Ben Shapiro explains why the Trump bump is real, and why it matters. Plus, a call-in from Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Nebraska) about the recent body-slamming of a reporter in Montana, and a mailbag from listeners. Thanks to our sponsor, Wink, for sponsoring this episode of The Ben Shapiro Show. You can get 20% off your first bottle of wine, plus free shipping, when you fill out a quick survey that asks you what tastes like meal you're eating that night, then you can order a bottle direct from Wink at $20.00 plus shipping. You can't ask for much more. If you don't know much about wine, like me, you don t need to have expertise in wine, because Wink is for you, because they provide the expertise for you. And they're also going to help you conform your palate so you can get the best wine you're going to be getting, like, 20 bucks off + complimentary shipping, so you're gonna be getting some wine like you're drinking like a champagnes. Wink is a company that makes great wine, and it's so cheap it's going to make your life better, because it's gonna make you better than good wine. You don't need to be an expert sommelier to drink good wine, you can be a wine connoisseur, because you can drink it direct from a bottle that tastes like a good bottle of Champagne, and you're getting 20 bucks of wine that tastes good and tastes like it's good, too. . And it's also makes you feel like you re getting a good night out of your night out. -Wink's wine is so cheap, it's cheap, you won't even need to pay for a glass or two glasses of wine to drink it in a nice glass of good wine that s going to taste good, you'll be getting a little bit of wine in your mouthful of good vino, you're not going to have to pay a bunch of it in the morning after you've had enough wine to make you feel good about it, too! wink, Wink Wink's wine sipping on a glass of wine sips on a warm day in your day off, and then you'll feel like that sipping it like that's good enough, right there sipping a good day in the afternoon, right in the middleman?
00:00:28.000I know a lot of Zach-lites like when he tweets, but because Trump is overseas and busily traveling the globe, he's not up at all hours watching MSNBC and CNN and tweeting nasty notes to the hosts or retweeting botched summaries of Fox and Friends chyrons.
00:00:40.000He's also not pouring more gasoline on the Trump-Russia kindling the media have said.
00:01:12.000Trump left the country, the country's fine.
00:01:14.000The left promulgates this myth, whereby the president must sit at the controls of the airliner that is the United States each and every day, lest we all go full zombie apocalypse on one another and the plane crashes into a building.
00:01:24.000Instead, Trump is out of the country, partying it up with glowing orbs and swords, and the country's getting along pretty much just fine.
00:02:26.000So we have a huge show coming up for you today, coming up in just a couple of minutes.
00:02:29.000We're supposed to have Senator Ben Sasse from Nebraska, whose book, The Vanishing American Adult, our coming-of-age crisis and how to rebuild a culture of self-reliance, is now number three on the New York Times bestseller chart.
00:02:40.000I'm a big fan of Senator Sasse's, obviously one of the last honest conservatives in Washington, D.C.
00:02:46.000Hopefully we can get the technology worked out.
00:02:47.000He's supposed to call in, so we'll chat with him about the issues of the day.
00:02:51.000We're also going to talk about what's happening in Montana, where a Republican candidate for a special election congressional seat literally body-slammed a reporter.
00:03:00.000And we'll talk about why it is that we continue to vote for people who body-slam reporters, and why it is that that's actually somewhat understandable.
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00:04:36.000Okay, so, Senator Sasse, I do want to ask you about your book, but first, I would be remiss if I didn't ask you about the news of the day.
00:04:41.000I just want to get your basic take on how we should be looking at this situation in which a congressional candidate in Montana has apparently body slammed a reporter.
00:04:49.000It's been confirmed, basically, by a Fox News report.
00:04:52.000You know what should I think obviously everybody of goodwill can look at this and say this is ridiculous But how should Republicans be treating this because now they're stuck between a rock and a hard place They're in the middle of an election.
00:05:02.000They don't want to see a Democrat win a seat How do you think Republicans ought to be treating this?
00:05:06.000Yeah, so I've been in Commitments all morning back-to-back so I know almost nothing current on it except for just the the top-line fact of what happened last night and it seems to be pretty obvious that
00:05:19.000If you are seeking a job as a public servant, one of your most fundamental duties is to teach American civics.
00:05:27.000And since the First Amendment is the beating heart of the American experiment and of American civics,
00:05:33.000That means many, many, many things, but one of the most basic things the First Amendment means is you don't body slam a reporter.
