The Ben Shapiro Show - June 08, 2017


Ep. 315 - Comey Saves Trump's Bacon, Democrats Weep


Episode Stats

Length

25 minutes

Words per Minute

186.63136

Word Count

4,700

Sentence Count

311

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

Wonder Woman has become one of DC s most iconic characters, along with Batman and Superman, as she should be. She is a feminist for certain. She scoffs at the notion of a secretary as a sort of modern form slavery. At the same time, she goes out of her way to coo at babies. Yes, Feminists like babies. And she falls head over heels for a heroic man, despite her own statements about men being unnecessary for pleasure. That makes her character unpalatable to hardcore feminists, who base feminism not on equality of rights, but on abortion and man-hating. And for rational reasons, it does demonstrate that strong women don t need to be anti-baby or anti-male. They should be fighting for the innocent, and willing to kill in order to do so. That's what feminism should be, but not according to the more militant feminists, which is why they're so mad for no reason at Wonder Woman. This is The Ben Shapiro Show, and it's a must-listen to episode of The Weekly Standard's flagship podcast. Subscribe today using our podcast s promo code POWER10 for 10% off your first pack! Want to sponsor the show? Subscribe, rate and review in iTunes, and become a supporter? Learn more about your ad choices and support the show: bit.ly/support-and-support-the-show. If you like what you're listening to, consider pledging a small monthly fee, and/or become a patron. We'll be giving you a 20% discount when you sign up for the service, and you get 20% off the ad-free version of the show, too! You get 10% all month, plus free shipping and free shipping, plus a discount on future orders, and a free shipping throughout the rest of the world, plus an ad-only version of $5, plus they'll get a whole bunch more perks, too, you'll get the best of the service that includes the best vouching service that gets you get for your ad-and I'll get all the same perks and access to all the best places in the world's best vids, the world gets a whole world gets the same service, the best post-up options, and I'm talking to you get a complimentary rate, and they'll also get the same thing, I'm saying it all that you decide how much they'll be able to do for you, too.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Okay, let's begin with the basics.
00:00:01.000 Wonder Woman is an awesome film.
00:00:03.000 I saw it on opening night with my wife.
00:00:05.000 As a DC Comics fan, Wonder Woman has become one of their three most iconic characters, along with Batman and Superman.
00:00:11.000 She's a driving force in their universe, as she should be.
00:00:13.000 The film does an excellent job of laying out her origin story, and it beautifully balances the feminist underpinnings of her character.
00:00:19.000 She comes from a society in which men are disdained and is eminently more powerful than any man she comes across.
00:00:24.000 In the non-themescular world with obvious femininity.
00:00:27.000 She's a true heroine in the film.
00:00:29.000 She fights for the innocent.
00:00:30.000 She's willing to kill in order to do so.
00:00:31.000 She is far harder core than Batman, for example.
00:00:34.000 She's a feminist for certain.
00:00:35.000 She scoffs at the notion of a secretary as a sort of modern form slavery.
00:00:38.000 At the same time, she goes out of her way to coo at babies.
00:00:41.000 Yes.
00:00:41.000 Feminists.
00:00:42.000 Women like babies.
00:00:43.000 And she falls head over heels for a heroic man, despite her own statements about men being unnecessary for pleasure.
00:00:48.000 Early in the film, she tut-tuts the notion of marriage, as does he.
00:00:50.000 By the end of the film, they're both on board.
00:00:52.000 Plus, she's played by the wonderful Gal Gadot, a two-time mother who was pregnant during filming and just happens to be Israeli.
00:00:57.000 She also served in the Israeli Defense Force for two years.
00:00:59.000 All of this makes her character unpalatable to hardcore feminists, who base feminism not on equality of rights, but on abortion and man-hating and forceful opposition to Western standards of beauty.
00:01:08.000 Here's Christina Cauterici at Slate, quote,
00:01:11.000 To me, whatever chance Wonder Woman had of being some kind of feminist antidote to the overabundance of superhero movies made by and for bros was blown by its prevailing occupation with the titular heroine's sex appeal.
00:01:22.000 Calderici even implies that Chris Pine's character quasi-rapes Diana because, quote, her capacity for consent is somewhat blurry, her never having met a man and all.
