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Ep. 319 - Attempted Massacre on Congressman In DC - What Do We Know?


Summary

The Democrats have apparently discovered the fountain of youth. Rage. Speaking last week, Senator Bernie Sanders, a crazed, elderly loon, was recently spotted wandering around the country shouting about wealth and equality while closing on a second vacation home. Mayor Eric Garcetti of Los Angeles, speaking to Politico, said, If we only turn that anger inward, I fear we become the permanent party of opposition. Over the next couple months, we d better get our act together. The Democrats are late to the game. During the 2016 election cycle, Republicans expressed their anger routinely and richly. Trump himself cultivated that anger. As Ian Tunnell rightly wrote at National Review in 2015, Now, anger is nothing new in politics. But something new has happened to American politics in the last few years. Politicians have realized that the simplest path to power is to humor everyone s anger. If you take someone s anger away from them, you ve emotionally castrated them. More important, you run the risk of driving them into the arms of someone who will feed their anger, an anger that will now turn on you for the sin of having discounted that anger in the first place. This is deeply unhealthy, and it s why such pandering is endemic on a national level. It s why generic congressional support is so low, but support for local incumbents is so high, and why the faraway government, full of cronies and fools, simply doesn t get your message across to you. this is why your local congressman hears you and understands you, but your local Congressman does not. All of course. All which makes very toxic politics, and so doesn t listen to you, does not understand you, and doesn t understand you. And so they don t get the message that you need to be angry, do they understand you? And they simply don t care? and they simply coddle you, do not get your point of view? And they coddling you, they don't get it? And so on and so on, and they do not understand that you don t have a problem with your anger, they just don t understand your anger? And that you're not angry enough, do you want to be mad about it? and you don't want to get angry about it ? they just want you to get mad at you, right? They don t give you a chance to complain about it, they're not enough, they do they do you?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Democrats have apparently discovered the fountain of youth.
00:00:03.000 Rage.
00:00:03.000 Speaking last week, Senator Bernie Sanders, a crazed elderly loon, recently spotted wandering around the country shouting about wealth and equality while closing on a second vacation home, stated, quote, you should be angry.
00:00:13.000 Take your anger out on the right people.
00:00:15.000 Mayor Eric Garcetti of Los Angeles speaking to Politico explained, quote, if we only turn that anger inward, I fear we become the permanent party of opposition.
00:00:22.000 Over the next couple months, we'd better get our act together.
00:00:25.000 The Democrats are late to the game.
00:00:26.000 During the 2016 election cycle, Republicans expressed their anger routinely and richly.
00:00:30.000 Trump himself cultivated that anger.
00:00:32.000 As Ian Tunnell rightly wrote at National Review in 2015, quote,
00:00:42.000 Now, anger is nothing new in politics.
00:00:44.000 Anger has dominated political discourse since the days of Moses.
00:00:47.000 Ask him how he felt about a stiff-necked people seemingly ready to throw him overboard every few weeks.
00:00:52.000 And some anger is, of course, justified.
00:00:54.000 If you're angry at corruption in DC, you have every right to be.
00:00:57.000 If you're angry at a heedless Leviathan grasping at your wages, that anger is justified.
00:01:02.000 Even if you channel that emotion in the wrong direction, we can at least understand the anger.
00:01:06.000 But something new has happened to American politics in the last few years.
00:01:09.000 Politicians have realized that the simplest path to power is to humor everyone's anger.
00:01:14.000 If you take someone's anger away from them, you've emotionally castrated them.
00:01:17.000 More important, you run the risk of driving them into the arms of someone who will feed their anger, an anger that will now turn on you for the sin of having discounted that anger in the first place.
00:01:26.000 This is deeply unhealthy.
00:01:28.000 One of the great lies of psychology, dominant since the era of Freud, is that coddling emotions leads to more emotional fulfillment.
00:01:35.000 Actually, coddling emotions leads to emotional unhealthiness.
00:01:37.000 It even leads us to wallow in our emotions.
00:01:41.000 Anger feels good, and it feels even better when someone tells you you're not wrong to be angry in the first place.
00:01:46.000 If you crave emotional payoff, and if those around you are taught to cosset your emotions, you're likely to engage more and more often in emotionally overwrought behavior.
00:01:54.000 Bad psychologists indulge their clients' emotional states.
00:01:57.000 Good psychologists ask whether those emotional states are justified.
