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Ep. 348 - Has The Conservative Movement Hit Its Limit?


Summary

Imran Awan was an aide to 25 members of the House Democratic Caucus. Over the past decade, Awan and his family members were paid some $4 million by House Democrats. While other House members fired Awan months ago, former DNC head Debbie Wasserman Schultz decided to keep him on payroll until the day of his arrest, and attempted to stop the cops from looking at her smashed laptop which Awan apparently had. Naturally, top Democrats are claiming that Awan may have been arrested due to, you guessed it, Islamophobia. All of which should raise some serious questions: 1. Why was Awan being paid so much money for so long? 2. What information did Awan transfer? 3. Why aren t the mainstream media covering this story? 4. What is Wasserman Schultz trying to hide? 5. Is she concerned that maybe Awan might be in some way connected to DNC leaks that damaged Democrats, or that will do so in the future? This is a major, major story, and it's certainly weird that it's being buried by mainstream media outlets, including the New York Times, ABC News, NBC News, and the Daily Caller. Ben Shapiro's show on The Ben Shapiro Show on the conservative mind on The Weekly Standard and The FiveThirtyEight. Subscribe to his new show, "The Ben Shapiro File," wherever you get your news and information, wherever he gets his news. The most authentic conservative voice in the world. He's not going to be stopping you from listening to the show, is he? And he's going to make you better than you'll ever be able to be that again, no matter where he is or isn't listening to it, either on the internet or anywhere else, right or not even knows where it s even is or he s going to go it s better than that s gonna be it s a good thing, is that s saying it s good, is a fact, right he s gonna say it s gonna help you s a real thing, or he's gonna be that s a girl, is going to say it, right s to be it, or it s not, right is a girl s right sis is a real sis, right cuz he s s to say that s not gonna be a real girl s s s or a real ceeeeeeeeeeeedeedeedeeeeeedeedeeeeedeee he s really that s sotaeee or a s=c he s or n c he s not?


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00:00:00.000 Meet Imran Awan.
00:00:01.000 Awan was an aide to 25 members of the House Democratic Caucus.
00:00:04.000 Over the past decade, Awan and his family members were paid some $4 million by House Democrats.
00:00:09.000 He was arrested on charges of bank fraud yesterday while attempting to flee the country.
00:00:13.000 He was headed to Pakistan, where he had reportedly wired nearly $300,000 to himself.
00:00:18.000 Smashed hard drives were reportedly found at his home.
00:00:20.000 According to Politico, Awan and his wife had been investigated for stealing equipment from some House members.
00:00:25.000 There are suspicions that Awan may have put information from that equipment onto the cloud.
00:00:29.000 While other House members fired Awan months ago, former DNC head Debbie Wasserman Schultz decided to keep him on payroll until the day of his arrest and attempted to stop the cops from looking at her smashed laptop, which Awan apparently had.
00:00:41.000 Naturally, top Democrats are claiming that Awan may have been arrested due to, you guessed it, Islamophobia.
00:00:46.000 All of which should raise some serious questions.
00:00:47.000 Question number one, why was Awan being paid so much money for so long?
00:00:51.000 According to the Daily Caller, Awan wasn't even doing a good job.
00:00:54.000 In fact, he and his team weren't on mandatory phone calls.
00:00:56.000 They write, fellow IT staffers the DCNF interviewed said the Awans were often absent from weekly meetings and email exchanges.
00:01:04.000 One of the fellow staffers said some of the computers the Awans managed were being used to transfer data to an off-site server.
00:01:09.000 Second question,
00:01:10.000 What information did Awan transfer?
00:01:13.000 The Daily Caller, which has been all over this story, reports that Awan had, quote, access to all emails and files of dozens of members of Congress, as well as the password to the iPad that Debbie Wasserman Schultz used for DNC business before she resigned as a TED in July 2016.
00:01:26.000 Question number three, what is Wasserman Schultz trying to hide?
00:01:29.000 Not only did Wasserman Schultz keep paying Awan until yesterday,
00:01:33.000 She reportedly threatened the chief of the U.S.
00:01:35.000 Capitol Police with consequences for holding equipment that she says belongs to her.
00:01:39.000 Again, here's The Daily Caller, quote,
00:01:59.000 Fourth question and final question.
00:02:01.000 Why aren't the media reporting this story?
00:02:03.000 Thus far, only political among the mainstream media news outlets has covered the Awan story.
00:02:07.000 Nothing from ABC News, nothing from NBCNews.com, nothing from CNN, nothing from the New York Times.
00:02:13.000 That is pretty stunning, considering the potential scope of the story.
00:02:16.000 One suspicion.
00:02:17.000 Are mainstream outlets concerned that maybe Awan might be in some way connected to DNC leaks that damaged Democrats or that will do so in the future?
00:02:24.000 This is a major, major story.
00:02:27.000 We're just beginning to learn the ramifications.
00:02:29.000 And it's certainly weird, at the very least, that it's being buried by mainstream media outlets.
00:02:33.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:02:33.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:02:41.000 So that is the story that's on the top of the conservative mind.
00:02:44.000 That is not the story that's on the top of the national mind.
00:02:46.000 We'll get to President Trump's announcement that transgenders will now be banned from the military.
00:02:50.000 We'll also get to John McCain's big speech on the floor of the Senate yesterday.
00:02:54.000 We'll get to the latest on Trumpcare, all of it.
