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00:00:24.000Okay, so here we are, and it is indeed a Wednesday, and we have a lot to get to today.
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00:01:03.000Alright, so yesterday, it's become a big news story now.
00:01:06.000I spoke over at Otay Ranch High School near San Diego, and as I rode down there for a couple and a half hours, and I get to this school,
00:01:15.000Man, this had been scheduled by the Young America's Foundation, and Young America's Foundation is a wonderful organization.
00:01:21.000They had a local chapter at this high school, and it's a very left high school.
00:01:24.000A lot of the teachers are leftists, the administrators are leftists, and so the students wanted me to come and talk to all of their fellow high school students about the differences between conservatism
00:01:34.000And leftism, just like I do on the show every day.
00:01:37.000And I got a call about a week in advance from one of the administrators, and this administrator, who is also the Title IX applicator.
00:01:44.000There are all sorts of stupid titles at public schools, and this guy has one of them.
00:01:48.000I think his name is Dean Neferret, something like that.
00:01:50.000And Dean Neferret, he calls me up, and he wants to find out what I'm talking about.
00:01:57.000Happy, dappy, I'm good, you're okay, everybody's great, be a leader speeches.
00:02:01.000I'm going to actually talk about politics.
00:02:03.000We're going to talk about right versus left, and the differences in political ideology, and why Bernie Sanders is wrong, and why Ted Cruz is right, and all of this.
00:02:20.000I'm not going to get up there and talk about sex.
00:02:22.000I'm not going to do anything that is going to violate your standards and protocols, the ones that you've sent me.
00:02:27.000He says, okay, well, you know, the reason I'm calling and asking is because we've had to basically quash this event a couple of times because a bunch of teachers, and this time they found out a bunch of teachers were very upset about this.
00:02:57.000When I start talking about the differences between the left and the right, and basically the speech is about how the left's belief is that fairness of outcome is the only thing that matters in life.
00:03:07.000It doesn't matter what decisions that you make.
00:03:09.000The only thing that matters is that the outcome should always be equal.
00:03:13.000If I make a bunch of terrible decisions, and I don't get an education, and I'm a loser for most of my life, I should make the same amount of money as Bill Gates, no matter that I've never produced anything like Bill Gates produced.
00:03:22.000I should have the same amount of money.
00:03:24.000That's the left's idea of a just and good universe, and I explained why that's a bad idea, and why the left's idea is wrong, and the right's idea of equality of opportunity is correct, and that micromanaging people's lives in the name of equality is actually evil.
00:03:37.000So I do this for about half an hour, and then we start to go into Q&A.
00:03:40.000And one of the questions that I'm asked, in the Q&A, there should be a tape of it coming out pretty soon of the full speech, and it was pretty amusing.
00:03:47.000One of the teachers got up, clearly a very left guy, and he starts going into a diatribe, this is always the mistake, whenever you're in a vet gang,
00:03:56.000And somebody hands you the microphone.
00:03:57.000That is not a license for you to be the speaker.
00:03:59.000The speaker is the speaker, and you're the questioner.
00:04:03.000After about two and a half minutes, I said to him, is there a question mark at the end of this?
00:04:06.000And it's a high school, so all the kids go, ooooh.
00:04:09.000And it goes like this for about ten minutes.
00:04:12.000And finally, one of the students says, I just want you to explain why it is that Bernie Sanders' idea, isn't Bernie Sanders' idea right that you'll have a better economy and you'll help poor people if you take money from rich people and give it to poor people?
00:04:27.000If you want poor people not to be poor, you take money away from them, from the rich, and you give it to the poor people.
00:04:32.000Robin Hood, redistributionism, it'll be fantastic.
00:04:36.000If you've spread the wealth around, everybody's better off, as President Obama said.
00:04:40.000And so I gave my answer, and my answer was basically, no, that's not how it works.
00:04:44.000It turns out that in order for you to rise from poverty, you actually have to take correct action.
00:04:49.000And we have to train you to take correct action.
