The Ben Shapiro Show


Ep. 56 - Everyone Knows What 'New York Values' Are, So Stop Bitching


Summary

Ted Cruz should have foreseen the 9/11 attack, and Donald Trump is a magnificent douchebag when it comes to his New York values, Ben Shapiro argues. Ben Shapiro's full breakdown of the latest episode of The Ben Shapiro Show on CNN's "The Situation Room" with John Berman, where he and Jake Tapper discuss the latest in the Ted Cruz vs. Donald Trump primary battle, including the latest on the birther controversy, and why the media should be mad at Ted Cruz for saying that Trump should be playing "New York, New York" in place of "Like a Virgin" in response to a question about his views on immigration and Muslims in the first presidential primary debate, and how they should be handled in the aftermath of the attack on the World Trade Center in the wake of the September 11th, 2001, attacks in the United States, and the response to it by the New York City police response to the events in the days after the attack, but he didn't, and now he's in hot water for saying they should have been playing like a virgin instead of playing like they should play like a "Vanderpump Rules" in the debate, because he's from New York. Ben Shapiro explains why that's a bad idea, and what we should be focusing on in the future of the 2020 campaign, and whether or not it's time for him to apologize to the people of New York, not the people who lost their values in 9/Osama bin Laden's 7/11 response to 9/9/11. 11/11 in the day in the 1989 earthquake in the attack in the streets of San Francisco, California, and it's a good thing. Ben's full analysis of the Cruz's response to that 9/10/11 reaction to that happened in the late 90s, and his thoughts on the 9-11 attack in response, but not the response he should have anticipated it, and not the reaction to it in the 1990s response to those attacks in New York s response to their response to them being a good one in the 1980s in the Ground Zero earthquake in San Francisco's Ground Zero building in the ground zero building in 1989, and much more! and much, much, MUCH MORE! -- including a full transcript of the full clip from a clip from the show from a radio show on his radio show, here's what you can expect from him on that episode, here on The Benny Shapiro Show:


Transcript

00:00:00.000 It is a Monday, I am here, and as you can see if you're watching me on video, I may in fact have the black lung pop.
00:00:05.000 I may be dying, so you'll see me blow my nose, you'll see me cough, you'll see tears.
00:00:09.000 None of it will have to do with the Democratic debate, but I'm here with you.
00:00:12.000 We soldier forth.
00:00:13.000 We continue on.
00:00:15.000 We have a lot to talk about.
00:00:16.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:16.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:25.000 So much to talk about.
00:00:26.000 There's the Republican debate, there's the Democratic debate, and of course, as I mentioned, I may keel over in the middle of the show from walking pneumonia.
00:00:32.000 But in any case, let's start with what happened last Thursday night.
00:00:35.000 So last Thursday night, and this extended over the weekend, the final fight broke out.
00:00:40.000 We have now entered Mad Ted Thunderdome.
00:00:43.000 And it's Cruz versus Trump, and they're going at each other.
00:00:47.000 And this all started because Donald Trump decided he had to go after Ted Cruz because Cruz was doing better in the polls.
00:00:53.000 And so there is this exchange in the middle of the debate about the birther issue, and Ted Cruz won that exchange, and then there was a second issue.
00:01:00.000 And this is the one that the media have decided to jump upon.
00:01:03.000 Not the birther issue, which is a silly issue.
00:01:05.000 They've decided to jump on an even sillier issue.
00:01:08.000 Okay, so apparently Donald Trump, at his rallies, was playing the song Born in the USA, which, just, as I sideswipe here, Bruce Springsteen sucks and that song is horrible.
00:01:18.000 But he's playing Born in the USA at his rallies because he's trying to make fun of the fact that Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, and Ted Cruz responded on a radio show, made some sort of cheesy joke about how Donald Trump should be playing New York, New York, because he has New York values.
00:01:33.000 And this turned into a big to-do at the debate.
00:01:35.000 First of all,
00:01:37.000 If that's the best line you can come up with, I mean, I love Ted Cruz, but that is not a strong line, that Trump should be playing New York, New York.
00:01:43.000 He should be playing like a virgin.
00:01:44.000 I mean, there's like a thousand songs that he could cite for Trump instead of New York.
00:01:48.000 In any case, Ted Cruz says New York values, and then he's asked about it in the debate, and this exchange ensues.
00:01:55.000 Let's play it.
00:01:57.000 I think most people know exactly what New York values are.
00:02:01.000 I am from New York.
00:02:02.000 You're from New York, so you might not, but I promise you in the state of South Carolina, they do.
00:02:10.000 And listen, there are many, many wonderful, wonderful working men and women in the state of New York, but everyone understands that the values in New York City
00:02:22.000 Are socially liberal, are pro-abortion, are pro-gay marriage, focused around money and the media.
00:02:29.000 And I guess I can frame it another way.
00:02:32.000 Not a lot of conservatives come out of Manhattan.
00:02:36.000 I'm just saying.
00:02:37.000 Okay.
00:02:40.000 Conservatives actually do come out of Manhattan, including William F. Buckley and others, just so you understand.
00:02:49.000 New York is a great place.
00:02:50.000 It's got great people.
00:02:51.000 It's got loving people, wonderful people.
00:02:54.000 When the World Trade Center came down,
00:02:57.000 I saw something that no place on earth could have handled more beautifully, more humanely than New York.
00:03:05.000 You had two 110-story buildings come crashing down.
00:03:09.000 I saw them come down.
00:03:10.000 And we saw more death, and even the smell of death.
00:03:14.000 Nobody understood it.
00:03:15.000 And it was with us for months, the smell, the air.
00:03:19.000 And we rebuilt downtown Manhattan, and everybody in the world watched, and everybody in the world loved New York and loved New Yorkers, and I have to tell you, that was a very insulting statement that Ted made.
00:03:34.000 Okay, so, what do we learn from this clip?
00:03:36.000 One, we learn that Cruz should have foreseen the 9-11 attack would come, and two, we learn that Donald Trump is a magnificent douchebag.
00:03:43.000 Because here's the reality.
00:03:45.000 When Ted Cruz says, New York values, there's not a person across America who doesn't know what New York values means.
00:03:50.000 Now, a couple of things have to be said, number one.
00:03:52.000 Does anyone, even people who hate Ted Cruz, truly believe that Ted Cruz was ripping on New Yorkers' response to 9-11?
00:03:59.000 If I talk about Hollywood values,
00:04:01.000 Do I mean that Hollywood is a very leftist place with a very specific set of social values?
00:04:06.000 Or am I criticizing the LAPD for their handling of the 1993 riots?
00:04:11.000 Like, what are you talking about?
00:04:12.000 If I say San Francisco values, am I talking about them being wildly to the left?
00:04:16.000 Or am I talking about their magnificent response to the 1989 earthquake?
00:04:20.000 I think you can probably guess I'm talking about their values, especially because Cruz explicitly says...
00:04:25.000 What those values are, right?
00:04:26.000 They're pro-gay marriage, they're pro-abortion.
00:04:28.000 Okay, all of what Cruz said is true.
00:04:32.000 Now Cruz does something smart in that debate and he starts clapping when Trump says this because he doesn't want to look like he hates the people of New York.
00:04:38.000 Everybody in New York lost their damn mind over this thing.
00:04:41.000 I mean, people were going crazy.
00:04:42.000 How dare you insult New Yorkers and our values?
00:04:44.000 First of all, your attitudes are not your values.
00:04:46.000 Okay, it's a distinction that's important to make.
00:04:48.000 Your attitudes are not your values.
00:04:50.000 Yes, you're rude, you're brash, it's the city that never sleeps.
00:04:53.000 That's an attitude, it's not a value.
00:04:54.000 I know lots of people who are like that who are bad people, I know some people who are like that who are good people.
00:04:59.000 Your attitudes are not your values.
00:05:01.000 I know people who are brash and rude who are Muslim extremists, and I know people who are brash and rude who are New Yorkers just trying to do their day job.