00:01:31.000 Here's dude feminist Stephen Rose at The Guardian, quote, Plus, Wonder Woman fights against the Germans in World War I. This makes her an emissary of American militarism.
00:01:38.000 On Tuesday, Josephine Livingstone wrote at the New Republic, quote,
00:01:55.000 Oh no!
00:01:56.000 We mustn't teach the young ones about the fact that the United States saved Europe from fascism.
00:02:01.000 Twice.
00:02:01.000 That would be terrible.
00:02:03.000 Most feminists seem pretty enthused about the movie overall.
00:02:05.000 It should be said.
00:02:06.000 But the fact that many are not should show how out of touch the radical feminist movement has become.
00:02:12.000 The film is great for teenage girls, and while it's clearly a fantasy, nobody, man or woman, could rush through bullets of World War I in the way Wonder Woman does, but it's men who typically do the fighting in war, and for rational reasons, it does demonstrate that strong women need not be anti-baby or anti-male.
00:02:25.000 One of the reasons the movie went over so big is that its brand of feminism is taken for granted in the West.
00:02:30.000 Sexism is no longer a major issue in American society.
00:02:34.000 It's hard to imagine anyone seriously objecting to a fantasy female character fighting baddies while kissing babies and falling in love with a strong male character in traditional fashion.
00:02:42.000 That's what feminism should be, but not according to the more militant feminists, which is why they're so mad.
00:02:46.000 For no reason at all.
00:02:48.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:02:48.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:02:53.000 Okay, so lots to get to today.
00:02:55.000 We're going to get to everything Comey related in just a second.
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00:04:23.000 Okay, tons to get to today with regard to the Comey hearing.
00:04:26.000 So, I will get to what exactly Comey said in the hearing that is relevant and interesting, but first I want to go through the part that actually is most important, and that is the seven-page piece of testimony that he released yesterday.
00:04:38.000 So yesterday he releases text of testimony that he wanted admitted into the congressional record.
00:04:43.000 What he says happened between him and President Trump.
00:04:45.000 Now, in order to understand this, what you have to understand first and foremost is that the Democratic narrative going into this entire Comey hearing is that President Trump colluded with Russia during the 2016 election in order to swing the election to himself, and then he fired Comey in an attempt to cut it off.
00:05:02.000 To cover it up.
00:05:02.000 That was the entire narrative.
00:05:04.000 The narrative was that, okay?
00:05:05.000 It wasn't just Trump acted badly.
00:05:07.000 It wasn't just Trump obstructed justice about unrelated matters.
00:05:10.000 It was that Trump was in bed with the Russians, and then in order to cover it up, he fired James Comey in order to obstruct the investigation.
00:05:16.000 That was the case Democrats were making.
00:05:18.000 And the reason they were making this case is because they didn't want it to seem like Hillary Clinton legitimately lost the election.
00:05:23.000 They wanted it to seem like Hillary actually won the election, if not for Trump moving with Putin in concert.
00:05:29.000 And therefore, he had to move with Putin in concert, they were colluding together, the election was rigged, and then Trump fired Comey to prevent all of that from coming out.
00:05:39.000 That was their narrative.
00:05:40.000 So, yesterday, James Comey releases this seven-page document, and it totally destroys that narrative.
00:05:46.000 It totally destroys that narrative.
00:05:47.000 So, the right is pointing out that it totally destroyed that narrative.
00:05:50.000 On the other hand, it also points out that President Trump is
00:05:53.000 Wildly in over his head when it comes to dealing with his own people that he acted really badly with regard to James Comey the FBI director on a Variety of matters in ways that would tick us off if we were on the left It would take us off and I'll explain how we know that in just a second But first I think it's important to go through the actual documents.
00:06:10.000 We're now going to go through
00:06:12.000 The text of the opening statement that Comey gave on Thursday.
00:06:16.000 Okay, so today he was supposed to give it.
00:06:17.000 He didn't actually read it into the record.
00:06:19.000 He didn't have to.
00:06:19.000 It had already been read by everybody in America.
