The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 304 - Democrats Cry Impeachment, But Is It All A Setup?

Mother s Day marks an awkward time of year for those on the hard left. First, there are those who deny the value of motherhood. Then there are people on the left who believe that childbearing and childrearing aren t central to the female mission, that checking accounts receivable is more socially and individually rewarding. In this category, we could put Ivanka Trump, who tweeted about the wage gap on Mother s Day, even though the only true reason for the difference in overall earnings between men and women is attributable to motherhood, and it turns out that it may be worth families foregoing mom doing extra work at the office if she can spend more time at home with the kids. But the fun, or lack thereof, doesn t stop there for the radical left. One Canadian school has reportedly ditched Mother's Day and Father's Day because they are not sufficiently inclusive. And now we're doing away with Motherhood. Do we have any values in common anymore? Fortunately, most Americans still reject this stupidity. Ben Shapiro: Motherhood still has inherent and beautiful value, and she's still a good mother. If you're sick of going to restaurants where they pile on all the salt and pile on the salt, and then charge you for it, then you should try Blue Apron. Blue Aprons is the cleanest and best way to eat. They send you recipes that are pre-made for you, pre-sauce and pre-prepared for you. They also give you a different recipe every night, so you can cook up a delicious meal that you veer from your favorite gourmet classics. And they won't make you want to spend $10 or more per person! and you can now spend less than $10 per person per person, and you get something new every single day. You won't have that freshness and you won t have to do that, you can make it ready to cook it in the kitchen, you re gonna make it so you ve got it right there, right to do it, right in your kitchen, and they re gonna cook it by serving you a whole meal, you ve veg, you ll have it, you get it, it s all that you can do it right to make it, no matter where you go and you don t even have to pay for it. You ve got the fresherness and it s going to be healthy and you vegetable, you d have it.

00:00:00.000 Mother's Day marks an awkward time of year for those on the hard left.

00:00:02.000 First, there are those who deny the value of motherhood.

00:00:05.000 Cecile Richards of Planned Parenthood tweeted, By this presumably she meant abortion.

00:00:13.000 Planned Parenthood performs hundreds of thousands of abortions every year.

00:00:16.000 But there is one thing that says I love you mom more than providing abortion care.

00:00:19.000 Babies who aren't aborted.

00:00:20.000 It turns out that in order for the Appalachian mother to have any meaning, children must actually be part of the process.

00:00:26.000 Then there are those people on the left who believe that childbearing and childrearing aren't central to the female mission.

00:00:30.000 That checking accounts receivable is more socially and individually rewarding.

00:00:34.000 In this category, we could put Ivanka Trump, who tweeted about the wage gap on Mother's Day, even though the only true reason for the difference in overall earnings between men and women is attributable to motherhood.

00:00:43.000 It turns out that it may be worth families foregoing mom doing extra work at the office if she can spend more time at home with the kids.

00:00:49.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

00:00:50.000 In fact, it's worth celebrating.

00:00:51.000 But the fun, or lack thereof, doesn't stop there for the radical left.

00:00:54.000 We still haven't dealt with the cisgender nature of Mother's Day. 0.82

00:00:57.000 How could we suggest that women have anything special to celebrate when men can be women? 0.96

00:01:02.000 After all, Dove has run an ad with a transgender woman explaining what motherhood means to him.

00:01:06.000 A columnist for the Toronto Star, Emma Teitel, wrote this week that Mother's Day should be ditched in favor of Guardian's Day, since, quote,

00:01:15.000 An exclusionary.

00:01:16.000 And a drag for non-binary parents who don't identify with a single gender.

00:01:20.000 Tytel says, quote, But we're still not done.

00:01:21.000 How about gay couples?

00:01:31.000 What about children with two daddies?

00:01:32.000 One Canadian school has reportedly ditched Mother's Day and Father's Day because they are not sufficiently inclusive.

00:01:37.000 The administration announced via letter, quote, So, we've already done away with apple pie, far too much sugar for those growing kitties, and now we're doing away with motherhood.

00:01:52.000 Do we have any values in common anymore? 1.00

00:01:54.000 Fortunately, most Americans still reject this stupidity. 1.00

00:01:57.000 Mothers are still mothers. 1.00

00:01:58.000 Motherhood still has inherent and beautiful value.

00:02:00.000 My wife's a doctor, which means she does the most important work there is, but she believes her most important role is as a mother to our two children.