00:05:08.000 You know that brash and rude is not a description of your values,
00:05:12.000 It's a description of your attitude.
00:05:13.000 So the idea that Cruz is ripping on the brash, rude New Yorkers when he says New York values is absolute nonsense.
00:05:21.000 But what are New York values?
00:05:23.000 Well, I think perhaps, you know, Donald Trump, who's a cynical, I mean, this stuff angers me because the fact is I don't like BS attacks on any candidate.
00:05:30.000 It annoys me when there are BS attacks on any candidate.
00:05:33.000 I've defended on this program Trump from nonsense attacks about him supposedly wanting a Muslim registry.
00:05:40.000 I've defended Trump
00:05:41.000 On a variety of issues on this program, but this is a nonsense attack, and I'll prove to you it's a nonsense attack.
00:05:46.000 So Donald Trump acts, he doesn't know, I don't know what New York values are.
00:05:49.000 The only New York values is firefighters running into buildings.
00:05:52.000 First of all, that's not a New York value.
00:05:54.000 That's actually a human value.
00:05:55.000 There are people all over the planet who actually do that, and I understand New Yorkers take justifiable pride in their reaction to 9-11.
00:06:02.000 That's fine, that's wonderful.
00:06:03.000 But to pretend that those values of firefighters running into buildings is unique to New York is to rip on the courage of firefighters outside of New York, which is silly.
00:06:12.000 I mean, you can say these are just wonderful values.
00:06:14.000 They're not unique to New York values in terms of what happened on 9-11.
00:06:19.000 Did people in DC react significantly worse than people in New York on 9-11?
00:06:22.000 I mean, the Pentagon did get hit.
00:06:25.000 But in any case, here is Donald Trump proving that he knows exactly what New York values are.
00:06:29.000 This is from 1999.
00:06:31.000 Notice he has nothing to say about New Yorkers' magnificent response to the 1993 World Trade Center attack.
00:06:36.000 Here's Donald Trump.
00:06:38.000 Do you think gays should be allowed to be married?
00:06:41.000 It's something I haven't given lots of thought to.
00:06:43.000 I live in New York City.
00:06:44.000 There's a tremendous movement on to have and allow gay marriage.
00:06:47.000 It's just something that is too premature for me to comment on.
00:06:50.000 How about gays serving in the military?
00:06:53.000 It would not disturb me.
00:06:56.000 I mean, hey, I lived in New York City and Manhattan all my life, okay?
00:07:00.000 So, you know, my views are a little bit different than if I lived in Iowa.
00:07:03.000 Perhaps.
00:07:04.000 But it's not something that would disturb me.
00:07:07.000 Partial birth abortion.
00:07:08.000 The eliminating of abortion in the third trimester.
00:07:11.000 Big issue in Washington.
00:07:13.000 Would President Trump ban partial birth abortions?
00:07:18.000 Very pro-choice.
00:07:19.000 And, again, it may be a little bit of a New York background because there is some different attitude in different parts of the country and, you know, I was raised in New York and grew up and work and everything else in New York City.
00:07:31.000 But you would not ban it?
00:07:33.000 No.
00:07:33.000 Or ban partial birth control?
00:07:34.000 No.
00:07:34.000 I would, I would, I am, I am pro-choice in every respect and as far as it goes, but I just hate it.
00:07:41.000 Okay, so in that one minute clip, Donald Trump cites his birth and upbringing in New York City five separate times.
00:07:48.000 Five times to justify his support for, by the way, partial birth abortion, which is the most left policy you can have on abortion.
00:07:55.000 Now, the point here is not that Trump hasn't switched his positions on these things.
00:07:58.000 He has, presumably, although I'm even doubtful as to whether he cares about that, but let's assume that he's perfectly sincere.
00:08:04.000 That's not the point.
00:08:05.000 The point is that what did Donald Trump cite as the source of these left-wing values?
00:08:10.000 His upbringing in New York, right?
00:08:12.000 It's his New York values, right?
00:08:14.000 My New York values mean I'm for gay marriage, and I'm for gays in the military, and I'm for partial birth abortion.
00:08:19.000 That's what he cites.
00:08:20.000 He doesn't say my New York values make me brash and rude, and so I think about these things in a brash, rude way.
00:08:25.000 No, he says my New York values mean that I am pro-choice, that I am pro-same-sex marriage.
00:08:31.000 What were the two examples that Ted Cruz used again in that debate?
00:08:34.000 Oh yeah, pro-choice and pro-same-sex marriage is what New York values are.
00:08:38.000 And I'm getting very sick of New Yorkers.
00:08:40.000 I think New Yorkers are making a big deal out of this, but I don't think that New Yorkers understand something kind of crucial.
00:08:45.000 People in the rest of the country find New Yorkers obnoxious.
00:08:48.000 This has only been true for a couple of hundred years.
00:08:50.000 Seriously, like Mark Twain was writing in the 1880s about how obnoxious New Yorkers were.
00:08:55.000 He said that there may be a non-rude New Yorker, but they would have to be dead.
00:08:59.000 They wrote that in 1885.
00:09:01.000 So, like, people have been ripping on New Yorkers for a really long time, and for a pretty good reason.
00:09:05.000 But for people, all the New Yorkers are saying, how dare Ted Cruz suggest that we have a set of values different from anyone else, or just the same as everyone else?
00:09:14.000 It's just a set of American values.
00:09:16.000 Okay, even people on the left don't believe this.
00:09:18.000 They understand there's a difference between, say, Texas values and Chicago values.
00:09:23.000 But if you really want to know what New Yorkers think of the rest of the United States, here they are complaining and whining and complaining and whining.
00:09:29.000 You're so mean to New Yorkers.
00:09:30.000 Okay, I thought you guys, for number one, were supposed to be tough, rough-and-tumble crowd, and you can't take a little bit of a ding from Ted Cruz.
00:09:37.000 Here's what New Yorkers actually think of the rest of the country.
00:09:39.000 This is a cover.
00:09:41.000 Okay, so this is now 40 years old?
00:09:47.000 40 years old?
00:09:48.000 Okay, and what you see, folks, if you haven't subscribed, you can't see it, but here's what you see.
00:09:52.000 It looks like a map of the United States, but what it actually is, it just says 9th Avenue, 10th Avenue, Hudson River, a brief stripe for New Jersey, and then the Pacific Ocean.
00:10:03.000 In other words, to New Yorkers, the rest of the country simply does not exist.
00:10:07.000 Right, New York values encompass also
00:10:10.000 A certain elitism.
00:10:11.000 And they believe that their values are American values, but that American values are not their values.
00:10:16.000 In other words, New York defines America.
00:10:18.000 So don't give me this routine about how New Yorkers don't know what Ted Cruz is talking about.
00:10:22.000 Now, is it smart politics for Cruz to talk like that?
00:10:25.000 Maybe not, in a general election, because you don't want to alienate any part of America.
00:10:29.000 But in a primary, it actually is kind of smart.
00:10:31.000 Because the truth is, nobody in Iowa likes New Yorkers or cares about New Yorkers being offended.
00:10:37.000 In fact, they kind of think it's charming that Ted Cruz doesn't like New Yorkers.
00:10:41.000 Nobody in South Carolina or New Hampshire or anywhere else in the country cares that New Yorkers are offended.
00:10:47.000 Whenever New Yorkers are offended, like, understand something.
00:10:50.000 The reason 9-11 was an outlier in terms of Americans' feelings about New York is because the rest of the time, i.e.
00:10:57.000 99.9% of the rest of the time, we think New Yorkers are obnoxious and terrible.
00:11:01.000 On 9-11, everybody fell into line and loved New Yorkers because New Yorkers showed what wonderful people they can be.
00:11:07.000 But the truth is, New Yorkers are only wonderful people on occasion.
