Ben Shapiro has the best Christmas gift you could ask for: Star Wars commentary on the Democratic Debates, Donald Trump and Jeb Bush, and the dark side of Star Wars. Plus, a look at why I don t worship at the altar of the Star Wars morality, and why I hate it. Ben Shapiro is a writer, podcaster, and host of the podcast "The Ben Shapiro Show." He's also a regular contributor to the New York Times and the Hollywood Reporter, and is a frequent guest on the radio show "The View From The Outpost" on SiriusXM's Morning Mashup. He is the author of the book "The Dark Side of the Force: A Star Wars Story" and has been a frequent contributor to The Weekly Standard, The Huffington Post, and many other publications. Ben is an avid Star Wars fan and writer, and has long been a supporter of the franchise and the original Star Wars movies, including "The Rise of Skywalker" and "Episode VI: Return of the Jedi." He has been married to Carrie Bradbury since 1977 and they have a daughter, Leia Organa, who was born in 1977. They have a son, Luke Skywalker, who is also a good friend of mine, and I have a great appreciation for Star Wars and the movies in general. The Rise of the Skywalker saga. This episode is a must-listens to all things Star Wars: Episode VI: Rise of The Rise Of The Skywalker. and Episode IV: A New Hope, which is out in theaters now. on Blu-ray and also on Amazon Prime Video. Subscribe to The Force and subscribe on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes and subscribe to The Ben Shapiro's Podcasts on Podcharts! Learn more about your ad choices. Rate, comment and review our podcast choices. Send us your thoughts on the show recommendations! Music: "The Best of the Week" by Ian Dorsch and Shadydave on Soundcloud and "The Mandalorian" by Cracks on SoundCloud Thank you for listening to our new episodes of "The Force" by clicking here and "Good Morning America" by on your favorite podrids and other podcasting platform! Subscribe and review us on Podpods on iTunes Thanks for listening and reviewing our work! Timestamps: 0:00 - 5:30 - What's your favorite song of the week?
00:00:22.000I tend to demonize people who don't care about your feelings.
00:00:29.000Alrighty, so here we are, and it is Monday, and we'll start with a little bit of Star Wars commentary.
00:00:35.000Now, there will be no spoilers here because I haven't seen the film, but I do want to talk briefly about something that drives me a little bit insane, which is of course the essence of the entire show, things that drive me insane, but there was an article that I saw about a church that was holding some event celebrating the Force.
00:00:53.000And I thought to myself, we're finished as a civilization.
00:00:57.000Not only because there's so many people who worship at the altar of Star Wars.
00:01:00.000Okay, great movies, I love the originals, I grew up on the originals, I love the originals so much that when my younger sister was born and my parents got to, they asked me what I thought her middle name should be, because I really wanted a younger brother and it was a sister, and I said that they should make her middle name Leia, which it is, right?
00:01:15.000That's how much I liked the Star Wars films, but...
00:01:19.000The morality of the Force is really, really screwed up.
00:01:22.000It's really skewed, and it's really screwed up.
00:01:24.000So if you remember the original Star Wars films, and this is why I don't worship at the altar of the morality of Star Wars, the original Star Wars films, they're based on the idea that hate and rage are the dark side of the Force, and happy-dappy-do is the light side of the Force.
00:01:37.000If you give in to hate, if you give in to rage, then you will have given in to the dark side.
00:01:41.000Which is, of course, why the light side gets its ass kicked, right?
00:01:51.000Those are the two most powerful people in terms of the Force, except for the Emperor, right, who shoots lightning out of his fingers, and Darth Vader, who, as you recall, had all of his limbs chopped off by the guy who lives in the cave.
00:02:03.000Right, so Darth Vader, the guy who lost that fight, right?
00:02:06.000That guy now runs entire starships and huge planetary doom machines.
00:02:12.000And the guy who chopped off all of his limbs with one swipe of his lightsaber?
00:02:15.000That guy lives in a cave, waiting for Luke Skywalker to walk around, right?
00:02:19.000So the bottom line is, the idea here is that if you use force in defense of good, there is something inherently wrong with it.
00:02:25.000This has always been the sort of conflict within Star Wars that doesn't really work.
00:02:28.000And that is that, really, in order to defeat evil, you have to fight it.
00:02:31.000And you see this at the end of Return of the Jedi.
