The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 57 - The Establishment Hates Cruz More Than Trump

00:00:00.000 Donald Trump is about to have a very good day.

00:00:02.000 Ted Cruz is about to have a not very good day.

00:00:04.000 We'll talk about all of it.

00:00:06.000 Plus, we'll get to Amy Schumer, among the things I do not like.

00:00:10.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:10.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:18.000 Alright, so the big news today out of Iowa is that Donald Trump said last night on Twitter that he was about to have a very special guest into Iowa to help him announce, and it was going to be a big announcement, something big was going to happen, and it wasn't going to be Oprah Winfrey, and there was a lot of speculation.

00:00:34.000 Who was going to come in and endorse Donald Trump?

00:00:37.000 And after a few minutes, the speculation centered on former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, the 2006-2008, sorry, Republican vice presidential nominee.

00:00:48.000 And that has basically been confirmed at this point.

00:00:50.000 Sarah Palin had her daughter, Bristol Palin, write a piece today.

00:00:53.000 I'm not gonna say she forced her to do it or anything, but Bristol Palin wrote a piece today over her blog talking about how Sarah Palin ought to endorse Donald Trump, and then Sarah Palin promptly tweeted it.

00:01:03.000 Her private jet was set to land in Des Moines today and then continue on to Tulsa, Oklahoma, which is where Trump is scheduled to campaign next.

00:01:11.000 So all of the signs were out there that Sarah Palin was going to endorse Donald Trump.

00:01:15.000 And with those signs out there, one of Ted Cruz's spokespeople appeared on CNN and was asked about this potential endorsement.

00:01:21.000 Here's what Ted Cruz's spokesperson, I think his name is Rick Tyler, had to say.

00:01:25.000 I think it would blow Sarah Palin, because Sarah Palin has been a champion for the conservative cause, and if she was going to endorse Donald Trump, then sadly she would be endorsing someone who's held progressive views all their life on the sanctity of life, on marriage, on partial birth abortion, he was a tarp, supported tarp bailout, I mean it goes on and on and on.

00:01:46.000 Donald Trump claims he's changed all those views, but I just, I think, if it was Sarah Palin, let me just say I'd be deeply disappointed.

00:01:54.000 Okay, so he's right that Sarah Palin is conservative and Donald Trump is not conservative.

00:01:59.000 And in a minute, I'm going to go through all the reasons I know that Donald Trump isn't conservative for all of those of you who are big Donald Trump fans.

00:02:05.000 And I've really tried my best to be as honest as possible about what I think of these particular candidates.

00:02:11.000 I've told you before, if the primaries were held today, I would vote for Ted Cruz.

00:02:15.000 I'd vote for him easily over the other candidates.

00:02:17.000 I've also talked about a lot of the flaws I think I see in Ted Cruz as a candidate, a lot of the flaws I see in the Cruz campaign.

00:02:23.000 I've defended Donald Trump from unfair attacks, but Donald Trump is not a conservative.

00:02:27.000 Putting that aside for just a moment, Bristol Palin wrote today, quote, Cruz's flip-flop, turning against my mom who's done nothing but support and help him when others sure didn't, shows he's a typical politician, because Sarah Palin endorsed

00:02:39.000 Ted Cruz back in 2012 against Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst.

00:02:43.000 Bristol writes, how rude that he's setting up a false narrative about her.

00:02:47.000 Sarah Palin then tweeted that out.

00:03:11.000 I want to talk for a moment about why Sarah Palin would do this, and then I want to get into how this will impact the race.

00:03:16.000 So, why would Sarah Palin do this? 1.00

00:03:18.000 Well, Sarah Palin does feel a personal kinship with Donald Trump.

00:03:21.000 We know going back months that they've been meeting at Trump Tower, that they're very friendly.

00:03:25.000 Sarah Palin wrote a piece several months ago in which she talked about how Trump was sort of taking it to the media.

00:03:31.000 And Palin, on a personal level, is used to being hit by the same people who are hitting Trump.

00:03:36.000 All the people who are elitist about Sarah Palin are elitist about Trump. 1.00

00:03:39.000 All the people who think that Sarah Palin is a rube think that Donald Trump is an idiot. 1.00

00:03:43.000 And so she has sort of reacted to that by having a sort of warm feeling about Donald Trump. 1.00

00:03:49.000 I think there's a more cynical read here.

00:03:50.000 I don't know if it's true, but I'll throw it out there for your perusal.

00:03:53.000 And that is that Sarah Palin sees herself and is seen by a large segment of the population as someone who is a Tea Party leader.

00:04:00.000 Right?

00:04:00.000 They're always saying, Tea Party leader Sarah Palin.

00:04:02.000 She's put together a whole list of people who she's supported in primaries and they've won.

00:04:06.000 She's a Tea Party leader. 1.00

00:04:08.000 What happens if Ted Cruz gets the nomination?

00:04:11.000 What happens if Ted Cruz gets the nomination almost entirely with the support of the Tea Party because the establishment hates Ted Cruz?

00:04:18.000 Sarah Palin seems to fade into the woodwork at that point, right?

00:04:21.000 Sarah Palin seems to sort of fade away.

00:04:24.000 And so there's certain logic that suggests that perhaps Sarah Palin is supporting Donald Trump because if Donald Trump gets the nomination, then she remains the head of the Tea Party.

00:04:33.000 Now that's a pretty cynical read, but politics is a cynical game.

00:04:38.000 Okay, so let's talk about how this actually impacts the race a little bit.

00:04:42.000 As we mentioned, the Cruz campaign takes it seriously enough that they're out there talking about it, but there are five main reasons why this could actually be a real problem for Ted Cruz.

