The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 70 - Why Trump and Sanders Won: We Love Tyrants

00:00:00.000 It's Wednesday, and here we are, the day after the New Hampshire primary.

00:00:04.000 And just when you thought that the universe was about to give us a glimmer of hope, the asteroid of death wiped out everything.

00:00:10.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:00:11.000 We will also talk in more uplifting terms about things that I hate, which is always uplifting.

00:00:16.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:17.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:25.000 So first the results and then I'll talk about why I think that basically all human life may have ended yesterday.

00:00:31.000 And that's that's my optimistic side speaking there.

00:00:33.000 So okay, so here's what actually happened in New Hampshire yesterday.

00:00:36.000 Hillary Clinton got her clock cleaned.

00:00:38.000 This is the good side of the coin is that Hillary Clinton got destroyed and that's just fun mostly for spectator sport.

00:00:44.000 So he beat...

00:00:46.000 Bernie Sanders, who's a 79,000-year-old socialist, an absolute loon bag, old man screaming at the moon, he beat her by 22 points in New Hampshire.

00:00:56.000 He beat her 60% to 38%.

00:00:59.000 Thank God, in the Democratic Party, they really worry about fairness on a really deep level.

00:01:04.000 They want to make sure that everybody gets their fair shot and their fair share.

00:01:07.000 So they then redistributed the delegates.

00:01:09.000 So Hillary Clinton actually ended up with 15 delegates, and Bernie Sanders ended up with 13 delegates.

00:01:14.000 Yes, that's right.

00:01:14.000 Bernie Sanders won by 20 percentage points and got less delegates than Hillary Clinton because that's the way the Democrats work it.

00:01:21.000 They have these things called superdelegates and the superdelegates are basically just handpicked cronies of the Clintons who vote for Hillary Clinton when asked to do so.

00:01:29.000 So Bernie Sanders just destroys her and ends up losing the delegation anyway.

00:01:35.000 So, in terms of the breakdown of the polls, he beat her 93% to 5% among those who valued honesty and trustworthiness, which makes you wonder who the 5% are.

00:01:45.000 He beat her by 11 points among women.

00:01:49.000 So remember yesterday we played Madeleine Albright saying that any woman who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton had a special place in hell.

00:01:55.000 Hell's gonna be really, really full of women who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:01:59.000 Bernie Sanders won every single non-elderly, non-wealthy group.

00:02:02.000 Literally, the only people who voted for Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire were old, rich women. 1.00

00:02:08.000 So basically, Hillary Clinton's friends.

00:02:09.000 That's pretty much who voted for Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire.

00:02:14.000 Meanwhile, on the Republican side of the aisle, Donald Trump just destroyed all comers.

00:02:18.000 He ended up winning, I think, 35% of the vote.

00:02:21.000 They're still tallying a couple of precincts that are left.

00:02:23.000 So he won 35% of the vote.

00:02:26.000 John, oh God, no, not John Kasich!

00:02:30.000 He won 16% of the vote, so Trump doubled him up.

00:02:32.000 I don't know.

00:02:48.000 The Cruz camp spent less than a million dollars on television advertising in New Hampshire to win 12% of the vote, or 11% of the vote.

00:02:55.000 Why is that relevant?

00:02:56.000 Because the guy who came in just behind Ted Cruz was Jeb Bush, who also won 11% of the vote.

00:03:01.000 Jeb Bush spent $35 million.

00:03:04.000 I don't think so.

00:03:22.000 So, for several thousand votes, he spent $35 million.

00:03:28.000 Ted Cruz spent $800,000 to win the exact same number of votes.

00:03:31.000 Marco Rubio, he came in fifth.

00:03:36.000 Fifth.

00:03:37.000 Fifth.

00:03:38.000 Fifth.

00:03:39.000 And that's because, obviously, of his gaffe on Saturday.

00:03:42.000 And we'll talk about where he goes from here and how he's playing.

00:03:47.000 All of that.

00:03:47.000 And I want to give a brief breakdown of what the rest of this race looks like.

00:03:50.000 So Hillary Clinton, we'll get into, I want to save kind of my discussion for Hillary Clinton about what she's doing, what her strategy is for tomorrow.

00:03:57.000 Suffice it to say that Bernie Sanders is cleaning up among white voters and Hillary Clinton is cleaning up among black and Hispanic voters. 0.96

00:04:03.000 So basically Hillary Clinton is Barack Obama in 2008. 0.96

00:04:06.000 Almost exactly.

00:04:09.000 Hillary Clinton ends up losing Iowa in 2008, and then she wins New Hampshire in 2008, and then she goes on to lose the nomination when Barack Obama cleans her in South Carolina because 50% of the electorate in Democratic primaries in South Carolina is black.

00:04:22.000 And 87% of those people went for Barack Obama last time around.

00:04:26.000 This time around, Hillary wins Iowa. 0.99

00:04:30.000 I mean she really lost Iowa but she wins Iowa and then she goes to New Hampshire and she gets destroyed and now she's gonna go to South Carolina where she's got her black firewall and that's pretty much what it is. 0.69

00:04:39.000 She needs black voters to show up for her in outsized numbers. 1.00

00:04:43.000 Unfortunately for her, today Bernie Sanders is holding a meeting with racial conflagrationist Al Sharpton.

00:04:49.000 Bernie Sanders just got an endorsement from Harry Belafonte.

00:04:53.000 And Bernie Sanders just got an endorsement from Ta-Nehisi Coates, who is considered, you know, this all-wise, all-knowing black thinker.

00:04:59.000 Really, Ta-Nehisi Coates is an overrated, opaque writer.

00:05:03.000 His thought is extraordinarily muddy and muddled.

00:05:06.000 He's the same guy who said that on 9-11 he hates the racial legacy of the United States so much that he watched the towers come down on 9-11 while sitting on the top of his apartment building smoking dope and not feeling anything.

00:05:18.000 He said that out loud.

00:05:19.000 He endorsed Bernie Sanders.

00:05:21.000 All of which is to say that Bernie may actually be giving Hillary a race among minority voters. 0.99

00:05:25.000 If he wins 40% of minority voters, she's toast. 0.96

00:05:29.000 Kiss Hillary Clinton goodbye, and that would just be eminently satisfying in every possible way. 0.99

00:05:35.000 It would be wonderful, it would be delightful.

00:05:38.000 It'd be like watching The Witch King of Endor. 0.81

00:05:40.000 You remember when he gets killed, he sort of crumbles inside and then...

00:05:45.000 That's sort of what you'd end up with if Hillary Clinton were to implode based on what Bernie Sanders is doing. 1.00

00:05:53.000 So, that's what's going on on the Democratic side.

00:05:55.000 On the Republican side, Trump is now the clear frontrunner.

00:05:58.000 Trump has a lead in South Carolina.

00:06:00.000 They're saying the polls are old.

00:06:01.000 They are.

00:06:02.000 It's before Iowa and New Hampshire.

00:06:04.000 But coming off this massive victory in New Hampshire, nothing really changes from the polls before Iowa.

00:06:08.000 He had the momentum going in.

00:06:10.000 He has the momentum now.

00:06:11.000 In the polls in South Carolina, Trump is at I think 32% in the RealClearPolitics polling average.

00:06:17.000 Cruz is at like 19%.

00:06:18.000 Rubio's at 12%.

00:06:20.000 Jeb is at 10.

