The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 84 - No, Trump Isn't Hitler

00:00:00.000 And here we are.

00:00:01.000 It is Monday.

00:00:02.000 There are big events over the weekend in the Republican election race.

00:00:05.000 We'll get to that.

00:00:06.000 We will also get to the Democratic debate between an old corrupt woman and a crazy old socialist loon bag who screams at the moon.

00:00:12.000 So much coming up here on a very full Ben Shapiro show.

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00:01:38.000 Okay, so over the weekend, a big election happened on Saturday, a couple of primaries, a couple of caucuses, and it basically split down the middle between Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.

00:01:56.000 Cruz actually ended up with more delegates than Trump did in these various states.

00:02:00.000 It was Kansas and Kentucky and Louisiana and Maine.

00:02:03.000 And then there was the Puerto Rico primary that happened on Sunday, and that one Marco Rubio won.

00:02:08.000 So Rubio will stay in the race in all likelihood until Florida, but Trump and Cruz are the ones who are sort of going head-to-head right now.

00:02:15.000 Trump obviously is the odds-on favorite still to be the nominee, and we'll get to that in just a second.

00:02:21.000 But Donald Trump did get outvoted by Ted Cruz, and there are a couple of states this week that could be dicey for Donald.

00:02:29.000 The latest polls from Michigan show that he's in sort of a competitive race with not only Ted Cruz, but also with Ohio Governor John Kasich.

00:02:37.000 And then there's also a Missouri and North Carolina election happening on Super Tuesday, so lots going on.

00:02:43.000 Basically, here's how it breaks down.

00:02:45.000 Donald Trump, in order to win the nomination, has to win 54% of the delegates for the rest of the time.

00:02:50.000 That's plausible.

00:02:51.000 Plausible.

00:02:52.000 And then you have Ted Cruz.

00:02:53.000 Ted Cruz has to win about 63%.

00:02:54.000 So, depending on what happens Super Tuesday, this race could shift very quickly.

00:02:59.000 The best option for those of us who really don't want to see Trump as the nominee would be for Rubio to win Florida, Kasich to win Ohio, and then both to drop out and endorse Cruz.

00:03:07.000 The reason that's better than Cruz dropping out and endorsing Rubio is that half of Cruz's votes would probably go back to Trump.

00:03:13.000 The same is not true for Rubio.

00:03:15.000 There are no Rubio voters who go to Trump.

00:03:16.000 There are no Kasich voters who go to Donald Trump in all likelihood.

00:03:19.000 So, that's how it would work out if people were smart.

00:03:22.000 They're not, so it probably won't work out that way.

00:03:24.000 Donald Trump is telling fibs, however.

00:03:26.000 He went on national TV after his big win.

00:03:29.000 It was actually not a good day for him on Saturday.

00:03:32.000 But he came out and he said that Marco Rubio, it was time for Marco Rubio to drop out.

00:03:37.000 I think Marco Rubio had a very, very bad night.

00:03:42.000 And personally, I'd call for him to drop out of the race.

00:03:45.000 I think it's time now that he drop out of the race.

00:03:47.000 I really think so.

00:03:51.000 I think it's probably time.

00:03:52.000 You know, I don't think tonight he can get up and rant and rave and, oh, he did great, he comes in third, he comes in fourth.

00:03:58.000 Every time he comes in third or fourth, he says, you got to be able to win.

00:04:02.000 And he has not been able to win, and I think it's time that he drops out.

00:04:05.000 I would love to take on Ted one-on-one.

00:04:08.000 That would be so much fun.

00:04:09.000 Because Ted can't win New York.

00:04:11.000 He can't win New Jersey.

00:04:12.000 He can't win Pennsylvania.

00:04:14.000 He can't win California.

00:04:16.000 I want Ted one-on-one, okay?

00:04:20.000 Okay, so that's a lie.

00:04:21.000 He doesn't want Cruz one-on-one.

00:04:22.000 He wants the field to continue to splinter so that he can run up the middle with 35 to 40 percent of the vote.

00:04:27.000 That's his ideal.

00:04:28.000 By the way, Cruz would win California, Cruz would lose in New York, Cruz would be competitive in Pennsylvania, and Cruz would lose in New Jersey.

00:04:35.000 That's how that would work out.

00:04:36.000 Because Cruz right now in the polls in California is actually beating Trump, and beating him rather solidly.

00:04:41.000 One of the lies about California Republicans is that we're a bunch of left-wingers.

00:04:44.000 The truth is, Orange County Republicans are very heavily conservative.

00:04:48.000 Republicans in the state of California look actually more like Texas Republicans than they do like New York Republicans.

00:04:53.000 That's just the fact of the matter.

00:04:54.000 So, Trump says he wants Rubio out.

00:04:57.000 Rubio, of course,

00:04:58.000 One, what we like to call now the Rubio Gold.

00:05:00.000 He came in fourth or third in all the other states.

00:05:02.000 So that's the Rubio Gold.

00:05:04.000 And Ted Cruz says he wants Trump head-to-head too.

00:05:07.000 So they want each other mano-a-mano.

00:05:08.000 The truth is, the reason Trump wants Rubio to drop out now is so that he's assured of winning Florida.

00:05:13.000 That's the real reason he wants Rubio out now.

00:05:16.000 Cruz wants Rubio out now because he's afraid that if Rubio wins Florida, he stays in for the duration and then it's not Cruz who's the favorite for the nomination anymore.

00:05:23.000 He and Rubio split the vote all the way down to Cleveland and suddenly it's Trump is the nominee.

00:05:28.000 So here's Ted Cruz saying, I want Rubio out too.

00:05:30.000 Let's do this thing head to head.

00:05:32.000 The only way to beat Donald Trump is for us to continue to unite.

00:05:36.000 If we stand together as one, you know, Donald has a ceiling, I think of about 25, 20 to 25%, or rather a floor, a floor of 20 to 25%, but he's got a hard ceiling, I believe of 35 to 40%.

00:05:50.000 Donald is benefited by multiple opponents in this race because if the opposition to him is divided, it lets him win states with a plurality of 35-37%.

00:06:01.000 If we get head-to-head, head-to-head I beat... Excuse me.

00:06:07.000 If we get head-to-head, head-to-head I beat Donald Trump.

00:06:11.000 And this entire process has been a winnowing process.

00:06:13.000 We started with 17 candidates, we're now down to 4.

00:06:17.000 But I think that winnowing will continue.

00:06:18.000 It has to be head-to-head.

00:06:20.000 If it's not head-to-head, then the other candidates are increasing the likelihood that Donald Trump becomes the nominee.

00:06:27.000 Okay, so, number one, couple of things to point out here.

00:06:30.000 Ted Cruz is sick.

00:06:30.000 Ted Cruz actually is physically ill.

00:06:33.000 Campaigning is a brutal process.

00:06:35.000 Ted Cruz canceled an event today in Mississippi.

00:06:37.000 We'll see how he is by Thursday.

00:06:38.000 That's when the next debate is.

00:06:40.000 These things do make a difference.

00:06:41.000 Obviously, Rubio in the last debate was clearly sick during the last debate, and he came out afterward.

00:06:45.000 He said he had a cold and the flu, and he was trying to fight his way through it.

00:06:49.000 Somehow, Donald Trump has the constitution of a horse, so he's been fine so far.

00:06:54.000 Maybe it's the syphilis?

00:06:56.000 I'm just joking.

00:06:57.000 He doesn't have syphilis, as far as we know.

00:06:59.000 In any case, Marco Rubio says that he won't drop out.

00:07:02.000 Everyone wants him to drop out, but he won't drop out.

00:07:03.000 By the way, there's a poll breaking just right now that, head-to-head, him versus Trump, they're tied, and in the early votes, Rubio's actually leading.

00:07:11.000 So, that makes things interesting.

00:07:13.000 If Rubio wins Florida and Kasich wins Ohio, this becomes a very interesting race very quickly.

