The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 37 - Yes, Religious Profiling Is Necessary

00:00:00.000 Here we are, it is a Tuesday, and we have the very first photo of that delightful American couple, Syed Farouk and Tashfeen Malik, entering the United States.

00:00:09.000 We'll show you that picture, we'll talk about it, we'll talk about racial profiling, and then we'll get to some Stuff I Hate, Taylor Swift edition.

00:00:16.000 I'm Ben Shapiro, this is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:25.000 Alrighty, so the fact is that today we finally have the photo of what's been happening over at ABC News.

00:00:32.000 ABC News has obtained the photo of the two terrorists who entered the United States in 2014.

00:00:37.000 Syed Farouk was an American citizen.

00:00:40.000 Tashfeen Malik was his brand new lovely bride.

00:00:42.000 He was bringing her back to the United States to be part of the greatest country on the face of the planet.

00:00:47.000 And it did not work out as planned, obviously. 0.96

00:00:50.000 They decided that it would be more fun to produce a six-month-old baby and then to kill 0.99

00:00:54.000 As many Americans as humanly possible. 0.99

00:00:56.000 So, as they were doing that, they decided to enter the United States.

00:00:59.000 We have this picture that's now been revealed of these guys entering the United States.

00:01:03.000 Here's what that picture looks like.

00:01:07.000 Oh, look at that newlywed couple. 1.00

00:01:08.000 So charming, so cute.

00:01:11.000 And you do wonder, you know, why would anyone possibly have the picture of these folks as possible terrorists?

00:01:18.000 You know, are there any giveaways that we can spot here?

00:01:21.000 You know, things that we might think about as possible terrorists.

00:01:24.000 You know, connections.

00:01:26.000 Things to look for.

00:01:28.000 Anybody.

00:01:30.000 I know it's a big mystery.

00:01:31.000 I know it's a big mystery.

00:01:31.000 And I know that President Obama has declared that if Caitlyn Jenner says that Caitlyn Jenner is a woman, then Caitlyn Jenner is a woman.

00:01:37.000 But these people are not Muslims.

00:01:39.000 They're not. 0.98

00:01:39.000 We know that because they ended up being terrorists. 0.98

00:01:41.000 And because they ended up being terrorists, that means that they're not Muslims. 0.94

00:01:45.000 In fact, it's actually racist to show this photo because the fact is that she ended up being a terrorist and not a Muslim. 0.75

00:01:52.000 See how they're mutually exclusive? 0.66

00:01:54.000 So we can never, ever, ever think, hey, wait a second, she looks like a very religious Muslim. 1.00

00:01:58.000 Doesn't mean she's a terrorist, of course, because that would be stupid. 1.00

00:02:01.000 And that is stupid. 1.00

00:02:02.000 But, would it not be one checkmark among many that might lead to identification of a terrorist? 1.00

00:02:09.000 After all, if she was coming in wearing a nun's habit, that'd probably be a checkmark against Islamic terror. 0.99

00:02:15.000 See, Islamic terror actually has to do something with Islam. 0.80

00:02:18.000 Well, according to the left, this is the big question. 0.92

00:02:21.000 The big question isn't racial profiling, it's whether we ought to frontally lobotomize ourselves.

00:02:25.000 Because nobody is in favor of the idea that Muslims should be targeted just because they're Muslims.

00:02:30.000 However, when it comes to Islamic terror, then we are talking about descriptions of a suspect.

00:02:35.000 And when you talk about descriptions of a suspect in Muslim terrorism, there are a bunch of factors, right?

00:02:40.000 So if you're gonna name the factors, you'd probably say, okay, comes from a Muslim country, 0.63

00:02:44.000 I don't

00:03:06.000 Right, but doesn't attend mosque ever and isn't Muslim. 0.99

00:03:09.000 Probably a weird and crazy person, but not probably a Muslim terrorist, right? 0.98

00:03:12.000 If we're trying to find Muslim terrorists, you actually want to go with the description of the suspect. 0.99

00:03:17.000 But what's hilarious about all of this is that the left now wants frontal lobotomy. 0.98

00:03:21.000 It's not just we have to treat every Muslim

00:03:24.000 Just as we would treat anybody else in the United States, which of course is what we should do, as somebody who wears a yarmulke and benefits from this sort of protection in the United States.

00:03:32.000 You know, the idea that you dress differently, you wear something different, you should still be treated the same.

00:03:36.000 I'm fully on board with that.

00:03:38.000 However, when it comes to law enforcement and their level of suspicion, then it's going to tick up slightly, if you are Muslim, slightly more than if you are Christian or Jewish, just statistically speaking, because that is called a description of the suspect if you're looking for Islamic terrorism.

00:03:52.000 Or if you're looking for overall risk of terrorism.

00:03:55.000 But according to the left, we have to frontally lobotomize ourselves.

00:03:57.000 So, Melissa Harris Perry, who... She always hashtags Nerdland for some reason. 1.00

00:04:03.000 This is one of the things that she likes to hashtag, Nerdland.

00:04:06.000 And she is the least nerdy nerd. 1.00

00:04:09.000 Of all time. 0.94

00:04:09.000 Because to be a nerd, you're supposed to be smart, actually. 0.94

00:04:12.000 And Melissa Harris Perry definitely is not.

00:04:14.000 So she was on MSNBC on Sunday, and she said that the New York Times should not have shown a picture of this woman wearing her hijab.

00:04:25.000 And they shouldn't have done that because that, of course, is racist.

00:04:28.000 It's racist to show a terrorist in a hijab.

00:04:30.000 So here is Melissa Harris Perry along with Linda Sarsour from the Arab American Association of New York talking about this.

00:04:37.000 And I'm extremely disturbed.

00:04:38.000 I mean, I looked at the New York Times cover today.

00:04:41.000 Here you have a whole op-ed on gun control.

00:04:43.000 Great.

00:04:44.000 Right next to it is pictures from the apartment of things that I have in my house.

00:04:48.000 Yes!

00:04:48.000 Like, these are things that all Muslims have in their house.

