The Ben Shapiro Show - March 17, 2016


Ep. 91 - Will I Finally Get On The Trump Train?


Episode Stats

Length

34 minutes

Words per Minute

190.80583

Word Count

6,551

Sentence Count

492

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

Ben Shapiro says that if Donald Trump is the Republican presidential nominee, we should all jump on board the Trump train, even if he s not the likely nominee. He also points out that if Hillary Clinton is the nominee, there will be a lot of people who vote for her even if she s the Republican nominee, because she s more than likely to win the election than Trump is likely to be the Democratic nominee. And he says it s time for us to find a new mission, a mission that isn t just to vote for Trump, but to destroy the only conservative movement that s left-wing in America that s standing in the way of our conservative vision of the world under the banner of the supposedly conservative party. Ben Shapiro is the host of The Ben Shapiro Show on Fox News Radio and host of the conservative radio show The Weekly Standard. He is a frequent contributor to the New York Times, CNN, and the Wall Street Journal, and is a regular contributor to conservative publications such as Accuracy in the Media. and The Daily Caller. He is the author of several books, including and has been featured on CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, and CBS, among other outlets. He has been a frequent guest on conservative radio shows and radio shows, including conservative radio stations across the country, including the Fox News Channel, NPR, NPR and NPR, and blogs at The FiveThirtyThirtyEight, and he is a contributing editor at the Weekly Standard, The Daily Wire, The Hill, and The Huffington Post, among many other publications, including The Daily Beast, and has a blog, The National Post, and appears regularly on the radio show, and on his website. . He's a regular on CNN and The Hill Watchdog, and his social media accounts, and you can find him on social media on the airwaves on the Four Corners podcast. , and he's on the internet on the FiveThirtyEight website, The SixThirtyEight podcast, and social media account, and other social media platforms, including his website, and his blog is on the podcast, and is a podcast, which he also has a podcast on his personal website, which is a blog on the Internet account, The Six Figures and is also on The Six Sigma Podcast, which does not endorse Donald Trump s campaign. And he's also on the Air Force One account, which you can get more information about Donald Trump's chances of winning the election.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 And we're here.
00:00:01.000 It's a Thursday.
00:00:02.000 We're nearing the end of the week.
00:00:03.000 And I have a note for a lot of people who are criticizing those of us who say we'll never vote for Donald Trump.
00:00:08.000 You know, those of us who have said that we're not going to vote for Trump, we're not going to go along just to defeat Hillary Clinton.
00:00:13.000 That's not out of spite or personal pique.
00:00:16.000 Many of us really didn't like Mitt Romney or John McCain either.
00:00:18.000 We did vote for them.
00:00:20.000 Trump is different.
00:00:21.000 That's because we believe that beating Hillary in 2016 is significantly less important than defeating a leftist vision of the government's role, both in the Democratic Party and inside the Republican Party.
00:00:32.000 We may be entering an era in which conservatism has become a minority philosophy, as we said yesterday.
00:00:38.000 But so was nationalist populism until five minutes ago, when certain Republicans became so all-fire desperate for victory that they made common cause with all the disgruntled big government authoritarians like Trump in order to defeat Democrats.
00:00:52.000 Those same Republicans now have to be forced back toward conservatism, and the only way to do that, really, is to build up a conservative army loyal to principle rather than personality, and then for that army to use their voting leverage to stop candidates like Trump.
00:01:06.000 Trump's whole pitch is that he's bringing all these disgruntled voters back to the polls.
00:01:09.000 He says this all the time.
00:01:10.000 Millions and millions, lines of people.
00:01:12.000 Many mainstream Republicans are falling for this routine.
00:01:15.000 We conservatives, we can make the same pitch, but only if we leave Trumpism to its own bizarre, nasty style.
00:01:22.000 Building a conservative movement, it's a lot harder than cobbling together a coalition to win an election, to hand power to a dude who's going to implement a leftist vision of the world under the banner of the supposedly conservative party.
00:01:34.000 But it's really important that we do just that.
00:01:37.000 That we find a different mission, a mission of building that movement.
00:01:41.000 We calculate that Donald Trump
00:01:43.000 If Trump wins, he does gut the only movement that we have.
00:01:45.000 If Hillary wins, there may be a future for our movement yet.
00:02:05.000 And by the way, Trump isn't going to shut the border.
00:02:07.000 He's not going to fight the war on terror properly.
00:02:09.000 He's not going to deport massive numbers of illegal immigrants.
00:02:11.000 It's not happening.
00:02:12.000 He's lying to you and you're being played.
00:02:14.000 So there's not going to be a detente.
00:02:16.000 If Trump is the nominee, I'm still never Trump.
00:02:19.000 This is not ending just because people say we ought to jump on the Trump train.
00:02:22.000 We'll talk about all of that and more.
00:02:24.000 I am Ben Shapiro.
00:02:25.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
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00:03:40.000 So, here we are.
00:03:41.000 It's a Thursday.