00:04:50.000 The first is that Palin's endorsement means conservative support for Trump.

00:04:54.000 So lately, Ted Cruz has been going out there and bashing Trump up and down.

00:04:59.000 And he's right to bash Trump up and down because Donald Trump, again, is not a conservative.

00:05:04.000 So, for example, here is Ted Cruz this week bashing Donald Trump.

00:05:07.000 Do we have that clip?

00:05:08.000 It's, I believe, clip five.

00:05:11.000 Number one, if you're looking for someone to take you on the corruption of Washington, you should look to someone who has a record of standing up to the corruption of Washington, not someone who has been part of it.

00:05:24.000 And whose explanation is, well, fine, I was buying politicians, but everybody does it.

00:05:28.000 That's not, that is not how you break the Washington cartel.

00:05:33.000 You know what?

00:05:34.000 I could have said in Washington, well, I'll go along to get along with Republican leadership because everybody does it.

00:05:40.000 That's how we got this problem.

00:05:42.000 Look, Donald Trump's critique of me this morning.

00:05:46.000 Is that I'm not going to be willing to make deals with the Democrats and go along to get along, and that's what we need.

00:05:51.000 If you agree with that, if you want yet another Republican to cozy up to Chuck Schumer, by the way, he's written checks to Chuck Schumer, I never have, then you ought to be backing him.

00:06:02.000 But if you think we need Republicans who are willing to stand up to Washington, then this decision becomes

00:06:13.000 Far, far easier.

00:06:28.000 I think Trump is making a strategic error in the way he criticizes Cruz.

00:06:34.000 But folks, it's unrealistic to expect that they're not going to go after each other.

00:06:38.000 They're number one and two.

00:06:40.000 Iowa and New Hampshire are at stake.

00:06:42.000 This is politics.

00:06:43.000 There's only one winner.

00:06:45.000 The two of them can't win this together in some sort of a bromance and come out as a united couple after either one of these primaries or after the whole process.

00:06:54.000 It's not how it works.

00:06:55.000 They're both going to try to take each other out and they're both going to have their own strategeries for doing so.

00:07:01.000 And Trump, you know, obviously is trying to fight back on all of this, but he's having trouble.

00:07:06.000 So what does Sarah Palin do? 1.00

00:07:07.000 She comes in, out of the wings, and she gives Trump that patina of conservative support.

00:07:12.000 Cruz is saying that Trump is not a conservative candidate, but Palin is considered a hardline conservative with a lot of conservative support.

00:07:19.000 So she comes in, she says, I'm conservative, you should support Donald.

00:07:21.000 That's reason number one.

00:07:23.000 Reason number two, this is a problem for Cruz, is because Palin endorsed Cruz in 2012.

00:07:28.000 So Palin came in, she helped Cruz, now she's turning on Cruz and supporting Trump, presumably.

00:07:33.000 Well, that makes it very awkward for Cruz not to sort of pay lip service, at least, to Palin.

00:07:39.000 And in fact, just moments ago, he did exactly that.

00:07:41.000 Just moments ago, he came out and he suggested that whatever Sarah Palin does today, I'm always going to be a big fan

00:07:48.000 Of Sarah Palin.

00:07:49.000 So he's now in the position of having to defend a gal who is giving her support to his opponent.

00:07:54.000 The third reason is that, as we discussed yesterday, one of the big attacks by Ted Cruz on Donald Trump has been the New York Values attack.

00:08:01.000 Right?

00:08:02.000 Donald Trump is an elitist.

00:08:03.000 He's from New York.

00:08:03.000 He's outside of the mainstream flyover Republican territory.

00:08:07.000 He doesn't get you.

00:08:08.000 Well, Sarah Palin is sort of the heart of that, right?

00:08:11.000 She's the mama grizzly. 1.00

00:08:12.000 She's the person who supposedly channeled 0.96

00:08:14.000 All of the anger and outrage of flyover country in 08 and 12 and now she's backing Trump.

00:08:20.000 So all of a sudden Trump has the beltway inside behind him and he has the beltway outside behind him.

00:08:25.000 So it hurts Cruz that way.

00:08:27.000 Also along the same lines

00:08:29.000 The fact is, and we'll get to this in a moment, the establishment likes Donald Trump better than they like Ted Cruz.

00:08:34.000 They really, really hate Ted Cruz.

00:08:36.000 So the fact that they like Trump and the fact that Palin represents the Tea Party means that all of a sudden Trump is a unity candidate.

00:08:42.000 He has support from the grassroots and he has support from the establishment.

00:08:45.000 It's kind of an amazing thing.

00:08:47.000 And finally, Palin actually has some people on the ground in Iowa.

00:08:51.000 So Sarah Palin, excuse me, Donald Trump,

00:08:56.000 His ground game in Iowa is very weak and has been weak for a long time.

00:08:59.000 He's been hoping to get over the hump with an enthusiasm push.

00:09:03.000 Sarah Palin helps that a lot.

00:09:04.000 So these are bad things, certainly, for Ted Cruz in all of this.

00:09:09.000 Now, as I mentioned, Donald Trump is not a conservative.

00:09:12.000 Donald Trump really is not a conservative.

00:09:14.000 Donald Trump is trying to play it like he's a slap in the face to the establishment.

00:09:17.000 So yesterday, Donald Trump said just that.

00:09:19.000 He said, he's the worst thing that ever happened to the Republican establishment.

00:09:22.000 Here's Donald Trump on that.

00:09:24.000 So Ford will hire one of the lobbyists, you know.