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00:04:39.000 Okay, so that Democratic story about the IT staffer who was caught leaving the country after having wired a bunch of money to Pakistan, that's not making the rounds anywhere in the mainstream media.
00:04:48.000 And there are suspicions that perhaps that's because
00:04:50.000 This was one of the sources for WikiLeaks, right?
00:04:52.000 This is unsubstantiated.
00:04:53.000 So this is the speculation that maybe this guy was actually taking all of that information and funneling it to WikiLeaks, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz doesn't want to let that cat out of the bag, because if the Democrats were to find out that Russia didn't have to do with this, then it completely implodes their entire narrative.
00:05:06.000 That, again, is total speculation.
00:05:08.000 I don't tend to believe it.
00:05:08.000 This guy looks more like a scamster who is
00:05:11.000 Maybe blackmailing somebody like Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
00:05:13.000 I mean, he was, again, getting untold sums of money.
00:05:16.000 Wasserman Schultz had him hired until the last five minutes.
00:05:18.000 I doubt that he has anything to do with WikiLeaks, and we've had no indications that he did.
00:05:22.000 So I wouldn't put that conspiracy theory sort of on the back burner until there's at least a shred of evidence for any of that.
00:05:28.000 But it is highly weird that the media are ignoring it, and it is even more weird that Debbie Wasserman Schultz is trying to kill an investigation into a guy who apparently stole and smashed her laptop.
00:05:36.000 So that's pretty weird stuff.
00:05:38.000 I mean, that's just weird stuff and we ought to keep an eye on it.
00:05:40.000 Okay, in other news, President Trump has been on a rampage against Jeff Sessions.
00:05:45.000 So this morning, President Trump, seeking to distract from the Jeff Sessions stuff, and I think it's pretty clear that's what he was trying to do, he tweets out that he wants to end the policy that the Obama administration put into place in June of last year that would allow transgenders to serve openly in the military.
00:05:58.000 It was a bad policy because it made the entire army and the entire military
00:06:03.000 Change its policies to basically fit the needs of a very small contingent of people who unfortunately suffer from severe mental illness.
00:06:10.000 Suddenly you have women who are expected to shower with men who say they are women.
00:06:13.000 The military is expected to cover the cost of transgender surgery and hormone replacements and all the rest of it.
00:06:19.000 You know, that's something that has nothing to do with military readiness and unlike race, which has no impact on military readiness and ability to serve,
00:06:25.000 Mental illness has always been a 4F issue.
00:06:29.000 You don't have a right to serve in the army.
00:06:30.000 No one has the right to serve in the army.
00:06:31.000 And listen, this is not a rip on the patriotic transgender people who want to serve in the army.
00:06:36.000 I mean, that's an amazing thing, and good for them.
00:06:38.000 They're making a sacrifice that I was not willing to make, so I have nothing but praise for them.
00:06:41.000 But that does not mean that the army, that the military, has a responsibility to take in people who it thinks are going to harm unit cohesion, destroy the ability of people to get along in small areas under lots of pressure, and the ability of the military to actually take a look
00:06:55.000 We're good to go.
00:07:17.000 level that the military would expect you to.
00:07:19.000 It creates all sorts of issues.
00:07:20.000 It also creates standards issues.
00:07:21.000 Let's say that you're a guy who's trying out for the military, but you're transgender now.
00:07:24.000 So are you expected to fulfill the female requirements or the male requirements?
00:07:27.000 Because there are two different requirements for women who are trying out for the military versus men.
00:07:31.000 It's not the same standard.
00:07:32.000 This is always the question about women serving in combat positions.
00:07:35.000 Do they have to fulfill the same rigorous physical standards as a man, right?
00:07:38.000 If you want a woman to be a Navy SEAL, are you going to have a lowered standard for her to become a Navy SEAL?
00:07:42.000 How about a man who says he's a woman?
00:07:43.000 Now can he get the female standard
00:07:45.000 So that's an issue.
00:07:46.000 People who have served on the front lines, I have yet to meet a soldier who serves on the front lines who thinks that unit cohesion will not be harmed by the inclusion of transgender soldiers on the front lines, in battle areas, in combat areas.
00:07:59.000 So, in any case, President Trump is right on the policy, but how he rolled it out, I think, is really not appropriate.
00:08:04.000 So he goes on Twitter, and as a... I think this is all a distraction from Sessions, because within five minutes he's tweeting about Sessions again.
00:08:11.000 He said,
00:08:29.000 So here is my problem with how President Trump did this.
00:08:32.000 I think he made the right call here, and for this he deserves praise.
00:08:35.000 It looks like a desperation move to distract attention from the session stuff.
00:08:39.000 That's what it looks like.
00:08:40.000 And the reason I say this is because this was not a well-timed, well-coordinated rollout of an organized policy.
00:08:46.000 As I said this morning, General Mattis at the Department of Defense should have been the leader on this.
00:08:50.000 He's in the middle, like a month ago, he announced that there was going to be a pause on the recruitment of transgender troops, and he was going to do a six-month study on how it was going, the embedding of transgender troops in the military.
00:09:00.000 And so we were going to have a full study, he was going to make a full case for why transgenderism in the military is not a good idea for morale and unit cohesion and all the issues that really matter on the battlefield.
00:09:11.000 General Mattis is the guy who should be in charge of this effort, and Trump should have used him, right?
