The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 42 - Republican Debate Review: Trump vs. Jeb, The Death Match

00:00:00.000 So, here we are.

00:00:01.000 It is the day after the big Republican debate, and we will break it all down for you.

00:00:05.000 Plus, I get in a Twitter war with Patton Oswalt.

00:00:07.000 If you don't know him, he's the short, fat guy who does the voice of the Rat in Ratatouille.

00:00:11.000 I'll explain why that's important in our Things I Hate segment.

00:00:14.000 Plus, Miley Cyrus will make a very special appearance that will leave you gagging. 0.53

00:00:18.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:18.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:26.000 All right, so here we are, and it is the day after the big Republican debate, and let me just say this.

00:00:31.000 Donald Trump ended up the victor.

00:00:32.000 I can give my quick debate grades here and go through all the candidates, even though only a few of them are relevant.

00:00:38.000 Donald Trump gets an A. The reason that Donald Trump did well last night is because Donald Trump is, as I've always said, a hammer in search of a nail.

00:00:44.000 He found more nails than puppies last night.

00:00:46.000 And meanwhile, 0.95

00:00:48.000 Rubio, Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz were busy slapping at each other, and Chris Christie was busy slapping at Rand Paul, and Rand Paul was busy slapping at Marco Rubio, and John Kasich was busy being the most self-important, obnoxious windbag anybody's ever met.

00:01:01.000 So no one cares about John Kasich, and no one knows why he's there, aside from doing the karate chop hands and just raging against the machine.

00:01:07.000 So there's a lot to get to here, but the only thing that really matters is that nothing really touched Trump.

00:01:13.000 Nothing touched Trump.

00:01:14.000 There were so many opportunities for someone to go after Trump,

00:01:17.000 Nobody did it.

00:01:17.000 The only person who went after Trump at all was Jeb Bush, and that ended extraordinarily poorly for Jeb Bush, as we will get to in just a moment.

00:01:25.000 So Trump gets an A. I gave Ted Cruz a B. He should have done better.

00:01:29.000 He didn't do as well because he got drawn into these long exchanges with Marco Rubio that we'll talk about.

00:01:34.000 Rubio, I gave a C, and that's because Rubio's always smooth, but that smoothness is a problem for him because

00:01:40.000 If you're sort of the white knight in shining armor, for lack of a better term, and you're the guy who can't be touched, you're the brand new car, fresh off the lot, the scratch, the dent on you looks a lot bigger than the guy who's been through the mill a couple of times like Ted Cruz.

00:01:53.000 So the fact that Rubio actually got hit in the face a couple of times last night by Rand Paul and by Ted Cruz and by Donald Trump,

00:02:01.000 He lost a little bit of the sheen, and so that was not good for him, which in turn means that Chris Christie did better than he was supposed to do.

00:02:08.000 I gave him a C also.

00:02:09.000 I didn't think he was great by any stretch of the imagination, but he was helped by the fact that everyone was attacking Rubio.

00:02:15.000 Rand Paul had a good debate, mainly because he served as a tool to whack at Marco Rubio, and he did so quite effectively, actually, on the Gang of Eight immigration bill, which, for some reason, Rubio had been able to escape up till now in the debate.

00:02:27.000 Again,

00:02:28.000 For all of this, Donald Trump is just sitting off to the side of the room and laughing and laughing and chortling like the fat lion that he is.

00:02:36.000 And eventually, Jeb Bush tries to prod him with a stick and that prompts all the entertainment value.

00:02:40.000 So let's go through this a little bit.

00:02:42.000 Let's start with clip one.

00:02:43.000 There was the early debate.

00:02:44.000 The early debate was a bunch of known names as Lindsey Graham and George Pataki and Rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee, who will probably drop out.

00:02:51.000 His support will probably go to Ted Cruz.

00:02:53.000 Lindsey Graham represents a wing of the party that is sort of the anti-Donald Trump on foreign policy.

00:02:58.000 And that is, we're really hardcore on security.

00:03:01.000 We will get involved in foreign entanglements. 1.00

00:03:03.000 We're good to go.

00:03:19.000 But he's just so irritating, there's no way to contain it.

00:03:21.000 So here's Lindsey Graham, the senator from South Carolina, being wildly irritating and looking more and more, as always, like that guy from Jabba the Hutt's palace, you know, the guy with the big tentacle around his neck, and that's sort of what Lindsey Graham looks like. 0.99

00:03:33.000 So here we go, Lindsey Graham, the senator from South Carolina.

00:03:36.000 Donald Trump has done the one single thing you cannot do.

00:03:40.000 Declare war on Islam itself. 0.96

00:03:43.000 ISIL would be dancing in the streets, they just don't believe in dancing.