00:06:21.000 And here's the big problem for people who are anti-Trump.

00:06:25.000 The big problem for people who are anti-Trump in the establishment is that all of the establishment candidates who are supposed to be winnowed away by New Hampshire, no one's going anywhere.

00:06:34.000 John Kasich's going to stick around now because why not?

00:06:37.000 He has nothing better to do with his life.

00:06:38.000 And by the way, he just finished second in New Hampshire, so he can say with honesty that he did better than Jeb Bush, who's still going to be around.

00:06:47.000 Who is spending scads, oodles, reams of money.

00:06:50.000 I mean, he's printing money just to flush it down the television advertising toilet and win low percentages of votes.

00:06:55.000 He has declared victory in New Hampshire.

00:06:58.000 And the media's doing the same thing.

00:07:00.000 Media's saying, oh, well, Jeb, that was a real comeback, Jeb. 0.86

00:07:02.000 Really, if you had told anybody a year ago that Jeb Bush was going to finish so far out of the money in Iowa that you don't even know where in order he finished, and that Jeb Bush was going to finish fourth in New Hampshire, and that he'd be declaring victory, everybody would have said you're nuts.

00:07:17.000 Well, Jeb Bush goes forward now, and the reason he goes forward is because the guy who was supposed to do well in New Hampshire, somebody I suggested last week when the momentum was behind him, might even have a shot to challenge Trump because he was moving up in the polls three points a day,

00:07:30.000 Senator Marco Rubio.

00:07:32.000 Rubio imploded.

00:07:33.000 Rubio finishes fifth.

00:07:34.000 Rubio, he says now that it's his own fault.

00:07:37.000 He performed badly in the debate.

00:07:39.000 He also performed badly after the debate.

00:07:41.000 His entire campaign didn't know how to handle the campaign gaffe, which really was a bad gaffe.

00:07:46.000 And so now he goes into South Carolina with no momentum.

00:07:49.000 He's in serious, serious trouble.

00:07:51.000 And if he doesn't somehow consolidate any base of support, if for example, Chris Christie just dropped out of the race.

00:07:56.000 So Chris Christie's great contribution to American letters this year has been to make Donald Trump President of the United States by killing Marco Rubio in this campaign.

00:08:06.000 The bottom line is that Rubio's chances of winning South Carolina are very low.

00:08:11.000 Very low.

00:08:12.000 And if you look at the GOP schedule from here on out, how many states can Marco Rubio go without winning anything?

00:08:19.000 I mean, we already had Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina.

00:08:22.000 He was supposed to be doing well in Nevada, but that's after South Carolina where he's not going to win.

00:08:27.000 So if we go to Nevada and he performs poorly, Nevada is Trump territory.

00:08:31.000 Cruz has a good base in Nevada.

00:08:33.000 Good shot, he doesn't win there.

00:08:35.000 And all of a sudden, it's March 1st.

00:08:36.000 And March 1st is what they call the SEC primary.

00:08:38.000 And the SEC primary is a bunch of southern states that Ted Cruz is going to dominate.

00:08:43.000 This includes Alabama, Alaska, where Cruz has an advantage right now, Arkansas, Colorado, that might be the only state where Rubio theoretically has a good shot to win, Georgia, which is Cruz territory, Massachusetts, which is clearly Trump territory given how New Hampshire performed, Minnesota, which is probably Trump territory,

00:09:00.000 Oklahoma, which is Cruz territory.

00:09:02.000 Tennessee, Cruz territory.

00:09:03.000 Texas, Cruz territory.

00:09:04.000 Vermont, Trump territory.

00:09:06.000 Virginia, Cruz-slash-Trump territory.

00:09:09.000 So Rubio, theoretically, could go all the way to March 5th without having won a single state.

00:09:13.000 And maybe Jeb, you know, does better than expected in South Carolina, but what is driving Trump to the top of the polls, among other things, is the fact that Jeb is still in the race.

00:09:22.000 I mean, Jeb is tailor-made for Trump.

00:09:24.000 Jeb is just one of those things that, when you were a kid, you remember that you'd get the inflatable doll with, like, the weighted sand on the bottom that was round on the bottom, you'd hit it, and it would pop back up.

00:09:31.000 That's basically what Jeb is to Trump.

00:09:34.000 Every so often, they show up at a debate, and Trump just clocks Jeb, and Jeb falls away, and then he comes back, and he's still made of air, but he thinks he's winning, because he's still there.

00:09:43.000 And as long as he stays in the race, it's going to be very difficult for Marco Rubio to grow.

00:09:48.000 Chris Christie is getting out, but Chris Christie had two conversations with Trump today.

00:09:51.000 He could theoretically endorse Trump, which is incredible.

00:09:54.000 So the race is basically a mess for anybody who's an establishment person, which in a certain sense makes me happy.

00:10:00.000 I hate the establishment GOP.

00:10:02.000 I think they're terrible at what they do.

00:10:03.000 I don't want to see Jeb as president or the nominee.

00:10:06.000 I think that Marco Rubio was a better second choice for conservatives than Donald Trump.

00:10:12.000 I think he's a better second choice than Jeb Bush.

00:10:15.000 But the establishment is taking it on the chin.

00:10:17.000 So that's the good news that comes out of New Hampshire.

00:10:19.000 The other piece of good news out of New Hampshire is that if Rubio and Bush, if all these guys clock each other, the person who benefits most is probably Ted Cruz.

00:10:27.000 Ted Cruz is now clearly the conservative lane guy.

00:10:31.000 Trump is sort of the grassroots blue-collar guy.

00:10:33.000 Most of his support tends to be moderate.

00:10:35.000 And then the establishment lane is all clogged.

00:10:37.000 So Cruz, theoretically, this could turn into a two-man race, Cruz versus Trump.

00:10:42.000 And then the question becomes, who in the establishment decides to move behind Cruz or behind Trump?

00:10:48.000 And as we were saying before Iowa, because this was sort of the question before Iowa, I think the establishment moves behind Trump.

00:10:53.000 Trump is less of a threat to them.

00:10:54.000 And this is really what I want to talk about today.

00:10:58.000 The Sanders and Trump phenomenon, everybody is just puzzled by this.

00:11:02.000 What could possibly be going on?

00:11:03.000 How could you possibly have these two outsiders both winning massive victories in New Hampshire?

00:11:09.000 I mean, understand, Sanders winning in New Hampshire?

00:11:13.000 One year ago, one year, Hillary Clinton was leading. 0.88

00:11:16.000 This wasn't her poll number, this was her lead.

00:11:18.000 Her lead in New Hampshire was 56 percentage points.

00:11:21.000 That was her lead in New Hampshire.

00:11:22.000 She lost by 22 percentage points yesterday.

00:11:25.000 Okay, so that is a 78, 78 point swing for Hillary Clinton in one year. 1.00

00:11:31.000 I mean, she literally almost went into negatives.

00:11:34.000 So that, I mean, that's an amazing, amazing thing.

00:11:37.000 So why exactly the thrill around Sanders and why exactly the thrill around Trump?

00:11:41.000 And more importantly, there are a bunch of independent voters who apparently were considering between Sanders and Trump, trying to figure out who they were going to vote for, Sanders or Trump. 0.98

00:11:49.000 And, you know, when you think about that, you think, OK, the voters must be dumb, right? 0.97

00:11:52.000 I mean, there's a difference between Sanders and Trump. 0.98

00:11:54.000 Trump is a successful billionaire businessman.