00:07:17.000 Rubio said yesterday, no way in the world he drops out.

00:07:19.000 He's staying in.

00:07:20.000 Here's Marco Rubio.

00:07:22.000 Well, of course he did.

00:07:26.000 I mean, everybody that's running asks for somebody to drop out so they can do better.

00:07:29.000 Except for me, I've never asked for anybody to drop out.

00:07:31.000 But here's the bottom line.

00:07:34.000 There will be more delegates awarded in Florida than basically every state that voted tonight combined.

00:07:38.000 Because it's a winner-take-all state.

00:07:40.000 The states that voted tonight are important.

00:07:42.000 We're going to leave tonight with more delegates than we had yesterday.

00:07:45.000 I've explained repeatedly that this is a proportional process.

00:07:48.000 And every night that we have

00:07:51.000 Caucuses like there were tonight in three states.

00:07:53.000 We continue to pick up delegates.

00:07:55.000 Now there are clearly states in which some of my opponents do better than in other states because it fits a profile that they've targeted.

00:08:00.000 We understood that.

00:08:02.000 We've continued to play the delegate math in this campaign because we understand that this is going to be a very different kind of primary where the delegates are going to count.

00:08:10.000 That's why I'm here tonight in Puerto Rico.

00:08:12.000 That's why we're going to continue to campaign in Florida.

00:08:14.000 But we're also going to go to other states.

00:08:15.000 We want to continue to increase our delegate total

00:08:18.000 And the map only gets friendlier for us after tonight, and after Super Tuesday.

00:08:22.000 We knew this would be the roughest period in the campaign, given the makeup of the electoral map.

00:08:26.000 Okay, so here's the deal.

00:08:27.000 The new poll shows, Monmouth poll, Trump 38, Rubio 30, Cruz 17.

00:08:33.000 Right, and it's important to note, in Virginia, Louisiana, Kentucky, and Kansas, Trump's lead was overstated by double digits.

00:08:40.000 So it's really possible we're looking at a dead heat.

00:08:42.000 Apparently, according to Mark Caputo's reporter, he says 600,000 Florida Republicans have already voted early, and Rubio leads Trump 5-1 among those voters.

00:08:51.000 So that means he's up by 150,000 votes over Trump, if that math is correct.

00:08:56.000 This is still a wide open race.

00:08:58.000 That's actually an amazing thing.

00:08:59.000 Rubio apparently leads Trump 48 to 23 among the nearly 1 in 5 voters who have already cast their ballots in the early vote state.

00:09:06.000 So that's a big deal because Trump has been winning early voting but losing late breaking votes.

00:09:10.000 You could see the same thing happen here.

00:09:12.000 So this race begins to change very dramatically.

00:09:15.000 Rubio right now is just trying to hold on until Florida.

00:09:17.000 He's been bashed about by the media.

00:09:19.000 And you'll see the difference between Rubio and Trump.

00:09:21.000 The reason that Rubio hasn't done as well as Trump in this race will show the juxtaposition.

00:09:25.000 It's because look how Rubio deals with accusations that he's being too vulgar, that he's being too vile with Donald Trump.

00:09:31.000 Here's Dana Bash on CNN going after Marco Rubio for being mean to poor little old Donald Trump, that bloated fat sack of... Anyway, here's Dana Bash.

00:09:40.000 You're the proud father of four.

00:09:42.000 I'm the mother of a four-year-old son.

00:09:45.000 And I'm having trouble letting him watch the news because things have gotten so vulgar and so over the top that I don't want him to think that it's okay to act like that.

00:09:56.000 And I'm not alone.

00:09:57.000 I know a lot of people have said that.

00:09:58.000 How do you feel as a father and a presidential candidate about how low things have gone?

00:10:03.000 Well, I mean, no, but I'll tell you this is related to the real question.

00:10:07.000 I am glad you asked it.

00:10:09.000 My kids were on with me on the campaign trail a lot, from New Hampshire, Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina.

00:10:14.000 Every day when I woke up, I was glad they were there, not just because they were my kids, but because I looked at them and it reminded me, this is what it's about.

00:10:20.000 And yes, I think it is one of the things you asked me, I don't want us to have a president that we constantly have to be explaining to our kids, look, I know that's what the president did, but you shouldn't do that.

00:10:29.000 I don't want that.

00:10:31.000 Okay, so there he is being apologetic to Dana Bash about the language that he's using, and that's weak tea.

00:10:36.000 That's real weak tea.

00:10:37.000 What he should say is, first of all, four-year-olds have no vote, so it doesn't matter.

00:10:41.000 You know, I have a two-year-old, and she was watching, and she didn't understand what was going on.

00:10:45.000 And by the way, anybody who has a two-year-old who has had a young kid,

00:10:48.000 Your young kid at some point is going to repeat a dirty word, okay?

00:10:51.000 They're just going to do it, and you know what happens?

00:10:54.000 Not much, just don't reinforce it.

00:10:56.000 So he starts getting apologetic.

00:10:58.000 The real answer here is Donald Trump dragged us all down into the mud, and you guys covered him.

00:11:02.000 You, the media, covered him with hundreds of hours of tape.

00:11:05.000 You gave him coverage.

00:11:06.000 You celebrated him for being brash and bold, and when any of us respond, you come down on us for being uncivil.

00:11:11.000 That's nonsense.

00:11:12.000 If the only way to beat Trump is the game you set up, which is to punch him as hard as we can, then that's what we'll have to do, I guess.

00:11:18.000 I'd prefer to run a civil race.

00:11:19.000 You guys didn't want us to run a civil race, he doesn't want a civil race, so we're not gonna run a civil race.

00:11:23.000 We're gonna take him down now he has to be taken down.

00:11:25.000 Right, that's what he should say.

00:11:27.000 Compare that to how Trump is when he's asked about why he keeps talking about the size of his penis.

00:11:32.000 And what about the business of, you know, the other night at the Fox News debate, you seemed to talk about, you know, the size of your manhood, if I may put it that way, sir.

00:12:00.000 Sir, I... Sir, some of the... You've also used... Let me just ask this because... I mean, this is the problem with reporters.

00:12:08.000 Look, look.

00:12:09.000 Just so you understand, not me.

00:12:11.000 Somebody else, Marco, brought it up.

00:12:14.000 And do you notice... Okay, now look.

00:12:16.000 You look at what happens to Marco.

00:12:18.000 Isn't that not presidential, sir?

00:12:19.000 No, no, no.

00:12:20.000 I didn't bring it up.

00:12:21.000 Excuse me.

00:12:22.000 Somebody else said, Donald Trump has small hands.

00:12:25.000 So I said, small hands?

00:12:26.000 These guys know.

00:12:27.000 I hit a ball 280 yards.

00:12:28.000 Stand up, my club champion.

00:12:30.000 Stand up.

00:12:31.000 Do I hit the ball good?

00:12:33.000 Do I hit it long?

00:12:35.000 Is Trump strong?

00:12:36.000 Huh?

00:12:37.000 So look, so I just simply held up the hand.

00:12:40.000 These are very strong hands and they're fairly large actually.

00:12:44.000 But you know what?

00:12:45.000 It was interesting because, and you shouldn't even be this up to be honest with you, but it was very interesting.

00:12:52.000 Because the day after he said that, I'm shaking hands with people, and everybody's saying, wow, you have strong hands, you have very big hands.

00:13:00.000 The guy, what happened is Marco just made it up out of nowhere, because he's a politician, and politicians lie, and they say bad things, and if you don't call them out for it, you don't.

00:13:11.000 Now, I didn't bring it up, he brought it up.

00:13:13.000 Okay, okay, okay, okay, hold on a second.

00:13:15.000 This guy says the F word on the campaign trail, he called Ted Cruz a, right, word for female genitalia.

00:13:21.000 And now he's playing the wronged innocent.

00:13:23.000 All of this is silly, right?

00:13:24.000 All of this is ridiculous.