00:06:21.000 So, he started in this document by describing his first meeting with then-president-elect Trump on January 6th at Trump Tower, at which he personally briefed Trump about an intelligence community assessment concerning Russian interference in the 2016 election.
00:06:34.000 This is this famed BuzzFeed dossier
00:06:36.000 That was supposed to have the pee tapes in it and all of this.
00:06:39.000 So Comey comes to the White House, or rather to Trump Tower, and he tells Trump about this dossier.
00:06:44.000 He says he briefed Trump on the details himself, alone, out of respect for Trump's privacy.
00:06:49.000 Comey explained he was worried that the briefing might lead Trump to believe that the FBI was investigating him, so he wanted to assure Trump that Trump was not being personally investigated.
00:06:57.000 Now, as you recall, when Trump fired Comey,
00:07:00.000 He had in his letter that Comey had said he was not being personally investigated three times.
00:07:05.000 That was true.
00:07:06.000 Comey says that in this document.
00:07:07.000 Comey told Trump over and over and over again he was not being personally investigated.
00:07:12.000 So that part is actually true in what Trump had to say.
00:07:16.000 Okay, so this confirms Trump's account.
00:07:20.000 Then, according to Comey, he spoke with Trump one-on-one nine separate times in four months, three in person, six on the phone.
00:07:25.000 The next meeting that Comey discusses in detail is that January 27th dinner.
00:07:29.000 You remember, Trump went on national TV, he said that Comey basically came in and begged for his job, and then there were reports that Trump had asked Comey for a loyalty oath.
00:07:37.000 He wanted Trump
00:07:38.000 Trump wanted Comey to pledge his loyalty to Trump.
00:07:41.000 Here is Comey's account, quote,
00:08:03.000 Okay, so this is the part where Trump gets into dicey territory.
00:08:05.000 So on January 27th, he meets with Comey and he says to him,
00:08:32.000 You really love your job, don't you?
00:08:33.000 It would be a pity if that job went away, wouldn't it?
00:08:52.000 At one point, I explained why it was so important that the FBI and the Department of Justice be independent of the White House.
00:08:57.000 I said it was a paradox.
00:08:58.000 Throughout history, some presidents have decided that because problems come from justice, they should try to hold the department close, but blurring those boundaries ultimately makes the problem worse.
00:09:07.000 Near the end of our dinner, the president returned to the subject of my job.
00:09:10.000 He then said, I need loyalty.
00:09:11.000 I replied, you will always get honesty from me.
00:09:13.000 He paused and then said, that's what I want.
00:09:14.000 Honest loyalty.
00:09:15.000 I paused and then said, you will get that from me.
00:09:19.000 As I wrote in the memo I created immediately after the dinner, it is possible we understood the phrase honest loyalty differently, but I decided it wouldn't be productive to push it further.
00:09:26.000 So, this is obviously not good for Trump, right?
00:09:28.000 It looks like there's some sort of quid pro quo here.
00:09:31.000 He wants Comey's loyalty in exchange for Comey staying on the job.
00:09:35.000 Okay, next meeting Comey discusses, and we're just gonna go through Comey's testimony, and then we're gonna talk about what it means.
00:09:40.000 Comey moves on to his February 14th counterterrorism briefing with Trump.
00:09:43.000 This is the one where Trump apparently shoes everybody out of the room.
00:09:46.000 He shoes Attorney General
00:09:47.000 Trump repeated that Flynn hadn't done anything wrong on his calls with the Russians, but he had misled the Vice President.
00:10:07.000 He then said, I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go.
00:10:11.000 He is a good guy.
00:10:11.000 I hope you can let this go.
00:10:13.000 I replied only that he is a good guy.
00:10:15.000 He said, I did not say I would let this go.
00:10:17.000 The president returned briefly to the problem of leaks.
00:10:20.000 He goes on and then he says,
00:10:41.000 That's Comey's testimony.
00:10:42.000 So, Comey says he wanted him to stop talking about Flynn generally.
00:10:44.000 He wanted him to stop investigating Flynn over his Russian phone calls in December.
00:11:01.000 But nothing to do with the campaign.
00:11:03.000 So the press is trying to say that, again, this is a cover-up, it's obstruction of justice, but the question is what exactly is being obstructed?
00:11:11.000 So, if you want to say that there is some sort of pressure going on with regard to Flynn and the December phone calls, which, again, there's no underlying evidence that anything wrong happened in those phone calls, but if you want to say that Trump was upset with those, in the investigation of those phone calls, and he was pressuring