00:02:34.000Jeremy Boring, managing editor, who's a huge Star Wars fan, he and I were discussing this, that Return of the Jedi, the real problem is...
00:02:41.000That Luke, in order to win, Luke has to actually fall prey to the dark side, right?
00:02:46.000Yoda warns him that if you leave, and Empire Strikes Back says, if you leave, if you don't complete the training, then you'll lose everything that you fought for, and you'll fall to the dark side.
00:02:55.000And you're supposed to think, oh, Yoda was wrong, it didn't really happen.
00:02:58.000But the truth is, that if you remember back to Return of the Jedi, if you recall this, Luke actually beats Darth Vader by losing his, right?
00:03:29.000Okay, well, there was a simpler solution, which is that Luke could have walked over, picked up the Emperor, and thrown him down the mineshaft, right?
00:03:36.000At that point, he is the most powerful Jedi in the universe.
00:03:39.000He just took out Darth Vader pretty easily by knocking him over in like, well, he gets pissed, and literally within the next five seconds, Darth Vader is done, right?
00:03:46.000This giant seven foot tall guy dressed in the black skeleton mask, that guy who's been beating the crap out of Luke for three movies at this point, at the very end,
00:03:55.000Luke turns on the dark side switch, and boom!
00:03:57.000He takes down Darth Vader, no problem!
00:04:00.000And not just takes him down, he starts wailing on him, right?
00:04:06.000The duel lasts for five seconds, and then he knocks him over, and he proceeds to just beat the crap out of him until Darth Vader's hand goes wide, and then he chops off his hand, right?
00:04:39.000The idea of the Bible is that you're not supposed to be passive with regard to evil.
00:04:42.000You're supposed to hate evil, and you're supposed to fight evil.
00:04:45.000And yet, at the beginning of Episode 4, the fact is that all the good people are sitting around doing nothing, and all the people who know the Force are on the bad side.
00:04:53.000Right, the fact that because the most effective parts of the Force, as anyone who watches the movies knows, the most effective part of the Force is the dark side of the Force, right?
00:05:00.000I mean, they keep telling you the light side of the Force is awesome.
00:05:21.000So, let's see, which one is more powerful?
00:05:23.000This is not an argument in favor of the morality of the Empire.
00:05:26.000It is an argument that the picture of this dichotomous kind of... Every religion has the idea of dichotomous good and evil, but good and evil in the Star Wars universe is passive versus active.
00:05:48.000The truth is that the best plan in all of Star Wars, the actual best plan in all of Star Wars, and he should have done it, is articulated by Darth Vader in Empire Strikes Back.
00:05:56.000Can you imagine how different the galaxy is?
00:05:58.000Darth Vader says, you join me and we will rule the galaxy together as father and son.
00:06:02.000We'll take control of this entire giant military apparatus, and then we can do whatever you want, right?
00:06:10.000I mean, as it turns out, according to the new movie, and this isn't a spoiler, they're still fighting people, right?
00:06:16.000It's like 40 years later, and Han's super old, and Carrie Fisher's gotten fat, and they're still fighting people.
00:06:21.000Wouldn't it have been better if Luke had sided up with Dad, and they'd taken down the Emperor, and then they'd figured out some sort of democratization process for the entire civilization?
00:06:30.000You know, instead of disbanding the entire Iraqi military and then letting it devolve into chaos, it would have been better if they'd actually taken advantage of the systems that were in place.
00:06:39.000But here's the thing you have to understand about Star Wars.
00:06:42.000George Lucas, when he made Star Wars, people don't know this historically, George Lucas meant it as a swipe at Richard Nixon and the Vietnam War.
00:06:50.000Back in 1973, he talked about how he was going to do Star Wars, and he specifically has said that Emperor Palpatine, he says he was a politician.
00:07:00.000Palpatine was supposed to be Nixon, which is weird since Palpatine never got deposed after bugging Darth Vader's campaign headquarters.
00:07:08.000And then he said also that this was supposed to be the Vietnam War.
00:07:11.000He actually supposed to, apparently, he said the Viet Cong were supposed to be like the Ewoks, which is a really kind of dismissive view of who the Viet Cong were, considering that they were communist murderers,
00:07:48.000And hey look, the AT-AT just went down, that's crazy!
00:07:51.000No, that would never happen, not in a million years, that's stupid crap.
