The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 76 - Why Donald Trump Will Win The Nomination

00:00:00.000 It's a Monday, and here we are.

00:00:01.000 It's after the South Carolina primary.

00:00:04.000 The new, the, what is it, Nevada caucuses are coming up soon.

00:00:07.000 I have one reaction to how South Carolina went, and I can basically sum it up in one word.

00:00:20.000 There's some hyphens in there.

00:00:21.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:22.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:24.000 I tend to demonize people who don't care about your feelings.

00:00:31.000 As is my custom at the beginning of a new week, I like to preface everything with the statement, I hate everyone and everything.

00:00:38.000 Because that's where we are right now.

00:00:41.000 Donald Trump wins South Carolina and it's becoming a constant refrain that things keep happening on Saturdays.

00:00:46.000 While I'm enjoying my Sabbath, I'll have a nice relaxed Sabbath.

00:00:49.000 Sabbath will end, I'll come back online and the world is completely on fire.

00:00:53.000 I'll come back online and it feels like Lex Luthor has succeeded in destroying the San Andreas Fault

00:01:01.000 And Lois Lane is being sucked down into the chasm.

00:01:04.000 It's just, it's so bad.

00:01:05.000 So I come back, and Trump has won the South Carolina primaries, I think 32, and then it was 22 for Cruz and Rubio.

00:01:14.000 I said on Friday, at Daily Wire anyway.

00:01:17.000 And I maybe even said it on Thursday on the show, that the worst case outcome was exactly this.

00:01:22.000 Right?

00:01:22.000 And at this point I'm gonna stop using the phrase worst case outcome, because there's apparently always an outcome worse than what I have imagined.

00:01:28.000 But what I said is, if Rubio were to surge, you end up with Cruz and Rubio basically even, and you end up with Trump on top, and then neither Cruz nor Rubio will drop out, we're just in it for the long haul.

00:01:39.000 And that's precisely what happened, because that's the way that this is all gonna go. 0.63

00:01:43.000 It's just gonna be crap all the way from here,

00:01:46.000 There's a real deep desire on the part of a lot of Trump supporters for Trump, and I think a desire on the part of people who aren't Trump supporters to kind of see what happens. 0.95

00:01:56.000 I was talking with Andrew Klavan and Jeremy Boring before the show, and one of the things I was saying to them is that there's a famous rule in drama.

00:02:04.000 It's a rule that's written by Anton Chekhov, the famous dramatist, famous playwright, and what he said is if you're writing a two-act play, never put a gun over the mantle in the first act unless you're going to use it in the second act.

00:02:14.000 Because it creates a feeling of suspense if the gun is there, and if it doesn't get fired by the end of the second act, then you really haven't done your job as a playwright.

00:02:21.000 It's beginning to occur to me that this is not just normative.

00:02:24.000 It's not just something you should do.

00:02:25.000 It is also descriptive, meaning that human beings have an intense desire to see the trigger pulled.

00:02:31.000 So if we know that the gun is up on the mantle,

00:02:34.000 It's got to be pulled before the end of the second act.

00:02:36.000 We want it to be pulled before the end of the second act.

00:02:38.000 I remember when I was watching Lord of the Rings, the trilogy, I hadn't read the books and I did what a lot of folks did with the new Star Wars movie.

00:02:44.000 I blacked myself out on all knowledge of what was going to happen in Return of the King.

00:02:49.000 I mean, we got to the very end of Return of the King.

00:02:51.000 I'm not going to issue a spoiler alert since the book has been out for 70 years and the movie's been out for 10.

00:02:56.000 At the very end of Return of the King,

00:02:59.000 You get to the very end, and Frodo is about to throw the ring into Mount Doom, and instead, he turns around and he says, the ring is mine, and he takes it.

00:03:08.000 And it's really dramatically satisfying, because if he hadn't done that, if he just took it and threw it into the flame, you'd have gone, well then, it wasn't that strong a ring, was it?

00:03:16.000 I mean, you have to see it work on him.

00:03:19.000 You realize that

00:03:20.000 For all three movies, you haven't been waiting for Frodo to throw the ring into the fire.

00:03:23.000 What you've actually been waiting for is for Frodo to be seduced by the ring.

00:03:27.000 You've been waiting for him to go full scale from Innocent Hobbit and the Shire to full Gollum.

00:03:33.000 And, you know, the ring ends up in Mount Doom anyway along with Gollum, but that's the point.

00:03:37.000 It's the same thing with Trump.

00:03:38.000 There's a desire, and I think I said this even before the Iowa caucuses,

00:03:42.000 That if Trump were to flame out, it would be so anticlimactic after all this buildup.

00:03:47.000 And so I think there are a lot of people out there who sort of feel the same compulsion.

00:03:49.000 It's like, you know, you want to be part of the story.

00:03:52.000 You want to be part of history.

00:03:54.000 There's only one problem.

00:03:55.000 This story is not a good story.

00:03:56.000 This story does not end well. 0.96

00:03:58.000 This story ends with Donald Trump as the nominee, and then we've got the most corrupt person maybe in the history of American politics, Hillary Clinton, on one side, and on the other side we've got Donald Trump, who doesn't know his ass from his elbow on policy, and that's the kind interpretation. 0.85

00:04:11.000 The less kind interpretation is that he does, and he just does whatever is convenient for him, because this is all about Trump. 0.66

00:04:17.000 And here's just a couple of examples. 0.96

00:04:19.000 Again, this has become sort of a daily phenomenon where we fact-check Donald Trump, which is essentially a fool's errand.

00:04:25.000 But here is Donald Trump talking about what was in his head in 2002 with regard to Iraq.

00:04:31.000 So he actually said to Howard Stern back in 2002 that he thought it'd be a good idea to invade Iraq.

00:04:36.000 And Chuck Todd says, yeah, but in all your debates, you keep saying that you thought it was a bad idea.

00:04:40.000 What did you mean by that?

00:04:41.000 And here is Trump explaining it away.

00:04:43.000 We have an idea who the enemy is, and a lot of times the politicians don't want to tell you that.

00:04:47.000 Are you for invading Iraq?

00:04:49.000 Yeah, I guess so.

00:04:53.000 I wish the first time it was done correctly.

00:04:55.000 Now, clearly, you didn't sound like an enthusiastic supporter of the war.

00:05:00.000 But I am curious of the second part of that quote.

00:05:03.000 I wish the first time it was done correctly.

00:05:07.000 What do you mean by that?

00:05:09.000 Well, what I mean by that is it almost shouldn't have been done and, you know, I really don't even know what I mean because that was a long time ago and who knows what was in my head.

00:05:18.000 I think that it wasn't done correctly.

00:05:20.000 In retrospect, it shouldn't have been done at all.

00:05:24.000 It was sort of, you know, it was just done.

00:05:25.000 It was just we dropped bombs.

00:05:28.000 If you look back, actually, that was probably the correct way of doing it, not going in and not upsetting, giving him a lesson and not.

00:05:35.000 I mean, I think Senior actually did a pretty good job of what he was doing.