00:11:09.000 And so, and so everybody sort of fell into line on 9-11 because they were wonderful and they demonstrated tremendous bravery on 9-11 and in the face of catastrophe they have before and will again, I'm sure.
00:11:20.000 That's a very different question than, what are their values?
00:11:22.000 Do we resonate to their values?
00:11:24.000 And, by the way, even do we resonate to the attitudes?
00:11:26.000 I mean, it's funny.
00:11:27.000 Chris Christie will go out on stage, and he'll talk about how New Jersey people are rude and obnoxious, and it's a laugh line.
00:11:33.000 Ted Cruz says the same thing about New Yorkers, and it's the end of the world.
00:11:36.000 Which suggests that perhaps this is all just a little bit cynical.
00:11:40.000 Perhaps all of this is just a little bit cynical.
00:11:42.000 And when I say a little cynical,
00:11:44.000 I mean, a lot cynical, because the fact is, again, everybody knows what New York values are.
00:11:49.000 Governor Andrew Cuomo, just a couple of years ago, on the radio, he specifically said that he wanted to ban conservatives from New York.
00:11:55.000 These are New York values, folks.
00:11:57.000 Governor Andrew Cuomo.
00:11:59.000 Their problem is not me and the Democrats.
00:12:03.000 Their problem is themselves.
00:12:05.000 Who are they?
00:12:07.000 Are they these extreme conservatives who are right to life?
00:12:13.000 A pro-assault weapon?
00:12:15.000 Anti-gay?
00:12:18.000 Is that who they are?
00:12:19.000 Because if that's who they are, and if they are the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of New York.
00:12:27.000 Because that's not who New Yorkers are.
00:12:30.000 If they're moderate Republicans, like in the Senate, right?
00:12:35.000 So moderate Republicans can stick around, but extreme conservatives have to go away.
00:12:39.000 Yeah, those are some nice New York values right there.
00:12:43.000 Alright, so we all know what New York values mean.
00:12:46.000 Now, that doesn't mean that Trump is going to stop these ridiculous attacks.
00:12:50.000 So, Jake Tapper...
00:12:53.000 I mean, and the media are all over this.
00:12:55.000 The media have decided that this is the kill shot.
00:12:56.000 Why?
00:12:57.000 Because you have to understand something about the media.
00:12:58.000 The media don't care about America.
00:13:00.000 The media don't care about American values.
00:13:02.000 The media only care when they are being personally attacked or insulted.
00:13:05.000 They're all from New York, and so they are personally insulted that anybody would say something nasty about New York City.
00:13:11.000 Right, by the way, a city that just elected a communist as their mayor with 73% of the vote.
00:13:17.000 So, Jake Tapper, who I think is wildly overrated over at CNN.
00:13:20.000 I know there are a lot of conservatives who like Jake Tapper.
00:13:23.000 I think that Jake Tapper is the best of the worst, which is to say, he's still not great.
00:13:27.000 But here's Jake Tapper asking Donald Trump if Ted Cruz was anti-Semitic, for God's sakes, in saying New York values.
00:13:33.000 I'm a Jew.
00:13:34.000 I'm an Orthodox Jew.
00:13:35.000 I have relatives who live in New York, okay?
00:13:37.000 My sister is in New York right now.
00:13:39.000 I know lots and lots of Jews in New York.
00:13:42.000 If I say New York values, am I being anti-Semitic?
00:13:45.000 Only if you're a complete and utter moron.
00:13:47.000 But the media decided to do this anyway.
00:13:49.000 Here's Jake Tapper.
00:13:50.000 What do you think he means?
00:13:52.000 I'm not sure that he knows what he means, to be honest with you.
00:13:54.000 I thought it was very... He should have never said it.
00:13:57.000 I thought it was very insulting to a lot of people, including Maria, who was asking the question.
00:14:01.000 I thought it was very, very insulting.
00:14:03.000 And I immediately thought of the World Trade Center and the bravery of New Yorkers and the genius of New Yorkers to be able to take that whole section and rebuild after
00:14:13.000 The tragedy, the worst thing that ever happened to our nation in terms of an attack, worse than Pearl Harbor, because Pearl Harbor they were attacking the military, here they're attacking civilians, having breakfast and being in offices.
00:14:24.000 And frankly, you had two 110-story buildings fall down.
00:14:30.000 Thousands of lives, death, and the smell of death.
00:14:33.000 I mean, the smell of death, and to see what happened, that resurrection, that whole thing take place.
00:14:38.000 New York has gotten tremendous credit for it, and for him to be criticizing New York.
00:14:43.000 You know, you're thinking about the firemen running up the stairs, knowing they may never be able to come down.
00:14:47.000 I mean, those buildings were in bad shape.
00:14:49.000 The first one comes down, and the second one, they're running up the stairs.
00:14:52.000 And the policemen and everything else, I thought it was disgraceful that he brought that up.
00:14:57.000 Okay, it's just, this stuff is so perverse.
00:15:00.000 It's so perverse.
00:15:01.000 Rudy Giuliani talked about 9-11 as the mayor of New York City and the media ripped him up over it.
00:15:07.000 Donald Trump cites 9-11 to suggest that Ted Cruz is anti the New Yorkers on 9-11.
00:15:11.000 It's just, it's so cynical and it's such BS.
00:15:13.000 And he's not the only one doing this.
00:15:15.000 Marco Rubio did it too.
00:15:16.000 Rubio was smacking Cruz over the New York values comment.
00:15:18.000 Here's Marco Rubio, the senator from Florida, doing the same thing.
00:15:21.000 Very quickly, you brought up Ted Cruz and his use of the phrase New York values.
00:15:28.000 What does that phrase mean to you?
00:15:31.000 I've never used that phrase.
00:15:32.000 I think we're all Americans.
00:15:33.000 I'm campaigning on behalf of American values.
00:15:36.000 And I don't seek to divide people against each other.
00:15:38.000 That's the problem we have with the current president.
00:15:39.000 I think the bigger problem is Ted has raised a lot of money out of New York.
00:15:43.000 He didn't say that when he was there raising money.
00:15:45.000 He says that in one state and then says something different in another.
00:15:48.000 And time and again it's proven the sort of level of political calculation that voters are only starting to find out about now as the campaign gets deeper and more heated.
00:15:58.000 These people are so tiring.
00:15:59.000 They're so tiring.
00:16:00.000 Everyone knows what New York values means.
00:16:02.000 If I ran for president, I would raise money from New York, too, and Los Angeles, and I also would not want America to embrace the political values of New York, which is what Ted Cruz is talking about, or the moral values of New York, because I think that it's a left area, and I want to see America be more right-wing, not more left-wing.
00:16:20.000 I guess we're all going to pretend now.
00:16:22.000 We've got Donald Trump, the supposed arbiter of political correctness.
00:16:26.000 He's going to say everything that's politically incorrect, except when it comes to New York values, he goes totally PC.
00:16:31.000 Marco Rubio, who says he's anti-PC, going totally PC.
00:16:34.000 And New Yorkers, who say that they're brash and rude and willing to take on the world, except if somebody dings them a little bit and then all of a sudden you prick them, do they not bleed?
00:16:44.000 It's ridiculous stuff.
00:16:45.000 All of this really is just an excuse for Donald Trump to go after Ted Cruz.
00:16:51.000 So Trump's latest attack is one that I actually think is not going to work at all.
00:16:55.000 And this is Trump's attack on Cruz in which he says that nobody likes Ted Cruz.
00:16:59.000 That Ted Cruz is rude and terrible and so nobody likes him.
00:17:01.000 Here's Donald Trump on Fox & Friends this morning about this.
00:17:04.000 Okay, but that's not the way you do it.
00:17:05.000 You get Congress, you get them together, you get everybody together in a room, you cajole, you get along, you have dinner, and you make deals.
00:17:14.000 And, you know, everybody hates Ted.
00:17:15.000 It's a very tough thing.
00:17:16.000 They all hate him.
00:17:17.000 I mean, for a lot of reasons, but they all hate him.