00:04:51.000 There's nothing about that that tells you a story about

00:04:55.000 We're good to go.

00:05:25.000 It's like, for me, that is a difference.

00:05:29.000 And it is a material and meaningful difference in how we... So on the one hand, again, I want to be able to talk about what the thing is that is terrorism.

00:05:37.000 On the other hand, I have to reflect that this happens only for a specific community.

00:05:42.000 It only happens for a specific community.

00:05:44.000 Okay, I'll tell you what only happens for a specific community.

00:05:46.000 This kind of conversation only happens for a specific community because the fact is when it came to Robert Deere, they did try to dig up anything they possibly could on his level of Christianity, and when that ended up failing because he was a nut job, then they gave up on it.

00:05:59.000 With Dylan Storm Roof, they went after everything he could buy.

00:06:02.000 His Confederate flag turned into a national issue, right?

00:06:04.000 Everyone with a Confederate flag was now implicated in Dylan Storm Roof's shooting of people in Charleston.

00:06:10.000 So, by the way, if you do walk into somebody's home, first of all, if you walked into her home, I assume you would know that she's a Muslim because you're walking into her home unless you're breaking in.

00:06:17.000 She's clearly a Muslim, this lady, because she's wearing the hijab.

00:06:20.000 And it is not racism to show a picture of the suspect.

00:06:23.000 The only pictures of her available are ones of her with hijab.

00:06:26.000 It actually makes me wonder.

00:06:27.000 There was a long delay last week between the time that this broke

00:06:31.000 And the picture of this woman coming out, Tashfeen Malik, and people were wondering why didn't the picture come out right away?

00:06:36.000 We had pictures of Dylan Storm Roof almost immediately, even as the attack was still underway.

00:06:41.000 And I'm wondering if it's possible the media were desperately searching for a picture of her without hijab that they could show, and it turns out that no pictures of her exist without hijab, which is not surprising.

00:06:51.000 There are not any pictures of me so far as I'm aware, very few pictures of me without my yarmulke and my hat.

00:06:56.000 And again, as somebody who covers their head all the time, so it's a very similar situation, I wear a headgear for religious reasons, right?

00:07:01.000 I wear a yarmulke for religious reasons.

00:07:03.000 I understand that that makes me visible as a Jew.

00:07:07.000 Wearing a hijab makes you visible as a Muslim. 1.00

00:07:09.000 To pretend there is no linkage whatsoever between Islam and terrorism is idiotic. 0.99

00:07:14.000 And when they show the front page and they show that there's a Quran there and they show that there's various Islamic scriptures there, 1.00

00:07:21.000 If you walked into the apartment, would you think they were a terrorist?

00:07:24.000 No, you wouldn't.

00:07:25.000 Would you think there's a higher likelihood that this person might be associated with Islamic terror than, say, the Irish nun next door? 1.00

00:07:33.000 Yeah, because you're not stupid. 1.00

00:07:35.000 Right? 0.99

00:07:35.000 That doesn't mean that the chance is high. 0.99

00:07:36.000 It doesn't mean that the chance is huge.

00:07:38.000 But it does mean that it is an indicator.

00:07:40.000 It is one factor among many that people should be looking at, just like any crime description.

00:07:44.000 Is one factor among many. 0.56

00:07:46.000 When there's a suspect who robs a store, they don't just say, okay, he's a black guy if he happens to be a black guy. 0.57

00:07:51.000 They say black guy of a particular height and a particular weight wearing a particular set of clothing. 0.84

00:07:55.000 Right? 0.99

00:07:56.000 It would be stupid not to include black in that description because it is a physical descriptor. 0.99

00:08:00.000 The same thing is true when it comes to Islam. 0.99

00:08:03.000 Right?

00:08:03.000 Practice behavior is a descriptor.

00:08:06.000 If you were to describe a Muslim terrorist, it would be relevant that this person attended mosque five times a day, for example.

00:08:12.000 Prayed five times a day.

00:08:13.000 That would be an indicator.

00:08:15.000 Wouldn't be the chief indicator, wouldn't be the only indicator, but it would be something that you might want to give a little more attention than somebody you can categorically rule out in terms of Islamic terror, like, for example, the 85-year-old Swedish lady who lives next door. 0.99

00:08:28.000 And it's really stupid. 0.99

00:08:28.000 This is the game that we're now going to play. 0.99

00:08:30.000 And what's amazing is that it makes Americans less safe.

00:08:32.000 So you've got Republicans today saying that it's just terrible what Donald Trump had to say.

00:08:38.000 So Donald Trump, he came out on Sunday and he was asked about racial profiling.

00:08:42.000 And here's what Donald Trump had to say about racial profiling.

00:08:45.000 I believe he was appearing on Meet the Press and there are a couple clips of him talking about racial profiling.

00:08:50.000 Here he is talking about racial profiling.

00:08:52.000 They were just normal people with kids, with a kid.

00:08:54.000 They went to work.

00:08:55.000 They were unsuspected.

00:08:56.000 What would you do?

00:08:57.000 Well, I don't know if they were regular people.

00:08:58.000 I heard the apartment was loaded up with bombs and with guns.

00:09:01.000 But nobody would ever assume that it was the case.

00:09:03.000 What would you do to... Well, I don't know.

00:09:04.000 When you have pipe bombs lying all over the floor, I don't think they're regular people.

00:09:09.000 I mean, you have pipe bombs all over the floor, so I don't think they're regular people.

00:09:12.000 Where's your camera, by the way?

00:09:14.000 Well, this man has a microphone.

00:09:20.000 Well, again, there were people that knew bad things were going on.

00:09:24.000 I mean, people knew that bad things were going on, and they didn't report it because of racial profiling.

00:09:30.000 But I don't think they were regular people.

00:09:31.000 To me, they're not regular people.

00:09:34.000 To me, they were criminals, and it's too bad somebody didn't find out about it sooner.

00:09:39.000 You know, it's amazing.

00:09:41.000 What he's saying is, of course, true.

00:09:42.000 They're not regular people.

00:09:42.000 They were building pipe bombs.

00:09:44.000 A lot of people knew that they were doing things that were nefarious, apparently including members of the family.

