they actually don't ask him about it, which is kind of egregious.

00:20:39.000 They should obviously ask him about he should have been roughed up.

00:20:42.000 I mean, that's why you have security at these events.

00:20:44.000 I mean, you're the leading presidential candidate on the right side of the aisle.

00:20:46.000 Presumably you have security.

00:20:48.000 But here's where the hypocrisy comes in, right?

00:20:51.000 So Donald Trump says that maybe he should have been roughed up because he was making trouble.

00:20:56.000 So, naturally, a friend of this protester comes out and says, Donald Trump, he's not just a guy who gets overexcited. 0.93

00:21:03.000 He's not just a guy who uses ridiculous language. 0.91

00:21:05.000 He's a modern-day Bull Connor. 0.96

00:21:07.000 This is what he says.

00:21:08.000 He says he's a modern-day Bull Connor.

00:21:09.000 And for those who don't know, Bull Connor was the sheriff down in Birmingham, Alabama, when they were turning hoses and sicking dogs on black people, using the force of the law to do so.

00:21:20.000 Here is this friend of the protester who was taken out of the Trump rally.

00:21:25.000 If you ask me, I'd say it like this.

00:21:27.000 I believe that Donald Trump is really the modern-day Bull Connor.

00:21:32.000 He'd go around our country spewing hatred and racism and is not accepted here in the city of Birmingham.

00:21:38.000 We're on the verge of raising our minimum wage to $10.10 an hour, so Trump doesn't support raising our minimum wage.

00:21:43.000 We welcome immigrants to our city, and Trump does not.

00:21:46.000 So what do any of those things have to do with Bull Connor?

00:21:49.000 They don't.

00:21:49.000 I mean, what does the 10-10 minimum wage have to do with Bull Connor?

00:21:52.000 What does immigration have to do with Bull Connor?

00:21:54.000 Nothing.

00:21:54.000 But that's the point, right?

00:21:56.000 It's all wrapped up in one ball.

00:21:57.000 If you want to criticize Trump for not allowing security time enough to get the guy,

00:22:03.000 Or for saying that, I mean, because honestly, it really isn't his responsibility what his followers do in the audience when they're irritated by somebody.

00:22:09.000 If you've ever been at a rally, this sort of thing is not actually particularly that uncommon.

00:22:13.000 It does happen on a fairly regular basis.

00:22:14.000 If you've ever been at a mass event, ranging from a concert where fights break out, to a baseball game where I've seen fights break out, to a political rally like this where fights break out.

00:22:23.000 You cannot like Trump's language, but that's the point.

00:22:26.000 For the left, it's not about Trump's language.

00:22:28.000 It's about Trump's actual policies.

00:22:29.000 They don't like Trump's policies, and therefore they don't like Trump's language. 0.72

00:22:32.000 And that's why the hypocrisy of the White House here is so egregious.

00:22:35.000 Josh Earnest, who's the White House spokesperson, he says, yeah, no, of course Trump condones violence. 0.95

00:22:40.000 That's just the kind of guy that Donald Trump is.

00:22:43.000 Well, this is not a departure from Mr. Trump's habits.

00:22:48.000 You know, he's previously

00:22:50.000 Uh, had reporters who were asking him tough questions removed from the room.

00:22:54.000 So the fact that he might condone violence against a protester is not particularly surprising to me.

00:23:01.000 It's certainly not an approach that I would agree with, but he's running his own campaign and that's what he should do.

00:23:06.000 No, it's not an approach that they would agree with.

00:23:08.000 President Obama is the guy who has actually banned campaign reporters from his jet.

00:23:13.000 If you remember, in 2012 he did that.

00:23:15.000 The President of the United States is the guy who said at a rally of his constituents that if you are in a political fight, you should bring a gun to a knife fight.

00:23:23.000 Right? 0.68

00:23:23.000 President Obama is the guy who said that he's going to put his boot on the throat of BP. 0.68

00:23:27.000 I mean, he's used this sort of language routinely.

00:23:29.000 I mean, this is the party that says Republicans are the enemy.

00:23:32.000 President Obama has said Republicans are the enemy.

00:23:34.000 But no, it's Donald Trump who's the real problem.

00:23:36.000 And that, of course, is the double standard.

