The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 303 - Another Day, Another Russia Scandal

It's apparently terrible to tell millennials to save their money or invest their money these days. On Monday, a news broke worldwide that an Australian real estate developer, Tim Gurner, had explained that one of the secrets to financial success was saving and investing, rather than spending. Quote: "We're at a point now where the expectations of younger people are very, very high. They want to eat out every day, they want to travel to Europe every year. They're spending money on travel, they're eating out more, and they're traveling more." Well, to avoid the implications of this, the New York Times fact checked him, and found that he was correct. But does that help explain why millennials can't afford to buy a house? Or is it because they're poor and poor people are spending more than they can afford? Or because they are younger and poorer than their parents were when they were growing up? And if they don't like their financial situations, perhaps they should start by examining their own financial situations? The problem here isn't that people don't want to hear the truth, it's that their lives are in their hands, and their lives aren't in their control. Ben Shapiro's solution is simple: they should be in their own hands, not in the hands of their parents, but in their parents' or their grandparents' and their own heads, not their grandparents to make their own decisions and take charge of their own money and take responsibility for their own lives. The Ben Shapiro Show is a show about what matters, and what matters to them, not so much as what they can and doesn't matter, and doesn t matter what they're told them by their parents or their parents do or don't care about. It's not about what they should do, but about how they're going to get a good night's rest. And it's about how much money they have, not how much they should have, and how they should spend it, not what they have enough of it, and that they should use it not how they can have it. What is a good bedtime story about you can be a good one, not a good story about what you should have to sleep in bedtime? - Ben Shapiro I bought a set of Bull & Branch sheets from Bull and Branch and they are the best sheets you can buy on the market so you can sleep on them.

00:00:00.000 So, it's apparently terrible to tell millennials to save their money or invest their money these days.

00:00:04.000 On Monday, news broke worldwide that an Australian real estate developer, Tim Gurner, had explained that one of the secrets to financial success was saving and investing rather than spending.

00:00:13.000 Quote,

00:00:19.000 We're at a point now where the expectations of younger people are very, very high.

00:00:23.000 They want to eat out every day.

00:00:24.000 They want to travel to Europe every year.

00:00:25.000 I think until this generation realizes that the people that own homes today worked very, very hard for it, saved every dollar, did everything they could to get up the property ladder, they won't get ahead.

00:00:34.000 You might have to buy an investment property first.

00:00:35.000 You might have to share with mom or dad.

00:00:37.000 You might have to buy with a friend.

00:00:38.000 But you've got to get your foot in the door and you've got to slowly get up the ladder.

00:00:41.000 This was apparently a terrible thing to say.

00:00:43.000 Never come between a millennial and her avocado toast. 0.90

00:00:46.000 But obviously, Goerner was talking about the choice by some young people to spend repeatedly on lifestyle rather than saving.

00:00:51.000 He didn't restrict his comments to the rather silly example of avocado toast.

00:00:55.000 He talked about European vacations too, which are a little bit more expensive.

00:00:58.000 Naturally, to avoid the implications of Goerner's correct statement, the New York Times fact-checked him.

00:01:02.000 They wrote, quote,

00:01:03.000 The truth is, even if millennials assumed the eating out habits of baby boomers, it would take around 113 years before they could afford a down payment on a home, assuming a 20% down payment on the median price for a home in the U.S., $315,000 in March 2017, and a 1% yearly yield rate. 0.54

00:01:17.000 The average price of a single avocado in March was $1.25, according to the Haas Avocado Board.

00:01:22.000 One Twitter user, Nora Biet-Timmons, calculated that a serving of avocado toast cost her about $1.65.

00:01:28.000 Or $477,896, the average price of a home in Brooklyn.

00:01:34.000 But does the New York Times have any decent advice for millennials, other than snarking about avocados?

00:01:38.000 Of course not.

00:01:39.000 Here is the fact.

00:01:40.000 Everybody is spending more now, but millennials cannot afford to do so because they are younger and poorer.

00:01:45.000 While the New York Times acknowledges that all generations of Americans are eating out more, for example, it fails to evaluate whether younger people can afford to do so in the way older people can.