00:03:47.000 This is a coup for them and to all of our Muslim friends throughout the world, like the King of Jordan and the President of Egypt.

00:03:57.000 I am sorry he does not represent us.

00:04:01.000 If I am president, we will work together.

00:04:03.000 People in the faith, through all over the world, destroy this radical ideology.

00:04:08.000 Declaring war on the religion only helps ISIL.

00:04:13.000 Okay, so he's apologizing to all the Muslims all over the world.

00:04:15.000 First of all, General El-Sisi in Egypt has called for a reformation inside Islam.

00:04:19.000 So it's not just Trump and others who've been calling for this.

00:04:22.000 This sort of language does not endear Lindsey Graham to millions.

00:04:25.000 But Lindsey Graham doesn't really matter much. 0.91

00:04:26.000 Let's get on to the main debate.

00:04:28.000 So the main debate is basically, as I say, Trump winning.

00:04:33.000 And Trump's candidacy is basically a combination of two slogans at this point.

00:04:38.000 F all y'all and

00:04:40.000 So, those are basically his slogans, right? 0.99

00:04:44.000 It's F all you all, meaning you attack me, I'm gonna attack you.

00:04:47.000 I don't really think about these policies too deeply, but I'm gonna give you my knee-jerk response, and at least you know they're sincere that way, because I haven't thought them out.

00:04:55.000 That means they're sincere.

00:04:56.000 And also, if you attack me with something, I might also say, so what?

00:05:01.000 Right, okay, so that's sort of been Donald Trump's response to everything bad about him.

00:05:06.000 So you're going to call me an Islamophobe, so?

00:05:08.000 So you're going to say I'm corrupt, so?

00:05:10.000 So you're going to say that I have a bad personal life, or I'm a racist, so?

00:05:15.000 And it's an effective tactic because once you say so, there's really no response to it.

00:05:20.000 Well, this comes up when Trump and Jeb go at each other.

00:05:24.000 So Jeb, somebody told Jeb Bush before this debate, Jeb Bush has spent $35 million at this point to get to 2%, 3% nationally in the polls.

00:05:32.000 He's trailing heavily in Iowa and New Hampshire.

00:05:34.000 And this is the exchange where, every debate comes down to moments, right?

00:05:38.000 Nobody remembers the entire two-hour debate.

00:05:40.000 What people remember are specific moments.

00:05:42.000 This was the most memorable portion of the debate because Jeb decided the only way he was gonna be able to overcome his Jeb-ness

00:05:48.000 Which is to say the fact that he's drab and boring and just milquetoast.

00:05:52.000 The only way to overcome that was to go after Donald Trump.

00:05:55.000 Now this has ended poorly before for Jeb.

00:05:57.000 If you remember the previous debates, usually it started with Jeb saying something to Trump like, I want you to apologize to my wife.

00:06:03.000 And Trump going, No.

00:06:06.000 And then Jeb going,

00:06:08.000 Okay.

00:06:09.000 And then that's the exchange, and Jeb looks weak.

00:06:11.000 Well, Jeb this time wasn't gonna back down.

00:06:13.000 And the problem is, this is what Trump is best at.

00:06:16.000 Okay, people act like Trump has no talent at this whatsoever.

00:06:18.000 Trump has some talent.

00:06:20.000 He's good at the things he was good at on The Apprentice, which is throwing insults at people and taking them by the back of the head and smacking their face into a table.

00:06:28.000 And that's basically what he does with Jeb Bush.

00:06:30.000 I mean, this is a reenactment of the scene from the Jimmy Cagney movie, where Jimmy Cagney is playing a gangster and he takes a grapefruit and smashes it in his girlfriend's face.

00:06:38.000 That's basically what this exchange is.

00:06:40.000 You're gonna see Jeb Bush start to get a little bit uppity with Donald Trump, trying to prove how tough he is, and Donald Trump just take an enormous Trump dump all over Jeb Bush.

00:06:49.000 It really gets ugly.

00:06:50.000 There are two segments to this exchange.

00:06:52.000 We'll play both.

00:06:53.000 Here is Jeb going after Trump.

00:06:55.000 We need toughness.

00:06:57.000 Honestly, I think Jeb is a very nice person.

00:06:59.000 He's a very nice person.

00:07:00.000 But we need tough people.

00:07:01.000 We need toughness.

00:07:03.000 We need intelligence, and we need tough.

00:07:05.000 Jeb said when they come across the southern border, they come as an act of love.

00:07:08.000 You said in September 30th that ISIS was not a factor.

00:07:11.000 Am I talking or are you talking?

00:07:13.000 I'm talking right now.

00:07:14.000 I'm talking.

00:07:15.000 You can go back.

00:07:16.000 You're not talking.

00:07:17.000 You interrupted me, Jeb.

00:07:18.000 September 30th, you said it.