00:05:40.000 He went in, he taught him a lesson.

00:05:42.000 What happened is he was taunted because Saddam Hussein was saying, we drove back the Americans. 0.93

00:05:48.000 The ugly Americans were driven back. 1.00

00:05:50.000 The power of Iraq, the power. 0.99

00:05:52.000 Well, we were driven back.

00:05:53.000 He just decided not, General Schwarzkopf and others said,

00:05:57.000 Maybe let's not go in.

00:05:58.000 I'm not sure, although I think Schwarzkopf actually maybe wanted to go in.

00:06:01.000 I think he maybe did the right thing.

00:06:03.000 I can say this.

00:06:04.000 If you look at my conversation with Howard, who's a friend of mine, who's actually a very good person, a good guy.

00:06:09.000 Different from what you see on the radio.

00:06:10.000 Okay, I won't tell you.

00:06:11.000 But if you look at my conversation, I was a very... That was probably the first time... Don't forget, I was in business.

00:06:17.000 I was a businessman.

00:06:18.000 I was a real estate man and a businessman.

00:06:20.000 That was the first time I think that question was ever even asked of me.

00:06:23.000 That was long before the war took place.

00:06:25.000 That was, you know, many, many months before the war took place.

00:06:27.000 And you could see by my answer, I wasn't exactly thrilled.

00:06:31.000 He said, in that clip, that one clip, which is like 45 seconds long, Trump takes, I think, four separate positions on this.

00:06:39.000 One, I don't know what I was talking about.

00:06:40.000 Two, the war was prosecuted badly.

00:06:43.000 Three, the war was prosecuted great.

00:06:46.000 And four, it didn't matter what I said anyway, because I was a businessman at that point.

00:06:50.000 He took four separate positions in one 45 second clip and his people are going, oh, we can trust him.

00:06:56.000 We can totally trust him.

00:06:57.000 He's gonna be completely consistent.

00:06:58.000 We know for what he stands.

00:07:00.000 I know what he stands for.

00:07:01.000 He stands for Trump.

00:07:02.000 That's what Trump stands for.

00:07:03.000 And that's an amazing... It's an amazing... I don't know what I was talking about, but I guess, you know... The part that's amazing is where he says that we shouldn't have gone in in the first place, but then we should have gone in, but we did it wrong, but we did it right... What?

00:07:15.000 But that wasn't his only big boo-boo of the weekend.

00:07:17.000 He was also asked about whether he wants to defund Planned Parenthood.

00:07:20.000 And here's Donald Trump talking about Planned Parenthood with Chuck Todd.

00:07:26.000 There's some comic actor he's beginning to look more and more like, and it's slipping my mind.

00:07:31.000 We'll have to come back to it when I figure it out.

00:07:32.000 Okay, here's Trump and Chuck Todd.

00:07:35.000 If you knew the government money were only going to that, would you support funding Planned Parenthood?

00:07:40.000 Yeah, if it didn't have to do with abortions.

00:07:42.000 Look, I understand it.

00:07:44.000 I have many, many friends who are women who understand Planned Parenthood better than you or I will ever understand it.

00:07:50.000 And they do some very good work.

00:07:52.000 Cervical cancer, lots of women's issues, women's health issues are taken care of.

00:07:56.000 I know one of the candidates, I won't mention names, said, we're not going to spend that kind of money on women's health issues. 0.99

00:08:01.000 I am.

00:08:02.000 Planned Parenthood does a really good job in a lot of different areas, but not on abortion.

00:08:08.000 So I'm not going to fund it if it's doing the abortion.

00:08:11.000 I am not going to fund it.

00:08:12.000 Now they say it's 3% and it's 4%.

00:08:14.000 Some people say it's 60%.

00:08:16.000 I don't believe it's 60% by the way, but I think it's probably a much lower number.

00:08:20.000 But Planned Parenthood does some very good work, but I would defund as long as they're doing abortions. 0.99

00:08:28.000 Okay, so now, I mean, he reduces you to guttural moans because his butchery of the English language and of ideas and of conservatism, I mean, he's basically the Attila the Hun of politics, just carving a swath through anything decent and good. 0.81

00:08:43.000 When Donald Trump says things like, Planned Parenthood, I have many women who understand Planned Parenthood better than any of us ever will.

00:08:51.000 Really?

00:08:52.000 Really, will they? 1.00

00:08:53.000 What do they understand about Planned Parenthood because they have vaginas, Donald, that the rest of us can't understand? 0.99

00:08:57.000 It's just beyond our ken to understand what exactly Planned Parenthood does. 0.98

00:09:02.000 And then he says that only 4% of their services are abortion?

00:09:05.000 That's because what Planned Parenthood does is if you walk into Planned Parenthood and you pick up a brochure and a condom and an abortion, they count that as one-third of the services they have rendered.

00:09:13.000 Even if it takes 90% of the time.

00:09:15.000 Well over 90% of Planned Parenthood's budget goes to actual abortion.

00:09:20.000 And that's where all their money comes from, too.

00:09:22.000 They perform 300,000 of them a year.

00:09:24.000 But there he is, defending Planned Parenthood.

00:09:25.000 There's your guy, your conservative thought leader, defending Planned Parenthood.

00:09:30.000 And this is the part that's so maddening.

00:09:32.000 Jerry Falwell Jr., who leads Liberty University.

00:09:35.000 Okay, Liberty University was created by his dad, Jerry Falwell.

00:09:38.000 Jerry Falwell Jr.

00:09:39.000 leads Liberty.

00:09:40.000 Liberty has a policy.

00:09:42.000 You cannot go to Liberty University if you have an abortion. 0.96

00:09:45.000 If you are on campus and you go for an abortion, you are expelled.

00:09:49.000 Jerry Falwell Jr.

00:09:50.000 spent yesterday defending Donald Trump over what he said over Planned Parenthood.

00:09:54.000 And by the way, I still don't understand what he's talking about.

00:09:56.000 He says, so long as they're performing abortions, we can't fund them.

00:09:59.000 So long as they're performing abortions... So that means you can't fund them.

00:10:01.000 Why not just say we can't fund them?

00:10:03.000 The answer is because he got himself into a little bit of a rhetorical pickle.

00:10:07.000 He said he wanted to fund them, but not the abortions.

00:10:09.000 And then he says, well, I don't want to fund them at all so long as they're doing abortions, which means don't fund them at all.

00:10:15.000 And it's as though every word that you say about Trump falls on deaf ears.

00:10:20.000 And I'll explain why I think that is in just a moment.

00:10:23.000 Marco Rubio is tentatively kind of tapping at Trump now.

00:10:26.000 Trump today said that Marco Rubio isn't eligible for the presidency.

00:10:30.000 So this is his new strategy.

00:10:31.000 Every single person other than Donald Trump is actually constitutionally ineligible to be president of the United States.

00:10:37.000 Here's Donald Trump being knocked a little bit by Marco Rubio.

00:10:40.000 Rubio and Cruz are spending all their time and effort bashing each other, but here's Rubio going after Trump a little bit.

