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Everyone’s Bananas About Monkeypox | Ep. 1541


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The media continue to push panic about monkeypox, even though it is almost entirely spread via men who have sex with men, the media claim Republicans are raising alarm about civil war, and we explore the New York Times' ideal wedding. Today's show is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Get ExpressVPN for free, no credit card required, right now at expressvpn.co/getcryptid and use promo code Shapiro to get 50% off your very first month of coverage. Subscribe to my new show, The Ben Shapiro Show, wherever you get your shows, where I break down pop culture, politics, and pop culture. I m Ben Shapiro, and I m here to make sense of it all. If you like your web history being seen and sold to advertisers, you won t want to miss this! Get your free copy of Shapiro s latest book, The Devil Next Door: How to Write Your Own Version of the Bible, by John Grisham, which is out now! You can get a copy of the book for free if you sign up for my newsletter here. It s a must-read guide to the best of the best books ever written by Ben Shapiro on the internet, and you get 20% off for the rest of the month! Want to become a supporter of the show? Subscribe here? Want more Shapiro & Co? ? Get a discount code Shapiro? Use promo code SHIPPERSHIP? at checkout at checkout to get $50 off your first month, and get 10% off the entire month of Shapiro's newest book, Shapiro's new book, "Shapiro's next book, and get 15% off my entire year for the entire year, plus free shipping, shipping free, plus an additional 3 months shipping, plus a free shipping offer, plus I'll get an extra $5 shipping on my next month, shipping on your first book, and shipping on an additional $5,99 a month, plus two months free, shipping and shipping, and an additional 2 months shipping on a maximum of $50, shipping starts, and a total of $99, plus they'll get you get a VIP discount, plus you get an ad-free course, plus all that gets you an ad on my first month for two months, plus she'll get a discount, and they'll also get a FREE PRICING FREE, FREE VIP PRIVATE PRODUCING PROMOTION AND VIP access to the show starts in two months and a FREE VIP PACKAGE AND VIP PROMO, AND FREE PROGONE AND A MONO VOTING PACKAGE?


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00:00:00.000 The media continue to push panic about monkey pox, even though it is almost entirely spread via men who have sex with men.
00:00:05.000 The media claim Republicans are raising alarm about civil war.
00:00:09.000 And we explore the New York Times' ideal wedding.
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00:01:25.000 Well, everybody is talking about monkeypox.
00:01:28.000 Apparently, the WHO has now declared an international global emergency over monkeypox.
00:01:34.000 By the way, this is super scientific stuff.
00:01:35.000 When I say super scientific, I mean that apparently the head of the World Health Organization overruled a divided expert panel to issue the group's highest alert in order to do this.
00:01:46.000 Okay, so that right there tells you that this is not actually a scientific question.
00:01:50.000 It is a political question.
00:01:51.000 Because again, the panel of the WHO was like, not a global health emergency.
00:01:55.000 And because it's gotten so much media attention, Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the WHO's Director General, overruled that panel.
00:02:04.000 He said that this was instead a public health emergency of international concern, a designation the WHO currently uses to describe two other diseases, COVID-19 and polio.
00:02:12.000 Well, you may have noticed that COVID-19 hit pretty much everybody on earth, and polio is widely transmissible outside of people having sex with each other.
00:02:22.000 This particular disease, as we'll discuss in just one second, seems to be transmitted almost entirely by men having sex with men.
00:02:28.000 Well, we actually do understand the mode of transmission.
00:02:30.000 outbreak that has spread around the world rapidly through new modes of transmission, about which we understand too little, and which meets the criteria for a public health emergency.
00:02:37.000 Well, we actually do understand the mode of transmission.
00:02:39.000 It's, um, it turns out via penis.
00:02:41.000 It was apparently the first time the director general had sidestepped his advisors to declare an emergency. The WHO's declaration signals a public health risk requiring a coordinated international response.
00:02:51.000 The designation can lead to member countries to invest significant resources in controlling an outbreak, draw more funding to the response, and encourage nations to share vaccines, treatments, and other key resources for containing the outbreak.
00:03:02.000 Now, of course, there is a vaccine for monkeypox, but the FDA in the United States totally held up the development of enough vaccine until it was too late.
00:03:09.000 Like, they are just now getting through the process of approving the vaccine that should have been available for monkeypox, because they had a vaccine, They basically allowed it to expire.
00:03:17.000 All the vaccine got really old and therefore ineffective.
00:03:20.000 And then the FDA didn't re-up on that.
00:03:21.000 So, well done once again, administrative state.
00:03:25.000 This is the seventh public health emergency since 2007.
00:03:28.000 COVID-19 was the most recent.
00:03:30.000 Some global health experts have criticized the WHO's criteria for declaring such emergencies as opaque and inconsistent.
00:03:34.000 Yeah, you would think.
00:03:36.000 I mean, again, monkeypox is not exactly on the level of COVID-19.
00:03:40.000 So far, the number of people who have died of monkeypox globally Five.
00:03:45.000 Five people have died globally from monkeypox, which does not sound like a global health emergency to me.
00:03:50.000 That sounds like a bad weekend in Chicago.
00:03:53.000 Monkeypox has been a concern for years, according to the New York Times, in some African countries.
00:03:57.000 In recent weeks, the virus has spread worldwide.
00:03:59.000 Some 75 countries have reported at least 16,000 cases so far.
00:04:03.000 Nearly all the infections outside Africa have occurred among men who have sex with men.
