The Ben Shapiro Show - Everybody In The Pool! | Ep. 895

00:00:00.000 Today on The Ben Shapiro Show, Deval Patrick thinks about tossing his hat into the ring, Trump plans his impeachment strategy, and the sports media, they're for political discussions, until they aren't.

00:00:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro, this is The Ben Shapiro Show.

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00:00:23.000 Okay, we got a ton to get to today.

00:00:25.000 There's a piece in The Atlantic that I really want to analyze about the possibility of the country coming apart.

00:00:29.000 It's by Yoni Applebaum.

00:00:30.000 It's a really interesting piece.

00:00:31.000 It's got some points to make, but I think it misses the core point, and we'll get to that in a little bit.

00:00:36.000 We'll also get to Rudy Giuliani's new strategy, which involves apparently doing a podcast.

00:00:41.000 I think Rudy would do an interesting podcast, but not on impeachment.

00:00:44.000 And not while his client is under investigation and not while he's under investigation.

00:00:49.000 We begin today, however, with some new polling data in the Democratic presidential race.

00:00:49.000 We'll get to all of that.

00:00:54.000 So according to the RealClearPolitics polling average, Joe Biden continues to lead in the Democratic presidential primary race by about seven points.

00:01:01.000 He's about six, seven points on Elizabeth Warren.

00:01:04.000 Followed by Bernie Sanders in the national numbers.

00:01:07.000 In the Iowa numbers, Warren is up about four points on Buttigieg, followed by Sanders, followed by Biden.

00:01:12.000 So in the RealClearPolitics polling average, Biden has fallen to fourth in Iowa, although his organization has really yet to make itself felt.

00:01:21.000 In New Hampshire, however, there's a poll in New Hampshire that is a little bit more telling.

00:01:24.000 You would expect that in New Hampshire, you would have a runaway for Warren and Sanders, right?

00:01:29.000 I mean, they are from neighboring states.

00:01:30.000 Sanders is from Vermont.

00:01:31.000 Elizabeth Warren is from Massachusetts.

00:01:34.000 And yet, the latest poll from New Hampshire has Joe Biden in the lead in New Hampshire.

00:01:38.000 If Joe Biden wins New Hampshire, he wins the nomination.

00:01:40.000 Because the fact is, at that point, the Democrats have failed to blunt his momentum, and he will move forward into states that he's actually leading in the polls.

00:01:46.000 He's leading in Nevada.

00:01:47.000 He's leading in South Carolina.

00:01:48.000 He's leading across the South.

00:01:50.000 So, if Joe Biden were to win one of the first two contests, he's pretty much guaranteed the nomination.

00:01:54.000 And this shows that Elizabeth Warren is not quite as durable as people are making her out to be this early on In the race.

00:02:01.000 And remember, we still are really early on in the race, guys.

00:02:03.000 I mean, not a single primary has been held.

00:02:05.000 We are months away from the first primary being held.

00:02:07.000 And Elizabeth Warren is only starting to feel now the sort of blowback on her bad policy positions and what is, in fact, a very rigid and weak candidacy when exposed to the light. 0.98

00:02:20.000 Well, according to Quinnipiac, the latest Quinnipiac survey of New Hampshire finds Biden at 20 percent, followed by Warren at 16, Buttigieg at 15, and Sanders at 14 percent.

00:02:27.000 Buttigieg's big hope here is that he somehow pulls out Iowa, and this spurs him to victory in New Hampshire, and then he's off to the races.

00:02:33.000 Still unlikely that he wins the nomination at that point.

00:02:36.000 If Buttigieg were to take the first two states, there is a very solid shot that Biden ends up winning the nomination simply because Buttigieg has no black support whatsoever.

00:02:43.000 He has not consolidated any.

00:02:44.000 Warren seems to be eating a little bit into those numbers from Biden, but not enough for her to actually provide the overall consistent threat that would oust him from the race.

00:02:52.000 The Quinnipiac Survey of Iowa released last week similarly found a four-candidate crunch at the top about three months out from the first ballots being cast.

00:03:00.000 Quinnipiac pollster Tim Malloy said, New Hampshire has mountains, Iowa has plains.

00:03:04.000 They couldn't be more different except for the results of the last two Quinnipiac University polls, which both show four candidates in the top tier.

00:03:10.000 Although Biden has a slight lead in the Granite State, it's far from rock solid, and both states are clearly up for grabs.

00:03:15.000 Well, this is kind of reminiscent of the polling data leading up to the 2016 nomination for the Republicans, in which Donald Trump was right near the top in Iowa, but he wasn't at the top in Iowa.

00:03:25.000 And then he was at the top in New Hampshire, but not by some huge amount.

00:03:28.000 He ends up coming in second in Iowa.

00:03:30.000 And then he ends up blowing out the field in New Hampshire after Marco Rubio's collapsed because the person who actually won Iowa, Ted Cruz, had no shot in New Hampshire.

00:03:37.000 You could see something similar happen here with somebody, say, like Pete Buttigieg.

00:03:41.000 A strong majority of voters, 61%, said they could still change their minds before Election 14% said they are completely undecided at the moment.

00:03:50.000 Among independent or undeclared voters in New Hampshire who say they're likely to vote in the Democratic primary, Biden leads at 16%, followed by Sanders and Buttigieg at 14%, Warren and Gabbard at 10%.

00:03:59.000 Biden also leads among registered Democrats who expect to vote on primary day with 25% followed by Warren very close at 24%, Buttigieg at 16%, Sanders at 14%.

00:04:08.000 Sanders has the firmest, most enthusiastic base of support in New Hampshire.

00:04:12.000 57% of Sanders backers say their mind is made up and they will definitely vote for him.

00:04:15.000 The next closest is Biden at 43% followed by Warren at 29% and Buttigieg at 24%.

00:04:22.000 So this thing is a highly contested race.

00:04:25.000 I mean, this thing is really up for grabs.

00:04:27.000 Right now, Joe Biden continues to lead in the black vote, and this is a problem for his competitors.

00:04:33.000 I mean, the fact is that when you get to the southern states, a majority of the electorate in states like South Carolina in the Democratic primaries is black.

00:04:39.000 So it's going to be very difficult for Elizabeth Warren or Pete Buttigieg to win that state if Biden continues to retain these sorts of numbers. 0.86

00:04:45.000 The Washington Post has a piece about this today.

00:04:47.000 State Representative Crystal Simmons, one of two black women elected to the South Carolina legislature last year and a supporter of Senator Bernie Sanders, has been perfecting her pitch to the droves of African Americans who tell her they love former Vice President Joe Biden.

00:04:59.000 Tell me what you like about Joe Biden.

00:05:01.000 The only rule you can't say is Obama.

00:05:03.000 Simmons tells them.

00:05:04.000 They get mad when I do that.

00:05:05.000 But of course, that is exactly why Joe Biden is popular, right?

00:05:07.000 He was Obama's VP for two terms.

00:05:09.000 You would assume that that would have some hangover impact with regards to the electorate.

00:05:13.000 In fact, that's his entire pitch.

00:05:14.000 If you were still Senator from Delaware, nobody would care.

00:05:16.000 You'd just be running another quixotic campaign for the presidency.

00:05:20.000 The fact that he was Obama's VP is effectively his entire pitch.

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00:06:30.000 Okay, so as the Washington Post points out, The Sanders is working frantically to narrow Biden's commanding lead among South Carolina's African-Americans, who make up just under two-thirds of the state's Democratic voters, which is a huge number.