00:17:20.000 And, by the way, he's attacked me, so when he attacks me, as you know, I'm a counterpuncher.
00:17:25.000 You've seen a lot of people.
00:17:27.000 You've all seen a lot of people attack me, and you see where they are right now.
00:17:29.000 But he attacked me first.
00:17:32.000 Well, that's inaccurate.
00:17:33.000 Trump attacked him first with all the Birther stuff, obviously, but it's amazing.
00:17:36.000 So he says that nobody likes Ted Cruz.
00:17:38.000 I'll tell you why this particular line of attack is stupid.
00:17:41.000 I don't want a Republican president who gets along with people.
00:17:45.000 That's not my goal.
00:17:46.000 I want a Republican president who's specifically not going to cut deals with the other side.
00:17:49.000 Trump keeps saying, I'll make a good deal.
00:17:51.000 I don't want you to make any deal with people on the left.
00:17:53.000 I think the people on the left have the worst intentions for the country at heart.
00:17:57.000 So I want a president.
00:17:59.000 I want a Republican who really doesn't care about cutting a deal with folks on the left.
00:18:03.000 I want a president who's going to veto everything left passes.
00:18:06.000 I want a president who's going to use the bully pulpit.
00:18:08.000 I want a president who's going to use executive orders to get rid of all the unconstitutional garbage in the executive branch.
00:18:14.000 So, that's actually a good recommendation for Cruz.
00:18:16.000 I want someone nasty.
00:18:17.000 I want someone who's not liked.
00:18:18.000 I don't need somebody who wants to get along with folks.
00:18:21.000 If I wanted someone who's gonna make friends, I'd back that nice little puppy Marco Rubio, who seems like he makes friends with everybody, and he seems like a nice guy, and he's got good hair, and he seems all nice, and...
00:18:33.000 That's not what I'm looking for.
00:18:34.000 That's not what I'm looking for.
00:18:35.000 Okay, let's move on to the Democratic debate.
00:18:38.000 So that's the fallout from the Republican debate.
00:18:39.000 By the way, Ted Cruz is going to win Iowa.
00:18:42.000 If Trump continues to push on this New York Values thing, I don't think that that's a winner for him.
00:18:47.000 I think he's going to move off of that pretty quickly and start talking about Cruz and Goldman Sachs and suggesting that Cruz is a Wall Street insider.
00:18:53.000 Which, by the way, I think that it's worth noting.
00:18:56.000 Whenever the left attacks Wall Street, nobody ever says, you're attacking all the people who died on Wall Street during the World Trade Center attacks in 2001.
00:19:02.000 Remember, the World Trade Center is on Wall Street.
00:19:04.000 It's at Wall Street.
00:19:05.000 So the idea that you can attack anything is all about Cruz, right?
00:19:10.000 So they don't like Cruz, so they're finding an excuse to go after him.
00:19:13.000 Alright, let's go to the Democratic debate.
00:19:15.000 Democrats held their big debate, their latest big debate, which I really shouldn't call big, last night.
00:19:20.000 It was only two candidates plus Martin O'Malley.
00:19:22.000 It was Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton and then Martin O'Malley they cut to every so often because they just want someone who looked like a leprechaun for comic effect.
00:19:31.000 So Debbie Wasserman Schultz has scheduled all of these things when no one will watch.
00:19:34.000 I think the next Democratic debate is actually during the Super Bowl on like a cable access channel being broadcast from a moving train or something.
00:19:43.000 They definitely don't want anybody seeing these things.
00:19:45.000 Number one, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and I call her Debbie Wasserman Binks because the resemblance is uncanny.
00:19:51.000 I mean, there it is.
00:19:52.000 I mean, Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Jar Jar Binks separated at birth.
00:19:56.000 And folks, this is why you need to subscribe so that you can see my dumb lookalikes.
00:20:00.000 But it is accurate.
00:20:02.000 I mean, Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Jar Jar Binks, they are related.
00:20:05.000 There's just no question about it.
00:20:07.000 And what else is there to say?
00:20:10.000 Debbie Wasserman Schultz, she was asked about why they're holding all of their debates on Sunday nights and Saturday nights and times nobody's watching.
00:20:15.000 And she said, no, no, no, no, no.
00:20:17.000 I want everyone to see these debates.
00:20:18.000 Here's Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
00:20:21.000 We have had a collection of robust viewership that, again, has broken our records for prior debates.
00:20:27.000 And, frankly, we've had, more importantly, a much more substantive and serious discussion where Americans have a chance, instead of watching the food fight happening on the other side of the aisle, get to hear our candidates talk about how they're going to move our country forward.
00:20:41.000 Obviously, it's in television network's interest to have more debate, but it sounds to me like you're not wiggling at all.
00:20:46.000 There's no indication that you might add some to the calendar in the next couple of months.
00:20:51.000 You know, Brian, it's really important that the candidates have a variety of opportunities to be seen by voters.
00:20:57.000 We've had candidate forums and we'll be having additional forums going forward.
00:21:02.000 But that's what kind of frustrates me, the Fusion forum earlier this week, the black and brown forum.
00:21:07.000 You couldn't even see the ratings, they were so low on the Fusion network.
00:21:10.000 I feel like your all's voices aren't getting heard the way they could be if there were more of these events.
00:21:16.000 Well, we believe strongly that a combination of opportunities for voters to see our candidates and make sure that we're not pulling them off the campaign trail every other day to prepare for a debate.
00:21:27.000 We have an early primary state window for a reason.
00:21:29.000 So voters can get that up close and personal look and make sure that
00:21:33.000 Unlike in later primaries, where there's a big collection on multiple Tuesdays, and harder for the candidates to spend that close-up time, that we're giving those candidates and the voters an opportunity to have that really up-close-and-personal kick-the-tires time.
00:21:47.000 A lot more debates would take away from that.
00:21:50.000 Brian, there's no number of debates that will satisfy everyone.
00:21:54.000 So I did my best to make sure, along with my staff and along with our debate partners, to come up with a schedule that we felt was going to allow for the, to maximize the opportunity to vote for voters to see our candidates.
00:22:05.000 I agree with you.
00:22:05.000 There is no amount that would satisfy everyone.
00:22:08.000 On the other hand, your All's Next Debate is February 11th.
00:22:10.000 It's after Iowa and New Hampshire.
00:22:12.000 GOP has two more between now and then.
00:22:14.000 Just seems to me like we're learning a lot more about those candidates.
00:22:17.000 Keep in mind, Brian, they have... I'm sorry, go ahead.
00:22:19.000 They have a dozen candidates and we have three.
00:22:21.000 So, I mean, I understand that, you know, they've got a reality TV star.
00:22:25.000 Okay, we can cut off Jar Jar over here.
00:22:27.000 So, Misa Love Debate.
00:22:29.000 So, Brian Stelter, number one, over at CNN, I mean, if you could see the questioning, this guy is supposed to be unbiased and he's saying to her, I wish I could see more of your candidates because they're so glorious.
00:22:39.000 He's supposed to be the unbiased anchor.
00:22:41.000 But they're clearly trying to hide these people.
00:22:43.000 There's a reason they're trying to hide the Democrats during the primaries.
00:22:46.000 During the primaries is when the Democrats say all of their crazy crap.
00:22:49.000 All of their crazy crap gets said during the primaries.
00:22:51.000 So, for example, Hillary Clinton last night in the debate, she was asked about cops and Black Lives Matter, and here is what Hillary Rodham Clinton, the most charming woman ever to walk the earth, the godlike witness to her own power, here's what she had to say about cops.
00:23:07.000 Well, sadly, it's reality.
00:23:10.000 And it has been
00:23:13.000 Heartbreaking and incredibly outraging to see the constant stories of young men like Walter Scott, as you said, who have been killed by police officers.
00:23:29.000 There needs to be a concerted effort to address
00:23:33.000 The systemic racism in our criminal justice system and that requires a very clear agenda for retraining police officers
00:23:46.000 Looking at ways to end racial profiling, finding more ways to really bring the disparities that stalk our country into high relief.