00:07:54.000So anyway, the bottom line is, even for someone who loves Star Wars like me, the morality of the Star Wars universe is actually the morality of the American left.
00:08:02.000It's the same morality that you now see...
00:08:05.000In every single movie, every single movie or TV show where you have somebody fighting evil, there is a scene now, and it drives me nuts.
00:08:12.000There's always a scene where somebody says to the good guy, but if you kill the bad guy, won't you be just like him?
00:08:46.000That in order to do good things, you have to be a complete pacifist Quaker.
00:08:50.000This means evil people win, and the truth is that at the end of Star Wars, the message of Star Wars is actually counter to the message of Star Wars, right?
00:08:57.000What Lucas actually ends up doing, because this is how the real world works and this is how narrative works, you have to fight evil in order to defeat evil.
00:09:04.000And you have to use blasters, and you have to use lightsabers, and you have to use the Force, and you have to use...
00:09:11.000You have to use X-Wings, and you have to use the Millennium Falcon, and you have to blow up giant planets full of presumably millions of people, but you have to do lots of bad stuff in order to win a war.
00:09:20.000But George Lucas, it never occurs to him, apparently, that this is how all of this works.
00:09:25.000Okay, so there's a brief commentary on Star Wars.
00:09:37.000For multiple people in this office who have seen the Star Wars film and who are big Star Wars fanatics, that they were disappointed by it.
00:09:42.000Jonathan Hay, who does all of the production on this show, he says that it was a six to seven.
00:09:47.000Jeremy said that he sort of felt the same.
00:09:49.000Mathis, for some reason, is over the moon about this thing, which I say, and so Jonathan was saying like the third or fourth time he sees it, it'll finally hit him, that this movie isn't actually a 10.
00:10:01.000And I made the joke that's sort of like seeing a transgender in a bar.
00:10:05.000From far away, okay, and then you get close, and then if you have a few too many drinks, presumably, according to those who have done this, apparently, is what I hear, but after a few drinks, then you look around, you realize maybe you should have spotted the 90-degree jaw.
00:10:19.000So basically, that's what's happening with Star Wars with some people, is that they're giving it the benefit of the doubt, because they really want it to be so good, and so they're giving it the benefit of the doubt.
00:10:44.000I didn't watch it live at the time because I have a daughter and a life and things to do.
00:10:49.000and like wash my hair and and this thing took place basically and it would be hard to find a way to schedule this where less people would watch this.
00:10:58.000I mean this was essentially scheduled on a moving subway from the movie The Warriors at 3 a.m.
00:12:11.000By the way, she looks like something from Star Wars.
00:12:16.000And she walks in, she says, sorry, and she's wearing, I mean, she looks like she's wearing, like, a mal coat, and she, and she kind of saunters on over, uh, shaped like a pear, and stands behind that, stands behind that podium.
00:12:27.000Now, the reason that she was late to the debate, and she walks in late to the segment, is apparently she was offstage going to the bathroom, and she had to go pee-pee.
00:12:34.000And, uh, and, but they had plenty of time for her to go pee-pee.
00:12:37.000I mean, there was, like, a five-minute break, which is, as someone who does radio for a living,
00:13:13.000And so she has to be in the room alone when she really lets loose, even though she is a walking ball of gas.
00:13:19.000But she, you know, finally she comes back out.
00:13:22.000And it turns out Clint Eastwood was right all along, except that he was right about Hillary, not about Obama, when he said it's an empty chair.
00:13:32.000Walks back out, and this debate continues, and no one cares, of course, because, hey, why would they?
00:13:36.000Hillary did drop a line that was kind of amazing.
00:13:39.000There are a couple things that happened that were noteworthy in this debate.
00:13:42.000One was that Bernie Sanders really slapped Hillary around on foreign policy.
00:13:45.000And Bernie Sanders, who is the senator from Loonville, he is, um, what he says here about Hillary's foreign policy is exactly correct, actually, which is sort of shocking.
00:13:54.000So here is, clip one, Bernie Sanders smacking Hillary around on her foreign policy while waving his arms like Larry David.
00:14:01.000I worry too much that Secretary Clinton is too much into regime change and a little bit too aggressive without knowing what the unintended consequences might be.
00:14:13.000Yes, we could get rid of Saddam Hussein, but that destabilized the entire region.
00:14:18.000Yes, we could get rid of Qaddafi, a terrible dictator, but that created a vacuum for ISIS.
