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00:00:03.000Just two days until the next vaunted Republican debate, which I will have to cover because that's the sort of sacrifice I make for you.
00:00:10.000But today, we'll talk about Planned Parenthood, we'll talk about the Democratic Town Hall, and we'll talk about a brand new movie that is now being bid on at Sundance.
00:00:18.000We'll talk about what that means for America.
00:01:28.000The media and the Democratic Party, it's this incestuous duo, and it really is kind of gross.
00:01:32.000So, what I want to talk about, as far as the Democrat debate last night, is what you keep hearing from the media is, if you just watch these Democrats,
00:01:41.000This Bernie Sanders, this Hillary Clinton, if you just watch them closely, what you'll notice is that they're so upbeat.
00:01:58.000But Bernie Sanders and Hillary, they're running such optimistic, wonderful campaigns, positive campaigns.
00:02:04.000And then you watch these town halls, and what you realize is that that is not true in the slightest.
00:02:10.000What you realize is that when Democrats, when Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton in particular, have to talk about what is supposed to be appealing about them personally, there's nothing there.
00:02:20.000It's only when they're attacking Republicans that they gain any sort of credence and credibility.
00:02:24.000They have to be on the attack in order for them to be successful.
00:02:28.000And the point here is that that is not that Republicans shouldn't be on the attack on the other side.
00:02:31.000It's that Republicans need to understand this is how the game is played.
00:02:51.000Hillary Clinton last night, I mean, you want to look at some unattractive candidates.
00:02:53.000Here's Hillary Clinton last night being asked about having a private email server and hiding emails and deleting emails and using her private email server to funnel classified information.
00:03:04.000Here is Hillary Clinton answering that question.
00:03:06.000Well, I think that there, you know, look, I was delighted to get the the register's endorsement and it was a very generous one and yes, I think that's a fair criticism.
00:03:48.000It was not in any way prohibited, and so... Not apologizing sooner, I mean.
00:03:52.000Well, apologizing sooner, as soon as you can.
00:03:54.000But part of the problem, and I would just say this as, not an excuse, but just as an explanation, when you're facing something like that, you've got to get the facts, and it takes time to get the facts.
00:04:04.000And so when I said, hey, take all my emails, make them public, that had never been done before, ever, by anybody.
00:04:12.000And so we've been sorting our way through this because it is kind of a unique situation.
00:04:17.000I'm happy people are looking at the email.
00:04:19.000Some of them are, you know, frankly a little embarrassing.
00:04:25.000You can find out that sometimes I'm not the best on technology and things like that, but look, I think it's great.
00:04:30.000Let people sort them through, and as we have seen, there is a lot of, you know, a lot of interest, but it's something that took time to get done.
00:04:39.000Okay, Hillary Clinton, her programming needs an upgrade, because this is not good answer, okay?
00:04:46.000First of all, she starts off stuttering and stumbling for a solid about 20 seconds there, and then she goes into distraction mode.
00:04:51.000And Hillary Clinton doing distraction mode, when you watch her body language,
00:04:55.000Hillary Clinton's distraction mode is these very calculated and off-putting large hand motions.
00:05:00.000She suddenly looks like Bernie Sanders.
00:05:02.000All of a sudden she's talking about... And what I'm trying to tell you people is that it's really important that you look at all the facts.
00:05:44.000But this is to demonstrate that when Hillary Clinton is forced to answer about her own record and what she would do, it's real awkward for her.
00:05:59.000Is that Hillary Clinton is that there's one point during this during this town hall at which a young person stood up and started to ask senators a question.
00:06:07.000Senator Sanders and said, and it stopped himself.
00:06:16.000I mean, when somebody gets up in the middle of an unscripted town hall and says, oh yeah, this is why they asked me to ask you this question, uh, yeah, that's weird.
00:06:47.000It feels like there's a lot of young people like myself who are very passionate supporters of Bernie Sanders, and I just don't see the same enthusiasm from younger people for you.
00:06:58.000In fact, I've heard from quite a few people my age that they think you're dishonest, but I'd like to hear from you on why you feel the enthusiasm isn't there.