00:09:14.000 I mean, because the fact is that if General Mattis comes to Trump's conclusion, then he is the best advocate for that.
00:09:19.000 It's very difficult for the left to say that General Mattis doesn't take seriously military readiness.
00:09:23.000 It's a lot easier for them to point to Trump and say, well, you draft dodged, and all these people are braver than you are, so what are you doing saying they can't serve in the military?
00:09:30.000 Just from a political point of view, it doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense for Trump to just tweet this out.
00:09:34.000 It's also sort of disrespectful to the transgender individuals currently serving in the military to just tweet out the policy with no supporting details, no explanation of where this is going.
00:09:44.000 Right now, the Department of Defense website still has the old Obama policy on it with regard to transgender individuals, so I'm glad the policy is apparently changing, but the Pentagon seems a little bit bewildered by this.
00:09:54.000 It's not that Trump never talked to Mattis about it, apparently he has,
00:09:57.000 But it looks like the Pentagon was taken by surprise by the process.
00:09:59.000 Like, you don't tweet out major policy decisions like this and then just expect everybody to fall in line.
00:10:04.000 Also, the timing really could not be much worse because it looks like what Trump is doing is picking on transgender individuals in order to distract from the session stuff.
00:10:12.000 At least that's how the left is going to play it.
00:10:14.000 And the timing is even worse than that.
00:10:16.000 On this date, this date in 1948, was the date when President Harry Truman integrated the military racially.
00:10:23.000 So, if you are trying to draw the perspective that the military should not be used for social experimentation, I would really prefer, from a PR standpoint, that you not pick the day that Harry Truman integrated the military, because obviously the left argument is going to be that integration of the military racially is the same as integrating the military in terms of transgenders.
00:10:43.000 It's just, the way this was rolled out was once again, 987,000 degree wizard, underwater, upside down, mahjong, Hungry Hungry Hippos wizard style.
00:10:53.000 I mean, it doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense the way this is rolled out, except that it's a big distraction.
00:10:58.000 It's not distracting people though, because it's so obvious.
00:11:00.000 Because within literally 40 minutes of Trump tweeting out this major shift in American military policy, he's back to tweeting about Jeff Sessions.
00:11:08.000 And this was the big story of the day, it continues to be the big story of the day.
00:11:12.000 He tweeted this morning, quote,
00:11:27.000 Mr. President, you are the president.
00:11:30.000 You have the capacity to fire Senator Sessions, or Attorney General Sessions, and now you are in the position of basically whining about something you have power over.
00:11:37.000 He did it again today, by the way, on Iran policy.
00:11:39.000 There was an interview at the Wall Street Journal where he said, if it were up to me, I would have gotten out of the Iran deal 180 days ago.
00:11:46.000 It is up to you.
00:11:49.000 You can stop whining on Twitter now.
00:11:50.000 If you want to do something about it, do something about it.
00:11:52.000 And the problem is that Trump has sort of put his credibility on the line here.
00:11:55.000 There's a good case to be made that when a president makes a commitment like this, when a president goes after his own AG, he's got to follow through for credibility reasons.
00:12:02.000 If you are a politician in the Senate and Trump threatens you right now, are you going to take that threat seriously?
00:12:08.000 It's hard to take the threat seriously when he's out there fulminating over Jeff Sessions but not actually doing anything about it.
00:12:13.000 If you are a foreign adversary and you see President Trump...
00:12:16.000 We're good to go.
00:12:38.000 The reason the Special Counsel was appointed is because President Trump fired James Comey without any rhyme or reason, except for the Russia stuff, which he then went on national television and talked about, and in the process tried to hide behind a letter written by Sessions' deputy, right?
00:12:51.000 Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General.
00:12:53.000 That forced Rosenstein to recuse himself.
00:12:56.000 And that's how you get the Special Counsel.
00:12:58.000 Not because Sessions recused himself.
00:12:59.000 Rosenstein was still in place.
00:13:01.000 But Trump got rid of Rosenstein, basically, by botching it himself.
00:13:05.000 So, again, using Sessions as his sort of whipping boy makes very little sense right here.
00:13:11.000 And again, if you want Trump to have a successful presidency, he needs to rein it in.
00:13:15.000 He really, truly needs to rein it in.
00:13:17.000 So, yesterday, Trump is speaking about this on the campaign trail.
00:13:21.000 And you can see
00:13:38.000 Fulminating about the media?
00:13:40.000 Are they so in love with the sort of red meat that he throws to his base every so often that they are willing to overlook the facts that he's not really getting a lot of policy done?
00:13:47.000 What does he have to do in order to alienate them?
00:13:49.000 And it seems that there are a lot of Trump fans who are alienated by the Sessions thing, which I think is encouraging because their standard may not be my standard in terms of what they think Trump is doing wrong, but there is something that Trump could do that can alienate some of them.
00:14:00.000 So Trump leads off last night by saying,
00:14:03.000 Aside from Lincoln, he can be the most presidential president ever.
00:14:05.000 He said this during the campaign as well.
00:14:06.000 It's an absurd statement.
00:14:07.000 Here he is saying it yesterday.
00:14:10.000 With the exception of the late, great Abraham Lincoln, I can be more presidential than any president that's ever held this office.
00:14:21.000 That I can tell you.
00:14:24.000 It's real easy.
00:14:25.000 Okay, it's real easy except he's not doing it, and he's spending his days online watching TV like my grandmother, and then tweeting things out not like my grandmother.