00:11:57.000 Trump presumably likes business.

00:11:58.000 Sanders doesn't.

00:11:59.000 He's a career politician. 0.99

00:12:01.000 Trump is a loudmouth braggart. 0.97

00:12:02.000 Sanders is a loudmouth, but he's not a braggart. 0.98

00:12:04.000 He's just a socialist.

00:12:06.000 So what exactly is the similarity?

00:12:09.000 And today, I really want to talk about a phenomenon that does concern me deeply about Trump and about Sanders, because I think that the passion for them

00:12:20.000 So let's start by going through exactly what Trump had to say in his victory speech.

00:12:28.000 So Trump gets up, and now he's finally got his big win.

00:12:31.000 And I have to say, watching Trump speak is always amusing, but more in the sense that watching my daughter kind of stumble around the living room is amusing.

00:12:40.000 Like, it's cute.

00:12:41.000 I would like for her to walk better. 0.52

00:12:43.000 But Trump, he's not the most articulate man in the world, even though his supporters tend to think that he is just Cicero.

00:12:50.000 Here's Trump in his victory speech.

00:12:53.000 Here he goes.

00:12:56.000 You know, when I came out, I heard the end of Bernie's speech, and I heard some of the beginning.

00:13:01.000 No, no.

00:13:02.000 First of all, congratulations to Bernie.

00:13:05.000 In all fairness, we have to congratulate him.

00:13:08.000 We may not like it, but I heard parts of Bernie's speech.

00:13:12.000 He wants to give away our country, folks.

00:13:14.000 He wants to give away.

00:13:15.000 We're not going to let it happen.

00:13:17.000 We're not going to let it happen.

00:13:18.000 I don't know where it's going with Bernie.

00:13:20.000 We wish him a lot of luck, but we are going to make America great again, but we're going to do it the old-fashioned way.

00:13:26.000 We're going to beat China, Japan. 0.93

00:13:29.000 We're going to beat Mexico at trade.

00:13:31.000 We're going to beat all of these countries that are taking so much of our money away from us on a daily basis.

00:13:40.000 It's not going to happen anymore.

00:13:41.000 We have the greatest business people right now in the world.

00:13:45.000 They call me all the time.

00:13:46.000 They want to be involved.

00:13:48.000 We have political hacks negotiating our deals for billions and billions and billions of dollars.

00:13:55.000 Not going to happen anymore.

00:13:56.000 We're going to use the finest business people in the world.

00:14:00.000 We are going to do something so good and so fast and so strong, and the world is going to respect us again.

00:14:07.000 Believe me.

00:14:10.000 It's that sort of command of the issues and real detailed analysis of how we're going to have an economic comeback that has drawn people to Donald Trump.

00:14:17.000 But that's not the point that I want to make here.

00:14:19.000 The point that I want to make is you heard Trump on trade. 0.93

00:14:21.000 Okay, Trump on trade basically he thinks that we're being screwed by the Chinese, we're being screwed by the Mexicans, we're being screwed by the Japanese.

00:14:27.000 First of all, the Japanese economy has been in a recession for the last 15 years. 0.99

00:14:31.000 Okay, the Japanese economy has been garbage for at least a decade. 0.93

00:14:34.000 The Chinese economy is falling back into the toilet. 1.00

00:14:37.000 The Mexican economy has been garbage for a really long time. 1.00

00:14:40.000 So if they're schlonging us, as Trump likes to put it, then why exactly are they in such terrible shape? 0.99

00:14:44.000 Because all of these countries are in really bad shape.

00:14:47.000 And why is it that a well-made product from overseas is supposed to make me feel bad about my life?

00:14:53.000 The reality is that trade is not a zero-sum game.

00:14:57.000 This is one of the problems with Trump's ideas on trade.

00:14:59.000 Trump is a protectionist.

00:15:01.000 All protectionism is, is a tax on you for buying foreign products.

00:15:05.000 That's all it is.

00:15:06.000 If you want to buy a foreign car, a tariff on that car means you have to pay more for that foreign car.

00:15:10.000 It may be a better product.

00:15:11.000 We're going to make you pay more to supposedly keep jobs here at home. 1.00

00:15:15.000 So we're going to tax you.

00:15:16.000 It's a welfare program.

00:15:17.000 We're going to tax you

00:15:18.000 So that we can keep an American car worker in his job. 0.91

00:15:21.000 That's Trump's idea.

00:15:22.000 So in other words, Trump is a big government guy when it comes to trade.

00:15:25.000 And you know what?

00:15:26.000 It turns out that Sanders and Trump are on exactly the same page.

00:15:30.000 On exactly the same page when it comes to trade.

00:15:32.000 In fact,

00:15:34.000 Donald Trump.

00:15:35.000 Sanders describes trade with China as, quote, catastrophic for our economy.

00:15:38.000 Same sort of wording as Trump.

00:15:39.000 And days ago, Trump said this, quote, the one thing we agree very much on, him and Bernie Sanders, the one thing we agree very much on is trade.

00:15:47.000 We both agree we are getting ripped off by China, by Japan, by Mexico, everyone we do business with. 0.93

00:15:52.000 So in other words, Trump and Sanders actually agree.

00:15:54.000 So you hear he says, you know, Sanders is going to give away the store.

00:15:57.000 He's going to give away the store to all these people.

00:15:59.000 Except he and Sanders actually agree on this particular policy.

00:16:03.000 And Trump goes on.

00:16:04.000 He talks about special interests.

00:16:05.000 Here is Trump continuing at his rally last night.

00:16:08.000 Special interest money, and this is on both sides.

00:16:11.000 This is on the Republican side, the Democrat side.

00:16:13.000 Money just pouring into commercials.

00:16:16.000 These are special interest folks.

00:16:18.000 These are lobbyists.

00:16:19.000 These are people that don't necessarily love our country.

00:16:21.000 They don't have the best interests of our country at heart.

00:16:25.000 We're not going to let it happen.

00:16:26.000 We can't, we have to do something about it.

00:16:29.000 When you see, when you see the kind of deals made in our country, a lot of those deals are made because 1.00

00:16:36.000 The politicians aren't so stupid. 1.00

00:16:39.000 They're making them for their benefit. 1.00

00:16:41.000 We have to stop it.

00:16:43.000 We have to stop it.

00:16:44.000 We are now going to make it for your benefit.

00:16:47.000 We're going to make the deals for the American people.

00:16:50.000 That's the way it is.

00:16:53.000 So campaign finance is super corrupt.

00:16:54.000 Everybody who's spending money on commercials is super corrupt.

00:16:58.000 Let's play clip one of Bernie Sanders' victory speech last night.

00:17:01.000 I'll come back to Trump, but let's play Bernie Sanders' victory speech clip number one.

00:17:06.000 Together, we have sent the message that will echo from Wall Street to Washington, from Maine to California.

00:17:23.000 And that is that the government of our great country belongs to all of the people

00:17:33.000 And not just a handful of wealthy campaign contributors and their super PACs.

00:17:43.000 So, you notice any similarities there?

00:17:45.000 Right?

00:17:45.000 You got Donald Trump on the one side saying, you got all these super PACs and they're running everything, money is corrupting politics.

00:17:50.000 On the other side you have Bernie Sanders saying, these super PACs are terrible, their money is corrupting everything.

00:17:55.000 This seems like not much of a choice, actually.