00:03:42.000 And, you know, as we say, we have now entered a world where Donald Trump is the likely nominee.
00:03:49.000 Where Donald Trump is the likely nominee.
00:03:51.000 And there are so many different aspects to Trump's victories, to Trump's nomination, that are worth noting.
00:03:57.000 There are so many problems with it and so many aspects of it.
00:04:00.000 But let's start
00:04:01.000 With the fact that Donald Trump continues along this line of going soft on potential violence.
00:04:06.000 You know, we don't have a lot left in common here in the United States, the right and the left.
00:04:10.000 I've said for a long time, I think leftism is an evil philosophy.
00:04:13.000 I think leftism does promote violence.
00:04:14.000 I think that leftism does promote stealing.
00:04:17.000 I think it promotes tyranny.
00:04:19.000 The one thing that we all had in common, at least until the last five minutes, was that if we disagreed, that was not an argument for us to beat the living hell out of each other.
00:04:27.000 We weren't going to get violent with one another.
00:04:30.000 And lately, that seems to be going by the wayside.
00:04:33.000 The latest indicator of this is there's this woman who's a Trump supporter, who I know, she's a nice gal, but she's a big Trump supporter.
00:04:40.000 She was on CNN last night, and here's what she had to say about Donald Trump, who had said just a little while ago that if he doesn't get the nomination, maybe there'll be riots in the streets if he doesn't get the nomination.
00:04:50.000 That right there would cause anger, and that would be an obvious backhand to all of the people who have been paying attention and who have been engaged in this political process.
00:04:58.000 So, you know, riots aren't necessarily a bad thing if it means it's because it's sitting there and fighting the fact that our establishment Republican Party has gone corrupt and decided to ignore the voice of the people and ignore the process.
00:05:11.000 Scotty, you really don't want riots to emerge at the Republican Convention in Chicago, where people could be injured, people could be hurt, they could be maimed.
00:05:19.000 You don't want riots.
00:05:21.000 It's not riot as in a negative thing, what we've seen in the past.
00:05:24.000 The fact is you have a large amount of people that will be very unhappy.
00:05:27.000 I don't think they would sit there and resort.
00:05:28.000 In fact, I know they would not resort to violence.
00:05:30.000 I know they would not do it.
00:05:31.000 However, they would make sure their voices are heard, that they can't be ignored.
00:05:35.000 And when we sit here and talk about it, you have to understand there's a process of these delegates being elected.
00:05:40.000 And that's why I am very skeptical of this idea that we will not have Mr. Trump as our nominee as he continues to grow in strength.
00:05:46.000 The majority of the delegates going to this convention have pledged their allegiance or have sat there and said that they are a supporter of Mr. Trump.
00:05:54.000 They will be the majority.
00:05:56.000 So if something happens to ignore their voice as they are representatives of the people,
00:06:00.000 Okay, we can stop her here.
00:06:08.000 So she says she doesn't condone violence, but the word that Trump used was riot.
00:06:13.000 He didn't use the word protest.
00:06:14.000 He didn't say that all hell would break loose.
00:06:16.000 He said that there would be riots, that people would actually get violent.
00:06:19.000 And she pooh-poohed that and then she kind of backed off a bit.
00:06:21.000 No, I don't really mean violence.
00:06:22.000 I just mean kind of violence.
00:06:24.000 Just like a little bit.
00:06:26.000 The left constantly pushes the same message that if they don't get their way, they're going to let people loose in the streets.
00:06:31.000 They're just more subtle about it.
00:06:32.000 Trump is more obvious about it.
00:06:34.000 That doesn't make Trump right and the left wrong.
00:06:36.000 It makes them both wrong.
00:06:37.000 Both are allowed to be wrong.
00:06:39.000 There's something that I'm toying with, this idea that I'm toying with about Donald Trump, which is, you know, it's not just that he's degrading the political process.
00:06:46.000 Which was already degraded.
00:06:47.000 I have no illusions about this grand, glorious American political process where we all disagree in civilized fashion and then come to conclusions with one another.
00:06:55.000 I don't buy that.
00:06:57.000 I've never bought that.
00:06:58.000 But what Trump is doing, what Trump is doing
00:07:01.000 is he's created inside the Republican Party.
00:07:04.000 It already existed for the Democrats, but now he's creating inside the Republican Party what I like to call broken promises theory.
00:07:10.000 So in 1982, James Q. Wilson, who's a sociologist, he coined the term broken windows theory.
00:07:16.000 Broken windows theory was this theory, that if you go into a neighborhood, any neighborhood, and you leave a car on the street, and you break one of the windows of the car, within a week,
00:07:28.000 All the windows on the car will be broken.
00:07:30.000 The area around the car will be strewn with trash.
00:07:32.000 There will be graffiti on the sidewalk.
00:07:34.000 Essentially, that once people understand that they can get away with lawlessness, and there becomes a spirit of lawlessness that's growing, this feeling that you can get away with little things, little things lead to big things.