00:14:34.000 It's just not good policy.
00:14:35.000 He came out yesterday, and again, he continued to express anger with Sessions.
00:14:38.000 He said he's disappointed in the AG.
00:14:40.000 I am disappointed in the Attorney General.
00:14:45.000 He should not have recused himself.
00:14:48.000 Almost immediately after he took office, and if he was going to recuse himself, he should have told me prior to taking office, and I would have quite simply picked somebody else.
00:14:59.000 So I think that's a bad thing, not for the president, but for the presidency.
00:15:04.000 I think it's unfair to the presidency, and that's the way I feel.
00:15:09.000 Again, it's not unfair to the president for the AG to recuse himself in a situation where it is politically appropriate for him to recuse himself.
00:15:15.000 And again, Sessions has nothing to do with the appointment of the special counsel.
00:15:18.000 Right now, it's pretty clear that Trump wants to pressure Sessions into quitting.
00:15:22.000 So you can claim he didn't fire Sessions, but everybody knows that he wants Sessions gone at this point.
00:15:26.000 So I want to talk a little bit more about this and the reaction from the right and whether Trump is susceptible
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00:16:37.000 What you're seeing from the Trump administration is that the people who are loyalists to Trump, not the people who are policy focused, but the loyalists to Trump, the people whose job it is to make Trump look good, they keep saying Sessions has to go.
00:16:46.000 So, Sarah Huckabee Sanders yesterday, she says, I don't think that Trump's issues with Sessions are just going to dissipate.
00:16:51.000 She doesn't think that this is going to be glossed over and made better in any real way.
00:16:56.000 He's continuing to move forward and focus on other things, but that frustration certainly hasn't gone away.
00:17:02.000 And, you know, I don't think it will.
00:17:05.000 Okay, and you're starting to see some people, even on Trump's right, you know, people who have been longtime fans of Trump, begin to lose faith with him on the Sessions thing.
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00:18:07.000 So I've said for a long time that the litmus test, there has to be some sort of litmus test for Trump.
00:18:11.000 It's one of the reasons that I've respected, for example, Ann Coulter's take on Trump more than I've respected Breitbart News' take on Trump as a general matter.
00:18:19.000 Because Ann actually has a standard.
00:18:20.000 It may not be my standard again, but if Trump violates that standard, she's willing to say so.
00:18:24.000 So Ann wants her wall.
00:18:25.000 And if she doesn't get her wall, she's going to tweet about it, right?
00:18:27.000 She's going to say, I want my wall.
00:18:29.000 And good for her.
00:18:30.000 Good for her.
00:18:31.000 If you elected Trump because you wanted something and he's not giving it to you, then you should say something about it.
00:18:35.000 Well, finally, it seems with Sessions, there are a lot of people who are on the Trumpian right, who are beginning to lose a little bit of faith in Trump.
00:18:42.000 That includes people like Brit Hume.
00:18:44.000 So Brit Hume yesterday, he came out, he said, listen, Trump seems to have this bizarre idea of what the AG is.
00:18:48.000 What the AG is is definitely not a goalie.
00:18:53.000 I wonder if this is a message that that agenda is no longer operative.
00:18:57.000 I don't think so.
00:18:59.000 I think the President has a peculiar concept of what the Attorney General's job is.
00:19:04.000 He seems to think the Attorney General is some kind of goalie for him to protect him from whatever may come his way from forces that he finds inimical to him.
00:19:14.000 That's not the job of the Attorney General.
00:19:15.000 No, I know.
00:19:16.000 It isn't.
00:19:17.000 And the Attorney General's job has always been a little apart from other cabinet jobs.
00:19:21.000 The Attorney General has to be the man who enforces the nation's laws involving everybody, including the President.
00:19:29.000 Okay, so Brit Hume is even saying, okay, don't get rid of Sessions.
00:19:32.000 Tucker Carlson, who has been full on on the Trump train, he comes out yesterday and he says, listen, these attacks on Sessions are nuts.
00:19:37.000 It's completely a waste of time and effort.
00:19:39.000 Mr. President, get back to work.
00:19:41.000 It helps nobody but the partisans who are pushing it.
00:19:44.000 So it's easy to understand the frustration the president feels.
00:19:48.000 But publicly attacking Jeff Sessions for all of that, that is nuts.
00:19:51.000 Senior White House staff thinks so too.
00:19:53.000 They have asked the president to stop, so far without success.
00:19:56.000 Meanwhile, Sessions hasn't said a word.
00:20:00.000 Okay, so Tucker, too, is saying that there is a breaking point.
00:20:03.000 Breitbart News yesterday printed a story in which it said Trump vs. Trump and attacked Trump for attacking Sessions.
00:20:08.000 Pat Buchanan said Sessions deserves far better than the manner in which he's being treated.
00:20:12.000 Gingrich says that Trump should stop his attacks on Sessions.
00:20:14.000 So, you're seeing virtually the entire Trumpian right, at least the academic class,
00:20:18.000 Say to Trump, this is something you can't do.
00:20:20.000 And the reason you're seeing that is because there is a group of people who believed that Trump was going to be the avatar for their policy.
00:20:25.000 They didn't just elect Trump to yell at things and scream at the TV and tweet silly things.
00:20:30.000 They actually elected somebody because they thought he can be, he can do all those things and that's great, but he can also be the avatar of our policy goals.