00:09:49.000 Syed Farouk's father came out and he said, yeah, my son liked ISIS and he was really super anti-Israel and wanted to destroy Israel and I knew he'd been buying weapons. 1.00

00:09:57.000 Yeah, call 9-1-1, ya idiot. 0.99

00:10:00.000 I mean, if you don't want to be lumped in, unless you're part of it, if you're part of it, then don't call 9-1-1, but I guarantee you, if somebody in my family said, by the way, I'm a fan of ISIS, and also I just bought a shotgun, I'd be like, okay, well, I'm gonna call the cops on you, and at least they're gonna check you out, right? 0.99

00:10:14.000 But no, we now have to blind ourselves.

00:10:17.000 Notice the way the reporter is phrasing that.

00:10:19.000 They're just regular people who happen to have pipe bombs lying around.

00:10:21.000 Just regular folks.

00:10:22.000 No indicators whatsoever.

00:10:23.000 You know, just like you walk into any apartment in San Bernardino, you'd expect to see the same thing, except for the pipe bombs.

00:10:29.000 The pipe bombs were sort of the giveaway, but aside from the pipe bombs, they were just regular people.

00:10:33.000 You know, last week we talked a little bit about the AIDS epidemic. 0.94

00:10:36.000 And we talked about how one of the stupid things that the left did is they suggested that anyone was equally susceptible to getting AIDS. 0.98

00:10:41.000 Right? 1.00

00:10:41.000 You could be walking down the street and boom! 1.00

00:10:43.000 It hits you like a bird crapping on you. 0.98

00:10:45.000 All of a sudden you've got AIDS. 0.86

00:10:46.000 Right?

00:10:46.000 Now it turns out that it's sort of behaviorally linked.

00:10:48.000 Islamic terrorism is behaviorally linked.

00:10:51.000 It's not like you're walking down the street and boom! 0.99

00:10:53.000 You get hit and you're an Islamic terrorist all of a sudden. 1.00

00:10:55.000 Now it turns out there are a few prerequisites that are there. 0.94

00:10:59.000 And those prerequisites are important to watch. 1.00

00:11:01.000 And if you don't, it's because you're being stupid. 1.00

00:11:03.000 And this has nothing to do with quote-unquote Islamophobia. 1.00

00:11:05.000 It has to do with the fact that if you are looking for Jewish terrorists, then you would look for people who practice Judaism, wouldn't you? 0.99

00:11:13.000 The fact is that it would be a ridiculous goal because there are so few Jewish terrorists on planet Earth. 0.99

00:11:18.000 There's one every five years or so. 0.99

00:11:20.000 Whereas Islamic terror is actually a pretty common occurrence around planet Earth. 0.99

00:11:24.000 It would be foolish to spend your time looking for Christian terrorists because there are so few of them. 0.94

00:11:27.000 But if you were going to look for a Christian terrorist, presumably you would look for somebody who had some Bibles in their home. 0.98

00:11:33.000 Presumably you would look for someone who went to church.

00:11:35.000 This is sort of the point, folks.

00:11:37.000 The point that I'm making here is that religious terrorism does exist in all religions, but it's the percentage that matters. 0.76

00:11:43.000 It's the level of the perversity inside the particular religion that matters. 1.00

00:11:46.000 President Obama admitted on Sunday that this is a perversion of Islam, which is the first time I've heard him actually say that it's Islam.

00:11:52.000 He said there's a problem within Islam.

00:11:53.000 That's the first time he said that.

00:11:55.000 But there was a... there's something fascinating.

00:11:57.000 Over the weekend in London, there was a terror attack.

00:12:00.000 And this Muslim guy ran into the subway station carrying a machete, and he macheted three people.

00:12:06.000 He injured three people, and the police tackled him to the ground.

00:12:09.000 And the video keeps going, and as the video is going, there's a guy who's walking by, presumably a Muslim guy.

00:12:17.000 Presumably, I would say probably a lower class Muslim guy, based on his accent. 1.00

00:12:21.000 And as he walks, I mean lower economic class, and as he walks by, he yells at the guy on the ground, You ain't no Muslim, bruv. 0.51

00:12:29.000 Right?

00:12:29.000 You have to do it in a cockney accent for it to make sense, but you're not a Muslim brother, right?

00:12:33.000 You ain't no Muslim, bruv. 1.00

00:12:34.000 And this has gone viral. 0.81

00:12:36.000 This trended on Twitter, this trended on Facebook.

00:12:39.000 You're not a Muslim, right? 1.00

00:12:41.000 This guy's not a Muslim. 0.99

00:12:42.000 David Cameron in the UK, he said the same thing.

00:12:44.000 He's not a Muslim. 1.00

00:12:45.000 No, he sort of is.

00:12:47.000 And actually you're doing a grave disservice if you think that Westerners are going to cleanse Islam of its more unsavory aspects. 1.00

00:12:54.000 That's not my job.

00:12:55.000 It's not President Obama's job.

00:12:57.000 It's not Melissa Harris Perry's job. 0.91

00:12:59.000 Well no, it turns out that if you're going to cleanse a religion of its radicalism, the only people who are capable of cleansing a religion of its radicalism are the people on the inside of that religion.

00:13:08.000 Radicalism in Christianity was cleansed by the people who were living in Christendom. 1.00

00:13:12.000 It wasn't because Muslims suddenly started treating Christians well in the Middle East.

00:13:16.000 Radicalism in Islam is going to have to be cleansed by people inside Islam who are doing the hard work. 1.00

00:13:22.000 And they're actually not helped by you saying things like, these guys are not Muslim.

00:13:27.000 Because all that does is it relieves them of responsibility.

00:13:30.000 Because now, what does it matter?

00:13:31.000 We've already told you, we don't think you're Muslim. 1.00

00:13:34.000 We don't think these guys are Muslim.

00:13:35.000 See, we've crafted this bizarre dichotomy in which real Islam means non-terrorism and fake Islam is terrorism. 0.90

00:13:42.000 But that's not our job.