00:04:06.000 This isn't me just saying this, this is the New York Times saying this.
00:04:09.000 The outbreak has galvanized many in the LGBT community, who have charged that monkeypox has not received the attention it deserves, as happened in the early days of the HIV epidemic.
00:04:17.000 Well, I mean, I feel like it's getting a bleep load of attention.
00:04:21.000 Don't you?
00:04:22.000 I mean, you heard about monkeypox.
00:04:24.000 And also, it seems as though the media are really going out of their way to pretend that this thing could affect pretty much anybody on earth.
00:04:32.000 In the early days of HIV, that was not the case.
00:04:33.000 So when it came to HIV, the early days of HIV, the media basically suggested correctly that it was between homosexual men that HIV was being transmitted, which was largely true.
00:04:45.000 Then there was a harsh media push To the other side.
00:04:48.000 Anyone could get HIV at any time.
00:04:50.000 Men having sex with women.
00:04:51.000 Women having sex with women.
00:04:52.000 This sexually transmitted disease was going to be widely spread throughout human society.
00:04:57.000 And it turns out that, statistically speaking, that was not true.
00:04:59.000 Well now with monkey pox, they're just starting from step two.
00:05:02.000 They're just going right to anybody can get monkey pox at any time, even though we now know that virtually everyone who is getting monkey pox is a man having sex with another man.
00:05:10.000 The WHO's declaration is better late than never, said Dr. Bhagumati Tandji, an infectious diseases physician at Emory University in Atlanta.
00:05:17.000 But with the delay, one can argue that the response globally has continued to suffer from lack of coordination.
00:05:23.000 Apparently, the outbreak is expected to infect maybe hundreds of thousands of people, depending on who exactly engages in this sort of behavior, and may have permanently entrenched itself in some countries, according to Dr. James Lowler, co-director of the University of Nebraska's Global Center for Health Security.
00:05:38.000 Now, the real question about this is whether it is actually a virus that is widely transmissible in any serious way outside of men having sex with men, or whether it's just a new kind of STD.
00:05:48.000 According to the Jerusalem Post, the World Health Organization, after declaring the outbreak a global health emergency, Well, there are serious questions among doctors about why exactly this is not an STD.
00:06:00.000 Dr. Roy Zucker, director of the Tel Aviv Swarovski Medical Center, Ichelove Hospital's LGBTQ Health Services, and a doctor at Clalit Health Services, said whether or not monkeypox could be designated as an STD is a quote-unquote great question.
00:06:12.000 He said, we know from past data the virus can be spread by being in the presence of someone who's infected for a long time, say for three hours at a distance of two meters or so, or by simply coming into physical contact with them.
00:06:22.000 But what we're seeing across the world and in Israel is that most of the patients were infected via sexual activity.
00:06:26.000 The WHO also said the same.
00:06:28.000 So it appears as though this disease is transmitted sexually, and so we can begin to refer to it as another STD.
00:06:33.000 But of course, everyone is afraid of calling it an STD because then, of course, they're afraid of the stigma that might attach to homosexual sex, which There must never be any stigmas with regard to any sexual activity, let alone homosexual sex, no matter the levels of transmission of STDs, which differ widely based on the kind of sex that people are having and with whom they are having that sex.
00:06:52.000 If you don't have sex with strange men in high promiscuity areas, the chances of you getting monkey pox are significantly lower than if you do.
00:07:02.000 Zucker said, it is not entirely certain that monkeypox will be classified as a new STD because, although it is less common, it can be transmitted via skin-to-skin contact in non-sexual situations.
00:07:11.000 Okay, well, again, that may be true, but the main vector of transmission is, in fact, homosexual sex.
00:07:20.000 According to Dr. Zucker, for those engaging in sexual intercourse, it's best to do so in places where visibility is good, rather than in dark places.
00:07:26.000 I know that we're not allowed to talk also about the fact that you should probably know your partner, but kind of, you should probably know your partner.
00:07:30.000 As we also know, the use of a condom lowers the risk of infection, especially of rectal infections, which are very painful.
00:07:35.000 Sounds terrible.
00:07:36.000 People need to be aware of this virus and go and get checked if they have any kind of skin lesion.
00:07:41.000 He said, right now the cases are mainly found among men that have sex with other men.
00:07:44.000 It's a disease that can easily be passed on to other populations.
00:07:48.000 I mean, not that easily, because the research from the New England Journal of Medicine is showing that an overwhelming 95% of confirmed cases were likely transmitted via close sexual contact, unless there are other doctors who are very afraid that this is going to stigmatize the LGBTQ plus minus divided by sign ampersand star percentage sign community.
00:08:08.000 Dr. Itzhak Levy, director of the HIV AIDS Center and supervisor in the infectious disease unit at Shiba Medical Center said, I'm not sure if it's a sexually transmitted disease or a disease that is transmitted during sexual activity, which are two entirely different things.
00:08:19.000 If it's the former, that means it's transmitted when there's penetration and things like that.
00:08:23.000 If it's something that is transmitted during sexual activity, that means it's being spread during skin to skin contact.
00:08:28.000 Okay, but it has to be apparently pretty heavy skin-to-skin contact because, you know, you just shaking hands with somebody is not going to give you monkey pox.
00:08:35.000 Benjamin Ryan writes that over at the Washington Post.
00:08:38.000 He says, quote, countless public health experts have uttered statements like this one.
00:08:42.000 Anyone can get monkey pox in the past few months.