00:23:58.000 Just in time for Martin Luther King Day, she says that we have to get rid of this whole one standard of justice.
00:24:03.000 For everybody, we need two standards of justice, okay?
00:24:05.000 The number of black people...
00:24:07.000 That cop is being prosecuted for first degree murder and there is no one on the right side or left side of the aisle who thought that he shouldn't have been prosecuted for first degree murder.
00:24:13.000 It was a really bad case and everyone agreed it was a really bad case.
00:24:16.000 But she has to spit out all of these, all of this pablum.
00:24:17.000 By the way,
00:24:34.000 One out of three African American men may well end up
00:25:02.000 Going to prison.
00:25:04.000 That's the statistic.
00:25:05.000 I want people here to think what we would be doing if it was one out of three white men.
00:25:11.000 And very often the black men are arrested, convicted, and incarcerated for offenses that do not lead to the same results for white men.
00:25:21.000 So we have a very serious problem that we can no longer ignore.
00:25:26.000 Okay, that is not true in the slightest.
00:25:28.000 1 out of 3 black men are not in prison.
00:25:30.000 That's ridiculous.
00:25:31.000 Okay, there are 15, let's see, we're a 10% black country.
00:25:34.000 That means there are approximately 30 million black people in the country.
00:25:37.000 That means there are 15 million black males in the country.
00:25:39.000 Okay, there are not 5 million black males in prison.
00:25:42.000 That's insane.
00:25:43.000 Okay, the entire prison population of the United States is 2 million people.
00:25:46.000 What she's saying is crazy.
00:25:48.000 Okay, what's amazing is the way the media treat this stuff, by the way.
00:25:50.000 The Washington posted a fact check on this, and they said, The Bureau of Justice Statistics compiles annual reports on the constitution of U.S.
00:25:57.000 prisons.
00:25:58.000 At the end of 2014, 453,000 white men were in state or federal prison, compared with 517,000 black men.
00:26:05.000 As a proportion of the national population, it's a staggering difference, blah blah blah blah blah.
00:26:10.000 But the fact is that that is not even close to 1 in 3, of course.
00:26:14.000 It's not true in any sense.
00:26:16.000 The Washington Post says her point was valid anyway.
00:26:18.000 The Washington Post says everything she says is wrong, but her point is valid.
00:26:24.000 Yeah, no, it's not.
00:26:25.000 It's not.
00:26:26.000 And by the way, which of those criminals do you want to let out?
00:26:28.000 I always want to ask Hillary Clinton this and Bernie Sanders.
00:26:30.000 So which of those criminals do you want to let out?
00:26:31.000 The pandering never stops, by the way.
00:26:34.000 Bernie Sanders, apparently.
00:26:35.000 Killer Mike, who's a rapper, I guess.
00:26:38.000 Killer Mike has endorsed Bernie Sanders.
00:26:39.000 He came out today, he said he endorsed Bernie Sanders for two reasons.
00:26:42.000 One, he was smoking pot.
00:26:43.000 Two, he was reading Bernie's tweets.
00:26:44.000 Seriously, that was his rationale for endorsing Bernie Sanders.
00:26:47.000 Which, by the way, at least one of those two things is the reason everyone endorses Bernie Sanders, and isn't reading his tweets.
00:26:53.000 So, Hillary Clinton is moving far to the left.
00:26:56.000 Bernie Sanders is doing so, too.
00:26:57.000 He's pulling her to the left.
00:26:59.000 One of the things that's telling, I think, is that in these debates, Hillary Clinton is tying herself very strongly to Barack Obama.
00:27:05.000 The reason that she's doing this is twofold.
00:27:07.000 One is, she has not a lot of draw with black folks.
00:27:10.000 Black folks are not that enthused about Hillary Clinton.
00:27:13.000 She hopes by tying herself to Obama that suddenly they'll become enthused.
00:27:16.000 That's number one.
00:27:17.000 Number two is, Hillary Clinton basically got blackmailed into being Barack Obama's biggest supporter when the Obama administration dumped all of this criminal investigation stuff on her.
00:27:27.000 Edward Klein was a reporter for the New York Post.
00:27:30.000 And just a few months ago he reported, I think it was about eight months ago, he reported that it was Valerie Jarrett of the Obama administration who originally leaked the news that Hillary was using a private email server.
00:27:41.000 And so the Obama administration leaked all this out to put pressure on Hillary and naturally she has been moving over to the Obama administration side all throughout this debate process.
00:27:51.000 Hillary, by the way, the number one question that was asked about Hillary Clinton in the Google searches during and after this debate, the number one question was, will Hillary Clinton be prosecuted?
00:28:03.000 That was the number one question that was being Googled yesterday during this debate.
00:28:07.000 And the answer is, it depends on what Barack Obama feels like, really.
00:28:11.000 And by the way, Jake Tapper asked Hillary, if the FBI has questioned her about her server, if you want to watch her get super, super, duper nervous and upset, watch this clip.
00:28:18.000 Jake Tapper on CNN.
00:28:20.000 One last question for you.
00:28:22.000 In terms of the status of the FBI investigation into your private email server, have you been interviewed by the FBI yet?
00:28:30.000 No.
00:28:32.000 You haven't.
00:28:33.000 All right.
00:28:33.000 Secretary Clinton, thanks so much.
00:28:35.000 Really appreciate your time.
00:28:36.000 Good luck at the debate tonight.
00:28:38.000 Oh, that is the death glare.
00:28:41.000 And Bill Clinton has received that on more than one occasion, by the way.
00:28:43.000 Bill Clinton has received that a lot, I would imagine.
00:28:46.000 Hillary says that she will take Bill's advice in this campaign.
00:28:49.000 She looks forward to using him on the campaign trail.
00:28:51.000 At the same time, apparently Linda Tripp is now coming out and saying that Monica Lewinsky told her that Bill had had sex with literally over a thousand women while married to Hillary Clinton, and also that there was a second person in the White House that Bill was having sex with.
00:29:05.000 Well, well, the Monica thing was going on.
00:29:09.000 The fact that we're even talking about Bill coming back into the White House is really kind of sickening.
00:29:13.000 Okay, back to the other side of the aisle for just a second.
00:29:15.000 Donald Trump, you know, we were talking about the Republican debate.
00:29:18.000 Donald Trump is campaigning now for the evangelical vote.
00:29:20.000 He wants to win the debate.
00:29:21.000 He wants to win the primary in Iowa.
00:29:23.000 If Trump wins the primary in Iowa, Trump probably wins the nomination.
00:29:27.000 If he wins Iowa, he will win New Hampshire, which means he'll win South Carolina.
00:29:31.000 He could in fact run the table if he wins Iowa.
00:29:33.000 So he's pushing very hard for the evangelical vote.
00:29:35.000 Today he was over at Liberty University, and Liberty University hosted him, and he was introduced by Jerry Falwell Jr., Jerry Falwell's son.
00:29:43.000 And Jerry Falwell's son said that Trump was a great Christian, and Trump then cited two Corinthians.
00:29:48.000 Which is not the name of, it's not like Five Guys Burgers.
00:29:51.000 It's like Two Corinthians is apparently Second Corinthians, is what it's called.
00:29:55.000 Trump doesn't know that, so he called it Two Corinthians apparently.
00:29:58.000 And then Trump proceeded to talk about his religious scruples.
00:30:02.000 He's really pushing hard for the evangelical vote now.
00:30:05.000 Here is Donald Trump talking over the weekend to Jake Tapper about his religious scruples.
00:30:10.000 I mean, when I say that Trump is insincere, this is what I mean.
00:30:13.000 Let me ask you, because one of the potential attack lines has to do with an answer you gave to Frank Luntz months ago when you said that you've never asked God for forgiveness.
00:30:24.000 Do you regret making that remark?