00:10:45.000 You say that this is now a three-man race, so I want you, lightning round rules, to do a little comparison shopping.

00:10:52.000 Why should a voter who's undecided choose you over Donald Trump?

00:10:59.000 Well, I think one of the reasons why is we have a real sense of optimism about America's future.

00:11:03.000 I'm realistic about our challenges, but I'm very optimistic about our future.

00:11:06.000 And we need someone that will restore, a campaign that will restore our confidence in who we are as a people and what we're capable of doing.

00:11:12.000 And Trump won't do that?

00:11:13.000 We also need real answers to real problems.

00:11:15.000 Rhetoric is not enough.

00:11:17.000 Well, I think Donald's campaign has largely been about how bad things are.

00:11:20.000 And there's no doubt we need to recognize how difficult things are.

00:11:22.000 But you can't just say you're going to make America great again.

00:11:24.000 You have to explain how you're going to do it.

00:11:27.000 I mean, at this stage in the campaign, voters deserve to know in great detail just exactly how it is that you are going to achieve some of these things that you're saying you're going to achieve with specific public policy.

00:11:37.000 So I look forward to having a policy debate, if we can make it a policy debate, and we'll see what direction he wants to go, but I think that's a big difference in this campaign.

00:11:45.000 And then just a fundamental understanding of foreign policy, which I think is critical for the Commander-in-Chief to have on day one.

00:11:51.000 To this point now, three states in, he still has not really demonstrated that, but again, we'll see.

00:11:57.000 As the weeks go on, maybe he'll spend some time and learn more about it, and we can have a debate about those issues.

00:12:02.000 Raise your hand if you think that critique has any impact on Trump's campaign whatsoever.

00:12:06.000 Any impact on Trump's campaign.

00:12:08.000 Anybody?

00:12:08.000 Bueller?

00:12:09.000 Bueller?

00:12:10.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:12:11.000 This will have no impact on Trump's campaign because what Marco Rubio is saying is basically Trump is a candidate with no substance.

00:12:17.000 That's true.

00:12:18.000 But, by the way, I'm not sure Marco Rubio has tremendous substance to him either.

00:12:22.000 The Chris Christie sort of critique of Rubio, that he's mechanical,

00:12:25.000 It's on full display in little clips like this.

00:12:28.000 Okay, so Trump wins South Carolina, and then it's up to the other candidates to explain how really, even though they lost, they won.

00:12:33.000 So here's Ted Cruz, the senator from Texas, talking about how secretly he won.

00:12:38.000 Nobody knows it, but secretly, he actually won South Carolina.

00:12:42.000 But listen, Chuck, the important thing is we had an incredible evening last night.

00:12:46.000 Last night, what we saw happen in South Carolina, particularly when you put Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina together, two things have happened.

00:12:54.000 Number one, there is now only one strong conservative in this race who can win, and we see conservatives continuing to unite behind our campaign.

00:13:03.000 But number two, for anyone who doesn't believe that Donald Trump is the best candidate to go head-to-head with Hillary Clinton in November, and that's about 70% of Republicans nationwide who don't think Donald Trump is the right guy, our campaign is the only campaign that has beaten Donald Trump and that can beat Donald Trump.

00:13:22.000 So what we're seeing

00:13:23.000 Is we're seeing Republicans coming to us in incredible numbers, going to TedCruz.org, signing up, volunteering, contributing.

00:13:30.000 You finish third in a state with the highest evangelical turnout that we've seen yet, and you finish third.

00:13:38.000 That sort of doesn't support what you just said, that conservatives are coming together and rallying to your cause.

00:13:45.000 So Chuck, our path to victory from the beginning was always do well in the first four states and then have a strong, strong night on Super Tuesday coming up on March 1st.

00:13:55.000 In Iowa, everyone in the press said we couldn't win.

00:13:57.000 We want an overwhelming victory in Iowa.

00:13:59.000 In New Hampshire, everyone in the press said a conservative couldn't do well in a moderate New England state.

00:14:04.000 We want a strong third there.

00:14:06.000 And then in South Carolina, we were effectively tied for second.

00:14:09.000 A week ago, Donald was 20 points ahead.

00:14:11.000 We closed that gap.

00:14:13.000 And what we saw there, there were a number of very encouraging things.

00:14:16.000 For one thing, we won young people in South Carolina.

00:14:20.000 Our campaign was in first place with young people.

00:14:22.000 By the way, we won young people in Iowa as well, and we were in second place with young people in New Hampshire.

00:14:27.000 One of the things we're seeing is young people who are optimistic, who want a future, who want our constitutional rights.

00:14:32.000 So this is Cruz's spin?

00:14:35.000 Is that he's actually doing better than expected.

00:14:37.000 In South Carolina, that's not true.

00:14:38.000 He expended real resources, real on-the-ground resources.

00:14:42.000 Trump is going to clean up in Nevada.

00:14:43.000 In a second, I'm going to talk about what the rest of this race looks like. 0.89

00:14:46.000 He also, you heard him use that statistic, 70% of Republicans don't want Trump.

00:14:50.000 Now Marco Rubio says the same thing.

00:14:51.000 Here's Rubio explaining how secretly he won.

00:14:54.000 Yeah, he lost also, but it's a secret.

00:14:56.000 Secretly, under the surface, he also won in South Carolina.

00:15:00.000 Here we go.

00:15:01.000 Taking a shot at your campaign, he's saying it's crazy that nobody else is trying to win except Trump.

00:15:06.000 Rubio is not going after the person who is winning.

00:15:08.000 I've never seen a campaign that seems as satisfied not to go after the leader.

00:15:12.000 Is it time to take on Mr. Trump directly?

00:15:18.000 Well, this is not an election like others up to this point.

00:15:21.000 As I said, you know, there's seven, eight people dividing up 70% of the vote.

00:15:24.000 And so we had a very unusual circumstance.

00:15:26.000 I was being attacked from all sides.

00:15:27.000 I mean, I had one super PAC that spent $40 million going after me.

00:15:31.000 So you can only take on so many people at one time.

00:15:34.000 And this is not about going after Donald Trump.

00:15:36.000 It isn't.

00:15:36.000 I know people want to obsess about that.

00:15:38.000 This election is about who is best capable of uniting the Republican Party.

00:15:42.000 I know that I am.

00:15:44.000 Well, he's the frontrunner when you have seven people running and they're dividing up 70% of the vote.

00:15:48.000 We need to remember here, over 70% of Republicans nationally have basically said, we're not voting for Donald Trump.

00:15:54.000 And as long as that 70% is being divided up by five people, of course he's a frontrunner.

00:15:58.000 But once that number narrows, we'll have a different election and we're getting closer to that point.

00:16:02.000 Okay, we'll stop him there.

00:16:03.000 But the number isn't narrowing.

00:16:05.000 This is the problem.

00:16:06.000 The number is not narrowing.

00:16:07.000 Okay, so we'll get to Trump's response to all of this in a second.

00:16:10.000 But take, for example, Jeb Bush.