00:05:42.000Well, I appreciate your candor on that, Senator Sasse.
00:05:45.000I think one of the big problems is obviously that if leadership in both parties doesn't say the same thing that you do, then what you end up with is sort of prisoner's dilemma.
00:05:52.000I'm going to explain that a little bit to the listeners.
00:05:54.000You end up with a sort of prisoner's dilemma where people feel, okay, I have to pick the second worst choice, and obviously we're electing a congressman, we're not electing a pastor, and that means that even if somebody does something that I find abhorrent, he's going to be a better legislator than somebody else, but the leadership of both parties needs to stand together and say that when, and it's a problem because they won't do it, that when people act like this, that they should not be seated, in my opinion.
00:06:17.000I don't know what you think about that.
00:06:19.000Yeah, so I'm shooting straight with you that I've had zero conversations with anybody about where any of the leaders are on an issue like that, or whether or not there's been a call for that joint press conference.
00:06:29.000But let's just distinguish between short-term and long-term, because here's what I really care about.
00:06:34.000I get that in a short-term basis, all through life, people are often presented with choices that feel like a lesser of two evils discussion.
00:06:42.000That's not where I spend any of my energy.
00:06:45.000I spend all of my time and energy on this, which is, what are we doing now to build a country where the American people will understand our shared narrative as a people, and where there will be more public trust 5 and 10 and 15 and 20 years from now?
00:07:01.000Because we are not one election away from the eschaton.
00:07:05.000We're not one election away from electing the guy who will drive some majority that's going to pass all their great legislation and they're going to bring about utopia.
00:07:14.000America is centered in the local communities where people work and worship and where they're designing the next great app and where they're persuading people to join the Rotary Club.
00:07:22.000And politics is to provide a framework for that.
00:07:25.000And right now, our politics is so lame and boring and stupidly short-sighted that it always feels like people think they're trying to make the lesser of two evils choice that will bring about heaven on earth.
00:07:39.000And this city is filled with people who are just not interesting enough to project your grand hopes and dreams on.
00:07:45.000And so I think that one of the first duties of all politicians is to announce that politics isn't the center of our life.
00:07:51.000And Senator Sasse is one of the things we love so much about you.
00:07:53.000So, your new book, which I really want to get to, The Vanishing American Adult, Our Coming-of-Age Crisis, and How to Rebuild a Culture of Self-Reliance.
00:07:59.000It's debuting at number three on the New York Times bestseller list for nonfiction.
00:08:05.000I mean, it's not just a politician wrote a memoir and now you should go buy it because the politician needs to make money and put his kids through college.
00:08:10.000Although I assume that Senator Sasse would like to put his kids through college with the money.
00:08:13.000But I think that the book itself is actually an important look
00:08:18.000Why it is that our common culture is eroding.
00:08:20.000We talk a lot on the show, Senator Sasse, about the social capital that used to undergird American society.
00:08:27.000And that's basically what your book is about, correct?
00:08:50.000The tiny point that it touches on policy is recognizing that education needs to be radically reformed and there's going to be different kinds of job training in the future when people are disrupted out of work and jobs at 40 and 45 and 50 and 55 years old.
00:09:03.000But the vast majority of the book is about exactly what you flagged, which is social capital.
00:09:08.000The American experiment recognizes that in a broken world,
00:09:17.000But what we want, and the American founders wanted, what I think the vast majority of the American people actually want, if you put the choice to them, is they want self-control, self-governance, self-discipline, self-restraint, not power and discipline and restraint coming from another, from a political center.
00:09:34.000And right now, this city, D.C., is so populated by folks whose only long-term thought is about their own incumbency that they come to think that politics are the center of life.
00:09:43.000Anybody who thinks that politics are the center of life is not well-suited to be an American politician.
00:09:49.000So, Senator Sess, I want to ask you a question that I was asked last night at Northwestern.
00:09:52.000I was speaking there about a lot of these same exact issues.
00:09:55.000And it's, I think, the hardest question for politicians, particularly.
00:09:59.000And that is, it's easy to a certain extent to say, here's what we need to do if we're starting from scratch, right?
00:10:07.000And I assume that your book is making the case that you need to get married.
00:10:10.000You need to bring your children up in a place where there is social capital.