00:13:44.000 Because the truth is what we're now doing is we're now crafting... So what's your identifier going to be?

00:13:48.000 How are you going to identify the terrorists now? 1.00

00:13:49.000 They're fake Muslims. 1.00

00:13:51.000 Right? 1.00

00:13:51.000 They're fake. 1.00

00:13:52.000 So how do you know?

00:13:53.000 You've just gotten rid of one of the aspects of catching the suspect, presumably, if you're trying to check out Islamic terror. 0.91

00:13:58.000 If you take Islamic out of the equation, it's going to be a lot harder for you to figure out who did this or who made the prospective suspect be. 0.62

00:14:06.000 President Obama, of course, feels that profiling of Muslims for terrorism is just like him being profiled personally.

00:14:13.000 You know, President Obama, a while back, he talked about how racial profiling was awful, how it had happened to him personally, and he's extended that same logic over to profiling of terrorists.

00:14:21.000 Loretta Lynch

00:14:23.000 Who's the Attorney General?

00:14:24.000 What's amazing is that Donald Trump, of course, is right.

00:14:27.000 Donald Trump would go on on the Sunday shows.

00:14:29.000 This is worth playing.

00:14:30.000 Donald Trump said, you know, if there are people here and they are Muslim immigrants, then we may want to track them beyond just checking them once.

00:14:38.000 As evidenced, Tahseen Malik got into the country.

00:14:41.000 We knew she was Muslim.

00:14:42.000 We knew she was hardcore. 1.00

00:14:43.000 And we didn't track her at all.

00:14:44.000 And then she and her husband went and shot 14 people.

00:14:46.000 Here's Donald Trump from I Believe Face the Nation.

00:14:49.000 But there were no red flags.

00:14:51.000 So, how do you stop this from happening again?

00:14:53.000 Well, I think there are red flags.

00:14:54.000 And a lot of people knew what was going on in that house or that apartment.

00:14:58.000 And people were not wanting to call because they thought it would be inappropriate to call.

00:15:03.000 Inappropriate why?

00:15:04.000 Well, they were saying that they would have been profiling.

00:15:10.000 And a person said, we sort of knew what was going on, but we don't want to profile.

00:15:14.000 Can you believe that?

00:15:15.000 Should there be profiling?

00:15:16.000 Well, I think there can be profiling.

00:15:18.000 How would that work?

00:15:19.000 If they thought there was something wrong with that group, and they saw what was happening, and they didn't want to call the police because they didn't want to be profiling, I think that's pretty bad.

00:15:27.000 People are dead.

00:15:28.000 A lot of people are dead right now.

00:15:30.000 So everybody wants to be politically correct, and that's part of the problem that we have with our country.

00:15:35.000 Have people been too politically correct with Muslims in America? 0.89

00:15:38.000 I think so.

00:15:39.000 I think so.

00:15:39.000 And with maybe other things too, but I think certainly so.

00:15:42.000 And as you know, I came out with, I want vigilance.

00:15:45.000 I want real vigilance.

00:15:47.000 And whether it's mosques or whatever it has to be. 0.98

00:15:51.000 But a lot of bad things are happening.

00:15:53.000 Whatever it has to be.

00:15:54.000 Does that include, I know you, where are you on the question of tracking Muslims in America?

00:16:00.000 Well, look, we are having a problem with radicals in the Muslim group. 0.95

00:16:07.000 Let's not kid ourselves.

00:16:08.000 And you can say it, or you don't have to say it, and maybe you won't even want to, but I've been saying it loud and strong.

00:16:14.000 So if you have people coming out of mosques with hatred and with death in their eyes and on their minds, we're going to have to do something.

00:16:25.000 We can't just say we're not going to look at it.

00:16:27.000 Now, I made that statement a number of weeks ago.

00:16:30.000 It took a lot of, you know, a lot of whatever.

00:16:32.000 A lot of people were not exactly thrilled with it.

00:16:35.000 And now everybody seems to agree with me.

00:16:37.000 But this idea of tracking Muslims in America, that's the thing.

00:16:39.000 Where are you on that?

00:16:40.000 You have people that have to be tracked.

00:16:42.000 If they're Muslims, they're Muslims. 1.00

00:16:44.000 But you have people that have to be tracked.

00:16:45.000 And we better be... I use the word vigilance.

00:16:47.000 We have to show vigilance.

00:16:49.000 We have to have it.

00:16:49.000 And if we don't,

00:16:51.000 We're foolish people. 0.98

00:16:53.000 You know, we're being led by people that don't know what's happening. 0.98

00:16:57.000 When you have President Obama talking about global warming as our biggest problem, we have a president that is just not with it at all.

00:17:05.000 There are 3 million Muslims in America.

00:17:07.000 What should they feel about their place in American life now?

00:17:10.000 Look, we are having a tremendous problem.

00:17:14.000 With radical Islamic terrorism.

00:17:16.000 I mean, well, you can say it, or you don't have to say it.

00:17:19.000 And we have a president that won't issue the term.

00:17:21.000 He won't talk about it.

00:17:23.000 So we're having this tremendous radical Islamic terrorism.

00:17:27.000 Okay?

00:17:27.000 A lot of people don't want to even say it.

00:17:29.000 Not a lot of people.

00:17:30.000 We have one person that I really know of, and it's called President Obama.

00:17:34.000 Until he admits that this is a problem, we're never going to solve the problem.

00:17:37.000 But he's only going to be there, fortunately, a little bit more than a year.

00:17:40.000 Because the problem will get solved when he gets the hell out.

00:17:44.000 And of course, Donald Trump is exactly right here.

00:17:46.000 He's getting all sorts of flack, by the way, from left and right.

00:17:48.000 Hillary Clinton, she actually said, the same day that Donald Trump was saying this, she was saying, no, no, no, no, I will never say Islamic terror because it might offend Muslims.

00:17:56.000 It might offend Muslims to say Islamic terror.