00:02:00.000 As social psychologist Jonathan Haidt, among others, states,
00:02:03.000 Cognitive behavioral therapy, a technique used to treat those with emotional disorders, is generally as effective as antidepressants for anxiety and depression.
00:02:11.000 Therapy consists of identifying illogical links in a chain of thought that lead to an emotionally hazardous place.
00:02:17.000 You might figure out, for example, that you're attributing motives to someone even though you have no evidence about his motives, or that you overgeneralize, or that you're looking only at the bad things in your life rather than at the good things.
00:02:27.000 Once you've identified your own faulty thinking, you can stop the emotional runaway train.
00:02:31.000 Politicians, however, are trained to do the opposite.
00:02:34.000 Politicians spend their lives seeking the favor of others.
00:02:36.000 That means they find it wildly beneficial to nurse the emotions and the grievances of constituents.
00:02:41.000 The customer is always right, of course.
00:02:43.000 It means that if a constituent is angry, the best option isn't to help break the chain of emotional volatility, it's to channel that volatility into beating back enemies.
00:02:51.000 If you wonder why generic congressional support is so low, but support for local incumbents is so high, this is why.
00:02:57.000 Your local congressman hears you and understands you, but the faraway government, full of cronies and fools, simply doesn't.
00:03:03.000 On a national level, such pandering has become endemic.
00:03:06.000 It's why Hillary Clinton presided over the intersectional Olympics in 2016.
00:03:09.000 In which voters must constantly be reassured that their anger at alleged victimhood isn't illegitimate and why Trump spends an inordinate amount of time talking about Rust Belt voters who must be reassured that their anger at the system and China and Mexico is worthwhile.
00:03:22.000 All of which makes very toxic politics.
00:03:24.000 The founders knew public passions were constantly at risk of demagoguery.
00:03:27.000 It's why they weren't Democrats.
00:03:28.000 They believed in a system that would check passion with passion.
00:03:31.000 And they believed in a system in which each politician would be forced to answer to so many different factions, he would be fully incapable of satisfying all of them.
00:03:39.000 In Federalist 10, Madison eloquently laid out the problem of demagoguery.
00:03:43.000 His answer?
00:03:43.000 Gridlock.
00:03:44.000 Federalism.
00:03:45.000 Various legislative entities.
00:03:46.000 Passions incapable of satisfaction at the governmental level.
00:03:49.000 Without such a system, Madison wrote,
00:03:51.000 The despotism of the majority would rule, quote, if the impulse and the opportunity be suffered to coincide, we well know that neither moral nor religious motives can be relied on as an adequate control.
00:04:01.000 Madison was not wrong to rely on the intricate framework of the American government as a bulwark against the perverse passions of the majority.
00:04:09.000 But he also relied on local interests to supersede national interests and diffusion of power to defeat virtually all interests.
00:04:15.000 The growth of the federal government has rendered all such notions obsolete.
00:04:19.000 On the one hand, local interests can now dictate national interests.
00:04:22.000 President Trump can cater to the anger of a factory worker by promising tariffs that affect everyone.
00:04:26.000 On the other hand, every local politician can now campaign nationally.
00:04:29.000 Eric Garcetti barely presides over the potholes in LA, but he's seen as the national face for his party.
00:04:34.000 The result?
00:04:35.000 A national pathology.
00:04:36.000 And the only cure?
00:04:38.000 Americans must get real.
00:04:39.000 And that means, unfortunately, politicians have to be brave.
00:04:42.000 They must tell voters when their anger is both misplaced and unearned.
00:04:45.000 They must be willing to stand with truth rather than with the power of sympathy.
00:04:48.000 If they don't, the anger that politicians have attempted to channel for their own ends will eventually burst loose in ways those politicians never anticipated.
00:04:55.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:04:56.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:05:01.000 Okay, we're gonna get to all of the latest with regard to this horrific shooting in Alexandria, Virginia today.
00:05:07.000 For those who don't know, there was a leftist, apparent leftist, psychopath who went and shot a bunch of members of Congress and their aides over at a baseball field in Alexandria, Virginia.
00:05:19.000 They were practicing for a congressional softball charity game.
00:05:22.000 It's the only nice thing in Washington, D.C., and it has to be ruined by a radical leftist who decided to murder people.
00:05:29.000 We'll talk about all of that, the fallout from that, what it means for free speech, and who gets to be blamed for all of this, and I want to be as clear on that as humanly possible.
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00:07:03.000 Okay, so.
00:07:05.000 Let's jump right into the news.