00:06:44.000 Rather than attack Biden directly, his rivals are mostly deploying tactics that include church visits and tailgate parties, holding private conversations, teaming up with young influencers who can spread the word.

00:06:53.000 Warren, Sanders, and Buttigieg have each faced obstacles attracting support from Black voters, a challenge that has been apparent as each has drawn increasingly large and excited, albeit mostly white crowds, to campaign events.

00:07:02.000 Biden has held a wide lead in South Carolina since he entered the race, the beneficiary of wide name recognition, decades of trips to South Carolina, and a stamp of approval earned serving in the White House under Barack Obama.

00:07:13.000 Warren is trying to appeal to black women.

00:07:14.000 It's not really succeeding.

00:07:16.000 Buttigieg and Sanders are aiming at younger activists.

00:07:18.000 That's not really succeeding, and that means that Biden has a commanding lead among black voters in the Democratic primaries, which is exactly the coalition you need in order to win the nomination.

00:07:25.000 This is why Barack Obama was the 2008 nominee and why Hillary Clinton was the 2016 nominee.

00:07:29.000 She had much more black support than did Bernie Sanders, who actually won among white voters in 2016.

00:07:33.000 Well, the problem is that if you are a top-line, top-of-the-party Democrat, and you look at this field, And you're saying, OK, on the one hand, you got radical Elizabeth Warren.

00:07:44.000 On the other hand, you have very, very old Joe Biden.

00:07:47.000 I mean, he looks old.

00:07:48.000 He feels old.

00:07:49.000 He feels like he is not solid.

00:07:50.000 He feels like he is not in command.

00:07:52.000 You look at that field and you go, oh, this field is really, really flawed.

00:07:56.000 And that feeling grows when you realize that the next several weeks are going to be a referendum on Hunter and Joe Biden, because as the impeachment effort moves forward against President Trump, The Republicans are going to respond by pointing out that it wasn't illegitimate for Trump to ask about Hunter Biden because Hunter Biden and Joe Biden may in fact have been engaged in corruption.

00:08:13.000 And if you're concerned about Ukrainian corruption, then you would want Ukraine to investigate corruption happening inside their own country.

00:08:20.000 This is why it doesn't really help that Hunter and Joe have been dragged into the middle of this for the Democrats' 2020 hopes.

00:08:25.000 So you have Jill Biden who's out there saying that Hunter and Joe shouldn't be forced to testify.

00:08:29.000 Never a good sign for your candidacy when the subject of an impeachment inquiry wants you to testify.

00:08:34.000 You know, this, I think, has been, Donald Trump, this plays right into his hands because this, for him, he's trying to distract the voters.

00:08:43.000 You know, what Donald Trump did was wrong.

00:08:46.000 Flat out wrong.

00:08:48.000 Calling a foreign leader and asking them, you know, and holding back foreign aid unless he investigated my husband and my son.

00:08:56.000 You know, that is just flat out wrong.

00:08:58.000 And I think that the American people see that.

00:09:00.000 I think the people in Congress see that.

00:09:04.000 And they're going to stand up to him.

00:09:05.000 Okay, never a good look for the Biden campaign.

00:09:07.000 And then you look at the other candidates in the race.

00:09:10.000 And they are similarly not great.

00:09:12.000 You got Elizabeth Warren, who continues to make her pitch basically Bernie Sanders, but nastier and more vicious. 0.99

00:09:18.000 I mean, I'm not sure how to characterize her talk about billionaires other than that way, right?

00:09:23.000 Here is Elizabeth Warren mocking billionaires.

00:09:25.000 Again, if you're a billionaire in the United States, it's not because you confiscated wealth from anybody else.

00:09:29.000 It's because you involved yourself in an enormous number of consensual transactions that bettered both parties.

00:09:36.000 The fact that Elizabeth Warren has basically made her platform ripping on rich people when she's worth $12 million says a lot.

00:09:40.000 Here's Elizabeth Warren being a radical. 1.00

00:09:43.000 Maybe you've heard, there are some billionaires who don't like this.

00:09:49.000 Yes, they've been interviewed on TV, I've noticed lately.

00:09:52.000 So sad!

00:09:54.000 So sad! 1.00

00:09:59.000 Okay, this is such nasty garbage. 0.99

00:10:12.000 I mean, we went through, on yesterday's show, at length, her wealth tax proposal, which is a complete, unworkable fiasco. 0.99

00:10:18.000 I mean, it's a joke of a proposal.

00:10:19.000 It would obviously have significant impact on the stock market.

00:10:22.000 It would force people to liquidate businesses.

00:10:23.000 It would force wealth to flee the country.

00:10:25.000 How do we know this?

00:10:25.000 Because everywhere else it's been tried.

00:10:26.000 This is exactly what has happened.

00:10:28.000 Warren is very off-putting.

00:10:30.000 She is. 0.56

00:10:31.000 There are other Democratic women who are not as off-putting.

00:10:33.000 Amy Klobuchar, not as off-putting.

00:10:36.000 Tulsi Gabbard, not as off-putting.

00:10:37.000 Elizabeth Warren is very off-putting. 1.00

00:10:39.000 She was off-putting when she was at Harvard Law School.

00:10:41.000 This idea that it is sexist to point out that she's personally sort of off-putting.

00:10:46.000 Sorry, that's the way it is.

00:10:47.000 And that ain't sexist.

00:10:48.000 There are plenty of males who are off-putting as well.

00:10:50.000 We can name them.

00:10:51.000 There were many in the 2016 Republican primaries who are very off-putting. 0.97

00:10:55.000 Chris Christie is an off-putting human being. 0.93

00:10:57.000 There are lots of off-putting human beings. 0.97

00:10:58.000 Elizabeth Warren happens to number among them.

00:11:00.000 The way she's fighting back against that accusation is saying that if you even question whether she is the kindest, generous, most wonderful person, the person you'd want to have a beer with, which just sounds awful, then this means you're a sexist.

00:11:12.000 She put out a statement yesterday saying, over and over, we are told that women are not allowed to be angry. 0.62

00:11:17.000 It makes us unattractive to powerful men who want us to be quiet.

00:11:20.000 No, you're allowed to be angry, but we're also allowed to react to your anger by saying, lady, we have a 3.6% unemployment rate.

00:11:27.000 You're worth $12 million.

00:11:28.000 You came, according to your own story, from nothing.

00:11:31.000 What exactly are you whining about?

00:11:33.000 She says, it's not just women. 1.00

00:11:35.000 When we speak up against Wall Street and big tech, when we make our voices heard against injustice and greed, we are told everyone who has less power should be quiet.

00:11:42.000 No, you can talk as much as you want.

00:11:43.000 In fact, continue talking, Elizabeth Warren.

00:11:45.000 I would prefer that she continue talking.

00:11:47.000 She says, this fight isn't really about anger or emotion or civility.

00:11:50.000 It's about power.

00:11:51.000 Those who have it and those who don't plan to let it go.

00:11:53.000 She's a Harvard Law professor living in the lap of luxury worth $12 million, receiving endless, endless accolades from a drooling media.

00:12:01.000 But don't worry, she is not powerful.

00:12:03.000 She's not powerful. 0.99

00:12:04.000 She's one of you.

00:12:05.000 She's one of the people.

00:12:06.000 She says, well, I am angry and I own it.

00:12:10.000 This is so tiresome.

00:12:11.000 It is supremely tiresome!

00:12:13.000 Because I'm angry on behalf of everyone who was hurt by Trump's government.

00:12:17.000 Okay, so, is that the candidate Democrats want?