00:17:58.000 Okay, when people say Jewish terror, I'm not offended by it if the person who was actually engaging in the terrorism was Jewish. 0.67

00:18:06.000 And if the person was a religious Jew, then it makes me sick to my stomach, and that's why you see universally, not like with a few exceptions, universally, if they're an act of Jewish terrorism, everyone, including the Prime Minister of the State of Israel, comes out and condemns it. 0.71

00:18:20.000 Okay, when was the last time that you saw the entire Muslim world condemn things?

00:18:23.000 It doesn't happen.

00:18:24.000 It just doesn't happen that way.

00:18:26.000 But Trump's rivals are jumping on him.

00:18:29.000 Jeb Bush said on ABC's This Week that the FBI already has the tools it needs to monitor everybody, which of course, if that were true, then what would have happened in San Bernardino wouldn't have happened.

00:18:38.000 New Jersey Governor Chris Christie

00:18:40.000 He said that his comments highlighted his inexperience.

00:18:42.000 He said, we don't need to be profiling in order to be able to get the job done.

00:18:46.000 What you need is a president who's had experience, and they know how to do this, and not someone who's going to talk off the top of their head, which is about as vague as it's possible to be.

00:18:54.000 Every criminal profile is a profile, right?

00:18:57.000 I mean, there used to be a show on CBS called The Profiler.

00:18:59.000 This is what criminality is.

00:19:00.000 When you are searching for criminals, you actually have to look for the people who fit the particular bill.

00:19:06.000 But again, the Obama administration is more focused on changing our notions of reality than in protecting us.

00:19:11.000 So Loretta Lynch, the Attorney General, she said last week in the same environment, in which Trump is right by the way, he's right that there was a neighbor who said he saw a group of Middle Eastern men going into this apartment at weird hours, carrying packages, and he didn't call the cops because of racial profiling, he was afraid he'd be labeled.

00:19:28.000 At the same time that President Obama is saying, if you see something, say something, he's sending out his Attorney General to target the Irving Police Department.

00:19:34.000 Here's Loretta Lynch, the Attorney General of the United States, at the Muslim Advocates' Annual Dinner, explaining that really the great threat here is that we would be too anti-Islamic, and so she's going to go after the Irving Police Department for having the temerity to investigate Clock Boy, that's Ahmed Mohammed, that 14-year-old kid who brought a clock that looked like a bomb to his school and then got invited to the White House for his trouble.

00:19:55.000 Here's Loretta Lynch. 0.99

00:19:57.000 Everything need not result in a lawsuit, but some things do have to go to that area.

00:20:03.000 We have, as you may know, opened an investigation into the case of the young men in Irving, Texas.

00:20:09.000 We will see where that investigation goes.

00:20:11.000 So you have extreme situations like that, but you also have those everyday things that happen, and we have an important, important role to play.

00:20:19.000 So please, please think of us there as well.

00:20:22.000 Great.

00:20:22.000 Think of us there.

00:20:23.000 Anytime you see something that somebody comes and asks a question from law enforcement or there's a detention and then a release, think of suing.

00:20:30.000 Think of suing and think about going after the person who actually reported you in the first place and humiliating them and making them lose their job.

00:20:36.000 There'll be no downsides to any of this. 1.00

00:20:38.000 Again folks, this is not to argue that all Muslims are terrorists because that would again be so stupid and idiotic and no one in history has argued this. 1.00

00:20:47.000 This is not even to argue that if the only thing you know about someone is that they're a Muslim, that that person has to be a terrorist, because obviously that's idiotic. 1.00

00:20:54.000 What it is to argue is that if you are going to create a description of a suspect in Islamic terror, that person would have to be Muslim. 0.99

00:21:02.000 End of story.

00:21:03.000 And that has actual practical ramifications, like when you see two people come into the country and you don't even bother to check their background, and you don't bother to check where Tashfeen Malik was from, you don't bother to check the fact that she gave a fake address from Pakistan where she was from, you just assume she's going to be a good little American. 0.61

00:21:18.000 When you talk about importing 25,000 Syrian Muslim refugees and saying that everything is going to be hunky-dory, it'll all just be fine. 1.00

00:21:26.000 When you do this routine,

00:21:27.000 All you are doing is setting yourself up for a fall.

00:21:29.000 Not because the vast majority of people coming in want to commit terror, but because there will be some people who want to commit terror, and there will be others who are willing to be radicalized and on knife's edge.

00:21:39.000 Of course you have to look where the suspects are.

00:21:43.000 And if you don't, you're gonna get yourself in all sorts of trouble.

00:21:46.000 And again, what's the other side?

00:21:48.000 I mean, there seems to be this other side where if you have your wits about you, right?

00:21:52.000 And this is true across racial lines and religious lines and ethnic lines.

00:21:57.000 We profile for different types of crime in this country.

00:21:59.000 If you have a white guy who's driving around in South Central Los Angeles late at night, the police will pull him over for being white. 0.60

00:22:05.000 Right?

00:22:05.000 And the reason they'll pull him over for being white is because white guys driving around in South Central at night are probably there to purchase drugs.

00:22:11.000 They're not there just to take in the scenery.

00:22:13.000 They don't live there.

00:22:14.000 There are not a lot of white people who live in South Central Los Angeles.

00:22:17.000 Whenever you come up with a description of a suspect, and by the way, Israel does this all the time. 1.00

00:22:21.000 Israel has behavioral profiling.

00:22:23.000 This is how they do it.

00:22:24.000 And behavioral, and again, this is not having to do with your ideas or what's in your head, it has to do with your behavior.

00:22:29.000 If you reach out on Facebook to a terrorist group, if you attend a mosque that has terror ties, if you go to that mosque frequently that has terror ties, if you're having large groups of young men over to your apartment at odd hours of the night, and you go to a mosque with terror ties, and that mosque happens to be the place where you go five times a day,

00:22:46.000 And it turns out that you are posting on Facebook about how Jews are the worst and Israel is the worst and ISIS may have a point. 0.99

00:22:54.000 Maybe we ought to take you a little more seriously. 0.98

00:22:55.000 Does that seem out of the world to you?