00:02:06.000 And she's right.

00:02:07.000 It's amazing that our society has become so jaded about the value of motherhood, we're willing to overthrow it in favor of gender and sexual sensitivity, as well as increasing women's hours in the workplace.

00:02:17.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:02:17.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

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00:04:24.000 Okay, so, there are two narratives that have now been building up over the last 24 hours.

00:04:34.000 We really need to do two shows a day now because the news is breaking so fast and so furious.

00:04:37.000 So, yesterday, late in the afternoon, the New York Times breaks a piece

00:04:42.000 That essentially claims that Donald Trump said to outgoing FBI director, fired FBI director James Comey back in February that he wanted him to shut down the investigation into former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.

00:04:55.000 This is according to the New York Times, and it's kind of a bombshell for reasons that we'll talk about.

00:04:59.000 So, it says, President Trump, this is the New York Times reporting, and before everyone goes, oh, New York Times, fake news, fake news.

00:05:04.000 Okay, it was confirmed by a bunch of other mainstream media outlets.

00:05:07.000 You don't get to say fake news until something is shown to be fake news.

00:05:10.000 Okay, let's just, simple rule.

00:05:12.000 You don't get to say fake news until the evidence, the preponderance of the evidence shows that it is fake news.

00:05:16.000 Okay, I don't have to, it doesn't have to be beyond a reasonable doubt, preponderance of the evidence.

00:05:20.000 Okay, so let's put this fake news label aside, just because the New York Times reported it doesn't mean that we get to pretend that nobody, that everything they say is a lie.

00:05:27.000 Everything they say is biased, but not everything they say is a lie, and you'll see that in this piece.

00:05:30.000 So it says, President Trump asked FBI Director James Comey to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump's former National Security Advisor,

00:05:37.000 Michael Flynn in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.

00:05:42.000 I hope you can let this go," the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo.

00:05:46.000 The documentation of Mr. Trump's request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and FBI investigation into links between Mr. Trump's associates and Russia.

00:05:56.000 Late Tuesday, Representative Jason Chaffetz, the Republican chairman of the House Oversight Committee, demanded that the FBI turn over all, quote, memoranda, notes, summaries, and recordings of discussions between Mr. Trump and Mr. Comey.

00:06:07.000 Such documents, Mr. Chaffetz wrote, would, quote, raise questions as to whether the president attempted to influence or impede the FBI.

00:06:13.000 Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.

00:06:21.000 It was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created documenting what he perceived as the president's improper efforts to influence a continuing investigation, and FBI agent's contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.

00:06:34.000 Apparently he shared the existence of the memo with senior FBI officials and close associates.

00:06:38.000 The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo, which is unclassified, but one of Mr. Comey's associates read parts of it to a Times reporter.

00:06:44.000 So apparently he said, I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go to letting Flynn go.

00:06:48.000 Trump told Comey he's a good guy.

00:06:50.000 I hope you can let this go.

00:06:52.000 Trump told Comey Flynn had done nothing wrong, according to the memo.

00:06:55.000 So.

00:06:56.000 There are a couple problems with this.

00:06:57.000 One is, we haven't seen the memo yet.

00:06:59.000 So people who are saying, well, this is awful, awful, awful.

00:07:01.000 Again, let's see the memo first.

00:07:03.000 That's number one.

00:07:04.000 Number two, do I believe that the memo is real?

00:07:06.000 Yeah, I do.

00:07:06.000 Because I think that Comey probably created the memo specifically to create a bureaucratic paper trail.

00:07:11.000 This is what career bureaucrats like James Comey do.

00:07:14.000 And I think that this is Comey's revenge on Trump.

00:07:16.000 So two narratives have been generated by this.

00:07:18.000 Narrative number one is coming from the left.

00:07:20.000 Narrative number two is coming from the right.

00:07:22.000 And they are not mutually exclusive. 0.99

00:07:24.000 Okay, so narrative number one coming from the left is Trump is incompetent, Trump's a buffoon, or Trump is nefarious and evil and impeachable. 0.98

00:07:30.000 And the case that they're making, basically, is that here is the chain of events. 0.98

00:07:34.000 If you're a leftist, and you're watching this, or you're a member of the mainstream media, and you're watching all of this unfold, here is the logic that you are using in your head.

00:07:41.000 And we're going to go through it and explain why it's flawed, but here is what you think if you're on the left.