00:01:54.000 When we were younger, my wife and I didn't eat out nearly as much as we do now.

00:01:57.000 We also had a lot less money.

00:01:58.000 Overall, young people are racking up debt much faster these days.

00:02:01.000 Here's ABC News from several years ago.

00:02:12.000 The median debt level among card-carrying undergrads rose to $1,770 in 2001 from $1,236 in 2000, an indicator that more students are using their cards regularly and may not be paying off the balances each month.

00:02:25.000 Here's CNBC from 2015.

00:02:27.000 More than half of millennials, people aged 18 to 34, reported a credit score below 670.

00:02:32.000 Millennials are even turning to payday loans and pawn shops to put cash in the bank.

00:02:36.000 Millennials aren't getting married or buying homes thanks to cost, and they're not putting money in the stock market, but they are spending money on travel.

00:02:41.000 Some millennial money trouble comes from the global financial downturn, of course, but to neglect personal decision-making in terms of investing is a mistake.

00:02:48.000 Why wouldn't investors tell kids to save up?

00:02:50.000 Because it might hurt their feelings and suggest that they have agency in their own lives.

00:02:54.000 When I told a group of students in a downtrodden public school, O.T.

00:02:57.000 Ranch High School, that in a free country like America, permanent poverty is a function of making poor financial decisions, the high school principal actually dismissed the students

00:03:05.000 Telling me that too many of their parents were impoverished and thus might feel insulted.

00:03:10.000 The problem here isn't loose talk about avocado toast.

00:03:12.000 It's that people don't want to hear the truth.

00:03:14.000 Their lives are in their hands, and if they don't like their financial situations, perhaps they should start by examining their own decisions.

00:03:19.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:03:20.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:03:25.000 Alrighty, another day, another quasi-scandal.

00:03:27.000 We will talk about two big stories, one from the right and one from the left, that everybody seems to be buying into, and what is true and what is not.

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00:04:56.000 Okay, so, the big story of the day.

00:04:58.000 There are two big stories of the day, one from the right and one from the left, and I want to discuss them both in detail.

00:05:02.000 I'm going to start with the one from the right, because I think that there's more to talk about in the one from the left.

00:05:07.000 That's the one that's leading all the newspapers.

00:05:09.000 So, the one from the right that is being pumped by Fox News, is being pumped by Drudge, is being pumped by Breitbart News today, is this story about a guy named Seth Rich.

00:05:19.000 So, Seth Rich is a former, was a former

00:05:23.000 He was a member of the DNC, he was a guy who worked at the DNC, and he was shot back in, during the middle of the election cycle.

00:05:31.000 He was killed on the street.

00:05:32.000 And there was a lot of suspicion about that because while the police had been investigating it as an armed robbery gone wrong, nothing was stolen.

00:05:40.000 He had like a $2,000 necklace on him, his wallet was left on him, and so there are a lot of accusations that this was actually an assassination.

00:05:45.000 So, last night, Fox DC5 reports that a private investigator named Rod Wheeler

00:05:50.000 I do believe the answer is to murdered who murdered Seth Rich sits on his computer on a shelf at the DC police or FBI headquarters.

00:05:55.000 So the accusation here is that

00:06:05.000 The Wikileaks group was actually getting the DNC emails, not from the Russians, but from an insider at the DNC.

00:06:12.000 The DNC was basically, they had a mole, and the mole was very upset about Bernie Sanders losing, and so he was sending all sorts of information, thousands upon thousands of emails, to Wikileaks, and then he was shot over it, presumably by somebody associated with the DNC or the Hillary Clinton campaign, is what the right would have you believe, or at least the conspiratorial right would have you believe.

00:06:31.000 It would also debunk a lot of the stories about how Russia was the one hacking the DNC.

00:06:35.000 It would turn out that it was an inside job from somebody who was presumably just a Bernie Sanders supporter.

00:06:41.000 It would be more of an Edward Snowden situation, not necessarily a spy situation, which would change a lot of the Trump-Russia talk.