00:22:57.000 That's not saying that we arrest the person, but it is saying you might want to keep an eye on them, right? 0.99

00:23:02.000 And if you don't keep an eye on it, how stupid do we have to be here? 0.98

00:23:05.000 How much do we have to frontally lobotomize ourselves for the purposes of political correctness? 0.99

00:23:10.000 How many indicators are we going to put to the side just because we don't wish to offend anyone?

00:23:15.000 And if you're a moderate Muslim, and you are somebody who goes to mosque often, wouldn't you be offended that your mosque was funded from abroad by people who want to commit terrorism?

00:23:24.000 Wouldn't it be a problem to you if people who are in your mosque or a group of people who are interested in committing terrorism, wouldn't you want to throw them out?

00:23:30.000 Donald Trump, very recently there was a guy who showed up at one of Donald Trump's rallies carrying a confederate flag.

00:23:35.000 Donald Trump had his security escort him out.

00:23:37.000 He understood this is bad optics.

00:23:39.000 He understood that you have to disassociate from people.

00:23:43.000 But when it comes to the left, you never have to disassociate from anybody.

00:23:47.000 Barack Obama didn't even have to disassociate from Jeremiah Wright.

00:23:50.000 For God's sake, Barack Obama launched his original congressional campaign in the home of domestic terrorist Bill Ayers.

00:23:56.000 No wonder he doesn't take terrorism particularly seriously.

00:23:59.000 No wonder he's willing to have us all frontally lobotomize ourselves.

00:24:02.000 It really is truly amazing.

00:24:05.000 And it's pervaded the media, too.

00:24:06.000 You can see the skepticism from that guy on Face the Nation toward Trump when Trump is saying, well, maybe we ought to look at some of the indicators here, not just that they're Muslim, but also things like coming from Saudi Arabia, things like her being essentially a mail-order bride coming back from Saudi Arabia with him, things like members of her family.

00:24:24.000 We're good.

00:24:32.000 It's so funny.

00:24:33.000 Always in retrospect, you see the red flags.

00:24:34.000 But the truth is that you only don't see the red flags if you don't want to see the red flags.

00:24:39.000 There are plenty of red flags here.

00:24:40.000 There almost always are.

00:24:41.000 It's just that we are so shy.

00:24:43.000 And we are.

00:24:43.000 And I understand the tendency to be shy.

00:24:45.000 I really do.

00:24:45.000 I understand this tendency.

00:24:47.000 My wife and I were in Israel around the time we got married, so about eight years ago.

00:24:51.000 And when we went to Israel for our wedding, one of the things that we were told is, when you get in a cab, make sure that you get in a cab driven by a Jew.

00:24:58.000 Because there have been cases in which people, Jews, young Jews, had gotten into cabs driven by Palestinians, and the Palestinians would drive them over to Palestinian areas, and they would be murdered.

00:25:06.000 Or kidnapped, as it actually happened.

00:25:08.000 So, my wife and I, we're driving around Jerusalem, or we're tooling around Jerusalem, and we need to grab a cab.

00:25:15.000 And so we grab a cab, and we open the cab,

00:25:18.000 And we get in, and it's hard to tell some Sephardic Jews from Arabs, because they're Jews from Arabic countries. 0.61

00:25:24.000 They look very similar.

00:25:24.000 So you get in the cab, and then we look up, and we see that the guy's name is clearly Arab.

00:25:28.000 I mean, this is clearly a Muslim guy.

00:25:30.000 It's Mohammed something. 1.00

00:25:31.000 And we turn to each other, and I remember this vividly.

00:25:34.000 We turn to each other, and we could see in each other, are we being xenophobic?

00:25:40.000 Or should we tell this guy to pull over?

00:25:43.000 Right?

00:25:43.000 Is it nasty?

00:25:44.000 Is it racist?

00:25:45.000 Is it Islamophobic if we decide to pull over?

00:25:48.000 And, we, and so I was sitting, I remember this, I was sitting next to the door, and I was thinking to myself, okay, if we get to a red light, and he starts to turn in the wrong direction, I'm pulling, I'm popping this door, and I'm hopping out immediately.

00:25:59.000 If I have to smash this window, like, I started thinking that way, so, now instead of me just saying to the guy, pull over, I'm thinking, okay, if I have to jump out of a moving car with my wife next to me, should I do, all in the name of political correctness, when the reality is, that if I want to be safe, what I do is I just say, pull over.

00:26:14.000 And what's the cost?

00:26:15.000 Okay, so the guy loses the fair.

00:26:17.000 But at least I don't lose my life, potentially.

00:26:19.000 And maybe I'm wrong.

00:26:21.000 And maybe I'm Islamophobic for doing that.

00:26:23.000 But I can guarantee you that the stories of people being driven to Palestinian areas and being murdered, those weren't stories. 0.82

00:26:29.000 The fact is, right now, Israel is under a spate of terrorist attacks by random Muslims chopping at people with knives.

00:26:36.000 Are we just supposed to pretend that doesn't exist if you're in Israel? 0.96

00:26:38.000 Are you supposed to pretend the little old lady on the other side of the street, the little old Jewess on the other side of the street, is just as much a threat as the middle-aged Muslim woman who's got her hand in her purse? 0.84

00:26:48.000 We all behaviorally profile.

00:26:49.000 It's part of risk aversion.

00:26:51.000 All of us do it.

00:26:52.000 We've been doing it since the beginning of time.

00:26:54.000 And we've tried to overcome it so that we don't treat people badly on an individual level for no reason.

00:27:01.000 But when you see a red flag, you have to say something.

00:27:03.000 Islam isn't the only red flag, but it puts you in the box of if there are more red flags, at least you've checked that initial box. 0.96

00:27:10.000 Because we're looking for, again, people who are more likely to commit terrorism, and Muslim terrorism is significantly more likely than Christian or Jewish terrorism. 0.97

00:27:19.000 This isn't a matter of hating Islam. 0.98

00:27:20.000 This is a matter of, what do Muslims do?

00:27:24.000 I don't know that much about Islam.

00:27:25.000 I've read the Quran.

00:27:26.000 That doesn't make me an expert.

00:27:28.000 I don't really care.

00:27:29.000 I'm not one of these people who feels the need to read verses of the Quran to prove that all of this is rooted in Islamic theology.