00:09:26.000 Look, I know this game better than anybody.

00:09:28.000 I've been playing this game for a long time.

00:09:30.000 Folks, on the other side.

00:09:31.000 I changed sides.

00:09:33.000 You know, I was total establishment.

00:09:35.000 Now I'm like the worst thing that ever happened to the establishment.

00:09:38.000 Because I understand the game!

00:09:42.000 He says he's the worst thing that ever happened to the establishment.

00:09:44.000 Well, not really.

00:09:46.000 Ted Cruz is the worst thing that ever happened to the establishment because the establishment actually disagrees with Ted Cruz.

00:09:51.000 The establishment doesn't mind Trump all that much, even the left media.

00:09:54.000 They pretend that they hate Trump, but they kind of like Trump.

00:09:55.000 Here's Trevor Noah on Comedy Central interviewing Trump.

00:10:00.000 Or at least praising Trump to the skies.

00:10:02.000 Trevor Noah is the least funny man probably on planet Earth.

00:10:05.000 It might go-it might go all Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS, and then Trevor Noah, but it really is, uh, it's a battle.

00:10:11.000 It's a real battle as to who's the most unfunny person on planet Earth.

00:10:14.000 So here's Trevor Noah talking about Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.

00:10:18.000 And listen to how much he hates Ted Cruz.

00:10:19.000 It's sort of amazing.

00:10:21.000 That's right.

00:10:21.000 Trump and Cruz, they were at each other's throats all night, starting when Cruz attacked what he called New York values.

00:10:28.000 Everyone understands that the values in New York City are socially liberal or pro-abortion or pro-gay marriage, focused around money and the media.

00:10:38.000 Not a lot of conservatives come out of Manhattan.

00:10:42.000 I'm just saying.

00:10:44.000 I'm just saying.

00:10:47.000 Oh, Ted Cruz.

00:10:48.000 The truth is, he's just upset because New York chewed up and spit out his Broadway dreams.

00:10:54.000 Not all of us can be Elphaba, Ted.

00:10:59.000 Yep.

00:11:00.000 Some of us have to be flying monkeys.

00:11:03.000 So, to get back at Cruz, Trump made it personal.

00:11:07.000 When the World Trade Center came down, I saw something that no place on Earth could have handled more beautifully, more humanely than New York.

00:11:17.000 Here are two 100...

00:11:25.000 I have to say, I've never been more impressed with Donald Trump. 0.97

00:11:29.000 Because not only is he making Ted Cruz look like a dick, but because Trump brought up 9-11, Ted Cruz has to stand there and applaud Trump while he does it. 0.99

00:11:40.000 That's like getting a guy to cheer for you as you make love to his wife. 1.00

00:11:45.000 Excellent thrusting motion, Mr. Trump.

00:11:48.000 Can I get you a Gatorade?

00:11:49.000 You're putting in quite the workout.

00:11:52.000 The amount of scorn that the media and the establishment have for Ted Cruz is significantly more than for Trump.

00:11:57.000 Because the reality is, if Ted Cruz had done the same thing to Donald Trump, is there any doubt the media would have jumped on him for invoking 9-11 cynically?

00:12:04.000 Is there any doubt that's the case?

00:12:06.000 So here's the dirty little secret.

00:12:07.000 The establishment hates Cruz more than they hate Trump.

00:12:10.000 I've been asking for months.

00:12:11.000 If they hate Trump so much, why don't they just get behind Cruz, right?

00:12:15.000 Look at the polling today.

00:12:16.000 There's a poll out of New Hampshire.

00:12:18.000 Right now, the Marco Rubio campaign, and Rubio is supposedly the great white hope for all of these establishment folks.

00:12:24.000 The Rubio campaign has now basically said their plan is Rubio finishes third in Iowa, second in New Hampshire, first in South Carolina.

00:12:31.000 Okay.

00:12:32.000 Right now, the polls in New Hampshire show Rubio running third, but he's tied at third with Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, and Jeb Bush.

00:12:39.000 They're all within a percentage point of each other.

00:12:42.000 And, who's way out in front?

00:12:43.000 Donald Trump.

00:12:43.000 And who's second?

00:12:46.000 His father was a mailman, John Kasich.

00:12:48.000 A New Hampshire poll today, Donald Trump 27, John Kasich 20.

00:12:53.000 Oh, dear God, no.

00:12:55.000 But, but, the point is that Marco Rubio has sort of fallen by the wayside, which means you would think the establishment would say, okay, the best shot we have here is for Ted Cruz to win Iowa, and then go on and compete in New Hampshire, and then we throw our support behind Ted Cruz.

00:13:08.000 The problem is, they don't actually want Ted Cruz to win.

00:13:10.000 National Review reported yesterday, quote,

00:13:13.000 The developing feeling among House Republicans, Donald Trump is preferable to Ted Cruz, quote, If you look at Trump's actual policies, they're pretty thin.

00:13:21.000 There's not a lot of meat there, said one Republican member in Ryan's inner circle, who requested anonymity to speak frankly.

00:13:27.000 If Trump were to get the nomination, he would be, quote, And we will have that for him, says the member.

00:13:33.000 In other words, Trump has no real ideas, we'll just give him all his ideas.

00:13:38.000 Cruz has real ideas and we don't like those ideas.

00:13:40.000 So we like Trump more than we like Cruz.

00:13:42.000 And this is not surprising.

00:13:44.000 The fact is that the Republican establishment for a long time has wanted Northeastern Republicans who are soft on social issues and who don't mind crony capitalism.

00:13:53.000 Who does that sound like to you?