00:13:25.000 And when you hear Donald Trump do this routine, it's really insulting.

00:13:29.000 You know, I hit this ball 285 yards.

00:13:31.000 You ever seen me?

00:13:32.000 I drive like Tiger Woods.

00:13:34.000 Par fives, I knock it right on the green, two feet from the pin.

00:13:37.000 I'm the greatest golf player you've ever... By the way, he cheats at golf.

00:13:40.000 This is true.

00:13:41.000 He does cheat at golf.

00:13:42.000 But Donald Trump, when he says nobody's ever talked about the size of his hands, we've told this story multiple times on The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:13:48.000 For 30 years they've been making fun of the size of his hands.

00:13:51.000 It started in Spy Magazine in 1988 and he's been sending pictures of his own hands to the editor of Spy Magazine ever since, circled in gold sharpie.

00:14:00.000 And written on it, normal-sized hands, signed Donald Trump.

00:14:03.000 So yeah, this is brand new.

00:14:04.000 But the point is that Trump never apologizes.

00:14:07.000 He never backs down.

00:14:08.000 And because of that, he appears to be stronger than he is.

00:14:10.000 As strong as a man who has big, bare fists that can knock a golf ball 285 yards.

00:14:17.000 What a tough guy, rough guy he is.

00:14:19.000 Okay, so Donald Trump continues to maintain a lead, but it's a little bit more fragile than it has been, and there is indeed hope that he could get beaten in these primaries.

00:14:27.000 If he loses Florida and he loses Ohio, it's going to be incredibly difficult for him to be in a position to win the nomination outright.

00:14:35.000 He's probably not going to get the 1237 delegates that he needs in order to win the nomination outright if he loses Florida and Ohio, and that's why he's trying to push Marco Rubio out of the race.

00:14:45.000 So, you know, the race is certainly heating up.

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00:15:44.000 Okay, so, the other rap on Donald Trump has been, not that he's starting to fade, but that he's actually Hitler.

00:15:50.000 So this is the new one.

00:15:51.000 It's actually a new old one.

00:15:52.000 We talked about this a couple of months ago.

00:15:54.000 The left was saying that Reagan is like Hitler.

00:15:56.000 I've never said Reagan is like Hitler.

00:15:58.000 He's more like Mussolini.

00:15:59.000 Okay?

00:15:59.000 He's not even like Mussolini.

00:16:00.000 Mussolini was an intelligent guy.

00:16:02.000 Trump is like Hitler, rather.

00:16:04.000 He's not Mussolini.

00:16:06.000 He's not Hitler.

00:16:07.000 He's not an intelligent person.

00:16:08.000 Donald Trump has an IQ of about 105, maybe.

00:16:11.000 And he was born into a really rich family.

00:16:13.000 And the way I can tell his IQ is not only by the fact he speaks at grade level, but also the fact that Donald Trump spells at grade level.

00:16:20.000 If you read his Twitter feed, I think yesterday he misspelled the word paid.

00:16:23.000 P-A-Y-E-D.

00:16:25.000 Now look, intelligence does not confer wisdom.

00:16:28.000 It doesn't confer moral value.

00:16:29.000 I know a lot of smart people who are terrible human beings and a lot of dumb people who are really good human beings.

00:16:34.000 But Donald Trump is both a dumb person and also not a particularly good human being.

00:16:38.000 So what you're seeing now is people are starting to say, well, Donald Trump is a Hitler figure.

00:16:42.000 You know, he's authoritarian in his approach.

00:16:44.000 He's tyrannical in his approach.

00:16:46.000 He's constantly doing the strongman stuff.

00:16:48.000 You know, whether it's the I hit a ball 285 yards routine or the take these protesters and beat them up, throw them out, beat them up, you know, treat the press like garbage, tell women they ought to be treated like bleep.

00:16:59.000 So what's been happening?

00:17:01.000 is that there's been a large contingent, a large contingent of white supremacists who have found a love for Donald Trump.

00:17:08.000 They call themselves the alternative right.

00:17:10.000 Now the alt-right, I think part of it started as an anti-political correctness movement.

00:17:14.000 Just people who hate political correctness and to smack political correctness in the face, they just started using all this racist nonsense terminology because they wanted to show that they don't care, they're not going to be cowed into submission.

00:17:25.000 I think that's childish.

00:17:26.000 I don't think you have to use racist terminology in order to show you won't be counted into submission.

00:17:30.000 I've been fighting political correctness my entire career.

00:17:33.000 It's what I do on college campuses all the time.

00:17:35.000 That doesn't mean you use the N-word because the N-word is inherently bad.

00:17:38.000 It's an inherently bad word.

00:17:39.000 People shouldn't be using it.

00:17:41.000 It's a terrible word.

00:17:41.000 And you're not conquering the world just by using the N-word.

00:17:44.000 You're just being a jerk.

00:17:45.000 There's a difference between being an offensive jerk and being politically incorrect.

00:17:49.000 Those are not exactly the same thing.

00:17:51.000 Politically incorrect is perhaps American racism, institutional racism, does not have anything to do and does not, not only does not exist, but does not have anything to do with elevated rates of single motherhood in the black community.

00:18:03.000 Right?

00:18:04.000 That's politically incorrect.

00:18:05.000 Maybe the reason there are more black people in prison is because there are more black people committing crimes on a per capita basis.

00:18:11.000 That's politically incorrect.

00:18:12.000 Politically, that's politically incorrect.

00:18:15.000 Being an offensive jerk would be those darn n-words are committing crimes, right?

00:18:19.000 That's that's not just politically incorrect, that's also offensive and nasty and brutish.

00:18:23.000 A lot of the people on the alt-right have crossed that line and this is their thing.

00:18:26.000 You go on to their pages, they're full of anti-semitic tweets and anti-black tweets and

00:18:31.000 Truly racist stuff.

00:18:32.000 Like if you saw it on a Stormfront website, it would fit.

00:18:35.000 Trump has been sort of reaching out to those people, and it's amazing.

00:18:39.000 I mean, you can hear how Trump condemns people he doesn't like.

00:18:42.000 You see it every day.

00:18:42.000 He condemns reporters, and he condemns Lyin' Ted Cruz, and Little Marco, and...

00:18:47.000 And all these various people he dislikes.

00:18:51.000 People, Megyn Kelly, bleeding from her wherever.

00:18:53.000 When it comes to white supremacists, suddenly the language seems to go a little bit soft.

00:18:56.000 And that's not because Donald Trump is a white supremacist, although he certainly has a few racist tendencies.

00:19:04.000 I'm not just talking about the KKK thing last week, I'm talking about the fact that last week he said a judge had to be biased against him because the judge was Mexican.

00:19:11.000 In a case that had nothing to do with immigration, by the way.

00:19:14.000 So, in any case, Donald Trump, he was asked about the support of white supremacists for him, and here's what he had to say.

00:19:22.000 Let me ask you this question.

00:19:23.000 What about the— David Duke is saying to his supporters and followers, vote for Donald Trump.

00:19:27.000 White supremacists are saying, vote— Do you want those votes?

00:19:30.000 No, I don't want them, and I don't want him to say it.

00:19:32.000 I can't help if he says it.

00:19:33.000 If he says it, but I don't want it, and I don't— If he says it— John, if he says it, he says it, okay?

00:19:40.000 Do I want it?

00:19:41.000 No.

00:19:42.000 And you don't want the supporters?

00:19:43.000 No, I don't want anything.

00:19:43.000 What do you think of white supremacists, by the way?

00:19:46.000 I don't like any group of hate.

00:19:49.000 Hate groups are not for me.

00:19:51.000 But I've said this before.

00:19:53.000 The press hates me to say it.

00:19:55.000 They just don't want to pick it up.

00:19:57.000 Okay, this is weak tea.

00:19:58.000 This is weak tea.

00:19:59.000 I'm sorry, it just is.

00:20:02.000 But if he says it, he says it, and there's nothing I can do.