00:23:39.000 Now, meanwhile, one more point on Trump.

00:23:43.000 You want to know why Trump is popular?

00:23:44.000 The reason Trump is popular is because he's saying a lot of things that people are thinking.

00:23:47.000 So Donald Trump was asked about waterboarding and Donald Trump was at a rally and he spoke about waterboarding and here's what he had to say.

00:23:53.000 This morning they asked me a question.

00:23:57.000 Would you approve waterboarding?

00:23:59.000 Would I approve waterboarding?

00:24:09.000 And I said, well, let me ask you a question.

00:24:11.000 On the other side, they chop off our young people's heads, and they put them on a stick.

00:24:20.000 On the other side, they build these iron cages, and they'll put 20 people in them, and they drop them in the ocean for 15 minutes and pull them up 15 minutes later.

00:24:30.000 Would I approve waterboarding? 0.99

00:24:32.000 You bet your ass I would. 0.99

00:24:42.000 And I would approve more than that. 0.99

00:24:45.000 And don't kid yourself, folks.

00:24:47.000 It works, okay?

00:24:49.000 It worked. 1.00

00:24:50.000 Only a stupid person would say it doesn't work. 1.00

00:24:53.000 It works. 1.00

00:24:54.000 They're all saying, oh, it has no effect.

00:24:58.000 I know people that are very, very important people, and they want to be politically correct.

00:25:04.000 And I see some people talking on television about, well, I don't know if it works.

00:25:08.000 And they tell me later on, it works.

00:25:11.000 It works.

00:25:11.000 Believe me, it works.

00:25:13.000 And you know what?

00:25:14.000 If it doesn't work, they deserve it anyway for what they're doing now.

00:25:19.000 But it works.

00:25:22.000 Okay, that's why Trump is popular, folks.

00:25:24.000 I mean, in a nutshell, that's why Trump is popular because, let's face it, who hasn't thought that?

00:25:28.000 When you're watching a Jordanian pilot burn alive, who hasn't thought, okay, the people who did this, if we waterboard them and we don't get any information, are you gonna lose sleep over that?

00:25:36.000 Is that something that you're deeply going to care about?

00:25:39.000 Trump is...

00:25:40.000 Right on this.

00:25:41.000 I mean, he is, as a general rule, he is right on the narrative and he is wrong on the facts, right?

00:25:47.000 That's just what Trump is.

00:25:48.000 And that's why Trump is so popular.

00:25:50.000 Now, meanwhile, I do have to mention what's going on over in the Middle East with regard to Syria.

00:25:55.000 So the Russians flew a plane over a one-mile area of Turkish territory and the Turks shot it down.

00:26:02.000 Now, the reason this is important is because Turkey is a member of NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

00:26:08.000 And the North Atlantic Treaty Organization was originally created in order to be a counterweight to the Soviet Union.

00:26:13.000 The idea was that any attack on a NATO member would count as an attack on all the NATO members, right?

00:26:19.000 So if Russia were to attack Latvia, then all of the various members of NATO would join up and they would go fight the Soviet Union, they'd go fight Russia.

00:26:27.000 If they attacked Poland, everybody would join together and they would go and they would attack the Soviet Union. 0.88

00:26:32.000 And Russia, it was obviously created as this. 0.80

00:26:35.000 One of the things that Russia has wanted to do for a long time is to break NATO.

00:26:39.000 They want to destroy the North Atlantic Treaty Organization because they feel if they are able to destroy NATO, then they can take these countries one at a time, right?

00:26:47.000 If they can attack Poland and not have to worry about what the United States is going to do or France, if they can just peel countries off one by one, then they can eat them up the same way they did before. 0.99

00:26:56.000 And this is what they've done with Ukraine, because Ukraine isn't a NATO member.

00:26:59.000 Well, the same thing that today,

00:27:01.000 Because of this attack on the Russian plane by the Turks, this smells like a setup to me. 0.96

00:27:08.000 It smells like Vladimir Putin is attempting to use this as a point of breach with NATO.

00:27:13.000 So the United States came out after this and they said, Turkey has a right to defend itself.

00:27:17.000 We're not gonna get involved.

00:27:18.000 Well, what happens when Vladimir Putin says, okay, well, I have the right to defend myself too.

00:27:23.000 It was my plane that got shot down.