00:07:45.000 Well, here's what you think from the chain of events.

00:07:47.000 Lots of rumors in the election cycle about Trump being in cahoots with Russia.

00:07:51.000 Trump's very nice to Russia the whole time.

00:07:53.000 Then, over the objections of pretty much everybody right and left, he appoints National Security Advisor Mike Flynn to that position, to National Security Advisor, despite the fact that it's pretty widely known that Flynn has some nefarious ties with the Russians.

00:08:06.000 That's all confirmed.

00:08:07.000 That's all known.

00:08:08.000 Then Flynn ends up being fired for reasons that remain sort of unclear.

00:08:12.000 He ends up being fired by the Trump administration.

00:08:14.000 Trump says it's because Flynn lied to Mike Pence about a phone call that he had with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador.

00:08:19.000 But that's not super credible.

00:08:20.000 We still don't really know why Mike Flynn was fired by Trump.

00:08:24.000 It may have just been Trump got sick of him.

00:08:25.000 He was tired of the controversy and decided to off him.

00:08:28.000 Here again is the chain of events from the left.

00:08:30.000 Trump is quote-unquote in cahoots with Russia.

00:08:33.000 This is their background.

00:08:34.000 And if you're starting with that background, which by the way there's no proof of, if you're starting with that background idea, then the rest of this all looks like obstruction of justice.

00:08:40.000 So it looks like he appointed Flynn. 0.79

00:08:42.000 Flynn has to be fired because Flynn is dirty.

00:08:45.000 And then the day after, Trump goes to James Comey and says, I need you to stop your investigation or I hope that you can see your way clear to stopping this investigation into Flynn.

00:08:53.000 And then Comey doesn't stop the investigation into Flynn.

00:08:56.000 And then Trump fires him two months later.

00:08:59.000 Right.

00:08:59.000 That's what the chain of events looks like.

00:09:00.000 It looks like February.

00:09:01.000 There's this conversation.

00:09:02.000 And by May, Flynn is gone and Trump is firing Comey.

00:09:06.000 And then Trump is lying about why he fired Comey.

00:09:09.000 He's sending out people to say that it's all because of the Hillary investigation that Comey botched.

00:09:13.000 I don't know.

00:09:31.000 And we felt like it was a national security threat.

00:09:33.000 Absolutely.

00:09:55.000 Okay, so she says that Flynn was a national security threat, obviously.

00:09:58.000 And so the Democrats have jumped on this to basically say Flynn was a national security threat, Trump wanted to kill the investigation, he told Comey he wanted the investigation killed, and then he fired Comey.

00:10:07.000 So obstruction of justice.

00:10:08.000 And here is every Democrat and media member in the world using that phrase, obstruction of justice.

00:10:12.000 The reason they're saying obstruction of justice is because obstruction of justice is quote-unquote impeachable.

00:10:16.000 Right?

00:10:17.000 Obstruction of justice is a high crime or misdemeanor.

00:10:20.000 It looks like the president's doing something bad, and that means that Congress has the grounds to impeach.

00:10:24.000 Now, we'll talk about whether Congress would do that in any case in a second.

00:10:28.000 The answer is no.

00:10:29.000 But the Democrats are trying to make the case for impeachment, not because they think he's going to get impeached, but because they want to make it a 2018 issue.

00:10:35.000 So here's all these Democrats saying obstruction of justice this and obstruction of justice that.

00:10:39.000 Trump asked Comey, according to news reports, you just mentioned it, to stop the investigation of General Flynn, which is kind of the definition of what obstruction of justice is.

00:10:53.000 Allegation that the president may have engaged in some interference or obstruction of the investigation.

00:11:00.000 I think we know enough now, there's been enough alleged publicly, to want to bring the Director back to testify, ideally in open session, either before our committee or the Judiciary Committee, but he should come back to the Congress and share what he knows in terms of the President's conversations with him.

00:11:16.000 Okay, so bottom line is that if you're a Democrat and you already think Trump is guilty, now you think Trump is more guilty and you think it's obstruction of justice.

00:11:22.000 Now, before everybody on the right goes, well, they're crazy because there's no actual fire here, which is true.

00:11:26.000 There's no actual fire here.