00:20:05.000 Where's the hardcore condemnation?

00:20:07.000 He says he doesn't want to be associated with hate groups.

00:20:10.000 Hate groups are not for me.

00:20:12.000 Hate groups are not for me.

00:20:13.000 How about hate groups are evil?

00:20:15.000 How about the KKK is an evil organization that promotes evil things and did evil things to people and still does evil things to people?

00:20:21.000 How about that?

00:20:22.000 And just so you know, okay, David Duke, it was funny, there are a bunch of people who are saying David Duke never endorsed Donald Trump.

00:20:27.000 Okay, so last week, last Friday, I wrote a column about what we discussed last Thursday, which was, would I ever vote for Donald Trump?

00:20:34.000 And I said last Thursday, no.

00:20:36.000 I would never vote for Donald Trump.

00:20:37.000 And I'm getting a lot of mail about it and a lot of tweets, well, aren't you handing the election to Hillary?

00:20:42.000 No, I'm not handing the election to Hillary, okay?

00:20:44.000 I'd vote for anyone else, but I'm not going to vote for Donald Trump against Hillary Clinton.

00:20:48.000 And the reason is because I'm not going to see somebody like Donald Trump pervert conservatism and the Republican Party and tear down everything I have spent my entire life building.

00:20:57.000 I've helped build a perception of conservatism that is real, that it's non-racist, that it's not xenophobic, that it's not sexist, that it's not bigoted, that it's a good, solid, philosophical foundation for a decent society.

00:21:11.000 And then Donald Trump comes along and he blows it all out of the water with one candidacy.

00:21:14.000 I'm not going to partake in that.

00:21:15.000 First of all, he's going to lose.

00:21:17.000 He's going to lose.

00:21:18.000 He's going to get blown out by Hillary.

00:21:19.000 Blown out.

00:21:20.000 It's not going to be close.

00:21:21.000 If he's the nominee, she will blow him out.

00:21:23.000 She will beat him by 10 points at the very least.

00:21:25.000 All of his vulnerabilities play directly to her.

00:21:29.000 So Hillary is the least popular candidate in American history, except for Donald Trump.

00:21:33.000 Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate in American history, but Donald Trump is also corrupt, so she can hit him with that.

00:21:40.000 Hillary Clinton has flipped on every position.

00:21:42.000 So has Donald Trump.

00:21:43.000 Hillary Clinton's an elitist.

00:21:45.000 So is Donald Trump.

00:21:47.000 Nothing that he can say about her, she can't reverse back on him.

00:21:51.000 In any case, you know, there are all these white supremacists, these alt-right people who have come out in favor of Donald Trump.

00:21:57.000 And there he says, you know, the hate groups are not for me.

00:21:59.000 People are saying, well, no, it's not his fault if the hate groups back him.

00:22:02.000 People were even saying David Duke at the KKK didn't even support Trump.

00:22:05.000 So last week,

00:22:06.000 I wrote this piece about why I'm not voting for Trump, because he destroys conservatism, and I'm not going to partake in that.

00:22:13.000 I'd rather lose this election and win in four years with somebody truly conservative than win with Donald Trump and watch as he destroys conservatism, and I'll tell you another reason for that in a second.

00:22:23.000 The idea that David Duke has not endorsed Donald Trump, by the way, is ridiculous.

00:22:26.000 Of course he has.

00:22:27.000 The minute I wrote that column, I get these tweets from David Duke.

00:22:31.000 This one came from David Duke last Friday.

00:22:33.000 This little chosen one is really on the warpath against Trump.

00:22:36.000 Mr. Trump, all caps, NEVER FORGET.

00:22:39.000 Quote, Masters of Deception.

00:22:42.000 And I'm a Master of Deception because I'm a JEW!

00:22:46.000 And also, never forget.

00:22:48.000 See, we used to use never forget in a different context, but he uses it in the context of Mr. Trump, never forget who offended you.

00:22:54.000 Here's another one from David Duke.

00:22:55.000 This is what they allow to represent white America on a national mainstream level.

00:23:00.000 Hashtag give me special privileges.

00:23:02.000 And then it's a picture of me with an Israeli flag and it says Jewish supremacist.

00:23:07.000 Jewish supremacist.

00:23:08.000 I don't know what the hat's supposed to be.

00:23:10.000 It's like an Amish hat.

00:23:11.000 It's not even like a Jewish black hat.

00:23:12.000 I don't even know what this is supposed to be.

00:23:13.000 And then it says, stupid goy, think, think, I'm white.

00:23:16.000 Okay, I don't know why it says think twice, except that David Duke is a low IQ.

00:23:22.000 He's a, he's a POS, okay?

00:23:23.000 David Duke's a, but he's a deeply stupid person.

00:23:27.000 It's always funny to me, by the way, when white supremacists with low IQ talk about their racial and genetic superiority.

00:23:33.000 Like, David Duke

00:23:35.000 Okay, the guy has the IQ of a muffin, and he's going around talking about his genetic and racial superiority.

00:23:41.000 Yeah, right.

00:23:41.000 Okay, so then he says, Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Goldman Sachs, and the Zionist oligarchs.

00:23:47.000 Right, Ted Cruz is a Zionist oligarch, who's in hock to the evil people at Goldman Sachs.

00:23:52.000 Okay, so David Duke, no, no, no, he's not a Trump supporter at all.

00:23:54.000 He just did that directly in support of Donald Trump when I tweeted at him.

00:23:59.000 Okay, so there are certain people who have taken all of this and they have used it and they've said, okay, well, Donald Trump is Hitler.

00:24:07.000 Donald Trump isn't Hitler.

00:24:08.000 I'll tell you who Donald Trump is in a minute.

00:24:09.000 But Donald Trump is not Hitler.

00:24:10.000 Glenn Beck, for example, he said on TV on Sunday on ABC News that Trump is a Hitlerian figure.

00:24:16.000 Here we go.

00:24:18.000 The people are speaking clearly and there's two ways to go.

00:24:21.000 Anger and nationalism, which has been done before in history.

00:24:26.000 Uh, and you can go for nationalism, you can go for anger.

00:24:30.000 Trump is Adolf Hitler?

00:24:31.000 Uh, if you look at what's happening in, um, with Donald Trump and his playing to the lowest common denominator and to the anger in us, you know, Adolf Hitler, we all look at Adolf Hitler in 1940.

00:24:45.000 We should look at Adolf Hitler in 1929.

00:24:48.000 He was a kind of a funny kind of character that said the things that people were thinking.

00:24:53.000 Where Donald Trump takes it, I have absolutely no idea.

00:24:57.000 But Donald Trump is a dangerous man with the things that he has been saying.

00:25:01.000 Now, the GOP is playing unbelievable games right now, trying to make sure they get their way.

00:25:08.000 And they're trying to go for a poker convention.

00:25:09.000 Okay, let me stop it there.

00:25:10.000 That's the relevant portion.

00:25:11.000 Back comparing him to Hitler.

00:25:13.000 He's not Hitler.

00:25:14.000 So he does have a solid base of support in communities that hate Jews, for example.

00:25:18.000 So, a poll in South Carolina showed that

00:25:22.000 Of all the people who have white supremacist support, 16% of Trump supporters identified as people who believe that whites are superior in South Carolina.

00:25:31.000 That's significantly more than any other candidate in the Republican field.

00:25:36.000 So that's problematic.

00:25:37.000 It's problematic.

00:25:38.000 David Duke is problematic.

00:25:39.000 More Muslims, by the way, would vote for Donald Trump than any other Republican candidate.

00:25:44.000 Remember when we were told that Donald Trump was Islamophobic because he was trying to ban Muslim refugees and stop Muslim immigration to the country?

00:25:51.000 Why, you may ask yourself, would Donald Trump be drawing a heavy support from the Muslim community, according to the Council on American-Islamic Relations, more than any other Republican?

00:26:02.000 One of the answers is because Donald Trump is perceived as anti-Israel.