00:07:18.000 Are you going to apologize, Jeb?

00:07:19.000 No.

00:07:20.000 Am I allowed to finish?

00:07:21.000 Yes, one at a time.

00:07:22.000 Excuse me, am I allowed to finish?

00:07:24.000 Go ahead, Mr. Trump.

00:07:25.000 So, again, I know you're trying to build up your energy, Jeb, but it's not working very well.

00:07:32.000 With Jeb's attitude, we will never be great again.

00:07:35.000 That I can tell you.

00:07:36.000 We will never be great.

00:07:37.000 Okay, so, you know, they go at each other here, and you can see Jeb is desperately trying to grab a little bit, just a little bit of that Trump buff mystique. 0.74

00:07:48.000 You know, the whole fat lion mystique I've talked about before, where he kind of sits there and he's all lazy, and then you poke him and he eats your face.

00:07:54.000 Okay, the second part of this exchange, that was bad enough for Jeb.

00:07:57.000 The second part of this exchange is where Trump really tires of Jeb, and then just guts him like an animal on the prairies of Hoth, and then lives inside his body.

00:08:06.000 It's really, what's it called, the gun guy?

00:08:08.000 That's basically what he does to Jeb Bush right here, and it's ugly for Jeb Bush.

00:08:14.000 This is a tough business to run for president.

00:08:16.000 Oh, I know.

00:08:17.000 You're a tough guy, Jeb.

00:08:17.000 I know.

00:08:18.000 And we need to have a leader that is professional.

00:08:20.000 Real tough.

00:08:20.000 You're never going to be president of the United States by insulting your way to the presidency.

00:08:24.000 You're real tough, Jeb.

00:08:24.000 Yeah?

00:08:25.000 Well, let's see.

00:08:25.000 I'm at 42, and you're at 3.

00:08:26.000 So, so far, I'm doing better.

00:08:27.000 Doesn't matter.

00:08:27.000 So far, I'm doing better.

00:08:29.000 You know, you started off over here, Jeb.

00:08:31.000 You're moving over further and further.

00:08:33.000 Pretty soon, you're going to be off the end.

00:08:34.000 Don't lose your temper, Jeb.

00:08:35.000 This doesn't do a thing to us.

00:08:38.000 It doesn't do a thing to us all around.

00:08:40.000 I think so. 0.87

00:09:00.000 Take Jeb Bush's hand and hit Jeb Bush in the face with his own hand repeatedly.

00:09:04.000 Because, I'm sorry, but when you claim that you're the tough guy and then Donald Trump pummels you that way, it just makes Trump look tougher.

00:09:10.000 And that's, of course, what people are going to remember about this.

00:09:12.000 And there are people who revel in this.

00:09:14.000 It's wildly entertaining.

00:09:16.000 People sort of want to see Trump do this to Hillary Clinton, right?

00:09:18.000 They want to see Hillary Clinton get tough with Trump and then see Trump just take a kitchen sink and hit her with it.

00:09:24.000 I mean, it reminds me of a story where

00:09:29.000 Well, it's slightly lewd, but we can tell it.

00:09:31.000 So when I was in law school, I was playing poker with a guy from law school, and he was talking about how he had been trolling Craigslist for girls.

00:09:39.000 And he said that he had invited this girl over, and in the midst of their intimacy, she started yelling at him that she wanted to be hit, and he did not know what to do.

00:09:48.000 And so she says, hit me, and he didn't know what to do.

00:09:50.000 And she says, hit me, and he didn't know what to do. 0.68

00:09:52.000 And she says, hit me, and so he grabbed a toaster and hit her in the face with it.

00:09:55.000 And that's basically Donald Trump.

00:09:57.000 And that's basically Donald Trump here.

00:10:00.000 You just don't know what he's gonna do. 0.81

00:10:02.000 And eventually, if you beg the question too many times, you will take the toaster and hit somebody in the face with it.

00:10:07.000 And it may be egregious, and it may be brutal, and it's also wildly entertaining.

00:10:11.000 So, you know, Jeb tried to slap at Trump.

00:10:14.000 It failed.

00:10:14.000 And so Trump elevates himself by slapping at Jeb.

00:10:16.000 People don't understand, on the establishment right, why people dislike Jeb so much.

00:10:20.000 It's because his last name is Bush, and because he seems weak.

00:10:22.000 It's those two things.

00:10:23.000 It really is.

00:10:24.000 It has nothing to do with Common Core or immigration. 0.84

00:10:26.000 It has to do with his last name is Bush and he seems like a weakling.

00:10:30.000 And we don't want a weakling this time around.

00:10:32.000 That's really what the Trump vs. Bush feud is about.

00:10:34.000 So Trump does well on that.

00:10:36.000 The other part of the debate that was crucial, there were really only two parts that were crucial.