00:12:19.000 So you got Biden, who is basically doddering around like Weekend at Bernie's.

00:12:24.000 He's effectively a political corpse being wheeled around with a giant Obama sign around his neck. 0.56

00:12:28.000 And then you've got Elizabeth Warren, who's deeply off-putting and proposes plans that are just absurd and insane. 0.98

00:12:35.000 And then you got Bernie Sanders, who's a full-on kook.

00:12:37.000 Bernie Sanders put out a piece today called How to Fight Antisemitism.

00:12:40.000 Now, I definitely, as an Orthodox Jew, somebody who has a real stake in fighting antisemitism, I definitely want to hear from the guy who is endorsed by Ilhan Omar and Linda Sarsour.

00:12:50.000 And who has embraced the most radical left positions it is possible to take on the state of Israel, including the idea that you should condition American aid to Israel on Israel giving money to Hamas, an actual terrorist group.

00:13:02.000 This is something he said.

00:13:02.000 He said that the United States should withdraw aid from Israel and give it instead to the quote-unquote Gaza Strip, which happens to be run by a terrorist group called Hamas.

00:13:09.000 I definitely want to hear about antisemitism from Bernie Sanders, an avowed agnostic slash atheist who has no relationship to Judaism, or really anything related to Judaism, but he knows how to fight antisemitism.

00:13:20.000 He has this piece in jewishcurrents.org, which is one of these lefty Jewish websites. 0.56

00:13:27.000 And the piece is just an absurdity.

00:13:29.000 It's an absurdity.

00:13:30.000 And this is the other alternative.

00:13:32.000 He says,

00:13:58.000 Yes, President Donald Trump's own words helped inspire the worst act of anti-Semitic violence in American history.

00:14:04.000 So now he's blaming Trump for the Tree of Life massacre.

00:14:07.000 I wonder, who's responsible for the attempted shooting of congressional baseball players?

00:14:11.000 Congressional Republicans playing baseball on a softball field.

00:14:14.000 Who's responsible for that, Bernie Sanders?

00:14:16.000 It seems like that guy was quoting you.

00:14:18.000 So if we're gonna play this game, then you got some blood to answer for yourself.

00:14:23.000 I mean, if this is the new standard.

00:14:25.000 But don't worry, the piece gets worse.

00:14:27.000 He says, Right, like every other Jew. 1.00

00:14:34.000 He has family members who were killed in the Holocaust.

00:14:35.000 This is true of every Jew. 0.94

00:14:37.000 This does not grant you absolute license to hand over your foreign policy to actual, honest-to-God, day-to-day anti-Semites like Ilhan Omar, which is exactly what he has done.

00:14:46.000 He says, I'm not someone who spends a lot of time talking about my personal background because I believe political leaders should focus their attention on a vision and agenda for others rather than themselves.

00:14:53.000 But I also appreciate it's important to talk about how our backgrounds have informed our ideas, our principles, and our values.

00:14:58.000 And then he talks about how he's a proud Jewish American, which is the first time I've heard him mention this, by the way.

00:15:03.000 He doesn't really talk about it a lot because, again, his relationship with Judaism is strained at best.

00:15:08.000 And then he talks about his father immigrating from Poland to the United States in 1921, and he talks about his family being slaughtered by the Nazis, which, of course, is true, as I say, for virtually every Jew has relatives whose extended family was slaughtered in Europe.

00:15:21.000 He says, The New York Police Department reported in September that anti-Semitic hate crimes in New York City have risen by more than 63% in 2019 and make up more than half of all reported hate crimes.

00:15:21.000 And then he gets to the point.

00:15:47.000 Just last week, on November 4th, we learned that federal authorities had arrested a man in Colorado they believe was involved in a plot to bomb one of the state's oldest synagogues.

00:15:55.000 This wave of violence is the result of a dangerous political ideology that targets Jews and anyone who does not fit a narrow vision of whites-only America.

00:16:01.000 Okay, so, a couple of things. 0.71

00:16:03.000 One, he is correct that there are white supremacists and anti-Semites. 0.57

00:16:05.000 I know.

00:16:06.000 I mean, earlier this year, one of them was arrested for threatening me and my family by the FBI.

00:16:11.000 So yes, I am very, very well aware of these people.

00:16:14.000 In fact, I speak about them publicly.

00:16:16.000 I'm very, very well aware of white supremacists and their antisemitism. 0.94

00:16:19.000 However, to suggest that that is the only threat to Jews in America is absurd.

00:16:22.000 He himself cites the New York Police Department statistics on hate crimes against Jews rising 63% in 2019.

00:16:29.000 Not a single one of those hate crimes has been linked to a white supremacist.

00:16:33.000 Not a single one.

00:16:34.000 The New York City police have said that uptick is happening in non-white communities, demographically speaking.

00:16:43.000 So, he is just ignoring a large portion of antisemitism in the United States because it doesn't fit his agenda.

00:16:49.000 Because he would prefer to side with, you know, actual antisemites.

00:16:51.000 People like, again, Ilhan Omar and Linda Sarsour, both of whom have endorsed Bernie Sanders. 1.00

00:16:55.000 We'll get to more of this absurdity because Bernie Sanders is a crazy old kook who just says ridiculous things and happens to be a damn liar on this particular issue. 0.99

00:17:02.000 We'll get to more of that in one second. 0.99

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00:18:11.000 Okay, so to continue with this idiotic Bernie Sanders piece... 1.00

00:18:14.000 He says, The wave of violence is the result of a dangerous political ideology that targets Jews and anyone who does not fit a narrow vision of a whites-only America. 0.99

00:18:21.000 We have to be clear that while anti-Semitism is a threat to Jews everywhere, it is also a threat to democratic governance itself.

00:18:27.000 The anti-Semites who marched in Charlottesville don't just hate Jews, they hate the idea of multiracial democracy, they hate the idea of political equality, they hate immigrants, people of color, LGBTQ people, Women and anyone else who stands in the way of a whites-only America.

00:18:38.000 So watch what the trick, the trick that Sanders is playing here, is he says anti-Semitism is not unique.

00:18:43.000 It is not a unique type of hatred that spans the political horizon.

00:18:47.000 Instead, it is just a subset of white supremacist racism.

00:18:50.000 That's the only type of anti-Semitism they should focus on.

00:18:52.000 That way he can still ally with people of color who happen to be vicious anti-Semites, like Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar, both of whom endorse Sanders.

00:19:00.000 He says, this is the conspiracy theory that drove the Pittsburgh murder, that Jews are conspiring to bring immigrants into the country to replace Americans, and it is important to understand that this is what antisemitism is.

00:19:10.000 A conspiracy theory that a secretly powerful minority exercises control over society.

00:19:14.000 That's true, what he is saying.

00:19:16.000 I mean, like, if somebody were to say, it's all about the Benjamins.

00:19:19.000 If somebody were to say that Congress is basically a Zionist-controlled entity.

00:19:24.000 If somebody were to say that Israeli lobbyists control Congress.

00:19:28.000 Or that Israel hypnotizes the world, right? 0.97

00:19:30.000 It might fall in that category.

00:19:32.000 And then they might endorse Bernie Sanders, because those are all basically paraphrases of Ilhan Omar.

00:19:36.000 He says, like other forms of bigotry, antisemitism is used by the right to divide people from one another and prevents us from fighting together for a shared future of equality, peace, prosperity, and environmental justice.

00:19:45.000 Again, playing that trick of subsuming antisemitism under the rhetoric of broader anti-discrimination, which of course is a lie.