00:11:25.000 We're good to go.
00:11:45.000 According to Comey, the conversation was not reported to Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Comey says, because Sessions was about to recuse himself.
00:11:51.000 And then he says, quote, the investigation moved ahead at full speed.
00:11:55.000 So again, Trump may have pressured Comey, but Comey obviously didn't take it sitting down and didn't just stop investigating.
00:12:02.000 Shortly thereafter, according to Comey, he asked Sessions to provide a barrier between Comey and Trump.
00:12:07.000 He said, I told the AG that what had happened, him being asked to leave while the FBI director who reports to the AG remained behind, was inappropriate and should never happen.
00:12:14.000 He did not reply.
00:12:15.000 And then he said, I did not talk about the General Flynn stuff.
00:12:18.000 Okay.
00:12:18.000 Next, Comey talks about a March 30th phone call.
00:12:21.000 Here is his description.
00:12:22.000 Quote, on the morning of March 30th, the president called me at the FBI.
00:12:25.000 He described the Russia investigation as a quote, cloud that was impairing his ability to act on behalf of the country.
00:12:30.000 He said he had nothing to do with Russia, had not been involved with hookers in Russia, and had always assumed he was being recorded when in Russia.
00:12:36.000 He asked what we could do to lift the cloud.
00:12:38.000 I responded we were investigating the matter as quickly as we could and that there would be great benefit if we didn't find anything to our having done the work well.
00:12:45.000 He agreed but then re-emphasized the problems that this was causing him.
00:12:50.000 Now, here is the key.
00:12:51.000 So, that in and of itself sounds damning, right?
00:12:53.000 It sounds like Trump wants Comey to lift the cloud by killing the Russia investigation.
00:12:57.000 But that's not what Comey goes on to say.
00:12:59.000 What Comey goes on to say is, quote,
00:13:17.000 This has been my theory since May, and I was right all along.
00:13:20.000 My theory since Comey was fired was very, very simple.
00:13:24.000 President Trump wanted Comey to come out and publicly say that President Trump himself was not guilty of anything or under investigation.
00:13:31.000 Comey wouldn't do it.
00:13:32.000 The reason that Comey said he wouldn't do it is he was afraid that in the course of the bigger investigation, Trump's name would come out and then he would have to correct himself the same way he did with Hillary Clinton
00:13:40.000 Back in 2016, so better to say nothing right now than to come out and say Trump's not under investigation, then come out later and say Trump is under investigation.
00:13:48.000 Okay, that being the case, that means that Trump was not firing Comey because he wanted Comey to stop the investigation into Trump.
00:13:55.000 He was firing Comey because he was just mad that Comey wouldn't come out and say publicly what Comey had already told him privately, which is that Trump was not personally under investigation.
00:14:05.000 I theorized that all the way back on May 10th.
00:14:07.000 That is exactly correct.
00:14:08.000 That is exactly correct.
00:14:10.000 Okay, so again, is this Trump behaving well?
00:14:13.000 No, it's not Trump behaving well, okay?
00:14:16.000 But does it jive with the left's narrative that Trump was colluding with Russia and then fired Comey to cover it up?
00:14:23.000 No, that does not jive in any way.
00:14:24.000 There's no evidence of collusion.
00:14:26.000 That entire narrative is destroyed by James Comey.
00:14:29.000 Okay, finally, Comey turns to a phone call that took place on April 11th.
00:14:33.000 Here is what he says, quote,
00:14:35.000 Trump replied that the cloud was getting in the way of his ability to do his job.
00:14:39.000 He said perhaps he would have his people reach out to the acting Deputy Attorney General.
00:14:43.000 I said that was the way his request should be handled.
00:14:45.000 I said the White House should contact the leadership of the DOJ.
00:14:48.000 He said he would do that and added, because I have been very loyal to you, very loyal, we had that thing you know.
00:14:53.000 I did not ask him or reply what he meant by that thing.
00:14:56.000 I said only that the way to handle it was to have the White House counsel call the acting deputy attorney general.
00:15:01.000 Okay, again, the conversation about that thing sounds dirty.
00:15:04.000 It sounds like Trump is trying to get something out of Comey in exchange for something else, right?
00:15:08.000 That is the thing that they have.
00:15:09.000 Okay, and one of the speculations is that Trump had mentioned
00:15:12.000 Thank you for watching!