00:27:35.000 It makes no difference to me.

00:27:36.000 All that matters to me is the behavior of a group of people, and the behavior of the individuals within that group.

00:27:42.000 And if you are Muslim, and you never have any other ties to terror, 0.74

00:27:46.000 And you're never meeting with young Muslim men in your apartment? 0.74

00:27:49.000 And you're never ordering pipe bombs?

00:27:51.000 And you're never getting guns from your neighbors?

00:27:53.000 And you're never shooting people up?

00:27:55.000 I don't care about you.

00:27:56.000 You make no difference to my life.

00:27:58.000 But, you know, we have to create this alternative reality for ourselves.

00:28:02.000 And the media, by the way, are part of all of this.

00:28:04.000 If you believe that the media actually care about keeping you safe, you're out of your mind.

00:28:09.000 I saw the most insane thing that I've ever seen happen last Friday, talking about just the media incompetence and the media willingness to compromise your safety.

00:28:16.000 Last Friday, the media went to the apartment of Syed Farouk and Tashfeen Malik.

00:28:22.000 They went to the apartment. 0.99

00:28:24.000 And apparently they went up to the apartment and they asked the landlord could they have access to the apartment and he being an idiot said yes. 1.00

00:28:29.000 Okay, it's against California law. 1.00

00:28:30.000 You can't do this. 0.95

00:28:31.000 And so what then happened is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen on live television. 0.59

00:28:36.000 Here's what it looked like on live television when these reporters literally took a crowbar and broke into the apartment with the landlord's permission

00:28:43.000 And started rifling through evidence from the terrorist apartment, despoiling it, getting rid of fingerprints, getting rid of evidence that could actually have linked these terrorists to other terrorists, perhaps.

00:28:52.000 Here's what it looked like on MSNBC.

00:28:55.000 We can see some of the other items here.

00:28:57.000 I can kill the light.

00:28:59.000 Let me turn the light off. 0.97

00:29:00.000 There we go.

00:29:03.000 But I don't see anything really on the wall.

00:29:04.000 I want to take a look at the calendar and see if anything's marked on the calendar.

00:29:08.000 And I don't see anything.

00:29:09.000 That's November, so let's go to December.

00:29:13.000 Just see if anything of importance was marked on the calendar here.

00:29:17.000 And nothing there.

00:29:18.000 And it's just a typical sort of calendar with pictures.

00:29:21.000 Ah, now as I turn around here, I think I find something interesting.

00:29:24.000 As we look at the floor here, this is a prayer rug. 0.97

00:29:28.000 So this prayer rug here may have been, I'm not sure which way, but you would face it towards Mecca.

00:29:33.000 It's possible that that prayer rug has been left exactly in the position where it was.

00:29:39.000 What kind of computer equipment, Kerry?

00:29:43.000 Karen, can you take a look?

00:29:44.000 Wait a second.

00:29:45.000 Let me take you over here.

00:29:47.000 This is interesting.

00:29:48.000 Look in this bin.

00:29:49.000 Here you can see all types of things have been shredded.

00:29:55.000 The FBI must have decided that whatever was in here was not important.

00:30:00.000 Oh, they must have decided it!

00:30:01.000 Okay, let's stop it right there.

00:30:02.000 This goes on for ten minutes.

00:30:04.000 There were 70 people who rushed this apartment, including people who weren't even members of the media.

00:30:08.000 There's a report of a lady who literally just walked in with her dog.

00:30:11.000 Just walked into the apartment.

00:30:12.000 That's shredded documents from terrorists sitting right there, and now none of it can be used as evidence because you've had media members in there.

00:30:19.000 And if somebody messed around with the shredded documents, forget about being able to put them back together if any of the members of the media started filing through all of that.

00:30:26.000 It is truly amazing.

00:30:27.000 There's a legal expert on CNN.

00:30:28.000 He said this is the worst screw-up I've ever seen from the media.

00:30:32.000 In investigative history, this is the worst screw-up.

00:30:35.000 It's truly, it was amazing.

00:30:37.000 And watching this on live television and recognizing how little these people care about your safety.

00:30:42.000 These are the same people who are telling you that racial profiling and behavioral profiling, because racial profiling is really not what it's about.

00:30:48.000 There's no such thing.

00:30:50.000 Islam is not a race.

00:30:51.000 They're Muslims of every conceivable race.

00:30:53.000 It's not even religious profiling because it sort of depends on the brand of Islam that you're practicing.

00:30:57.000 And there are plenty of people who are born into Muslim families who are completely irreligious.

00:31:01.000 It is behavioral profiling, and behavioral profiling is something that everybody does.

00:31:05.000 And it is, in fact, birthplace profiling, because depending on where you're coming from, it may have more or less of an impact on your likelihood of being a terrorist, because even Muslim populations in London are not quite the same as Muslim populations from, for example, Syria.

00:31:19.000 Okay.

00:31:20.000 Now on to things that I hate.

00:31:22.000 Okay, so a couple of things that... I'm trying to think of something I like.

00:31:26.000 Something that I like.

00:31:27.000 Hmm.

00:31:27.000 Okay, so there's a very... I'll tell you what I'm enjoying right now.

00:31:32.000 I'm enjoying Arrow.

00:31:33.000 I like the show Arrow.

00:31:34.000 It's a fun show.

00:31:37.000 It still engages in the comic book conceit that you never kill the bad guys ever.

00:31:41.000 And that's just a way of bringing villains back.

00:31:43.000 If you never kill the villain, you never have to worry about writing a new villain.

00:31:46.000 But that's sort of irritating.

00:31:47.000 But the show itself is fun and well plotted, and it really is enjoyable.

00:31:52.000 So, if you get a chance, catch Arrow.

00:31:54.000 Go back, get it on Amazon or Netflix.

00:31:56.000 It's a lot of fun.

00:31:57.000 Okay, time for things that I hate.

00:31:58.000 Here we go.

00:32:00.000 Here's something that I hate.

00:32:01.000 So Taylor Swift is, to me, not a deeply talented person.