00:13:55.000 Does that sound more like Texas Senator Ted Cruz or like New York business mogul Donald Trump?

00:14:00.000 And by the way, we keep hearing from the Republican establishment, we need to win back blue-collar voters, reach out to minorities.

00:14:06.000 Well, they don't like that Trump didn't reach out to Hispanics, but the fact is Trump wins a large segment of the black population and he wins a lot of Democrats.

00:14:14.000 According to Reuters, about 1 in 10 Americans who plan to cast a vote this election will do so for the first time in years, if ever, and Trump has a decided edge with all those people.

00:14:23.000 According to a Mercury Analytics poll, it shows 20% of Democrats would switch parties to vote for Trump.

00:14:29.000 So the establishment actually backs Trump over Cruz, and they do so not just because they think that Trump is malleable,

00:14:36.000 Well, because the fact is that Donald Trump is not conservative.

00:14:40.000 So this is an important portion of today's show.

00:14:42.000 You can clip this out, folks, and show it to all your friends.

00:14:44.000 When they ask you, is Donald Trump conservative, we're going to go through his positions now, and we're going to discuss whether he is, in fact, conservative.

00:14:51.000 And forgive me, I'm dying of the black lung, but aside from that, we are going to discuss.

00:14:55.000 Okay, so here, let's go through some of Donald Trump's positions.

00:14:58.000 First, on immigration, Trump is conservative, okay?

00:15:02.000 He's taken a very right-wing position on immigration.

00:15:06.000 He has flipped on those positions, however.

00:15:08.000 In 2012, he ripped on Mitt Romney for being too conservative on immigration.

00:15:14.000 When it came to Syrian Muslim refugees, originally he said we'd have to let all of them in before he said we have to keep all of them out. 1.00

00:15:20.000 He's all over the place.

00:15:21.000 So right now he's conservative, but he's flipped.

00:15:24.000 On foreign policy, he's all over the place.

00:15:26.000 He says we have to stand up to Russia, but we should let Russia take leadership in Syria, and he's best friends with Vladimir Putin.

00:15:32.000 On China, he says some of his best friends are in China, but we should put a 45% tariff on Chinese goods. 0.99

00:15:37.000 On ISIS, he says that we should bomb the crap out of them, but he also says that we should let Putin do it. 0.92

00:15:43.000 So he's all over the place. 0.99

00:15:45.000 Those are his more conservative issues.

00:15:47.000 Then there are the issues where he truly is not conservative.

00:15:50.000 So on abortion, Trump says that he had a change of heart several years ago on the issue of abortion.

00:15:55.000 In 1999, by the way, he endorsed partial birth abortion, which is to say, one week before the baby's born, you pull it into the birth canal and jack a hole in its skull, and then cut up the baby in the womb.

00:16:05.000 Okay, that's what partial birth abortion is. 1.00

00:16:08.000 In 1999, Trump endorsed that.

00:16:09.000 He had to flip somewhere along the line, but

00:16:12.000 Then he said in January 2015 he's pro-life with caveats of rape, incest, and where the mother's life is in danger.

00:16:19.000 And then he said there may be more caveats, but he didn't want to discuss them.

00:16:22.000 In August, he said that maybe he would fund Planned Parenthood before he turned around and said he wouldn't.

00:16:28.000 He said in August also, in the first Republican debate, he said he flipped on abortion because a good friend of his was gonna have an abortion and she decided not to and then the kid ended up being just great.

00:16:38.000 So he decided abortion was bad.

00:16:40.000 Jamie Weinstein of the Daily Caller asked Trump if the kid had ended up being a loser, would you have flipped? 0.93

00:16:45.000 And he said no. 0.96

00:16:46.000 Okay, so in other words, if the kid had been aborted and then, if the kid had not been aborted and had ended up just being kind of like a dud,

00:16:54.000 Trump presumably would still be for abortion.

00:16:55.000 Does that sound someone deeply pro-life to you?

00:16:58.000 In October, Trump said he would appoint his sister, who's a federal appeals court judge, to the Supreme Court.

00:17:04.000 She has voted in favor of the notion that partial birth abortion is protected by the Constitution.

00:17:11.000 On same-sex marriage, Trump says that he's anti same-sex marriage, but also that same-sex marriage is the law of the land and he doesn't want any sort of fight against same-sex marriage.

00:17:19.000 He certainly doesn't want a constitutional amendment.

00:17:22.000 On religious freedom, he has said nothing whatsoever about religious freedom restoration acts in places like Indiana.

00:17:29.000 On entitlements, Donald Trump has said he won't do anything about Medicare or Medicaid or Social Security.

00:17:35.000 He says all of those will be left alone to go insolvent, presumably.

00:17:40.000 He said that he won't have to cut Social Security because, quote, I know where to get the money from to pay for it.

00:17:45.000 Nobody else does.

00:17:46.000 So Donald Trump apparently has a secret stash somewhere, like when you're playing Monopoly with when you're a kid and you hide a bunch of cash under the board to surprise everybody with.

00:17:53.000 So Donald Trump has a secret Social Security stash.

00:17:56.000 Donald Trump is in favor of campaign finance reform.

00:17:59.000 He's in favor of government involvement in the economy.

00:18:01.000 He backed TARP.

00:18:02.000 He backed Obama's stimulus package.

00:18:05.000 In 2009, Trump said, quote, I think Obama is doing very well.

00:18:09.000 You do need stimulus, and you do have to keep the banks alive.

00:18:12.000 Trump supports eminent domain for purposes of seizing private land and then giving it to another private landowner.