00:16:12.000 So Jebru, exclamation point, gradually turned into a semicolon, and then gradually turned into an ellipsis, and then finally ended in a period.

00:16:20.000 And so yesterday, the exclamation point campaign came to an inglorious close.

00:16:25.000 Jeb Bush got up there and he dropped out, and he was given all sorts of plaudits for this, which I think are completely 0.97

00:16:31.000 Silly. 0.68

00:16:31.000 Here's Jeb Bush dropping out of the presidential race after underperforming and getting 8% of the vote in South Carolina. 0.68

00:16:36.000 Here we go.

00:16:37.000 Jebberoo.

00:16:38.000 I'm proud of the campaign that we've run to unify our country and to advocate conservative solutions that would give more Americans the opportunity to rise up and reach their God-given potential.

00:16:50.000 But the people of Iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina have spoken, and I really respect their decision.

00:16:56.000 So tonight, I am suspending my campaign.

00:16:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:04.000 Who's the lady shouting no, by the way? 1.00

00:17:12.000 No, Jeff, don't do it!

00:17:21.000 I congratulate my competitors that are remaining on the island on their success for a race that has been hard fought, just as the contest for the presidency should be, because it is a tough job.

00:17:34.000 In this campaign, I have stood my ground, refusing to bend to the political winds.

00:17:38.000 We put forward detailed, innovative, conservative plans to address the mounting challenges that we face.

00:17:45.000 Because, despite what you might have heard, ideas matter.

00:17:49.000 Policy matters.

00:17:59.000 And I truly hope that these ideas that we've laid out will serve as a blueprint for a generation of conservative leaders at every level of government so that we can take back our country.

00:18:10.000 We laid out plans on everything from reforming our tax and regulatory system, to reviving our economy, to rebuilding our military, and to fixing the VA once and for all.

00:18:23.000 Okay, so he goes on in this vein and people are saying, oh, it's so honorable that Jeb finally dropped out.

00:18:28.000 What a good guy to finally drop out.

00:18:31.000 And all I have to say is, so what?

00:18:35.000 He drops out and nothing happens.

00:18:36.000 Some of his money shifts behind Rubio.

00:18:38.000 That's it.

00:18:39.000 Nothing else happens, right?

00:18:40.000 He's got no votes left.

00:18:41.000 Nobody supports him.

00:18:42.000 He dumped out all of his resources.

00:18:44.000 By the way, the person shouting no when Jeb says he's dropping out, the person who goes no in the background is for sure Mike Murphy, the head of his super PACs, who spent like $100 million.

00:18:52.000 How much money did Mike Murphy make in this election cycle for running the least successful campaign in American history?

00:18:58.000 How much money do you think he actually got?

00:19:00.000 Any ideas?

00:19:01.000 The answer is he got $14 million.

00:19:03.000 Won $4 million to run the worst campaign in presidential history.

00:19:08.000 He was the one in the back shouting, no Jeb, keep running!

00:19:10.000 Keep running!

00:19:12.000 You can see the bank account just spinning like a lotto wheel.

00:19:15.000 So there we go.

00:19:17.000 So Jeb is out.

00:19:17.000 Alright, so what that brings us to now is Donald Trump.

00:19:19.000 So Donald Trump actually won in South Carolina.

00:19:22.000 And here's the thing.

00:19:23.000 Everybody's using these stats.

00:19:25.000 70% of Republicans don't like Trump.

00:19:28.000 70% of Republicans don't like Trump.

00:19:29.000 If you use the same sort of math, that means that 85% of Republicans don't like Rubio, right?

00:19:35.000 And it means that, you know, 90% of Republicans don't like Cruz.

00:19:38.000 Whatever percentages you're using, if the idea is whoever didn't vote for you doesn't like you, well then more people like Trump than the other guys.

00:19:45.000 If the idea is that these public opinion polls that show that Trump has high unfavorables

00:19:50.000 Are trusted, and people don't like him.

00:19:52.000 That's true, except for the fact that he's consistently outperforming those when it comes time for election day.

00:19:57.000 So, yes, his unfavorable numbers are really high.

00:20:00.000 But, will people get behind him against Hillary Clinton?

00:20:03.000 Probably yes.

00:20:03.000 I mean, Trump is actually right when he says this.

00:20:05.000 Here's Trump, after winning, here's what he had to say about how this is all gonna break down.

00:20:11.000 You know, I was watching upstairs, and it was really amazing to be watching what I was watching, and some of the pundits, and you know, overall fair, but not too much, but a number of the pundits said, well, if a couple of the other candidates dropped out, if you add their scores together, it's going to equal Trump.

00:20:33.000 Right?

00:20:34.000 These geniuses, they're geniuses.

00:20:36.000 They don't understand that as people drop out, I'm gonna get a lot of those votes also.

00:20:40.000 You don't just... You don't just add them together.

00:20:46.000 So... I think we're gonna do very, very well.

00:20:49.000 I think we're gonna do very well.

00:20:53.000 So, he's not wrong, by the way.

00:20:55.000 He's not wrong. 0.53

00:20:56.000 If Bush drops out, there's a significant percentage of those people, believe it or not, some of those people will go to Trump.

00:21:01.000 If Cruz were to drop out, some of those people would go to Trump.

00:21:04.000 If Rubio were to drop out, probably very few of those people would go to Donald Trump.

00:21:08.000 And Donald Trump continued along these lines.

00:21:10.000 He says, look, I'm the one who has the best shot at winning.

00:21:13.000 I'll win states that are not currently in play.

00:21:16.000 Trump continues.

00:21:18.000 He's looking, I have to say, he looks more and more like the Kool-Aid man with each clip.

00:21:21.000 I mean, he's just going to bust through that back wall and go, hey, here's Donald Trump, the Kool-Aid man.

00:21:27.000 Here we go.

00:21:28.000 They say that it'll be the largest voter turnout in the history of United States elections.

00:21:33.000 And I want to say that's a great compliment to the country because we have such a low voter turnout compared to a lot of other countries.

00:21:39.000 So I think it'll be the greatest voter turnout in history.

00:21:42.000 I mean, if it's Hillary against me, that's going to be a tremendous turnout. 1.00

00:21:47.000 I'm gonna win.

00:21:48.000 I'm gonna win places like Michigan that the Republicans can't even think of.

00:21:52.000 You know, they always talk about the six states, right?

00:21:54.000 With Ohio and Pennsylvania and, you know, et cetera, et cetera.

00:21:56.000 I won't go through the numbers, but I will win places like Michigan that people don't even talk about.

00:22:01.000 I will have a chance of winning New York.

00:22:04.000 If I win New York, the election's over, okay, from an electoral college standpoint.

00:22:08.000 I have a chance of winning New York.

00:22:09.000 I'll win states that aren't in play.

00:22:11.000 I'll win states that the Republicans don't even think of.

00:22:15.000 And one of them that comes to mind is Michigan.

00:22:17.000 And another one is New York.

00:22:18.000 Upstate New York.

00:22:19.000 I'm like the most popular person that's ever lived virtually upstate New York.