00:07:06.000 So obviously, you know what I have to say about political anger has some bearing on what just happened in Alexandria, Virginia.
00:07:13.000 So here is what we now know.
00:07:15.000 We know that the shooter, the alleged shooter, and I only say alleged for legal reasons, his name is James T. Hodgkinson.
00:07:20.000 He's identified by the Washington Post, 66 years old.
00:07:23.000 And here's what the Washington Post reports.
00:07:25.000 They say the shooter
00:07:26.000 At the GOP Congressional Baseball Practice this morning is James T. Hodgkinson of Belleville, Illinois.
00:07:31.000 According to law enforcement officials, Hodgkinson, 66, owns a home inspection business.
00:07:36.000 His home inspection license expired in November 2016 and was not renewed, according to state records.
00:07:41.000 He was charged in April 2006 with battery and aiding damage to a motor vehicle.
00:07:45.000 So he's got a history of some violence as well.
00:07:48.000 Here's some of the media coverage of the Congressional Baseball Practice shootings, clip 19.
00:07:53.000 So there were two bits of gunfire, and how long did they last?
00:07:56.000 Pop, pop, pop.
00:07:57.000 And it was returned, then another bunch.
00:07:59.000 It went on for a while.
00:08:01.000 I would say at least four to five minutes, starting and stopping.
00:08:06.000 So it could have been someone was trying to catch the guy that was shooting at him, or he was beginning to take out everybody.
00:08:12.000 My thinking was in the YMCA.
00:08:14.000 You said you ran right into the house.
00:08:15.000 You felt concerned.
00:08:16.000 Kind of elaborate on what was going through your mind.
00:08:18.000 I'm sure your heart was racing.
00:08:19.000 Well, if you're in your yard mowing the lawn and there's shots up the street, you don't want to get shot just to mow your lawn.
00:08:24.000 Okay, this is just horrifying.
00:08:25.000 They say 50 to 60 shots were fired.
00:08:28.000 Senator Rand Paul was there.
00:08:30.000 He said if the police had not been there, there would have definitely been a massacre.
00:08:33.000 Apparently Capitol Police were there because Steve Scalise, who was shot, he's the House Majority Whip,
00:08:37.000 He had brought some security with him and the Capitol Police ended up shooting the guy and apparently killing him.
00:08:44.000 This piece of crap, James Hodgkinson, is indeed dead.
00:08:47.000 Here's Rand Paul talking about what it would have been.
00:08:59.000 He said this morning in an interview of the shooter, he was going after elected officials.
00:09:04.000 It sure as heck wasn't an accident.
00:09:07.000 And Rand Paul, the Kentucky senator who was also there, said it would have been warming up in a batting cage during this practice.
00:09:13.000 He was just heaping praise on the Capitol Police, who he says happened to be there because the majority whip, Steve Scalise, was there.
00:09:21.000 He said had they not been there, it would have been a massacre.
00:09:25.000 This morning, Rand Paul and others are praising the police,
00:09:29.000 Specifically for their bravery on this Mo Brooks as a congressman on the scene He also described the shooting and then there's another GOP representative Who said that before the shooting this this guy?
00:09:39.000 Hodgkinson walked up to him and asked him if Democrats or Republicans were playing on the field So yes, there was political motivation.
00:09:45.000 This would fall under the category of political terrorism here is representative describing This this murderer come or attempted murder because I don't think anyone has died yet except for the shooter
00:09:55.000 Asking whether it was Republicans or Democrats practicing on the field.
00:10:00.000 What I'd like to talk to you is give you an overview of what took place.
00:10:04.000 We received a call of an active shooter.
00:10:06.000 Shots fired at zero seven, zero nine.
00:10:09.000 Nine minutes after seven this morning.
00:10:13.000 Here at the park on Monroe, Simpson Park.
00:10:16.000 At that time, there was a practice team event with a baseball team of folks that were representing some folks on the hill.
00:10:28.000 We were there within three minutes.
00:10:30.000 We do know that officers from the Office of Capitol Police, as well as three officers... Okay, so terrific response by Capitol Police.
00:10:38.000 They get there within three to five minutes.
00:10:40.000 Governor Terry McAuliffe, who is the governor of Virginia, he of course came out immediately with the Democratic talking points whenever there's a situation like this.
00:10:47.000 The Democratic talking point is it must be the guns.
00:10:49.000 Now,
00:10:49.000 According to Rand Paul, if there's nobody there with a gun, then this guy just mows everybody down and he can do it at his leisure.