00:18:18.000 Trump opposes Common Core on education, but says he would maintain the Department of Education.

00:18:23.000 Trump says on Obamacare he would dump it.

00:18:25.000 He hates Obamacare, but he has praised the nationalized health care systems of Scotland and Canada.

00:18:32.000 His tax plan is actually conservative.

00:18:34.000 His trade plan is not.

00:18:36.000 His trade plan involves heavy international tariffs.

00:18:39.000 And then he's pretty good on guns.

00:18:40.000 So, in short, good on immigration, good on taxes, good on guns, mixed at best on everything else.

00:18:47.000 He's not nearly as conservative as Cruz.

00:18:49.000 And that's why so many people in the establishment would prefer Donald Trump to Ted Cruz.

00:18:55.000 So, there's that.

00:18:58.000 This whole thing is just, it is amazing, it is amazing that there's so many people who are being bamboozled into the idea that Trump is a conservative.

00:19:05.000 There's one, honestly, there's something to be said for the fact that Donald Trump's enemies are all obnoxious elitists.

00:19:12.000 That's mostly true.

00:19:14.000 But, to mix that up with star worship is a problem.

00:19:17.000 And honestly, I had this problem with the worship for Sarah Palin from the beginning.

00:19:21.000 I thought Sarah Palin, when she first announced, I thought that she was a godsend.

00:19:24.000 And then I thought she made some mistakes.

00:19:26.000 I didn't think it was a gotcha question when Katie Couric asked for what newspapers she read.

00:19:31.000 I thought you should have an answer to what newspapers do you read.

00:19:34.000 It's not a difficult question.

00:19:36.000 Just like I don't think it's a gotcha question to ask Donald Trump, what's your favorite Bible verse?

00:19:40.000 I don't think that that was a gotcha question, but there were people who acted as though because there were lots of unwarranted attacks on Palin, every attack on Palin was unwarranted.

00:19:48.000 And now it's the same thing with Trump.

00:19:50.000 Because there are lots of unwarranted attacks on Trump, that means every attack on Trump is unwarranted.

00:19:55.000 I don't buy that.

00:19:56.000 I don't think that's correct. 0.95

00:19:57.000 I think it's ridiculous, actually. 0.59

00:19:59.000 And I think that we need to move beyond a conservatism that worships at the altar of particular figures. 0.76

00:20:05.000 That's not what we do as conservatives.

00:20:06.000 We don't worship figures.

00:20:08.000 And it happens on the establishment side, too.

00:20:11.000 I'm sick of the worship of Ronald Reagan, for example.

00:20:13.000 Ronald Reagan did stuff that's wrong.

00:20:16.000 Not everything Ronald Reagan ever said was genius.

00:20:19.000 Ronald Reagan made mistakes.

00:20:20.000 That's okay, we're human beings.

00:20:22.000 But to change the standard of conservatism to fit Donald Trump because Sarah Palin says so, for example, is to me a mistake.

00:20:29.000 And Sarah Palin can endorse whom she wants.

00:20:31.000 But I will say that if conservatives buy into the idea that because Sarah Palin is endorsing Donald Trump, therefore Donald Trump is a conservative, 0.59

00:20:40.000 That seems ridiculous to me. 0.74

00:20:42.000 That seems like a purely insane notion.

00:20:47.000 By the way, just worth mentioning,

00:20:50.000 Donald Trump says he's in favor of campaign finance reform.

00:20:52.000 He wants all the money out of politics, which is amazing considering who he is.

00:20:57.000 The United Kingdom debated yesterday whether or not to ban Donald Trump from the United Kingdom for his comments about Muslims.

00:21:03.000 That is a country where they have significant regulations of what you can or cannot do with regard to speech surrounding elections.

00:21:11.000 And the reason for that is because they don't want people quote-unquote buying elections, so it happens they move ever to the left.

00:21:18.000 So there's just worth noting.

00:21:20.000 Meanwhile, the Obama administration continues to be incompetent beyond all measure.

00:21:25.000 John Kerry yesterday was asked about Barack Obama's foreign policy, and here's what he said, and the disconnect between the Obama administration and reality is just massive.

00:21:34.000 Just massive.

00:21:35.000 Well, they are safer today.

00:21:37.000 The world is safer today.

00:21:39.000 Before we had this agreement, Iran had a completely invisible, unaccountable, unverified nuclear program.

00:21:51.000 Today that is not true.

00:21:52.000 That is entirely reversed.

00:22:08.000 Not only do we now have verification that is unprecedented, but they have rolled back their program, sent their nuclear material out of the country, destroyed their plutonium reactor, ceased any enrichment activities at the hidden Fordow facility, and allowed 130 additional inspectors from the IAEA to come into the country to verify this going forward.

00:22:33.000 So we have gone from a two-month breakout period, Joe,

00:22:37.000 It's all just great stuff for you, John Kerry.

00:22:39.000 You can cut them off.

00:22:46.000 Because over time his face grows closer to the earth, or the earth grows closer to his face.

00:22:52.000 Apparently it's all equal and opposite.

00:22:53.000 But in any case, John Kerry says that the world is safer today than it ever was.

00:22:56.000 He's then asked about the pictures of the sailors released by the Iranians.

00:23:00.000 Remember they basically kidnapped some of our sailors overnight?

00:23:03.000 Here's John Kerry explaining his feelings at seeing the pictures of the sailors being humiliated.

00:23:09.000 Suffice it to say, I don't want to get into precise language.

00:23:12.000 I think that's inappropriate.

00:23:13.000 But let me make it clear.

00:23:14.000 I was extremely upset, frustrated.