00:07:45.000 As a parent, I can tell you this is true with my daughter.
00:07:47.000 If I let her get away with small things, she's constantly pushing the envelope.
00:07:50.000 How far can she go?
00:07:51.000 How far is she willing to go?
00:07:53.000 Well, Donald Trump has done that not just with violence at his rallies, with his kind of soft pandering to that, not just with the soft pandering to racism and antisemitism that I see from the Trump campaign and that I'm seeing the response to every single day on my Twitter and in my email, and still getting all that silliness and inanity.
00:08:12.000 By the way, note to all you white supremacists out there, the great irony of life is that you white supremacists are some of the stupidest people on planet Earth.
00:08:20.000 I mean, honest to God, if you're trying to make the case that whiteness is supreme, you should find some people with higher IQ to make that case than you, because you are super stupid.
00:08:29.000 In any case, what exactly... So the broken promises theory also suggests that Trump isn't just...
00:08:35.000 Creating this kind of feeling of incipient lawlessness, but also he's creating this feeling that lying is okay.
00:08:41.000 Trump lies not just routinely but consistently.
00:08:44.000 Donald Trump cannot get through a paragraph without lying.
00:08:47.000 I mean literally not a paragraph.
00:08:49.000 We can pick any clip of Donald Trump and Donald Trump will be lying in that clip.
00:08:52.000 Today is a rare day where we actually don't have Trump audio, but Donald Trump lies about everything from Trump steaks to Trump vodka.
00:08:59.000 Trump lies about everything from Trump University to whether his campaign manager grabbed a woman by the arm hard enough to bruise her.
00:09:05.000 Donald Trump lies about everything, and this has ramifications, because he rewards people who lie on his behalf.
00:09:11.000 He rewards them, right?
00:09:12.000 We saw yesterday, Corey Lewandowski, that campaign manager, ends up on stage with Donald Trump, with Trump looking to his side saying, Good job, Corey.
00:09:19.000 Great job, Corey.
00:09:20.000 All you bastards in the media targeting my good boy, Corey, over here.
00:09:24.000 Well, one of the victims of broken promises theory, one of the people who's
00:09:30.000 Now I do believe, and certainly in my discussions with Donald Trump, he does love America.
00:09:34.000 And he does want to be successful.
00:09:35.000 And he will surround himself with very good people.
00:09:59.000 I will be doing things as well, yes.
00:10:00.000 Certainly in an advisory capacity.
00:10:04.000 Yes.
00:10:20.000 Well, you know, we haven't hammered out all the details.
00:10:23.000 Okay, so that's Dr. Carson saying, I got a quid pro quo, I was paid off.
00:10:26.000 This is the grand emissary of morality and decency in the Republican Party, right?
00:10:31.000 This is the guy who ran just to add a touch of class and a feeling of conscience to the Republican Party saying, yeah, I sold out.
00:10:39.000 Well, because he's been infected by the infectious falsehood of Donald Trump, here is what Ben Carson said last night about whether Trump offered him a job on CNN.
00:10:48.000 Okay.
00:10:49.000 All right.
00:10:50.000 One question that I have to ask you, because everybody has been talking about this one as well.
00:10:53.000 You've said Donald Trump offered you a role in his administration.
00:10:57.000 And at the last debate, I remember listening to him.
00:10:59.000 He said he spent an hour talking with you about education.
00:11:02.000 So when people said, role in the administration, they said, oh, maybe it's going to be health related.
00:11:06.000 But then he emphasized education is something that you are very passionate about.
00:11:10.000 What are we looking at if Donald Trump is the next president of the United States for Ben Carson?
00:11:14.000 Education secretary, VP, Surgeon General, what?
00:11:20.000 Well, first of all, we did not discuss any quid pro quo.
00:11:24.000 There seems to be a great desire by many people to try to make it seem that way.
00:11:29.000 But we did agree that we're both extremely interested in saving America, particularly for the next generations, and that we will continue to work together in the process of doing that.
00:11:39.000 We talk about many things.
00:11:41.000 Healthcare, as well as the security of our nation.
00:11:46.000 Now he says there's no quid pro quo, right?
00:11:56.000 So now he's fibbing.
00:11:58.000 Everybody's learned from Trump.
00:12:01.000 Over the course of 48 hours, you can flip any opinion.
00:12:02.000 You've got Chris Christie doing it, and Mike Huckabee doing it.
00:12:06.000 Everybody wants to follow the Trump battle plan, and that is, if you say something that's inconvenient, you start fibbing about it.
00:12:13.000 And that's convenient for you.
00:12:15.000 All of this degrades not just the politics of the Republican Party, but the very nature of the Republican Party, which I thought was supposed to be honest.
00:12:23.000 You know, I have a basic rule here, folks.
00:12:25.000 Decency trumps everything.
00:12:27.000 Decency trumps everything.
00:12:28.000 Decency is basically, in the end, the only thing that allows us to live together in society.