00:15:25.000 But again, there is no actual evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia, and once again, there is no evidence that Trump was trying to quash the investigation into Trump.
00:15:34.000 What Trump wanted out of this whole thing was something very simple.
00:15:37.000 He wanted Comey to come out publicly and say what he had said privately, which is that Trump was not personally under investigation.
00:15:42.000 That is the entirety of this whole thing.
00:15:44.000 Trump fired him because he wouldn't do it.
00:15:46.000 He fired him because he wouldn't do it.
00:15:48.000 Now, that is the issue with regard to Trump-Russia, and that's why the right today is chortling, and they're saying, okay, you guys have been making the case for half a year now.
00:15:56.000 About the Trump-Russia collusion, and you were saying that Trump is at fault for trying to fire Comey as some sort of giant cover-up or something.
00:16:02.000 Okay, you say all of that, but then there's no actual evidence of any of that.
00:16:06.000 So Comey just destroyed you.
00:16:08.000 Now here is what the left is saying.
00:16:09.000 What the left is saying is we know that Trump basically quasi-offered Comey a quid pro quo.
00:16:15.000 We put pressure on him.
00:16:16.000 He mentioned his job.
00:16:17.000 He's putting pressure on him to leave the Flynn investigation.
00:16:21.000 Alone, he was doing all of these things, and if Obama had done all this, he would be really, really ticked off.
00:16:27.000 They're not wrong about this, okay?
00:16:28.000 If Obama had done this, we would be really ticked off.
00:16:30.000 How do I know?
00:16:30.000 Because today, Comey, in his actual testimony, said that Loretta Lynch told James Comey that she didn't want the Hillary investigation referred to as an investigation, she wanted it referred to as a matter.
00:16:40.000 And Comey said that created the appearance of impropriety between Loretta Lynch and Hillary Clinton's campaign.
00:16:48.000 It certainly did, right?
00:16:48.000 All of us on the right were livid about the fact that Loretta Lynch met with Bill Clinton on the tarmac and they talked about the Hillary investigation.
00:16:55.000 We're all livid.
00:16:55.000 We said this creates impropriety.
00:16:57.000 It does create impropriety, just like it creates impropriety for President Trump to meet with the acting FBI director, James Comey, and tell him he wants a Flynn investigation dropped, or I hope the Flynn investigation will be dropped.
00:17:08.000 Now, is that obstruction of justice?
00:17:10.000 No, it's not technically obstruction of justice, because again, there was no actual threat to Comey that if you don't drop this, I'm gonna do X, and it was not an actual...
00:17:19.000 We're good to go.
00:17:37.000 Two ways to read that.
00:17:38.000 You know, again, it is not impossible to read it in the most innocuous way, but it is a little bit strange.
00:17:44.000 If you're a Democrat and you're watching this, you're saying, okay, Donald Trump is obviously doing dirty things.
00:17:50.000 If you are a Republican watching this, you're saying it's not so obvious that Trump is doing terrible obstruction of justice things, but he's acting inappropriately.
00:17:57.000 For President of the United States.
00:17:58.000 I want to talk about what actually got said during the hearing and how the media is going to shift the narrative from its original narrative in just a second.
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00:18:53.000 I don't know.
00:19:18.000 So that is what Comey released in his seven pages of testimony.
00:19:22.000 It explodes the Democrat narratives that Trump was pressuring Comey to drop the Trump-Russia investigation, and it explodes the Democrat narrative that there was something deeply nefarious going on with regard to Trump being under personal investigation.
00:19:36.000 Trump is not under personal investigation.
00:19:38.000 Comey came out, he said when he left today, he said that Trump was not under personal investigation.
00:19:45.000 Now, all of that said, here is some of what Comey had to say today.
00:19:49.000 So Comey came out, and he didn't read the seven-page statement that had already been entered into testimony.
00:19:53.000 So instead, he came out with this very short statement where he ripped Trump basically for firing him, and here's what he had to say.
00:19:58.000 This is clip 13.
00:20:01.000 The administration then chose to defame me and more importantly the FBI by saying that the organization was in disarray, that it was poorly led, that the workforce had lost confidence in its leader.
00:20:16.000 Those were lies, plain and simple.
00:20:19.000 Okay, so there he is saying that basically Trump is a liar and he lies about things all the time.