00:19:51.000 You know, Tolstoy famously suggested at the beginning of Anna Karenina that happy families are all happy in the same way, unhappy families are all unhappy in different ways.

00:20:00.000 Okay, well the fact is that not all racisms are the same.

00:20:04.000 Meaning they're all evil.

00:20:05.000 They're all wrong.

00:20:06.000 But they have different components to them.

00:20:08.000 And treating antisemitism the same way you would treat anti-black racism is a category error.

00:20:12.000 They're not the same.

00:20:13.000 They have different people who promote them.

00:20:15.000 Not exactly the same thing.

00:20:17.000 He says, opposing antisemitism is a core value of progressivism, which is of course why he's hanging out with Linda Sarsour.

00:20:22.000 He says, it's very troubling to me that we are also seeing accusations of antisemitism used as a cynical political weapon against progressives.

00:20:29.000 Ah, so if you mentioned Ilhan Omar, now you're misusing antisemitism, says Bernie Sanders.

00:20:34.000 One of the most dangerous things Trump has done is to divide Americans by using false allegations of antisemitism, mostly regarding the US-Israel relationship.

00:20:41.000 We should be very clear, it is not antisemitic to criticize the policies of the Israeli government.

00:20:45.000 Okay, that's true.

00:20:46.000 But it is antisemitic to suggest that Israel hypnotizes the world, or to suggest that boycott, divestment, and sanctions from Israel is justified while maintaining that, for example, there should not be sanctions on Iran, or Egypt, or Jordan, or Venezuela, or Turkey, which is exactly what Ilhan Omar has done.

00:21:03.000 And then he suggests that truly fighting antisemitism means standing up for a Palestinian state, which is a very weird, very weird move.

00:21:13.000 So the idea, I guess, here, Is what?

00:21:16.000 That unless you kowtow to actual Palestinian terrorists who are in charge of the Gaza Strip. 0.67

00:21:20.000 And by the way, the Palestinian Authority, literally just like the PA head, Mahmoud Abbas, just paid tribute to six, to a family that had six members of the family who were terrorists like two days ago.

00:21:31.000 Unless you kowtow to them, you're an anti-Semite, according to Bernie Sanders, which is a weird take.

00:21:36.000 So basically, the way to fight anti-Semitism is to side with Ilhan Omar, Linda Sarsour, and to rip into Israel on a dedicated, consistent basis.

00:21:45.000 He says that he says my pride and admiration for Israel lives alongside my support for Palestinian freedom and independence.

00:21:51.000 I reject the notion there's any contradiction there.

00:21:53.000 I mean there isn't so long as the Palestinians were to be led by you know people who actually care about freedom and independence as opposed to murdering Jews wholesale.

00:22:00.000 He has yet to find that leadership.

00:22:03.000 He says, the forces fomenting anti-Semitism are the forces arrayed against oppressed people around the world, including Palestinians.

00:22:08.000 The struggle against anti-Semitism is also the struggle for Palestinian freedom.

00:22:12.000 Okay, that one you're gonna have to show your work there.

00:22:14.000 My goodness.

00:22:15.000 The struggle against anti-Semitism is also the struggle for Palestinian freedom.

00:22:20.000 Literally, if you go to Israel and you drive on the road to Hebron, Hey, there's signs on the road.

00:22:27.000 And the signs will show you a black arrow if you stay on the road, like, keep driving straight, and then there's a red arrow if you go off the side of the road.

00:22:32.000 There's a big red sign.

00:22:33.000 Since this area is governed by the Palestinian Authority, it is dangerous and we cannot guarantee your safety. 1.00

00:22:37.000 Because if you drive in there with an Israeli license plate, they will pull you out of your car, and there's a good shot you get killed. 1.00

00:22:42.000 So let me get this straight.

00:22:44.000 Fighting anti-Semitism requires what?

00:22:46.000 Giving authority to Hamas and the Palestinian Authority?

00:22:48.000 That's exactly what Sanders is.

00:22:50.000 So this is the other Democratic candidate?

00:22:52.000 So you got Bernie Sanders, who's a full-on nutjob, who is supported by Ilhan Omar and Linda Sarsour, but says he's fighting anti-Semitism.

00:23:00.000 And then you've got Joe Biden, old slow Joe.

00:23:03.000 And then you've got Pete Buttigieg, who is Hyper-articulate.

00:23:07.000 I mean, he's good at what he does.

00:23:09.000 The problem is that when Matt slips, he's just as radical as any of these other cats.

00:23:13.000 I mean, he will spend his time ripping on anybody who believes traditionally in the Bible and suggest that Pastor Pete is going to teach all of us about how to get to heaven by ignoring large swaths of the Old and New Testaments, which is exciting stuff.

00:23:25.000 So that's your field.

00:23:26.000 And this is how you get to Deval Patrick saying he's going to throw his hat in the ring.

00:23:30.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:24:39.000 In the midst of all this, Democrats increasingly are going, OK, this field stinks.

00:24:43.000 And this is why Michael Bloomberg said that maybe he's going to jump in.

00:24:46.000 And now you've got former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick, who's apparently considering a presidential run.

00:24:52.000 According to NECN.com, former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick is exploring a late run for president, according to people with knowledge of Patrick's deliberation, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

00:25:04.000 Patrick would need to decide soon because the deadline for candidates to get their names on the ballot is rapidly approaching in some states, including New Hampshire, the first in the nation.

00:25:11.000 Patrick ruled out a run earlier this year.

00:25:13.000 He has since been talking with Democratic operatives and donors about launching a campaign.

00:25:18.000 Patrick served as governor of Massachusetts from 2007 to 2015.

00:25:20.000 He has not yet made a final decision on whether to run.

00:25:25.000 New York Times first reported Patrick's deliberations.

00:25:29.000 In December, he said he was not going to run because he said that it would create a negative process for his family.

00:25:36.000 His wife, Diane, apparently struggled with her husband's transition into public life in 2006, though he said last year she had encouraged him to make the run.

00:25:43.000 He would be competing against Elizabeth Warren.

00:25:45.000 He's very, very closely allied with Barack Obama.

00:25:48.000 In fact, a few years back, there were a lot of accusations that Barack Obama was cribbing off of Deval Patrick's homework because a lot of Deval Patrick's lines were hijacked by Obama and then used.

00:25:58.000 Very famously, Barack Obama Quoted a speech by Deval Patrick.

00:26:03.000 Patrick gave a speech in 2006 for governor in which he did this routine about words.

00:26:07.000 He said, don't tell me words don't matter.

00:26:08.000 I have a dream, just words.

00:26:10.000 We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, just words.

00:26:13.000 That's what Obama said.

00:26:15.000 And Patrick had said the exact same thing the same year.

00:26:17.000 And Barack Obama just ripped him off, just ripped him off.

00:26:19.000 And that was in one of his speeches.

00:26:23.000 I can't remember which one it was in 2008.

00:26:24.000 So he just ripped off Deval Patrick wholesale.

00:26:28.000 He'd done that a few times.

00:26:29.000 And he suggested repeatedly that they had sort of traded rhetoric with one another.

00:26:34.000 So Obama is very close to Patrick, which definitely cuts in Patrick's favor.

00:26:39.000 The problem for Deval Patrick is that he is not popular on the left and he is certainly not popular among moderates.

00:26:44.000 So on the left, the Huffington Post has a hit piece on Patrick today by Zack Carter talking about how he was a foreclosure mogul.

00:26:53.000 The sub-headline is how the 2020 Democratic presidential contender helped a Republican billionaire rip off the middle class It says, what makes Patrick a Democrat and extremely effective messenger for a fundamentally conservative idea?