00:23:19.000 It was inappropriate.

00:23:20.000 And I made it very, very clear to the Iranians that we needed those people back. 1.00

00:23:26.000 And we needed them right away.

00:23:28.000 Oh well, he was upset and frustrated.

00:23:30.000 But don't worry, the world is safer.

00:23:32.000 And because he was very upset and frustrated, that means a lot to us, I think.

00:23:34.000 I think that that means we should give them nuclear weapons.

00:23:37.000 Because John Kerry was upset and frustrated.

00:23:39.000 Tom Cotton, who I think is going to be at some point a good presidential candidate, he's the senator from Arkansas, former military member, served in Iraq.

00:23:46.000 Here is Tom Cotton's response to John Kerry saying the world is going to be a safer place.

00:23:51.000 And second,

00:23:53.000 Remember, this was a deal, if it was in fact about a weapons agreement before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, that we made with the pro-American government of Iran, that was then overthrown by a violent revolution led by the Ayatollahs.

00:24:09.000 And we're rewarding them now by giving them back that previous regime's money with interest.

00:24:14.000 Secretary Kerry talked about interest payments being required under the law.

00:24:17.000 I'm not sure which law he's referring to.

00:24:20.000 But it sounds to me like he's more interested in being the lawyer for the government of Iran than he is for standing up, for instance, as you say, Wolf, for the rights of those 52 Americans who still have lots of claims against Iran for the terrorism and the captivity in which they held them.

00:24:34.000 And this, of course, is certainly true.

00:24:36.000 By the way, worth noting, breaking news.

00:24:39.000 It is amazing that the governor of Iowa has now come out and said that he does not like Ted Cruz and he wants Ted Cruz to be defeated.

00:24:46.000 Because the reality is that, again, the Republican establishment, to go back to that point for just a second, the Republican establishment hates Cruz far more than they hate Trump.

00:24:53.000 They're now clearing a path for Trump in Iowa.

00:24:56.000 So they've conceded.

00:24:57.000 They're ready to hand this thing over to Trump, which is truly amazing.

00:25:00.000 Okay, some things that I like and some things that I hate.

00:25:03.000 Instead of things that I like, I'm going to tell you what I'm reading now.

00:25:05.000 I finally finished David Copperfield.

00:25:06.000 It took me forever, as I mentioned yesterday.

00:25:09.000 It was a really, really long book.

00:25:11.000 I'm reading two books now.

00:25:12.000 One is called The Insanity Offense.

00:25:14.000 I'm fascinated with the mental health conditions of the country, and this book called The Insanity Offense is all about how the

00:25:22.000 The country, the democratic process, our politicians have failed, the mentally ill in the country, and that's why you see tons of homeless people on the streets, and that's why you see increasing numbers of mass shootings by people who have mental illness, and he talks about how things got this way, the author does. 0.82

00:25:37.000 The book is called The Insanity Offense, and on the fiction side, I just started a book called The Whites, which was a detective crime novel that was recommended to me, and so I will check it out and let you know if it's any good.

00:25:46.000 Okay.

00:25:47.000 Now, more importantly, here are some things that I hate.

00:25:49.000 So, we've talked about Amy Schumer on the program before. 0.82

00:25:52.000 Amy Schumer is, of course, the lady who's famous for being borderline funny and borderline fat. 1.00

00:25:59.000 She's overweight, but not unbelievably so, and she's funny, but not unbelievably so. 0.88

00:26:04.000 And she did a picture, as you recall, a while back in which she posed naked for Annie Leibovitz.

00:26:10.000 And she said she was stunning, and if by stunning you mean you were hit in the face with a brick, then yes, she was stunning.

00:26:16.000 If by stunning you mean she was beautiful, then not so much. 1.00

00:26:18.000 But, Amy Schumer has made a career, like a real career, out of just saying dirty words, and saying dirty things, and talking about her vagina. 1.00

00:26:26.000 I mean, honestly, this is what she's made a career off of doing. 0.99

00:26:29.000 She's like Sarah Silverman, except blonde and fatter.

00:26:31.000 Sarah Silverman is a comedian who's done the same thing.

00:26:34.000 She's kind of quasi-cute, and so is Amy Schumer.

00:26:36.000 They're both quasi-cute.

00:26:37.000 But they say lots of stuff about their vajujus, and therefore, that means that they are funny.

00:26:42.000 You're funny and you're sophisticated if you are not incredibly pretty.

00:26:47.000 But the standard for female funny now is basically going blue. 1.00

00:26:51.000 Right?

00:26:52.000 Being blue is the standard for female funny. 1.00

00:26:54.000 I mean, name a female comedian who's real famous right now who's not deeply blue, and it's very difficult to figure one out, right?

00:27:00.000 I mean, from Sarah Silverman to Amy Schumer.

00:27:03.000 To Lena Dunham, to Chelsea Handler, they all work blue. 0.99

00:27:09.000 And, you know, I have nothing against a good dirty joke, but the problem is most of their jokes aren't even good dirty jokes.

00:27:14.000 Most of their jokes are just dirty jokes. 0.99

00:27:17.000 And they're really not that funny, and I actually find it kind of off-putting when females can do nothing but talk about their vaginas, just as I actually find it off-putting when men can do nothing but talk about their penises. 1.00

00:27:26.000 I just find it ridiculous. 0.99

00:27:28.000 Amy Schumer has done this.

00:27:29.000 Well, Amy Schumer got into a bit of a tiff because the Critics' Choice Award happened a couple of nights ago, and there's this 17-year-old reviewer who calls himself Lights Camera Jackson, and he tweeted this out.