00:06:48.000 Fox News has now reported that an anonymous federal investigator said 44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments between DNC committee leaders spanning January 2015 through late May 2016 were transferred from Rich to the director of WikiLeaks, Gavin McFadden, who's also recently deceased.

00:07:06.000 They say that an anonymous federal investigator had said this.

00:07:09.000 So we have an anonymous source saying something.

00:07:10.000 Well, the family has denied these reports and slams Wheeler for violating confidentiality.

00:07:14.000 Basically, they release a statement that says that there is no evidence and no emails suggesting WikiLeaks links.

00:07:21.000 Their statement says, as we've seen through the past year of unsubstantiated claims, we've seen no facts, we've seen no evidence, we've been approached with no emails, and only learned about this when contacted by the press.

00:07:30.000 Even if tomorrow an email was found, it is not a high enough bar of evidence to prove any interactions.

00:07:34.000 As emails can be altered, and we've seen that those interested in pushing conspiracies will stop at nothing to do so.

00:07:39.000 We are a family who is committed to facts, not fake evidence that surfaces every few months to fill the void and distract law enforcement and the general public from finding Seth's murderers.

00:07:46.000 The services of the private investigator who spoke to press was offered to the rich family and paid for by a third party, and contractually was barred from speaking to press or anyone outside of law enforcement or the family unless explicitly authorized by the family.

00:07:58.000 So, here is the bottom line on this particular story.

00:08:00.000 We just don't know enough at this point.

00:08:03.000 We don't know.

00:08:03.000 The family, obviously, is saying they don't believe this.

00:08:06.000 The FBI has not released a statement on any of this.

00:08:09.000 The DC police denies all of this.

00:08:12.000 With all of that said, people are jumping onto the anonymous sourcing here, and they're jumping onto this...

00:08:18.000 P.I., this private investigator, who has a bit of a sketchy history, they're jumping on this to basically suggest that this is the big scandal of the day, is that Seth Rich was murdered because he was sending DNC emails to WikiLeaks.

00:08:30.000 So, here's the bottom line.

00:08:31.000 Not enough evidence to say one way or another.

00:08:33.000 Not enough evidence to say one way or another.

00:08:34.000 We still don't know who did the murder.

00:08:35.000 We know that the family objects to this.

00:08:37.000 We know that the P.I.

00:08:38.000 is shaky, and the FBI has not released a statement.

00:08:41.000 When more information comes out, then we can make a judgment.

00:08:44.000 Unfortunately, people aren't waiting to make a judgment, they're just jumping on it.

00:08:47.000 And this shows, I think, that confirmation bias has absolutely seeped into every aspect of news coverage.

00:08:53.000 Right now, people are seeing a story, they're deciding whether they like the story or not, and then they're believing it based on whether they like it or not.

00:08:59.000 They're seeing a story that's filled with anonymous sources, like this anonymous FBI guy, and they're deciding whether they like the anonymous source based on what the anonymous source is saying.

00:09:06.000 They're looking at a story like this and they're saying, well, sure the family says that this was leaked in violation of confidentiality, but leaks are okay because we think it's an important story.

00:09:14.000 So, now flip the script and we're going to talk about the story from the left.

00:09:17.000 Okay, so the Washington Post reports last night that President Trump, during that meeting with the Russians that we talked about last week, and the day after he fires FBI Director James Comey, the Washington Post reports that he has this meeting with Sergey Kislyak, who's the ambassador from Russia and who is a spymaster by pretty much every available

00:09:36.000 We're good to go.

00:09:56.000 We're good to go.

00:10:22.000 After Trump's meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency.

00:10:29.000 This is code word information, said a U.S.

00:10:31.000 official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies.

00:10:38.000 The Washington Post, by the way, says that they have the information.

00:10:41.000 But they're not going to print the information because it would be unsafe to print the information.

00:10:45.000 They say the Post is withholding most plot details, including the name of the city that apparently Trump mentioned, at the urging of officials who warned that revealing them would jeopardize important intelligence capabilities.

00:10:55.000 So, the story is basically that there are a couple of anonymous sources inside the Trump White House who leaked that Trump had revealed highly classified information to the Russians.