00:20:36.000 And when Trump does things that just not only distract from that, but undermine it, Jeff Sessions is a person who was on the Trump train before anyone else.
00:20:44.000 I mean, he was the engineer on the Trump train.
00:20:46.000 This is a guy who, he was the first senator to endorse Trump in the primaries.
00:20:50.000 He was the driving force behind Trump's immigration policy, which is probably Trump's most popular policy with his base.
00:20:55.000 Getting rid of Sessions is a huge mistake for Trump.
00:20:57.000 We will see whether Trump has painted himself into a box here.
00:21:00.000 That is the big question.
00:21:01.000 Has Trump gone so far down this path that now he can't afford to back off?
00:21:04.000 Will he have to fire Sessions because he's come out so obviously against Sessions, and is that why he's trying to feed red meat to the crowd with the transgender policy stuff and mentioning how people will talk about Merry Christmas again?
00:21:15.000 He's basically going to revamp all of the old Fox News talking points from five years ago, the war on Christmas kind of stuff, in order to pander to a particular crowd, so then when he fires Sessions, we go, oh, okay, fine, but at least he said no transgenders in the military.
00:21:26.000 That's what I'm not, I'm hoping that's not what happens here.
00:21:28.000 I'm hoping that Trump pursues good policy like the transgender policy that he is pursuing in accordance with General James Mattis, who actually knows what he's doing, and that he lays off accessions and gets back to work because that's what we need more of.
00:21:40.000 And Trump is perfectly capable of doing this.
00:21:42.000 So Trump is perfectly capable of doing good things.
00:21:44.000 So do we have good Trump, bad Trump?
00:21:45.000 Because we just did a bunch of bad Trump, but there's some good Trump here.
00:21:48.000 So if we have good Trump, bad Trump, let's play that as well.
00:21:51.000 Good Trump, bad Trump, which one will we get today?
00:21:57.000 Okay, so President Trump, he's perfectly capable of talking straight to the American people when he wants to.
00:22:04.000 The problem is he's so easily distractible.
00:22:05.000 So yesterday, he did a speech in Ohio.
00:22:07.000 This is where he is at his best.
00:22:08.000 I've said for months now that the White House should basically just put Trump on tour.
00:22:12.000 They should just put him in Rust Belt areas, talking to people, doing his speeches, enjoying himself.
00:22:17.000 Here is Trump saying that he's here to talk straight to the American people.
00:22:20.000 This is his shtick.
00:22:21.000 This is where he should live.
00:22:22.000 He should never move off of this.
00:22:24.000 We have spent the entire week celebrating with the hard-working men and women who are helping us make America great again.
00:22:43.000 I'm here this evening to cut through the fake news filter and to speak straight to the American people.
00:22:54.000 Okay, so this is where Trump is at his best.
00:22:57.000 And, you know, he has these moments that are great.
00:22:58.000 So there's a protester who showed up at one of his protests with a hammer and sickle.
00:23:02.000 And here is Trump just mocking the crap out of him deservedly.
00:23:17.000 Boy, he's a young one.
00:23:18.000 He's going back home to mommy.
00:23:19.000 Oh, is he in trouble.
00:23:21.000 He's in trouble.
00:23:23.000 He's in trouble.
00:23:27.000 And I'll bet his mommy voted for us, right?
00:23:33.000 So look, I mean, that's where Trump is at his best.
00:23:35.000 If you paired that with some actual policy prescriptions, then he'd be golden because Trump is great at that part of this.
00:23:41.000 He's great at that part of this, but he needs to actually get back to that part of this and stop focusing so much on these loyalty tests.
00:23:47.000 I mean, you remember that supposedly he asked FBI Director James Comey before he appointed him, would he get his loyalty?
00:23:52.000 And then he denied later that he'd asked.
00:23:54.000 Comey for his loyalty?
00:23:55.000 Is there any doubt at this point that he asked Comey for his loyalty?
00:23:57.000 Is there any doubt?
00:23:58.000 I mean, he's going out there.
00:23:59.000 He spent the last week saying that Jeff Sessions isn't loyal to him.
00:24:02.000 Jeff Sessions is the most loyal to him.
00:24:04.000 And he's out there questioning his loyalty.
00:24:05.000 It's very difficult to claim that Trump isn't motivated by loyalty to him above all.
00:24:10.000 He needs to get beyond that.
00:24:11.000 He needs to be bigger than that.
00:24:12.000 He's the president of the damn United States.
00:24:13.000 For goodness sake.
00:24:15.000 For goodness sake.
00:24:15.000 The most powerful man on earth.
00:24:16.000 Get over your issues and start working for the American people.
00:24:21.000 Meanwhile, speaking of people who are not working for the American people, the United States Senate is right now looking at a bunch of options on healthcare.
00:24:27.000 They passed the motion to proceed that basically needed 51 votes to consider the House bill
00:24:35.000 On, uh, Obamacare revision.
00:24:37.000 I'm not gonna call it repeal and replace because it isn't, it was Obamacare revision.
00:24:40.000 Uh, they had this vote to proceed on it.
00:24:42.000 That didn't mean a vote to pass it, that meant to proceed to debate.
00:24:45.000 They got 51 votes, uh, and protesters from the left, being the idiots that they are, they immediately started chanting to kill the bill.
00:24:51.000 There's only one problem.
00:24:52.000 No one knows what the bill is.
