The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 301 - Comey's Gone, And The Russians Are Coming! Or Are They?

Voter fraud is a serious problem that threatens election integrity, despite Democratic claims to the contrary. More specifically, the possibility of widespread voter fraud remains a problem even though evidence of actual fraudulent ballots being cast is relatively scanty. As the Daily Wire has reported, in 2012, the Pew Research Center found that there were almost 24 million active voter registrations in the United States, either invalid or inaccurate. Almost 2 million dead Americans were still on the active voting list in 2012. Almost 12 million voter records were riddled with incorrect addresses or other errors. And it does not take widespread fraud to shift an election; the passage of Obamacare, which relied on the replacement of Republican Senator Norm Coleman of Minnesota with Democrat Al Franken, rested on a 312 vote recount margin in favor of Franken. The same held true in 2004's Washington State gubernatorial election. Some 1,400 felons voted illegally in that election, and the Secretary of State certified election results in at least five counties where more votes were cast than there were voters. So it's about time we looked at voter fraud. And since Trump's rhetoric will once again smear a good cause, and allow the media to reopen an idiotic conversation with Trump about whether he believes he actually won the popular vote, and because Trump is pathologically incapable of avoiding a perceived slight, he'll take the bait. Get ready for two more weeks of talk about how Trump was actually jobbedbed in the 2016 election, even though we should be focusing on the real necessity of voter ID and cleansing voter rolls. Ben Shapiro: It's too bad that Donald Trump is the one who's actually doing it. because the leaks are everywhere! The Daily Wire's own Ben Shapiro explains why James Comey was fired, and why you should be worried about the FBI Director was actually fired, not the other way around and why it's a good thing you should have been able to save $5,000 in life insurance policies. And why you can save 40% on your life, not $40,000 a year. If you're alive and you don't have a life insurance policy, you need to have $5 billion in life, or you don t have debt, you can't have enough, but you need your family has $5Billion in life. You can save over 40% in life-insurance policies, and you need you're in town, you'll save over $5 BILLION, you're gonna save $4,000.

00:00:00.000 According to ABC News, President Trump will sign an executive order today to investigate voter fraud.

00:00:04.000 The executive order would create a commission staffed by Vice President Mike Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Chris Kobach to investigate election integrity.

00:00:11.000 ABC News reports, quote, the commission, which will include Republicans and Democrats, will be tasked with studying vulnerabilities in U.S.

00:00:18.000 voting systems and potential effects on improper voting, fraudulent voter registrations, and fraudulent voting, according to one official with knowledge of the announcement.

00:00:25.000 This is a fine notion.

00:00:26.000 Voter fraud is indeed a serious problem that threatens election integrity, despite Democratic claims to the contrary.

00:00:32.000 More specifically, the possibility of widespread voter fraud remains a problem, even though evidence of actual fraudulent ballots being cast is relatively scanty.

00:00:39.000 As the Daily Wire has reported, in 2012, the Pew Research Center found the following.

00:00:43.000 There were almost 24 million active voter registrations in the United States, either invalid or inaccurate.

00:00:48.000 Almost 2 million dead Americans were still on the active voting list.

00:00:51.000 12 million voter records were riddled with incorrect addresses or other errors.

00:00:55.000 Almost 2.75 million voters were registered in over one state.

00:00:59.000 And it does not take widespread voter fraud to shift an election.

00:01:02.000 The passage of Obamacare, which relied on the replacement of Republican Senator Norm Coleman of Minnesota with Al Franken, rested on a 312 vote recount margin in favor of Franken.

00:01:11.000 According to the Minnesota Majority, a conservative watchdog group, quote, at least 341 convicted felons voted in Minneapolis's Hennepin County, the state's largest.

00:01:19.000 Another 52 voted illegally in St.

00:01:21.000 Paul's Ramsey County, the state's second largest.

00:01:23.000 Dan McGrath, head of Minnesota Majority, says the only conclusive matches were included in the group's totals.