00:08:44.000 Members of the media and politicians have parroted the message ad nauseum without stopping to dissect what it implies or obscures.
00:08:50.000 This broad strokes maxim that everyone on earth is susceptible to this troubling infection might be factual on its surface.
00:08:55.000 It is so egregiously misleading it amounts to misinformation.
00:08:57.000 But this, by the way, is typical of the health community.
00:09:00.000 And what we have seen in the past several years is that the health community is willing to lie to you.
00:09:03.000 They love the platonic lie.
00:09:05.000 It is their favorite.
00:09:06.000 It is where they get to tell you that you are at tremendous risk of dying from X, Y, or Z. And thus, you must do exactly what they say.
00:09:12.000 If you don't shut down the schools, your kid is going to die of COVID, even though the number of kids who died of COVID is exorbitantly low.
00:09:17.000 Everybody is at risk of dying of COVID-19.
00:09:19.000 Even very young, healthy 20-year-olds, you must get 20 times vaxxed because, after all, you could die of COVID.
00:09:27.000 And I mean, technically, you could die of COVID.
00:09:28.000 The chances are just extremely, extremely low.
00:09:31.000 But what they do is they tell this platonic lie so as to get everybody to take the vaccine, supposedly to end infection, which it didn't end up doing.
00:09:37.000 But says this columnist for the Washington Post, who's been covering infectious disease and LGBTQ health for two decades.
00:09:44.000 He says, those who make such statements don't intend harm.
00:09:47.000 On the contrary, leaders at the CDC, the WHO, and elsewhere repeat them because they commendably want to combat the societal stigma faced by gay and bisexual men who have been disproportionately impacted by monkeypox.
00:09:57.000 Again, I don't know what stigma you're talking about.
00:10:00.000 Is the stigma that if you have promiscuous gay and or bisexual sex, That you are more likely to get an STD?
00:10:06.000 Because that's not a stigma, that's just an actual health fact.
00:10:09.000 And I don't know when our health directors became more concerned with lying to you about the health statistics than about, you know, preventing people from knowing the health statistics because it might cause them to societally stigmatize people who engage in promiscuous sex in bar restrooms.
00:10:25.000 As far as this columnist is concerned, he says, as these public health experts know well, epidemiology is less concerned with whether someone could contract an infection.
00:10:32.000 Instead, the much more vital questions focus on which groups of people are the most likely to be exposed to a pathogen, to contract it, and why.
00:10:38.000 In public health stats, this is the study of relative risk.
00:10:41.000 Here is what we can discern from data collected about monkeypox so far.
00:10:44.000 This viral outbreak isn't just mostly occurring among men who have sex with men.
00:10:47.000 The confirmed cases, at least to date, have consistently, almost entirely occurred among this demographic, which accounts for 96% or more of diagnoses where data are available.
00:10:58.000 Per capita, the few monkeypox cases in women and children remain minuscule compared with the rate among gay and bisexual men.
00:11:03.000 Of course, substantial transmission could always occur among other such groups.
00:11:06.000 They keep saying this over and over.
00:11:07.000 Then why hasn't it happened?
00:11:09.000 Why hasn't it happened?
00:11:11.000 Researchers at the WHO and elsewhere have speculated the monkeypox reproduction rate will likely remain significantly lower in such demographics, meaning the virus will more likely hit transmission dead ends among them than among gay and bisexual men, because presumably gay and bisexual men have more promiscuous sex in general than the rest of the population.
00:11:28.000 An uncomfortable truth, one documented in peer-reviewed papers, is that sexual behaviors in networks specific to gay and bisexual men have long made them more likely to acquire various sexually transmitted infections compared with heterosexual people.
00:11:38.000 This includes not only HIV, but also syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, hepatitis B, and sexually transmitted hepatitis C.
00:11:44.000 Now of course, we used to have health classes in public schools, and they just would not teach any of this in health class in public schools.
00:11:51.000 Because again, no stigma, all sexual activity is completely equivalent in a utilitarian sense.
00:11:57.000 There is no better or worse way in terms of health.
00:12:00.000 To have sex, right?
00:12:01.000 All that matters is that you have your own sexual sense of self-identity and that must trump everything including apparently health statistics.
00:12:07.000 We have to obscure those health statistics so as to prop up the central tenet of left-wing thought socially in the West today.
00:12:15.000 Global public health experts agree skin-to-skin contact in context of sexual activity between men has been the principal driver of the monkeypox outbreak at least so far.
00:12:24.000 Such experts have also asserted the risk of monkeypox to the broader population remains very low.
00:12:28.000 This is hopeful news!
00:12:30.000 Assuaging fears of contagion will help fight unhelpful hysteria and prevent gay and bisexual men from being subjected to even greater stigma should they be painted as culprits of the spread of virus.
00:12:37.000 Like, this is the other point.
00:12:38.000 If you're afraid of the stigma, then what was the worst stigma with regard to HIV?
00:12:42.000 The worst stigma was, if somebody has HIV, you're going to shake their hand and get HIV.
00:12:47.000 Remember, this was a big conversation when Magic Johnson got HIV.
00:12:49.000 Would he be allowed to play in the NBA?
00:12:52.000 Because it was generally transmitted through open wounds, for example.
00:12:56.000 But there was this notion that if Magic Johnson sweated on you, you might get HIV, right?
00:13:00.000 This caused actual real societal stigma.
00:13:03.000 If I don't have to worry about monkeypox, I don't really care whether you are engaging in activity more likely to give you monkeypox.