00:17:57.000 And the pattern tends to hold.

00:18:00.000 The pattern tends to hold.

00:18:00.000 If you look at Trump and Sanders on policy, I'm going to explain why I think that both of them are rising in a second, but their policies are actually extraordinarily similar for people who are supposed to be on opposite sides of the coin.

00:18:12.000 Trump is supposed to be this uber-capitalist and Sanders is this uber-socialist.

00:18:16.000 The truth is they're both crony capitalists.

00:18:18.000 Right, Sanders' version of socialism is not that we do away with capitalism entirely, it's that we put an 800-pound gorilla on capitalism's back, it's called the government, and then we redistribute all of the capital from certain people to other people.

00:18:30.000 Trump's idea is that the government works with certain rich people to help them at the expense of other people.

00:18:35.000 That's what he says about eminent domain, for example.

00:18:38.000 And this is, over and over you'll see there are similarities in the record.

00:18:41.000 So, for example,

00:18:43.000 Trump and Sanders both talked about Obamacare last night.

00:18:46.000 And Sanders went after Obamacare.

00:18:48.000 Here's what Bernie Sanders had to say.

00:18:51.000 Let's see if we have the clip of Bernie Sanders talking about Obamacare.

00:18:54.000 Maybe not.

00:18:54.000 So in any case, Bernie Sanders talked about Obamacare yesterday.

00:18:58.000 He said 29 million Americans should not remain uninsured and even greater numbers should remain underinsured with large deductibles and co-payments.

00:19:05.000 We should not be paying by far the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs at a time when the three top drug companies in this country made $45 billion in profit last year.

00:19:14.000 That's an obscenity, let me tell you something.

00:19:16.000 When we make it to the White House, the pharmaceutical industry will not continue to rip off the American people.

00:19:21.000 Donald Trump last week said that he would, quote, stop the insurance companies getting rich, and said, quote, we're going to take care of the people on the street dying.

00:19:30.000 How about entitlement programs?

00:19:31.000 On entitlement programs, here is Trump talking about Social Security and other entitlement programs last year.

00:19:36.000 Quote, I'm not going to cut Social Security like every other Republican.

00:19:40.000 I'm not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid.

00:19:42.000 Bernie Sanders last night.

00:19:44.000 No, we will not allow huge tax breaks for billionaires.

00:19:47.000 We will not allow huge cuts to Social Security.

00:19:49.000 Veterans needs Medicare, Medicaid, and education.

00:19:52.000 In other words, same policy.

00:19:54.000 And when people say, well, you know, Trump, the real thing that he runs on is immigration, right?

00:19:59.000 Trump's big thing is immigration.

00:20:01.000 Okay, let's be real about this.

00:20:03.000 Trump says he wants to build a wall.

00:20:04.000 He's anti-immigration.

00:20:06.000 This is Bernie Sanders just a few years back.

00:20:07.000 Quote.

00:20:09.000 We keep bringing in all kinds of people, working for two or three dollars an hour.

00:20:12.000 That'd be great for them.

00:20:14.000 But real immigration reform puts the needs of working people first, not wealthy, globe-trotting donors.

00:20:21.000 So basically, Bernie Sanders, in his heart, he and Trump are on the same page on immigration.

00:20:25.000 Sanders still kowtows to the, we need to win Hispanics routine. 1.00

00:20:30.000 And says he wants amnesty and he wants and he wants various open cities and sanctuary cities, but the reality is they feel sort of the same on foreign policy on foreign policy.

00:20:39.000 They're very similar, right?

00:20:40.000 So for example, Donald Trump at the debate last week said quote, I was very much opposed to the war in Iraq.

00:20:46.000 A lot of these guys were all for the war in Iraq.

00:20:48.000 Look what that's got us.

00:20:49.000 Spent $2 trillion.

00:20:50.000 Now we're handing Iraq over. 0.99

00:20:51.000 Just handing it over to Iran. 0.98

00:20:52.000 I'm very much into the military.

00:20:54.000 We'll build our military better and stronger.

00:20:56.000 That's opposed to what we have now.

00:20:58.000 I was opposed to the war in Iraq.

00:20:59.000 Most conservatives, they were gung-ho.

00:21:01.000 Every one of them wanted the war in Iraq. 0.52

00:21:03.000 Look where it got us.

00:21:04.000 Trump also said that we should let Russia handle ISIS and added that he wanted to cut military spending.

00:21:10.000 And then there was Bernie Sanders last night.

00:21:12.000 Okay, Bernie Sanders last night talked about his foreign policy, and here's a direct quote from Bernie Sanders about his foreign policy.

00:21:20.000 Quote,

00:21:32.000 In other words, Trump and Sanders look a lot alike on that, too.

00:21:34.000 Now, they don't look a lot alike on tax policy.

00:21:36.000 Trump's tax policy is conservative.

00:21:37.000 Bernie Sanders' is not.

00:21:59.000 They don't look tremendously alike on social policy.

00:22:02.000 Sanders is a wild leftist.

00:22:03.000 And Trump is sort of unspecified.

00:22:05.000 He says he's pro-life now, but it's not something that pro-lifers tend to trust for good reason.

00:22:10.000 So here's the question.

00:22:12.000 Why are both Trump and Sanders doing well?

00:22:15.000 Why are both Trump and Sanders doing well?

00:22:17.000 It's the combination of two phenomena.

00:22:19.000 One is good, and one is bad.

00:22:21.000 The good phenomenon that is helping Trump and Sanders is this real rage against the corruption entitlement culture of Washington, D.C.

00:22:30.000 This insidery, we all know each other, we're all gonna help each other out, we're going to live off the backs of the taxpayer, we're gonna do what we want, we're corrupt, all of this.

00:22:42.000 It's a good phenomenon.

00:22:43.000 People should be unhappy with how the government works.

00:22:45.000 But then there's a second phenomenon.

00:22:48.000 There's a second phenomenon.

00:22:49.000 And the second phenomenon is a desire not for freedom, but for a strongman.

00:22:55.000 And this is not unique to Americans.

00:22:56.000 I mean, it is becoming an American trait, which is really disturbing. 0.86

00:23:00.000 But it used to be that Americanism, conservatism, was about opposing the strongman.

00:23:05.000 Didn't matter if you're talking a strongman of the right or a strongman of the left.

00:23:08.000 What you really want is somebody who's going to slash government

00:23:11.000 Have you ever heard Donald Trump talk about limited government?

00:23:18.000 He's talked about what he thinks government ought to do.

00:23:21.000 He's talked about winning, but has he ever given a real cohesive statement of the role of government in Americans' life?

00:23:28.000 What do you think?

00:23:29.000 I have a cohesive idea of what the government should and should not do.

00:23:32.000 The government has prescribed powers to prevent externalities from personal actions.

00:23:37.000 That's pretty much what the government is there to do.

00:23:39.000 It's there for the common defense, and it's there to stop crime and property crime.

00:23:42.000 And that's almost it.

00:23:44.000 That's pretty much it.

00:23:46.000 But I don't know what Donald Trump's philosophy of government is.

00:23:50.000 But his supporters don't know what Donald Trump's philosophy of government is.

00:23:54.000 Let's listen to Donald Trump being conservative.

00:23:56.000 So Donald Trump, he has his third, let's do his third clip here.

00:23:59.000 This is where Donald Trump does his impersonation of a conservative.