00:01:29.000 The number of felons voting in those two counties alone exceeds Mr. Franken's victory margin.

00:01:33.000 The same held true in 2004's Washington State gubernatorial election, with Democrat Christine Gregoire defeating Republican Dino Rossi by 129 votes.

00:01:42.000 Some 1,400 felons voted illegally in that election, at least 55,000 ballots were enhanced, and the Secretary of State certified election results in at least five counties where more votes were cast than there were voters, according to Bob Williams of the Evergreen Freedom Foundation.

00:01:55.000 A single vote cast illegally means someone else's vote has been canceled out.

00:01:59.000 So it's about time we looked at voter fraud.

00:02:00.000 With that said, the media will now attempt to quash any real investigation into voter fraud based on President Trump's wild overstatement of voter fraud during the 2016 election cycle.

00:02:09.000 Trump announced after his Electoral College victory in 2016 he'd actually won the popular vote too, except for 3 million votes cast illegally for Hillary.

00:02:16.000 He said, quote, you can never find, you know, there are going to be, no matter what numbers we come up with, there are going to be lots of people that did things we're not going to find out about.

00:02:24.000 That's what Trump said in January, but we'll find out because we need a better system where that can't happen. 0.92

00:02:29.000 That means that Trump's rhetoric will once again smear a good cause and allow the media to reopen an idiotic conversation with Trump about whether he believes he won the popular vote, and because Trump is pathologically incapable of avoiding a perceived slight, he'll take the bait.

00:02:41.000 Get ready for two more weeks of talk about how Trump was actually jobbed in the popular vote, even though we should be focusing on the real necessity of voter ID and cleansing voter rolls. 0.77

00:02:48.000 In order to draw Democrats

00:02:50.000 Trump is apparently including language about voter suppression, too, even though there's no proof of voter suppression across the country whatsoever.

00:02:55.000 That will get Democrats on board and allow them to propagandize about how voter ID actually prevents people from voting. 0.98

00:03:00.000 So, bottom line, it's good that Trump is looking at voter fraud.

00:03:03.000 It's too bad that Donald Trump is the one who's actually doing it.

00:03:06.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:03:06.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

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00:03:16.000 Everything has opened up, the skies have opened, the leaks are pouring down, and now we have many theories as to why FBI Director James Comey was actually fired, but most of the evidence seems to support, you guessed it, my theory from yesterday as to why it is that James Comey was fired.

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00:05:06.000 Obviously, the news of the day continues to be the fallout from the firing of FBI Director James Comey, and now we have leaks aplenty.

00:05:12.000 So there are really two big stories that came out, maybe three, that have come out full of leaks about Trump firing Comey.

00:05:20.000 And one thing is absolutely clear.

00:05:22.000 The original explanation for why the administration fired Comey just doesn't hold any water.

00:05:25.000 So the original explanation was, you know, this Deputy Attorney General Ron Rosenstein, he showed up 14 days ago, and then he decided, you know, Comey had to go.

00:05:32.000 So he wrote us a memo, unprompted, in which he said that

00:05:34.000 Comey had to go and we took his advice and we fired James Comey. 0.65

00:05:38.000 That's horse manure. 0.98

00:05:39.000 Everyone knew it was horse manure from the first day.

00:05:42.000 The problem with rolling out a bad story is now it makes people believe the worst.

00:05:44.000 When you say something that isn't true, it makes people immediately jump to the worst possible conclusion, as opposed to the more realistic but not so great conclusion, which is probably what actually happened.

00:05:53.000 So, it's pretty clear now that Ron Rosenstein...

00:05:56.000 Was not the guy behind the firing.

00:05:57.000 There have been multiple reports that Trump basically had decided to fire Comey last week.

00:06:02.000 And then he called Ron Rosenstein and Attorney General Jeff Sessions into his office and said, come up with some sort of letter that's a pretext for firing him.

00:06:09.000 And Rosenstein did what a good soldier is supposed to do.