00:27:04.000 What I feel we often describe as income inequality is a shorthand for economic mobility, he once told a think tank crowd, which sounds fine to me, except that's not what he is saying now.

00:27:12.000 Patrick has plenty of political assets, but the support from Barack Obama is the chief reason that Patrick is being mentioned as a top 2020 contender in the Democratic Party.

00:27:23.000 Because, as this columnist says, told from a different angle, Patrick's biography isn't an uplifting rags to riches story, but an ugly tale of corruption among the American power elite.

00:27:32.000 Patrick didn't just make a lot of money.

00:27:34.000 He made a lot of money helping a Republican billionaire rip off the black middle class.

00:27:38.000 He talks about this story.

00:27:39.000 In 2005, President George W. Bush nominated Republican Party mega-donor Roland Arnall to serve as ambassadors to the Netherlands.

00:27:46.000 Arnall, his wife, and the companies they controlled were the biggest contributors to Bush over the previous three years, spending over a million bucks on his second inauguration.

00:27:52.000 Ambassadorships are frequently dispensed to big donors, but Arnall had no diplomatic experience.

00:27:57.000 The appointment looked bad enough that a few senators, including Barack Obama, cried foul, but Arnall got help from an unlikely source.

00:28:04.000 Patrick and Arnall got to know each other in 1996, when Patrick was helming the Civil Rights Division at the DOJ.

00:28:09.000 Arnall was running Long Beach Mortgage Company, which the DOJ was investigating for racial discrimination in the subprime lending market.

00:28:15.000 The DOJ and Long Beach eventually reached a $4 million settlement.

00:28:19.000 When Arnall came up for ambassadorship, Patrick wrote to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to heap praise on Arnall.

00:28:24.000 The billionaire was a good man, Patrick wrote, and Arnall's AmeriQuest was a good company.

00:28:28.000 He said that Arnall had stepped forward after the settlement.

00:28:31.000 He said he used the experience to make a better company.

00:28:34.000 According to Huffington Post, this was not true.

00:28:36.000 Apparently, according to New York Times business columnist Joe Nocera, the AmeriQuest became the world's largest subprime lender and it was notorious.

00:28:46.000 And apparently Deval Patrick was making about $360,000 a year working for AmeriQuest.

00:28:51.000 He joined the company's board in 2004, lending his credibility as a former civil rights attorney to both the company's operation and the public image of its founder.

00:28:58.000 So expect that to come up.

00:28:59.000 Expect the fact that while Deval Patrick was governor, he was involved in a wide variety of bad activities.

00:29:08.000 Howie Carr, the radio host in Boston, called Deval Patrick the worst governor in Massachusetts history.

00:29:14.000 Why, well, he called out the fact that the New England Compounding Center in Framingham, regulated by the Department of Public Health, had done such a terrible job that 64 people died.

00:29:22.000 He talked about thousands of criminal drug cases compromised at the state crime lab.

00:29:26.000 He promised to cut real estate property taxes, then didn't do it.

00:29:29.000 He bungled the Obamacare website that cost the state 70 million bucks.

00:29:33.000 He increased the state sales tax by 25%.

00:29:34.000 He instituted sales taxes on alcohol, which already had an excise tax, so he was taxing the tax.

00:29:41.000 The unemployment rate was higher under Deval Patrick than it was above the national average.

00:29:45.000 Described the 9-11 terror attacks as, quote, a failure of human beings to understand each other and to learn to love each other.

00:29:51.000 Tried to push through a $2 billion tax increase the year before he left office.

00:29:55.000 So there's some serious questions to be asked about Deval Patrick.

00:29:58.000 How does that shake up the race, however?

00:30:00.000 Well, I mean, the fact is if Deval Patrick seems to be chomping into Joe Biden's black support in states like South Carolina, Elizabeth Warren probably becomes the nominee, unless you were to gain so much momentum that he takes the nomination himself.

00:30:10.000 That's a serious issue for the Democrats, as Deval Patrick possibly jumps into the race.

00:30:16.000 Okay, in just a second, I want to discuss a fascinating piece in The Atlantic about the country coming apart, because we can all sense it, right?

00:30:22.000 We can all sense this feeling that the country is starting to Fracture in a serious and irreconcilable way.

00:30:29.000 And there is an entire issue in the Atlantic about how America is coming to power.

00:30:33.000 Yoni Applebaum has a piece about it.

00:30:33.000 Can we hold together?

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00:32:43.000 So as I say, The Atlantic has a big issue coming out called How to Stop a Civil War.

00:32:54.000 Suffice it to say, they don't know the answer.

00:32:56.000 But there is an interesting piece from Yoni Applebaum called How America Ends.

00:33:02.000 A tectonic demographic shift is underway, is the subtitle.

00:33:05.000 Can the country hold together?

00:33:06.000 And it's a fascinating piece because he basically suggests that the big thing that is driving American disunity at this point is the demographic shift.

00:33:16.000 The fact that America is becoming less white is really his argument. 0.66

00:33:20.000 He says, Trump's apocalyptic rhetoric matches the tenor of the times.

00:33:23.000 The body politic is more fractious than at any time in recent memory.

00:33:26.000 Over the past 25 years, both red and blue areas have become more deeply hewed, with Democrats clustering in cities and suburbs, and Republicans filling in rural areas and exurbs.

00:33:35.000 In Congress, where the two caucuses once overlapped ideologically, the dividing aisle has turned into a chasm.

00:33:41.000 And then he talks about how Americans dislike each other more and more, don't want their friends and family.

00:33:48.000 Marrying members of the opposite political party, for example.

00:33:52.000 And he says, what has caused such rancor?

00:33:53.000 The stresses of a globalizing post-industrial economy, growing economic inequality, the hyperbolizing, hyperbolizing force of social media, geographic sorting, the democratic provocations of the president himself as in murder on the Orient Express.

00:34:06.000 Every suspect has had a hand in the crime.

00:34:08.000 But the biggest driver, says Yoni Applebaum, might be demographic change.

00:34:11.000 The United States is undergoing a transition perhaps no rich and stable democracy has ever experienced.

00:34:15.000 Its historically dominant group is on its way to becoming a political minority, and its minority groups are asserting their co-equal rights and interests.

00:34:22.000 Okay, now here is where Applebaum starts to miss the point.

00:34:26.000 If it were just about members of minority groups asserting their co-equal rights and interests, I don't think there'd be a huge argument here.

00:34:32.000 I mean, everyone of good heart is in favor of things that ending Jim Crow was a very, very good thing, for example. 0.87

00:34:39.000 Nobody wants discrimination.

00:34:41.000 By the government, enshrined in law.

00:34:42.000 Nobody is in favor of that.

00:34:43.000 Nobody likes racism.

00:34:46.000 But what he is basically saying, and this is where he misses the point, is he suggests that the real reason that all this is happening is white people are pissed that non-white people are going to become the demographic majority at some point in the next 20 to 30 years in the United States.

00:34:58.000 Now, as I've said on the program and elsewhere, I don't care about the skin color of people in the country. 0.98

00:35:03.000 I don't.

00:35:04.000 I don't care whether the majority is white. 0.75

00:35:05.000 I don't care whether the majority is brown. 0.99

00:35:06.000 That doesn't make any difference to me.

00:35:08.000 I care about the ideology of the majority.

00:35:10.000 I care about the philosophy of the individuals who compose the majority.

00:35:14.000 I don't think we ought to think of Americans as various groups of voter blocs.