00:14:27.000Yes, we could get rid of Assad tomorrow, but that would create another political vacuum that would benefit ISIS.
00:14:34.000So I think, yeah, regime change is easy.
00:14:39.000But before you do that, you've got to think about what happens the day after.
00:14:44.000And in my view, what we need to do is put together broad coalitions to understand that we're not going to have a political vacuum filled by terrorists, that in fact we are going to move steadily and maybe slowly.
00:15:00.000Okay, so he's actually exactly right about this.
00:15:15.000Everything that Bernie Sanders just said, I mean I've never said this before, everything that Bernie Sanders said right there is exactly right.
00:15:20.000Now what's weird about this for the Republican race is who can actually say this in a debate with Hillary?
00:15:30.000Rubio's in favor of regime change in Syria.
00:15:32.000He and Hillary are actually sort of on the same page in terms of their policy in Syria and Libya, which were two of Hillary's biggest foreign policy boondoggles and mistakes.
00:15:41.000Donald Trump can take the opposing point of view.
00:15:43.000Ted Cruz can take the opposing point of view.
00:15:45.000And we'll get to that in a second because the Republican side of the aisle is now in complete chaos.
00:15:49.000It's a complete mess because of the opposition to Trump.
00:15:53.000Bernie Sanders hitting Hillary was a noteworthy moment, and it was effective, and this should tell people on the Republican side of the aisle that the George W. Bush regime-change-in-favor-of-democracy ideal has been put to the side now, because even people like me, who are very hawkish on foreign policy, want to see a very effective and powerful American military, look at what Bernie Sanders is saying there, and we say, well, there's more truth to that than Hillary's, let's just knock out Qaddafi and chortle about it while ISIS takes power.
00:16:20.000The other moment in the debate that was telling was Hillary Clinton at one point said that Donald Trump was the lead recruiter for ISIS.
00:16:26.000Here is Hillary Clinton, the Secretary of State, wearing what has to, this has to, Lindsay, you're a girl, this is the ugliest jacket.
00:16:32.000I mean, I'm not into fashion, but even I can tell when it looks like you are wearing my grandmother's carpet from 1973 in her, yeah, she looks like a potato.
00:16:42.000She looks like she's wearing a potato sack, right?
00:16:44.000It looks like she took a burlap sack, cut a hole in it, and then stuck it over her head, which
00:16:49.000I mean, honestly, if she hadn't cut a hole in it and just left it over her head, that would have improved the appearance for everyone involved.
00:16:53.000But here's Hillary Clinton talking about how Donald Trump is the lead ISIS recruiter.
00:16:58.000One of the best things that was done, and George W. Bush did this and I give him credit, was to reach out to Muslim Americans and say, we're in this together.
00:17:47.000Hillary Clinton has a problem, which is that she's such a calculated politician that she unconsciously, and she desperately wants to be liked, so she unconsciously mirrors the stuff that everyone around her does.
00:17:57.000This is why when she goes down south and she's speaking at a black church, suddenly she starts dropping the black accent.
00:18:01.000She's watching Bernie Sanders get big applause, and so she turns to Sanders.
00:18:04.000She sees Sanders doing the crazy hands, right?
00:18:07.000Every word has a hand connected with it, and you don't know what he's gonna do, but the hands are moving all the time.
00:19:13.000Like, a month of controversy over that.
00:19:15.000But Hillary says an outright lie here, and it's totally fine, because that's how the media works.
00:19:20.000Well, meanwhile, on the Republican side of the aisle, one of the reasons people are interested in seeing Donald Trump in a debate with Hillary Clinton is because they feel like Donald Trump
00:19:28.000We'll just reach down into his Mary Poppins bag of hammers, basically, and just pull out a Roger Rabbit mallet and hit Hillary Clinton with it.
00:19:37.000And that's because of stuff like this.
00:19:39.000Here's Donald Trump talking about Hillary Clinton.
00:19:41.000He says, yeah, Hillary tends to lie about pretty much everything.
00:19:45.000I want to play one particular quote that Hillary Clinton said last night and get you to respond to it.
00:20:52.000When's the last time you saw an interview with Hillary Clinton where they ask a question about one of her opponents slandering her, and they say, I know what you're gonna say, but...
00:21:01.000And good for Trump for jumping in and cutting off Chuck Todd to answer that question.