00:24:54.000 So they presented the BRCA, the House version of the bill, last night.
00:24:58.000 It went down to flaming defeat.
00:25:00.000 Nine Republicans voted against it, showing once again that Republicans don't actually want to touch Obamacare.
00:25:05.000 And the protesters were chanting, kill the bill.
00:25:07.000 There have been like five different bills that are being presented.
00:25:09.000 We still don't know the final text of the bill, so it's kind of weird for them to chant this, but there you are.
00:25:20.000 Sergeant at Arms will restore order in the chamber.
00:25:22.000 Okay, meanwhile, Mitch McConnell is saying that, you know, this is a vote to open debate.
00:25:27.000 We're finally going to get to this open debate.
00:25:29.000 Guys, for seven years you should have been having this debate.
00:25:32.000 I don't know what you were doing for nearly the last third of my life.
00:25:36.000 What were you doing?
00:25:37.000 You were just sitting around bitching about Obama.
00:25:39.000 I get it.
00:25:39.000 It's fun.
00:25:40.000 But, at some point shouldn't you have figured out what you were going to do?
00:25:43.000 So here's Mitch McConnell, you know, championing the idea that we've finally opened debate.
00:25:46.000 Yay!
00:25:47.000 We've opened debate.
00:25:48.000 You have a majority in this chamber.
00:25:50.000 You should have been able to do this pretty easily.
00:25:54.000 They didn't send us here just to do the easy stuff.
00:25:59.000 They expect us to tackle the big problems.
00:26:04.000 And obviously we can't get an outcome if we don't start the debate.
00:26:09.000 And that's what the motion to proceed is all about.
00:26:15.000 Many of us on this side of the aisle have waited for years for this opportunity and thought it would probably never come.
00:26:23.000 Some of us were a little surprised by the election last year.
00:26:29.000 I'm sorry, I can't play too much of this audio, lest everyone drive off the road if you're listening and burst into fiery flame, the boredom from listening to Mitch McConnell.
00:26:36.000 I mean, that dude, he has a gift.
00:26:39.000 He has a gift.
00:26:39.000 If we could somehow bottle his charisma into pill form, it would cure insomnia for millions.
00:26:46.000 In any case, the big news that came out of the speeches yesterday was John McCain.
00:26:49.000 So McCain comes back to the chamber, you know, grouchy old John McCain.
00:26:53.000 I don't think so.
00:27:13.000 You know, all prayers with him.
00:27:15.000 But he was getting a lot of praise for this speech.
00:27:16.000 On the left, they were angry at the speech because he was saying we should return to regular order.
00:27:20.000 We need some sort of bipartisanship.
00:27:21.000 And then he voted in favor of the motion to proceed.
00:27:23.000 So the left was saying, well, if you want bipartisanship, why are you voting on a motion to proceed to move forward?
00:27:29.000 And the right was saying, but in the same speech, he said he's not going to vote for the actual bill.
00:27:33.000 So if you're not going to vote for the actual bill, why vote on the motion to proceed?
00:27:35.000 You already have two Republicans, Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, who say they won't vote for any underlying bill, which means basically all this stuff is DOA.
00:27:42.000 In any case, McCain gave this speech, and a lot of people were celebrating it.
00:27:45.000 I did not like this speech.
00:27:47.000 I did not like this speech from McCain, and I didn't like it for a variety of reasons.
00:27:51.000 There's one thing I liked about it, and there were a bunch of things that I didn't.
00:27:54.000 McCain is one of these people who believes, he's like John Roberts on the Supreme Court.
00:27:58.000 He believes in the prestige of the institution, the magic of the Senate.
00:28:01.000 You know, John Roberts felt this about the Supreme Court, which is why he supposedly ruled the way he did in the Obamacare case.
00:28:07.000 He said, I don't want to undermine the prestige of the court as a body that's above politics.
00:28:13.000 So what I'm going to do is I'm going to make it totally political, and I'm going to rewrite law from the bench.
00:28:17.000 John McCain does some of that same stuff.
00:28:19.000 Oh, the prestige of the Senate.
00:28:20.000 A collegial body where we get together and we discuss the issues on a higher level while ignoring all of the noise from outside.
00:28:26.000 I hate this garbage.
00:28:27.000 I hate this garbage because it's both disingenuous and it's a losing strategy.
00:28:30.000 In any case, he starts off with the stuff that I like.
00:28:32.000 He talks about, look, we're a co-equal branch of government.
00:28:34.000 We are not Donald Trump's subordinates.
00:28:36.000 And that means that we should pass policies that we think are beneficial for the country.
00:28:39.000 This part is true.
00:28:40.000 Here is McCain yesterday.
00:28:42.000 This place is important.
00:28:45.000 The work we do is important.
00:28:48.000 Our strange rules and seemingly eccentric practices that slow our proceedings and insist on our cooperation are important.
00:28:56.000 Our founders envisioned the Senate as the more deliberative, careful body that operates at a greater distance than the other body from the public passions of the hour.
00:29:05.000 We are an important check on the powers of the executive.
00:29:09.000 Our consent is necessary for the President to appoint jurists and powerful government officials, and in many respects, to conduct foreign policy.
00:29:18.000 Whether or not we are of the same party, we are not the president's subordinates.
00:29:25.000 We are his equal.
00:29:27.000 Okay, that's all fine.
00:29:28.000 That's all fine.
00:29:29.000 But then here's the part that's the problem.