00:10:54.000 I mean, he's literally walking through a crowded area, there are kids there, and he's just killing people.
00:10:59.000 Governor Terry McAuliffe, however, he says this is really just the result of too many guns, Clip 23.
00:11:03.000 Do you think anything more needs to do to protect politicians?
00:11:07.000 Well, let me say this.
00:11:08.000 I think we need to do more to protect all of our citizens.
00:11:11.000 I have long advocated, this is not what today is about, but there are too many guns on the street.
00:11:17.000 We lose 93 million Americans a day to gun violence.
00:11:22.000 I mean, I've long talked about this.
00:11:23.000 Background check.
00:11:24.000 He's an insane person.
00:11:25.000 We don't lose 93 million Americans a day.
00:11:28.000 And again, it was a good guy with a gun who stopped the bad guy with a gun, not gun control laws.
00:11:31.000 There are background checks.
00:11:32.000 This guy was from Illinois where there's heavy gun control.
00:11:36.000 And we don't know where he got the gun.
00:11:37.000 We don't know if he went through a background check.
00:11:39.000 He apparently, as I say,
00:11:40.000 We're good to go.
00:12:08.000 It's key image is a picture of Bernie Sanders in the Uncle Sam outfit.
00:12:11.000 He's got pages up that he's been tweeting, that he's been putting out on his Facebook page, talking about how corporations write bills and Congress is bribed until it becomes a law.
00:12:21.000 Here's something that he just said, quote, I want to say, this was two days ago, I want to say, Mr. President, for being an a-hole, you are truly the biggest a-hole we have ever had in the Oval Office.
00:12:31.000 Same day, make America great again, resign.
00:12:33.000 Then he tweets, puts out on Facebook a graphic that says, all in all, it's just another bleep in the wall picture of Trump with his hand against
00:12:40.000 The Western Wall says, same day, Trump is guilty and should go to prison for treason.
00:12:44.000 He has, on June 11th, please read and pass on.
00:12:47.000 And there's a quote from Alternet, stop fighting over who created the world and fight against the people who are destroying it.
00:12:53.000 In March, he put out on his Facebook page, Trump is a traitor.
00:12:57.000 Trump has destroyed our democracy.
00:12:58.000 It's time to destroy Trump and company.
00:13:01.000 This is leading to the same conversation that we always have in the country when a domestic, politically motivated terrorist decides to go on a rampage.
00:13:08.000 And we've seen this already.
00:13:09.000 In Portland, the guy who was responsible for murdering a couple of people with a knife was a Bernie Sanders supporter.
00:13:15.000 Democrats have always tried to claim that Republicans are responsible whenever there is a violent crime.
00:13:20.000 They tried to claim that Jared Loftner, who is legitimately an insane person, was responsible for killing Gabby Giffords because of Sarah Palin for some odd reason.
00:13:28.000 They tried to claim the Oklahoma City bombing was because of talk radio.
00:13:31.000 Going all the way back to the 1960s, JFK and his administration, after his death, tried to claim that it was the toxic political rhetoric and the climate against JFK that led to his assassination, not a communist stooge who shot JFK because he was a communist.
00:13:44.000 Again, there's always this conversation that happens.
00:13:47.000 And I think that there are several points that need to be made here.
00:13:51.000 One, I am not going to blame Bernie Sanders for the attempted murder of these congresspeople.
00:13:56.000 I'm not.
00:13:57.000 He uses inflammatory rhetoric.
00:13:59.000 Terry McAuliffe himself uses inflammatory rhetoric.
00:14:01.000 Here's an example.
00:14:02.000 Yesterday, there's McAuliffe going out there about gun control.
00:14:04.000 Clip one, he was talking about how there are treasonous Americans, presumably inside the Trump administration, coordinating with Russia to steal the election.
00:14:11.000 Do you think that there are Americans who committed treason?
00:14:13.000 I think, as we get into this,
00:14:15.000 It seems to me that Russia was actively involved in destabilizing our democracy.
00:14:19.000 But were there American people helping?
00:14:21.000 Somebody, I believe, had to give them a roadmap.
00:14:23.000 Somewhere in this, somebody was directing the Russians on whose names to use, what impact a certain people sending a memo would have on the American electorate.
00:14:33.000 I mean, they just didn't sit over in some cubicle over there somewhere in Moscow and figure this out.