00:26:04.000 That's one of the reasons why he's perceived that.

00:26:06.000 Okay, so Donald Trump, is he Hitler?

00:26:08.000 No, he's not Hitler.

00:26:09.000 Okay, who Donald Trump actually is, who Donald Trump actually is, he's the love child of Ross Perot and Pat Buchanan.

00:26:15.000 So if you go back to 1992, we go back to 1992 and you see if you can remember that.

00:26:18.000 I was only eight years old in 1992.

00:26:21.000 So for me, this took a little bit of research, but I remember it vaguely.

00:26:25.000 Pat Buchanan ran against Donald Trump, ran against

00:26:30.000 I'm sorry, George H.W.

00:26:31.000 Bush in the primaries.

00:26:33.000 And Pat Buchanan ran on the basis of a couple of different policy prescriptions.

00:26:37.000 So he campaigned as a largely culturally conservative figure, unlike Trump, who stays away from cultural conservatism.

00:26:44.000 But Pat Buchanan talked incessantly about limiting immigration.

00:26:47.000 He talked about multiculturalism being an evil.

00:26:50.000 I agree with that.

00:26:51.000 And then he catered to exactly the same folks that Donald Trump is catering to.

00:26:55.000 So for example,

00:26:56.000 The New York Times, this is what they reported in 1992.

00:26:59.000 Critics and organizations who follow far-right groups say Mr. Buchanan, who has stolen the conservative thunder from the former Klansman David Duke, this is 1992, has done nothing to repudiate his most extreme admirers or to distance himself from Mr. Duke.

00:27:13.000 Here's what Buchanan said about Duke.

00:27:19.000 Does this sound familiar at all?

00:27:21.000 Buchanan won about 2 million votes in the primaries that year.

00:27:24.000 Then he dropped out, and Ross Perot, who originally was actually leading a bunch of primaries, he had dropped out.

00:27:29.000 He came back into the race because he felt that H.W.

00:27:32.000 was too weak, and he campaigned on the back of, free trade is bad, we have to stop the sucking sound to Mexico, right?

00:27:37.000 They're taking all of our jobs, the sucking sound to Mexico.

00:27:40.000 We have to stop NAFTA.

00:27:41.000 We have to stop all of these trade agreements.

00:27:44.000 He pushed progressive taxation.

00:27:45.000 He said he would self-fund his campaign, if you remember.

00:27:47.000 He said he wasn't going to take any money from lobbyists or donors.

00:27:50.000 Any donation bigger than $5, he refused to take.

00:27:56.000 So Ross Perot and Pat Buchanan, put them together and you get Donald Trump.

00:27:59.000 That's what you get.

00:28:00.000 And in 1992, they would have actually beaten George H.W.

00:28:04.000 Bush in the primaries, in all likelihood, if they were one guy.

00:28:07.000 Now they are one guy.

00:28:08.000 Now they are one guy.

00:28:10.000 A nationalist first.

00:28:12.000 No conservative philosophy to them.

00:28:15.000 Shifting.

00:28:15.000 This is who Trump is.

00:28:16.000 He's now shifting his positions here and there.

00:28:19.000 Hard on immigration.

00:28:21.000 Not good on free trade.

00:28:23.000 That's who Trump is.

00:28:23.000 And I want to make a side point here about some of the people he's appealing to who are not the white supremacists.

00:28:29.000 That's a whole different group.

00:28:30.000 I'm talking now to all the people who are the blue collar folks that Trump is supposedly bringing into the party.

00:28:35.000 The way he's bringing them into the party is by saying that free trade is bad.

00:28:39.000 That free trade is scary.

00:28:41.000 That free trade made you lose your job.

00:28:43.000 And this is what Trump is saying.

00:28:45.000 And there are a lot of people, and Clavin has said this before, he says we have to understand the concerns of people who are like that, who have lost their jobs.

00:28:51.000 We have to hear what they're saying.

00:28:54.000 And I keep saying to Drew, and I say it between the shows, I'll say to Drew, what do you expect people to do about that?

00:29:00.000 There is no magic government fix for that other than corporate welfare, right?

00:29:04.000 That's what it is.

00:29:06.000 There is no difference to me, there really is no difference between the guy in the inner city who can't get a job, and so he's on welfare,

00:29:13.000 And he's saying that the country owes him something, and the guy who's in the Rust Belt, who lost his job because his company went under, and who now suggests that we all have to pay higher prices at the market so that we can pay him a salary to do his old job.

00:29:27.000 It's all welfare.

00:29:28.000 It's just a form of indirect welfare versus direct welfare.

00:29:31.000 And I'm not of the opinion that because you lost your job, you get to steal money from other people.

00:29:36.000 I'm not of this opinion.

00:29:37.000 And that's what tariffs are.

00:29:38.000 Tariffs are stealing money from other people.

00:29:40.000 Not from China.

00:29:40.000 Not from Mexico.

00:29:41.000 You're stealing money from me as a consumer.

00:29:43.000 Because I now have to pay more at the pump.

00:29:45.000 I have to pay more wherever I'm going for the product than I would have had to otherwise in order to sponsor you.

00:29:51.000 And that's not something of which I approve.

00:29:53.000 The government forcing me to pay more to pay for you

00:29:56.000 I don't care if you want to call it tariffs or if you want to call it attacks.

00:29:59.000 It is the same thing.

00:30:00.000 It is the same thing.

00:30:01.000 Okay, so with that point out of the way, now I want to talk about what actually scares me about Trump.

00:30:06.000 Trump is not Hitler.

00:30:07.000 Trump is just a nationalist with no real coherent philosophy who is tough on trade and tough on immigration.

00:30:14.000 He's Ross Perot and Pat Buchanan, a self-funded, out-of-the-box candidate, all rolled into one.

00:30:19.000 By the way, if you don't believe me, Donald Trump and Pat Buchanan and Ross Perot, all of them were members of the Reform Party in 1999.

00:30:27.000 In fact, you can go back to 1999, and we have clip 22.

00:30:30.000 This is an old SNL skit.

00:30:33.000 Okay, they let off SNL in 1999 with this skit.

00:30:37.000 I think it's Sherry O'Cherry playing the... O'Terry, Sherry O'Terry, playing Ross Perot.

00:30:44.000 You'll see, I mean, this was a thing back in 1999.

00:30:46.000 Now the foreign party needs a new crazy leader.

00:30:55.000 Well, maybe it'll be Pat Buchanan, or maybe Donald Trump, but it sure as hell won't be me!

00:31:02.000 Apparently, fellas, I wasn't insane enough for the American people.

00:31:08.000 Now, what we need is a real nutbag!

00:31:10.000 I couldn't agree more!

00:31:11.000 The American people!

00:31:12.000 Pat, let me finish!

00:31:14.000 Would you let me finish, Pat?

00:31:17.000 Now, I'm gonna ask you gentlemen a few questions.

00:31:21.000 Go ahead.

00:31:21.000 Shoot.

00:31:23.000 Okay, Pat Yeagerbeaver, I'm gonna start with you.

00:31:26.000 Where do you stand on illegal aliens, Pat?

00:31:29.000 Ross, we have a serious illegal alien problem in this country.

00:31:32.000 Foreigners in general are repulsive to me.

00:31:35.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:31:38.000 Hold the boat.

00:31:40.000 The Donald employs an army of illegal aliens in his many fine Atlantic City hotels and casinos.

00:31:47.000 Sure they steal and talk funny, but if they're fresh off the burrito boat, they'll work for 15 cents a week!

00:31:54.000 I've seen it myself!

00:32:02.000 With Ross Perot and Donald Trump and Pat Buchanan.

00:32:04.000 So exactly what I was, I wrote this this morning, then I found this skit and it was, it was, it reminded me.

00:32:09.000 I mean, is it, that's, that's, that's amazing, right?

00:32:11.000 I mean, these were the same guy and they've taken over the Republican Party.