00:12:33.000 And if you can't be decent, if you're lying to each other on the basis of politics, or if you're
00:12:38.000 If you're just breaking rules of basic decency.
00:12:44.000 And by the way, it is breaking a rule of basic decency to encourage the authorities to take their guns and stick them in the faces of other people on your behalf just because you want something.
00:12:54.000 If that's where we've reached, then we're in some serious trouble.
00:12:57.000 And Trump is contributing to that.
00:12:58.000 He's not tamping it down.
00:12:59.000 He's contributing to that.
00:13:01.000 So, by the way, are the media.
00:13:01.000 The media are just cheerleaders for Donald Trump.
00:13:04.000 Absolute cheerleaders for Donald Trump.
00:13:06.000 Bill O'Reilly, over on Fox News, has become, I think, one of the most embarrassing things I've seen in this election cycle.
00:13:12.000 Was Bill O'Reilly talking about his milkshakes with Donald Trump.
00:13:16.000 You remember this a few months ago, where Donald Trump and Bill O'Reilly, O'Reilly was trying to wheedle Trump into coming to the last Republican debate.
00:13:23.000 And he says, well, you know, Donald, you owe me milkshakes.
00:13:27.000 You owe me milkshakes.
00:13:28.000 And Donald says, my milkshake brings all the O'Reillys to the yard.
00:13:31.000 And they're like, it's better than yours.
00:13:34.000 Damn right, it's better than yours.
00:13:35.000 It's huge!
00:13:37.000 It was very embarrassing.
00:13:38.000 O'Reilly did the same thing last night, essentially.
00:13:40.000 Now he's advising Donald Trump on how to run his campaign.
00:13:43.000 But we have very little problem.
00:13:45.000 Then in Chicago, we could have had a problem, and I made a decision, and got credit for that decision to cancel.
00:13:50.000 Yeah, I supported the decision.
00:13:51.000 Because there, that was really, that was very confrontational.
00:13:54.000 But that's what you're going to see now.
00:13:55.000 You're going to see Black Lives Matter move on, all of these people trying to brand you as some Nazi, and the press will go along with it, enabling them to do their deal.
00:14:07.000 But they're baiting you.
00:14:09.000 I'm speaking from experience.
00:14:11.000 I don't know whether you remember Al Franken, but he baited me.
00:14:14.000 I guess it was 10 years ago.
00:14:16.000 I fell for it like an idiot.
00:14:18.000 And he won.
00:14:18.000 In a sense, he got all this publicity, and he was able to lie at will and do what he did.
00:14:25.000 He's a despicable human being.
00:14:27.000 But he won because I reacted to him, well, I should have floated above it.
00:14:32.000 And I'm wondering whether you can float above, move on, and Black Lives Matter.
00:14:36.000 Is it possible?
00:14:39.000 I think I can.
00:14:40.000 The only thing I would say is that we have some very big... Oh, goodness.
00:14:42.000 What a waste.
00:14:42.000 Whatever Trump says here is irrelevant.
00:14:44.000 The bottom line is there are members of the media who are pushing Trump really, really hard.
00:14:47.000 Megyn Kelly, by the way, has now done an interview in which she complained that Donald Trump ripping her, O'Reilly hasn't defended her in any way, like on O'Reilly's show, which is basically true.
00:14:58.000 And O'Reilly isn't the only one at Fox who's doing this routine.
00:15:00.000 There are a bunch of hosts who are doing this routine.
00:15:02.000 You saw Fox and Friends yesterday.
00:15:04.000 Donald Trump says, you're my people.
00:15:05.000 You're good people.
00:15:06.000 You're my people.
00:15:06.000 And they're, yeah, we love you, Donald.
00:15:08.000 Yeah!
00:15:09.000 Well, you're not a bunch of Bobby Soxers.
00:15:11.000 You're supposed to be the media, I thought.
00:15:13.000 I've been very open.
00:15:14.000 All these people, by the way, don't say who they back.
00:15:16.000 They clearly back Trump.
00:15:18.000 I've been very open about the fact that I back Ted Cruz.
00:15:21.000 I mean, full disclosure, the people who back The Daily Wire financially are people who also support Ted Cruz.
00:15:27.000 Most of the people who are my friends support Ted Cruz.
00:15:30.000 It turns out I hang out and like to work with people with similar values.
00:15:33.000 I've been very open and obvious about my Cruz bias, but if Ted Cruz were in front of me, I would ask him tougher questions than that.
00:15:39.000 I mean, that's ridiculous.
00:15:41.000 We're now to the point where Jorge Ramos is basically right when he's ripping Bill O'Reilly.
00:15:47.000 Listen, I was a fan of when Donald Trump shut down Jorge Ramos for trying to invade a press conference and scream at him earlier this year, but here's Jorge Ramos going after O'Reilly, and he's not actually wrong.
00:15:57.000 What I'm going to do is bring it back to your network.
00:15:59.000 Alright, if you, the top guy, has demonized him as a racist, how can you possibly cover him?