00:10:13.000We need to make connections with each other at the local level, at our churches and community level, in a de Tocquevillian sense.
00:10:19.000What do we do about the person who's already made a decision that takes them out of that?
00:10:23.000So, you have a single mom, she's already made the decision, a bad decision, that she was going to get pregnant out of wedlock, now she has the baby, and she maybe doesn't have that support network.
00:10:43.000So, you know, we live east of Eden, we live in a fallen world where things are broken,
00:10:48.000And we're all, in my world view, we're not only all sinners, we're also all sinned against.
00:10:53.000And so everybody's always got grievances and pain, and some people have pain that's much more substantial than others of us have ever experienced.
00:11:02.000And so the first thing we need to do is have a shared understanding of what we can and can't accomplish in the world.
00:11:09.000And what you want is a world where people are finding meaning in their local community, where they have meaningful work, where they have families,
00:11:16.000Where they have social capital, where they have friendships, where they have intergenerational relationships, where they have the time and space to wrestle through the really big and important questions, which are so much bigger than politics.
00:11:28.000And what we're really describing there is neighborhood.
00:11:31.000What you want people to have is neighborliness.
00:11:35.000You want them to have meaningful work.
00:11:38.000And so we need to start by admitting that there is scar tissue in the world, but scar tissue is often to be celebrated because scar tissue is the foundation of future character.
00:11:53.000among neighbors and friends as they work through those problems together.
00:11:57.000Charles Murray sometimes uses the line that government's job is to take the difficulty out of things.
00:12:04.000But you've got to be clear about what things you want the government to take the difficulty out of versus not.
00:12:09.000I want the government to take the difficulty out of walking home from a restaurant late at night.
00:12:13.000I don't want there to be violence in anybody's neighborhood when they're walking home from a restaurant or walking home from work late at night.
00:12:23.000To take the difficulty out of cleaning up puke for my six-year-old in the middle of the night.
00:12:28.000Because if the government tries to come into my house and solve that problem, what it'll actually do is create passivity in me.
00:12:35.000And it turns out, as I have three kids, 15, 13, 6.
00:12:39.000I've had many, many sleepless nights over the course of my life where my kids are sick in the middle of the night, and my wife and I are on the edge of arguing with each other about why the other one didn't do enough to prevent this stupid thing from happening, you know?
00:12:51.000Why would you let your kid eat that apple slice off the floor of the athletic arena?
00:12:56.000That's the food poisoning that made him sick.
00:13:16.000And so I think that you're flagging all of the brokenness of different neighborhoods and different social capital and different community.
00:13:22.000Government, we should talk about it because there are things that government should do to mitigate some of the suffering, but we first have to have a shared understanding that government can't possibly bring about utopia.
00:13:33.000Government won't be effective at helping us clean up from a sick kid in the middle of the night.
00:13:38.000So we have to understand that government is limited and bounded.
00:13:41.000Then let's have a meaningful argument.
00:13:43.000I think it's important to distinguish between our commitments, your and mine, to limited government and to small government.
00:13:50.000Because you and I believe in both of them.
00:13:52.000But limited government is far more important than small government.
00:13:55.000Limited government is understanding that government is not utopian and that rights precede government.
00:14:01.000Government isn't the author or the source of our rights.
00:14:03.000Small versus medium-sized government should be what the debate is between the Republican and the Democratic Party.
00:14:08.000How much intervention should there be in the economy?
00:14:10.000And there could be Democrats who, if they would give a full-throated defense of limited government and then make their argument for medium-sized government, I might vote differently than they would, but we could stand together at the kind of press conference you're talking about and reaffirm basic American values and virtues.
00:14:27.000And then we could argue about the stuff we vote on, but we'd recognize that the stuff that we're voting on is central.
00:14:32.000It's not ultimate theological, philosophical dreaming.
00:14:36.000Senator Ben Sasse, The Vanishing American Adult, terrific book, and Senator Sasse, one of the few honest men left in Washington, D.C.
00:14:42.000Really appreciate it, showing that, you know, a phrase that is overused but under-understood, common sense still exists.
00:14:48.000Thanks so much, Senator Sasse, for joining The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:14:50.000Really appreciate your time and appreciate everything you're doing.