00:13:09.000 I mean, I would prefer you didn't, but if you decide to do so, that would be a you problem.
00:13:14.000 Such enmity devastated the gay community during the height of the AIDS crisis, as this columnist says, when the CDC waged a long-running misleading public service campaign with variations of the slogan, anyone can get HIV AIDS.
00:13:24.000 Because the same is true of the monkeypox outbreak, newly launched vaccination campaigns appropriately target this group, gay and bisexual men.
00:13:30.000 In particular, those reporting multiple recent sex partners.
00:13:33.000 Again, it is amazing that our society is so stuck.
00:13:35.000 In this particular social rut of suggesting that all sexual activity is morally equivalent, we have to pretend that all sexual activity is also equivalent in terms of baseline health.
00:13:47.000 Which, by the way, underscores so much of the sexual ethos of the left.
00:13:50.000 The sexual ethos of the left is that because they wish all activity to be considered morally equivalent, Also, we have to pretend that men are women, women are men.
00:13:59.000 We have to pretend that all forms of sexual activity should be equally recognized by the government as meaningful, healthy, and useful to society.
00:14:07.000 This is their... This is the propaganda point.
00:14:10.000 And so we're going to obscure fact, and thus make it more likely, by the way, if you think that everybody's equivalently likely to...
00:14:16.000 Get monkeypox.
00:14:17.000 You are more likely to engage in particularly the type of activities that give you monkeypox if you're a member of a subpopulation, because you're gonna think, well, you know, why should I worry about it?
00:14:25.000 It's the same as my straight neighbor next door.
00:14:26.000 Well, it is not.
00:14:27.000 I mean, that's just the simple fact of the matter.
00:14:29.000 If you don't tell people how they get a disease, people are more likely to engage in the behavior that leads to the disease.
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00:15:38.000 Rochelle Walensky, the head of the CDC, she pointed out there's been talk about a couple of kids who got monkey pox.
00:15:43.000 Well, she says, well, that's not coming from the kids.
00:15:46.000 I mean, it's not that kids are walking around in serious danger of getting monkey pox in elementary school.
00:15:50.000 That's coming from men who have sex with other men being in close proximity with small kids for significant periods of time.
00:15:57.000 Not because they're having sex with the kids, but skin to skin contact for long periods of time can allow the transmission of monkey pox.
00:16:01.000 Here's Rochelle Walensky.
00:16:03.000 You've warned that monkeypox cases could rise into August.
00:16:07.000 Do you have projections on what those total cases would be and how many would be in children?
00:16:11.000 We do have seen now two cases that have occurred in children.
00:16:16.000 Both of those children are traced back to individuals who come from the men who have sex with men community, the gay men community.
00:16:26.000 And so when we have seen those cases in children, they have generally been what I call adjacent to the community most at risk.
00:16:32.000 Ooh, awkward.
00:16:33.000 By the way, you can see how awkward she is about saying in the gay community, right?
00:16:36.000 Just men who have sex with men, et cetera, et cetera.
00:16:39.000 Again, the reason that the health community is having even some trouble with this, because this should not be troublesome.
00:16:44.000 You just report the statistic and then people make their behavioral decisions based on the stats.
00:16:48.000 This should not be about stigma.
00:16:49.000 It should not be about anything else.
00:16:51.000 But it is.
00:16:52.000 And the reason that it is, is because the left has the social ethos and they push it forward no matter what.
00:16:56.000 Like, all the time, forever.
00:16:58.000 Which is why you have a piece in the New York Times over the weekend about an amazing wedding that took place during the San Francisco Pride March.
00:17:06.000 It's just an amazing piece.
00:17:08.000 Because again, according to the left, all forms of sexual behavior, all forms of coupling, are identical.
00:17:14.000 They're equivalent.
00:17:15.000 There is no reason why we should value, as a society, say, male-female heterosexual partnerships that produce children and then raise those children in the context of their biological parents.
00:17:25.000 We should treat those identically.
00:17:27.000 As a society, and in the law.
00:17:29.000 As the wedding of Melody Sage and Roscoe Kinkingstone.
00:17:36.000 Rocco Kickingstone.
00:17:38.000 This is the New York Times.
00:17:39.000 Wow.
00:17:39.000 Such beautiful heroism.
00:17:40.000 marching forward together.
00:17:42.000 Melody Sage was queer, and Roscoe Kickingstone, a transgender man, wed before the Trans March during San Francisco Pride on the day Roe versus Wade was overturned.
00:17:50.000 Wow, such beautiful heroism.
00:17:52.000 I mean, this is, when the Bible talks about a man shall leave his mother and father, and he shall cling to his wife, and they shall become a family unit.
00:17:59.000 This is exactly what they were talking about, right?
00:18:01.000 It was a queer woman and a transgender man getting married on the day of the apocalyptic overruling of Roe vs. Wade.
00:18:06.000 That's exactly what the Bible is talking about.
00:18:08.000 Anyway, the New York Times says, and this is precise, all relationships are the same.
00:18:13.000 They're all equivalent because all of them are just the expression of your inner sense of sexual well-being.
00:18:17.000 And that is the only thing that matters in life.
00:18:18.000 Your duties to other don't matter.
00:18:20.000 Your duties to society don't matter.
00:18:22.000 Society's utilitarian.
00:18:24.000 Value that is placed upon marriage, that doesn't matter whatsoever.
00:18:27.000 Now listen, we're not talking here about whether this activity should be quote-unquote legally restricted.