00:30:25.000 No, I have great relationship with God.
00:30:28.000 I have great relationship with
00:30:30.000 The Evangelicals.
00:30:31.000 In fact, nationwide, I'm up by a lot.
00:30:34.000 I'm leaving everybody.
00:30:36.000 But I like to be good.
00:30:37.000 I don't like to have to ask for forgiveness.
00:30:40.000 And I am good.
00:30:40.000 I don't do a lot of things that are bad.
00:30:42.000 I try and do nothing that's bad.
00:30:44.000 I live a very different life than probably a lot of people would think.
00:30:48.000 And I have a very great relationship with God.
00:30:53.000 And I have a very great relationship with the Evangelicals.
00:30:56.000 And I think that's why I'm doing so well with Iowa.
00:31:01.000 Evangelicals, I have to ask you one question.
00:31:04.000 Are you out of your damn minds?
00:31:07.000 Okay, if you actually believe that Donald Trump has a great relationship with God, that he spends a lot of time thinking about God every day... Okay, I'm a deeply religious person.
00:31:15.000 I know lots of deeply religious people.
00:31:17.000 I have yet to identify a deeply religious person who says they never...
00:31:21.000 Say sorry to God.
00:31:22.000 They never do repentance, they never do penance, because they try to do good things every day.
00:31:26.000 I've also never heard a religious person say, I have a great relationship with God, I have a great relationship with evangelicals.
00:31:32.000 Like in the same sentence.
00:31:34.000 Okay, that's called pandering.
00:31:36.000 Okay, he says that the same way that he says he has great relationships with Democrats, or the Chinese, or the Russians.
00:31:41.000 My relationship with God is not on the same plane as my political relations with other people.
00:31:46.000 First of all, I don't have the confidence to say that my relationship with God is great.
00:31:49.000 It's really more of His determination than mine.
00:31:53.000 I feel like I have deep and abiding knowledge of God in my own heart, and I believe deeply in God's providence in the world.
00:32:02.000 That doesn't mean that I can say with great pride that I have a great relationship with, like, me and God, we're like this.
00:32:07.000 Like, that's really not my call.
00:32:09.000 Like, God is the one who knows if we're like this, right?
00:32:11.000 I mean, like, I feel close to God, and that's wonderful, but I would never say I have a great relationship with God.
00:32:16.000 I have a great relationship with Jeremy, right, my friend.
00:32:19.000 Like, what is this?
00:32:21.000 They're not on the same plane.
00:32:23.000 Because I can, like, Jeremy talks back to me.
00:32:25.000 We can talk about when we're having issues.
00:32:27.000 Like, God is not famous for getting back to me very often.
00:32:30.000 It's mostly me leaving God messages and God sometimes answering, but I can't, that's me just trying to interpret his answers, sometimes it's not what I want.
00:32:36.000 It's such irreligious, silly language, but I guess if you're gonna buy into it, you're gonna buy into it.
00:32:41.000 Donald Trump at one point a few months ago was asked by Mark Halperin what was his favorite Bible verse.
00:32:46.000 And again, you wanna vote for him, vote for him.
00:32:47.000 I just think that, let's not be stupid here, folks.
00:32:50.000 And saying that he's a deeply religious guy, listen, I've said Barack Obama's not a deeply religious guy, because he's not.
00:32:55.000 Donald Trump does not strike me as a deeply religious man, end of story.
00:33:00.000 Donald Trump was asked a few months ago about his favorite Bible verse, and his actual answer was he wouldn't say it because the real reason is because he can't cite a Bible verse.
00:33:07.000 But he said, what was your favorite Bible verse?
00:33:09.000 He said, it's too private.
00:33:11.000 I don't want to tell you what my favorite Bible verse is.
00:33:14.000 And Mark Halpern went, wait, wait, it's too private?
00:33:16.000 Like everybody's read that document.
00:33:17.000 It's not like we're talking about love letters here.
00:33:19.000 I mean, everyone's read the Bible.
00:33:20.000 It's the most widely read document in the history of mankind.
00:33:23.000 He said, no, no, no, it's too private.
00:33:24.000 It's too private for me.
00:33:25.000 Okay.
00:33:26.000 Really?
00:33:27.000 Is it?
00:33:27.000 I mean, there are a few that I can name off the top of my head that I'm a real big fan of.
00:33:31.000 And I can cite them in the original Hebrew.
00:33:34.000 Very big fan of... Right?
00:33:38.000 That means that... Make your plans and plan your plans, God is with me.
00:33:43.000 Right?
00:33:44.000 Lots of Bible verses are wonderful.
00:33:46.000 This whole thing is...
00:33:48.000 Uh, it's so cynical, and I guess that that's what we've come to.
00:33:51.000 And again, I'm not somebody who's been bashing Trump this whole time, I'm really not, but I think that we've now reached the edge of the rational.
00:33:57.000 Okay.
00:33:58.000 Time for some things that I like and some things that I don't like.
00:34:01.000 So, instead of doing something that I like today, I'm gonna do, just, I wanna tell you what's on my reading list right now, because that way maybe we can read these things together.
00:34:08.000 So I just finished a book called The Wisdom of Crowds that's very good.
00:34:11.000 And that I enjoyed a lot.
00:34:12.000 I'm also reading David Copperfield, and I know that Clavin, Drew, is a huge Dickens fan, and I have to say, I think Dickens is overrated.
00:34:20.000 This may be an unpopular opinion, I'm 690 pages into David Copperfield, and I'm waiting for it to get good.
00:34:27.000 So it's, there's only 50 pages left.
00:34:29.000 There's not that much time left.
00:34:30.000 So he's, it's not that it's bad, it's just really long-winded, and he was paid by the word, and so that makes perfect sense.
00:34:36.000 If I were paid by the word, I'd write a lot too.
00:34:38.000 But it's, it's,
00:34:40.000 He has sections that are wonderful, and then he has 200 pages of description of the chancellery, and I just... okay.
00:34:46.000 So it's entertaining, it's fine, I'm not in love with it.
00:34:50.000 I have a bunch of other Dickens books on my shelf, I'll have to maybe read through more of them, but this is legitimately the first book that I have spent the time bullying through, like, where I got halfway through and I was like, should I put this away?
00:34:59.000 And then I said no.
00:35:01.000 Like, normally when I ask that question, it immediately goes on the shelf, but this one I actually bulled my way through.
00:35:05.000 And I have to say, like, it's good bedtime reading because it's not gonna keep you up at night, you're not gonna stay up all night reading David Copperfield.
00:35:11.000 So, that's what's on my, that's what's on my shelf.
00:35:14.000 And I'll tell you what's on my shelf tomorrow, hopefully I'll finish that book tonight, because if not, I don't know if I can, I don't know if I can handle it.
00:35:19.000 Alright, things that I hate.
00:35:21.000 BuzzFeed has now, just in time for Martin Luther King Day, they've put out a video on the struggles that certain Americans face.
00:35:29.000 That video is called The Struggle of Being a Mixed Race.
00:35:33.000 The Struggle of Being a Mixed Race.
00:35:35.000 So, I know that we all think that black people have it rough, and Hispanic people have it rough, and Asian people have it rough.
00:35:40.000 We all have it rough.
00:35:41.000 But now there's a special category of rough.
00:35:43.000 The special category is if you're half black, or if you're half Hispanic, or if you're half Asian.
00:35:48.000 So, BuzzFeed, tell me about the struggles of being mixed race.
00:35:52.000 I think I'm what Hollywood would call ethnically ambiguous.
00:36:03.000 When people first glance at me, I mean, the first thing they see is a white guy.
00:36:06.000 And usually I'll have to end up explaining to people that I am half Mexican and half white.
00:36:10.000 No one has ever been able to correctly identify who I am my entire life.
00:36:16.000 I've gotten Cuban, Puerto Rican, Dominican, half black, half white.
00:36:21.000 People think I'm Asian.
00:36:24.000 Egyptian, Polynesian, Asian.