00:11:28.000 Before everybody on the right goes crazy, let's imagine that the situation reversed and Barack Obama

00:11:33.000 There have been rumors about him colluding with the Russians during the 2012 election, and then, after that, there was an investigation into his associates and their ties to Russia, and then he told the FBI director, it would be great if you dropped this, and then he fired the FBI director.

00:11:46.000 You think the right might be crying bloody murder?

00:11:47.000 They would.

00:11:48.000 So, before we suggest that this is utterly uncredible, outside the bounds of reason, the reason I'm saying this, folks, is because I think it's important we're able to have a conversation about what's true and false, instead of immediately leaping to the partisan battle line.

00:11:59.000 So, this is why the Democrats are making this claim.

00:12:02.000 Nancy Pelosi is saying this, too.

00:12:03.000 She says that Trump is unfit for office.

00:12:05.000 There are many facets to this as, you know, is the president, is he fit to be president of the United States when he would do such a thing?

00:12:13.000 You know, there's other takes on it.

00:12:16.000 But I've almost over 20 years of experience as the top Democrat on intelligence or as in the leadership of the Gang of Eight.

00:12:25.000 And this is a this is a dedication.

00:12:27.000 You really have to

00:12:30.000 Read your stuff.

00:12:31.000 Know your stuff.

00:12:32.000 She's hard to watch and she's terrible because obviously when she says unfit for office the first thing we all think is you're Nancy Pelosi.

00:12:37.000 You don't get to talk about unfit for office.

00:12:39.000 But there are very few Republicans who are out there defending Trump yesterday because there's not enough information to defend him yet.

00:12:44.000 So Brett Baier on Fox News last night he said we kept trying to find Republicans to come on and defend Trump on this Comey stuff and we got nothing.

00:12:51.000 We've tried tonight to get Republicans to come out and talk to us, and there are not Republicans willing to go on camera tonight, as of yet, and we'll see if that changes. 0.98

00:13:01.000 Okay, so, narrative number one is the narrative from the left, and that is Trump is fundamentally unfit for office, and that is either true because he is purposefully obstructing justice, or because he's stupid enough to say things that look like obstruction of justice. 0.97

00:13:12.000 Now, 0.98

00:13:13.000 My own take on this is, number one, there is no fire as to the Trump-Russia stuff.

00:13:17.000 There's no evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia.

00:13:19.000 There's not even evidence of collusion between Trump's campaign team and Russia at this point, and this is wildly overblown, obviously.

00:13:26.000 Beyond that, if Trump did say to Comey, if you could see your way clear to dropping this, that'd be great.

00:13:32.000 Does that necessarily constitute obstruction of justice? 0.99

00:13:34.000 Not really, because Trump says lots of dumb things. 0.98

00:13:37.000 I mean, Trump says lots of silly things all the time, and he's very casual in his language, and this is sort of the problem with Trump, is you don't know when to take him seriously and when not to take him seriously. 0.98

00:13:46.000 Which leads to narrative number two, and this is the narrative from the right. 0.87

00:13:48.000 So the narrative from the left today

00:13:50.000 We're good to go.

00:14:10.000 And again, these two narratives are now at war with one another.

00:14:14.000 So, backing that narrative yesterday was H.R.

00:14:16.000 McMaster, the National Security Advisor.

00:14:18.000 He says that the people who leaked the story, another story from last week, that President Trump had given intelligence information, classified information, to the Russians in this meeting, just offhand, he said that the leak of that information is really what's dangerous, not Trump giving it to the Russians.

00:14:33.000 I think the real issue, and I think what I'd like to see really debated more, is that our national security has been put at risk by those violating confidentiality, and those releasing information to the press that could be used, connected with other information available, to make American citizens and others more vulnerable.

00:14:52.000 People on the right are very upset with the leaks.

00:14:54.000 People are saying that this is totally inappropriate because of the leaks.

00:14:56.000 That's what's really dangerous here.

00:14:57.000 It's the effort to get Trump that's dangerous from inside his own administration.

00:15:01.000 It is not Trump himself who is dangerous, and this is all just a manufactured case against Trump.

00:15:06.000 And there's a lot of truth to this, okay?

00:15:07.000 Like, for example, on the Comey thing.

00:15:09.000 If what Trump said to Comey was in fact obstruction of justice, why didn't Comey just quit?

00:15:13.000 The most self-righteous man in America is James Comey.

00:15:16.000 The most self-flattering man in America is James Comey, except for President Trump.

00:15:19.000 Why wouldn't he just quit?