00:22:24.000 They're great friends of mine.

00:22:26.000 And we will do very well in New York.

00:22:28.000 I don't know.

00:22:28.000 Maybe win it, maybe not.

00:22:29.000 But we're going to do very... We're going to come awfully close to winning it.

00:22:32.000 I think I have a great chance.

00:22:34.000 So he's not just the most popular person in the Republican Party, he's the most popular person who ever lived in upstate New York.

00:22:40.000 Ever.

00:22:40.000 He's more popular than Jesus.

00:22:42.000 And you take a poll, it's like, Jesus here, and then Trump here.

00:22:46.000 Trump is even better than Jesus.

00:22:48.000 By the way, he's not wrong.

00:22:49.000 Again, the case for Trump is that he's electable.

00:22:53.000 The case against Trump is that he's none of the other things that you could possibly want in a presidential candidate. 0.99

00:22:58.000 He's a boor. 1.00

00:22:59.000 He's a totalitarian. 0.99

00:23:00.000 Today, Trump actually tweeted out a threat directed at the Ricketts family.

00:23:04.000 These are the people who own the Cubs.

00:23:06.000 He said, I see the Ricketts family have been giving money to my political opponents.

00:23:10.000 Well, I can threaten them.

00:23:11.000 I know some information about them they don't want to get out.

00:23:13.000 It's like, oh my God, if this guy is the president of the United States and he has the power of the state behind him, that's a little scary.

00:23:19.000 Trump, when it comes to this kind of stuff, when it comes to boosting himself, it's what he's best at.

00:23:25.000 And a campaign, contrary to what Barack Obama once said, campaigns are almost entirely boosting yourself.

00:23:31.000 So here is Donald Trump talking about how what he's engaging in is actually not a hostile takeover of the GOP, he's just taking it over.

00:23:38.000 Here we go.

00:23:39.000 To use a business term, are you involved in a hostile takeover of the Republican Party?

00:23:46.000 No, I'm not at all.

00:23:47.000 I get along with the Republicans.

00:23:48.000 There's nothing hostile about it.

00:23:50.000 I was a Republican establishment figure.

00:23:52.000 And then the day I decided to run, I became an outsider.

00:23:56.000 And more so than I even thought.

00:23:57.000 People that were totally establishment, that loved me.

00:24:00.000 You know, I was a very big contributor.

00:24:02.000 I gave $350,000 just before to the Republican Governors Association.

00:24:08.000 What's your view of the GOP establishment now, sir?

00:24:12.000 I think it's a mess.

00:24:13.000 I think it's a mess.

00:24:13.000 And I think they better get their act together because they're going to keep losing elections.

00:24:17.000 With the kind of thinking that we have with the Karl Roves and the Stephen Hayses and these characters that can't get themselves arrested, if you want to keep people like that, if you want to keep listening to people like that, you're never going to win.

00:24:30.000 You're never going to win.

00:24:31.000 They're from a different age.

00:24:33.000 They're from a different world. 0.52

00:24:35.000 They can't get themselves arrested, except by President Trump, presumably.

00:24:39.000 And again, part of what's driving the Trump phenomenon is resistance to Karl Rove.

00:24:44.000 I understand.

00:24:44.000 I'm part of that.

00:24:45.000 I think Karl Rove is terrible.

00:24:46.000 I think that Stephen Hayes, not so much.

00:24:48.000 I think some of his stuff is good.

00:24:50.000 He's just a pollster for Weekly Standard, basically.

00:24:52.000 I think Rove is awful.

00:24:54.000 But that doesn't mean that I'm willing to fall into the arms of a demagogue.

00:24:57.000 And Reince Priebus was asked by George Stephanopoulos over the weekend.

00:25:00.000 Reince Priebus is the head of the RNC.

00:25:02.000 Stephanopoulos is the chief anchor at ABC News, which again is insane since he almost made love to Hillary Clinton.

00:25:09.000 But here's George Stephanopoulos asking Priebus, okay, so Trump is running against you guys.

00:25:14.000 What do you do if he's the nominee?

00:25:17.000 Many Republicans said a liberal left position.

00:25:19.000 He was called unchristian by the Pope.

00:25:21.000 He embraced torture to fight terrorism.

00:25:24.000 He supported Democrats much of his adult life, taking positions in this campaign at odds with the Republican Party.

00:25:29.000 Sir, are you really prepared to have him as spokesperson for the Republican Party and to lead a convention that nominates him?

00:25:37.000 If the delegates get accumulated in such a way that any one of these candidates becomes a nominee, it's our job to support that nominee, and we will.

00:25:46.000 So yeah, we're prepared to support whoever the nominee becomes.

00:25:51.000 I think it's early in the process, but certainly

00:25:53.000 When the time comes and when we're sitting either before Cleveland or at Cleveland or whenever that point may come and we have a presumptive nominee, what will happen is the RNC will join in with that nominee and we will put together the biggest, which we've already started doing, the biggest ground game and data operation that we've ever seen.

00:26:12.000 And you know we've made incredible strides at the RNC in becoming far more prepared today than we were four years ago.

00:26:19.000 So yes, we will support.

00:26:21.000 To me, it's a no-brainer.

00:26:23.000 A lot of top Republicans think that's going to break the party apart.

00:26:28.000 You know what?

00:26:30.000 Winning is the antidote to a lot of things.

00:26:32.000 And so, the name of the game is winning in November.

00:26:35.000 If we win in November, all those armchair quarterbacks will fall in line and they'll obviously be pretty pleased, I think, if we win in November.

00:26:45.000 But who the nominee is going to be is not my choice.

00:26:48.000 And obviously, we're going to support whoever that is.

00:26:51.000 But you could play a big role if no nominee goes in with enough delegates before the convention to win on the first ballot.

00:26:58.000 You've said it's early in the process.

00:27:00.000 Are you prepared now for a brokered convention?

00:27:02.000 Are you planning for it?

00:27:04.000 And what does that mean?

00:27:07.000 Um, you know, planning can mean a lot of things.

00:27:11.000 We are prepared for anything.

00:27:12.000 I was general counsel for two years before I was chairman of this party.

00:27:17.000 I've been chairman for six years.

00:27:19.000 I don't think there are too many people that are more familiar with the procedures of nominating someone at a convention than I am.

00:27:26.000 So, I am prepared, and we will be prepared if that happens, but again, I don't think that's going to be the case.

00:27:33.000 If it did... So here's the deal.

00:27:36.000 You know, when he says, the key line here is where he says that victory is the antidote to everything.

00:27:40.000 That depends on whether you think the Republican Party is just a vehicle for victory, in which case they're fulfilling their mandate, or whether you think the Republican Party should be a vehicle for conservatism.

00:27:49.000 And these are two different things.

00:27:50.000 If you think it's a vehicle for victory, then you could just nominate, you know, somebody who's really far left and say, okay, that person's most likely to win, let's do that.

00:27:58.000 What have you gained through that?

00:28:00.000 If you think it's a vehicle for ideology, then you have to look at Trump and wonder, okay, is he going to actually be conservative?