00:07:09.000Well, I think it really depends upon who you're seeing and talking to.
00:07:13.000You know, today in Oskaloosa, I spent time with about ten high school students who are enthusiastically working for me.
00:07:22.000I see young people across the state who are doing the same.
00:07:26.000But I'm totally happy to see young people involved in any way.
00:07:57.000She's doing the hand motions, which is... I mean, she must be terrible at poker.
00:08:01.000By the way, when this young guy asks her this question, Hillary looks like if she had the power of the Force Choke, she would be using it right then.
00:08:09.000I mean, the evil basilisk-type glare that she is laying on this kid is pretty impressive.
00:08:16.000So Bernie Sanders is gaining a lot of enthusiasm on the other side of the aisle.
00:08:21.000Sorry, let's play one more clip of Hillary Clinton.
00:08:22.000This is not from the event last night, but Hillary Clinton was asked pretty recently about the fact that she's been giving $200,000 speeches for Goldman Sachs.
00:08:29.000Now this is a problem for her because she's trying to campaign as a Wall Street outsider.
00:08:34.000Now, if you're a Wall Street outsider, you don't get paid $200,000 in the Goldman Sachs arena.
00:08:41.000You don't go to Wall Street and get paid $200,000 a pop.
00:08:44.000And so Hillary Clinton was asked about this, not at this particular event.
00:08:47.000She was asked about it by another reporter, and I believe it's Clip 13.
00:08:53.000And here is Hillary Clinton answering the question in the most awkward possible way.
00:09:42.000So Bernie, at one point last night, he was asked about his plans to raise taxes because it will cost $19 trillion, $19 trillion, the entire amount of the outstanding debt of the United States.
00:09:55.000He would have to increase taxes in order to pay for all of his programs, and Bernie Sanders
00:10:03.000Here's Bernie Sanders, who, I guess, he's upset because they didn't bring his Jell-O in time, and he's missed the early, the early bird special, and so he's, he just looks a little bit, a little bit grumpy.
00:10:14.000But Bernie Sanders always looks kind of grumpy.
00:10:16.000By the way, the new Ben & Jerry's, the new Ben & Jerry's ice cream, I think we mentioned yesterday, is called Bernie's Yearning.
00:10:21.000That's the name of the new Ben & Jerry's ice cream, because they love Bernie Sanders, they're from Vermont.
00:10:26.000And, which, by the way, super awkward name.
00:10:30.000Because then it's like, oh my god, yeah.
00:10:32.000I gotta tell you, I had Bernie's yearning in my mouth and it was just terrible.
00:10:35.000In any case, here's Bernie's yearning explaining his new tax plan.
00:10:39.000But Chris, that is an unfair criticism for the following reason.
00:10:46.000If you are paying now $10,000 a year to a private health insurance company, and I say to you hypothetically, you're gonna pay $5,000 more in taxes, or actually less than that,
00:10:59.000But you're not going to pay any more private health insurance?
00:11:02.000Are you going to be complaining about the fact that I've saved you $5,000 in your total bills?
00:11:09.000So it's demagogic to say, oh, you're paying more in taxes.
00:11:12.000Let's also talk about, we are going to eliminate private health insurance premiums and payments, not only for individuals, but for businesses as well.
00:11:24.000We are the only country on earth that allows private insurance companies to rip us off.
00:11:30.000We spend three times more than the British, 50% more than the French.
00:11:36.000We can do better than we're doing right now.
00:11:41.000But just to be clear, you are going to raise taxes to do this?
00:12:09.000This sort of stirring rhetoric is what won Walter Mondale one state in 1984.
00:12:14.000You remember all the way back to 1984, he did his convention speech in San Francisco, and he said, yeah, we have to be honest, we're going to raise taxes.
00:12:26.000In 2012, he ran on, I haven't raised your taxes.
00:12:29.000And then, of course, he raised our taxes.
00:12:31.000Bernie Sanders is running on, yeah, I'm definitely going to raise your taxes.
00:12:34.000He also has a magical plan where he can convert $5,000 of taxpayer money funneled through the government into giving you more for its worth than $10,000 you pay into private health insurance.