00:24:02.000 Here we go.

00:24:03.000 We're gonna have borders again, and we're gonna work with you people to help you solve that very big problem.

00:24:09.000 And we'll get it done.

00:24:21.000 That's so beautiful.

00:24:26.000 What a group of people.

00:24:28.000 You know, and on top of this group, we have thousands of people outside that can't even get in.

00:24:33.000 That's what we have.

00:24:35.000 Thousands of people.

00:24:38.000 Healthcare.

00:24:39.000 We're going to repeal and replace Obamacare.

00:24:43.000 It is a total disaster.

00:24:45.000 We're repealing and replacing Obamacare.

00:24:49.000 It's gone.

00:24:50.000 We're getting rid of Common Core.

00:24:52.000 We're going to educate our children locally.

00:24:55.000 We educate our children locally.

00:24:59.000 We are going to preserve our very sacred Second Amendment.

00:25:04.000 Okay, so the Second Amendment that he was assaulting a few years back when he said he wasn't really that into guns, but, you know, all of this is crackerjack box conservatism.

00:25:14.000 This is him reading the ingredients off the side of the crackerjack box.

00:25:17.000 Because there's no actual statement here as to what government should and should not do.

00:25:21.000 For all the flack that Ted Cruz got over his 97-hour speech in the aftermath of his Iowa caucus victory, he actually spelled out what he thought government's role was.

00:25:30.000 What government should do.

00:25:31.000 Nowhere in here do you hear any of that.

00:25:32.000 All you hear is Trump listing things, and then him glorifying himself, right?

00:25:36.000 I'm wonderful.

00:25:37.000 I'm spectacular.

00:25:37.000 All the people here are great because they're cheering Trump.

00:25:40.000 If they were cheering Cruz, they would be terrible people.

00:25:42.000 There are thousands of people outside waiting to get in.

00:25:44.000 They love me.

00:25:45.000 That just demonstrates what tremendous human beings they are.

00:25:49.000 We have a desire.

00:25:50.000 We do.

00:25:50.000 Human beings have a desire for a strong man who's gonna come in and smash the things that we don't like.

00:25:55.000 Right?

00:25:56.000 We all have this desire.

00:25:57.000 It's why we like gangster movies, because the gangsters don't actually have to... I told you I was watching Black Mass.

00:26:02.000 One of the reasons we like gangster movies is because the gangsters don't follow the rules.

00:26:05.000 They come in and they do the things that need to be done.

00:26:07.000 That's why we like Batman.

00:26:08.000 Batman comes in and he just breaks the rules and he does what has to be done.

00:26:12.000 That's why people like Death Wish.

00:26:14.000 The government fails, you do what has to be done.

00:26:17.000 And people sort of want that in a leader.

00:26:19.000 And this is less characteristic of Americanism than it is of European countries and some Latin American countries.

00:26:26.000 But it is not uncommon across planet Earth, the desire for a strong man who's going to take you where you want to go.

00:26:33.000 This is why when you talk to some Trump supporters, there are a lot of Trump supporters who are good conservatives who think that Trump is just the best guy to win.

00:26:39.000 And again, in 2011, I wrote a column called The Magic of Donald Trump.

00:26:43.000 I'm getting flack over it today because I'm criticizing Trump.

00:26:46.000 But this column I wrote back in 2011, I specifically said, Trump may be the most electable Republican in America.

00:26:51.000 Because Donald Trump doesn't care what the media thinks, because he's self-funded, because Donald Trump is willing to say anything, all of those are good reasons why Trump is super electable.

00:26:59.000 So I was right then, and I'm also right now when I say that Donald Trump has a lot of support not based on his electability,

00:27:06.000 But because they trust that he's just going to do stuff for them.

00:27:10.000 You hear this all the time.

00:27:11.000 He's going to win.

00:27:11.000 And you hear Trump say to himself, I'm going to win for you.

00:27:13.000 I've won before, and I'm going to win for you.

00:27:16.000 I'm going to make deals, right?

00:27:17.000 It doesn't matter.

00:27:18.000 I don't know what deals I'm going to make, but I'm going to make the deals.

00:27:21.000 And Sanders supporters actually say the same thing.

00:27:23.000 Sanders supporters say the same thing.

00:27:25.000 So true conservatives look at government like it's the ring of power in Lord of the Rings.

00:27:30.000 We want to take it to Mount Doom and we want to cast it into the fiery chasm from once it came.

00:27:35.000 As a general rule, there are certain things government should do, but the vast majority of government power should be taken back to that fiery chasm and cast in because no one can safely wield it.

00:27:44.000 There's no way to wield that power without it corrupting you.

00:27:47.000 Trump supporters are like, this is the nerdiest episode ever, but they're like Isildur. 0.98

00:27:51.000 Okay, so the Trump supporters are people who believe that they should be able to grasp that ring, wear that ring, and use it for their own glorification and power.

00:28:00.000 And Trump will bring America back by using the power of government.

00:28:03.000 And this is why Trump says things like, I'm gonna use government to take care of healthcare, I'm gonna use government to take care of Social Security, I'm gonna use government to take care of everything.

00:28:11.000 Right, everything will be taken care of by the government.

00:28:13.000 Even which businesses rise and fall, we're going to help decide that by making great deals because he's a dealmaker for you.

00:28:19.000 Bernie Sanders supporters believe the same thing, except they don't actually believe that the ring has any evil to it at all.

00:28:25.000 They're not even ambivalent about the ring.

00:28:27.000 They're not even tempted to throw it into the fiery chasm from whence it came.

00:28:30.000 They're Gollum.

00:28:31.000 The Democrats just want that ring, and they want it forever, and they want to keep it, and they don't care if it decays them and makes them a hollowed-out shell.

00:28:38.000 They don't care if it destroys everything.

00:28:40.000 They want the ring, and they want to hold the ring, and they want to keep the ring.

00:28:43.000 And Bernie Sanders is Gollum.

00:28:45.000 Bernie Sanders... So the solution is, we've got... So, again, the phenomenon that started all of this is government is corrupt.

00:28:51.000 Government is cronyistic.

00:28:53.000 Government is basically bad.

00:28:55.000 And then,

00:28:56.000 The second phenomenon is we want a strongman.

00:28:58.000 So what you end up with is government is bad, let's pick the crony capitalists to fight crony capitalism, or let's pick the socialists to fight big government.

00:29:06.000 Neither of these things is destined for success, but the socialists want a Hugo Chavez figure, Bernie Sanders, to ride in on the wind and use the power of government to give them all of their deepest, most fondly held desires.

00:29:16.000 And you can hear that from Bernie Sanders.

00:29:18.000 I mean, when Bernie Sanders speaks, it's all about what he can give to you.

00:29:23.000 What he can give to you.

00:29:25.000 So let's take, I think it's clip four here.

00:29:27.000 This is where he talks about economics.

00:29:30.000 And you're gonna hear that this is, his definition of democracy and rights, this is wielding the power of the ring and reveling in the power of the ring, the same ring that has destroyed, by the way, every inner city the Democrats have ever touched.

00:29:42.000 Here's Bernie Sanders.

00:29:45.000 As we all remember, the last time Republicans occupied the White House,

00:29:52.000 Their trickle-down economic policies drove us into the worst economic downturn since the depression of the 1930s.

00:30:03.000 No, we will not allow huge tax breaks for billionaires.