00:14:39.000 Okay, so there he is basically humoring the idea that somebody has committed treason.
00:14:43.000 The penalty for treason under the Constitution of the United States is death.
00:14:47.000 Is that because Terry McAuliffe actually wants some nutcase to go and shoot up a bunch of people?
00:14:51.000 No, I don't think so.
00:14:52.000 This is heated political rhetoric.
00:14:53.000 It's pretty normal.
00:14:54.000 So, I want to point out a couple... So let's start with this.
00:14:58.000 Just because Bernie Sanders says inflammatory things does not make him responsible.
00:15:01.000 for what this guy did any more than the fact that Donald Trump says inflammatory things would make him responsible if somebody had gone and done this to Democrats.
00:15:07.000 Okay?
00:15:08.000 That's not how political rhetoric works in the country.
00:15:10.000 I judge whether political rhetoric is directly responsible for violence if the political rhetoric directly tells people to commit acts of violence.
00:15:19.000 That's when political rhetoric is responsible for violence.
00:15:21.000 Otherwise, we're going to get into very dicey territory where we decide to shut down free speech because it could promote violence.
00:15:27.000 That's the direction everybody likes to move.
00:15:29.000 Barack Obama did a whole campaign-style rally after the Gabby Giffords shooting, in which he blamed toxic political rhetoric from the right, and he blamed lack of gun control, and then he suggested that basically the right and its toxicity was responsible in some way for all of this.
00:15:42.000 I'm not going to do that because I thought it was immoral when Obama did it, and I think it's immoral when anybody does it.
00:15:46.000 The way that you can connect rhetoric and ideology with actual violence is if that rhetoric and ideology is actually calling for violence.
00:15:52.000 So, for example, radical Islamic jihadism actually calls for violence.
00:15:56.000 Governing Sharia law is a call for actual violence against human beings.
00:16:00.000 And one of the ways that you can judge whether the rhetoric is actually calling for violence is whether this is a rare exception to a general rule or whether it is a widespread belief, a wide-held belief, and a lot of people are participating in it.
00:16:12.000 So terrorism is a widespread thing.
00:16:14.000 It's happening all over the world.
00:16:15.000 There are regimes that are participating in it.
00:16:16.000 There are regimes that are funding it.
00:16:18.000 And there are large swaths of the population in the radical Muslim world and in the just fundamentalist Muslim world
00:16:23.000 that are supportive of the general beliefs of some of the terrorists, including the use of violence.
00:16:27.000 Okay, that is not the case here.
00:16:28.000 I'm not seeing the upsurge from the left saying, I'm so glad that this guy went out and shot a bunch of a bunch of Republican Congress people.
00:16:36.000 So I'm not going to equate American leftists with jihadists.
00:16:38.000 And just because the left does this to the right doesn't mean it's okay for us to do it.
00:16:41.000 Just because the Southern Poverty Law Center tries to connect every act by a loon who once listened to Rush Limbaugh,
00:16:49.000 with Rush Limbaugh's views does not mean that I'm going to participate in the same thing because I think it's disgusting when they do it, so it'd be equally disgusting when we do it.
00:16:56.000 And I want to talk about, though, I do want to talk about when rhetoric is responsible for creating a toxic climate and what that actually means generally.
00:17:05.000 So I've talked about when rhetoric is directly responsible for violence, and I'll talk about, in a second, when it's sort of indirectly responsible for creating a climate that creates more of these sort of isolated events.
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00:18:23.000 About the idea that left rhetoric, you know, Terry McAuliffe's rhetoric, Bernie Sanders' rhetoric, I'm not going to blame that rhetoric for this guy going out and doing this stuff.
00:18:31.000 And by the way, I'm not going to blame even Kathy Griffin's rhetoric.
00:18:34.000 I'm not going to say that Kathy Griffin is responsible for this guy going out and shooting Congress people.
00:18:38.000 Because I don't think Kathy Griffin told this guy to go out and shoot Congress people or said, I think it's okay if you go out and shoot Congress people.
00:18:43.000 I think she's an idiot.
00:18:44.000 I think she's a fool.
00:18:45.000 If the Secret Service actually thought that she was advocating assassination, they would have arrested her.
00:18:50.000 It is not a crime to say gauche things.
00:18:52.000 A lot of people today on the right are going to do the Shakespeare in the Park routine where Julius Caesar is played by Trump and assassinated.
00:18:58.000 That this is what led to the events of today.
00:19:01.000 I'm not going to do that because I think it's gross when the left does that.