00:16:05.000 I think as a journalist you have to take a stand when it comes to racism and discrimination.
00:16:09.000 How can you cover him, Jorge?
00:16:10.000 Corruption, public lies, dictatorship and human rights.
00:16:12.000 If you don't take a stand in those instances, then what's our role as journalists?
00:16:16.000 I think you have to be tougher on Donald Trump.
00:16:19.000 You haven't been tough on him.
00:16:21.000 Listen, I have confronted Donald Trump in ways that he has told me that I'm unfair, okay?
00:16:27.000 So I'm not going to get into me.
00:16:29.000 I want to bring it back to you.
00:16:31.000 You've talked to him so many times, and you let him get away with everything.
00:16:36.000 No, no, no, no, no.
00:16:37.000 I don't get to let him get away with anything.
00:16:39.000 I confront him.
00:16:40.000 That's not true.
00:16:41.000 Okay, so Jorge Ramos, when he says that half of his criticisms about Trump are not true, but when he says that O'Reilly has no criticisms about Trump,
00:16:50.000 It's a little true.
00:16:51.000 It's a little true.
00:16:52.000 And that's a problem because you got the media basically shilling for him from the right to the left.
00:16:56.000 The left is shilling for him because he's ratings and because he's good TV and because they think he's going to lose to Hillary.
00:17:01.000 And you got some people on the right shilling for him because he's ratings and good TV and because they think maybe he'll beat Hillary.
00:17:06.000 So it's really kind of gross all the way through.
00:17:09.000 You know, it's it's it's just it's problematic.
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00:18:13.000 Okay, I wanna talk a little bit about why Donald Trump
00:18:16.000 He's going to continue to do well here.
00:18:19.000 He's going to win, right?
00:18:20.000 I mean, he is going to win the nomination in all likelihood because John Kasich won't get the hell out because John Kasich is selfish beyond all human measure.
00:18:28.000 But President Obama has now nominated his new guy.
00:18:31.000 His name is Merrick Garland for the Supreme Court.
00:18:33.000 Merrick Garland is a lefty.
00:18:34.000 He's somebody who's very anti-gun.
00:18:36.000 He's somebody who the New York Times describes as in the mold of Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor.
00:18:40.000 So just as left as anybody else on the court.
00:18:43.000 Here's President Obama yesterday telling Republicans to vote on his nominee.
00:18:47.000 To suggest that someone who has served his country with honor and dignity, with a distinguished track record of delivering justice for the American people, might be treated, as one Republican leader stated, as a political piñata?
00:19:03.000 That can't be right.
00:19:08.000 Okay, we can shut him up.
00:19:12.000 This idea that we can't treat him as a political piñata.
00:19:16.000 Well, the Republicans are saying we're not going to give him a hearing.
00:19:19.000 Ted Cruz says rightly, Donald Trump would probably like Merrick Garland as a judge.
00:19:23.000 Merrick Garland is somebody who has been very much to the left on most of his rulings, particularly on guns.
00:19:29.000 And that's sort of where Donald Trump was until the last 30 seconds.
00:19:33.000 Merrick Garland is a consensus pick with great, great qualifications.
00:19:37.000 He would swim through the Senate in a normal year with a lot of support.
00:19:42.000 And Cruz is right.
00:19:43.000 You know, the fact is that he's unlikely to ever nominate anybody like Merrick Garland, and Trump is at least half likely to nominate somebody like Merrick Garland.
00:19:51.000 The problem is that people are responding not to Obama nominating Merrick Garland and saying, okay, well,
00:19:58.000 Trump might do the same thing.
00:19:59.000 They're reacting to the Republicans who are going to cave.
00:20:01.000 So the Democrats are already very excited about this.
00:20:04.000 The Democrats say the Republicans are going to cave.
00:20:06.000 Here's Chuck Schumer, who I believe is on the Judiciary Committee, the Senator from New York.
00:20:10.000 He says, yeah, don't worry, the Republicans will cave.
00:20:14.000 If either Chuck Grassley, Chairman of Judiciary, or the six or seven Republicans who are from purplish, bluish states, who are getting a lot of heat back home, not just from progressive groups, but from their editorial pages, from a lot of Republican leaders have said this, and they will crack.
00:20:32.000 And I think the likelihood is that we will have hearings and a vote.
00:20:36.000 I can't predict how that will come out, but you know these hearings are sort of magical.
00:20:41.000 If the nominee comes off very well, they get appointed.
00:20:44.000 Okay, so we can stop him here.
00:20:45.000 And then, you saw in that list of people there who are meeting with Merrick Garland, Jeff Flake.
00:20:50.000 Jeff Flake's a congressperson, I think he's a senator from Arizona.
00:20:53.000 And here's Jeff Flake talking about how Merrick Garland might not be so bad.
00:20:58.000 I think that Republicans are doing the right thing.
00:21:00.000 We're fully justified in saying let's wait until after the election to actually nominate somebody or approve the President's nomination.
