A clip from Team America: World Police that explains why people like Donald Trump can be summed up in two words: "I like you. You have balls." Plus, I make fun of Joe Pesci in the movie "The Goodfellas" and explain why Republicans have always felt like they're a racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobe. Plus, we have to get to me making fun of Mathis later. Ben Shapiro is a conservative commentator and host of the conservative radio show "The Ben Shapiro Show" on the Fox News Channel. He is also a regular contributor to the conservative media outlet Fox News and hosts the conservative podcast "The Weekly Standard" and is a frequent contributor to conservative publications such as The Weekly Standard, The Daily Caller, and The Daily Wire. He is married to the wife of former NFL player Anthony "Frankie" Munger and they have a son, a daughter, a son-in-law, and a daughter-to-be, a boy, a girl, and an infant son. He has a job and a wife, and is very good friends with his wife. He's also a good friend of mine and a very funny guy. I think you'll agree with me that Donald Trump is a great guy and I think he's a great presidential candidate. I hope you do too. Enjoy the show. - Ben Shapiro - The Ben Shapiro's Show - Subscribe to my new podcast, Subscribe on iTunes and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and other podcasting platforms. Subscribe and share the podcast on your thoughts on social media! if you like what you're listening to the show - I'm listening to it! Subscribe, share it and share it with your friends! and subscribe to my other podcast! I'll be listening to your fellow podcasters! Tweet me and tell me what you think about it on your feed! Timestamps: in the comments section! Thanks for listening to this episode of to let me know what you thought of the show? or your thoughts about it? if it's funny or not funny? and what you re listening to me on your favorite podcasting experience is funny, I'll leave me a review? or what s funny, what do you think of it's funnier than that's funny, and I'll send me a star rating or a review!
00:00:56.000So, in Team America World Police, there's a moment in which the hero of the film, whose name is Gary Johnston, he attempts to infiltrate a terrorist group.
00:01:07.000And he gives this long speech about how he was hurt by the Americans.
00:01:11.000He's pretending to be a Muslim Arab terrorist at the time.
00:01:33.000That clip, along with what I'm about to show you, sum up the Donald Trump phenomenon.
00:01:37.000So, from the Goodfellas, if you recall, in the Goodfellas, Joe Pesci, who's one of the most frightening characters ever to play on screen, Joe Pesci, who actually is a guy who apparently is mobbed up, he plays a guy named Tommy.
00:01:49.000And there's a very famous scene from Goodfellas.
00:01:51.000If you've never seen the movie, it's a real guy movie.
00:01:53.000It's not something that most women are into.
00:01:55.000There's a select group of women who like this movie.
00:01:57.000My wife, though, for example, would despise this movie.
00:01:59.000But there's one moment that sort of sums up who this Tommy character is, this Joe Pesci character, and let's play it.
00:03:27.000Donald Trump is the guy, he's the big swingin', you know, he's the guy who's busting everybody's balls, and that's a big thing in the Good Bellas, all these guys busting each other's balls, and the idea is that the bigger man is always intimidating everybody else.
00:03:53.000They've got President Obama telling them they're racist, sexist, bigot, homophobes.
00:03:57.000If they could just drop the masculinity at the door, that would be great.
00:04:00.000You got Hillary Clinton saying that Americans are secret rapists who are attempting to kill black people.
00:04:04.000They really need a more feminine president.
00:04:07.000You've got Bernie Sanders saying, we have to take that sort of explosive testosterone-y American-ness, you know, the kind that produces economic booms, and we have to curtail it.
00:04:38.000He makes these ridiculous over-the-top promises that he may never keep.
00:04:41.000He makes ridiculous over-the-top threats that he probably will never fulfill.
00:04:44.000His opponents are not opponents, they're enemies and they have to be destroyed.
00:04:48.000Everything he does is big, everything that he does is bold, and there's a scene in which Joe Pesci, in this film, near the beginning, beats a guy to death for mocking him.
00:04:57.000The guy tells Joe Pesci to go get his shine box, because he used to be a shoeshine boy, and Joe Pesci literally beats the man to death.
00:05:03.000He calls him a mother-blanker, and then he beats him to death.
00:05:17.000So he has balls, and apparently, just like in Team America, voters like balls.
00:05:21.000There's only two problems with this, of course.
00:05:23.000The first is that Tommy in The Goodfellas is the kind of guy where, about two-thirds of the way through the movie, for no reason at all, he just shoots a guy.