00:18:31.000 We are talking about the utilitarian and or moral value of particular sexual behavior.
00:18:35.000 And to pretend that it's all equivalent is of course incredibly, incredibly silly.
00:18:38.000 And we don't pretend that masturbation is just as morally useful as, for example, heterosexual sex that produces children.
00:18:46.000 Not on a societal level.
00:18:48.000 In traditional moral terms, of course, the two are tied together.
00:18:51.000 Societal value and coupling, right?
00:18:53.000 These two things are not completely separate.
00:18:55.000 In fact, all of human propagation relies on the formation of male-female heterosexual dyads that then create children.
00:19:03.000 I don't know why this is... We've now pretended that all of this stuff is mysterious and we don't understand why tradition has held this.
00:19:09.000 No, this is one of the more understandable elements of human tradition and human culture passed down for thousands of years in literally every society ever to be documented is the importance of male-female dyads in raising children.
00:19:20.000 Like, it's insane to me that the entire West has decided not only is it not understandable, we should completely explode the basis of forget human, all mammalian reproduction.
00:19:29.000 In order to reestablish the Freudian sense of sexual self-worth that lies at the root of happiness.
00:19:35.000 So here's the New York Times on this, on the, just a beautiful marriage, a beautiful marriage, just like your marriage, just like my, just like any other marriage.
00:19:42.000 Quote, while dancing around a bonfire to the rhythms of a drum circle in May, 2013, Melody Christine at Tancamire, who goes by the name of Melody Sage, felt a tingling rush of energy course through her body.
00:19:52.000 It was at that moment when she turned around and caught sight of Rocco Kickingstone Siragusa, who goes by Roscoe Kickingstone, The two introduced themselves, but Ms.
00:20:00.000 Sage could only manage a short conversation with Mr. Kickingstone before she danced away.
00:20:04.000 I was overwhelmed, she said, describing the sensation as such a strong feeling that I had never experienced.
00:20:09.000 Both were camping in southern Oregon, where they had traveled for a week-long celebration of Beltane, a pagan festival also known as Celtic May Day, hosted by the Radical Fairies, a countercultural group that for decades has maintained rural communities catering to LGBTQ residents.
00:20:25.000 The day after the bonfire, their paths crossed again.
00:20:27.000 Ms.
00:20:27.000 Sage said that Mr. Kickingstone, who had jumped out of a tree and broke his foot just hours before they met, was not difficult to track down.
00:20:34.000 I joked that he was easy prey, she said.
00:20:36.000 Their second conversation lasted a lot longer.
00:20:39.000 She told him about her pirate radio show, Xicas Unidos, which featured female guests discussing a range of issues.
00:20:44.000 Sounds like a...
00:20:45.000 A big market winner right there.
00:20:46.000 He talked about his participation in groups including Food Not Bombs, which distributes free vegan and vegetarian meals, and the Occupy Movement, born from the 2011 Occupy Wall Street protest in Lower Manhattan.
00:20:57.000 From there, they spent most of the festival in each other's company, with Miss Sage often procuring meals for an injured Mr. Kickingstone.
00:21:02.000 Activism, each learned, was not their only common bond.
00:21:05.000 As teenagers, both had come out as queer.
00:21:07.000 Miss Sage grew up in Santa Cruz, California at 18 years old, and Mr. Kickingstone, who was raised in San Diego at 15.
00:21:13.000 Four years later, at 19, Mr. Kickingstone, whose mixed ancestry includes indigenous American and Mexican roots, came out as a transgender man.
00:21:20.000 Coming out so young, how both learned to live and be comfortable with ourselves, said Mr. Kickingstone, who also identifies as two-spirit, a term that refers to gender non-conforming indigenous Americans.
00:21:29.000 Before the end of their week in Oregon, Ms.
00:21:31.000 Sage had initiated their first kiss.
00:21:32.000 It's like Romeo and Juliet, this story.
00:21:34.000 After the festival, they parted ways.
00:21:36.000 Sage, now 34, was at the time living in Santa Cruz.
00:21:36.000 Ms.
00:21:38.000 Mr. Kickingstone, now 36, in Seattle.
00:21:40.000 Again, this is in the New York Times, okay guys?
00:21:42.000 I'm not just picking a case out of a hat.
00:21:45.000 Featured on the front page of the website of the New York Times today.
00:21:48.000 A few weeks later, Ms.
00:21:49.000 Sage traveled to Seattle to visit another friend and ended up staying with Mr. Kickingstone for two weeks.
00:21:53.000 On that trip, they sang a lot of karaoke, and she accompanied him to a 30th birthday party for his sister.
00:21:58.000 Not long after Ms.
00:21:58.000 Sage left Seattle, Mr. Kickingstone visited her in Santa Cruz in June 2013.
00:22:02.000 While there, they went to the San Francisco Pride Celebration, during which they participated in the Trans March supporting the transgender community, an annual event they have since attended regularly.
00:22:12.000 It's like a Christmas party.
00:22:13.000 Though they saw other people in the months that followed, the two continued to grow closer, keeping in touch by phone and via text message and visiting one another when they could.
00:22:21.000 We were so much on the same wavelength spiritually, emotionally, physically, Mr. Kickingstone said.
00:22:26.000 I mean, what a romance.
00:22:27.000 What a romantic story here from the New York Times.
00:22:30.000 Because again, all sexual activity, all sexual pairings, they are just, they are morally equivalent.
00:22:35.000 They're societally utilitarian equivalent.