00:35:18.000 Black voter blocs and Hispanic voter blocs.

00:35:20.000 I think that every American is an individual.

00:35:22.000 I thought that was one of the bases of the Declaration of Independence.

00:35:25.000 And the Constitution of the United States.

00:35:27.000 And yet what the left has done, and this is where they're missing the point, what the left has done is they've made exactly this argument.

00:35:32.000 That basically, the story of America is a story of a white majority cramming down its patriarchal assertions on minority groups, and the story of the last half century is those minority groups now fighting back, in effect, to establish their rights.

00:35:48.000 That's not really true.

00:35:50.000 That's not really true.

00:35:51.000 The story of America is about excellent and eternal founding principles, which were not lived up to by the founders or by generations of Americans, and the gradual imposition of those principles more and more broadly over time.

00:36:02.000 That means that we're all part of the same story.

00:36:03.000 But the story that Applebaum is telling is a different story.

00:36:05.000 He's telling a story where there's basically a powerful majority that is now being overthrown by a powerful minority, which is becoming a majority.

00:36:13.000 And so the majority is just going to have to get used to becoming a minority.

00:36:16.000 Well, what happens to the idea that we're all part of one country and that we hold similar principles?

00:36:20.000 That's where the fusion lies.

00:36:22.000 That's the only thing that's going to hold together the country.

00:36:25.000 I'm working on a book right now all about the disintegration of the country, and one of the things that I assert is that the only way a country can last is if the nation believes that it has a common history and culture and language.

00:36:38.000 And the left has been forcibly disabusing Americans of this notion, saying that we don't have a common history, right?

00:36:44.000 America wasn't founded in 1776, it was founded in 1619.

00:36:47.000 That we don't have a constitutional culture.

00:36:48.000 Free speech is just a tool of the patriarchy.

00:36:51.000 Free speech is actually not about each individual citizen being able to speak freely.

00:36:55.000 It's really about the powerful cramming down their interests on everybody else.

00:37:00.000 Language itself has been twisted this way.

00:37:02.000 We assert that the rules of linguistic use have to change because the majority has been using language to its own advantage.

00:37:09.000 Using he and she as biological pronouns is in fact discrimination.

00:37:14.000 But what the left sees is a bunch of white people who don't like demographic change.

00:37:17.000 That's not accurate.

00:37:18.000 What you're seeing in the Republican Party is a reaction to the fact that the left has decided on two key factors.

00:37:25.000 One, that people who come into the country should not assimilate to American values. 1.00

00:37:30.000 Now, here's the reality.

00:37:32.000 People who are coming into the country are assimilating. 1.00

00:37:34.000 They are.

00:37:34.000 I mean, studies show that they are learning the language.

00:37:36.000 Hispanic immigrants to the United States are learning the language just as fast as other immigrants to the United States have in the past.

00:37:41.000 But there's a giant welfare system in the United States, and it turns out that new immigrants take advantage of that welfare system in a way that Old immigrants didn't because the welfare system didn't exist in 1900. 0.85

00:37:51.000 It does exist now.

00:37:52.000 So that means that the interests have changed a little bit.

00:37:56.000 It is also true that the left has basically pushed harder and faster for infringements of basic rights.

00:38:05.000 So let's say that the right and the left agreed on basic American rights.

00:38:08.000 And this were just a question of everybody assimilating into those notions of rights.

00:38:13.000 Then demographic change wouldn't be a problem.

00:38:15.000 The demographic change that a lot of people on the right seem to be worried about is really not a demographic change.

00:38:21.000 It's an ideological change.

00:38:22.000 There's a suspicion on the right that people on the left are specifically looking to bring people into the country who actually agree with the left and not with the right about fundamental American values and then reshift the political landscape along those lines.

00:38:33.000 And that's what the right fears.

00:38:35.000 And not without reason, because this seems to be what the left is doing.

00:38:39.000 The left has not stopped pushing against fundamental American rights.

00:38:42.000 There is a basic disagreement on the nature of what America should be and what our founding values are, and whether those founding values should be overthrown.

00:38:50.000 And the demographic change just plays into that.

00:38:52.000 It just plays into that basic division.

00:38:54.000 If that division didn't exist, no one would care about the demographic change.

00:38:57.000 What the left is suggesting, though, is if we change the values of the country, if we try to overthrow the First Amendment and the Second Amendment and the Fourth Amendment and the Fifth Amendment, we try to overthrow all of those amendments, And if we bring in immigrants who are more likely to vote with us on all of those specific issues, that the reason that the right objects to that is because of the color of those immigrants' skin.

00:39:17.000 That's not true.

00:39:18.000 The reason that many on the right are objecting to that is because the left is seeking to infringe upon rights that we hold dear.

00:39:25.000 And then they're expanding the immigration pool in order to make that happen.

00:39:30.000 That's a question of ideology.

00:39:31.000 That's not a question of race.

00:39:33.000 That's a question of ideology, not a question of race.

00:39:37.000 But according to Yoni Applebaum, it's a question of race.

00:39:39.000 This is why I say that the piece misses the point.

00:39:41.000 He says, the biggest driver of this division might be demographic change.

00:39:44.000 The United States is undergoing a transition perhaps no rich and stable democracy has ever experienced.

00:39:48.000 It's historically dominant group is on its way to becoming a political minority.

00:39:51.000 Yet these presidents, if there are precedents for such transition, they lie here in the US where white Englishmen initially predominated and the boundaries of the dominant group have been under negotiation ever since.

00:40:00.000 Yet these precedents are hardly comforting.

00:40:02.000 Many of these renegotiations sparked political conflict or open violence, and fewer as profound as the one now underway.

00:40:08.000 Okay, but the fact is that those definitions were expanded.

00:40:11.000 The definitions were expanded.

00:40:13.000 Because the definition itself was not supposed to change.

00:40:13.000 Why?

00:40:15.000 The application of the definition changed.

00:40:17.000 The rights of Englishmen, those were expanded to include people who are not Englishmen, people who are not white, people who are not male, people who are not property owners.

00:40:26.000 They were expanded.

00:40:27.000 The definition's application was expanded, but the definition itself was not supposed to change.

00:40:32.000 What's happening right now is that the left is changing the definition of citizenship itself, and then they're suggesting that what the right actually objects to is the expansion of the application of the definition.

00:40:43.000 That's a completely different argument, and it happens not to be an honest argument.

00:40:48.000 According to Yoni Appelbaum, he says, within the living memory of most Americans, a majority of the country's residents were white Christians.

00:40:53.000 That is no longer the case, and voters are not insensate to the change.

00:40:57.000 Nearly a third of conservatives say they face a lot of discrimination for their beliefs, as do more than half of white evangelicals.

00:41:02.000 Well, by the way, you can see that happening, and he seems to be suggesting that that is chimerical.

00:41:07.000 That is obviously not true.

00:41:09.000 I mean, the fact is that the people who are leading the institutions of our culture are people who actively do attempt to discriminate against Christians.

00:41:16.000 There's a story today about a scientific, some scientific group that has decided to oust BYU from the science group.

00:41:23.000 Because BYU still holds by traditional values on sexuality.

00:41:23.000 Why?

00:41:28.000 But Yoni Applebaum says more epochal, like E-P-O-C-H-A-L, than the change that has already happened is the change yet to come.

00:41:35.000 Sometime in the next quarter century or so, depending on immigration rates and the vagaries of ethnic and racial identification, non-whites will become a majority in the US.

00:41:43.000 For some Americans, that change will be cause for celebration.