00:30:11.000 We will not allow huge cuts to Social Security, veterans' needs, Medicare, Medicaid, and education.

00:30:27.000 We can stop it there because what he's saying here, obviously, what's ironic is he always, Democrats say this, oh it brought us to the worst depression since the 1930s.

00:30:36.000 Say, who was in charge in the 1930s?

00:30:38.000 Oh, that's right.

00:30:39.000 Your socialist friend, FDR.

00:30:41.000 Like, for the entirety of the 1930s.

00:30:43.000 And, by the way, the policies that created the latest recession in the United States were policies that were crafted by Democrats in the housing market and allowed to go forward by cronyistic Republicans.

00:30:54.000 So basically, people like Bernie Sanders, like Barney Frank and the House Financial Services Committee, and people like Donald Trump on the right.

00:31:02.000 It was those kinds of people who ended up creating this recession.

00:31:06.000 But let's go to, Donald, let's go to Bernie Sanders.

00:31:10.000 He really made two key points here, and that is, we're gonna do, this will be clips, let's see, clips five and six of Bernie Sanders.

00:31:17.000 So here is Bernie Sanders explaining what he thinks America is based on, and what it really is based on is a principle that suggests that he should have ultimate power to do whatever the hell he wants.

00:31:26.000 Here we go.

00:31:27.000 Now, what the American people understand

00:31:32.000 is that our great country was based on a simple principle, and that principle is fairness.

00:31:42.000 Let me be very clear.

00:31:44.000 It is not fair when we have more income and wealth inequality today than almost any major country on earth.

00:31:55.000 And when the top one-tenth of 1% now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90%, that's not fair.

00:32:10.000 It is not fair when the 20 wealthiest people in this country now own more wealth than the bottom half of the American people.

00:32:24.000 So you guys ready for a radical idea?

00:32:26.000 Together we are going to create an economy that works for all of us, not just the 1%.

00:32:41.000 This is what happens when you're looking for a Caudillo.

00:32:43.000 This is what happens when you're looking for a strongman.

00:32:45.000 What you end up with is somebody like a Bernie Sanders or a Donald Trump who's gonna fix all your problems.

00:32:50.000 Because reality is rife with problems.

00:32:52.000 Reality creates problems for everyone.

00:32:54.000 We have health inequalities.

00:32:55.000 We have wealth inequalities.

00:32:56.000 We have lifestyle inequalities.

00:32:58.000 We have all sorts of inequalities in human life.

00:33:00.000 But the minute that those inequalities become the business of the government, your solution to a government that doesn't work for you is a government that does work for you, as opposed to just less government.

00:33:11.000 When that becomes your ideal, you end up with Bernie Sanders.

00:33:14.000 And by the way, it's going to get ugly, okay?

00:33:16.000 Because Bernie Sanders, the next thing he says right here, this clip 6, is basically, it's time to take out the guillotine.

00:33:24.000 Let's go full Robespierre.

00:33:25.000 Here's Bernie Sanders.

00:33:27.000 Well, my critics say, you know, Bernie, that's a great idea.

00:33:31.000 You're into all this free stuff.

00:33:33.000 How are you going to pay for it?

00:33:35.000 I will tell you how we're going to pay for it.

00:33:41.000 We're going to impose a tax on Wall Street speculation.

00:33:51.000 The greed, the recklessness, and the illegal behavior of Wall Street drove our economy to its knees.

00:34:01.000 The American people bailed out Wall Street.

00:34:04.000 Now it's Wall Street's time to help the middle class.

00:34:10.000 Go get the guillotines, folks. 1.00

00:34:11.000 It's time to grab all those rich people, bring them out into the streets, chop off their heads and take their wealth. 0.99

00:34:15.000 He wants to raise taxes by $19 trillion. 0.99

00:34:18.000 The entire economy of the United States is not $19 trillion.

00:34:21.000 You could confiscate every piece of income this year in the United States.

00:34:25.000 It would not suffice to pay for the programs that he is talking about.

00:34:28.000 And morally, what he is saying is so wrong.

00:34:31.000 What he's saying is that if you're a high earner, you therefore, we have the right to take from you everything.

00:34:35.000 First of all, the idea that everybody who's rich in the country works on Wall Street is absurd.

00:34:39.000 It's just absurd.

00:34:40.000 Most of the people who are rich in America don't work on Wall Street.

00:34:43.000 There are tons of rich people all over the United States.

00:34:45.000 Most of them do not work on Wall Street.

00:34:47.000 Second of all, the real reason that Wall Street caused this crisis is because Wall Street was working with the government.

00:34:53.000 If there had been no bailouts, there wouldn't have been a problem.

00:34:56.000 Wall Street knew there would be bailouts.

00:34:58.000 Wall Street knew there would be bailouts because all of the mortgage-backed securities were backed in the end by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which was a government-sponsored entity.

00:35:05.000 It was GSE, a government-sponsored entity.

00:35:07.000 So the government creates the conditions, and then they blame the private sector when things go bad, and then the solution on both sides of the aisle is, we need a strong man to fix all of this.

00:35:17.000 We don't need a strongman to fix any of this.

00:35:21.000 The only purpose for a strongman would be to slash the government.

00:35:25.000 This is what made George Washington such a magnificent figure in American history.

00:35:28.000 Far greater, really, I believe, far greater figure than Abraham Lincoln.

00:35:32.000 What made George Washington such a magnificent figure is that Lincoln had to maximize the power of the government in order to hold the Union together and to end slavery.

00:35:40.000 Obviously wonderful goals.

00:35:42.000 George Washington had ultimate power.

00:35:44.000 If he had wanted, he had the control of the army, he had the control of everything.

00:35:48.000 George Washington is one of the unique figures in human history because George Washington said, all the power is right here in front of me, I can feel it with both hands, and instead, I'm gonna cut myself out.

00:35:59.000 Instead, the power of the government is going to be given back to the people.

00:36:03.000 You realize what a magnificent thing that is?

00:36:04.000 That's what makes America what America is.

00:36:06.000 Not a strongman like Bernie Sanders.

00:36:08.000 Not a strongman who's gonna win for you.

00:36:10.000 Let me tell you something.

00:36:11.000 There is no strongman who wins for you.

00:36:13.000 There is none.

00:36:14.000 The only person who wins for you is you.

00:36:16.000 The only person who has your best interest at heart is you and your family, your wife and your children.

00:36:20.000 That's it.

00:36:21.000 No one else cares about you.

00:36:22.000 Bernie Sanders does not give two good damns about you.

00:36:25.000 He doesn't care about your kids.

00:36:26.000 He doesn't care about your family.

00:36:27.000 He doesn't care about your friends.

00:36:29.000 Bernie Sanders has a grand idea of what utopia should look like and everybody is either a speed bump or a tool on the road to his utopian vision.

00:36:38.000 So don't trust when people say, we need a strong man.

00:36:40.000 No, we don't.

00:36:40.000 We don't need a Trump strong man.

00:36:42.000 We don't need a Sanders strong man.

00:36:43.000 And don't tell me Trump wins.

00:36:45.000 Don't tell me Trump wins.

00:36:47.000 The only way that you win is if government loses.

00:36:51.000 I'm not talking about on foreign policy.

00:36:52.000 Government is supposed to defend us, but the only way that you win is when you have more power to control your life.

00:36:57.000 Bernie Sanders is not going to do that, neither is Donald Trump, and neither of them is going to save you.