00:15:21.000 Why wouldn't he walk out of the Oval Office and say to the press, guys, I had to leave because Trump clearly wants to obstruct justice on this Mike Flynn thing, and I can't be around to be part of that obstruction of justice.

00:15:30.000 Why didn't he at least announce it?

00:15:31.000 Why didn't he at least say anything?

00:15:33.000 This is the argument that's being made from the right.

00:15:35.000 And there's a lot of truth to this.

00:15:36.000 There's a lot of truth to this.

00:15:38.000 So again, we have these dueling narratives.

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00:15:52.000 Democrats can just keep campaigning against Trump, but Republicans have a conundrum on their hands.

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00:17:04.000 Okay, so as part of the Trump is a victim of a hit that's out to get him, Tucker Carlson was pushing that last night.

00:17:12.000 He says this whole Comey-Flynn bombshell is not really a bombshell.

00:17:16.000 It's just another media hit job.

00:17:19.000 Be skeptical, says the retired Navy SEAL.

00:17:21.000 Be quiet, screams the 33-year-old news anchor, clapping her hands in rage. 1.00

00:17:26.000 How dare you question the authorities, in this case, the news media.

00:17:29.000 Quote, you cannot attack the stellar reporters of CNN, she says, as if this settles the debate.

00:17:34.000 Now, a lot of cable panels have unfolded like this recently, and that is a shame, because as we noted earlier, the world is a very complicated place, Washington especially.

00:17:42.000 What you think is happening often really isn't happening.

00:17:46.000 Okay, so again, I think there's some truth to this.

00:17:48.000 The media are out to get Trump.

00:17:51.000 There's no question that that's true.

00:17:52.000 Dana Bash, right, who's on the left, she says the deep state is out to get Trump, and that's pretty clear from this New York Times report.

00:17:58.000 And if you just take a step back, Wolf, just in the past 24 hours,

00:18:02.000 Right or wrong, what this president has done in his first hundred plus days, even before he came into office, is pick fights with the intelligence community and now the law enforcement community.

00:18:14.000 Particularly the way, never mind that he fired James Comey, but the way in which he did it, not giving him the respect of actually telling him in person or at least not having him find out from cable news.

00:18:24.000 And so

00:18:26.000 We know that this is, you know, they talk about the deep state.

00:18:29.000 Well, this, these are communities that are, that have a lot of loyalty within and know how to get back, even if you're the president of the United States.

00:18:39.000 Look how excited Dana Bash is about all this. 0.99

00:18:41.000 And you can see that the pundits are just overjoyed with all of this, which is why the right reacts to the media by saying, you guys are totally full of crap. 0.99

00:18:47.000 There's nothing here. 0.96

00:18:48.000 Here's an entire montage of pundits just saying impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment.

00:18:52.000 They're obviously very excited about this story and they want impeachment.

00:18:55.000 If these allegations, Senator, are true, are we getting closer and closer to the possibility of yet another impeachment process?

00:19:05.000 Reluctantly, Wolf, I have to say yes, simply because obstruction of justice is such a serious offense.

00:19:12.000 And I say it with sadness.

00:19:15.000 We already nailed down the fact he fired the guy afterwards for not playing ball with him.

00:19:19.000 There's a lot of evidence here.

00:19:20.000 It seems it would take a reasonable person in the direction of perhaps wanting more information.

00:19:25.000 But clearly we're on the trail there to an impeachment.

00:19:27.000 I think we're in impeachment territory for the first time.

00:19:45.000 I'm a lapse lawyer.

00:19:45.000 I cannot tell you whether it meets all the legal definitions, but I can tell you from a lay point of view, it looks like he was trying to impede the investigation.

00:19:52.000 He was using his power to do that, and when James Comey didn't go along with him, when he wasn't his boy, he fired him, which I think is also relevant to the question of what he was trying to do.

00:20:01.000 You've got to identify and lay out for the American public

00:20:06.000 Everything that he has done, these firings, these obstruction of justice, etc, etc.

00:20:12.000 And in the final analysis, Maxine Waters was right.

00:20:15.000 You gotta impeach him.

00:20:17.000 I don't know.

00:20:39.000 What's true and what's false and where we stand in the Republican Party as far as Trump in just a second.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - May 17, 2017

Ep. 304 - Democrats Cry Impeachment, But Is It All A Setup?

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