00:13:12.000I don't know what magical fantasy land Bernie Sanders lives in.
00:13:15.000It must be a wonderful place where either I can give $10,000 to basically a company to help me pay for my doctors, or I can give $5,000 to Bernie Sanders and I get more from Bernie Sanders.
00:13:25.000It's insanity, but this is not a good pitch, and Bernie Sanders is not a good candidate.
00:13:29.000I mean, everybody is acting like he's captivating the hearts and minds of the American public.
00:13:37.000There are a few Democrats who know who Bernie Sanders is, but when you get a load of this old crazy guy shouting at the moon, it's not really that attractive.
00:13:45.000I mean, can you imagine this guy as President of the United States?
00:13:48.000The state of our union is $7 for a matinee performance of the latest showing of On Golden Pond.
00:14:30.000Let us be lovers while I weave our fortunes together.
00:14:37.000I've got some real estate here in my bag.
00:14:42.000Counting the cars on the New Jersey Turnpike, they've all come to look for a man.
00:14:56.000All this is is just stock footage of all these people, almost, pretty much everybody's white, a bunch of white people who are Bernie Sanders supporters, and then Bernie being really old and walking into crowds and stuff, and to the strains of Simon and Garfunkel, which shows you, for people who say they're going to bring us to the future, they sure seem to focus a lot on the 1960s.
00:15:13.000Okay, like, Simon and Garfunkel went out 20 years before I was born.
00:15:19.000We used to, in my high school, we used to call them Shimon and Garfunkel because they're both Jewish.
00:15:22.000But Simon and Garfunkel, not exactly fashionable among the younger set, but Bernie Sanders, that's his pitch.
00:15:43.000So, Hillary last night was asked, you know, in one of the first debates, in the first Democratic debate, you said that your real enemies were the Republicans.
00:15:51.000Well, what do you have to say about that?
00:15:56.000Brett Rosengren, he's from Logan, Iowa, he's going to school, works as a supervisor for a janitorial company, says he's undecided, has a question.
00:16:28.000There's your evidence that this is all a plant.
00:16:30.000But anyway, here's Hillary answering the question about the GOP's enemies.
00:16:35.000You say you want to work with them, but you were quoted not too long ago when you were listing people that you saw as adversaries, NRA, health insurance companies, probably the Republicans.
00:16:46.000They did not like that when you said that, and it makes them feel that, well, Secretary Clinton doesn't like us, why would she work with us?
00:16:54.000Well, Chris, it was kind of tongue-in-cheek, and I consider them worthy adversaries, because they are.
00:18:14.000They are on the front lines of defending themselves, their families, their children, and all the rest of us.
00:18:19.000And the same is true with Muslims around the world.
00:18:22.000We need a coalition that includes Muslim nations to defeat ISIS.
00:18:28.000And it's pretty hard to figure out how you're going to make a coalition with the very nations you need if you spend your time insulting their religion.
00:18:35.000So we need to stand up and point out how wrong this is.
00:18:42.000Okay, so Hillary Clinton basically ripping on Donald Trump there, right?
00:18:45.000So her entire campaign really is opposition.
00:18:48.000So the point of this juxtaposition that I'm showing you is that when it comes to the Democrats, the only thing that they really have here, the only thing that they truly have, is ripping on Republicans.
00:18:58.000Here's Martin O'Malley trying to out Hillary and out Sanders, Hillary and Sanders.
00:19:02.000Martin O'Malley is asked a question and he immediately swivels it on Donald Trump and how evil the Republicans are.
00:19:09.000So to those that are still, you know, undecided like me or maybe just less informed about politics, on top of what you've already talked about, what's the last thing that you would try to tell them to convince them that you are, in fact, the best candidate for the Democratic Party?
00:19:27.000I would say that time and time again in the history of the state of Iowa, Iowa has found a way to sort through the noise and to sort through the national polls and to lift up a new leader for our country at times when that was critical and essential.
00:19:43.000That's what you did eight years ago when you lifted up Barack Obama to lead our country forward.