00:04:51.000This is why when you have poor people who win the lottery, a disproportionate share of those people end up going back to being poor afterwards because they blow through all of their money.
00:05:00.000And here is the tape of what happened next.
00:05:04.000And this is what's causing all the controversy.
00:05:07.000This is why if you have a bunch of people who win the lottery, disproportionately people who aren't poor and win the lottery end up poor again.
00:05:12.000The reason people are permanently poor in the United States is not because they don't have money.
00:05:17.000You can pause it right there for one second.
00:05:24.000So what I'm saying there, it's hard to hear a little bit because the audio quality is bad, but what I'm saying is exactly what I just said to you.
00:05:29.000Alright, what I said is lottery winners who are poor go back to being poor because they're bad with money.
00:05:34.000People who are permanently poor in the country, and I use the phrase permanently poor.
00:05:37.000If you're poor forever, if you're poor for 40 years in America, not temporarily, permanently.
00:05:41.000If you're permanently poor in America, unless you are disabled in some way and you can't work,
00:05:45.000Unless you're mentally diseased, you have a mental illness of some sort.
00:05:49.000The only reason you are permanently poor in the United States is because you suck with money.
00:09:03.000So the reason he dismisses the kids is because there are 450 kids there, about 250 of the kids signed up specifically to come to this, and then apparently about 200 of the kids, I found out afterward, there were teachers who wanted their kids to come here an opposing point of view.
00:09:28.000The way that this works is that if you are of a certain political bent, then you have an advantage.
00:09:33.000And so after all of these kids left, after all these kids left, I went ahead and I said, you know, sarcastically, I wish that I were a California state employee being paid by the taxpayer because then I could force you to stay here and listen to everything I say for the rest of the year.
00:09:48.000Because that's basically what happens on these campuses.
00:10:14.000If somebody said you don't have to come to this auditorium anymore, I'm out, right?
00:10:17.000And that's probably a lot of these students.
00:10:19.000After all, I'm sure that there's some place on campus they can go to smoke their pot and doodle about Bernie Sanders.
00:10:24.000So there's a lot going on in their lives.
00:10:25.000But beyond that, one of the things that I thought was kind of shocking about all of this is that there was a point in the speech where I was talking about
00:10:35.000I was talking about the fact that women are not paid less than men in American society when you get rid of all of the conflating factors, when you get rid of the fact that women work less than men, work less hours, less years, different positions, choose to take time off for their kids.
00:11:33.000They're living off Mommy and Daddy's paycheck, and yet they think that there are obstacles to them ever succeeding.
00:11:38.000And what really ticked off the administrator here, and what ticked off the students, is that I was saying to them, there are no obstacles to your success except for you.
00:11:45.000If you want to succeed in America, take control of your life.
00:11:47.000I actually said this in the speech, but what this administrator said, after he dismissed all these students, I said, so why is this happening?
00:11:54.000And he said, it's my job to protect the students.
00:11:57.000And he said, well, a lot of them in the back are children of low-income families, and they're offended.
00:12:03.000I said, well, you're not doing them any favors by coddling them from reality.
00:12:07.000And that is certainly true, because it turns out... But here's the deal.
00:12:11.000They're not doing the kids any favors, but they're doing the Democratic Party a lot of favors.
00:12:15.000Because when you tell poor people that the reason they're poor is not through bad decision-making, or because they need to keep their nose to the grindstone and work harder, when you tell them it's through exploitation and injustice in the American system, what you're saying is, vote Democrats so you can steal people's money.
00:12:30.000Democrats win by turning everybody into a victim of the system, as opposed to telling people, get out there and work your ass off and everything will basically be okay if you do that.
00:12:39.000And by the way, everything basically will be okay.
00:13:23.000And we weren't poor by any stretch of the imagination, but we certainly weren't rich.
00:13:27.000And we were probably middle-middle class at best when I was growing up.
00:13:32.000Okay, so that... and there's nothing wrong with that.
00:13:35.000It doesn't make me a better person, doesn't make me a worse person.