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00:23:56.000 That December, the pair went to Mexico, where they spent a month backpacking in Chiapas and Oaxaca.
00:24:01.000 At the end of the trip, Mr. Kickingstone was ready to take the next step with Ms.
00:24:03.000 Sage.
00:24:04.000 She, however, felt conflicted.
00:24:06.000 I've always been a little bit of a love skeptic, Ms.
00:24:07.000 Sage said.
00:24:09.000 In February 2014, Ms.
00:24:10.000 Sage, a graduate of Mills College in Oakland, moved back to that city to attend a manicuring program at the International College of Cosmetology.
00:24:17.000 It's like the Harvard of cosmetology.
00:24:19.000 When Mr. Kickingstone broached the subject of moving there himself, she at first was skittish, telling him she didn't want to be the only reason for his move.
00:24:25.000 He assured her she wasn't.
00:24:26.000 I wanted to be around more people of color and radical queer people, Mr. Kickingstone recalled telling Ms.
00:24:30.000 Sage.
00:24:31.000 That April, he moved to Oakland, into a house with nine roommates, one of whom was Ms.
00:24:35.000 Sage, who found out he was moving in when other housemates told her Mr. Kickingstone was their preferred candidate.
00:24:41.000 Three months later, ahead of construction on the property, Kickingstone moved out and into another house.
00:24:46.000 Once living in the same city, he and Ms.
00:24:47.000 Sage decided to stop seeing other people.
00:24:49.000 They remained monogamous for the next year and a half, before opening up their relationship again in October 2015.
00:24:53.000 Their period of monogamy was a way for the two, who had both previously been in polyamorous relationships, to establish trust, Mr. Kickingstone said.
00:25:01.000 As someone who's really flirtatious and had hurt people in the past, I didn't want to hurt him, as I loved him so much.
00:25:07.000 Ah, the romance!
00:25:09.000 The romance.
00:25:09.000 They meet at a radical pagan festival.
00:25:13.000 A woman and another woman who believes that she is a man.
00:25:16.000 And then they lived apart.
00:25:19.000 And then they got together for trans festivals.
00:25:22.000 And then they got together again.
00:25:23.000 And they were monogamous for like a year.
00:25:25.000 And then they decided they both were not monogamous and they would have an open relationship.
00:25:29.000 And then they moved in together.
00:25:31.000 In the early years of their relationship, neither had much of an interest in marriage.
00:25:35.000 Mr. Kickingstone's parents divorced soon after he was born.
00:25:37.000 Ms.
00:25:38.000 Sage's parents were never married.
00:25:40.000 The system has never served us, Ms.
00:25:41.000 Sage said.
00:25:41.000 We queer people have never been seen as fully human as the romance developed, though Mr. Kickingstone became more convinced what they had was worth celebrating.
00:25:49.000 We have to build our own families often because our own don't accept us or are not emotionally available to be the support we need, said Kickingstone.
00:25:55.000 I always wanted a primary partner to build a family with, even though I don't agree with the whole marriage system.
00:26:00.000 And Melody is my person.
00:26:03.000 Well, they finally decided that they would tie the knot in a church.
00:26:07.000 No, that's not what happened.
00:26:08.000 They actually got married at a radical gay festival.
00:26:13.000 And when they did, they had planned for the event to be a symbolic union.
00:26:18.000 But as it neared, the couple decided to incorporate a legal ceremony for purely practical reasons.
00:26:23.000 So Ms.
00:26:24.000 Sage could become entitled to the health benefits offered by Mr. Kickingstone's job, and so she could make his doctor's appointment for him.
00:26:31.000 On June 18th, the couple held a symbolic ceremony at Fern Cottage on the grounds of the Kennedy Grove Regional Recreation Area in El Sobrante, California, led by a friend that included a blessing with crystals and the pagan ritual of invoking the four elements, earth, air, fire, and water.
00:26:45.000 At a reception that followed, they and 50 guests sang karaoke and enjoyed salads and agua fresca from Understory Oakland, a worker-led kitchen and restaurant, along with a spread of charcuterie and cheeses.
00:26:55.000 Less than a week later, the two were married at the Helen Diller Playground in San Francisco's Mission to Loras Park, just before the Trans March kicked off as part of the city's 2022 Pride Celebration.
00:27:05.000 They both wore white denim vests, customized with gold studs, rhinestones, rainbow-colored patterns.
00:27:09.000 By the way, this several thousand words is being dedicated by the New York Times to this, because this is the ideal.
00:27:13.000 This is an ideal marriage, guys.
00:27:14.000 This is the building blocks upon which... These are the little platoons upon which society is formed, as Edmund Burke notes.
00:27:21.000 Those little platoons are a gay woman and a woman who believes she's a man.
00:27:26.000 Getting married at a crystal ceremony celebrating earth, air, fire, and water.
00:27:31.000 It's just... Ahead of the ceremony, Ms.
00:27:33.000 London, this is the person who is presiding, Annie Rose London, acknowledged the indigenous Oakland people, the first inhabitants of the land now known in the Bay Area, before reminding the roughly 30 friends of the couple in attendance for the reason they had gathered that day, so Ms.
00:27:47.000 Sage could get Mr. Kickingstone's health insurance.
00:27:49.000 You see the building blocks of society built upon who can get whose health insurance.
00:27:53.000 This is the meaning of marriage, folks.
00:27:55.000 This is it.
00:27:56.000 And we must guard these sorts of relationships from any sort of societal questions.
00:28:01.000 We must pretend that all of these relationships are purely equivalent in every single way.