00:21:05.000Now, with the good Trump comes the bad Trump.
00:21:08.000Trump over the weekend was basically endorsed by Vladimir Putin, and he said that he was asked by Joe Scarborough on MSNBC about Vladimir Putin killing journalists.
00:21:17.000There is proof that Vladimir Putin has been connected with the killing of journalists.
00:21:21.000As far as the reporters are concerned, obviously I don't want that to happen.
00:23:35.000Vladimir Putin does have political opponents killed.
00:23:37.000Vladimir Putin does apparently have journalists killed.
00:23:40.000The allegations are extraordinarily credible that his regime has killed journalists.
00:23:44.000So, you know, the fact that Trump is defending him, it's not a good moment for Trump.
00:23:47.000The reason, however, that Trump is doing well, the reason that Trump is doing well is because of people like Jeb Bush and the establishment.
00:25:37.000I'm trying to point out that he's not a serious candidate.
00:25:40.000His answer about the nuclear triad, for example, is mind-blowing.
00:25:44.000I mean, not having any knowledge about what the subject is, where you have this exclusive responsibility of the President of the United States as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces to
00:25:54.000To know women how to use our nuclear deterrent.
00:25:59.000I mean, he has no knowledge about this stuff.
00:26:01.000He thought, he now has come out saying that Putin is a strong man and a great guy when he's trying to destabilize our relationship with our allies.
00:26:11.000He's not a serious candidate, but you are, Jeb, sitting there in your little sweater, you know, talking about, and looking like Jimmy Carter over there, talking about how you never wanted to be the frontrunner.
00:26:23.000I think there are a lot of things about Trump that aren't serious.
00:26:25.000But I think we're beyond the point of seriousness being a qualifier for high office when President Obama has been there for seven years.
00:26:32.000This President of the United States is a deeply unserious man.
00:26:35.000President Obama over the weekend said the real reason people are afraid of ISIS is because he hasn't done enough in speaking to the American people about the threat of ISIS.
00:26:44.000For Obama, all shortcomings are because we just don't understand him well enough.
00:26:48.000It's never because he doesn't understand us, it's because we don't understand him.
00:26:51.000If only we would understand President Obama better, then all would be well with the world and all of the critiques of him
00:26:58.000All the criticism of him, says President Obama, is because of racism.
00:27:03.000So don't talk to me about seriousness.
00:27:05.000When Hillary Clinton is your Democratic frontrunner, pathological liar, corrupt beyond recognition Hillary Clinton is your frontrunner, and your secondary frontrunner in the Democratic Party is Bernie Loonville Sanders.
00:27:17.000Don't talk to me about Sirius when those are your people on the Democratic side of the aisle.
00:27:21.000And don't talk to me about Sirius on the right side of the aisle when the people who you're offering as the establishment picks are people like Jeb Bush, who was supposed to be the great be-all end-all sitting there in his sweater talking about how he never wanted to be the frontrunner.
00:28:17.000Name of the new party will have to start if Trump wins the GOP nomination.
00:28:21.000Suggestions welcome at editor at weeklystandard.com.
00:28:25.000So he's talking openly about a third-party run from the left of Trump, right?
00:28:29.000Somebody from the establishment GOP running against Trump, which of course would guarantee Hillary becomes president of the United States, right?
00:28:37.000This was the argument originally about Trump.
00:28:39.000The argument originally about Trump is that if Trump decided to run third party, he hands the nomination to Hillary Clinton- he hands the presidency to Hillary Clinton.
00:28:47.000Now the establishment is saying, we hate Trump so much, Trump is so crazy, that if he runs, we're gonna start a third party to run against Trump.
00:28:54.000And this isn't just- this isn't just Bill Kristol.
00:28:56.000Jeff Greenfield over at Politico wrote over the weekend, quote,
00:29:00.000If the operatives I talked with are right, Trump running as a Republican could well face a third-party run from the Republicans themselves.
00:29:07.000If you want to see the most sulfurous assaults on Trump like sulfur, don't look to the editorial page of the New York Times or the comments of MSNBC personalities.
00:29:15.000Look instead to the most prominent media voices in the conservative world, National Review, the Weekly Standard, Commentary, and the columns of George Will and others.
00:29:24.000And then he goes on to talk about how the Republicans really could run somebody third party against Donald Trump, which of course would guarantee the presidency to Hillary Clinton.