00:05:32.000There's a guy who's hanging around, his name is Spider, and at one point, he tells Tommy to go F himself, and Tommy just shoots him.
00:05:42.000He could be joking around with one guy one minute, and then you could kill him the next.
00:05:45.000That's what makes that scene actually incredibly tense, is that you've seen him do these kinds of things.
00:05:50.000So you don't know if he actually, he's so unstable, is he actually going to kill Ray Liotta sitting right there in the Goodfellas?
00:05:57.000Second, gangster films, the reason we like gangster films is because they're all about consolidation and power.
00:06:02.000They're all about, will the Corleone family be able to overcome all of the divides in their own family to beat back the various other families in New York?
00:06:40.000Again, the response to the pansy years of Obama and Hillary and the left and Hollywood, which tells us that all men are villains because men are testosterone filled and all women are heroes, but only if they ditch men and act like men.
00:06:53.000Ronda Rousey is a hero, but the mom who stays home and takes care of her two kids is not.
00:06:57.000This idea has created a backlash, and the backlash is, if we can't find anybody who's really masculine on the Republican side, we just go for the most masculine-looking guy there is, and that's Donald Trump.
00:07:07.000So with that in mind, here's Donald Trump as Joe Pesci yesterday.
00:07:11.000He did a press conference yesterday, and he's very, very upset with Ted Cruz, because Ted Cruz has been running all sorts of ads in South Carolina that point out that Trump is not really conservative, and he's been bashing Trump as not fully conservative.
00:07:24.000And so Trump did a press conference yesterday in which he basically threatened the Republican Party.
00:07:29.000He said, I'm going to run third party.
00:07:48.000So he'll go up and he'll absolutely lie.
00:07:50.000In fact, Henry, who is Lieutenant Governor, said, I can't believe the things he's saying, because he understands the views on everything, and he just comes out and boom, boom, boom.
00:08:05.000And if he doesn't, I'm going to bring a lawsuit because, in my opinion, based on what I've learned over the last two, three days from very top lawyers, he doesn't even have the right to serve as president or even run as president.
00:08:44.000Now, the only way to fight Trump is on his own terms.
00:08:47.000Once you get into—and this is a common thing, by the way, in all cultures.
00:08:51.000In all cultures, there are games where men fight each other.
00:08:54.000When I was in high school, there'd be guys dissing each other.
00:08:56.000There's a game apparently in the black community called The Dozens that's been kind of glorified in film, where people insult each other.
00:09:03.000You've got breaking each other's balls in the mafia movies.
00:09:05.000It's a very common masculine form of showmanship.
00:09:08.000It's kind of, we're going to show how tough we are without actually having to kill each other.
00:09:12.000Trump is playing this game with everybody, as a columnist for the New York Post says today, and nobody on the Republican side of the aisle knows how to play the game.
00:09:18.000So you mentioned this yesterday, and when Trump did this at the debate, you had Ted Cruz saying, you know, adults don't, you know, adults don't interrupt each other, Donald.
00:09:27.000And Donald, and Trump immediately responds, oh yeah, you're a real adult, Ted.
00:09:34.000And that's why I said yesterday what actually needed to happen is somebody needed to look right at Trump and they needed to say, you're a spoiled brat, you grew up rich, nobody's ever said boo to you, nobody's ever said no to you because you've been able to buy your friends, you have to hire people to come to your wedding, and you're the guy who's sitting up here telling us what a tough guy you are?
00:09:51.000Sit down, shut up, you have nothing to say, the only reason you're here is because you're extraordinarily wealthy.
00:09:56.000If you're a poor guy, no one would care what you have to say.
00:09:58.000And the only reason you're rich is because your pops gave you $400 million.
00:10:02.000If somebody actually said that to Trump, now we're engaged in the game, right?
00:11:26.000What would have been funny there is if somebody had actually interjected, Donald, name those people again.
00:11:30.000Those two judges, because clearly he doesn't know, right?
00:11:33.000That's why he keeps saying there are these two people, and I mentioned them, and I don't remember their names right now, but I mentioned them.
00:11:38.000The reason that Cruz says that Trump would appoint liberal judges is because the person who he had said before all of this he'd appoint was his sister, who's a federal appeals court judge, and who has said in the past that partial birth abortion is mandatory under the Constitution.
00:11:51.000It's a right under the Constitution, partial birth abortion.
00:12:47.000That's what Trump said during the debate.
00:12:49.000Here's what Trump said yesterday about what he said two days ago.