00:41:46.000 For others, it may pass unnoticed, but the transition is already producing a sharp political backlash, exploited and exacerbated by the president.

00:41:53.000 In 2016, white working class voters who said that discrimination against whites is a serious problem, or who said they felt like strangers in their own country, were almost twice as likely to vote for Trump as those who did not.

00:42:02.000 Okay, that is not because of race.

00:42:04.000 Okay, that is because of the left's attempts to rewrite what it means to be an American, and then suggest that if you object to that, you're a racist.

00:42:13.000 Yoni Applebaum says in 2002, the political scientist Roy Teixeira and the journalist John Dudas published a book, The Emerging Democratic Majority, which argued that demographic changes, the browning of America, along with the movement of more women, professionals, and young people into the democratic fold, would soon usher in a new progressive era that would relegate Republicans to permanent minority political status.

00:42:30.000 The book argued, somewhat triumphantly, that the new emerging majority was inexorable and inevitable.

00:42:36.000 But many conservatives surveying demographic trends are concluding that Teixeira wasn't wrong.

00:42:41.000 They can see the GOP's sinking fortunes among younger voters and feel the culture turning against them, condemning them today for views that were commonplace only yesterday.

00:42:47.000 They are losing faith they can win elections in the future.

00:42:50.000 With this comes dark possibilities.

00:42:52.000 Okay, but that's not a racial point.

00:42:54.000 The reason that Republicans are fearful of losing elections in the future more so than maybe any time in recent history is because the consequences of losing an election may mean losing your basic freedoms.

00:43:04.000 You have Obama Administration State Department officials writing that he wants to overthrow- Richard Stelter wrote this in the Washington Post.

00:43:11.000 That he wants to- or Stengler.

00:43:13.000 He wrote in the Washington Post that he wanted to see the First Amendment overthrown in favor of hate speech regulation in the United States.

00:43:20.000 That makes me more fearful than any number of immigrants of any color. 1.00

00:43:26.000 According to the Atlantic, The history of the United States is rich with examples of once-dominant groups adjusting to the rise of formerly marginalized populations, sometimes gracefully, more often bitterly, and occasionally violently.

00:43:37.000 Partisan coalitions in the U.S.

00:43:38.000 are constantly reshuffling, realigning among new axes.

00:43:41.000 Once-rigid boundaries of faith, ethnicity, and class often prove malleable.

00:43:45.000 Issues gain salience or fade into irrelevance.

00:43:47.000 Yesterday's rivals become tomorrow's allies, but sometimes That process of realignment breaks down.

00:43:52.000 Instead of reaching out and inviting new allies into its coalition, the political right hardens, turning against the democratic processes it fears will subsume it.

00:43:59.000 A conservatism defined by ideas can hold its own against progressivism when it converts to its principles and evolving with each generation.

00:44:06.000 A conservatism defined by identity politics reduces the complex calculus of politics to a simple arithmetic question.

00:44:12.000 And at some point, the numbers no longer add up.

00:44:14.000 Now, if the argument here is that Republicans and conservatives should try appealing to every demographic group, I totally agree with that, obviously.

00:44:21.000 Totally agree with that.

00:44:22.000 And I think most Republicans agree with that.

00:44:24.000 Most Republicans, most conservatives agree with this.

00:44:28.000 Most conservatives are interested in pushing forward.

00:44:33.000 Most conservatives are interested in pushing forward Their case into minority community.

00:44:38.000 I spoke at the California Republican Party annual event, the convention, the CRP convention 2011 maybe, and I was encouraging people in the crowd to learn Spanish.

00:44:51.000 Not because I don't think that people should speak English, but I think that the language of conservatism is not relegated to English.

00:44:57.000 So everybody should want to reach into new demographic communities.

00:45:01.000 The problem is that the left is playing a trick.

00:45:03.000 And the trick is that if you object to the rise of the left ideologically, and if you object to the left's immigration policy on the basis that you believe that the left is attempting to import people who agree with them, rather than people who are going to agree with basic constitutional principles, that that's a racial thing.

00:45:19.000 It's not a racial thing.

00:45:20.000 It's not an ethnic thing.

00:45:21.000 And making it into a racial and ethnic thing is actually a pretty strong Democrat pitch, right?

00:45:26.000 They try to say that if you disagree with the Democrats, what you really disagree with is the racial movement of the country.

00:45:34.000 The Atlantic says, the collapse of the mainstream Republican Party in the face of Trumpism is at once a product of highly particular circumstances and a disturbing echo of other events.

00:45:43.000 According to political scientist Daniel Ziblatt, he says the key variable distinguishing states that achieve democratic stability from those that fell prey to authoritarian impulses was not the strength or character of the political left or of the forces pushing for greater democratization, so much as the viability of the center-right.

00:45:59.000 A strong center-right party could wall off more extreme right-wing movements, shutting out the radicals who attack the political system itself.

00:46:05.000 Okay, that's true.

00:46:06.000 I do believe that the, I don't think it has to be center-right.

00:46:08.000 I think that true, people who are conservative should wall themselves off from people who want to wage ethnic war, demographically.

00:46:14.000 They should wall themselves off from the white supremacists and the white nationalists.

00:46:17.000 And people believe that demographics is destiny.

00:46:20.000 But in order to make that argument, the left is also going to really have to stop pushing for radical policies that overthrow rights, and then suggesting that opposition to their agenda is racism.

00:46:32.000 Because that drives people right into the arms of the bad guys.

00:46:36.000 So this is where I say that the Atlantic misses the point.

00:46:39.000 If you actually want the country to come back together, then it's not just about the center-right standing up against racism.

00:46:44.000 I do that every day here on the program.

00:46:46.000 I make full speeches about it at Stanford University.

00:46:49.000 It's something that is imperative.

00:46:51.000 But it's not just about that.

00:46:52.000 It's about the left stopping its full-scale quest to break down the Constitution It's about the left recognizing that immigration policy should be to the benefit of all Americans, that people who enter the United States, it's not just about assimilation, that they should believe in the vision of American values.

00:47:07.000 It's about the left stopping its full-scale attack on the Constitution of the United States, and then using immigration as a weapon in that process.

00:47:14.000 That's what is going on right here, and that's what's creating the kickback.

00:47:17.000 That's what's creating the division.

00:47:19.000 A feeling the very definition of Americanism is being changed under the noses of the American people by the left, And then you're accused of being anti-American if you oppose that change in definition.

00:47:29.000 Not the broader application of the definition, the change of the definition itself.

00:47:33.000 Okay, time for a thing I like, and then we'll get to a thing that I hate.

00:47:35.000 So, things that I like today.

00:47:37.000 So I was doing some Jewish reading over the weekend.

00:47:39.000 People frequently write in and ask me about good Jewish books to read, because I am obviously a proponent.

00:47:46.000 There's a great book called Rabbi Akiva, Sage of the Talmud by Barry Holtz.

00:47:51.000 It's about probably the greatest sage cited in the Talmud, Rabbi Akiva, who was also part of the Bar Kokhba Revolt, lived through the destruction of the Second Temple, as well as the Bar Kokhba Revolt, and then died horribly at the hands of the Romans.

00:48:04.000 It's a really good exploration into not only Rabbi Akiva, but the Talmudic world and the Mishnaic world.

00:48:09.000 So if you're interested in Judaism at all, you should go check it out.

00:48:11.000 If you're interested in the ancient world at all, actually, you should go check it out.

00:48:13.000 It's really fascinating.

00:48:14.000 Rabbi Akiva, Sage of the Talmud by Barry Holtz.