00:15:18.000Apparently, he was being asked a question by Ben Jacobs, who's a reporter for, I think, Politico?
00:15:24.000But in any case, he's for The Guardian, and Gin Forte apparently grabs this reporter and body slams him.
00:15:33.000And this guy tweets out last night that I was body slammed, my glasses were broken.
00:15:37.000Here is the reporter, Ben Jacobs, here's his description of being attacked last night.
00:15:43.000Figured he was standing around there just to reach out and get his response to the CBO score.
00:15:47.000Um, that he'd been talking about, uh, that he'd been holding off his opinion on healthcare, at least on the stunt until he saw the CBO score.
00:15:54.000Next thing I know, I'm being body slammed.
00:15:57.000And, uh, he, uh, you know, he's on top of me for a second.
00:16:11.000on my phone and but the audio should be up right now in the Guardian and uh yeah throws me down my glasses break he sort of I think I'm pretty sure he's on top of me wailing for a second and then screams at me to get the hell out um and uh yeah his staffer comes in it's just it's just very strange and mortifying because
00:16:33.000You know, I'm used to... I don't mind being blown off by politics.
00:16:51.000Uh, or a battery is not an assault or a battery because we don't like the person who's being assaulted or batted around or we don't or we do like the person who's committing the assault and battery.
00:17:18.000But here's audio of the actual confrontation between this fellow, Gianforte, the Republican candidate in Montana, and this reporter, Ben Jacobs.
00:17:27.000And we'll talk to you about that later.
00:17:28.000Yeah, but there's not going to be time.
00:17:55.000I mean, the audio is about as clear as it can be, and then Fox News comes out and confirms the account.
00:18:01.000Again, very reminiscent of past situations, but the Fox News reports that, as part of our preparation for a story about Thursday's special election to air on Special Report with Bret Baier, we arranged interviews with the top two candidates.
00:18:14.000I joined field producer Faith Mangan and photographer
00:18:17.000Keith Rally and Bozeman for a scheduled interview with Gianforte.
00:18:19.000The person writing is Alicia Acuna, who is a reporter for Fox News.
00:18:24.000It says, at this point, Gianforte grabbed Jacobs by the neck with both hands and slammed him into the ground behind him.
00:18:29.000Faith, Keith and I watched in disbelief as Gianforte then began punching the reporter.
00:18:33.000As Gianforte moved on top of Jacobs, he began yelling something to the effect of, I'm sick and tired of this.
00:18:38.000Jacobs scrambled to his knees and said something about his glasses being broken.
00:18:41.000He asked Faith, Keith, and myself for our names.
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00:19:58.000Okay, so, the right responds to this news about Gianforte.
00:20:01.000I was online last night when this happened, and half the right says, this is pretty terrible, and the other half of the right goes, well, it can't possibly have happened that way.
00:20:08.000But, the people who are really egregious say things like, well, he had it coming.
00:20:13.000If you believe that a reporter can be bodyslammed because you don't like reporters, then let me say to you that you are doing American wrong.
00:20:23.000Americanism does not constitute people bodyslamming reporters because you don't like the question, especially when the question was, can you give me, the actual question was, can you give me your opinion on the Congressional Budget Office score of the new health care plan?
00:20:52.000In a civilized society, when somebody assaults you, the best answer, if you can do it, is to withdraw and call the police because a crime has been committed.
00:20:59.000The best answer is not to get into tribal warfare where you then go and clock the guy with a bottle.
00:21:04.000This routine where it's like the reporter wasn't manly enough because the reporter didn't stand up to being assaulted is just ridiculous.
00:21:11.000And she continued along these lines, tweet 14, if we can grab that, 14.
00:21:16.000Yeah, she said, did anyone get his lunch money stolen today and then run to tell the recess monitor?
00:21:22.000Okay, if I had something stolen from me, I'd run to tell the police, wouldn't you?
00:21:25.000But again, there's this notion that there's this macho, brash stupidity that really is like high school bullying that has emerged on the right side of the aisle.
00:21:33.000It's existed for parts of the left for a long time, but it's emerged on the right side of the aisle where it's like civilization takes it back to you.
00:21:39.000I'd rather have a macho guy there because strength, strength, power, power, strength, macho!
00:22:00.000The left has jumped on this to immediately suggest that it's about Trump, that Gianforte did this and he's going to get away with it because of Trump.