00:19:49.000And we need to build upon his good work by continuing to move forward.
00:19:54.000And I am the only one of the three of us who has a track record, not of being a divider, but of bringing people together to get meaningful things done.
00:20:06.000Raising the living wage, making college more affordable, creating jobs, healing wounds and divisions.
00:20:13.000That's what our country needs right now.
00:20:46.000So, when you are asked next about why it is that Democrats are running such an upbeat campaign, you can rightly answer, they aren't.
00:20:53.000Hillary Clinton at one point said about, I think it was Jeb Bush actually, said about Donald Trump, you can't insult your way to the presidency.
00:21:31.000That race is still wide open but what's really amazing about all of this is that Donald Trump is still winning a heavy segment of the conservative vote even though there are people like me saying Donald Trump is not a conservative and I think a lot of that is attitudinal.
00:21:48.000Seeming as though he's going to take the fight to the other side, but that's not what Donald Trump is actually going to do.
00:21:53.000Donald Trump is not going to take the fight to the other side, which is why the establishment is more comfortable with Trump than they are with Ted Cruz, whose entire raison d'etre is to do this.
00:22:02.000For example, clip 9, here's Donald Trump talking about George W. Bush and Barack Obama in foreign policy.
00:22:08.000President George W. Bush, he was in office in 2007.
00:23:29.000In any case, the part here that's relevant is that Trump says that Bush and Obama are about equal in terms of hurting America's foreign policy.
00:24:20.000But going into a second thing about how stupid are the people of Iowa, I said, then I said, how stupid are the people of the United States?
00:24:27.000And I was talking about because everybody in this country was believing, I'm not going to mention his name, but it was a certain candidate.
00:25:58.000I mean, the best thing that the Republican Party could ever have would be a right-wing Obama, considering the amount of damage that Obama has done because he's not willing to work with other people.
00:26:05.000We don't need somebody who's going to go into the Senate and make deals with people.
00:26:14.000Donald Trump is continuing to campaign as both the anti-establishment candidate and the establishment candidate, which is really weird.
00:26:21.000Okay, I want to turn from the presidential race for a minute to talk about what's happening with the Planned Parenthood case.
00:26:27.000So apparently, over in, I think it's Harris County, Texas, there's now a grand jury that has indicted.
00:26:33.000They were asked to take a look into the Planned Parenthood case.
00:26:36.000For those who don't remember, there's a group called the Center for Medical Progress, and the Center for Medical Progress
00:26:41.000Cut a bunch of undercover videos where they pretended to be a basically a broker for baby parts to sell to research facilities and they met with a bunch of Planned Parenthood executives and they got the Planned Parenthood executives on tape saying that they would sell the baby body parts for particular prices because they needed to buy Lamborghinis and such.
00:27:01.000So, this went to a grand jury in Harris County.
00:27:03.000They indicted no one from Planned Parenthood.
00:27:05.000Instead, they decided to indict the two whistleblowers.
00:27:08.000They decided to indict the two whistleblowers on two counts.
00:27:12.000So apparently they were using fake IDs with fake names, so they used fake California IDs with fake names.
00:27:17.000And two was, they decided to indict the whistleblowers for attempting to buy baby body parts.
00:27:22.000So, they set up a sting where they had no intention of buying baby body parts, but they wanted to prove that Planned Parenthood would sell baby body parts, and now they may go to jail.
00:27:32.000And on the fake ID question, okay, I don't know a 16-year-old in the United States who's never used a fake ID at any point.
00:27:38.000I may be the only one who never used a fake ID.
00:27:40.000And there are illegal immigrants all over Texas and California using fake IDs.
00:27:45.000Sandy Berger smuggled out national security documents in his pants and didn't end up going to jail.
00:27:50.000Hillary Clinton put classified information on her personal server and is not going to jail.
00:27:55.000So, these guys, it carries a 20 year sentence.
00:27:57.000They could go to jail for 20 years for having used a fake ID in order to infiltrate an evil organization to demonstrate how evil they were for the public.
00:28:06.000Which just goes to show you that the criminal justice system can indeed be flawed if you have a prosecutor who's out for political purposes.