00:06:11.000 He wrote this letter.

00:06:12.000 Apparently there was a report yesterday that the DOJ is now denying that Rosenstein actually threatened to resign yesterday because he was so ticked off that the Trump White House seemed to be blaming him for Comey's ouster.

00:06:22.000 Bottom line, this was handled about as badly as you can handle any issue like this.

00:06:25.000 I was listening to Dana Perino and Chris Stierwald's podcast, which is worth listening to.

00:06:29.000 We're good to go.

00:06:49.000 Was he fired?

00:06:49.000 So the story from the White House continues to be he was fired because he did a bad job.

00:06:54.000 So here is Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who's supposed to be good at this, right?

00:06:57.000 She's supposed to be better than Sean Spicer is.

00:06:58.000 There were rumors yesterday that Trump hates how Sean Spicer has handled this, so he's thinking about firing Spicer too.

00:07:03.000 Everybody is basically on the hook with Trump.

00:07:06.000 If you do something he doesn't like, he'll fire you.

00:07:07.000 All he demands is loyalty, which is one of the stories we'll talk about.

00:07:10.000 There's a story that James Comey was fired because he refused to guarantee Trump his personal loyalty.

00:07:14.000 In any case, here is Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

00:07:17.000 Making an insane case as to why James Comey was fired.

00:07:20.000 I think also having a letter like the one that he received and having that conversation that outlined the basic atrocities in circumventing the chain of command in the Department of Justice.

00:07:36.000 Any person of legal mind and authority

00:07:40.000 None of this makes any sense.

00:07:41.000 First of all, you don't use the word atrocities about legal errors, okay?

00:07:44.000 Atrocity is, like, for... Atrocity is for, like, the Holocaust or My Lai or Syria, gassing people. 0.91

00:07:48.000 Atrocity is not...

00:08:02.000 He went out in public and said something about Hillary Clinton and Loretta Lynch. 0.94

00:08:06.000 I'm sorry, that doesn't rise to the level of atrocity, that's just silly.

00:08:08.000 The case that she's making is Comey's bad at his job.

00:08:10.000 Yes, Comey was bad at his job.

00:08:12.000 Guess who's been saying that for a year?

00:08:13.000 Hmm?

00:08:15.000 That's right, it was me.

00:08:17.000 So, I've been saying for a year James Comey is absolutely crappy at his job, but the question isn't why he was fired, the question is why he was fired now.

00:08:22.000 And the answer clearly is not something that happened last July, so that story has no veracity whatsoever.

00:08:27.000 Jake Tapper presents another story, so now you've got a bunch of anonymous sources leaking.

00:08:31.000 And here's the thing to know about anonymous sources.

00:08:34.000 They're anonymous!

00:08:34.000 We don't know who they are, and we don't know what their agenda is, and we don't know whether they have any specialized knowledge as to why Comey was fired.

00:08:41.000 We don't know whether they're speaking from personal knowledge of what's actually going on in the investigation, or whether they're speaking based on speculation at the FBI.

00:08:48.000 You know, anonymous sources are useful, and you have to use them in journalism because

00:08:52.000 A lot of people are afraid of speaking with their name on the record because they're afraid that they're going to get fired for it.

00:08:56.000 So anonymous sources are common use.

00:08:58.000 But the problem is when you have a thousand anonymous sources coming forward, you sort of have to take everything with a grain of salt until further information is confirmed.

00:09:05.000 The media is not doing that.

00:09:06.000 Jake Tapper yesterday reported what an anonymous source had said about why Comey was fired.

00:09:10.000 Now if this is true, then Trump will be impeached, okay?

00:09:12.000 But if it's not true, then where is it even coming from?

00:09:16.000 There are two reasons why President Trump fired Comey.

00:09:20.000 One, Comey's refusal to provide the president with any sort of assurance of personal loyalty.

00:09:27.000 And two, the fact that the FBI's investigation into possible Trump team collusion with Russia in the 2016 election, that that's still not only an active investigation, it's actually accelerating.