00:21:10.000 But I said yesterday that if Republicans are not successful in the November election, I hope we are, but if we're not, then we ought to look at this nomination in a lame duck session in November.
00:21:22.000 I would rather have a less liberal nominee, like Merrick Garland, than a nominee that Hillary Clinton, if she were president, would put forward.
00:21:32.000 Okay, and this is how it's going to go, right?
00:21:34.000 And then people look at this and they say, God, so you're all lying to us.
00:21:36.000 You say that you're not going to cave, and then you're going to cave.
00:21:39.000 I'm angry I'm voting for Donald Trump.
00:21:41.000 By the way, that video from Andrew Clavin, which everybody should go watch right now, is up to well over 8 million views just on Facebook.
00:21:48.000 Overall, it's probably closer to nine million at this point.
00:21:51.000 Clavin, he does a good job of summing up, and this is what it's all about, right?
00:21:55.000 People are looking at Jeff Flake and a lot of these characters and they're saying, sure, Donald Trump may be more similar to Merrick Garland than to Ted Cruz, but at least he's not caving to people like Merrick Garland.
00:22:06.000 Oh, but he will.
00:22:08.000 Oh, but he will.
00:22:08.000 Laura Ingraham says basically this.
00:22:10.000 She says to the Republican Party, you have to listen to what the people want.
00:22:13.000 If people want Trump, give them Trump.
00:22:14.000 They're angry.
00:22:14.000 Give them Trump.
00:22:16.000 Who is going to write the platform?
00:22:19.000 Usually the nominee has a hand in determining who the keynote speakers are.
00:22:24.000 What's the order of the speakers?
00:22:25.000 I mean, those are small things, but symbolically they say a lot about the direction of the party.
00:22:30.000 So when Tucker was saying, maybe it's time for the party elders to listen to what the people want.
00:22:36.000 Whether it's Trump or Cruz or a combination of their views or maybe some of what Kasich says is a good idea.
00:22:42.000 The party has to get closer to where the people are on some of these issues and be less concerned about, in a way, who the vehicle for those issues are going to be.
00:22:51.000 Okay, we can stop it here.
00:22:53.000 What if the people are wrong?
00:22:55.000 Seriously, what if the people are wrong?
00:22:57.000 One of the great lies about our system of government is that it's a democracy.
00:23:00.000 It's not.
00:23:01.000 It's a republic.
00:23:02.000 The purpose of us being a republic and not a democracy is that sometimes the people are wrong.
00:23:07.000 This is why we have a constitution.
00:23:08.000 It was theoretically to prevent people from doing stupid things.
00:23:12.000 This is why the electoral college was in place.
00:23:14.000 To prevent people from electing someone completely unpalatable.
00:23:18.000 Right?
00:23:18.000 A lot of these systems have failed, but this was the founding idea, was people will indeed do stupid things.
00:23:23.000 And we need to stop them from doing stupid things.
00:23:25.000 Sometimes they let their emotions just get control of them, and they're so angry that Obama's gonna appoint somebody, and that the Republicans won't stop him, that they're gonna fight against whoever the Republicans don't like, even if that guy is basically another Obama, just our Obama.
00:23:42.000 Right?
00:23:42.000 What happens if the people are wrong?
00:23:44.000 Is there an obligation to stand up to the people?
00:23:46.000 It's an unpopular position.
00:23:48.000 It's an unpopular position, but here's the truth.
00:23:50.000 Even inside the Republican Party, the vast majority of Republicans are not happy with Donald Trump.
00:23:55.000 The vast majority of Republicans are voting against Donald Trump, and a huge swath of them, according to the latest exit polls, 37% of them, will stay home if Donald Trump is the nominee, or vote third party if Donald Trump is the nominee.
00:24:07.000 Does it behoove the Republican Party to go along with Trump, a guy whose infectious lying and broken promises have become a trend?
00:24:17.000 Does it behoove them just because a certain segment of people want it?
00:24:20.000 Is that better?
00:24:22.000 If so, this would be the first time in my lifetime that the Republican Party has bowed to the whims of the people.
00:24:26.000 It seems like they were manipulating events in 2008 and 2012 with McCain and Romney to get the guy they wanted.
00:24:33.000 So why is it now all of a sudden they're getting shy?
00:24:36.000 It's very troublesome, and it's quite perturbing.
00:24:40.000 Okay, so one thing I like, and then a couple of things from the mailbag.
00:24:44.000 Thing I like.
00:24:44.000 Today is St.
00:24:45.000 Patrick's Day.
00:24:47.000 Not my holiday, obviously.
00:24:49.000 St.
00:24:49.000 Patrick's Day is not a holiday for the Jews, but it's something that has become an American excuse to get drunk off your butt and vomit everywhere.
00:24:59.000 But, if you actually want to celebrate St.
00:25:01.000 Patrick's Day in a way that's respectful to the Irish, there's a great movie that you can take a look at.
00:25:05.000 Old movie from, I believe, 1952.