00:13:37.000Income level has nothing to say about who you are as a human being.
00:13:40.000Your decisions have something to say about who you are as a human being, and your wealth status tells you something about the kind of decisions that you made on the economic front.
00:13:49.000Which very often correlates with your decisions on the responsibility front.
00:13:53.000The more responsible you are in your life, the better the chance you're not going to be in permanent poverty.
00:13:59.000They have to be told that they're victims of evil, evil America.
00:14:02.000So, that's what happened at the high school yesterday.
00:14:04.000Okay, moving from that to the big topic of the day, and that of course continues to be Donald Trump's proposal on Muslim immigration.
00:14:11.000For those who missed it, yesterday I talked about racial profiling because I thought that it was important to lay the groundwork
00:14:18.000For what a good policy would look like.
00:14:21.000I don't think Trump's policy is a good policy.
00:14:22.000I've written about this at Daily Wire.
00:14:24.000I don't think that banning all Muslim immigration to the country is the proper answer to the danger of radical Islam.
00:14:31.000The reason I say that is because there are some Muslims who I think that we can vet.
00:14:35.000You know, if you have a Kurdish fighter who's in Iraq,
00:14:38.000And needs to escape for human rights reasons and is vouched for by members of the U.S.
00:14:41.000military who fought alongside him and killed bad guys alongside him, that I can live with.
00:14:45.000If we're talking about unvetted Muslim refugees from Syria, different story.
00:14:49.000I don't think it's completely impossible to vet people, in other words, for security background, whereas Trump apparently thinks that it is.
00:14:56.000That's an honest difference of opinion.
00:14:58.000I think that his policy of banning all Muslim immigration also doesn't answer what you do with the three million Muslims who are already here, right?
00:15:07.000What Muslim in the United States is going to help you, in terms of intelligence, gathering both domestically and on foreign affairs.
00:15:13.000That's my take on Trump's actual policy.
00:15:16.000But, as I said yesterday, religious profiling, religious behavior profiling, certain ideologies are more likely to breed terrorism than others.
00:15:24.000Any denial of that is a politically correct nonsense language.
00:15:28.000But this is where Trump is going to win on this issue.
00:15:31.000And the reason Trump is going to win on this issue in the public mind is not because he's right in his policy.
00:15:36.000It's because his enemies, as always, can't just restrict their criticism to the policy.
00:15:41.000They can't just restrict their criticism to, Trump is wrong on this.
00:15:44.000They can't just say, yeah, Donald Trump, he goes too far, but yeah, there's a threat of radical Islam that's better handled this way.
00:15:51.000No, it turns into everyone who could possibly support Donald Trump's proposal hates Muslims and is a bigot.
00:15:58.000Bigotry is saying that no Muslim is capable of being westernized.
00:16:02.000Okay, that's bigotry to say that no Muslim biologically for some brain reason is capable of being westernized or living in peace and harmony in the West.
00:16:38.000I think the reason Trump did this is not necessarily because he deeply believes it, although I'm sure right now he does.
00:16:43.000As I've said, I think that every time Trump says anything, he believes it at the time he says it.
00:16:48.000But the reason that Trump is pushing it out now is because he started to lose to Ted Cruz in Iowa.
00:16:52.000So now he has to get back in the headlines, and obviously he's done that, because every headline is now Donald Trump.
00:16:57.000Here is Trump announcing his policy the other night in South Carolina.
00:17:00.000Donald J. Trump is calling for — now, listen, you've got to listen to this one, because this is pretty — pretty heavy stuff, and it's common sense, and we have to do it.
00:17:08.000Remember the poll numbers — 25 percent, 51 percent.
00:17:38.000And you can see everybody is very enthused about all of this because they feel rightly that the government is incompetent and they feel rightly that radical Islam is a threat.
00:17:47.000And they don't believe all this stuff about Islam not having to do with radical Islam.
00:19:07.000I know how to make America great again.
00:19:08.000This is about making America great again.