00:11:03.000 So, a couple things out of the way, first and foremost.

00:11:05.000 One,

00:11:06.000 Even if Trump did that, it's not criminal.

00:11:07.000 Okay?

00:11:08.000 The President gets to decide what's classified and what's not classified.

00:11:11.000 Article 2 of the Constitution says nothing about classification standards not being impacted by the President.

00:11:17.000 The President can decide to declassify things as fast as the President wants, so Trump didn't do anything criminal.

00:11:22.000 That said, if the Democrats decide, or if the Republicans decide, Congress can impeach for stuff that's not criminal.

00:11:28.000 So, this is still not great stuff.

00:11:31.000 I mean, just because the president did something legal doesn't mean it's something good.

00:11:34.000 Point number two. 0.98

00:11:35.000 Yes, Democrats are hypocrites when it comes to leaks. 0.99

00:11:36.000 The Democrats leaked all the time. 0.99

00:11:39.000 They leaked classified information to our enemies on a routine basis.

00:11:42.000 In 2011, for example, this did not get a lot of attention, even though it was a big story.

00:11:46.000 In 2011, Joe Biden, then the vice president, revealed that it was SEAL Team 6 that had killed Osama bin Laden, and there were members of SEAL Team 6 families who felt that he had put a target on their back by revealing this information publicly.

00:11:57.000 Let me briefly acknowledge tonight's distinguished honorees.

00:12:01.000 Admiral Jim Stavridis is a real deal.

00:12:05.000 He could tell you more about and understands the incredible, the phenomenal, the just almost unbelievable capacity of his Navy SEALs and what they did last Sunday.

00:12:19.000 Okay, so there he was, you know, spilling classified information, and it ended up actually being quite tragic, because SEAL teams were then targeted by Al-Qaeda, apparently, but that was not a big scandal on the left or among the media.

00:12:32.000 Obviously, the Obama administration also leaked

00:12:34.000 Information from our allies repeatedly, particularly from Israel.

00:12:37.000 They leaked information over and over and over about Israeli plans to strike the Iranian nuclear facilities in an attempt to stop Israel from doing all of that.

00:12:43.000 So, those two points out of the way.

00:12:44.000 One, it's not criminal.

00:12:45.000 Two, the Obama administration did stuff like this all the time.

00:12:48.000 It is still bad.

00:12:49.000 It's still a really bad thing.

00:12:50.000 If the President of the United States cannot be trusted with classified information, if he's just going out there and saying things to people openly because he's got an ego problem, which is supposedly what

00:13:01.000 happened, you got a problem.

00:13:03.000 So apparently what happened is that when Trump described measures the U.S.

00:13:08.000 has taken or is contemplating to counter the threat of ISIS, including military operations in Iraq and Syria, as well as other steps to tighten security, Trump cast the countermeasures in wistful terms.

00:13:18.000 He said, can you believe the world we live in today?

00:13:19.000 Isn't it crazy?

00:13:20.000 So he was just supposedly showing off.

00:13:22.000 Now here is the problem.

00:13:24.000 Okay, so the White House denies the story.

00:13:27.000 But there are a couple of different types of denial.

00:13:28.000 So, Dina Powell, who is the Deputy National Security Advisor, she denies this story wholesale.

00:13:33.000 She says, none of this ever happened, none of this ever happened.

00:13:35.000 And then, H.R.

00:13:36.000 McMaster, who is the National Security Advisor, who has a high level of trust with conservatives, as well he should, he comes out, and he gives a statement, a 60-second statement last night without taking any questions, and here's what he said last night about this Washington Post story.

00:13:49.000 There's nothing that the President takes more seriously than the security of the American people.

00:13:54.000 The story that came out tonight, as reported, is false.

00:13:57.000 The President and the Foreign Minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two countries, including threats to civil aviation.

00:14:06.000 At no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed.

00:14:11.000 And the President did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known.

00:14:18.000 Two other senior officials who were present, including the Secretary of State, remember the meeting the same way and have said so.