00:28:07.000 And do I think the party will be torn apart?

00:28:08.000 Yeah, I kind of do.

00:28:09.000 I do.

00:28:10.000 I think that there will be a lot of people who stay home.

00:28:12.000 Eric Erickson, over at RedState, or formerly of RedState, I think he has a new site called The Resurgent, Eric Erickson writes today that he won't vote for Trump.

00:28:20.000 I don't think he's the only one.

00:28:37.000 In a couple of days or tomorrow, right?

00:28:39.000 What's the date today?

00:28:39.000 Today's the 22nd.

00:28:40.000 So tomorrow is the Nevada caucus.

00:28:42.000 Trump's gonna blow everybody out.

00:28:43.000 He's gonna win the Nevada caucus by leaps and bounds.

00:28:46.000 And then, Trump has a shot to run the table.

00:28:49.000 So right now they're saying that Trump currently leads the polling.

00:28:52.000 In 10 of the next 14 states.

00:28:54.000 Problem is those polls are really old.

00:28:56.000 So the states in which he currently trails, the states in which he currently trails that are coming up over the next week and a half, he trails Ted Cruz in Texas.

00:29:04.000 But in the last available poll, he was trailing by five points to Cruz and that's a poll that's three weeks old before South Carolina and New Hampshire and Nevada.

00:29:13.000 So after Trump wins three consecutive victories, does Cruz maintain his five-point lead, his slim five-point lead in Texas, even with Rubio nipping at his heels?

00:29:21.000 I doubt it.

00:29:23.000 Trump trails Rubio by two points in the latest Colorado poll.

00:29:27.000 But that latest Colorado poll was taken way back in November, so Ben Carson was actually winning that poll.

00:29:32.000 So it was Carson 25 and Rubio 19 and Trump 17.

00:29:37.000 You think maybe now Trump is winning Colorado?

00:29:39.000 I would be hard-pressed to say no.

00:29:41.000 He's probably winning Colorado.

00:29:43.000 And he's supposedly losing in Arkansas, but that poll's really old.

00:29:46.000 And, again, he was running, like, one point behind, I think, Ted Cruz in Arkansas.

00:29:50.000 He was four points behind in Arkansas, and that was, again, as of early February, before South Carolina or New Hampshire.

00:29:56.000 And in Kentucky, supposedly, he's behind, but the last poll that was taken was last June.

00:30:00.000 So, that's completely irrelevant.

00:30:02.000 So, there's a good shot that Trump wins all 14 of the next states.

00:30:06.000 If that happens, I mean, come on, how long can you play out this string?

00:30:10.000 How long can you play out the string if you're Rubio and Cruz?

00:30:12.000 And this is the maddening part, the truly maddening part, is that Trump has some narrative points in his favor.

00:30:17.000 One is the sort of inevitability feeling, the idea that we have to take that gun off the mantle and it must be used or we haven't fulfilled the dramatic quotient here.

00:30:26.000 But Trump also fulfills the anti-Wall Street narrative.

00:30:29.000 He fulfills the anti-establishment narrative better than anybody.

00:30:31.000 Rubio's being endorsed today by Tim Pawlenty, the former senator from Minnesota, governor from Minnesota.

00:30:38.000 Like, who cares?

00:30:39.000 Mitt Romney was supposed to endorse Rubio.

00:30:42.000 That's not happening because Rubio specifically went to Romney and said, I don't want your endorsement right now, you're gonna hurt me.

00:30:46.000 And the more establishment endorsers I have, the worse it looks for me.

00:30:50.000 Cruz is actually anti-establishment, as I've been saying, but the problem is that Trump looks more anti-establishment than Cruz, even though the establishment would certainly prefer Trump to Cruz.

00:31:00.000 And Trump is an angry guy, and he's channeling that anger.

00:31:03.000 And finally, the real reason that Trump is the frontrunner right now is because of the ego.

00:31:07.000 Because again, it comes down to, if Cruz dropped out, Rubio would win.

00:31:11.000 If Rubio dropped out, Cruz would win.

00:31:13.000 Neither of them will drop out, and so Trump will win.

00:31:15.000 That's what it's coming down to right now.

00:31:17.000 Rubio spent the last few weeks attacking Cruz, so the chances that

00:31:20.000 Cruz would go along with any plan to drop out and take a second slot really low.

00:31:25.000 Cruz has been attacking Rubio.

00:31:27.000 More importantly, Rubio doesn't think he needs Cruz in order to win.

00:31:29.000 Rubio apparently has been making overtures to John Kasich.

00:31:33.000 Trying to gain his 7% of the vote, as though that's going to make any difference in any of these states.

00:31:37.000 So, if you're a betting person, you would have to put your money on Trump right now.

00:31:41.000 I've been saying that for the last couple of weeks, really ever since New Hampshire, that Trump is the frontrunner, and he's a very real frontrunner.

00:31:47.000 It's very frustrating that Republicans continue to pretend that he's not.

00:31:50.000 You have Cruz and Rubio going at each other.

00:31:52.000 It's a waste of time.

00:31:54.000 Meanwhile, on the other side of the aisle, Nevada caucuses happened for the Democrats, and Hillary won by 6 points. 1.00

00:32:00.000 But the Democrats have a problem too, and this is what's so frustrating.

00:32:03.000 The Democrats are actually vulnerable here.

00:32:05.000 They're actually vulnerable here.

00:32:07.000 Listen to the sort of ire from the Sanders camp over Hillary winning.

00:32:10.000 So Chris Matthews, for heaven's sake, he combed his hair with a shoe, as is his wont, and then he proceeded to say on MSNBC that the only reason that she won in Nevada is not because she's a better politician, but because of backroom politics.

00:32:25.000 And there you see Brian Williams, fresh off his latest tour in Vietnam,

00:32:29.000 Shooting down random Vietcong planes and fighting aliens in space and blowing up asteroids like Bruce Willis. 0.97

00:32:36.000 Here's Brian Williams on MSNBC along with Rachel and Chris Hayes.

00:32:40.000 No, it's Rachel Maddow.

00:32:40.000 Sorry, Rachel Maddow.

00:32:42.000 And here is Chris Matthews.

00:32:44.000 Chris, it was having watched hours of you that I heard Ralston say that the casino caucuses, the day shift workers who were allowed to come out and caucus, those were coming in in Clark County, the environs of Las Vegas, so heavily for Hillary Clinton.

00:33:01.000 And that, it turns out, turned it for her.

00:33:05.000 You know, I think it's an example that we have to pick up on ourselves, which is not all politics happens on television.

00:33:12.000 It's not all speeches.

00:33:14.000 It's not TV ads that are paid for.

00:33:15.000 It's not free media.

00:33:17.000 We give interviews to people.

00:33:18.000 It's not debates.

00:33:19.000 Things happen on the telephone.

00:33:22.000 They happen in back rooms.

00:33:23.000 They happen in labor halls where labor leaders still have strength.