00:20:24.000 He's a big, big, big fat liar.
00:20:25.000 Okay, so I think objectively speaking, Trump fibs a lot, but this is really more about Comey's ego, right?
00:20:31.000 So this is him saying, well, he was mean to me.
00:20:33.000 He was mean to the FBI.
00:20:34.000 He says the FBI is in disarray and that's really terrible.
00:20:37.000 It's a lie about me.
00:20:38.000 I do my job.
00:20:39.000 The FBI does its job and that's really terrible.
00:20:40.000 This is going to be the headline the media gloms onto is that Trump is a liar.
00:20:44.000 And Comey reiterates that Trump is a liar.
00:20:46.000 In clip 14, again, this is all opinion type stuff, but the media, which is now trying to build Comey up as some sort of great truth teller again, they're going to leap on this to say that Trump is just a liar in total.
00:20:57.000 This is clip 14.
00:20:58.000 I want to go through a number of the meetings that you referenced in your testimony.
00:21:02.000 And let's start with the January 6th meeting in Trump Tower, where you went up with a series of officials to brief the President-elect on the Russia investigation.
00:21:13.000 My understanding is you remained afterwards to brief him on, again, quote, some personally sensitive aspects of the information you relayed.
00:21:22.000 Now, you said after that briefing, you felt compelled
00:21:26.000 to document that conversation that you actually started documenting it soon as you got into the car.
00:21:34.000 Now, you've had extensive experience at the Department of Justice and at the FBI.
00:21:40.000 You've worked under presidents of both parties.
00:21:43.000 What was it about that meeting that led you to determine that you needed to start putting down a written record?
00:21:52.000 A combination of things.
00:21:53.000 I think the circumstances, the subject matter and the person I was interacting with.
00:21:59.000 Circumstances first, I was alone with the President of the United States, or the President-Elect, soon to be President.
00:22:05.000 The subject matter, I was talking about matters that touch on the FBI's core responsibility and that relate to the President, President-Elect personally.
00:22:14.000 And then the nature of the person.
00:22:16.000 I was honestly concerned that he might lie about the nature of our meeting, and so I thought it really important to document.
00:22:21.000 That combination of things I'd never experienced before, but it led me to believe I've got to write it down, and I've got to write it down in a very detailed way.
00:22:28.000 Okay, so there's James Comey explaining that he thought that Trump's a big liar, so we have to keep all of the, uh, that we have to keep all of these notes, and that's his explanation.
00:22:37.000 So the media's jumping on the idea that Comey thought Trump was a liar.
00:22:40.000 Who cares whether Comey thought Trump was a liar?
00:22:42.000 Like, he kept these notes, and then Trump either lied or he didn't.
00:22:45.000 So, the media's jumping on conclusions without looking at the underlying evidence as usual.
00:22:50.000 I thought Marco Rubio actually asked one of the better questions of the hearing thus far.
00:22:54.000 He said, it's kind of amazing that all of this material has leaked about Trump,
00:22:58.000 We've learned more from the newspapers sometimes than we do from our open hearings, for sure.
00:23:13.000 Do you ever wonder why, of all the things in this investigation, the only thing that's never been leaked is the fact that the president was not personally under investigation, despite the fact that both Democrats and Republicans and the leadership of Congress knew that and have known that for weeks?
00:23:28.000 I don't know.
00:23:29.000 I find matters that are brief to the Gang of Eight are pretty tightly held, in my experience.
00:23:41.000 Is the right one.
00:23:42.000 It just demonstrates that when it comes to these leaks and it comes to the media, this is a motivated attempt to destroy President Trump.
00:23:46.000 Okay, I want to talk about how the left is going to pivot off of their original narrative in just a second, right?
00:23:51.000 Their original narrative, again, was that it was Trump-Russia collusion.
00:23:54.000 They did all this to save Hillary, of course.
00:23:56.000 That it was Trump-Russia collusion, and that's why Hillary lost the election, and that's why Trump attempted to fire James Comey, was all as a cover-up.
00:24:03.000 Comey totally destroys that entire narrative.
00:24:05.000 He explodes the entire narrative.
00:24:06.000 But he comes out and he says he thinks Trump is a liar and a bad guy.
00:24:09.000 Okay, whatever.
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