00:14:25.000 Their on-the-record accounts should outweigh those of anonymous sources.

00:14:28.000 And I was in the room.

00:14:30.000 It didn't happen.

00:14:32.000 Thanks, everybody.

00:14:33.000 Okay, I was in the room.

00:14:34.000 It didn't happen.

00:14:34.000 Now, the question has become, what does it mean?

00:14:36.000 Because the fact is that what H.R.

00:14:37.000 McMaster is saying here is sort of a denial.

00:14:40.000 Like, I just want to be exact about this.

00:14:41.000 It's sort of a denial, and it's sort of not.

00:14:43.000 Okay, so it's a denial of things that the Washington Post never claimed.

00:14:46.000 So the Washington Post never claimed that Trump had revealed intelligence sources or methods.

00:14:49.000 What the Washington Post claimed is that Trump had said something about a particular city where there was an ISIS operation taking place, and the fact that we knew about it endangered one of our sources.

00:14:58.000 That's basically the Washington Post's claim.

00:15:00.000 McMaster is denying something the Washington Post never claimed there.

00:15:03.000 This morning, H.R.

00:15:04.000 McMaster came out and he said something different, which we'll get to in just one second.

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00:16:33.000 So, McMaster goes out there, he denies it, sort of.

00:16:36.000 Dina Powell denies it,

00:16:38.000 Completely.

00:16:39.000 Secretary of State Rex Tillerson echoes McMaster's statement, and then, President Trump, who just cannot help himself, he just cannot help himself, he gets up this morning, and he goes on Twitter, and he tweets,

00:17:01.000 So, he had his entire team go out there and say it never happened, and then he goes out there and he says, it happened, but it's okay that I did it.

00:17:08.000 Okay, that's not the same case.

00:17:09.000 That's not the same case.

00:17:10.000 And that's open to debate, because we don't know what the information is, so how are we ever supposed to confirm or deny that what he said was okay to say?

00:17:17.000 We have no way of knowing that.

00:17:19.000 If it really was okay, then presumably the White House could do something very easy.

00:17:21.000 They could just release the transcript of the conversation, which they have.

00:17:26.000 McMaster came out this morning and he said, yeah, Trump said something but none of us found it objectionable.

00:17:30.000 It wasn't really a big deal.

00:17:32.000 McMaster said the president was not even aware of where the information came from.

00:17:35.000 He wasn't briefed on the source and method.

00:17:38.000 So he couldn't have revealed the source and method.

00:17:40.000 Okay, well, but that wasn't the claim.

00:17:42.000 I mean, the claim was not that he was briefed on the source and method or that he revealed the source and method.

00:17:46.000 The claim was that he revealed confidential information, classified information that could actually put somebody in the line of fire.

00:17:52.000 That was essentially what he, what the claim was.

00:17:55.000 And McMaster is now saying, and Trump is now saying, that it's not a big deal what he revealed.

00:18:00.000 Okay, but there are two problems with this.

00:18:01.000 One, that's subjective.

00:18:02.000 So it's possible that our allies could look at that and they could say, well, he may not think it's a problem, but I think it's a problem.

00:18:06.000 I'm never giving Trump classified information again.

00:18:09.000 There was a report from earlier this year that the Israelis had stopped giving Trump classified information because they were afraid that Trump was just going to spill it on the record somewhere.

00:18:16.000 So there's that.

00:18:17.000 There's also the problem with, okay, well, if it really was not that big a deal, why don't you just declassify it?

00:18:21.000 Why don't you just release the conversation?

00:18:23.000 Again, why is any of this a big deal?

00:18:25.000 Because it goes to character, and President Trump is having a problem of character inside his administration.

00:18:30.000 He's having a problem of character inside his administration, and he's undermining people inside his administration whose credibility he needs to uphold.

00:18:38.000 He needs to uphold McMaster's credibility, and it doesn't look good when McMaster comes out last night, says the story is false, and then the next day comes back and says, well,

00:18:44.000 I really said that most of the story was false, you know, the parts that weren't there, but it's kind of true, but it's not a big deal.