00:10:40.000 The other part of the debate that was crucial was the attack on Marco Rubio.

00:10:44.000 So in order for Rubio to win,

00:10:46.000 He needs to consolidate support from Chris Christie.

00:10:48.000 He needs to consolidate support from John Kasich.

00:10:51.000 He needs to take Jeb Bush's support, particularly in New Hampshire.

00:10:54.000 Right now, Rubio has a very, very narrow pathway to victory.

00:10:57.000 He's not going to win Iowa.

00:10:58.000 He sort of has to win New Hampshire.

00:11:00.000 If he doesn't win New Hampshire, and let's say Trump wins New Hampshire.

00:11:03.000 So let's say Trump wins New Hampshire and Cruz wins Iowa.

00:11:05.000 Now we go to South Carolina.

00:11:06.000 In South Carolina, either Cruz or Trump will win, likely Trump by the latest polls.

00:11:10.000 Then, we don't go to Florida from there.

00:11:12.000 There are another 24 primaries before we get to Florida, which is where Rubio is sort of wanting to make his last stand.

00:11:18.000 Now, if you remember the Florida-as-last-stand strategy, this was last tried by President Rudy Giuliani, right?

00:11:24.000 And as the name President Rudy Giuliani would suggest, never happened.

00:11:27.000 It didn't work out.

00:11:28.000 So if Rubio thinks that he's going to build momentum over the course of a lot of primaries, it's not going to happen.

00:11:33.000 He needs other people to drop out.

00:11:34.000 Last night, everyone went after Rubio.

00:11:37.000 In ways that Rubio kind of deserved to be gone after on policy.

00:11:40.000 I mean, he really was hit hard on policy, and it was ugly.

00:11:43.000 So, we can go to clip five here.

00:11:44.000 Rand Paul bashed Marco Rubio on immigration.

00:11:47.000 It's kind of astonishing that Rubio had not been hit on immigration up till now, but it was not a good showing for Marco Rubio right here.

00:11:54.000 We need more security.

00:11:55.000 We need more scrutiny.

00:11:57.000 Once again, Marco opposed this.

00:11:59.000 So Marco can't have it both ways.

00:12:00.000 He thinks he wants to be this, oh, I'm great and strong on national defense.

00:12:04.000 But he's the weakest of all the candidates on immigration.

00:12:07.000 He is the one for an open border that is leaving us defenseless.

00:12:10.000 If we want to defend the country, we have to defend against those who are coming in. 1.00

00:12:13.000 And Marco has more of an allegiance to Chuck Schumer and to the liberals than he does to conservative policy.

00:12:20.000 And there's the uncomfortable smile from Rubio.

00:12:22.000 And it was a good moment for Rand Paul and not a good moment for Marco Rubio when this happens because the Gang of Eight is the skeleton in Marco Rubio's closet.

00:12:30.000 It's his only major legislative achievement.

00:12:32.000 He really hasn't done a lot else in the Senate.

00:12:34.000 And so this really hurt Marco Rubio pretty badly.

00:12:38.000 Now the only thing that saved Marco Rubio is that Rubio then tried to tie himself to Cruz on immigration and Cruz had his worst moment.

00:12:44.000 So Cruz's worst moment came when Cruz was trying to explain his own immigration policy and at one point, we don't have the clip, but there was one point where Cruz was asked about his immigration policy and Cruz

00:12:55.000 Actually said that he did not intend to legalize illegal immigrants now that as a lawyer That's legal language once you say do not intend that means well might happen

00:13:05.000 But people don't want to hear it might happen that you're going to legalize all of these illegal immigrants. 0.97

00:13:08.000 So that was a poor movement for Cruz.

00:13:10.000 It could have been a big night for Cruz.

00:13:12.000 It ended up being kind of a mediocre night for Cruz, which means a big night for Donald Trump.

00:13:16.000 But Cruz and Rubio went out at a fair bit and it got very wonkish, but a lot of this stuff is actually pretty important.

00:13:21.000 So here is Cruz versus Rubio on the collection of phone records, for example.

00:13:27.000 I don't

00:13:45.000 Let me be very careful in answering this because I don't think national television in front of 15 million people is the place to discuss classified information.

00:13:55.000 So let me just be very clear.

00:13:57.000 There is nothing that we are allowed to do under this bill that we could not do before.

00:14:14.000 This bill did, however, take away a valuable tool that allowed the National Security Agency and other intelligence agencies to quickly and rapidly access phone records and match them up with other phone records to see who terrorists have been calling.

00:14:29.000 Because I promise you, the next time there is an attack on this country,

00:14:33.000 The first thing people are going to want to know is why didn't we know about it and why didn't we stop it?