00:27:24.000 I'm bombing positions in Turkey now. 0.99

00:27:27.000 I'm gonna bomb those border positions in Turkey. 0.94

00:27:29.000 Is anybody going to stand with Turkey? 0.93

00:27:30.000 Is Turkey going to go open war with Russia?

00:27:33.000 Or is it just going to set the precedent, which is really what Putin wants?

00:27:36.000 Is it going to set the precedent that NATO is no longer a functional treaty organization?

00:27:40.000 This is what happens when there is a lack of American leadership in the world.

00:27:44.000 You want to know what's going on in Syria and Turkey and the Middle East?

00:27:48.000 All you have to do is look at the various interests of the people who are involved.

00:27:51.000 If you look at the various interests, it all becomes clear.

00:27:53.000 Obama has made such a muddle of this.

00:27:55.000 That there is no way.

00:27:57.000 He keeps thinking somebody's going to come and fill the gap.

00:27:59.000 The only people filling the gap are the Russians who have their own interests here, and their interests do not align with our interests. 1.00

00:28:05.000 You want to know why ISIS has survived this far?

00:28:07.000 The answer is because none of the regional neighbors actually have a total interest in getting rid of ISIS.

00:28:11.000 None of them.

00:28:12.000 Right?

00:28:12.000 Because the fact is this.

00:28:13.000 Syria doesn't want to get rid of ISIS because ISIS is taking out the Free Syrian Army.

00:28:17.000 They want to keep ISIS there so that Bashar Assad looks good. 0.78

00:28:20.000 The Iranians want to keep ISIS out of Iraq but in Syria because, again, it allows Bashar Assad to look good and it allows Iran to look good because they're fighting the worst people on planet Earth over in ISIS. 0.90

00:28:31.000 Jordan and Egypt and Saudi Arabia, none of them like ISIS, but they're afraid because ISIS is making gains in all of their territories.

00:28:39.000 And they also know that if they were to fight ISIS, it looks like they're now fighting on behalf of Shia 0.99

00:28:44.000 Right?

00:28:44.000 They're Sunni.

00:28:45.000 The Iranians are Shia.

00:28:47.000 Bashar Assad is Alawite, which is basically a form of Shia Islam.

00:28:51.000 And so if they fight ISIS, which is Sunni, then they're now siding with the enemy. 0.77

00:28:56.000 So nobody has the wherewithal or the compunction to go after ISIS full bore.

00:29:02.000 Except for Putin, who's happy to go after ISIS full bore because he's doing the dirty work that the Iranians don't really want to do. 1.00

00:29:08.000 He'll say, okay, I'm going to get rid of ISIS, and then I'm also going to get rid of the Free Syrian Army, and I just cleared the path for Iran. 0.99

00:29:14.000 I just cleared the path for Iran. 0.99

00:29:16.000 And meanwhile, if I can, into the bargain, also break NATO, then I've won a big victory.

00:29:21.000 And President Obama is sitting by doing nothing as all of this happens, when the truth is that this is actually very much, it's actually very reminiscent of when Saddam Hussein went into Kuwait in 1991.

00:29:31.000 Saddam Hussein was Sunni, right, and his 0.99

00:29:36.000 Well, this is the same dilemma now.

00:30:03.000 We could theoretically go in and nail ISIS and then occupy ISIS areas, but President Obama doesn't want to do that.

00:30:09.000 And he also doesn't have—and the problem is that there is no area in which we are safe from ISIS.

00:30:15.000 So he could make a hard decision, which is we'll do whatever we have to do to destroy ISIS, and if that includes going in and occupying the area so that it doesn't become another Iranian pond, then we'll do it. 0.98

00:30:25.000 But President Obama won't do that because he's a coward.

00:30:28.000 And so what's destined to happen here is that ISIS will become a solid part of the Middle East. 0.91

00:30:33.000 It will become a consolidated state.

00:30:35.000 It's not going anywhere, folks.

00:30:36.000 Okay?

00:30:36.000 Anybody who tells you that ISIS is going to be completely destroyed is lying to you.

00:30:40.000 Because there are too many players in the region

00:30:42.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:30:42.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - November 24, 2015

Ep. 30 - Donald Trump Must Be Silenced Or Americans Will Die

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