00:28:13.000And most of the time when it comes to criminal justice cases, there's not really a particular purpose attached, but when it comes to abortion, in some cases, there is.
00:28:20.000Because this is what we call, pure and simple, a railroading.
00:28:24.000Democrats, back in October, were asking Attorney General of California Kamala Harris to prosecute the whistleblowers on these same grounds, on the ID grounds.
00:28:34.000One, was Planned Parenthood killing babies and selling their parts?
00:28:37.000Two, were the people investigating Planned Parenthood using fake IDs?
00:28:41.000And the grand jury decided the people selling the fake IDs were the real problem.
00:28:44.000Which, even if you believe that they broke the law and the Planned Parenthood people didn't, that's more a question of what we should do to change the law than it is these people should go to jail.
00:28:57.000Okay, I want to do some things that I like and some things that I hate, because the truth is, it's kind of a slow news day, and everybody's sort of waiting for the Republican debate, which is supposed to happen.
00:29:07.000Donald Trump making noises about skipping the Republican debate.
00:29:10.000So, time for some things that I like and time for some things that I hate.
00:29:15.000Somebody asked me what kind of music I like listening to.
00:29:17.000I've said before, I'm a big classical music fan.
00:29:20.000And so here is my, probably my favorite piece of violin music.
00:29:26.000People constantly asking, not constantly, I get sporadic questions about what's my favorite violin music because I was a world-class violinist.
00:29:33.000The Brahms Violin Sonatas are probably my favorite violin music.
00:29:37.000It's obviously piano and violin, that's what a sonata is.
00:30:41.000There's a piece by Elizabeth Merriweather.
00:30:43.000Elizabeth Merriweather, if you've never heard of Elizabeth Merriweather, there's no reason you should have, she is the creator and executive producer of New Girl on Fox, which is actually a quasi-funny show.
00:30:51.000Like New Girl, at least at the beginning, I think it sort of died about halfway through the second season, but the first season of New Girl is actually a pretty funny show.
00:30:58.000She's now written a piece that is her erotic fantasy about Ted Cruz.
00:31:04.000Seriously, it's her erotic fantasy about Ted Cruz.
00:31:06.000And she quotes Ted Cruz talking to... Oh, what's the name of that chick?
00:31:20.000So you remember Ellen Page confronted Ted Cruz and she asked him about same-sex marriage.
00:31:25.000And Ted Cruz said, I don't see why you guys are so upset about how gays are being treated in this country when gays are treated pretty great in this country.
00:31:31.000They're killing gays over in ISIS land and you don't care.
00:31:33.000So, Elizabeth Meredith Weather quotes Ted Cruz, and then she says,
00:32:06.000I brought Ted Cruz up to my hotel room with the promise of showing him my lower back tattoo of the Second Amendment, where all the vowels were replaced with yin-yangs.
00:32:14.000But I think we both knew what had to happen next.
00:32:16.000And then there's this whole weird thing where he's crying and he won't have sex with her, so she takes him down to a secret basement where sex-obsessed liberals go to have sex with one another like beasts.
00:32:27.000Quote, there was Matt Damon dipping his testicles, she doesn't use the word testicles, into Nancy Pelosi's hair like a bird of prey laying eggs in a nest of twigs.
00:32:58.000So this is what leftists consider to be humorous.
00:33:01.000And then, finally, they end up meeting Barack Obama, who, for some odd reason, apparently, is naked and beautiful and playing a tambourine.
00:33:14.000So, this is how people in Hollywood think.
00:33:17.000And this is what people in Hollywood think is funny.
00:33:20.000And what I'm just confused about is, are we in third grade?
00:33:24.000Did I miss the part where this is considered high-class, high-brow humor?
00:33:27.000This, by the way, was one of Lena Dunham's friends from Girls, some chick named Jenna.
00:33:32.000And she edits when Lena Dunham is busy abusing her younger sister, presumably.
00:33:37.000And Jenna writes that this is the finest piece of parody fiction that she's ever read.
00:33:43.000Which, I mean, honestly, the only shock there is that she can read.