00:12:52.000I didn't see the debate live, and I read about it afterwards, and it said, Trump says Bush lied purposefully and got us into 9-11 based on a lie.
00:13:33.000I mean, did it come down during his reign?
00:13:35.000So, you know, you can't say your brother kept us safe because after the World Trade Center, I mean, the World Trade Center came down during his reign.
00:13:43.000And frankly, there was a lot of information that the CIA and the NSA, you know, you had a lot of different agencies that were poorly coordinated.
00:13:50.000Because they could have found out about this.
00:13:52.000You know, there's a lot of theory that they did not get along, and they were not sharing information properly, and they could have maybe done something about it.
00:14:01.000But you can't say that the World Trade Center, you know, was not like an event.
00:14:06.000I mean, he was president, the World Trade Center came down, and you have Jeb, who doesn't even like using his last name, you have Jeb, and for good reason, I understand that, but you have Jeb saying that his brother kept us safe.
00:14:19.000Okay, so you've got Trump saying that.
00:14:21.000Well, what Trump actually said there, I mean, you heard, first of all, Mike Gallagher does a terrible job there asking the question because nobody said that Trump said that Bush got us into 9-11, right?
00:14:30.000What Trump said was 9-11 happened on Bush's watch and
00:14:34.000You hear him double down on that, basically say that Bush should have known Bush should have done something about it.
00:14:38.000By the way, his spokesperson came out yesterday and said that Jeb Bush should have done something about 9-11 because he was governor of Florida at the time when Zacharias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, was doing his flight training in Florida.
00:14:49.000Because apparently he was doing that flight training in Jeb's basement or something.
00:14:52.000But what's ridiculous about this, you hear Trump and he's just lying.
00:15:10.000And because the right doesn't know how to play this game, because the right has no clue how to play this game, and they don't know what it signals, and again, it's universal to human cultures.
00:15:18.000There are no human cultures in which men do... By the way, it's in animal culture, too.
00:15:22.000You'll see, I just read this book, The Professor in the Cage.
00:15:26.000In which they talk about how animals will present to each other, like they'll growl at each other, they'll do fangs and basically do what they call the monkey dance, where they just dance around each other and mock combat.
00:15:38.000That's when you see deer and they go at each other and they fight each other.
00:15:40.000You notice they never kill each other.
00:15:42.000They just fight each other to establish dominance.
00:15:44.000That's what Trump is doing rhetorically here, and the right doesn't know how to fight it.
00:15:47.000So instead, they trot out George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
00:15:50.000So here's George W. Bush ripping Donald Trump at a rally yesterday.
00:15:53.000George W., by the way, he's campaigning for Jeb exclamation point Bush.
00:16:13.000I think you should look for someone whose humility helps him understand what he doesn't know and surrounds himself with people who do know what he doesn't know.
00:16:30.000So he says that Trump just isn't humble at all, right?
00:16:35.000You have Dick Cheney doing the same thing here as Dick Cheney saying that Trump sounds like a liberal Democrat.
00:16:40.000He sounds like a liberal Democrat to me, Brett.
00:16:43.000He's wrong, and he's, I think, deliberately promoting those views in order to advance his political interest on the question of the WMD charge that the administration lied.
00:16:57.000That was thoroughly investigated by the Rob Silberman Commission.
00:17:01.000They found absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support that.
00:17:05.000On the notion, for example, that the President failed to act before 9-11 to stop it, we had no actionable intelligence at that point.
00:17:15.000There was nothing we could have done, and we didn't have intelligence at that point to suggest other than there's a general kind of a threat.
00:17:22.000Now, again, nothing that he's saying is wrong, but Trump's response to all of this, all of this is,
00:17:52.000One of the most disappointing things about this race is watching Rubio and Cruz, both of whom I like, go at each other while basically leaving Donald Trump alone.
00:18:00.000Like, while Cruz is trying to defend against Trump, Rubio sees his opening and jumps on top of Cruz.
00:18:07.000All of the Rubio supporters who were fighting angry for months that Ted Cruz would not attack Trump, now they're just fine with Marco Rubio not attacking Trump so that he can attack Cruz.
00:19:21.000is responsible for the content of this advertising.
00:19:24.000So the Rubio campaign got in touch with some television stations and got very, very upset about this and got a couple of television stations to pull it.
00:19:31.000Rubio then went on the campaign trail and he said that Ted Cruz is lying about his immigration record.
00:19:36.000So, let's take a minute and go through Rubio's position on immigration.