00:14:37.000 And the answer better not be because we didn't have access to records or information that would have allowed us to identify these killers before they attacked us.

00:14:46.000 So this is actually a better moment for Rubio.

00:14:49.000 Now, the fact is that what Rubio is saying here on the USA Patriot Act is not actually true.

00:14:53.000 According to Mike Lee, who's one of the sponsors of that act, there were certain powers of the federal government to check out terrorism that were expanded under the new version of the USA Freedom Act, is what they call it.

00:15:03.000 It was sort of a replacement for the Patriot Act.

00:15:05.000 And so it's an interesting debate.

00:15:08.000 But it underscores the fact that the debates between Rubio and Cruz are basically minutia, except for foreign policy.

00:15:14.000 When it comes to foreign policy, this is really where the gap opens wide.

00:15:19.000 And last night you saw it.

00:15:20.000 So basically, Trump and Cruz are sort of in the middle on foreign policy.

00:15:26.000 You've got Rand Paul off on the isolationist end, and you've got Marco Rubio in the interventionist sector of the Republican Party.

00:15:32.000 Marco Rubio says we should have gone into Libya.

00:15:33.000 It was the right move to get rid of Gaddafi.

00:15:35.000 He says we should depose Assad, presumably in favor of moderate Muslim rebels. 0.96

00:15:39.000 We don't know these people.

00:15:40.000 Ted Cruz says let's not depose dictators until we know who's going to replace them.

00:15:44.000 And Donald Trump says sort of the same thing, except more bombastically.

00:15:48.000 And then you have, on the other end, you have Rand Paul who says we shouldn't touch anybody anywhere.

00:15:52.000 We should basically leave everybody alone at all times.

00:15:55.000 The fact that Rand Paul was on one end makes

00:15:58.000 Cruz and Trump look more moderate because now they look like they're in the center of the gamut.

00:16:03.000 It doesn't look like Cruz is an isolationist.

00:16:04.000 It looks like he's a realist and Rand is the isolationist.

00:16:08.000 So that contrast actually helps Cruz a fair bit and that's good.

00:16:13.000 I think that's a positive development.

00:16:15.000 I think that is a debate that's worth having.

00:16:17.000 Again there were some substantive debates last night that were worth having.

00:16:20.000 The problem is that none of them actually

00:16:22.000 It's not a lack of competence that is preventing the Obama administration from stopping these attacks.

00:16:25.000 It is political correctness

00:16:51.000 We didn't monitor the Facebook posting of the female San Bernardino terrorist because the Obama DHS thought it would be inappropriate.

00:16:59.000 She made a public call to jihad and they didn't target it.

00:17:03.000 The Tsarnaev brothers, the elder brother made a public call to jihad and the Obama administration didn't target it.

00:17:10.000 Thank you.

00:17:33.000 Okay, so I actually agree with Cruz here.

00:17:35.000 The idea is, and I've said this, with regard to multiculturalism, if you insist that all cultures are equally culpable for violence, then what you end up doing is violating everyone's civil liberties in order to keep us safe.

00:17:46.000 Because the fact is, you're either going to go after the people who are most suspicious, or you're not.

00:17:50.000 You're either going to treat people as all equally suspicious, or you're not.

00:17:54.000 And so what Cruz is saying is you target the right people and that's how you get this done.

00:17:57.000 I agree with Cruz.

00:17:58.000 I think this is why Rubio's attacks on Cruz didn't have quite as much impact as Cruz's attacks on Rubio.

00:18:04.000 Cruz attacked Rubio on immigration, this would be clip 7, and this was an effective attack on Rubio on immigration, whereas I think that Rubio's national defense slander against Cruz really didn't stick because nobody sees Cruz as weak on national defense.

00:18:17.000 They don't consider him to be an isolationist in the same way that Rand Paul, for example, is an isolationist.

00:18:22.000 And this also goes to trust.

00:18:24.000 Listen, on campaign trails, candidates all the time make promises.

00:18:28.000 You know, Marcos said he learned that the American people didn't trust the federal government.

00:18:33.000 He campaigned in Florida promising to lead the fight against amnesty.

00:18:37.000 He campaigned promising to lead the fight against amnesty.

00:18:41.000 Does Ted Cruz rule out ever legalizing people that are in this country illegally now? 0.99

00:18:51.000 I have never supported legalization.

00:18:52.000 Do you rule it out?

00:18:53.000 I have never supported legalization, and I do not intend to support legalization.

00:18:57.000 And let me tell you how you do this.

00:18:59.000 What you do is you enforce... Okay.

00:19:02.000 What you do is you enforce the law.

00:19:04.000 Ms.

00:19:04.000 Fiorina, Ms.

00:19:04.000 Fiorina, please wait your turn.

00:19:06.000 We're going to get to you on this.

00:19:07.000 Go ahead, Senator.