00:28:05.000 We must leverage it into law.
00:28:06.000 We must suggest that your children have to learn about this sort of stuff.
00:28:10.000 The magical day when this happened.
00:28:13.000 This must become a part of your child's curriculum in the state of California.
00:28:16.000 Really exciting stuff.
00:28:17.000 And then the left wonders why exactly people feel like the country is coming apart.
00:28:22.000 Maybe it's because you're attacking the fundamental basis of Western civilization and pretending that you're not.
00:28:27.000 Maybe it's because of that.
00:28:28.000 So, whenever I read stories like this, there's always a backlash that occurs from the left-wing types.
00:28:32.000 Like, why are you even paying attention to this?
00:28:34.000 Because it's on the front page of the New York Times website.
00:28:36.000 That's why.
00:28:38.000 So, my favorite game that the left plays is they point out something that is radical, specifically because they hope to shift the debate.
00:28:44.000 And when you notice, they're like, why are you even noticing?
00:28:46.000 I'm noticing because you're doing it.
00:28:48.000 That would be the reason why.
00:28:50.000 And then you wonder why it feels like the country is coming apart at the seams.
00:28:55.000 That would be precisely the reason.
00:28:57.000 So Pete Buttigieg, yesterday, he was on State of the Union.
00:29:02.000 On CNN.
00:29:03.000 And he says, you know, we're not, we on the left, we're not starting the culture wars.
00:29:06.000 So right now the left is pushing through the House.
00:29:08.000 They just pushed through the House with a bunch of Republican votes.
00:29:10.000 A bill that gets rid of the Defense of Marriage Act and essentially enshrines in law Obergefell, which is the Supreme Court case saying that same-sex marriage is purely legally equivalent to heterosexual marriage in every single way.
00:29:22.000 It goes a little bit further than that, actually.
00:29:25.000 But again, it essentially makes the law of the land that you're a bigot if you believe that heterosexual marriage is in any way different or superior to homosexual marriage.
00:29:33.000 And people just say, we're not declaring the culture war.
00:29:35.000 No, you kind of are.
00:29:36.000 You kind of are.
00:29:37.000 And just because the left has been winning the culture war doesn't mean that if you continue to push that you're going to continue to win the culture war.
00:29:43.000 Everybody is pretty tolerant up until the time you start suggesting that they get to teach your kid, that you get to teach their kids your particular form of anti-traditional morality.
00:29:53.000 Here's Pete Buttigieg, who apparently is, he's very fond of speaking up on everything except for transportation policy. When it comes to actually, you know, fixing the supply chain bottleneck, then he's completely uninterested in the job.
00:30:03.000 When it comes to speaking about gay marriage, then of course he is first on the, he's Johnny on the spot. Here's Pete Buttigieg yesterday.
00:30:08.000 In the work that we're doing, we have found that not everybody is prepared to hear about justice and equity in the context of transportation. As if transportation is somehow uniquely immune to the impacts of patterns of exclusion and racial injustice that have touched every other part of our society.
00:30:28.000 So I just want to make clear, we're not the ones looking for culture wars.
00:30:32.000 We're just trying to do what's right, healing the broken places in our country.
00:30:37.000 They're not.
00:30:38.000 They're not looking for culture wars, except for how every single day they're looking for culture wars, right?
00:30:42.000 Of course, in the stretches Not just from issues of marriage, it also stretches to indoctrinating your kids in radical gender ideology.
00:30:51.000 It extends to extending abortion to all stages of pregnancy.
00:30:57.000 And Kamala Harris, the vice president of the United States, yesterday, she was trying to talk about the GOP and abortion, suggesting that, again, there's only one priority when it comes to abortion, and that is the autonomy of a woman over her own body.
00:31:09.000 Forget about the countervailing interest of a child in actually living and not being killed.
00:31:12.000 That apparently does not exist, according to the vice president of the United States.
00:31:16.000 We must stand and say, it is wrong-headed and intended to harm.
00:31:28.000 When you pass laws that deny a woman a right to make decisions about her body, when you pass laws that suggest there's not even an exception for rape or incest, You know, I personally prosecuted cases Involving child sexual assault.
00:31:47.000 It's an uncomfortable topic, people don't want to talk about it, but it's real and it happens.
00:31:51.000 And that child and that woman should not have to endure an act of extreme violence and then not have the ability to have agency and autonomy to decide what happens next.
00:32:05.000 They always use the edge cases, like a 10-year-old gets raped and then wants an abortion.
00:32:09.000 By the way, Very likely, if a 10-year-old gets pregnant, that she's going to need an abortion in order to live, because the simple fact of the matter is that 10-year-olds are generally not capable of bearing children.
00:32:17.000 But, Kamala Harris, there's a key phrase that she uses there.
00:32:20.000 Intended to harm.
00:32:21.000 The idea is that if you oppose her, you intend to harm.
00:32:21.000 Right?
00:32:24.000 And the same thing from Pete Buttigieg.
00:32:25.000 If you oppose anything in Pete Buttigieg's agenda, it's not because you have disagreements over the societal standard that ought to be applied to human behavior.
00:32:32.000 No, it's intended to harm.
00:32:34.000 It's intended to harm.
00:32:35.000 This is part and parcel of a broader leftist rubric, whereby if you disagree with them, you're not just the culture warriors, you are the people who are putting the country on the brink of disaster.
00:32:45.000 And then, if you notice this, if you say, guys, you're tearing the country apart, that is when the media jump in and they say, well, you're the ones who are provoking.