00:19:12.000Okay, so first of all, the reason I'm laughing is because when he says, are you a bigot?
00:19:16.000And he says, not only am I not a bigot, I'm the least bigoted person you've ever met in your entire life.
00:19:22.000Mother Teresa had nothing on Donald Trump.
00:19:24.000Martin Luther King, nothing on Donald Trump.
00:19:26.000He is the least bigoted person you've ever even heard of, you've ever conceived of.
00:19:29.000If you could imagine a not bigoted person, he would look exactly like Donald Trump and his funny head and his weird hair and the whole deal.
00:19:37.000And, you know, again, I don't have evidence that Donald Trump is a bigot based on him saying that radical Islam is a problem and he doesn't trust the government to vet people.
00:19:45.000I mean, the fact is that Ted Cruz and Rand Paul say the same thing.
00:19:48.000They just have a limited level of trust in vetting Muslim immigrants.
00:19:51.000They say it's going to be easier to vet Muslim immigrants from Canada or Britain or France than it is to vet Muslim immigrants from Syria or Libya or terror-linked countries.
00:20:01.000I in fact would suggest that there are certain countries where we should be careful of immigration from those countries, including France.
00:20:09.000I think that France has shown that Muslim immigrants to France, a significant percentage of them are in support of terrorism.
00:20:16.000But I disagree with the total Muslim ban for the reasons that I've just explained.
00:20:21.000And what I would say instead of a total Muslim ban is I would say that we have a basic ideological ban that spans all religions.
00:20:26.000And spans all philosophies, and the basic ideological ban is do you agree with freedom of speech?
00:20:30.000Do you believe that the government should prosecute people for drawing religious figures, for example?
00:20:35.000Do you believe that violence is justified if somebody says something to you?
00:20:38.000This, by the way, would probably get rid of half the leftists in America if we actually applied this ideological ban, but I believe that you should have to have a certain ideology
00:20:46.000That agrees with America's founding principles in order to enter the country.
00:20:49.000I don't think everyone has a right to enter America.
00:20:51.000America gets to choose who it lets in, and Muslim, not Muslim, makes less of a difference to me than what you believe.
00:20:58.000And so we should screen along ideological lines.
00:21:00.000Whether you believe that Muhammad ascended to heaven on a horse from Jerusalem, or whether you believe that, you know, that God came down and gave the Torah on Mount Sinai,
00:21:09.000Your specific religious beliefs make no difference to me.
00:21:11.000It's your ideological, philosophical beliefs about the nature of man and the nature of government that matter a lot more to me than your specific ritualistic beliefs about the nature of revelation.
00:21:21.000Now, is it true that disproportionately Islam is going to produce people who are not in line with Western values?
00:21:27.000Yeah, because Islam is not a Western religion.
00:21:29.000Because Westernism springs from a Judeo-Christian heritage.
00:21:47.000I know the left wants to suggest there are not, but there are.
00:21:49.000Okay, so, meanwhile, I will say that there is one aspect of the Trump campaign that sounded a lot more like bigotry, and that was this thing that happened on CNN.
00:21:58.000Katrina Pearson is the spokesperson for Donald Trump, and she was on CNN, and she was asked about Donald Trump's Muslim ban, and here's what it sounded like.
00:22:39.000But it is, Essie, simply because you have people coming across through the refugee system and the visa system, including the woman that came in San Bernardino on a visa system, as well as some of the 9-11 hijackers.
00:22:51.000We have to put a pause to figure out how we can better vet these people.
00:22:55.000Okay, so what they're Muslim is the line that seems to cross the line, right?
00:22:57.000I mean that's that's where it's not just so what they're Muslims also are human beings I mean, this is this is where the this is where she crosses over the line, right?
00:23:06.000But I haven't seen Trump say anything like that.
00:23:08.000I've seen Katrina Pearson say something like that.
00:23:10.000I'll accuse that comment of being a racist comment, not even a racist, a religious-phobe comment, but I'm not going to accuse Trump of it because, maybe the Trump campaign, maybe, but not Trump himself, at least from what he has personally said and not based on the policy that he has suggested.