00:22:08.000I think that Trump is a symptom of something deeper.
00:22:10.000I think Gianforte is a symptom of something deeper.
00:22:12.000Kirsten Powers, who is a person of the left, she says that it's really Trump's fault because he needs reporters all the time that this happened.
00:22:20.000Isn't this possibly tied into the fact that we have a president that's constantly fomenting rage against reporters?
00:22:27.000I mean, is it possible that there's some connection here?
00:22:30.000We have a country that doesn't trust reporting.
00:22:32.000No, no, but it's at a different level than it's ever been.
00:22:34.000I mean, there's no comparison to the way it is today than even a year ago, frankly.
00:22:42.000Okay, this idea that Trump's rage toward reporters, that people who don't like reporters are the reason, maybe it's that Gianforte's a nut, is the reason this happened.
00:22:48.000You can't do this, what Kirsten Powers is doing, because number one, Trump isn't in Montana, even.
00:22:52.000And number two, the fact is that people on the left use this kind of language all the time.
00:22:56.000So, for example, last night, CNN counterterrorism analyst was very angry at Trey Gowdy, who's on the House Intelligence Committee, and this CNN counterterrorism analyst said this about Trey Gowdy.
00:23:08.000See, Phil, that's what's so frustrating.
00:23:23.000If you're an American citizen, and the National Security Agency collects intelligence at its intercepts of Russians who report what you've said, do you think it's fair to go to a court and say that's evidence that you did something wrong?
00:23:36.000That's why the FBI is going to take a year or more to investigate this, because the American citizens involved in this
00:23:41.000Have a right to have evidence presented in a court beyond a conversation that a Russian official reports.
00:23:48.000In my world, this distinction is black and white.
00:23:52.000I know it's frustrating for the American people, but I hope they don't want evidence to be perceived as something that a Russian official says, and that's it.
00:24:02.000Okay, so he actually goes ahead and he says that somebody should kick Gowdy's ass.
00:24:06.000It's really ridiculous that people on the left can say that, and again, they'll say that this rhetoric causes no violence.
00:24:11.000It causes no violence when Barack Obama says things like bring a knife to a gunfight, but it does cause violence when Trump says things like I'm going to defend somebody who punches somebody.
00:24:19.000Okay, so now, with that said, I want to show you why it is that people are going to vote for this guy Gianforte anyway, and there's a logic to this.
00:24:26.000We're going to actually get out the Glenn Beck chart.
00:24:29.000We're going to get out the Glenn Beck whiteboard and do a full on chart.
00:24:32.000So I know that game theory has become sort of a joke.
00:24:36.000I know that people think that game theory, because on Twitter some guy badly laid out game theory.
00:24:41.000But there's a real game theory reason as to why people are going to end up voting for Gianforte.
00:24:44.000So this is a basic prisoner's dilemma.
00:24:46.000In game theory, game theory is really about how two
00:24:49.000How two people play a game together, how they come up with a strategy.
00:24:53.000And the problem is that there's no coordination at the top level between the Republican and Democratic parties to say that bad behavior means you won't be seated.
00:25:00.000Bad behavior means that we're not going to side with you, we're going to pull support.
00:25:03.000So what you actually have, and the right has said this for a long time, is the left will endorse any bad behavior so long as it serves their side.
00:25:09.000We can't be the only ones who are virtuous.
00:25:11.000And you can see how this leads everyone into worse behavior.
00:25:14.000It leads to worse standards for everyone.
00:25:15.000So, the way that Game Theory works is basically, this is the most basic form of Game Theory, it's the most famous form of Game Theory, this is called the Prisoner's Dilemma.
00:25:49.000If you confess, and your partner does not confess, then you get off scot-free.
00:25:54.000You can blame it on your partner, right?
00:25:55.000You can just say, my partner did it, it wasn't me.
00:25:57.000If both of you confess, you're both going to jail for five years.
00:26:01.000If neither of you confesses, then we can't really convict you, so we'll put you in jail for, like, a year for some lesser crime.
00:26:10.000And if you're the person who doesn't confess, if you're the person who stays silent and your other guy blames you, you're gonna end up spending 10 years in prison.
00:26:16.000So that's what it looks like on the board here.
00:26:17.000So, on the board, basically, each of these prisoners has two choices.