00:37:02.000 And the ego that you see right there on the surface for Donald Trump, it's buried in the ideology of Bernie Sanders.

00:37:06.000 He has just as much of an ego.

00:37:08.000 It's just buried in the socialistic philosophy of do-goodism.

00:37:12.000 Bernie Sanders thinks he's God, too.

00:37:13.000 He just thinks that his God-like mission is to spread the wealth around, and Donald Trump thinks his God-like mission is to get everybody to put up a picture of Donald Trump in his house.

00:37:22.000 So this is what's disturbing to me about what's happening in New Hampshire.

00:37:25.000 I think it's indicative of what's happening more broadly in the country.

00:37:29.000 Okay, so in the rest of the Republican race, we'll run down some of what some of the other candidates are saying.

00:37:33.000 Marco Rubio, who, as we mentioned before, has totally been beaten about the ears in New Hampshire.

00:37:40.000 He basically admitted, this was my fault.

00:37:42.000 This never should have happened.

00:37:43.000 Here's Marco Rubio, the guy who was the great white hope of the Republican establishment and some conservatives.

00:37:49.000 It's on me.

00:37:51.000 It's on me.

00:37:53.000 I did not, I did not do well on Saturday night, so listen to this.

00:37:57.000 That will never happen again.

00:37:59.000 That will never happen again.

00:38:07.000 One of the problems with Rubio is that no matter what he says, he always seems a little bit, a little bit nervous.

00:38:12.000 Just a little bit.

00:38:13.000 Not like a lot, but a little bit.

00:38:14.000 And so when he says it'll never happen again, he's not saying it with the confidence of somebody who really, really knows that.

00:38:21.000 John Kasich, meanwhile, he's out there celebrating.

00:38:24.000 He won his big victory.

00:38:25.000 This will be the highlight of his political career.

00:38:26.000 He's got nowhere to go but down from here.

00:38:28.000 Someday you'll find him on a street corner in Los Angeles with a chopped fruit stand because that's what he's best at.

00:38:34.000 He does the hand motions, the ninja chop.

00:38:36.000 So here is John Kasich last night getting all hot and bothered about his big showing.

00:38:42.000 Maybe, just maybe, we are turning the page.

00:38:46.000 on a dark part of American politics, because tonight, the light overcame the darkness of negative campaigning.

00:38:55.000 Yeah, we can cut it there.

00:38:56.000 The light overcame the darkness of negative campaigning, except that you got doubled up by Donald Trump, the most negative campaigner in the race.

00:39:03.000 Except for that, sure.

00:39:04.000 Also, John Kasich has been doing this quasi-religious campaigning, and I just want to point one thing out.

00:39:09.000 He uses language like, the light overcame the darkness.

00:39:11.000 Imagine if Ted Cruz said, the light overcame the darkness in Iowa.

00:39:14.000 The media would lose its mind.

00:39:17.000 Their collective mind would just be gone.

00:39:19.000 Oh my god, he's talking Jesus again with this Jesus guy. 0.61

00:39:23.000 Unbelievable.

00:39:24.000 John Kasich cites Jesus as a rationale for expanding Medicaid in the state of Ohio.

00:39:28.000 And the media says, oh well, I love when he talks about Jesus.

00:39:30.000 It's just great.

00:39:31.000 I mean, when he talks about God, that's real godly behavior.

00:39:34.000 You may notice this has nothing to do with God and everything to do with leftism.

00:39:38.000 All right, finally, Ted Cruz came in third.

00:39:40.000 This is sort of a surprise finish for him.

00:39:42.000 And Cruz, you know, he's got something to celebrate.

00:39:46.000 He's now one of the top two contenders.

00:39:47.000 I still think that Trump is a prohibited favorite, but Cruz is in good position.

00:39:51.000 He's about in as good position as he could be going into a long run of primaries, many of which take place in states that favor him.

00:39:58.000 Here is Ted Cruz.

00:40:00.000 I want to congratulate Donald Trump on an impressive win tonight.

00:40:06.000 And John Kasich had a good night tonight.

00:40:10.000 But the real winner, the real winner is the conservative grassroots.

00:40:22.000 Who propelled us to an outright victory in Iowa and to a far stronger result and outcome in New Hampshire than anyone had predicted.

00:40:31.000 Okay, and that's true.

00:40:32.000 All of that's true.

00:40:34.000 The biggest problem with Ted Cruz, honestly, is his optics.

00:40:36.000 His optics are just not good.

00:40:37.000 I mean, no matter what he does, his optics are just not good.

00:40:41.000 I don't even really have to talk about it too much.

00:40:44.000 If he had the optics of Marco Rubio, he'd be an unbeatable candidate, Ted Cruz.

00:40:50.000 Alright, time for some things that I like and some things that I hate.

00:40:53.000 So, I always give you my reading list right now.

00:40:56.000 I'm doing some light reading.

00:40:57.000 A book called The Devils by Dostoevsky, so there's some light reading for you.

00:41:01.000 And if you want to, I noticed that Klaven Drew has been doing his Valentine's Day stuff I like.

00:41:09.000 Because he's a pansy and come on, but but I'm gonna do but I'm gonna do a Valentine's Day stuff.

00:41:12.000 I like thing here So the most romantic musical of all time is actually one called an American in Paris.

00:41:19.000 It's a movie musical It wasn't a stage musical and it is just beautifully done.

00:41:23.000 It's well produced.

00:41:24.000 It really is quite fantastic and one best picture actually I believe it won over a streetcar named desire and

00:41:31.000 So it's a very, very good film.

00:41:33.000 It's all Gershwin tunes.

00:41:34.000 It's terrific.

00:41:35.000 You can go out and rent it tonight.

00:41:37.000 Leslie Caron is a knockout in it.

00:41:38.000 It's a really fun movie.

00:41:40.000 I grew up on that movie.

00:41:40.000 And I do think that the traditional concepts of romance are becoming increasingly important in an age where we've decided to throw them by the wayside.

00:41:48.000 Also, in things that I like, I want to say hello to our new listener, Sarah Evans.

00:41:52.000 Sarah Evans, of course, is the country singer.

00:41:55.000 This is kind of cool.

00:41:56.000 She tweeted out yesterday.

00:41:58.000 She has almost half a million followers.

00:42:00.000 She tweeted out, my new favorite podcast and talk show, The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:42:03.000 Check him out.

00:42:04.000 So Sarah, thanks so much for watching.

00:42:05.000 I really do appreciate the plug.

00:42:08.000 That is very cool stuff.

00:42:09.000 For people who don't know Sarah Evans, here's a little bit of Sarah Evans's music.

00:42:16.000 This is from like 2003.

00:42:19.000 She was in the backyard, say it was a little past nine.

00:42:23.000 When a prince pulled up a white pickup truck Her folks should have seen it coming It was only just a matter of time Plenty old enough

00:42:41.000 So thank you, Sarah Evans, for watching the podcast and listening to the podcast.

00:42:45.000 Hand, round of applause.

00:42:46.000 So that's pretty cool.

00:42:47.000 And also, this is a person who will never be performing at a Super Bowl halftime show.

00:42:52.000 I mean, given what they will put out there, the kind of nonsense that Beyoncé put out there, the racist garbage Beyoncé put out there, I really do not think that Sarah Evans is going to be making a Super Bowl appearance anytime soon.