00:19:08.000 Sorry, you haven't gotten to me.

00:19:09.000 Senator, go ahead.

00:19:10.000 And then it just evolves.

00:19:12.000 Okay, so Carly Fiorina, by the way, had a very bad debate. 1.00

00:19:15.000 You've noticed I haven't mentioned Carly Fiorina here.

00:19:16.000 That's because she's irrelevant.

00:19:18.000 First of all, I don't know where she got that necklace.

00:19:20.000 Flava Flav?

00:19:21.000 I mean, it looks like she literally found Christ's cross and then hung it around her neck there.

00:19:25.000 I mean, can you send a deeper signal to the voters of Iowa that you're a Christian than that?

00:19:29.000 You might as well just have like a big neon sign over your shoulders that says, I believe in Jesus.

00:19:34.000 I mean, that's just...

00:19:35.000 There's the subtle cross, and then there's what she's wearing right there, which looks like it's something out of a bad gangster movie.

00:19:43.000 Her interfering right there in what was a pretty crucial exchange actually was damaging to Rubio, because Rubio actually had Cruz on the ropes a little bit on the immigration issue right there, and Cruz was able to escape.

00:19:53.000 But all of this is to say that a lot of these candidates damaged each other.

00:19:56.000 A lot of these candidates hit each other, and a lot of these candidates smacked each other, and a lot of that did not

00:20:03.000 And well, for anyone except for Donald Trump, who ended up doing very well on all of this, to the point where one of the most entertaining exchanges where Donald Trump was basically patting Ted Cruz on the head over not insulting him.

00:20:14.000 Here is Donald Trump with Ted Cruz.

00:20:17.000 So why would you be willing to put somebody who's a maniac one heartbeat away from the president?

00:20:20.000 But I've gotten to know him over the last three or four days.

00:20:22.000 He has a wonderful temperament.

00:20:24.000 He's just fine.

00:20:25.000 Don't worry about it.

00:20:27.000 Okay.

00:20:31.000 And I can't think of anything much more condescending than that from Donald Trump.

00:20:35.000 But, you know, there's a reason that Cruz isn't attacking Trump, and it's because he feels like Trump's support eventually is going to bleed over to him once the aura of inevitability and invincibility has been pricked a little bit.

00:20:46.000 So, that's how it works out.

00:20:47.000 But, big winner of the night is Donald Trump. 0.99

00:20:49.000 Big loser of the night is probably Marco Rubio.

00:20:52.000 Although, it's hard to say that John Kasich is ever the winner of the night. 0.99

00:20:55.000 John Kasich is always the loser of the night. 0.94

00:20:57.000 Every night. 0.92

00:20:59.000 John Kasich actually said in this debate that he's been accused by people.

00:21:02.000 First of all, didn't he give himself a nickname a couple of debates ago?

00:21:05.000 He said he was like, people call me Big-Hearted John or something.

00:21:08.000 No one has ever called you that.

00:21:09.000 And then last night he said, some people say I have too big a heart.

00:21:12.000 No, mostly people say you have too big a mouth.

00:21:15.000 But John Kasich is constantly injecting himself.

00:21:17.000 But I just don't know why he's still sticking around.

00:21:21.000 In any case, how this is going to work out right now is if you look at the primary schedule, you have to figure that Cruz wins Iowa, it looks like Trump might win New Hampshire, and then it's a Trump-Cruz race all the way down to the wire.

00:21:31.000 And if that's the case, the establishment Republican Party is going to kill itself.

00:21:35.000 You will see 1929-style people throwing themselves off ledges.

00:21:40.000 It's the end of the world if Donald Trump is the nominee.

00:21:43.000 It's not great.

00:21:45.000 I don't think Donald Trump is a real conservative.

00:21:46.000 I don't think he believes in small government, for example.

00:21:49.000 Is it the end of the world?

00:21:50.000 No, I don't think it's the end of the world.

00:21:52.000 Do I think that Donald Trump could beat Hillary Clinton?

00:21:54.000 In some ways, I think yes, because I think that the kind of entertainment value he brings, like I say, you never know when Donald Trump is going to hit somebody in the face with a toaster.

00:22:02.000 And if it's Hillary Clinton, there are a lot of people out there who are sort of rooting for that.

00:22:05.000 Obviously, we're speaking figuratively, folks.

00:22:07.000 No one wants people physically beaten.

00:22:10.000 Okay, so in any case, I want to finish the debate analysis with this.

00:22:14.000 There is this clip of, and I just have to play this because it's funny, Chris Matthews was asked about having to thrill up his leg from Barack Obama by somebody over at Newsbusters, and Chris Matthews did not like the question at all in any way.

00:22:27.000 How is your leg?

00:22:30.000 The leg.