00:33:46.000But this is what leftists consider to be humor.
00:33:49.000Humor is a bunch of people doing random sexual things to each other for no apparent reason, and Ted Cruz is a prude.
00:34:12.000I remember one time I had a very poor law firm interview record coming out of Harvard Law because I was conservative and my resume had the titles of my books on it.
00:34:20.000I remember there was one interview that I did, I think I've said this before, with a guy from Gibson Dunn, which was supposedly a conservative firm.
00:34:28.000And as I walked in, before I could even sit down, he said, It's always been my contention that conservatives and religious people in general have a Freudian fear of sex.
00:34:36.000This is how he leads off a law firm interview.
00:34:38.000At that point, I knew I wasn't getting the job, so I told him he was a stupid idiot.
00:34:41.000Um, and I said that was the dumbest thing that I've ever heard.
00:34:43.000But, people on the left have the- they do have a real obsession with sex.
00:34:47.000Like, the accusation is that people on the right are obsessed with sex.
00:34:49.000No, people on the right are obsessed with sexual morality.
00:34:52.000People on the left are obsessed with sex.
00:34:54.000My people on the right understand that sex is part of a healthy life, they understand that sex is part of a healthy marriage, they understand that sex has its place, and they are obsessed with the idea that if sex overruns those boundaries, it ends up infecting the society with real externalities like the rise in STDs and single motherhood.
00:35:10.000People on the left are just obsessed with where people put their genitals.
00:35:13.000People on the left just are deeply crazed with what is the next fad, right?
00:35:18.000And they're always obsessed with pushing the boundaries.
00:35:19.000All human beings like to push boundaries, but the left thinks that all boundaries have to be broken, which means they're constantly searching for the next taboo.
00:35:26.000Which is why, eventually, the left is going to full-scale embrace pedophilia.
00:35:30.000And all of the... you know, there's a movie out that's... a very good movie called Spotlight, that... I'll probably talk about Spotlight tomorrow, I think, because I'm in the middle of the film.
00:35:38.000But the... but... you know, the left is very much against pedophilia, for now, right?
00:35:43.000And you wonder how long it's going to last, because as they lower the age of consent, they're already saying at Salon.com, well, who are you to label people who have attraction to children?
00:35:53.000These are folks who are obsessed with sex.
00:35:55.000And I'm sorry, but if your contention is you're not obsessed with sex, so you write a pornographic story about Ted Cruz, you're sort of proving Ted Cruz's point just...
00:36:04.000Alright, so some other things that I hate.
00:36:07.000Woody Allen and Miley Cyrus are now doing a series for Amazon.
00:36:11.000Woody Allen, by most accounts, should probably be in prison for child molestation.
00:36:16.000The evidence that he molested his stepdaughter are pretty significant.
00:36:21.000And there's a reason that his son, well really it's not his son, it's actually Frank Sinatra's son,
00:36:26.000Frank Sinatra's son Ronan Farrow was tweeting today that he can't believe Woody Allen is doing another series.
00:36:32.000He says if you're a molester or a rapist, then you get away with it in Hollywood, which is basically true.
00:36:36.000He's doing a series with Miley Cyrus, so all the perversions unite there.
00:36:40.000And speaking of Hollywood, I want to talk briefly about there's a new movie that's supposed to be coming out, and it's making a big splash over at Sundance.
00:36:47.000It's this new movie called Birth of a Nation, but it's not like 1919 Birth of a Nation.
00:36:52.000It's not the Ku Klux Klan going after black rapists.
00:37:26.000And he started with a bunch of slaves, and then he eventually gathered 70 enslaved and free blacks, and he ended up killing a bunch of people.
00:37:33.000And there's one significant problem with all of this, and this is the problem that I have here, by the way.
00:37:38.000There are 55, or somewhere between 55 and 65 whites who were killed in the rebellion, and afterward, 200 black people were hanged or murdered, and there were a bunch of laws that were passed.
00:37:49.000Apparently state legislatures passed all sorts of laws cracking down on slaves, preventing them from learning how to read, preventing them from learning how to write.
00:37:56.000There had to be white people present at any sort of religious ceremonies in which slaves were involved.