00:09:38.000 So basically, the theory here is that Comey wouldn't provide Trump with his assurance of personal loyalty.

00:09:43.000 You could see some of that in Trump's letter, right?

00:09:45.000 The idea that Comey had told him that he was off the hook three times, but that he wouldn't go out publicly and say that Trump was off the hook three times, or even one time.

00:09:53.000 So that is actually, there's some veracity to that.

00:09:55.000 Second claim is the one that matters, and that's the one Democrats are hopping on today.

00:09:58.000 This is the Democrats coming out and saying that the decision to fire Comey is really about obstructing the Russia investigation.

00:10:04.000 Now, here's the part that's crazy about this.

00:10:07.000 There's an entire FBI out there that's still doing the investigation.

00:10:10.000 There's no evidence whatsoever that the investigation will actually be quashed. 0.99

00:10:13.000 In fact, what Trump has now done is he's brought more focus to the investigation, not less focus to the investigation, either through incompetence or stupidity or because he didn't care. 0.98

00:10:22.000 But whatever the bottom line is, 0.98

00:10:24.000 More people now care about the Trump-Russia investigation than cared about it two days ago. 0.82

00:10:28.000 So the idea that he killed the investigation is just silly towns.

00:10:31.000 Now, there's a lot of call for a special prosecutor.

00:10:33.000 Special prosecutor, I think, is a bad idea.

00:10:35.000 The reason a special prosecutor is a bad idea is because once you put a special prosecutor on a case, the special prosecutor will stay there and dig and dig and dig.

00:10:42.000 Until they find something, whether or not it is really related to the key components of the story.

00:10:47.000 So, Kenneth Starr will continue to dig on Clinton until he comes up with Lewinsky.

00:10:50.000 And Patrick Fitzgerald will continue to dig on the Valerie Plame scandal until he comes up with Scooter Libby, who's not even involved in the Valerie Plame scandal.

00:10:58.000 You put a special prosecutor on this thing...

00:11:00.000 And that person will just dig and dig and dig and dig until they come up with something that is not even related and just cast a cloud of suspicion over everything.

00:11:07.000 The best possible outcome here is for Trump to appoint somebody at the FBI who's considered sort of bipartisan, who isn't going to be just a Trump lackey.

00:11:14.000 If he appoints Chris Christie or Rudy Giuliani, people are going to scream bloody murder as well they ought.

00:11:18.000 If you appoint somebody like Mike Lee was suggesting, Merrick Garland, who as you recall was Barack Obama's last Supreme Court nomination.

00:11:26.000 If you appoint somebody who has credibility with Democrats, it's going to be very hard for Democrats to make the claim that this was all a giant cover-up, a crazy attempt by Trump to kill the Russia investigation.

00:11:35.000 But Democrats are out over their skis today.

00:11:37.000 They're trying to push for impeachment without any sort of evidence.

00:11:40.000 Here's Richard Blumenthal, a guy that

00:11:42.000 Trump is now calling, I guess he's saying that he accused him of lying about his war service, which is true, but Richard Blumenthal has become sort of the bete noire for Trump, and here he is, Senator from Connecticut, talking to Anderson Cooper.

00:11:56.000 It is a looming constitutional crisis because it involves a potential confrontation, as did Watergate, between the president and other branches of government.

00:12:04.000 And it may well produce another United States versus Nixon on a subpoena that went to the United States Supreme Court.

00:12:12.000 It may well produce impeachment proceedings, although we're very far from that possibility.

00:12:19.000 And right now, the president has not been charged.

00:12:22.000 And there is a investigation underway which should be given the kind of integrity and independence that it deserves.

00:12:32.000 Because he's way out over his skis here, talking about Nixon, talking about impeachment.

00:12:35.000 This is not like Watergate.

00:12:36.000 Okay, in Watergate, Richard Nixon fired the special prosecutor who'd been set up in order to investigate Watergate.