00:22:30.000 Is the thrill still there in the leg?

00:22:33.000 What was that?

00:22:34.000 Is the leg okay?

00:22:38.000 Did the thrill go away with surgery or did it just go away on its own?

00:22:43.000 We're rooting for you.

00:22:44.000 We're rooting for you over at MRC, man.

00:22:46.000 Good meeting you. 1.00

00:22:52.000 Go to hell, go to hell. 1.00

00:22:53.000 It's pretty funny stuff. 0.99

00:22:54.000 So Chris Matthews, apparently the thrill is gone from his leg and he will survive it.

00:22:59.000 Alright, let's talk about some things I like and some things I hate.

00:23:01.000 So things I like.

00:23:03.000 There was a hashtag that was going around that I've been meaning to get to for a couple of days.

00:23:06.000 And it was hashtag explain a film plot badly.

00:23:10.000 And it was very funny because basically it's people trying to explain film plots but doing a terrible job of it.

00:23:17.000 So for example, I explained the film plot of Star Wars as follows.

00:23:21.000 Boy makes out with sister.

00:23:22.000 Boy has hand cut off by father.

00:23:24.000 Boy makes friends with teddy bears.

00:23:26.000 Right, so that'd be explaining a film plot badly.

00:23:27.000 Of course, the classic of this genre comes courtesy of TV Guide several years ago.

00:23:31.000 Somebody did a synopsis of The Wizard of Oz that said, in a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first person she meets, then teams up with three strangers to kill again.

00:23:39.000 Which is spectacular.

00:23:41.000 So if you want to have some fun today, go on Twitter and find the hashtag ExplainAFilmPlotBadly because it's very funny.

00:23:47.000 Okay, things I hate.

00:23:48.000 So, a couple of quick things I hate because we're running out of time.

00:23:51.000 So, one thing that I definitely hate.

00:23:54.000 Today, there was a Twitter exchange between me and Patton Oswalt.

00:23:57.000 I didn't hate the Twitter exchange.

00:23:58.000 I think Twitter is a fun place.

00:24:00.000 What always becomes annoying is that the Twitter exchange tends to extend so that somebody can get the last word eventually.

00:24:06.000 And so it just kind of goes on too long.

00:24:08.000 And I'll admit that I do that sometimes, and here I probably did it a little bit too long.

00:24:11.000 But the other thing that ends up happening is that people sort of bring their followers into the fight.

00:24:15.000 So I have 140,000 followers on Twitter, thereabouts.

00:24:19.000 Patton Oswalt has like 2.4 million, because he's this, if you haven't heard of Patton Oswalt, he's this short, fat mediocrity of a comedian who makes a lot of jokes about atheism, comic books, and Lord of the Rings, and curses a lot, and then plays Remy the Rat in Ratatouille.

00:24:33.000 That's who Patton Oswalt is.

00:24:35.000 And he's worth, according to the internet, of the all-knowing sources of the internet, he's worth $14 million.

00:24:41.000 Well, he tweeted out, this whole thing started with Patton Oswalt tweeting out that what he learned from the Republican debate is that we desperately, desperately need

00:24:50.000 We desperately need Bernie Sanders.

00:24:52.000 That's what he actually tweeted out.

00:24:54.000 We desperately need Bernie Sanders.

00:24:55.000 And so I tweeted out at him that if that's what you learn, then you may have some problems.

00:24:59.000 Because, seriously, Bernie Sanders? 0.99

00:25:02.000 And then Patton Oswalt called me a neocon, which, for those who are ignorant like Patton Oswalt, he's either ignorant or he's an anti-Semite. 0.97

00:25:08.000 Because, number one, I don't agree with the so-called neocons like Irving Kristol. 0.96

00:25:12.000 And second, so if you're lumping me in with Irving Kristol, there's only two reasons to do that. 1.00

00:25:15.000 One, because you think all right-wingers agree with Irving Kristol, which is you being stupid. 0.99

00:25:20.000 Or two, because Irving Kristol and I are both Jews, in which case you're anti-Semitic. 0.99

00:25:23.000 So, I mentioned both of these possibilities.

00:25:25.000 He got very upset.

00:25:26.000 It went back and forth.

00:25:27.000 And finally, I asked him the question he refused to answer no less than ten times on Twitter.

00:25:31.000 What is your net worth, you socialist?

00:25:33.000 Because all these people who like to jabber about income inequality are perfectly happy to live in a magical world where they get to earn

00:25:39.000 Well, apparently $14 million is his net worth, according to the interwebs.

00:25:42.000 So he earns a lot of money, but he wants your money to go to the federal government.

00:25:47.000 He has hidden all of his money away in banks somewhere, so he doesn't really have to worry about it.

00:25:50.000 Bernie Sanders doesn't want a wealth tax, he only wants an income tax, of course.