00:25:08.000 And the movie is The Quiet Man.
00:25:10.000 Great, great movie.
00:25:11.000 John Wayne, Maureen O'Hara, directed by John Ford.
00:25:14.000 Sort of his love letter to Ireland.
00:25:16.000 And, uh, and this is one of the more famous clips.
00:25:17.000 You've probably seen it in E.T., actually, because this is- they use this clip in E.T.
00:25:22.000 when E.T.
00:25:22.000 is watching The Quiet Man on TV, and Elliot is at school, and he's released all the frogs.
00:25:27.000 You remember this?
00:25:28.000 And he grabs the- he grabs the girl, and he kisses her?
00:25:30.000 It's a rip on- on this, right?
00:25:32.000 Here- here is the- the fam- probably the most famous scene from The Quiet Man, but the whole movie is just grand, and- and lovely, and fun, and- and humorous.
00:25:39.000 It's a great movie.
00:25:40.000 Here we go.
00:26:11.000 What a bold one you are.
00:26:12.000 And who gave you leave to be kissing me?
00:26:14.000 So you can talk.
00:26:15.000 Yes, I can, I will, and I do.
00:26:17.000 And it's more than talk you'll be getting if you step a step closer to me.
00:26:20.000 Don't worry, you got a wallop.
00:26:22.000 You'll get over it, I'm thinking.
00:26:24.000 Well, some things a man doesn't get over so easy.
00:26:28.000 Like what, supposing?
00:26:31.000 Like the sight of a girl coming through the fields with the sun on her hair, kneeling in church with a face like a saint.
00:26:41.000 You're a saint indeed.
00:26:43.000 And now come into a man's house to clean it for him?
00:26:47.000 But that was just by way of being a good Christian act.
00:26:50.000 I know it was, Mary Kay Denner.
00:26:52.000 And I was nice.
00:26:58.000 Not at all.
00:27:09.000 Great.
00:27:11.000 Just a great movie.
00:27:11.000 And the score is fantastic, too, by Victor Young.
00:27:14.000 Really makes the film.
00:27:16.000 The basic premise of the film is that John Wayne is an American who's come back to Ireland to take over his family inheritance.
00:27:23.000 He was a boxer in the United States, and he killed a man in the ring.
00:27:26.000 And now he's come back, and he's afraid to fight.
00:27:29.000 And her brother is kind of the renowned town pugilist.
00:27:32.000 He's a guy who just likes to fight people.
00:27:34.000 And hates John Wayne, and it's all about what it means to be a man, and what it means to be a married man, and how to stand up to bad guys.
00:27:42.000 It's a phenomenal, phenomenal movie.
00:27:44.000 It really is.
00:27:44.000 It's enjoyable.
00:27:45.000 Every frame of it, and it's beautifully filmed.
00:27:47.000 Great movie.
00:27:48.000 If you want something that puts you in a good mood, that would be it.
00:27:53.000 Okay.
00:27:53.000 Couple of entries from the mailbag.
00:27:55.000 We have to go a little bit shorter than usual today.
00:27:58.000 Sorry, folks.
00:27:58.000 I know you're disappointed, but don't worry.
00:28:00.000 Our crew is definitely happy about it.
00:28:02.000 A couple of things from the mailbag.
00:28:05.000 First of all, quick note to our subscribers.
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00:28:44.000 What, in your opinion, is the best way of going about expressing your political ideology?
00:29:08.000 Okay, so, James works in the tech industry, a notoriously left industry, and he's asking, The answer is, you may not be able to.
00:29:12.000 You just have to be smart about it.
00:29:23.000 Yeah, I think that most leftists, unfortunately, most leftists are fully imbued with a sense of unearned moral righteousness.
00:29:33.000 They are good people.
00:29:34.000 They are wonderful people.
00:29:35.000 They are the best people.
00:29:36.000 And if you cross them politically, that means that you are by nature a bad, terrible human being.
00:29:41.000 So your safest bet may be to keep your politics completely out of the way.
00:29:46.000 That's hard.
00:29:46.000 That's hard.
00:29:47.000 But what I've recommended to people is we have to understand that, especially in the tech industry in California, for example,
00:29:53.000 You're living in foreign territory, so you sort of have to keep it under wraps until you have enough power and enough acquaintances.
00:30:00.000 That nobody can mess with you.
00:30:01.000 So, just be smart about it.
00:30:02.000 Be strategic.
00:30:04.000 More important for you to keep your job, do well in life, use all your money, resources, and power to fight against what the left believes than to get fired now and then have to scrape together work.
00:30:14.000 That's not a smart solution.
00:30:15.000 Okay.
00:30:16.000 A couple more questions from the mailbag.
00:30:18.000 Jacob writes, Would you vote third party?
00:30:20.000 Libertarian, perhaps?
00:30:21.000 Will you stay home?
00:30:23.000 And do you think we'll ever get a true conservative on the ticket again?
00:30:26.000 Okay, I would vote for a third party, depending on who the candidate is.