00:36:27.000 Fully white or fully Asian.
00:36:29.000 Almost everyone misreads me in some way.
00:36:31.000 It's very hard to guess Danish and Indian from a first glance.
00:36:35.000 I've honestly heard everything.
00:36:36.000 Sometimes I wish I could walk in and just like be recognized as like a Mexican-American.
00:36:41.000 Sometimes people will come up to me on the street and like start speaking Spanish frantically and I can't respond because I don't speak Spanish.
00:36:48.000 I find that depending on where I am, people read me differently.
00:36:52.000 They tend to think that I'm whatever they are.
00:36:54.000 These are the saddest, most pathetic people in the world.
00:36:56.000 First of all, the music.
00:36:57.000 I mean, this is like an emphysema commercial, right?
00:37:00.000 You got the meaningful piano music in the background, and you think they're gonna tell you about how they lost their leg in Nam or something?
00:37:06.000 Like, it's gonna be a real moving story?
00:37:08.000 Or I have a child who died of bone marrow cancer or something?
00:37:12.000 No.
00:37:12.000 It's that I walk up on the street and somebody doesn't know that I'm half Danish and half Indian.
00:37:17.000 Like, who's gonna guess that?
00:37:18.000 I'm sorry, we talk about going off the board for an ethnic selection right there.
00:37:22.000 Like, who's gonna go, oh, yeah, I got that right away.
00:37:25.000 I looked at you and you were half Danish, half Indian.
00:37:26.000 First of all, if you think of somebody in those racial terms, the first thing you think about is them and racial.
00:37:30.000 Isn't that the problem?
00:37:32.000 If I look at you and the first thing I go is, oh.
00:37:34.000 That one's probably an octoroon.
00:37:36.000 Isn't that a problem?
00:37:37.000 I thought that's what we've been fighting against, right?
00:37:39.000 It's Martin Luther King Day here, folks.
00:37:41.000 I thought that the idea was, I'm not supposed to judge you based on what your ethnicity is.
00:37:46.000 I'm supposed to judge you based on whether you're a good person or not and you do good things.
00:37:49.000 You know, there's people whining now that I can't identify you.
00:37:53.000 Right, oh, I guess that if only I had known that you have one black grandparent, that would have changed everything.
00:37:59.000 What?
00:38:00.000 Why is it these kids, and they're kids, I mean, they're all young people.
00:38:03.000 I mean, the guy who looks, for folks who can't see, the guy who's talking about being half Mexican definitely looks like a white guy, right?
00:38:09.000 I mean, he looks fully like a white guy with the red, ruddy cheeks.
00:38:13.000 I mean, he looks like he's just, he's 40 years early for Santa.
00:38:18.000 But I guess he has a rough life because people don't identify him as Mexican.
00:38:22.000 For most of human history, most of human history, people were upset that people could identify them ethnically.
00:38:29.000 For most of human history, people were trying to pass as ethnicities that were not theirs if they were part of a minority.
00:38:35.000 Now they're upset that you can't properly identify them as the ethnic minority from whence they sprang.
00:38:40.000 You can't have it both ways.
00:38:42.000 Right?
00:38:42.000 A society in which we force people to pass for white, which used to happen in the country in order to be treated properly, is a nasty society.
00:38:50.000 And now, we're saying to people that you can be whatever you want to be, and then they're upset about it.
00:38:56.000 We're not going to identify you by race.
00:38:57.000 They go, well, with the meaningful piano music underneath.
00:39:01.000 Again, I mean, when you first hear this, this sounds like a 30 for 30 special on ESPN, and we're going to talk about their poor childhoods.
00:39:08.000 They grew up in a closet somewhere, beaten by their parents, and... It's just... What a self-indulgent, ridiculous society we have become.
00:39:16.000 When your biggest complaint against the freest society on the face of the planet and in human history is that people cannot properly identify you as half Danish and half Indian.
00:39:25.000 What in the world?
00:39:26.000 Okay, so I got a bunch of emails also over the weekend.
00:39:28.000 Last thing.
00:39:28.000 I got a bunch of emails over the weekend.
00:39:30.000 Last Wednesday, I guess, I mentioned that I wanted to talk comic books a little bit on the program.
00:39:35.000 And, uh, and I didn't do it.
00:39:37.000 And so I got a lot of people who are asking me if I could talk comic books.
00:39:39.000 So I will do it briefly here.
00:39:41.000 Talk about some comic books.
00:39:43.000 They're destroying the comic books industry.
00:39:45.000 Okay, like, truly destroying the comic books industry.
00:39:47.000 So, the latest author for the Black Panther series is Ta-Nehisi Coates.
00:39:50.000 Ta-Nehisi Coates is a radical racialist, and he is writing for D.C.
00:39:55.000 now.
00:39:56.000 Black Panther is not supposed to be a superhero, now he's gonna be a fighter on behalf of black liberation or some such nonsense.
00:40:03.000 They had a picture from the D.C.
00:40:05.000 meeting, I guess, a few weeks ago, and at this D.C.
00:40:08.000 meeting, excuse me, at the D.C.
00:40:10.000 meeting,
00:40:11.000 They actually had, um, it was a ton of heesey coats, and there's a Muslim gal, I guess, who writes for DC Comics wearing the hijab now, and it was just a bunch of lefties figuring out how they could infuse the comics with leftism.
00:40:24.000 And it makes me absolutely crazy, because I really enjoy the comic books, and they're getting worse and worse.
00:40:28.000 Captain America is now cracking down on anti-illegal immigration groups, and you've got Superman fighting the cops in one of the latest Superman cartoons, in one of the latest Batman, in one of the latest Batman comic books by Brian Nazarello,
00:40:41.000 There's a scene where a cop shoots young Trayvon Martin, basically.
00:40:45.000 And it's getting worse and worse, because they've decided that they're now going to take over every element of our culture, and it really makes me upset.
00:40:51.000 Now, there was always something, mildly, to the left about the comics.
00:40:54.000 There really was.
00:40:55.000 And that is, the comics now... Less so.
00:40:58.000 Less so.
00:40:58.000 It used to be less so, really.
00:40:59.000 The comics now focus almost entirely on backstory.
00:41:03.000 Everything is backstory.
00:41:03.000 What happened to these comic book characters as children?
00:41:07.000 And we're doing that now with Han Solo.
00:41:09.000 I guess there's a new movie they're gonna do where they back-cast Han Solo and they talk about what he was like as a teenager.
00:41:15.000 Let me make something clear about... We got Batman's origin story, right?
00:41:18.000 Batman... There are a couple of them who have cool origin stories.
00:41:20.000 Batman, Superman have cool origin stories.
00:41:22.000 All the rest of the origin stories blow.
00:41:24.000 Okay, those are the only two origin stories that are worth anything.
00:41:28.000 Mathis is shaking his head.
00:41:29.000 Who else has a good origin story, man?
00:41:31.000 No!
00:41:32.000 Spider-Man has a terrible origin story.
00:41:34.000 Captain America's origin story isn't really an origin- it kind of is an origin story, right?
00:41:38.000 I mean, his origin story is that he's missing for 70 years.
00:41:41.000 Right?
00:41:41.000 I mean, like, that's his origin story.
00:41:43.000 So all of his development takes place while he's encased in ice, basically, because time moves on and he's just who he was back in 1945.
00:41:50.000 But Iron Man's origin story is okay, but you could get rid of Iron Man's origin story and he'd still be cool.
00:41:58.000 Right?
00:41:58.000 If you got rid of Iron Man's origin story, he would still be this really cool machinist who makes cool
00:42:03.000 We'll have to bleep that.
00:42:05.000 But he's this really cool machinist who makes cool stuff and has an implant in his chest.
00:42:13.000 His persona is that he's a cynical libertarian.
00:42:15.000 That's his thing.
00:42:15.000 He's a cynical libertarian.
00:42:16.000 That's Iron Man.