00:27:40.000 Let's see if we can grab his tweet.

00:27:42.000 So, for those who can't see, there's a picture of this geeky-looking 17-year-old kid and Amy Schumer standing next to him looking like Alvin from Alvin and the Chipmunks, except with cleavage.

00:27:51.000 And it says, he tweeted out, quote,

00:27:54.000 Spent the night with Amy Schumer.

00:27:56.000 Certainly not the first guy to write that.

00:27:58.000 Hashtag Critic's Choice Award. 0.98

00:28:00.000 Right, so he's making a joke about how she's slutty. 0.98

00:28:02.000 I mean, that's the joke. 0.96

00:28:03.000 And she writes back, I get it. 1.00

00:28:04.000 Cause I'm a whore? 0.99

00:28:06.000 Glad I took a photo with you. 1.00

00:28:07.000 Hi to your dad.

00:28:08.000 And she's getting all snippy with him.

00:28:10.000 Because presumably she's a nun. 0.99

00:28:12.000 I mean, I would have thought she's a whore because she always talks about being a whore, but it turns out that she actually spends her off hours in a nunnery, which I didn't know. 1.00

00:28:22.000 I also didn't know, for example, that nuns make jokes about going down on Lily Tomlin, which is what she did this morning. 0.99

00:28:28.000 I also didn't know that nuns do photoshoots, Star Wars photoshoots, in which they take lightsabers and put them in their mouth to simulate the act of oral sex. 0.99

00:28:36.000 I also didn't know that nuns do pictures in which they go completely topless next to R2-D2 and C-3PO to demonstrate their love for Christ. 0.98

00:28:44.000 I didn't realize that's what nuns do. 1.00

00:28:46.000 Color me surprised, but I was always under the impression that in order for you to claim the class of being virginal, you actually had to be somewhat virginal. 0.99

00:28:55.000 Amy Schumer's the lady who said, quote, I can catch a dick whenever I want. 1.00

00:29:00.000 Right? 1.00

00:29:00.000 This is Amy Schumer, and here she's ripping on a 17-year-old kid for making a joke about the fact that she says she can catch a dick whenever she wants. 1.00

00:29:08.000 She, uh, she's just ridiculous. 1.00

00:29:09.000 And, and, I mean, just to put the capper on it, the name of her show is Inside Amy Schumer. 0.99

00:29:16.000 Okay?

00:29:16.000 The name of her tour is Back Door Tour.

00:29:19.000 That's the name of her tour.

00:29:20.000 She says, quote, I have used sex as a marketing tool and it has worked. 0.95

00:29:24.000 I mean, my TV show is called Inside Amy Schumer.

00:29:28.000 She made her movie Trainwreck.

00:29:29.000 It was supposed to be autobiographical. 0.99

00:29:30.000 It's a lady who has sex with lots of dudes. 1.00

00:29:32.000 And she said, for me, this is my experience, a lot of the women I am close to are the same. 0.96

00:29:38.000 She said she even she's told jokes like this in in one of her recent tours quote my whole life I found friends that are just like me young girls that were just like me like me. 0.98

00:29:46.000 We were all whores Oh, so but but here it seems like you're upset that you're being called a whore or that it's being implied But here you say that you were all whores and then she says in my group the slutty of us was this girl Katie She wouldn't own it like as soon as she had a boyfriend. 0.98

00:30:00.000 She started acting like Mother Teresa 0.99

00:30:04.000 Mirror anyone?

00:30:05.000 I mean, I know it's hard to find a mirror big enough for Amy Schumer apparently, but is there a mirror anywhere in the vicinity?

00:30:11.000 So the kind of self-righteousness of the folks on the left, and Amy Schumer, she's actually one of the few people who's blocked me on Twitter now.

00:30:17.000 She blocked me on Twitter because bravery means tweeting out photos of yourself naked, calling yourself brave, and then blocking anyone who objects.

00:30:25.000 That's true bravery.

00:30:26.000 That's what the fellows did at Normandy.

00:30:28.000 They charged the beaches and then they blocked the Nazis. 0.85

00:30:31.000 That's what they did.

00:30:32.000 They hashtag blocked them for hashtag feminist violations. 0.61

00:30:36.000 This is an emergency.

00:31:05.000 This is an emergency.

00:31:08.000 Homicides in Chicago, Illinois, have surpassed the death toll of America's special forces in Iraq.

00:31:17.000 Hey, Dolomites!

00:31:18.000 Welcome to Chi-Raq! 0.99

00:31:25.000 Land of pain, misery, and strife.

00:31:28.000 Everybody here got a man banging and slanging, fighting for the flag, risking that long zip for the cadaver bag.

00:31:33.000 All to the bang, bang.

00:31:35.000 Bang, bang. 0.99

00:31:36.000 It all started with a gorgeous Nubian sister.

00:31:39.000 What's up, spinner?

00:31:42.000 They call her Alyssa Strauss, a woman like no other.

00:31:45.000 You just try taking away their guns.

00:31:48.000 Okay, okay.

00:31:49.000 30 poppers? 0.99

00:31:50.000 As my gun go boom, I make sure a Trojan end up in her neck. 1.00

00:31:54.000 All right. 0.97

00:31:55.000 Well, what else do they love?

00:31:57.000 Repeat after me.

00:31:58.000 I will deny all rights of access or entrance.

00:32:04.000 I will deny all rights of access.

00:32:10.000 I can't take any more of this.

00:32:13.000 I can't.

00:32:13.000 I just can't.

00:32:14.000 Okay.