00:18:50.000 This is the same thing that happened last week, if you recall, all the way back to last week.

00:18:54.000 My God, time just has stopped moving.

00:18:57.000 Last week, the President of the United States trotted out half his administration, including Vice President Pence, to say...

00:19:03.000 That all of this that was going on with FBI Director Comey had been spurred by the Deputy Attorney General sending a letter.

00:19:08.000 And then two days later, he went on national news and he said, no, no, no, I was going to do it anyway.

00:19:12.000 It had nothing to do with that.

00:19:13.000 After his entire press team had gone out there and blamed it on Rod Rosenstein.

00:19:18.000 So the big problem here is Trump.

00:19:19.000 The big problem here is Trump.

00:19:20.000 And the reason that this is a problem is because if you don't have credibility with the American people, then you're going to have a hard time pushing legislation.

00:19:26.000 You're going to have a hard time wooing allies.

00:19:28.000 You're going to have a hard time doing the things the president actually needs to do.

00:19:32.000 You're also going to be undercutting your case for how careful you are about classified information.

00:19:36.000 So, I mean, the left is having a field day with this, of course, and you knew they were.

00:19:40.000 It doesn't make them not dishonest.

00:19:41.000 They are dishonest.

00:19:42.000 But the left is having a field day.

00:19:44.000 The point here is that the left is going to be left.

00:19:46.000 You knew they were going to be the left.

00:19:48.000 Are you going to be the one who decides to step on every rake in a hundred mile radius? 1.00

00:19:53.000 It's just foolish. 0.95

00:19:54.000 You know, Trump spent half of this campaign talking about how Hillary had not protected classified information. 0.99

00:19:59.000 Here's a montage of Trump talking about it over and over and over again.

00:20:02.000 The Secretary of State was extremely careless and negligent in handling our classified secrets.

00:20:12.000 She lied about passing on classified information, right?

00:20:16.000 In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information.

00:20:25.000 She said she said nothing more classified!

00:20:28.000 A total lie!

00:20:30.000 We can't have someone in the Oval Office who doesn't understand the meaning of the word confidential or classified!

00:20:39.000 Okay, again, you spend the entire campaign saying this, and then you undercut your own case because you can't stay off Twitter.

00:20:44.000 And because you can't keep your mouth shut.

00:20:46.000 It's a problem of character, and that does have ramifications.

00:20:49.000 Now, I could sit here and make everybody happy today by just bashing the left, and that's very easy to do.

00:20:53.000 But here's the problem.

00:20:54.000 The same people on the right who are buying the Seth Rich story hook, line, and sinker, which we don't have verified yet, are saying this is all fake news now even though Trump has already sort of confirmed it.

00:21:02.000 And conversely, people on the left who are dismissing the Seth Rich stuff are immediately buying everything about this story before anything has sort of been confirmed.

00:21:10.000 The confirmation bias in the news is extraordinarily strong.

00:21:12.000 There's more information that the Washington Post story is true at this point, because Trump has quasi-confirmed it and so has McMaster, than there is that the Seth Rich story is true, but I would just like to point out the inconsistency that everybody seems to be suffering from in evaluating these stories.

00:21:25.000 Anonymous sources are anonymous sources until there's confirmation.

00:21:28.000 Leaks are bad.

00:21:29.000 Leaks are really bad.

00:21:31.000 But the leak is not actually the story, and you don't get to say that the leak is the big story if you spent the entire campaign saying that WikiLeaks was not the story, it was the content of the WikiLeaks that actually mattered.

00:21:41.000 This is really not good stuff, but I want to talk a little bit more about how Trump can fix this, because it's actually really easy to fix if you would just listen and stop.

00:21:48.000 It's easy to fix.

00:21:49.000 And we'll talk about Democratic overreach, plus we have to deconstruct some culture.

00:21:53.000 But for this, listen, guys, you know, I wish every day I could come on here and talk about the great stuff Trump is doing, but he needs to do good things in order for me to talk about it.

00:22:00.000 So, again, I just hope and pray that he does.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - May 16, 2017

Ep. 303 - Another Day, Another Russia Scandal

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