00:19:04.000 Yeah, I think that there can be a badly interpreted play.
00:19:07.000 I think that there can be a play that I would think crosses some lines without saying that it is directly responsible for the violence.
00:19:13.000 Now, it is true that as rhetoric and violent rhetoric escalates on both sides of the political aisle, and it's been ignored on the left by the media, the right is pointing it out with regard to Trump, and it is certainly true.
00:19:23.000 The Kathy Griffin stuff.
00:19:25.000 The Shakespeare in the Park stuff.
00:19:26.000 A toxic political climate is not going to make rational people go out and shoot Congress people, but it is going to have an outsized impact on what we in the legal field call somebody with an eggshell skull.
00:19:37.000 Right?
00:19:37.000 The idea that somebody is right on the verge, and now the climate has become so toxic that he's going to go nuts and start shooting people.
00:19:45.000 The toxic political climate is indirectly responsible for this.
00:19:47.000 So what does that suggest?
00:19:48.000 It suggests everybody should rapture this stuff down a little bit.
00:19:50.000 We keep hearing the war rhetoric from the left.
00:19:53.000 We keep hearing the treason, the resist rhetoric from the left.
00:19:55.000 We keep hearing the war rhetoric from the right.
00:19:57.000 And the response has been from people on both sides of the aisle to keep upping the ante.
00:20:01.000 Well, if they use a tactic, why can't we use a tactic?
00:20:03.000 If they use violent rhetoric, why can't we use violent rhetoric?
00:20:06.000 If the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center, blames the right every time something bad happens, why can't we do that too?
00:20:12.000 Why can't we just keep making the rhetoric
00:20:13.000 Why can't we just keep making everything more and more and more toxic?
00:20:16.000 Okay, listen.
00:20:17.000 I am not shy when it comes to using rhetoric.
00:20:19.000 If you've ever seen the show before, if you've ever seen any of my videos, I'm not shy about speaking what I believe to be the truth, and I'm not even shy about using harsh language.
00:20:27.000 But when it comes to advocacy of political violence, or giving the go-ahead to anything that remotely hints at political violence, that's where we all need to take a step back.
00:20:34.000 Not because it's going to lead to widespread battles in the streets, although we have seen some of that with Antifa, which actually is a violent terrorist group.
00:20:41.000 Not only have we, but it's going to have an impact if the entire culture goes toxic.
00:20:46.000 If the entire culture just becomes a war of all against all, then that doesn't mean it's going to turn into open warfare in the streets, but it does mean that more nutty people who are right on the brink are going to be pushed over the line into doing something
00:20:57.000 Truly awful and truly violent.
00:20:59.000 So, here's my recommendation.
00:21:01.000 Everybody should take it down a notch.
00:21:04.000 Try to decide whether your anger is justified before you vent your anger.
00:21:07.000 Try to decide whether something is worth tweeting before you tweet it.
00:21:10.000 Try to decide whether that Facebook post talking about how you wish Trump would just die already is worth doing if you're on the left.
00:21:16.000 And if you're on the right, try not to respond by saying, I hope you die.
00:21:19.000 Right?
00:21:19.000 Let's all just take it down a notch because
00:21:22.000 I don't think that either you or the guy you're posting with is gonna go and shoot somebody, but I think that somebody who's reading might be outside, might be impacted in an outsized fashion.
00:21:29.000 Now, I don't make decisions, and I don't think anybody needs to make decisions about their personal behavior based on the nutcase who could go nuts.
00:21:36.000 But, I also think it's kind of immoral to talk in these ways as a general rule, so I think that we should all take a step back.
00:21:42.000 In that in that sort of in that sort of notion.
00:21:44.000 And again, I'm not saying we shouldn't use harsh language.
00:21:46.000 I mean, for goodness sake, I've signed books punched back twice as hard using the Obama rhetoric with regard to political battles.
00:21:53.000 But that is not the same thing as openly advocating for violence against people on the other side of the aisle.
00:21:59.000 Obviously, meaning things figuratively is not a good thing.
00:22:01.000 And I think that people including me should maybe take a step back on all of this.
00:22:07.000 In other words, instead of blaming Bernie Sanders, instead of blaming Donald Trump for people who are bad doing bad things, I think we should recognize it's a free country, people should say what they want to say, but people should also take care that maybe it's not a great thing if we decide to inject the toxicity of violence into our rhetoric at every available turn, and it's been just upped dramatically in recent years.
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