00:25:54.000 That's very convenient.

00:25:55.000 So that's a thing that I hate.

00:25:56.000 Comedians thinking that they understand politics or economics or anything of any real value.

00:26:03.000 My favorite part is where he tried to explain to me that science meant that men could become women and that transgenderism was not a mental disorder.

00:26:10.000 It was a real physical change that could occur in a human being.

00:26:14.000 To which I said, no, that's called magic.

00:26:16.000 It's not called science.

00:26:17.000 There's no science by which chromosomes magically change from X to Y. It just doesn't work that way.

00:26:21.000 But he and his all-knowing scientific wisdom, having played the very scientific part of a rat that forgoes cheese in favor of combinations of different spices, he knows better. 1.00

00:26:31.000 So, Patton Oswalt, idiot of the day. 0.90

00:26:33.000 Alright, so, another thing that I hate, a little bit of deconstructing the culture, Miley Cyrus now has a new music video, and we could do this every week with Miley Cyrus, because Miley Cyrus is all that is wrong with humanity. 0.99

00:26:43.000 She's not sexy, she's not interesting, she's just nihilistic, and she's looking for boundaries to cross because she's such a sad little person, she really is.

00:26:50.000 I mean, if you look into those vacant eyes,

00:26:53.000 And don't get sucked, feel your soul being sucked away from you, then what you see is a desperate girl, a girl who is desperate for attention, and you can see it in everything she does.

00:27:01.000 She's just desperate, desperate for attention. 0.98

00:27:04.000 She's now done something that the left routinely likes to do, and that is mix up sex and childhood. 1.00

00:27:10.000 And this really is perverse. 0.99

00:27:12.000 Okay, it's one thing for her to do the, I'm a pansexual, I'll have sex with anything that can consent, right? 0.98

00:27:16.000 Dogs, trees, people, anything, it doesn't matter. 1.00

00:27:19.000 That's one thing, and it's stupid enough, and it's immoral enough, but 0.99

00:27:22.000 For her to mix up her own sexuality with children is actually perverse because now people start to see children sexually. 0.99

00:27:30.000 That's the goal of mixing up the two.

00:27:31.000 Why else would you do it?

00:27:33.000 So here's Miley Cyrus doing just that in a video she calls Baby Talk and we're only gonna get through 30 seconds of this before I vomit like Linda Blair in The Exorcist and my head turns around and it's just a giant stream of green goo everywhere.

00:27:44.000 So let's start with Miley Cyrus here.

00:27:50.000 And there she is cursing. 1.00

00:28:19.000 Okay, enough.

00:28:20.000 I mean, we've seen the imagery.

00:28:22.000 It's really gross and perverse.

00:28:23.000 I mean, she's doing the whole baby doll routine. 1.00

00:28:25.000 This was controversial back in the movie.

00:28:27.000 In the 1960s, there was a movie in which a girl did this, and she played, like, the baby doll sexy thing.

00:28:32.000 It was very, very controversial at the time.

00:28:34.000 Now we've left all controversy behind, so she can play an actual infant, sexualizing infants, and people are going to pretend like this is okay, because it's just art. 0.89

00:28:41.000 It's just something that she does.

00:28:43.000 Mixing up sex and death is evil. 0.94

00:28:45.000 Mixing up sex and childhood is evil. 0.98

00:28:48.000 Perverting children is truly evil.

00:28:50.000 I mean, protecting the innocence of kids should be something that's near the top of our list in terms of priorities as a society.

00:28:55.000 The fact that so much of Hollywood doesn't want to do that really is

00:28:59.000 Quite perverse.

00:29:00.000 So, that is it for things that I hate, and Miley Cyrus continues to be near the top of that list. 0.87

00:29:07.000 She is indeed a thing, and indeed a thing that I hate.

00:29:10.000 So, there you are.

00:29:11.000 Tomorrow we will be back with more, and I'm sure Trump will be topping the polls again.

00:29:16.000 Trump has a relatively clear path to the nomination at this point, unless the establishment gets together and does something they don't want to do.

00:29:24.000 Back Ted Cruz, which is the end of the world for them.

00:29:27.000 Jeb Bush, by the way, final note, Jeb Bush has said today he might not support Donald Trump if Donald Trump is the nominee.

00:29:32.000 So remember when everybody in the Tea Party was supposed to support John McCain and Mitt Romney because we all had to unite to defeat Barack Obama?

00:29:38.000 The establishment doesn't feel the same necessity so long as they don't get their guy.

00:29:42.000 Which sort of tells you the future of the Republican Party and we will talk about all of that tomorrow.

00:29:46.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:29:47.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - December 16, 2015

Ep. 42 - Republican Debate Review: Trump vs. Jeb, The Death Match

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