00:30:29.000 Maybe libertarian, depends on who the candidate is.
00:30:32.000 Gary Johnson doesn't do very much for me, but let's say that Ted Cruz decided he was gonna shift over to the libertarian party and run against Trump just for the hell of it.
00:30:39.000 Let's say Ben Sasse did that, just to take advantage of the infrastructure.
00:30:43.000 Well, then I'd vote for him.
00:30:44.000 Do I think we'll ever get a true conservative on the ticket again?
00:30:47.000 I do.
00:30:47.000 I do, actually.
00:30:48.000 And I don't think it's that far off.
00:30:50.000 But I think that we have to hold fast to our principles.
00:30:53.000 Clay asks, Do you think that Trump is just a plant for Hillary Clinton?
00:30:57.000 I think that Trump's campaign is a ruse devised by the Clinton campaign.
00:31:00.000 I'd bet money Trump gets a fat check or the equivalent from the Clintons in the end.
00:31:03.000 No, I don't think that's right.
00:31:04.000 I think that Trump is stupid enough that you could get him to run just by playing to his ego.
00:31:10.000 But the problem is he's actually winning, so it's hard to say that he was stupid to run when he's actually going to win the nomination.
00:31:16.000 No, I don't think that he's a Clinton plant.
00:31:17.000 I think he's a Trump plant.
00:31:18.000 I think that Trump has planted Trump inside the political process to do what Trump could not achieve before, which is to benefit Trump.
00:31:25.000 Right?
00:31:25.000 Trump tried to bribe people.
00:31:27.000 That kind of worked, kind of didn't work.
00:31:29.000 Now he's just going to put Trump in office, and then he knows that Trump will work for Trump.
00:31:33.000 Daniel writes, you always describe yourself as a conservative.
00:31:36.000 You identify the positions you agree with as being the most conservative.
00:31:39.000 You and other conservatives define conservatism much in the same way libertarians define libertarianism.
00:31:44.000 Where is conservatism better than libertarianism?
00:31:47.000 Where does libertarianism fall short?
00:31:48.000 Okay, so there are two brands of libertarianism.
00:31:50.000 There's the isolationist brand of libertarianism that's pushed by some folks like Harry Brown and the Libertarian Party.
00:31:58.000 And then there's libertarianism that says we need a strong national defense.
00:32:01.000 Libertarianism with a strong national defense is basically my governmental philosophy.
00:32:05.000 One of the main quarrels I have with libertarianism is the social views of libertarians outside of government.
00:32:12.000 So it's not enough for many libertarians to just say the government shouldn't have any role in marriage.
00:32:16.000 They also say that there shouldn't be social institutions that push in favor of marriage because that defeats the libertarian ideal of all living as they see fit.
00:32:26.000 Well, you know, it turns out that, to me, you do need certain social ties that bind.
00:32:30.000 You need social institutions that shame and name.
00:32:33.000 You need ties that put us together, values that we share.
00:32:38.000 And libertarianism suggests the only value that we need to share is basically stay out of each other's way.
00:32:42.000 I agree, that is a very key value.
00:32:44.000 But there are other values we need to share or we can't even trust each other to stay out of each other's way.
00:32:48.000 Libertarianism, unfortunately, tends to collapse.
00:32:50.000 Into anarchy and then into leftism.
00:32:53.000 Because people tend to respond to anarchy with authoritarianism.
00:33:01.000 Well, I'll tell you where it started to go downhill for Marco Rubio.
00:33:04.000 He went wrong really in New Hampshire.
00:33:05.000 When he got pummeled by Chris Christie, that really hurt him pretty badly.
00:33:10.000 The truth is, he really went wrong in 2013 when he embraced amnesty.
00:33:13.000 When Marco Rubio embraced amnesty, he put himself on a collision course with the conservative base who don't like the Gang of Eight bill and who don't like amnesty.
00:33:22.000 So that's essentially where that comes from.
00:33:26.000 Final question for today.
00:33:27.000 Hmm.
00:33:27.000 Good question.
00:33:28.000 Good question.
00:33:28.000 Can I say eating non-kosher food?
00:33:39.000 Too scared to try?
00:33:40.000 Not scared is not the right thing.
00:33:41.000 It would violate my religious prescriptions to try non-kosher food, but I'll tell you, I go to a number of non-kosher restaurants with business contacts where I can't eat, and it does look spectacularly delicious.
00:33:53.000 Also, I think that if I had the guts, I would probably go skydiving, but I also have a brain, and that seems like a poor utilization of the noggin that I have.
00:34:03.000 All right, folks, we've reached the end of the week.
00:34:05.000 Sorry if today's episode was slightly shorter than usual, but we'll be back on Monday with plenty more for you.
00:34:11.000 Try not to ruin the world while we're away.
00:34:13.000 Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are doing a fine job of that on their own.
00:34:16.000 They don't need your help.
00:34:17.000 So behave yourselves.
00:34:19.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
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