00:48:17.000 Definitely worth the read.

00:48:18.000 Very easy read and pretty good stuff.

00:48:20.000 Alrighty, time for a thing that I hate.

00:48:25.000 Okay, so there is a rule in sports media.

00:48:27.000 The rule is that if you are on the left and you want to talk politics, then you are a hero.

00:48:31.000 And if you're not on the left and you want to talk politics, you get fired.

00:48:33.000 That is the rule in sports media.

00:48:34.000 I've talked about this with my friend, Clay Travis, who is a lifelong registered Democrat, so far as I'm aware, and he fully agrees that the sports media are extraordinarily biased to the left.

00:48:44.000 Like, more so, statistically speaking, than the news media, actually.

00:48:47.000 And so this is how you end up with these two juxtaposed stories.

00:48:50.000 In the New York Times, an editorial by a guy named Barry Pacheski, Who's the former deputy editor of Deadspin?

00:48:56.000 Deadspin had turned into this wild left outlet that had almost nothing to do with sports, right?

00:49:01.000 They spent their days ripping on Ted Cruz, until Ted Cruz owned them.

00:49:05.000 He has a piece called, I was fired from Deadspin for refusing to stick to sports.

00:49:08.000 It says, two weeks ago, I was fired as acting editor-in-chief of Deadspin, where I'd worked since 2009.

00:49:13.000 The entire staff resigned, following me out the door after we refused a new company mandate to stick to sports.

00:49:19.000 Jim Spanfeller, installed as the chief executive of GeoMedia by the private equity firm that bought the company seven months ago, called me into his office, pointed some offending stories on our homepage, and had me escorted from the building.

00:49:29.000 This is the first time I'm speaking about my firing, and my stance remains the same as in the countless meetings with management where I explained and insisted that sports don't end when the players head back to the locker room.

00:49:38.000 We refuse to stick to sports because we know that sports is everything, and everything is sports.

00:49:42.000 It's the NBA kowtowing to its Chinese business interests.

00:49:45.000 It's pro sports leagues attempting to become shadow justice systems for publicity reasons.

00:49:49.000 It's the opioid epidemic roiling NFL locker rooms, at least as hard as anywhere in Appalachia, even as the league refuses to relax its marijuana policies. 0.87

00:49:56.000 It's racist fans chanting, chasing black players.

00:50:00.000 Off the pitch in Italian soccer matches, it's Washington Nationals catcher Kurt Suzuki wearing a Make America Great Again cap at the White House.

00:50:07.000 These last few stories occurred in the past week, and so we're not covered on Deadspin.

00:50:10.000 The Stick to Sports Tick-Tot forced the outlet to ignore the biggest sports stories in the world.

00:50:14.000 Reporting sports with integrity requires knowing that there's no way to wall off games from the world outside.

00:50:19.000 And this guy's a hero!

00:50:21.000 I mean, it doesn't matter that Deadspin was basically bankrupt, which is why a private equity firm had to buy them, and reinvigorate them, and change everything out.

00:50:29.000 But the idea here is that if you speak about politics from the left in the sports world, then you are a hero of the republic.

00:50:37.000 Deadspin was the voice of the long-suffering fan finding the humor and the heartbreak in everything in the world of sports.

00:50:43.000 It was the fan wondering why he was paying $200 to go to a football game to watch a team whose owner would rather pocket profit than pay to improve the roster.

00:50:50.000 It was also the fan troubled by the culture and politics of sports.

00:50:52.000 The fan who couldn't help noticing the larger issues of the real world spilled onto the field.

00:50:56.000 Okay, so the New York Times gives that guy an op-ed, right?

00:50:58.000 And we're all supposed to lament the return of Deadspin to pure sports.

00:51:03.000 Then there's Don Cherry.

00:51:04.000 So Don Cherry is a longtime hockey analyst for the NHL.

00:51:08.000 And he was on Sportsnet, and he commented on Sportsnet on the fact that it was Remembrance Day in Canada.

00:51:19.000 Well, on Remembrance Day in Canada, I've been there, everyone wears a red poppy in remembrance of the Canadian soldiers who fell during World War I. And he was upset, because he said he was walking around the streets of Toronto, and he saw people who he assumed were immigrants, who were not wearing the red poppy, and here's what Don Cherry said.

00:51:34.000 I live in Mississauga, nobody wears, uh, very few people wear a poppy.

00:51:39.000 Downtown Toronto, forget it, downtown Toronto, nobody wears a poppy.

00:51:43.000 And I'm not gonna, he says, wait a minute!

00:51:45.000 How about running it for the people that buy them?

00:51:47.000 Now you go to the small cities, and you know, you know, those, the rows on rows, you people love, you, they come here, whatever it is, you love our way of life, you love our milk and honey, at least you could pay a couple of bucks for a poppy or something like that.

00:52:03.000 These guys pay for your way of life that you enjoy in Canada.

00:52:07.000 These guys paid the biggest price.

00:52:10.000 Okay, so he said this and, you know, might not be well articulated, but he is entitled to his opinion unless he happens to be on the, on the...

00:52:19.000 Okay, well, I mean, you could just say that, right?

00:52:20.000 which point he gets fired.

00:52:21.000 And Don Cherry was indeed fired from Sportsnet.

00:52:23.000 Sportsnet president Bart Yabsley said, quote, sports brings people together.

00:52:27.000 It unites us, not divides us.

00:52:29.000 Following further discussions with Don Cherry after Saturday night's broadcast, it has been decided it is the right time for him to immediately step down.

00:52:34.000 During the broadcast, he made divisive remarks that do not represent our values or what we stand for.

00:52:38.000 Okay, well, I mean, you could just say that, right?

00:52:41.000 I mean, you could just have that debate, theoretically.

00:52:44.000 But the point here is that the media will lament if Deadspin is told not to do politics.

00:52:49.000 But if Don Cherry is told not to do politics, then that is Sportsnet acting as just as a wonderful, diverse company.

00:52:56.000 You've seen the same thing at ESPN.

00:52:58.000 At ESPN, they will cover Colin Kaepernick kneeling for years on end, but if Mike Ditka says something they don't like because it happens to be conservative, he says something about how he doesn't like Barack Obama or something, they'll fire him.

00:53:08.000 He's gone.

00:53:09.000 End of Mike Ditka.

00:53:11.000 You see that with Curt Schilling too, right?

00:53:12.000 Curt Schilling can't appear on the network because Curt Schilling once tweeted that Al-Qaeda was bad and compared Al-Qaeda to the Nazis, which of course you're not allowed to do even though Al-Qaeda is kind of like the Nazis.

00:53:22.000 So, just gonna point out the double standard in sports media.

00:53:25.000 One of the reasons why sports circulation is declining.

00:53:28.000 The answer to this, probably, is to separate off politics from sports again.

00:53:31.000 Or, if you are going to not separate off politics from sports, then you should, in fact, allow the same sort of freedom of opinion to reign as you would in the political sphere.

00:53:39.000 Don Cherry wouldn't have been fired for saying what he said on CNN.

00:53:42.000 So, if politics and sports are not separate, Then let a thousand voices be heard.

00:53:46.000 And if politics and sports are separate, well then stop lamenting it when left-wing political hacks start hijacking sports websites for their own political agenda.

00:53:55.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here today with two additional hours of content.

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00:54:38.000 But that great victory for freedom created a big problem for the libertarians, traditionalists, and religious right who made up the post-war conservative movement.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - November 12, 2019

Everybody In The Pool! | Ep. 895

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