00:23:27.000What's truly irritating to me, and there have been a bunch of people on the left who have suggested that Trump's policy is unconstitutional.
00:23:59.000FDR took American citizens and put them in internment camps, and the Supreme Court gave that the green light.
00:24:04.000So the Constitution really has nothing to say about whether it's a good policy or not.
00:24:09.000The Constitution is not the answer here.
00:24:11.000The answer is whether it's a good policy or not.
00:24:13.000But the part that annoys me is the idea that 65, poll today, 64% of Americans on the right, 64% of likely Republican voters agree with Trump's proposal.
00:24:41.000Islamophobia is really just a way to say shut up, in the same way that when people on the left say racist, what they really mean is shut up.
00:24:48.000Islamophobia, we have a good reason to be scared of radical Islam, and we have a good reason to ask questions about the relationship between radical Islam and normal Islam, or moderate Islam, if you want to put it that way.
00:25:00.000There are good reasons to ask those questions.
00:25:04.000What's kind of crazy, so here's how the left defines Islamophobia.
00:25:07.000Let's give a definition of the left's view of Islamophobia.
00:25:12.000The University of California at Berkeley, Center for Race and Gender Studies, which is about as left as you're going to get, they define Islamophobia
00:25:21.000First of all, you can have rational fear of Islam.
00:25:23.000It's possible for that to happen, right?
00:25:25.000There's a rational fear of radical Islam at the very least, or what relationship there is between Islam and radical Islam.
00:25:31.000They say that Islamophobia is based on, quote, prevailing attitudes that incorporate beliefs such as, quote, Islam does not share common values with other major faiths.
00:25:39.000That's Islamophobic if you believe that.
00:25:41.000That Islam doesn't share common values with other major faiths.
00:26:13.000We agree the first book is good, and Jesus was drawing heavily from the first book, even if you believe that everything that Jesus said was gospel truth, right?
00:26:20.000If you believe that, then Jesus came not to change a jot or tittle, gang.
00:26:24.000So Judeo-Christianity has a common spring, right?
00:26:45.000So, Buddhism doesn't have the same set of values as Judeo-Christianity, which is why Buddhism and Buddhist civilization didn't develop the way Judeo-Christian civilization did.
00:26:53.000Of course Islam doesn't share common values with other major faiths.
00:27:09.000By every available measure, it is inferior to the West.
00:27:11.000And if you don't believe that, go live there.
00:27:13.000If you think it's better over there, by all means, get a plane ticket.
00:27:16.000And if you look at Afghanistan, or Iraq, or hell, even more modernized countries like Indonesia, compare those to the United States, and they are archaic, and barbaric, and irrational in the ways that those countries are governed.
00:27:27.000You say that, if you believe Islam is a religion of violence and supports terrorism, then this is somehow Islamophobic.
00:27:35.000As I've said before, I'm not a fan of, we're gonna read verses from the Quran, but there's plenty in there, at the very least, that supports violence.
00:27:42.000And they say, Islam is a violent political ideology.
00:27:44.000All of Islam may not be a violent political ideology, but there are certainly swaths of Islam that are, are there not?
00:27:49.000But all of this is Islamophobic, and this is the problem that I have.
00:28:25.000What was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for, and more importantly, it's not what this country stands for.
00:28:34.000Not only are there many Muslims serving in our armed forces, dying for this country, there are Muslims serving right here in the House, working every day to uphold and to defend the Constitution.
00:28:46.000Some of our best and biggest allies in this struggle and fight against radical Islamic terror are Muslims.
00:28:54.000The vast, vast, vast, vast majority of whom are peaceful, who believe in pluralism, freedom, democracy.
00:29:02.000Okay, this is where he's off the rails, okay.
00:29:05.000I told our members this morning to always drive... We can stop it there because that's the point.