00:32:15.000 So does that scare me?

00:32:16.000 That doesn't scare me.

00:32:17.000 What scares, the reason that I have a problem with Trump beyond these politics, and I won't vote for anyone with the politics of Pat Buchanan.

00:32:24.000 I wouldn't have voted for Pat Buchanan in 1992.

00:32:28.000 But the reason, and by the way, Pappy Cannon was at least significantly more to the right than Trump is on a lot of issues, economic issues at home particularly.

00:32:35.000 But in any case, there are two things about Trump that I do find problematic, and it's not that he's Hitler.

00:32:39.000 One of the things that happened over the weekend was at one of the Trump rallies, Trump asked a bunch of people to raise their hands, right?

00:32:48.000 And then he had them give a vow, right?

00:32:51.000 He had them vow to vote for him.

00:32:54.000 And this is a video of him doing this.

00:32:57.000 I do solemnly swear that I, no matter how I feel, no matter what the conditions, if there's hurricanes or whatever, that's good enough, will vote on or before the 12th for Donald J. Trump for president!

00:33:26.000 Okay, so, the reason that this went crazy is because, look at that picture, right?

00:33:29.000 He's got his arm outstretched at like a 45 degree angle, and all of his followers have their arms outstretched at a 45 degree angle.

00:33:36.000 And so you have the entire left saying, you know, seek Heil.

00:33:39.000 This is a Heil Hitler routine.

00:33:40.000 Okay, first of all,

00:33:41.000 Barack Obama did a lot of the same sort of stuff back in 2008.

00:33:45.000 Trump is doing it routinely on the campaign stump now.

00:33:48.000 But it is the idolatrous worship for Trump that I find problematic.

00:33:52.000 Do not worship politicians.

00:33:53.000 I've said before, there are two problems with Trump.

00:33:55.000 One is Trump himself, and one is his followers.

00:33:57.000 The people who are backing him...

00:33:59.000 Not the people who actually just agree with his policies.

00:34:01.000 The people who are worshipping him.

00:34:03.000 He's gonna do whatever we want him to do.

00:34:05.000 He's the big man who will save us.

00:34:07.000 I don't care what the presidency is.

00:34:09.000 I don't care what the constitution is.

00:34:10.000 He's gonna save us.

00:34:11.000 That is a problem for the country.

00:34:13.000 So that's problem number one.

00:34:15.000 Problem number two is a problem with Trump himself.

00:34:18.000 And this comes out in this SNL ad.

00:34:20.000 Saturday Night Live did an ad mocking Trump supporters and here's what it looked like.

00:34:23.000 The media's been saying some pretty negative things about Donald Trump.

00:34:28.000 But what are real Americans saying?

00:34:31.000 The guy's a winner.

00:34:33.000 He's authentic.

00:34:35.000 He's the only one who's actually created jobs.

00:34:39.000 He literally wrote the book on negotiating.

00:34:42.000 Trump's an outsider.

00:34:44.000 Washington needs that.

00:34:45.000 I think he can make this country great again.

00:34:48.000 So when people ask why you support Donald Trump, you just tell them.

00:34:53.000 He's going to take our economy from here to here.

00:34:59.000 He's not some cautious politician.

00:35:02.000 He says what I'm thinking.

00:35:03.000 I don't know what it is.

00:35:07.000 I just like the guy.

00:35:11.000 Some of his ideas seem a little out there, but I like that he's looking towards solutions.

00:35:17.000 He's definitely not PC.

00:35:23.000 So why do I support Trump?

00:35:25.000 Three words.

00:35:26.000 Good.

00:35:27.000 At.

00:35:28.000 Business.

00:35:30.000 A message from Racists for Donald Trump.

00:35:34.000 Okay, so the reason that I have a problem, and I'm not ripping on SNL here more than... Here's my rip on SNL.

00:35:40.000 Okay, first the rip on SNL.

00:35:42.000 They would never do anything like this about Barack Obama and the new Black Panthers.

00:35:45.000 Okay, Barack Obama is just as much of a racist as Donald Trump is in reverse.

00:35:48.000 Okay, so the fact is they have very similar feelings on special interest race groups that deserve a special handout.

00:35:54.000 And Obama certainly has as many racists who support him on the other side.

00:35:58.000 It's very hard to defend conservatism from this kind of stuff when you've got your chief candidate going out there and going soft on David Duke.

00:36:15.000 Okay, again, the two things that make me such a Trump opponent are one, the sense of the great man that he's built up around him that is not a conservative principle, and two, the fact that he's destroying the sense of conservatism.

00:36:28.000 First of all, he's not conservative.

00:36:30.000 Second of all, even beyond being not conservative in any way, shape, or form, he's justifying all the worst things that our opponents say about us.

00:36:37.000 And I don't care what our opponents say about us, typically, if they're completely unfounded.

00:36:41.000 But, when you go easy on the KKK, I'm sorry, I can't pretend that that's completely unfounded.

00:36:47.000 I just can't.

00:36:47.000 I can't.

00:36:48.000 Pat Buchanan is an anti-Semite.

00:36:50.000 Donald Trump may not be a racist, but he's certainly okay with taking help from them.

00:36:54.000 And that's all there is to it.

00:36:56.000 Okay, so.

00:36:58.000 All that being said, there's going to be a backlash now in favor of Trump, okay?

00:37:02.000 I'm predicting it right now.

00:37:03.000 There will be a backlash, because people like me have come out very strongly against Trump, saying we'll never vote for him.

00:37:08.000 And Trump is sort of like a supervillain.

00:37:10.000 He's a great political supervillain.

00:37:11.000 He absorbs energy cast toward him, and then he shoots it out of his fingers like the emperor.

00:37:16.000 So...

00:37:17.000 He's gonna get, he's gonna refract all the energy directed toward him and use it for his own benefit.

00:37:21.000 So, there are two places where he's gonna do it.

00:37:24.000 One is the media.

00:37:25.000 So this is where the SNL Mocking Trump Super Tuesday press conference comes in.

00:37:29.000 You know, SNL did this, this routine.

00:37:32.000 And, uh, and is it, yeah, let's fast forward to where we were.

00:37:34.000 There we go.

00:37:35.000 Anywhere in here is fine.

00:37:37.000 Sir, please sir, may I have another?

00:37:40.000 I mean, he really is a sad, desperate little potato back there, aren't you Chris?

00:37:46.000 Yes, sir.

00:37:47.000 Thank you, sir.

00:37:47.000 Please, sir, may I have another?

00:37:50.000 No.

00:37:51.000 Go get on a plane.

00:37:52.000 Go home.

00:37:53.000 Okay, you got it.

00:37:55.000 Also, P.S.

00:37:56.000 America, I have a great big huge dick.

00:38:06.000 All right.

00:38:07.000 Now, viewers, I know this is gonna be boring, but let's take a quick look at the Democrats.

00:38:12.000 Tonight is shaping up to be a big night for Bernie, but Hillary Clinton scored big on Super Tuesday.

00:38:17.000 Here's a clip of her thanking supporters.

00:38:19.000 Yes, hello!

00:38:20.000 Hello!

00:38:21.000 Thank you.

00:38:22.000 I'd just like to say thank the effing Lord!

00:38:28.000 I won seven states tonight, and to celebrate, I bought myself this brand-new Stormtrooper coat.

00:38:36.000 And to everyone who voted for me, thank you for trusting that I, Hillary Clinton, can bring this country together, just like I brought these 10 black people and one Muslim person together behind me tonight for this speech!

00:38:51.000 Yes!

00:38:53.000 Yes!

00:38:56.000 Yes!

00:38:56.000 Aren't these people great?

00:38:59.000 They are strong, they're beautiful, and they've all been punched in the nose at a Trump rally!

00:39:07.000 Okay, but this is the point, right?

00:39:09.000 So this is where the backlash comes, is that you've got the Trump juxtaposition.

00:39:13.000 Oh, he's a loudmouth, he's a bragger.