00:32:15.000 So I listened to Andrew Klavan's podcast, in which he played this same trailer, about a week and a half ago, and he said this looked good.

00:32:22.000 And this made me doubt anything that Andrew Klavan has ever said.

00:32:25.000 I mean, legitimately.

00:32:26.000 Because, if you're watching this, folks, this looks like one of the worst movies ever made.

00:32:30.000 I mean, this does not just look bad.

00:32:31.000 This looks egregiously bad.

00:32:32.000 I mean, this looks like—I haven't seen the movie, so maybe it's all ruse.

00:32:36.000 Maybe it turns out it's Citizen Kane.

00:32:37.000 But, I sorta—even the critics think this is a bad movie, by the way.

00:32:40.000 And Spike Lee is very upset.

00:32:42.000 He and Jada Pinkett Smith are both really upset because there aren't enough black nominees for the Oscars.

00:32:47.000 Okay, first of all,

00:32:49.000 I'm fine with the idea.

00:32:50.000 I think we should go perfectly race and sex neutral on the Oscars, and that means that no women will ever be nominated for anything again, because the fact is that presumably men can be women, and apparently Eddie Redmayne has shown in The Danish Girl that men are better at being women than women. 0.87

00:33:03.000 So, presumably, in the future, all nominees will be men or transgender women.

00:33:07.000 So that'll be very exciting.

00:33:08.000 But, what's amazing is that Spike Lee, apparently, he's very upset because there are not enough black nominees.

00:33:14.000 Does this look like this ought to be nominated?

00:33:15.000 Now, I've made the case that half of the things that are nominated shouldn't be.

00:33:19.000 But I'm still gonna make the case that this movie does not look better than Spotlight.

00:33:24.000 Okay, I'm gonna make the case that this movie does not look superior in any way, shape, or form to even Carol or The Danish Girl, both of which I think look awful.

00:33:34.000 Hey, this movie looks worse than anything that has ever been made, and Spike Lee is one of the most overrated directors working today.

00:33:39.000 I mean, he's so overrated.

00:33:40.000 I've seen virtually all of his movies, because I feel it's important to see what people who don't think like I do actually produce, and his movies are wildly overrated.

00:33:50.000 He made one decent movie, right?

00:33:52.000 He made one decent movie very early on, and the name escapes me.

00:33:55.000 It's the one about Brooklyn.

00:33:56.000 They're all about Brooklyn, but it's the one about Brooklyn.

00:33:58.000 With the pizzeria and the race riot at the end, and I can't remember the name of it.

00:34:03.000 But that's an okay movie, it's not a great movie. 0.98

00:34:06.000 All the rest of his movies are garbage. 0.59

00:34:07.000 He made one about World War II a couple of years ago that was so bad. 0.98

00:34:10.000 And it's hard for me to say a World War II movie is bad.

00:34:12.000 This is an actual bad World War II movie.

00:34:15.000 And so, you know, here he is complaining about this, and Jada Pinkett Smith is complaining because there are not enough black nominees.

00:34:21.000 And they were doing this on Martin Luther King Day, by the way.

00:34:24.000 And also on Martin Luther King Day, the Black Lives Matter movement shut down one of the bridges into San Francisco.

00:34:31.000 It wasn't the Golden Gate.

00:34:32.000 They shut down one of the other bridges into San Francisco.

00:34:34.000 I think it was the Bay Bridge in San Francisco.

00:34:38.000 On Martin Luther King Day. 0.95

00:34:40.000 To suggest that black people are of more worth than white people. 0.97

00:34:43.000 The fact is that we are now at the point in American culture where Martin Luther King lost and Malcolm X won.

00:34:50.000 So Martin Luther King promised us that we would have a unified vision of race in the country, and for a while it seemed like we were going to actually achieve that.

00:34:59.000 After Rodney King, after the Clinton administration, it seemed like we were moving in the right direction on all this stuff. 0.89

00:35:06.000 And then it all just collapsed on us.

00:35:07.000 And it collapsed on us because there's more money to be made in racial polarization than there is to be made in racial unification.

00:35:14.000 So now we're going back to racial polarization, and then pretending the Malcolm X, like, before-Islam conversion Malcolm X, and Martin Luther King were one and the same.

00:35:22.000 They weren't.

00:35:23.000 And it's sad to me that we've reached that point. 0.99

00:35:25.000 Because we should all be able to say, with full-throatedness, that Chirac looks like a piece of absolute garbage, without having to worry that we're gonna be called racist in the pursuit. 0.98

00:35:34.000 We should all be able to say that, by the way, I think that if there's a case to be made that someone black should have been nominated, it's Idris Elba for maybe best supporting actor for Beast of No Nation, which I talked about on the show and thought was fine. 0.98

00:35:45.000 But just because he wasn't nominated, I don't think that all the lefties in Hollywood are a bunch of evil racists trying to keep black people off the ballots. 0.82

00:35:52.000 But this is how far we've moved. 1.00

00:35:54.000 We've moved so far for women that women can now say, I'm a whore, but if you call me a whore, then you're a sexist. 1.00

00:36:00.000 And black people can say, I'm post-racial, but if you don't give me special privileges for being black, then you're a racist. 0.99

00:36:06.000 So we've inverted all of the definitions to arrive back where we were originally, pushing sexism and pushing racism. 0.97

00:36:12.000 It's sad and it's ridiculous, but you know, that seems like that's the way our politics and values have been moving.

00:36:18.000 For more depression and upset, come back tomorrow.

00:36:21.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:36:22.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - January 19, 2016

Ep. 57 - The Establishment Hates Cruz More Than Trump

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