00:29:08.000Once you get to Paul Ryan explaining to you
00:30:48.000Again, you can disagree with him to suggest that Donald Trump
00:30:51.000And more importantly, I don't even care about Trump, that everybody who is worried about the threat of radical Islam must be an Islamophobe, and if you like Donald Trump's policy, that that is not a reflection of irrationality, it's more a reflection of something else.
00:31:11.000People are rationally afraid of radical Islam, and they're buying into an irrational policy because they have a rational fear of radical Islam.
00:31:18.000That is not the same as saying that people are bigots and racist and terrible.
00:32:19.000So that she can be seen as forward-looking and forward-leaning, and we ripped on Taylor Swift yesterday, so we won't rip on Taylor Swift today.
00:32:27.000But, Kendrick Lamar, I'll be honest with you, I'd never really heard anything that Kendrick Lamar had ever done, or if I'd heard it, I hadn't identified it as his.
00:32:35.000There's one video that's now been nominated for Best Music Video, and it's called All Right.
00:32:40.000And we need to play some of this, because this just shows you where the head of the left is, and it's...
00:33:52.000I was trying to convince myself the stripes I got.
00:33:53.000Making myself realize what my foundation was.
00:34:18.000But while my loved ones was fighting a continuous war back in the city, I was entering a new one.
00:34:25.000A war that was based on apartheid and discrimination.
00:34:34.000Okay, so we've got a black guy, or a person of color, who is put down on the floor, and then he breaks away from a cop who's trying to contain him, and he runs.
00:34:44.000Okay, so, what's gonna happen in this music video, eventually, is that Kendrick Lamar, at one point, he starts floating into the sky, and he ends up being shot by a cop.
00:35:21.000Uh, how he is going to shoot guns, and he's going to go after women's lady parts, but that's not the words that he used, and it just continues along this line.
00:35:31.000He talks, and then he talks about how, uh, what do you want?
00:35:34.000A house or a car, 40 acres and a mule, a piano, a guitar, anything.
00:35:37.000See, my name is Lucy, I'm a dog, MF-er, you can live at the mall, I can see the evil, I can tell it, I know when it's illegal.
00:35:43.000I don't think about it, I deposit every other zero.
00:35:46.000Thinking of my partner, put the candy, paint it on the regal.
00:35:48.000I don't even know what he's talking about here.
00:35:50.000This is all nonsensical rhyming, but what you get from the video, and if you actually watch the entire video, which we don't have time to do here, but if you actually watch the entire video, the entire thing is, as a black man in America, you are put down, and that's why people riot, and that's why people are unsatisfied, and white cops shoot black people, that is the premise of this video.
00:36:09.000This is the most nominated video at the Grammys.
00:36:11.000By a bunch of white people, by the way, because the people who vote for the Grammys are disproportionately white.
00:36:16.000It's a bunch of upper-class white people living in Hollywood who vote for the Grammys.
00:36:19.000And this makes them feel special, because it makes them feel like they're doing something for the impoverished inner-city youths.
00:36:26.000You know what they need more of in the inner city?
00:36:28.000They need less of this garbage, and what they need more of is cops in the inner city who actually protect private property rights, which makes it safe for investment, which makes it safe for jobs, which makes it safe for money to be invested in the crappy public schools, which makes it safe to raise your kids.
00:36:43.000But that's not what our culture pushes, because if you're seen as someone who fights the man, if you're seen as someone who fights the prevailing culture, then that makes you a hero, like Kendrick Lamar.
00:36:52.000Even though the stuff—I mean, it's just, first of all, the music is garbage, the message is garbage, but it makes you a special human being if you fight the prevailing wisdom.
00:37:11.000Because the minute the kids actually realize, hey, wait a second, I'm in control of my own life, they don't need the government anymore.
00:37:17.000And suddenly, they're actual individuals with the capacity for agency and free will.
00:37:22.000And that doesn't fit the leftist model.
00:37:24.000So instead, we'll just get more videos like this, and we'll get more culture like this created by the left for the purpose of creating more leftists.