00:29:31.000 Okay, so he has two things that are a problem.
00:29:33.000 He calls for a return to regular order.
00:29:34.000 Regular order means that you're not going to use reconciliation in order to pass things.
00:29:38.000 You're actually going to gather a filibuster-proof majority in order to move things to debate, and that would probably require bipartisan consensus.
00:29:45.000 So he calls for this yesterday.
00:29:46.000 Here's what he says.
00:29:48.000 Our system doesn't depend on our nobility.
00:29:51.000 It accounts for our imperfections and gives us an order to our individual strivings that has helped make ours the most powerful and prosperous society on earth.
00:30:02.000 It is our responsibility to preserve that, even when it requires us to do something less satisfying than winning.
00:30:11.000 Okay, so then he finishes up by bashing talk radio because this is John McCain's thing, he has to be above it all, he bashes talk radio, of course.
00:30:17.000 I hope we can again rely on humility, on our need to cooperate, on our dependence on each other, to learn how to trust each other again, and by so doing better, serve the people who elected us.
00:30:30.000 Stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio and television and the internet.
00:30:36.000 To hell with them!
00:30:39.000 And then he gets applause from the chamber, of course.
00:30:41.000 Stop listening to all those younguns who are in their cars and on their phones using the telephoners and the infowebs.
00:30:49.000 Here's my problem with all this.
00:30:50.000 Number one, Democrats don't play by the rules with regard to this kind of stuff.
00:30:54.000 In 2005, John McCain worked with Democrats to avoid Democratic filibusters.
00:31:02.000 So Democrats filibustered a bunch of Bush judicial nominees.
00:31:04.000 You recall this.
00:31:05.000 And in doing so, John McCain put together what they called the Gang of Fourteen, and he made a deal with a bunch of Democrats that certain judicial nominees would go through, and certain judicial nominees would not, but they wouldn't use the filibuster in order to shut down the process.
00:31:15.000 It was unprecedented to use the filibuster to shut down judicial nominees before this point.
00:31:20.000 Great for John McCain.
00:31:21.000 Bipartisan solution.
00:31:22.000 Look at that bipartisanship returning to regular order.
00:31:25.000 Okay, in 2010, the Democrats are short votes on Obamacare.
00:31:29.000 And they're attempting, through a bunch of procedural manipulations, to ram through their agenda.
00:31:33.000 And John McCain approaches the Democrats.
00:31:34.000 This time, the Republicans are in the minority in the Senate.
00:31:37.000 So in 2005, they're in the majority.
00:31:38.000 In 2010, they're in the minority.
00:31:39.000 And John McCain goes to the Democrats, and he says, I would like a new gang of 14.
00:31:43.000 Let's put together a gang of 14, and we'll get together, and we'll hash out some compromises on health care that we're able to proceed with.
00:31:49.000 And the Democrats turn to John McCain, and they go, you go screw yourself.
00:31:53.000 Return to regular order is only a thing if Democrats are willing to work with you.
00:31:57.000 Democrats are not willing to work with Republicans, and they are willing to bend the rules and break them, which means that the rules themselves no longer apply when it comes to these sorts of niceties.
00:32:06.000 Listen, I would prefer that we had bipartisanship in the Senate, too.
00:32:08.000 I would prefer a lot of things.
00:32:10.000 I would prefer that every senator were Ted Cruz and Mike Lee look-alikes.
00:32:13.000 I prefer that Ben Sasse were the chair of the Senate.
00:32:15.000 I prefer a lot of things.
00:32:16.000 I prefer that unicorns were able to power our cars with their magic poop.
00:32:20.000 Lots of things I wish, but John McCain's wish for what the Senate should be is not what the Senate is.
00:32:24.000 And when John McCain says, stop listening to those bombastic loudmouths on talk radio, it's those bombastic loudmouths on talk radio that won your party a majority and ensured that Obamacare repeal stays on the table and does not allow you guys to get away with crappy compromises that end up compromising the promises that you made.
00:32:41.000 I'm getting kind of tired of this elitist, and this is elitism, this elitist routine where we in the Senate, we know better, don't listen to those people who elected us.
00:32:47.000 The people who elected you are the ones who listen to those of us who actually speak about politics for a living because we care enough to try and tell our audiences what's happening.
00:32:57.000 All best wishes to John McCain.
00:32:59.000 I appreciate that he has a lot of respect for the processes of government, but he needs to live in the real world with regard to this stuff, and stop trying to pretend the Senate is something it's not, and more than anything, stop trying to pretend Democrats are something they aren't.
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00:34:39.000 Okay, time for some things I like, things I hate, and then the Bible.
00:34:41.000 So, things I like.
00:34:44.000 This week we are doing music that is featured in movies.
00:34:46.000 So yesterday we did Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings, which of course is in Platoon, and Lorenzo's Oil.
00:34:52.000 This is another piece of music that you will all recognize, but some people don't know what it is.
00:34:56.000 This is Strauss' Blue Danube Waltz.
00:34:59.000 You'll remember it from 2001 A Space Odyssey when there is a three hour shot of a turning spaceship.
00:35:04.000 And here is the Blue Danube Waltz.
00:35:15.000 I don't know.
00:35:38.000 So, great piece.
00:35:39.000 Of course, everybody knows this piece.
00:35:40.000 It's been used in cartoons all over the place.
00:35:43.000 Great story about this.