00:26:31.000The penalty, as I just laid it out, is if somebody, if both of them are silent, if both of them are silent, then they both go to jail for one year.
00:26:41.000If prisoner one confesses, and prisoner two is silent, then prisoner one goes free because he blames the other guy, and prisoner two gets ten years in prison.
00:26:52.000If they both confess, they both get five years in prison.
00:26:57.000And if, again, Prisoner 1 stays silent and Prisoner 2 confesses, then Prisoner 1 ends up with 10 years in prison and Prisoner 2 ends up with zero years in prison because the person who ended up confessing is the person who ends up
00:27:16.000Okay, so, in the context of voting, when people say it's a binary choice, when people say the Democrats are going to cheat anyway, so it doesn't matter what you do, they're gonna cheat, the reason that both of these prisoners are going to end up confessing is because they don't trust each other.
00:27:30.000If they trusted each other, they would end up here, right?
00:27:33.000If they trusted each other, they would both shut their yaps, and they'd both spend a year in prison, and then they'd go free.
00:27:39.000If they don't trust each other, if Prisoner 1 thinks that Prisoner 2 is going to confess, then he has two choices.
00:27:45.000If Prisoner 1 thinks that Prisoner 2 is going to confess, then he's either going to spend 10 years in prison or 5 years in prison.
00:27:52.000And if Prisoner 2 thinks that Prisoner 1 is going to confess, he has the same exact choice.
00:27:56.000He can either spend 10 years in prison or he can spend 5 years in prison.
00:27:59.000So if they don't trust each other, they're both going to confess.
00:28:01.000And so you actually end up, this is the Prisoner's Dilemma, and this is what I believe they would call the Nash Equilibrium in this particular scenario.
00:28:08.000This is where they would actually end up.
00:28:11.000If you don't trust each other, you end up in that box.
00:28:13.000Now, the Republican Party and Democratic Party don't trust each other.
00:28:16.000The Democrats think the Republicans are going to always elect the worst guy no matter what, and the Republicans think the Democrats are always going to elect the worst guy no matter what.
00:28:23.000So they don't want to be in the position where the Democrats cheat, the Democrats put Teddy Kennedy in office and they don't care about it and it's fine, it's all good.
00:28:31.000And then they're the ones who act virtuously.
00:28:33.000They say, you know, we're not going to vote for our guy because he's a bad guy, and then we lose, and Hillary becomes president, and we lose, and this Democrat in Montana becomes president.
00:28:40.000They don't want to end up in this box, so instead, they say, we'll vote for the crap guy, the guy who's a piece of crap, who body-slammed a reporter, and you end up in this box.
00:28:48.000In other words, the distrust that we have for Americans with one another, we end up both making the second worst choice.
00:28:55.000We both end up making the second worst choice, which for the country as a whole is basically the worst choice, because now both of you are in the worst situation.
00:29:03.000The worst politician is always elected.
00:29:05.000Everyone elects the worst politician, because you don't want to be the guy left out on the outside.
00:29:10.000It assumes, number one, that the person who is the criminal in this particular scenario is the best candidate and doesn't do any damage down the road.
00:29:19.000I think that if Gianforte is elected in Montana, that Democrats will use that as a club to beat Republicans with for years, in the same way that they're now going to use Trump to beat Republicans for years.
00:29:27.000So there are costs down the road, and I think that's what Senator Sasse was saying earlier.
00:29:32.000Was basically laying out that short-term, it looks like the best situation is this, but long-term, you're not going to really win much more doing that, and you're going to undermine your own credibility because you're a criminal.
00:29:44.000So, that's the, that's sort of like, at least here, the contention would be you maintained your silence because you were innocent, right?
00:29:50.000You didn't confess because you were innocent.
00:30:24.000It has to be on the leadership of both parties, because we can't, it's going to be too hard to get all voters all across the country to say we're not going to elect people who body slam people, because clearly the voters, there's a huge percentage of them who don't care.
00:30:34.000They don't care if a politician does something bad.
00:30:36.000So what you really need is a common deal between the leadership of both parties, I'm talking about Schumer and McConnell and Paul Ryan and Nancy Pelosi, that they are not going to seat people
00:30:45.000Well, I would say convicted of crimes.
00:30:50.000People who are convicted of crimes will not be seated in the Congress.
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