00:19:40.000Or rather, his positions on immigration, all 1,167 of them.
00:19:44.000Because Marco Rubio is all over the place on immigration.
00:19:47.000The Gang of Eight bill did, in fact, give incentives to cities to be sanctuary cities.
00:19:52.000That's in the Gang of Eight bill that Marco Rubio endorsed.
00:19:55.000So back when he ran for Senate, Marco Rubio said, quote, I'm strongly against amnesty.
00:19:59.000The most important thing we need to do is enforce our existing laws.
00:20:02.000Then he got into the Senate and he pushed forward this Gang of Eight bill.
00:20:06.000So the Gang of Eight bill would have allowed millions of illegal immigrants a pathway to citizenship.
00:20:11.000It authorized spending with no guarantee of border security.
00:20:13.000It allowed government services for people who are granted amnesty.
00:20:17.000Eventually, Rubio dropped his support, and now he's lying and saying that the version of the bill he supported originally was never meant to pass.
00:20:31.000In April 2015, he said of Obama's executive amnesty, quote, He said to Univision, and Cruz quoted him on this in the debate, and this is when Rubio said, And then Cruz started jabbering in Spanish to him, and it's just, what a terrible debate.
00:21:16.000In November, he said that he wants illegal immigrants not to get citizenship, but they should be given a green card.
00:21:21.000Which, of course, as anybody who knows anyone who's ever had a green card means, you can apply for citizenship.
00:21:25.000That's what a green card allows you to do.
00:21:28.000After a certain period of time, my wife became a citizen because she had a green card, and she used that green card to apply for citizenship.
00:22:35.000One of my favorite political ads of all time was a radio ad, rural Arkansas, where the announcer said, wouldn't it be great if somebody running for office said something
00:22:49.000We could have an immediate reaction as to whether it was true or not.
00:23:11.000We need to get that dog and follow him around, and every time they say these things, like, oh, you know, the Great Recession was caused by too much regulation.
00:24:32.000Then, that's going on now in our party.
00:24:35.000If you don't deal with the fact that we are politically polarized, and we keep rewarding people who tell us things they know they can't do, because it pushes our hot buttons, we can't go forward together.
00:24:49.000First of all, Bill knows something about hot buttons being pushed.
00:24:52.000Second of all, it's clear that if you're actually watching the tape of this, Bill Clinton has no idea where he is.
00:24:57.000I mean, he could be in his bathroom for all he knows right now.
00:25:00.000He is totally out of it, and he is reviewing lesbian pornography in his mind as per his usual.
00:25:06.000So he's out there insulting the Bernie Sanders supporters as too polarized, as too far left.
00:25:12.000I mean, that means that he's already running a general election campaign, and so is Hillary Clinton, and so, by the way, is Donald Trump.
00:25:19.000Trump and Bill and Hillary are all part of the same group.
00:26:37.000I remember when he called me to say how terrible the Republicans had been to me and Hillary, and how unfair they were, and what a brilliant job Hillary did as a senator.
00:26:48.000So — and by the way, a lot of Republicans thought that, which is why they spent the last three years trying to tear her down, because they know if you nominate her, they're going to have to eat the words that they said when they weren't running for office.
00:27:07.000Every time Bill gets to an applause line, his mouth kind of opens randomly, and it looks like he's going to start drooling.
00:27:13.000But in any case, you've got the guy there with the Trump sign, and he says at one point, you hear him shout to Clinton, you took Trump's money, right?
00:27:34.000So number one, somebody or both of them are lying, right?
00:27:37.000Because one is saying I gave him money to do things and I got those things, and the other is saying he gave me money and I used it for whatever I wanted to.
00:28:21.000It's a very serious time, and I don't want to start lecturing you about what a serious time it is, but we spent the entire broadcast yesterday talking about the impact of Justice Scalia's death, and the fact that we are one Supreme Court justice away from losing everything.
00:28:34.000From the Constitution becoming a club that the left can use to push forward social policies, economic policies, gun policies of their choosing, to push those down the throats of the American people.
00:30:23.000Anyone that writes checks to John Kerry and Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid does not care about putting conservative justices on the court, because those individuals fought tooth and nail to prevent conservative justices, and we are one justice away from losing the Second Amendment.
00:30:38.000If you vote for Donald Trump, we will see the Second Amendment written out of the Constitution, because one liberal justice will do that.
00:30:50.000It is amazing, by the way, how Fox News treats Cruz as adversarial there.