00:39:14.000 And then you've got Hillary, and she's robotic.

00:39:17.000 Okay, so far so good.

00:39:18.000 And then she drops that line that Trump's people just want to punch black people, right?

00:39:22.000 And so the implication all the Trump people are going to get from that is media hates us, therefore we have to double down on Trump.

00:39:29.000 Then you have Mitt Romney, who last week gave his speech.

00:39:31.000 We talked about this last week.

00:39:32.000 And Mitt Romney is seen as the most establishment guy in the world, ripping on Trump.

00:39:37.000 That redounds to Trump's benefit.

00:39:38.000 That helps Trump.

00:39:39.000 Because if the establishment is attacking Trump, Trump gets to claim he's anti-establishment, even though, if you remove all the quasi-drunken antics from Trump, he looks exactly like Jeb Bush.

00:39:48.000 Here's Mitt Romney talking about how there's no establishment.

00:39:50.000 It doesn't exist.

00:39:51.000 It's all a figment of your imagination.

00:39:53.000 How about the argument, and again we heard this from Rush, this is the establishment basically trying to maintain control of a guy and push back a guy that they wouldn't be able to control.

00:40:06.000 Well, you can't control Ted Cruz, for instance.

00:40:08.000 No one has suggested you could do that.

00:40:10.000 And Marco Rubio, everybody tried to stop Marco Rubio from going against a sitting Republican governor in Florida.

00:40:16.000 He did it anyway and won.

00:40:18.000 Establishments suggest that there must be some Wizard of Oz somewhere pulling the strings.

00:40:23.000 That's not the way it works.

00:40:24.000 There are individuals like myself.

00:40:26.000 I sat there and watched Donald Trump and I said, look, someone's got to say something.

00:40:30.000 I didn't talk to anybody and say, I'm going to do a speech.

00:40:32.000 You got some ideas?

00:40:33.000 This is something I did on my own because I care very deeply about the country.

00:40:37.000 I love America.

00:40:38.000 I'm concerned about America.

00:40:40.000 And I believe the heart and soul of conservatives and Republicans recognize that the principles that Donald Trump is talking about have nothing to do with conservatism, nothing to do with keeping America strong.

00:40:51.000 Okay, so the more that Romney talks and the more the establishment talks about a brokered convention, the more angry the Trump people get, and the more they feel like, okay, I'm not going to be dictated to by the guy who lost to Barack Obama in 2012.

00:41:01.000 Ben Carson, who should be, you know, somewhere doing his laundry, presumably.

00:41:05.000 Instead, he's hanging out with Katie Couric, and he's saying that everybody needs to accept the voter choice.

00:41:09.000 If it's Donald Trump, we just need to get over it and accept it.

00:41:13.000 As you know, Mitt Romney delivered a withering speech about Donald Trump today, calling him a phony and a fraud.

00:41:21.000 Well, you know, I would prefer that in the Republican Party,

00:41:35.000 We're not engaged in attempting to destroy each other because all that does is hands the election over to the Democrats.

00:41:43.000 I don't know why there's this penchant for snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.

00:41:50.000 They'll find some way to destroy themselves and it's just, it's maddening to see it happening.

00:41:57.000 So who is snatching defeat?

00:41:58.000 Are you referring to Mitt Romney?

00:42:00.000 Do you feel that he should not have made that speech?

00:42:04.000 Yeah, I'm referring to anybody who is trying to interfere with the process of determining what the will of the people are.

00:42:12.000 Okay, so the will of the people is, but in any case, Ben Carson doing yeoman's work for Trump, and I think there are a lot of people who are feeling the way that Carson does, and that is the more opposition there is to Trump, that just shows they're trying to steal it from Trump.

00:42:25.000 Look, I'm not trying to steal it from Trump.

00:42:27.000 Votes are votes.

00:42:29.000 And a brokered convention, by the way, is not stealing it from Trump.

00:42:31.000 Brokered conventions have been a tried and true hallmark of American politics for 200 years.

00:42:36.000 The idea that if Trump doesn't get the majority of votes, we have to hand it over to him anyway, I don't believe.

00:42:41.000 And I'm happy to use whatever is politically legal to stop Donald Trump the same way that he would use whatever was politically available and legally available to him to declare bankruptcy and use money that wasn't his.

00:42:52.000 If Donald Trump can do it, then certainly so can the Republican Party.

00:42:55.000 But it will create a backlash, and you're going to see that a little bit materialize over the next week as some of the Trump supporters start to get angry that he's not doing as well as they thought he would.

00:43:03.000 Okay, so Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders had a debate last night.

00:43:06.000 We're not going to go through the whole thing because most of it was just...

00:43:09.000 The usual.

00:43:10.000 But I want to point something out.

00:43:11.000 The difference, I think, between conservatives and liberals, between conservatives and leftists, I should say, the difference between conservatives and leftists is there are conservatives like me who will look at Trump and say, he's not one of us.

00:43:21.000 I'm not going to vote for somebody who's not one of us just because he has an R next to his name.

00:43:26.000 I'm not going to do that routine anymore.

00:43:27.000 I'm not going to slime conservatism with the likes of Donald Trump, right?

00:43:31.000 I tweeted many weeks ago and I'd said on this show that I would vote for a flaming pile of dog crap before I'd vote for Hillary Clinton.

00:43:38.000 But Donald Trump doesn't just require me to vote for him, he requires me to smear the flaming dog crap all over myself and label myself a Trump supporter.

00:43:45.000 That's what it requires.

00:43:46.000 People say a vote not for Hillary, abstaining from voting for Trump.

00:43:53.000 If you don't vote for Trump, that's a vote for Hillary.

00:43:56.000 Yes, but it's also a vote for Trump.

00:43:58.000 Okay?

00:43:58.000 Me voting for Trump is a vote for Trump.

00:44:00.000 It's not a vote for anybody else.

00:44:01.000 I can vote against Hillary by voting for a write-in.

00:44:04.000 I can do whatever I want, but if you're going to suggest that I have to vote Trump or I'm voting Hillary, well, I'm still voting Trump, and I'm not going to pull the lever on somebody like Donald Trump.

00:44:14.000 I'm not going to watch as conservatism becomes a demagogic, idol-worshipping philosophy just like the left.

00:44:21.000 The left, however, is happy doing all of this stuff.

00:44:23.000 All the mainstream politicians on the left are Donald Trump.

00:44:26.000 They just are not as loud and as brash and as ridiculous as he is when he does his routine.

00:44:30.000 So, for example, Bernie Sanders last night, he was talking about white people, right?

00:44:34.000 So I've already said Donald Trump caters to a certain class of racists.

00:44:39.000 Bernie Sanders does too, but it's on the other side.

00:44:41.000 Here's Bernie Sanders doing this routine.

00:44:43.000 To answer your question, I would say, and I think it's similar to what the Secretary said, when you're white, you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto.

00:44:53.000 You don't know what it's like to be poor.

00:44:55.000 You don't know what it's like to be hassled when you walk down the street.

00:44:59.000 Okay.

00:45:00.000 When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be poor.

00:45:02.000 This is pure race-baiting.

00:45:04.000 Pure race-baiting.

00:45:05.000 Right?

00:45:05.000 Can you imagine if Donald Trump got up at a rally and he said, when you're black, you don't know what it's like to have to score the same on the SATs as the rest of us?

00:45:13.000 Which, by the way, is actually true.

00:45:14.000 Right?

00:45:15.000 For most colleges, that's actually true.

00:45:17.000 What he's saying isn't even true.

00:45:19.000 Right?

00:45:19.000 This isn't even true.

00:45:21.000 You know, the majority of people on welfare in this country are white.

00:45:23.000 The majority of people under the poverty line in the United States are white.

00:45:27.000 But, again, you can race bait on the left and it's just fine.

00:45:30.000 People on the left have no principles, so they'll go along with Bernie Sanders and his socialism, or with Hillary Clinton and her lies.