00:43:04.000 And if she does, I guarantee you they won't allow her to do anything conservative. 0.93

00:43:08.000 Maybe in Dallas.

00:43:08.000 Maybe.

00:43:09.000 Maybe.

00:43:09.000 I don't know.

00:43:09.000 Maybe.

00:43:10.000 Okay, let's be on the hopeful side.

00:43:12.000 Okay, now some things that I hate. 0.96

00:43:15.000 So, Lena Dunham is the worst. 1.00

00:43:18.000 Lena Dunham is a human manatee, and she also is a sexual abuser of her sister, which naturally earns her a spot next to Michelle Obama, pushing, let girls learn. 1.00

00:43:29.000 What they don't tell you in this ad is that Lena Dunham wants young girls to learn about their older sister lesbian kissing them when they're young girls and paying them candy to do so and masturbating in bed next to them when they're teenagers. 1.00

00:43:41.000 Like, that's not, I think, I don't think that's what Michelle Obama's going to talk about here, but you never know. 0.94

00:43:45.000 I mean, things are getting wild around here.

00:43:47.000 So here's Lena Dunham with Michelle Obama, two of the most charming women in America.

00:43:51.000 Ladies! 0.99

00:43:52.000 Yes, I'm talking to you.

00:43:53.000 Please don't.

00:43:54.000 The strong, educated, independent woman. 0.91

00:43:57.000 Did you know 62 million girls are not in school today?

00:44:00.000 That is crazy.

00:44:01.000 Join Lena and me.

00:44:03.000 Do your part to help girls around the world get the education they deserve.

00:44:07.000 Visit LetGirlsLearn.gov today.

00:44:10.000 And the best way to get girls to learn, of course, is to back Hillary Clinton, who has allowed basically every Muslim country to slip into anti-woman dictatorship. 1.00

00:44:18.000 That's the best way to let girls all over the world learn. 1.00

00:44:21.000 And Lena Dunham can learn you some things, young ladies.

00:44:24.000 Alright, so, next on the... next on the things that I hate...

00:44:30.000 Next on the things that I hate, Chris Matthews.

00:44:34.000 He's gone completely bananas over Ted Cruz.

00:44:36.000 I mean, of all the things in life that Chris Matthews hates, Ted Cruz ranks number one.

00:44:40.000 Here's Chris Matthews react.

00:44:41.000 By the way, MSNBC is so in the tank for Trump.

00:44:44.000 I mean, on the Republican side, they are so in the tank for Trump.

00:44:46.000 Do you know Joe and Micah from Morning Joe actually sat in Trump's room last night, his hotel room, as the New Hampshire results came in?

00:44:52.000 There's a troll-like quality to Cruz.

00:44:54.000 He operates below the level of human life.

00:45:10.000 Okay, Chris, that's a little tough.

00:45:13.000 You have not gotten sleep.

00:45:15.000 We're going to try that again.

00:45:17.000 Am I allowed to have an opinion?

00:45:19.000 I got an opinion!

00:45:21.000 Okay, let me clarify it.

00:45:22.000 I think he appeals to people's negativity, and there's something about his negativity that's menacing.

00:45:31.000 So when I say below the level of human life, I mean the good nature of human life, not just being a person.

00:45:37.000 He's not even a human!

00:45:38.000 I mean, this guy, I mean, first of all, look at him. 0.82

00:45:39.000 He's Latino. 0.98

00:45:40.000 Latinos aren't people. 1.00

00:45:41.000 I mean, only Irish people like me are people. 0.97

00:45:43.000 Those are the only people who are people. 0.92

00:45:44.000 They're the loneliest people of all.

00:45:46.000 Ted Cruz? 0.96

00:45:48.000 Terrible guy? 0.87

00:45:49.000 So negative all the time with his negativity?

00:45:51.000 I mean, I'm not negative.

00:45:52.000 I just say that people aren't human.

00:45:54.000 That's not negative.

00:45:54.000 That's just a description.

00:45:55.000 I mean, he's Latino.

00:45:56.000 He's from Cuba.

00:45:57.000 You know what I think of the Cubans?

00:45:58.000 You wouldn't want to watch two Cubans debate with each other like Cruz and Rubio. 1.00

00:46:01.000 You wouldn't want to do that.

00:46:03.000 You know what?

00:46:04.000 I need to go back to sleep.

00:46:06.000 Okay.

00:46:07.000 Bye.

00:46:08.000 So, there's Chris Matthews.

00:46:10.000 Again, the media despises Cruz because they know that Cruz is an actual threat to do all the things that I talked about earlier, like cutting government and cutting off their revenue source and cutting off all of their friendly relationships in Congress.

00:46:22.000 Cruz can't do all of those things, but Cruz can certainly make life less friendly for the folks over at MSNBC, because the people over at MSNBC rely on the patronage of the Democratic Party in order to get ahead.

00:46:34.000 Okay, final thing that, this is actually a thing that I like.

00:46:36.000 So Ted Cruz, you may have noticed I'm a fan of Ted Cruz in this primary process.

00:46:40.000 I will criticize him as somebody who's weak on optics.

00:46:44.000 I criticized him over some of his activities in Iowa, although I think that was vastly overblown.

00:46:49.000 Ted Cruz has cut a really terrific ad on Donald Trump.

00:46:51.000 Here it is.

00:46:53.000 Yes!

00:46:54.000 Look, I got the Trump action figure!

00:46:57.000 No way, that's huge!

00:46:59.000 What does he do?

00:47:00.000 He pretends to be a Republican!

00:47:04.000 I like bailouts for the banks.

00:47:06.000 Too big to fail!

00:47:08.000 I gave money to Pelosi, Reid, and Anthony Weiner.

00:47:13.000 Hey, Hillary. 1.00

00:47:14.000 I'll give you money to be my friend.

00:47:16.000 Check out my house, Mr. Trump.

00:47:19.000 That's a lousy house.

00:47:20.000 I'm gonna take your house with eminent domain and park my limos there. 0.99

00:47:25.000 Eminent domain!

00:47:28.000 Eminent domain!

00:47:31.000 We wouldn't tolerate these values in our children.

00:47:34.000 Why would we want them in a president? 0.87

00:47:36.000 Eminent domain!

00:47:40.000 Okay, so I'm always ripping on people using kids in commercials. 1.00

00:47:43.000 The reason that I don't object to it this time is because the kids are stupid, and that's the point. 0.98

00:47:47.000 So whenever you're using kids as a model of what not to do, I'm generally okay with it. 0.99

00:47:51.000 Democrats use kids as a model of what to do because Democrats are children.

00:47:55.000 Republicans say, we don't want people acting like children, so you shouldn't give them power.

00:47:59.000 And by the way, Donald Trump, as we went through earlier, all of these things are true.

00:48:03.000 Donald Trump is not a true conservative.

00:48:05.000 He's a very loud guy, and that has a certain appeal.

00:48:08.000 But loud is not conservative, and strong man does not mean you get what you want.

00:48:13.000 Even if you do get what you want, it's only a temporary matter, because who knows which way Donald Trump turns tomorrow.

00:48:19.000 And we will be back tomorrow with more on this topic and others, as well as the Vaunted Ben Shapiro Show Mailbag.

00:48:25.000 It's a Thursday tomorrow, so we'll do that.

00:48:26.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:48:27.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - February 10, 2016

Ep. 70 - Why Trump and Sanders Won: We Love Tyrants

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