00:30:55.000I mean, they're really treating him like, you know, but Trump says this and Trump says that and Trump says that he would never appoint a liberal justice.
00:32:29.000You know, the Supreme Court's in the middle of considering the President's executive order to let Dreamers stay in the country.
00:32:35.000That's essential to over a million young people.
00:32:38.000Considering the very burdensome restrictions Texas placed on women's reproductive decisions, that could affect millions of women.
00:32:46.000They're going to have a big, big impact deciding the fate of President Obama's plan to cut greenhouse gas pollution and address climate change.
00:32:54.000So I think the Supreme Court deserves nine justices, and I think we should demand that the Senate do its duty and receive and act on whoever the president nominates.
00:33:06.000Let me ask you about your position about appointing a Supreme Court justice should you be elected president.
00:33:11.000Your rival Senator Sanders says he would put a litmus test.
00:33:14.000They must be someone who wants to get rid of Citizens United.
00:33:21.000Well, I would hope that anybody I appoint
00:33:24.000...understand the grave damage that Citizens United is doing to our democracy.
00:33:30.000I think we need to appoint Supreme Court justices who are living in the, you know, the real give-and-take of the world... Okay, we can pause it there.
00:33:38.000I mean, this is... So, in other words, she says that it's against Scalia's idea for the Senate to have advice and consent, but...
00:33:46.000Hillary Clinton also says that we need people who don't abide by any element of Justice Scalia's philosophy.
00:33:51.000That's what we really need on the Supreme Court.
00:37:21.000It's gonna be sad when he loses, but it's good that he's in it.
00:37:27.000Also, on my reading list, I always give you the update on my reading list.
00:37:31.000The book Nudge by Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein is an important book because this is one of the founding documents of the Obama administration.
00:37:38.000Whenever they talk inside the Obama administration about using the power of government to nudge people towards certain behavior,
00:37:44.000This is what they're talking about, and so I like to read what the left has to say so that we can learn how to combat it and what's there that's of use.
00:37:50.000So I will give you an update after I have read that book.
00:38:01.000And I know Mathis has been waiting with bated breath for the other shoe to drop.
00:38:05.000And now it's gonna drop, but this shoe isn't just gonna hit Mathis, it's also gonna hit Andrew Klavan.
00:38:09.000So Klavan, the other day, I listen to Klavan's show every day, as you should, over at Daily Wire, and you should subscribe so you can see all of this and enjoy it.
00:38:19.000Klavan does his Things That I Like, which was the genesis for Things That I Hate.
00:38:23.000And Stuff I Like, Klavan said, and you recommended this, this was his last pre-Valentine's Day recommendation, was the movie Shakespeare in Love.
00:39:00.000So, Shakespeare in Love, the reason that it's stupid is because the entire premise of Shakespeare in Love is that Shakespeare needed to get it on in order to write.
00:39:08.000That this was basically Shakespeare's drive.
00:39:09.000That Shakespeare, if it hadn't been for him getting laid regularly, then Shakespeare would have just turned into a dried-up poet who wasn't able to utter a word.
00:39:17.000He needed to experience love with the most vacuous person on earth, Gwyneth Paltrow, in order for him to be able to write great poetry and terrific plotlines.
00:39:24.000And, by the way, he didn't even come up with his plotlines.
00:39:26.000It was Christopher Marlowe who came up with his plotlines.
00:39:30.000Never mind the fact that Christopher Marlowe is a raging anti-Semite, but that's aside from the point.
00:39:34.000Also, they make it out that the historical incorrectness of it is one element, which is just, there's so much historically incorrect here that it's not even worth it to really go into it.
00:39:45.000I mean, the idea that the Earl of Wessex is heading off to America to grow tobacco is like 50 years before anyone was growing tobacco in America.
00:39:53.000The idea that Romeo and Juliet started off, Romeo and the Pirate's Daughter,
00:40:01.000But what's particularly insulting is the idea that great artists, people who work at their art, people who work at their craft, what really inspires them is getting laid regularly.
00:40:40.000He says that that's unfair to the script, that it's really about how love, how love is what causes people to write well.
00:40:47.000Except that at the very beginning of the movie, there's a scene where Shakespeare, played by the entirely effeminate Joseph Fiennes, does a routine where he's having sex with some random broad, and then he goes and writes a scene for Romeo and Juliet, and it's magnificent, and he's super excited about it.
00:41:03.000What utter nonsense, what utter stupidity.
00:41:06.000Shakespeare was a genius because Shakespeare was a genius.