00:33:26.000 They can be engaged in pulling operations and get people

00:33:29.000 Out of their homes on a beautiful Saturday, like out here in this gorgeous weather, to spend several hours inside, involved in this kind of wrestling match, to see how you actually vote.

00:33:39.000 Off the screen is what happened here.

00:33:42.000 Harry Reid is not Mr. Charisma, but he is one forceful figure.

00:33:46.000 Why do you think he's leader of the Senate Democrats?

00:33:48.000 Because he can work the phones, he can work relationships, and he has a great set of...

00:33:54.000 ...as to what's going to happen.

00:33:56.000 He saw Hillary Clinton in trouble out here. 1.00

00:33:58.000 And he put together the best organization, which he's done so many times before, to make things happen.

00:34:03.000 And that included the working people here.

00:34:05.000 If you come out here, you actually see people doing their jobs.

00:34:08.000 It's an amazing place because you see the crew PAs.

00:34:11.000 Dealing the cards.

00:34:12.000 You watch the pit bosses standing over them with those grim faces.

00:34:15.000 You watch the waitresses running around.

00:34:17.000 You watch the concierges when you ask them, can you get me tickets tonight?

00:34:21.000 So you see what their jobs are.

00:34:22.000 They don't make a lot of money, but they all showed up today.

00:34:25.000 Three hour breaks according to MGM Grand.

00:34:28.000 MGM that owns New York, New York, which is our host here.

00:34:30.000 So you really saw democracy in action, but it wasn't a TV event.

00:34:34.000 Okay, so we can stop at the bottom line is that Hillary got out her union buddies to push all of the croupiers and all of the pit bosses and all the people that are playing cards and all the people that are serving drinks and janitors. 1.00

00:34:51.000 We're good.

00:35:10.000 So, bottom line is Hillary twisted people's arms to get out there. 1.00

00:35:13.000 She works with the unions, they twisted arms, they got the people out for Hillary. 1.00

00:35:16.000 And if you looked at those numbers in that little video there, Hillary won less than 5,000 votes in Nevada. 0.98

00:35:20.000 Massive victory!

00:35:22.000 Massive victory!

00:35:23.000 She's very vulnerable, and Bernie Sanders is very angry about the fact that he lost, and he's saying, Hillary has no message, she's copying my message.

00:35:30.000 Here's Bernie Sanders going after Hillary Clinton.

00:35:33.000 So I think people are responding to our message.

00:35:36.000 of a rigged economy where ordinary Americans work longer hours for lower wages and almost all new income and wealth goes to the top 1%, a corrupt campaign finance system in which billionaires are buying elections.

00:35:50.000 I think our message is resonating and obviously the proof of that is that Hillary Clinton is more or less echoing much of what we are saying.

00:35:57.000 I think that indicates the success that we are having.

00:36:01.000 Okay, so he says that Hillary is echoing his message, and then Hillary is stumbling around. 0.77

00:36:06.000 She doesn't know what she even has to say.

00:36:08.000 So Hillary, she was asked why she's in the race, and she said she understands voters saying that she's in it for herself, is clip 15. 0.69

00:36:16.000 Here's Hillary Clinton talking about why she's in the race, and the answer is she has no idea, but she's just going to wear odd outfits until she's handed the nomination.

00:36:26.000 What is she wearing in this thing? 1.00

00:36:28.000 She looks like something out of Star Trek. 0.88

00:36:29.000 Here we go, Hillary Clinton, threat level red.

00:36:32.000 Hillary Clinton.

00:36:34.000 I understand that voters have questions.

00:36:36.000 I'm going to do my very best to answer those questions.

00:36:39.000 I think there's an underlying question that maybe is really in the back of people's minds, and that is, you know, is she in it for us or is she in it for herself?

00:36:49.000 Yes.

00:36:50.000 Yes.

00:37:10.000 You know, make my case.

00:37:11.000 I have to demonstrate what I've achieved.

00:37:14.000 I have to really make clear that, look, we want to make progress in our country.

00:37:20.000 She's struggling so hard here.

00:37:21.000 We want to make a real difference in people's lives.

00:37:24.000 OK, we can stop her there. 0.95

00:37:25.000 That's what I've always been about.

00:37:26.000 She has no idea what she's talking about.

00:37:28.000 She's struggling for an answer here.

00:37:30.000 And she's starting to look like Ian Holm in Alien.

00:37:34.000 Like, her head is going to come off and she's going to continue talking.

00:37:37.000 And maybe that's why she has that bizarre collar, is because she's actually hiding the robotics within.

00:37:41.000 So, the Democrats are really vulnerable, and meanwhile the Republicans are messing around with a guy who clearly is a demagogue, like Trump.

00:37:48.000 And it's very frustrating all the way through.

00:37:49.000 You know, the only good news in any of this is that the outrage is real.

00:37:56.000 The reaction is wrong.

00:37:58.000 The outrage is okay, but the backlash, the idea that we're gonna go with somebody like Trump, who's, he is reaching out for all the wrong answers, it's disturbing and it's problematic and it's a waste of an opportunity more than anything else, whether he wins or whether he loses.

00:38:13.000 Okay, time for some things that I like and then some things that I hate.

00:38:16.000 Okay, things that I like.

00:38:18.000 I started reading a book called The Rise and Fall of Crime in America by Barry Latzer.

00:38:22.000 As I mentioned last week, I finished the book Nudge by Cass Sunstein and Richard Thaler over the weekend.

00:38:28.000 And it's a somewhat creepy book.

00:38:30.000 The idea is that the government should basically set your defaults.

00:38:33.000 So if you have

00:38:35.000 We're good to go.

00:39:01.000 Should push you toward one option or another.

00:39:02.000 If they're real libertarians, they'd say the government should get out of this completely, and we should just encourage people to be aware of their own cognitive biases, what they call cognitive biases.

00:39:11.000 We all make sort of cognitive mistakes, and those mistakes actually have ramifications for the choices that we make in our lives.

00:39:18.000 And so if we're aware of them, it makes it more obvious for us not to do it.

00:39:23.000 And so that part of the book is valuable.

00:39:24.000 Their solutions, however, are problematic.

00:39:27.000 Okay, other things that I like.

00:39:28.000 The Rise and Fall of Crime in America, as I mentioned.

00:39:30.000 I've read about the first half of it and it is very good by Barry Latzer.

00:39:33.000 I recommend it highly.

00:39:34.000 It's a very informative book from Encounter about why it is that the crime rates dropped so dramatically.

00:39:43.000 Okay, a bit of musical things that I like.

00:39:52.000 So normally I do classical music, and I talk about all the classical music that I love.

00:39:57.000 The Brahms String Quintet, if you haven't heard it, is just a spectacular piece, piano quintet rather, is a spectacular piece of music.

00:40:05.000 But for a little bit of pop music, I get a lot of questions in the mailbag, and the mailbag's been chock full lately.

00:40:11.000 We're good to go!

00:40:41.000 And then, she didn't think that she was a good singer, and she doesn't have an amazing voice, but she's a terrific songwriter.

00:40:48.000 You know Carole King from songs like You've Got a Friend, which is a terrific song.