00:35:43.000 It's composed in 1866, and Strauss' stepdaughter went and met Johannes Brahms, who's actually one of the nicer composers.
00:35:49.000 A lot of composers are jerks.
00:35:50.000 Brahms was not.
00:35:51.000 When he signed something for her, he wrote down the first few bars of the Blue Danube Waltz, and then he wrote down, alas, not by Brahms.
00:35:57.000 Underneath, that was his autograph on the piece of paper.
00:36:01.000 So, great piece.
00:36:02.000 Okay, a quick thing I hate.
00:36:04.000 We'll do that.
00:36:11.000 Okay, so Van Jones is... One of the things that drives me absolutely up a wall, and we talked about this a little bit yesterday, is the attempt to infuse politics into every aspect of pop culture.
00:36:20.000 The one that drives me the most nuts is infusing politics into sports.
00:36:23.000 Sports is just a competition.
00:36:25.000 Leave me alone.
00:36:26.000 I want to see somebody hit a ball, or shoot a ball, or hit somebody in the face.
00:36:29.000 That's all I want from my sports.
00:36:31.000 Van Jones says athletes should be more political.
00:36:34.000 No, for the love of God, they shouldn't.
00:36:36.000 Here is Van Jones saying this.
00:36:38.000 Do you think athletes should be more vocal than they are?
00:36:40.000 Of course, on both sides, on all issues.
00:36:43.000 And I'll tell you why.
00:36:46.000 The number one rare thing in the world right now, it's not money.
00:36:51.000 I mean, there's money all over the place.
00:36:52.000 I don't have enough.
00:36:53.000 You don't have enough.
00:36:53.000 It's all over the place.
00:36:54.000 It's time.
00:36:56.000 It's attention.
00:36:57.000 The richest people I know are still time poor.
00:37:01.000 So if somebody has attention, if they're famous,
00:37:05.000 They have the most valuable commodity in the world.
00:37:08.000 If you can use that to make the world better, you should.
00:37:12.000 And part of the problem I see now is people are saying, I'm not going to speak out.
00:37:16.000 Here are these great issues that are going on.
00:37:17.000 Bad things are happening.
00:37:18.000 I'm not going to speak out because I want to protect my paycheck.
00:37:22.000 That's very inspiring, sir.
00:37:23.000 We're gonna put that on your tombstone.
00:37:25.000 Like, said nothing.
00:37:52.000 Okay, when Muhammad Ali was mouthing off about politics, it was not because he was widely knowledgeable about politics in the United States.
00:37:58.000 Most of what he was saying was wrong and fed to him by the Nation of Islam.
00:38:01.000 The idea that athletes, on a routine basis, are saying intelligent things is just silly, and it demeans our culture.
00:38:06.000 You want to know how you got Donald Trump as president, lefties?
00:38:08.000 It's because of this.
00:38:09.000 You merged culture and politics, and then you're surprised when a cultural figure becomes a politician and wins everything.
00:38:14.000 Okay, so, before we leave, quick Bible note.
00:38:17.000 So, we've gone through all of the various parts of the Old Testament, so now we've been doing parts of the Prophets and the Writings that correspond to the Old Testament.
00:38:26.000 So, one of the pieces that we read this week is from the Book of Isaiah, and there's one particular verse from the Book of Isaiah that I want to point out, and that is from Chapter 1, the very beginning.
00:38:36.000 It says, The vision of Isaiah, the son of Amos, what he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah,
00:38:41.000 And it says, Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth, for the Lord has spoken.
00:38:45.000 Children I have raised and exalted, yet they have rebelled against me.
00:38:48.000 So, what does it mean to have the heavens and the earth actually testify against a people, right?
00:38:54.000 I mean, they're not living things.
00:38:56.000 How can you have them testify?
00:38:57.000 And the idea is that God created the world for a purpose.
00:39:00.000 He created the world for the purpose of man, and created the world as a testimony to man.
00:39:05.000 And this is why man's control of nature
00:39:08.000 Is so unbelievably beyond anything else that you find in the animal kingdom because he created our minds in accordance with his.
00:39:15.000 He created our ability to shape the world around us in accordance with his will.
00:39:19.000 He also gave us the power to destroy and what we do with the world around us is going to be the testimony against us.
00:39:25.000 So this is not an environmentalist call never to cut down a tree, but it is a suggestion that if we do not do the right things,
00:39:33.000 Then the Earth itself will be testimony against us for having done the wrong things, because if the Earth was only created in order to help us be better to one another and fulfill God's mission, then our failure to do so will basically disown the reason for Earth's creation in the first place.
00:39:48.000 You know, Earth is not the center of the universe, obviously, but we are the center of God's universe, and that's what makes... and He loves us so that He placed us in a place that we had the capacity to control the elements around us.
00:39:59.000 If we fail to do that in proper fashion, if we fail
00:40:02.000 To use our powers for good, then the existence of the universe essentially becomes meaningless in the religious point of view.
00:40:09.000 Okay, so, we'll be back tomorrow.
00:40:11.000 I'll be testifying from Washington, D.C., so I'll give you the update on how it went on the Hill.
00:40:15.000 I'll be testifying about colleges and crackdowns on free speech.
00:40:18.000 If you're over near the Hill, feel free to show up.
00:40:21.000 I believe it's open to the public.
00:40:22.000 We will talk to you tomorrow.
00:40:23.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:40:24.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.