00:45:36.000 They'll go right along with it.

00:45:37.000 But I'm not of the left.

00:45:38.000 I actually believe in a certain set of philosophical principles.

00:45:41.000 Right now, Ted Cruz best mirrors those principles.

00:45:44.000 In the next round, I'll vote for whoever mirrors those principles best to me, but I'm not going to vote for somebody who uses those principles as a ruse, as a guise, in order to push subversive other principles that undermine everything that I believe in.

00:45:59.000 Okay.

00:46:00.000 Now, very quickly, one thing I like and then one thing that I hate.

00:46:04.000 Okay, so the thing that I like, I've been going through, Andrew Klavan does his stuff I like, obviously, and I love Drew's show, and I listen to the stuff he likes, and then I tend to buy the books and read them myself.

00:46:16.000 So far, I've read two books that Drew has recommended that I thought were utter fails.

00:46:21.000 Mostly, I agree with Drew's recommendations, but there are two that I've read that are just complete fails.

00:46:26.000 One is called The Ruins.

00:46:27.000 It's a horror book, and it was... I couldn't even make it all the way through.

00:46:30.000 I got halfway through, I read the rest of the plot, and I was very happy that I didn't bother with it.

00:46:35.000 It was terrible, so don't buy that.

00:46:37.000 Sorry, Drew, you're wrong.

00:46:38.000 And the second one was, there's a book called The Little Stranger, and it's 500 pages of atmosphere.

00:46:44.000 And Drew, deep down in his heart, is real British.

00:46:47.000 Drew sort of wishes he were British a little bit.

00:46:51.000 Which is why we fought a revolution to stop, dammit.

00:46:53.000 So, this book is not a bad book.

00:46:55.000 It's just not a phenomenal book.

00:46:57.000 It keeps your interest, but Stephen King had said that it keeps you up at night.

00:47:00.000 No.

00:47:01.000 No, this did not keep me up for one single solitary second.

00:47:03.000 It's supposed to be a scary ghost book.

00:47:05.000 No, there's just... No, it really is just basically like a Jane Austen novel with a couple of suicides.

00:47:12.000 This is pretty much what it is.

00:47:13.000 It ain't great.

00:47:14.000 Okay, so the thing I do like is he recommended... I'm not gonna smack Drew without at least patting him on the back for this one.

00:47:20.000 He recommended the book The Haunting of Hill House by Shirley Jackson about two-thirds of the way through that and it is very enjoyable.

00:47:25.000 It is a good book.

00:47:26.000 Okay.

00:47:27.000 Things that I hate.

00:47:28.000 Oh, also, I'll talk about this after I've seen the whole thing.

00:47:30.000 I started watching, Amazon did a version of Macbeth with Michael Fassbender, and I'm watching that now.

00:47:35.000 I'll let you know if it's any good.

00:47:36.000 Marion Cotillard also, good cast, so we'll see if it's good.

00:47:39.000 Okay, things that I hate.

00:47:41.000 So Nancy Reagan passed away over the weekend.

00:47:44.000 And Nancy Reagan was perhaps the last apolitical First Lady.

00:47:48.000 Barbara Bush was pretty political.

00:47:50.000 Hillary was certainly political.

00:47:51.000 Laura was kind of apolitical, actually, so that's not completely fair.

00:47:54.000 But Nancy Reagan was a pretty apolitical figure, big defender of her husband.

00:47:59.000 She passes away, and if ever there's going to be a figure in politics, you figure we'll get a nice set of obituaries, it'd be Nancy Reagan.

00:48:06.000 I mean, her big thing back in the 80s was, don't do drugs, right?

00:48:09.000 That was her big thing, was D.A.R.E., right?

00:48:11.000 It was don't do drugs.

00:48:12.000 I remember the tail end of it.

00:48:14.000 So, what happens, the Washington Post trashed her with an obituary.

00:48:21.000 They trashed her with this obituary.

00:48:23.000 I mean, really trashed her.

00:48:24.000 So, first of all, there's a bunch of stuff on Twitter, all the usual nasty people.

00:48:28.000 But, Washington Post had a lady named Lois Romano, who went with this as her opening paragraph in the obit for Nancy Reagan, who died at 94, over the weekend.

00:48:37.000 Nancy Reagan had an undeniable knack for inviting controversy.

00:48:41.000 This is her opener.

00:48:43.000 There were her extravagant spending habits at a time of double-digit unemployment, a chaotic relationship with her children and stepchildren that could rival a soap opera plot, and the jaw-dropping news that she had insisted the White House abide by an astrologer when planning the president's schedule.

00:48:58.000 This was her opener to Nancy Reagan Died.

00:49:01.000 Okay, this is how the left operates.

00:49:03.000 There are certain people on the- Listen, I'm not somebody who believes in the whole, let the body cool off before you talk about who they were.

00:49:10.000 When Teddy Kennedy died, I was fine with talking immediately within 10 seconds about how he would be burning in hell for what he did to Mary Jo Kopacny.

00:49:16.000 Like, I have no problem saying that about bad people.

00:49:18.000 When Yasser Arafat died, the world was a significantly better place when Yasser Arafat died.

00:49:22.000 The world's a better place with Yasser Arafat not on it.

00:49:25.000 When Jimmy Carter dies, I'm gonna be talking immediately about how Jimmy Carter was a bad person who used to hang out with terrorists and still does hang out with terrorists and an anti-Semite to boot.

00:49:33.000 Now, I'm not somebody who's politically correct about this sort of stuff, but Nancy Reagan, for God's sake.

00:49:38.000 I mean, first of all, anything here, all this, none of this is political stuff.

00:49:41.000 Okay?

00:49:42.000 None of this is political stuff.

00:49:44.000 I mean, she wasn't even as political as Michelle Obama, and it would be inappropriate to go after Michelle Obama after, God forbid, Michelle Obama dies.

00:49:52.000 I mean, Michelle Obama's done a lot of political stuff, but, I mean, come on, really?

00:49:55.000 That's how you would open?

00:49:57.000 Just, it demonstrates, and who greenlit that?

00:49:59.000 That was the obit that the Washington Post greenlit?

00:50:02.000 Amazing.

00:50:04.000 Romano also wrote, The glamour soon was seen as ostentation during a steep recession.

00:50:09.000 After complaining that the White House residential quarters were in disrepair and noting she could find no matching set of China in the place, Reagan turned to affluent friends to raise funds for $800,000 in renovations and $200,000 in new China.

00:50:21.000 Although no public money was spent, these two expenditures became symbols of her excesses and attitudes.

00:50:27.000 No public money was spent.

00:50:28.000 Zero.

00:50:29.000 But that goes into her obit, so.

00:50:32.000 Never.

00:50:32.000 There's nothing too low for the left.

00:50:33.000 And folks, this is why I'm not of the left.

00:50:35.000 I think there are things that are too low for the right.

00:50:37.000 I think that there are two things that are too egregious for the right.

00:50:40.000 I think there are policies that we don't embrace.

00:50:43.000 So, here's the deal.

00:50:44.000 Donald Trump, right now, he's leading.

00:50:46.000 Hopefully, he'll start to collapse.

00:50:48.000 But we're going to have to have a serious conversation inside the conservative movement about what we stand for.

00:50:52.000 And we don't change our message.

00:50:54.000 Based on what we think is victory.

00:50:56.000 Okay?

00:50:56.000 If we just change our message based on what we think is popular, we might as well be Democrats.

00:51:00.000 Because I can tell you the most popular message of all.

00:51:02.000 Free crap for everyone.

00:51:04.000 Right?

00:51:04.000 If we want to win, we can just run on free crap for everybody.

00:51:07.000 But if we're going to actually stand up for principles, I need to know what those principles are.

00:51:11.000 Otherwise, you're not going to earn my vote.

00:51:13.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:51:14.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - March 07, 2016

Ep. 84 - No, Trump Isn't Hitler

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