00:12:43.000 And then the Attorney General, he basically said to the Attorney General, you fire this guy.

00:12:47.000 And the Attorney General said, no, I'm not going to fire this guy.

00:12:49.000 And then he went to the Deputy Attorney General and said, you fire this guy.

00:12:51.000 And he said, I'm not going to fire this guy.

00:12:53.000 So Nixon fired all three of them.

00:12:55.000 And the bottom line is that this is not like that, right?

00:12:59.000 I mean, the Attorney General and the Deputy Attorney General both recommended that Comey be fired.

00:13:02.000 Again, this is not obstructing the investigation by any evidence that I can tell.

00:13:05.000 Yet the Democrats are still going nuts over this.

00:13:07.000 Cory Booker, who has presidential ambitions,

00:13:09.000 He's going crazier than anybody else I've seen.

00:13:11.000 Senator from New Jersey.

00:13:13.000 Great screenshot there, guys.

00:13:14.000 He's saying that the Russians are coming.

00:13:17.000 Donald Trump clearly has not taken this seriously.

00:13:20.000 In what should be a Paul Revere moment for our country, where people are talking about the Russians are coming. 0.67

00:13:26.000 They're intending not only to attack this past election, but intending to continue this behavior.

00:13:31.000 What will our response be?

00:13:32.000 And right now it's been wholly unsatisfactory from this administration.

00:13:36.000 Okay, so this still leaves out the question.

00:13:38.000 Again, he has no answers as to what exactly he suspects is going on or what evidence he has that any of this is happening.

00:13:45.000 Basically, the Democrats are making, hey, while the sun shines, they see that this is an opportunity to bash Trump, and so they're going to go ahead and do it.

00:13:50.000 I will say that there are basically a few different stories today as to why it is that Trump fired Comey.

00:13:56.000 And all of them agree with my theory yesterday.

00:13:58.000 So my theory yesterday, to restate, was that Trump fired Comey because he was pissed at Comey.

00:14:02.000 That simple.

00:14:02.000 He wasn't angry at Comey because Comey wasn't coming out and just saying that Trump was innocent in the Russia investigation, even if other people were still under investigation, like NSA Michael Flynn and former campaign manager Paul Manafort.

00:14:13.000 So he's ticked at Comey for not doing that.

00:14:14.000 It now appears that he was also ticked to Comey because Comey was not taking his wiretapping crap seriously and he wasn't investigating leaks or whatever and so he felt that was a misuse of resources and he wants an FBI director who's going to who's going to try and track down all of his conspiracy theories about the Obama administration again should the FBI be spending time on finding out who leaked

00:14:32.000 The name Michael Flynn to the press?

00:14:34.000 Absolutely they should.

00:14:35.000 And so I don't think that's completely unfair. 1.00

00:14:36.000 But for Trump to get angry at Comey because Comey was not paying attention to his stupid wiretapping allegations, that's absurd because they were stupid wiretapping allegations. 1.00

00:14:44.000 But that's exactly what the Washington Post is reporting. 0.99

00:14:46.000 Quote, Trump had long questioned Comey's loyalty and judgment and was infuriated by what he viewed as the director's lack of action in recent weeks on leaks from within the federal government.

00:14:55.000 By last weekend, he had made up his mind.

00:14:56.000 Comey had to go.

00:14:57.000 The president had already decided to fire Comey, according to this person.

00:15:00.000 But in the meeting, several White House officials said Trump gave Sessions and Rosenstein a directive to explain in writing the case against Comey.

00:15:06.000 The president had already desired to fire Comey, according to this person.

00:15:10.000 And bottom line is they decided that they were going to come up with this pretext for firing Comey.

00:15:16.000 But what actually pissed off Trump?

00:15:17.000 One, Comey was on TV too much.

00:15:19.000 Two, Comey refused to say that Trump was innocent.

00:15:21.000 Three, Comey wouldn't provide his personal loyalty guarantee to President Trump, which is just insane.