00:32:05.000 I know that there are people who just love Taylor Swift.

00:32:07.000 They worship at the altar of Taylor Swift.

00:32:09.000 She's so wonderful.

00:32:10.000 She's so beautiful.

00:32:11.000 She's so cutesy. 0.79

00:32:12.000 She's so... She's so clean.

00:32:14.000 I mean, this was her original thing, right?

00:32:16.000 Was that she was sort of the clean artist.

00:32:18.000 She wasn't the one who was... She wasn't Miley Cyrus.

00:32:20.000 She wasn't getting naked.

00:32:21.000 That wasn't her routine.

00:32:22.000 Her routine was really much more about, you know, being clean, and she would sing kind of these love songs, and they were...

00:32:28.000 Very basic things, you know, musically non-complex, but melodic.

00:32:33.000 I mean, she's not untalented.

00:32:35.000 She's a lot more talented than Miley Cyrus, which is not saying much. 0.76

00:32:37.000 I mean, that's like saying that you're more talented than a dog turd, but...

00:32:40.000 In any case, she is not an untalented person, but in the last couple of years she's really decided she's going to take ownership over her public image. 0.69

00:32:47.000 And the way that she did this is she launched her pop album, and on her pop album she sort of mixed up the whole nerdy white girl routine with, also I'm a little bit naughty. 0.68

00:32:56.000 And that was her new routine, was nerdy white girl who's a little bit naughty. 1.00

00:32:59.000 And so her entire album was a little bit naughty stuff. 0.90

00:33:02.000 And then she decided, I'm going to show that I'm really a Hollywood person.

00:33:06.000 And so I have a whole new slate of BFFs, right?

00:33:08.000 I have a bunch of people who I'm new best friends with, and they're all Hollywood.

00:33:12.000 And aren't we just cute?

00:33:13.000 Aren't we just cute?

00:33:14.000 Aren't we just fun?

00:33:16.000 And so here is, for example, here is Taylor Swift with, who is this, Blake Lively?

00:33:25.000 And they're jumping around.

00:33:26.000 Here she is with Blake Lively.

00:33:27.000 Oh, they're just best friends.

00:33:29.000 Isn't it cute?

00:33:30.000 That's not staged at all.

00:33:31.000 I don't know how many times they had to take that picture with a solid camera in order to get them both jumping at the same time.

00:33:36.000 But in any case, they're just best friends.

00:33:38.000 And that isn't her only best friend.

00:33:40.000 She's also best friends with Lena Dunham.

00:33:45.000 I don't think so.

00:34:02.000 The person who taps you on the shoulder and turns you into a magical feminist. 1.00

00:34:06.000 To get your feminine credibility in line, you have to go to the great pope of feminism, Lena Dunham, and she taps you on the shoulder, and you pretend to be friends with her, and she's your chubby friend, and then she tells you that you're a feminist. 1.00

00:34:19.000 Lena Dunham, by the way, is happy to do this for anyone, because she's so desperate for attention and love. 1.00

00:34:23.000 Right now she's hanging out with a cute girl, and she's the uggo, and Taylor Swift gets to 1.00

00:34:30.000 We're good to go.

00:34:49.000 Now, little secret, folks.

00:34:51.000 None of these people care about each other.

00:34:53.000 None of them spend any time together.

00:34:54.000 They have their own posses that they roll with.

00:34:56.000 There are very few people in Hollywood who actually hang out with other stars in Hollywood.

00:35:00.000 That's because most stars in Hollywood want to be seen as the star of the party. 1.00

00:35:04.000 If there's more than one star at the party, then your attention is divided.

00:35:07.000 If it's just Taylor Swift and a bunch of her hangers-on,

00:35:10.000 She gets to be popular. 0.98

00:35:24.000 extension of teenagehood.

00:35:26.000 It's also teenage-y.

00:35:28.000 I mean, it really is.

00:35:29.000 All these girls are in their mid-twenties. 0.90

00:35:30.000 I mean, most of these girls are edging toward thirty. 1.00

00:35:32.000 I mean, Lena Dunham, I believe, is twenty-eight years old.

00:35:35.000 How old's Taylor Swift now?

00:35:37.000 Twenty-five?

00:35:37.000 Twenty-six?

00:35:38.000 She's getting up there.

00:35:40.000 Jennifer Lawrence, same deal. 1.00

00:35:41.000 They're all young, obviously, but they're edging—I mean, that's not young-young.

00:35:44.000 That's not seventeen-young.

00:35:46.000 But it's all like, oh, we're gonna go to parties together, we love each other, and we hang out together, and we have our little parties, and we drink our- we drink our- our- our pathetic girly drinks on our little boats, and we jump off the boats together, and it's just like so much fun.

00:35:59.000 At what point do they mature?

00:36:01.000 And what's amazing is that because our society has said that nudity equals maturation, they are, of course, mature women.

00:36:06.000 Now, a real mature woman would be looking to, I don't know, get married and settle down and have a family at this point, but I know that's sexist. 1.00

00:36:12.000 By the way, I think a mature man is why it's not sexist.

00:36:15.000 I think a mature man would be looking to settle down and get married and have a family and become a responsible human being at this point. 0.99

00:36:20.000 I think if you're 30 years old and you're a man and you're not thinking of getting married, that's probably because you're a loser.

00:36:25.000 And the same thing is true of these women, but they're convincing a whole generation of women that the real fun to be had is with your girlfriends, listening to Taylor Swift songs. 0.98

00:36:34.000 Oh, we're broadening our audience, don't you see?

00:36:36.000 It's all part of the marketing machine.

00:36:38.000 The more single... Not a lot of married girls listen to Taylor Swift. 1.00

00:36:40.000 Not a ton of married women who are... That's not her chief audience. 1.00

00:36:43.000 Her chief audience is single girls.

00:36:44.000 The more single girls there are hearing about her angsty breakups with her latest dude, the better her crowd is. 1.00

00:36:50.000 So there it is, Things That I Hate.

00:36:52.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:36:52.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - December 08, 2015

Ep. 37 - Yes, Religious Profiling Is Necessary

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