00:38:31.000The point I'm making is that because we refuse to acknowledge the real reason that slavery ended, because we refuse to acknowledge the brave white folks who worked with black folks on their behalf, because we do that, we exacerbate racial tensions now, today.
00:38:45.000Because remember, this movie isn't coming out in 1831 or 1855.
00:38:52.000So, the purpose of the film is obviously to suggest, and this is what you'll get, I promise you, in the press junket, Mathis apparently has been watching this closely, but at the press junket, I guarantee you, what you're gonna hear is that the world is still deeply racist, Western civilization is still deeply racist, and this movie shows how far we've come, but how far we still have to go, that black people are still fighting their white oppressors in Western civilization.
00:39:12.000And so, the idea is the more militant you are toward white people, the more you get.
00:39:42.000I discussed the movie Suffragette here on the podcast, and I said that they made it seem like it was women who were fighting that ended the male patriarchy and allowed women to vote.
00:39:51.000It actually prevented men from voting to allow women to vote for approximately at least a decade.
00:39:58.000So in other words, militants toward the dominant social structure that is already moving toward your side is not a particularly useful tactic, but the left has decided that militants is the best possible strategy, and it actually does have some cultural ramifications.
00:40:11.000If the idea is that you have to rebel against white society, that's how you get what you need.
00:40:15.000That's not how change actually comes about, not in the United States, and really not in the United States historically.
00:40:23.000And so, again, that's not a rip on Nat Turner, really.
00:40:26.000It's not a rip on John Brown even, although John Brown is more controversial.
00:40:30.000It certainly is a rip on Hollywood, which seeks to glorify vigilantism when it's convenient, but forgets that vigilantism actually did not
00:40:37.000Benefit or forward the interests of black people or women and it's not gonna forward the interests of people today I mean they make movies like Stonewall and and and movies like suffragette and movies like This movie about Nat Turner in the suggestion that if black people rise up and riot in Ferguson or Baltimore This is somehow forwarding the cause it isn't it's actually
00:40:59.000All of these candidates now have to do this sort of cultural reach out.
00:41:04.000They do these dances, and they do these... You know, we've seen Hillary Clinton doing the whip and the nene, which is something that I think everyone could live without.
00:41:12.000Marco Rubio has now done another video where he's playing football, and here it is.
00:43:15.000If the kid actually gets hurt, it's not funny.
00:43:17.000It's one of those things where if I bump my head, my wife laughs until I have to go to the hospital.
00:43:22.000And then it has Marco Rubio throwing footballs in various public figures ranging from Grover Norquist to my friend Larry O'Connor over in D.C.
00:43:31.000Catching footballs or being hit by footballs, and it's pretty funny.
00:43:35.000The reason that I dislike this is because basically, as I always say, our celebrity and political figures have now merged.
00:43:42.000I can't imagine Abraham Lincoln doing a lot of this.
00:43:45.000It's hard to imagine George Washington doing a lot of this.
00:43:48.000So, okay, I guess it's sort of charming, but it's also kind of sad.
00:43:52.000Final note, okay, so there's something that you should check out on Twitter if you haven't already.
00:43:57.000It's something that I just had some fun with today.
00:44:00.000I was thinking about it, and after watching that town hall between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, I actually, it occurred to me, because I'm a sick person, it occurred to me that I actually would watch a rom-com.
00:44:11.000They're making a rom-com about, they're making a romance drama about Barack and Michelle, which is ugh.
00:44:17.000But what I would actually watch is a rom-com
00:45:06.000I have two options for the ending of Burning for Love.
00:45:08.000Option one is that it's sort of bittersweet, that it was...
00:45:13.000It was just a moment in time and they sort of let it pass them by, Bernie and Hillary, and they go on running against each other and she goes back to Bill.
00:45:20.000And then the second option is that she divorces Bill, marries Bernie, and then Bernie becomes president and she ends up as first lady again.
00:45:29.000So those are the two options for the brand new movie, Burning for Love, starring Larry David as Bernie Sanders and Harvey Fierstein as Hillary Clinton.