00:15:26.000 The FBI director should never be forced to provide a personal loyalty guarantee to any president.

00:15:29.000 That is not his job.

00:15:31.000 Again, all of this reflects badly on Trump.

00:15:33.000 None of it suggests that Trump is actually in the pay of the Russians or in collusion with the Russians.

00:15:37.000 Now, with that said, there's a media report from the Wall Street Journal that really is kind of a bombshell.

00:15:42.000 It says, in the weeks before Trump fired FBI Director James Comey, a federal investigation into potential collusion between Trump associates and the Russian government was heating up as Mr. Comey became increasingly occupied with the probe.

00:15:53.000 Mr. Comey started receiving daily instead of weekly updates on the investigation, beginning at least three weeks ago, according to people with knowledge of the matter and progress of the Federal Bureau of Investigation probe.

00:16:03.000 Mr. Comey was concerned by information showing possible evidence of collusion, according to these people.

00:16:07.000 So this would be the biggest bombshell, of course, is the idea that there's actually something dirty going on and Trump covered it up.

00:16:12.000 All we have is this anonymous source saying that Comey was concerned about that, but we don't have any evidence that that was actually happening.

00:16:18.000 There's also a report from McClatchy today that the FBI led probe into whether Russian influence operations helped put Trump and the White House on a knife's edge and could easily veer in either of two distinct directions.

00:16:28.000 One possibility is investigators will feel galvanized by Trump's abrupt firing of FBI Director Comey.

00:16:33.000 And burrow even deeper into the probe.

00:16:34.000 Or, with the FBI temporarily rudderless, Trump loyalists in the Justice Department could put the brakes on the investigation in multiple ways.

00:16:42.000 So, all of this does not speak well of the way that this was done.

00:16:45.000 Again, none of it provides evidence that all of this was done.

00:16:47.000 There is a bigger problem here, by the way.

00:16:49.000 And the bigger problem comes in that same Washington Post piece.

00:16:51.000 This deep, long piece about why Trump fired Comey.

00:16:55.000 And it was buried down in the piece.

00:16:56.000 And it's actually a big story.

00:16:57.000 It says, quote, Many employees of the FBI said they were furious about the firing.

00:17:02.000 Saying the circumstances of Comey's dismissal did more damage to the FBI's independence than anything Comey did in his three plus years in the job.

00:17:09.000 One intelligence official who works on Russian espionage matters said they were more determined than ever to pursue such cases.

00:17:15.000 Another said Comey's firing and the subsequent comments from the White House are attacks that won't soon be forgotten.

00:17:20.000 Trump had quote essentially declared war on a lot of people at the FBI one official said.

00:17:24.000 I think there will be a concerted effort to respond over time in kind.

00:17:27.000 This is dangerous.

00:17:28.000 When the intelligence community, Trump's been saying this for a long time and he's actually right about it, when the intelligence community decides that it is their job to take down Trump because they don't like what Trump is doing, that is dangerous and that is a problem.

00:17:39.000 And the fact is that two things can be true at once.

00:17:42.000 One, Trump handled the Comey firing absolutely badly.

00:17:44.000 It looks really a lot worse than it probably is.

00:17:47.000 And two, the intelligence community does not have the wherewithal

00:17:52.000 To begin saying that we're now going to oust Trump because we don't like what he did to Comey.

00:17:54.000 Okay, that's dangerous.

00:17:55.000 That is a branch, that is a coup, that is an attempt inside government to get rid of the sitting president of the United States, and that is unacceptable under all of these circumstances.

00:18:04.000 Well, I want to talk more about this.

00:18:05.000 I want to talk about the fallout and why this actually matters for the Republicans.

00:18:08.000 Why shouldn't Republicans just blow it off, say this is overblown, say this is silly, this is just Democrats talking too much.

00:18:13.000 Why Republicans should take this seriously.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - May 11, 2017

Ep. 301 - Comey's Gone, And The Russians Are Coming! Or Are They?

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