00:29:32.000They would rather have Hillary be president than Donald Trump.
00:30:28.000And John Anderson actually ran third party against Ronald Reagan.
00:30:32.000He was in some of the debates, the early debates, with Jimmy Carter.
00:30:34.000He ended up winning something like four to six percent of the vote.
00:30:38.000Reagan won walking away anyway, but the fact is that the establishment thought Reagan was so crazy they had to run somebody.
00:30:44.000The other example of this is, of course, David Duke running for governor in Louisiana, and the Republican Party decided to put up a former governor just to knock off David Duke, but Trump is not like David Duke.
00:30:53.000Trying to compare Trump to David Duke is a bit absurd.
00:30:56.000So if the Republican Party wants to guarantee Trump the nomination, all they have to do is keep going
00:31:02.000With all of this, Trump is the worst, Trump is terrible, and we'd rather have Hillary Clinton than Trump, because now I really don't trust you to pick my nominee.
00:31:09.000I really, really don't trust you to pick my nominee.
00:31:11.000Okay, it's time for a little bit of stuff I like, and then we'll get to stuff that I hate here on a Monday.
00:31:16.000Couple of things, stuff I like, just some funny things that happened over the weekend.
00:31:19.000So, I don't know how many of you saw this, it's gone viral on the internet, Miss Universe.
00:31:23.000The end of the Miss Universe contest, Steve Harvey.
00:34:12.000Because who knows who actually made the lightning round.
00:34:15.000Okay, here's another thing that I like.
00:34:17.000Okay, so people, there's such a, politics, there's so much about politics that really is surface level.
00:34:24.000And people don't like to recognize this, but it really is true.
00:34:27.000So, a lot of the scorn for Donald Trump comes from the fact that Donald Trump speaks like Donald Trump.
00:34:31.000A lot of the scorn for Sarah Palin came from the fact that Sarah Palin speaks like Sarah Palin.
00:34:35.000So somebody cut a video of Donald Trump, and it's pretty spectacular, of Donald Trump talking on Fox News, except they dubbed over it a sophisticated-sounding British man.
00:34:44.000And look how all of a sudden it looks like Donald Trump's IQ just jumped about 36 points.
00:34:49.000And it really is, it's kind of fascinating because this is how our politics works now.
00:34:54.000Folks who can't see this, it's actually, it's Donald Trump talking and then a voice dubbed over at Donald Trump talking about Muslim immigration.
00:36:32.000And then Paul Ryan, who's the great white hope of the conservative establishment, Paul Ryan goes on national TV and here's what Paul Ryan has to say about the deal that he just cut.
00:36:42.000A deal so good for President Obama that Obama called him to wish him happy holidays and Paul Ryan said right back at ya.
00:36:47.000Here's Paul Ryan on NBC News with Chuck Todd.
00:36:51.000I sat down with him on Friday and he said he'd deal with Planned Parenthood in the new year and that conservatives need to accept that he had to make compromises to get a deal done.
00:37:01.000Let me first say, this is divided government.
00:37:04.000And in divided government, you don't get everything you want.
00:37:08.000So we fought for as much as we could get.
00:37:10.000We advanced our priorities and principles.
00:37:12.000Not every single one of them, but many of them.
00:37:14.000And then we're going to pick up next year and pick up where we left off and keep going for more.
00:37:21.000Beardy McLumberjack telling us that we are doing the best that we can in divided government.
00:37:26.000Yeah, lecture me about divided government, Paul.
00:37:28.000Just lecture me about how divided government works.
00:37:30.000Yeah, I understand how divided government works, but guess what?
00:37:34.000The fact is that the House has one power, the power of the purse, since you already ruled impeachment off the table.
00:37:39.000Barack Obama could strangle a small child on national television, and you guys have already said you'll never impeach him.
00:37:44.000So, that means you have one power, and one power only.
00:37:48.000And that power is the power of the purse.
00:37:50.000And you won't use it, because you're afraid that Obama will then not sign the budget, and the government will shut down, and you will be blamed.
00:38:00.000And it's Obama's job to represent his side.
00:38:03.000And if you're going to make—if the Republican Party's idea is that our job is basically to just sit there and do nothing until we get the presidency, it's gonna be a long hundred years, gang, because it could be a long time before there's a Republican president again.