00:41:08.000He wrote beautifully about human emotion, not because he was in a lusty relationship with a woman dressed as a man dressed as a woman dressed as a man.
00:41:16.000It's a dumb movie, and the fact that it beat L.A.
00:41:19.000Confidential for Best Picture that year is just a travesty.
00:41:32.000Number one, over the weekend, Kanye West started tweeting that he's $53 million in debt, and then he begged Mark Zuckerberg over at Facebook to bail him out.
00:41:41.000Because Kanye West is an insane person, and Kanye West said that he's the greatest artist in two generations, and thus, he should be bailed out.
00:41:48.000He said all he wants to do is engage in his art, which he could do for free.
00:41:52.000I mean, I'm not sure why we should rack up $53 million of debt.
00:41:55.000That's not the part about Kanye West that I actually hate.
00:41:58.000The part about Kanye West that I hate is that he has now decided
00:42:02.000He has now decided that white people should not be able to review his albums.
00:42:09.000He wrote this on Twitter, quote, to Pitchfork, which is a publication, to Pitchfork, Rolling Stone, New York Times, and any other white publication, please do not comment on black music anymore.
00:42:19.000So, never mind the fact that 80 to 90% of the entire hip-hop audience is white.
00:42:25.000Really, like it's all white suburban kids who listen to hip-hop.
00:42:29.000Never mind the fact that all those people reviewing Kanye is what helps make Kanye famous.
00:42:34.000Never mind the fact all those are super, super duper leftist publications that bend over backwards to praise Kanye's stupidity, his yeezes, idiocy.
00:42:41.000West tweeted, quote, I love, love, love white people.
00:42:44.000But you don't understand what it means to be the great grandson of ex-slaves and make it this far.
00:43:22.000He's 38 years old, so he's six years older than I am.
00:43:25.000Okay, my great-grandparents got to the United States in 1907.
00:43:29.000So, unless his great-grandmother was having kids at like age 65, I don't think the math totally matches up here, because the Civil War ended in 1865, so presumably if they were ex-slaves, she would have had been born in like 1855.
00:43:40.000Okay, so that means that Kanye West was born in 1977.
00:43:45.000Okay, a generation is approximately 30 years.
00:43:48.000Okay, this would mean that everybody, that there were like three generations where everybody had kids at 40.
00:43:51.000So, I'm not doubting that he is descended from slaves, that's probably true, but I don't think that he's the great-grandson.
00:43:56.000He might be the great-great-grandson or the great-great-great-grandson of ex-slaves, just in terms of the timing.
00:44:36.000For that matter, black people shouldn't review white people's stuff.
00:44:39.000And whenever a white person says something, a black person apparently should shut up.
00:44:42.000They don't understand the white experience.
00:44:44.000I mean, if some racist says something anti-black, maybe black people should just shut up because they don't understand that racist background.
00:44:50.000How do they know where that racist came from?
00:45:35.000Because then they truly understand what it's like to be the victimized great-grandson of people who were killed.
00:45:41.000You know what I've never said in my entire life?
00:45:43.000People shouldn't review my work or comment on my comments because my great-great-grandparents were busy getting killed in pogroms in Russia.
00:46:43.000I mean, deeply pitchy and screamy and horrible.
00:46:47.000And as somebody who grew up in a musical family, I mean, like, my sister had a full opera scholarship at USC, my dad is a professional pianist, I played violin near-professionally for many years, like, this is... I know the difference between somebody who has talent and somebody who is riding their 20 pounds of extra fat to prominence, and, uh, Adele is the latter.
00:47:07.000And tomorrow we'll talk about 20 pounds of extra fat when we get to the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition.
00:47:12.000Well, we'll save that for tomorrow because I know that we're running short on time, but the actual thing at the Grammys that I really dislike
00:47:18.000As you know, who won the Spoken Word Award at the Grammys?
00:47:21.000You know, who won the Spoken Word Award at the Grammys?
00:47:33.000He won a gold for his, at the event, for his memoirs, for his audio book, A Full Life, Reflections at 90, in the Best Spoken Word Album category.
00:47:45.000When he won for Our Endangered Values, America's Moral Crisis, he was nominated in 1998, 1999, 2008, 2010, and 2015.
00:47:53.000That great spoken word artist, Jimmy Carter.
00:47:59.000You know, the guy who used to stand in the Oval Office with a sweater on and jabber about how you needed to keep your thermostat low because oil prices were too high.