00:40:51.000 For those who haven't heard it, here's Carole King doing You've Got a Friend.

00:41:00.000 You can let Glenn close.

00:41:02.000 The 1980s here, actually.

00:41:08.000 Great song.

00:41:12.000 It's a great song.

00:41:36.000 We can cut it off there, but that's good stuff.

00:41:54.000 And she's done a bunch of albums.

00:41:57.000 Her early albums are really, really, really good.

00:42:00.000 Her early albums are great.

00:42:01.000 And her versions of the songs are better.

00:42:03.000 Like, James Taylor does a version of this that's not nearly as good.

00:42:06.000 She's really talented.

00:42:08.000 It makes me sad she's a Democrat, but so are most of these people.

00:42:12.000 And unlike Democrats, we don't bias how we view art in terms of the political views of the artist.

00:42:18.000 So that's really good stuff.

00:42:20.000 Okay, a couple of things that I hate.

00:42:22.000 Speaking of things that people in Hollywood who I really can't stand because of their politics, Luke Skywalker has now actually joined the dark side.

00:42:29.000 So Mark Hamill apparently raised $130 million for Hillary Clinton in January.

00:42:32.000 He's Luke Skywalker.

00:42:37.000 Luke, this is how you end up on an island by yourself, alone.

00:42:41.000 Right?

00:42:42.000 This is how it happens.

00:42:43.000 You end up there, staring at some chick who brought you a lightsaber.

00:42:47.000 Just staring at her for hours on end, for no apparent reason, as the camera does a 360 viewpoint.

00:42:54.000 He finally turned to the dark side.

00:42:55.000 This is how you elevate- He should have learned his lesson.

00:42:57.000 If you elevate a dark Sith Lord to one of the leading figures in the galaxy, this is what happens. 0.99

00:43:03.000 You end up on an island talking to moss and rocks. 0.85

00:43:05.000 So that sucked.

00:43:06.000 Okay. 0.98

00:43:07.000 Other thing that I hate.

00:43:08.000 People have gotten- This is kind of old, but I got a couple of emails on it, so I figured I'd mention it.

00:43:13.000 And I forget who wrote to me about this.

00:43:15.000 I apologize if I forget your name.

00:43:17.000 There's this thing called Kid President.

00:43:19.000 This kid now has books out, and he has videos out.

00:43:22.000 Hundreds of millions of views.

00:43:24.000 I think we all need a pep talk.

00:43:25.000 Oh, I hate this so much.

00:43:41.000 The world needs you.

00:43:42.000 Stop being boring.

00:43:44.000 Yeah, you.

00:43:45.000 Boring is easy.

00:43:46.000 Everybody can be boring.

00:43:47.000 But you're good at that.

00:43:49.000 Life is not a game, people.

00:43:51.000 Life isn't a cereal eater.

00:43:53.000 Well, it is a cereal.

00:43:55.000 And if life is a game, aren't we all on the same team?

00:43:59.000 I mean, really, right?

00:44:00.000 I'm on your team.

00:44:02.000 You're on my team.

00:44:04.000 This is life, people.

00:44:05.000 You got air coming through your nose.

00:44:06.000 You got heartbeat.

00:44:09.000 That means it's time to do something.

00:44:11.000 A poem.

00:44:12.000 Two roads diverged in the woods, and I took the road less traveled.

00:44:18.000 And it hurt, man.

00:44:20.000 Really bad.

00:44:21.000 Rocks, thorns, and glass.

00:44:23.000 My pants broke.

00:44:26.000 Not cool, Robert Frost.

00:44:28.000 But love didn't really work two paths.

00:44:31.000 I want to be in the one that leads to awesome.

00:44:35.000 Okay, we need to pause this.

00:44:36.000 I'm sorry, I can't take any more of this. 0.99

00:44:38.000 This is the stupidest crap anybody ever put on a film. 1.00

00:44:41.000 This is legitimately stupid crap. 1.00

00:44:44.000 So basically what he's saying, I don't even know what that means. 1.00

00:44:47.000 Don't take the road less traveled, take the road more traveled?

00:44:49.000 Is that the idea here?

00:44:51.000 And we're all on the same team.

00:44:52.000 Thank you for the list of platitudes, President Obama.

00:44:55.000 And it really is.

00:44:56.000 I mean, it's President Obama and it's Trump.

00:44:58.000 Our politics is all platitudes now.

00:45:01.000 The Obama thing has no reference to the race of the kid.

00:45:03.000 That doesn't matter.

00:45:04.000 It's the fact that our politics is all just a list of platitudes.

00:45:07.000 Everything this kid is saying could be coming out of the mouth of Hillary or Sanders or Trump 1.00

00:45:12.000 They all say the same stupid crap, and it's all crap like this, this faux-inspirational, Dr. Phil garbage that doesn't mean anything. 1.00

00:45:20.000 And then they put it coming out of the mouth of the kid, and you're just like, oh, that's so cute! 1.00

00:45:24.000 It's so cute that the little kid is saying things that we all should hear!

00:45:27.000 Just listen to the children!

00:45:29.000 You may have noticed, there's a theme to my programs.

00:45:31.000 Never listen to the kids!

00:45:33.000 Don't listen to children.

00:45:34.000 They're tiny people, okay?

00:45:36.000 But they're not tiny adults.

00:45:37.000 They're tiny people, meaning their brains are less developed.

00:45:40.000 Don't listen to them.

00:45:41.000 When they tell you to do things, it's because they're children, okay?

00:45:45.000 It's your job to be the adult.

00:45:47.000 I love my baby, but I don't take political advice from my baby.

00:45:50.000 She's the best, but she's not the best because she gives me life advice on my finances or tells me about Robert Frost poems.

00:45:57.000 Hey, don't listen to kids.

00:45:58.000 First of all, don't listen to kids whose scripts are being written by adults either. 0.99

00:46:01.000 That's particularly silly. 0.97

00:46:02.000 So, Kid President, just something else that I despise. 0.98

00:46:05.000 Stop using the children for all of this. 0.99

00:46:08.000 It's really dumb and it's really irritating. 0.98

00:46:10.000 Okay, that's it for today. 0.97

00:46:12.000 We'll be back tomorrow with more news in the death of the Republic, presumably.

00:46:16.000 Perhaps Donald Trump will have actually declared that the Cubs will never win a World Series because he's... That at least would be good.

00:46:23.000 I hate the Cubs.

00:46:23.000 But, you know, it's... It's a disaster.

00:46:26.000 Don't worry.

00:46:27.000 We'll get through it together.

00:46:28.000 We'll get through it together.

00:46:29.000 And the good news is this.

00:46:30.000 If the wrong people get elected, then you and I, everybody who's watching this, will probably all end up in the same prison together.

00:46:36.000 So then we'll get to hang out personally!

00:46:38.000 So if I didn't answer your emails, I'll see you there!

00:46:40.000 I'm Ben Shapiro, this is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - February 22, 2016

Ep. 76 - Why Donald Trump Will Win The Nomination

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