00:42:17.000 If you didn't know anything about him beforehand, he'd still be cool because he's a cynical libertarian.
00:42:21.000 Captain America, if you didn't know his backstory, there's no flaw in his character that needs to be explained by a backstory.
00:42:27.000 Superman, you need to explain his backstory because he's actually an alien from another planet.
00:42:30.000 How did he get formed on Earth is part of the entire story.
00:42:33.000 Batman, you need to explain the conceit.
00:42:36.000 Why he doesn't kill people, right?
00:42:37.000 That's the big thing.
00:42:38.000 Why is a rich guy bent on revenge?
00:42:39.000 That's really the Batman question.
00:42:42.000 So you need to answer that.
00:42:43.000 Captain America, there's nothing that needs answering.
00:42:45.000 Captain America is just a guy who fights bad guys in an old-fashioned way.
00:42:49.000 Iron Man is just a cynical libertarian who's super rich.
00:42:51.000 So you actually don't need a backstory for those two.
00:42:54.000 The reason that I'm anti-backstory as a general rule is because backstory is people's way of explaining why they do stupid crap in their lives.
00:43:01.000 Backstory is what we do, if you're a defense lawyer in a criminal case, backstory is making of a murderer.
00:43:06.000 Backstory is where we explain how you were beaten as a child, and that's why you torture kittens and rape people.
00:43:11.000 In the comic books, comic books are different from the Bible.
00:43:14.000 Actually, the comic books are much more like the pagan universe, which makes sense.
00:43:18.000 I mean, they are pagan, which is not to say that they're bad.
00:43:21.000 I mean, there's a lot of, I think that reading Greek myths is worthwhile.
00:43:24.000 Greek myths are all about the backstory of the various gods, because the idea is the gods are supposed to be just like you and me, right?
00:43:31.000 Gods are human beings, and they're supposed to be just like you and me.
00:43:35.000 Religion is the opposite.
00:43:36.000 Religion is that God is not you and me.
00:43:38.000 If we make God over into our own image,
00:43:40.000 Then we are committing a grave sin.
00:43:42.000 We're actually taking God's name in vain.
00:43:43.000 That's why when you read the Bible, what does it say about any of the main characters in the Bible?
00:43:47.000 They're born because they're lineage, and then we go straight to them doing stuff.
00:43:50.000 Right?
00:43:51.000 You never know.
00:43:51.000 What was Moses doing at age 13?
00:43:54.000 No clue.
00:43:55.000 What was Jesus doing at age 13?
00:43:57.000 No clue.
00:43:58.000 Right?
00:43:58.000 What were any of these?
00:43:59.000 We don't know.
00:44:00.000 Right?
00:44:00.000 Wouldn't you think that, I mean, especially in the New Testament, if you're talking about God on earth, wouldn't you want to know what he was like as a teenager?
00:44:07.000 God doesn't care.
00:44:08.000 He didn't tell you, according to the Christians, right?
00:44:10.000 Not my book, but for the Christians, that's a holy writ.
00:44:13.000 So, you know, in the Old Testament, same thing with Moses.
00:44:15.000 Wouldn't I like to know what it was like growing up as an ethnic Jew in the court of the... in Pharaoh's court?
00:44:22.000 Yeah, it seems like that might be good in... God doesn't care.
00:44:25.000 God didn't see fit to tell us, right?
00:44:26.000 Because the bottom line is that Moses is responsible for Moses's actions from the time he becomes an adult.
00:44:31.000 And you can tell a great adventure story with the character fully formed.
00:44:35.000 All that matters is the decisions that they're making.
00:44:37.000 And in fact, it makes them cooler, right?
00:44:40.000 Han Solo, his backstory being told, actually makes him uncool.
00:44:43.000 I don't want to know who Han Solo was as a teenager.
00:44:46.000 I don't want to know why he had an arrested stage of development, he met a girl, the girl got killed, he became a cynic.
00:44:52.000 I don't care.
00:44:53.000 I want the guy who, I walk into the bar and he's shooting Greedo, and yes, he shot first, right?
00:44:57.000 That's what I want.
00:44:58.000 I want him, I want him to arrive fully formed on the stage, he's badass, and that's what you love about him.
00:45:04.000 That's the cool thing about Han Solo.
00:45:06.000 The comic books have now gotten very involved in the backstories of all of these people, and it's kind of...
00:45:12.000 It's kind of annoying, a little bit.
00:45:14.000 Like, I wanna know how does Superman deal with the great tension in his life, right?
00:45:19.000 This is why you need the Superman backstory, but even without that, right now, I already know his backstory.
00:45:23.000 His backstory doesn't need to be messed with, by the way.
00:45:25.000 His backstory is great, because there's always the tension between he's God, but he's also a man, right?
00:45:30.000 He's supposed to be Jesus.
00:45:30.000 That's who Superman is supposed to be, and everyone who reads Superman knows this, which is why in Superman Returns, there are half a dozen poses of him with his arms outstretched, floating above Earth, right?
00:45:40.000 I mean, it's obvious, the symbolism.
00:45:42.000 The idea is, his conflict, Superman's conflict is, do I become God?
00:45:46.000 Or do I let people make their own decisions?
00:45:49.000 Right?
00:45:49.000 That's Superman's conflict.
00:45:51.000 And Wonder Woman's conflict, she doesn't have any conflict.
00:45:53.000 Wonder Woman is, I'm just gonna take over everything.
00:45:56.000 And Batman's thing is, I'm, you know, trying to fight crime on a day-to-day level, but I'm doing so as somebody who is, you know, the most privileged class.
00:46:04.000 Okay, all of this is interesting and you don't need a backstory for it.
00:46:07.000 One of my great objections is that the comics have now become all about the backstory all the time.
00:46:11.000 And I don't think the backstory is nearly as interesting as the conflicts that could be created between these various ideologies.
00:46:17.000 I'd like to see more of that in the comic books, but I don't think we will.
00:46:20.000 I think we'll instead get all this back- Black Panther, it will turn out,
00:46:24.000 According to Ta-Nehisi Coates, was Trayvon Martin.
00:46:26.000 He was shot and survived and became buff and decided that the cops were racist or some such nonsense.
00:46:31.000 And I don't care about that story.
00:46:32.000 I don't.
00:46:32.000 I want stories about good and I want stories about evil and I want stories about the in-between.
00:46:37.000 But what I don't care about is why you lost your dog when it was hit by a car when you were 14 and you got all sad about it.
00:46:45.000 This is why I think Peter Parker's backstory is dumb.
00:46:48.000 I think Spider-Man's backstory is silly.
00:46:50.000 Because there's no conflict for Spider-Man.
00:46:54.000 Of all the comic book characters, Spider-Man is the most overrated.
00:46:57.000 Spider-Man is wildly overrated.
00:46:59.000 Spider-Man is literally just a teenager who shoots webs.
00:47:01.000 That's his entire thing.
00:47:04.000 And by the way, he got bit by a spider.
00:47:07.000 That's your backstory?
00:47:08.000 Really?
00:47:10.000 Cool backstory, dude.
00:47:11.000 I got bit by a spider, too.
00:47:12.000 I didn't turn into a superhero.
00:47:14.000 Like, if the backstory could have happened to me, I'm not interested in the backstory.
00:47:17.000 I wasn't born on another planet.
00:47:19.000 That's a cool backstory.
00:47:20.000 My parents weren't shot when I was a kid.
00:47:22.000 That would be a dramatic backstory.
00:47:23.000 It would be a horrible backstory.
00:47:24.000 Bit by a spider?
00:47:28.000 My wife got bit by a spider also, and then I killed the spider.
00:47:31.000 I'm sorry, it's a bad backstory.
00:47:32.000 But we'll have more comic book talk, I'm sure, as we continue in future episodes of The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:47:38.000 And you can send all of your hate mail to bshapiro at dailywire.com.
00:47:41.000 I'm Ben Shapiro, this is The Ben Shapiro Show.