00:32:53.000 So if you push to the left, push to the left, if you greenlight riots in the middle of 2020, If you, like Vice President Harris, try to bail out rioters in the middle of riots in 2020, if you push on the idea that children can be boys or girls and they should be taught that boys can be girls and girls can be boys, if you suggest that all forms of human sexual relations are morally equivalent and that that must be taught at every level and enshrined in every area of American law, if you suggest that any restriction on abortion whatsoever is an attack on a woman,
00:33:22.000 And then people say no.
00:33:23.000 Then the idea is that they're the ones who are starting the civil war.
00:33:26.000 And this is how you end up with a piece by Dave Weigel in the Washington Post titled, On the Campaign Trail, Many Republicans Talk of Violence.
00:33:32.000 In both swing states and safe seats, Republican candidates say that liberals hate them personally and may turn rioters or a police state on people who disobey them.
00:33:39.000 I wonder why people might have that thought.
00:33:41.000 I wonder why people might have the radical thought that there are people on the left who hate their guts.
00:33:47.000 Why would they think that after listening to the Vice President of the United States say that if you're pro-life it's because you have intent to harm?
00:33:53.000 Why might they think that?
00:33:55.000 Why might they think, after listening to Pete Buttigieg suggest, repeatedly, that you're a bad person if you disagree that homosexual marriage and heterosexual marriage are morally equivalent?
00:34:05.000 This means that you're a bigot.
00:34:06.000 Why might they think that they are under some sort of dire threat?
00:34:09.000 Why?
00:34:10.000 It's all a mystery wrapped in an enigma.
00:34:12.000 When they listen, To people on the left suggest that disagreement amounts to a form of violence and that they are about to overthrow the country.
00:34:21.000 Why do you think people might feel a little bit threatened?
00:34:22.000 For example, Al Gore, he's back out of the woodwork now because it's really hot.
00:34:25.000 Every time it gets hot during the summer, we call Al Gore out of the woodwork to fly his private jet into the green room at CNN and explain just why things are so bad.
00:34:33.000 Al Gore over the weekend suggested that people who disagree with him on the climate are like the Uvalde officers who allowed a mass shooter to murder children in a classroom while doing nothing.
00:34:44.000 Here is Al Gore, who's gotten extremely rich being a green advocate while raking in the green.
00:34:52.000 You know, the climate deniers are really in some ways similar to all of those almost 400 law enforcement officers in Uvalde, Texas, who were waiting outside an unlocked door while the children were being massacred.
00:35:11.000 They heard the screams, they heard the gunshots, and nobody stepped forward.
00:35:17.000 And God bless those families who've suffered so much.
00:35:20.000 And law enforcement officials tell us that's not typical of what Law enforcement usually does.
00:35:27.000 And confronted with this global emergency, what we're doing with our inaction and failing to walk through the door and stop the killing is not typical of what we are capable of as human beings.
00:35:41.000 Well, it's just, it's the same.
00:35:43.000 Why might you think that people like Al Gore hate you?
00:35:46.000 Why?
00:35:46.000 It's again, giant mysteries.
00:35:48.000 MSNBC's Malcolm Nance.
00:35:50.000 So Malcolm Nance, he and I appeared together on Bill Maher where he suggested that every Republican was complicit in January 6th and wanted to overthrow the government and that we were at the moment when democracy was going to be overthrown by these people.
00:36:00.000 But if you notice that that's extreme radical rhetoric that bores on the civil war type of rhetoric that Yeah, has been common throughout American history, unfortunately.
00:36:12.000 If you note that, then that's because you want this award.
00:36:14.000 Here's MSNBC's Malcolm Nance predicting that there will be no more elections ever if Republicans win, which, by the way, is kind of a Civil War-like call, right?
00:36:23.000 The suggestion is, if your opponents win, it's the end of the country.
00:36:26.000 What choice do you have but to use every tool at your disposal to stop them from winning?
00:36:30.000 Here's Malcolm Nance.
00:36:31.000 The Democrats, Joe Biden, all the rest of them need to understand.
00:36:35.000 They are, what are we?
00:36:36.000 July, August, September, October, November.
00:36:37.000 You are four months from the end of American democracy.
00:36:41.000 Four months.
00:36:41.000 And we said that in 2020, and that was true then too, right?
00:36:45.000 But now, now you're talking about Putting a party in power in which there will never be another election.
00:36:53.000 They will vote through every piece of legislation and defund every component of the United States government.
00:37:00.000 They're not joking about impeaching Joe Biden every week.
00:37:04.000 Okay.
00:37:05.000 And Kamala Harris and getting rid of people or expanding the Supreme Court, whatever it is they think they can do, even though some of it's crazy.
00:37:13.000 First thing that they said, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert said, we will criminally prosecute every person who took part in the January 6th investigation.
00:37:24.000 Guys, if we don't stop those evil, evil people who disagree with us, they're going to burn down the country.
00:37:28.000 So we'll use every means at our disposal.
00:37:30.000 Why might Republicans feel threatened?
00:37:33.000 I don't understand.
00:37:34.000 They're only attacking, the left is only saying that if you back fundamental societal institutions, It's because you're a bigot.
00:37:40.000 And if you notice health statistics, it's probably because you're a bigot.
00:37:43.000 And if you are a person who does not agree with Al Gore on climate, it's because you're essentially a passive murderer.
00:37:50.000 And also you want to overthrow elections.
00:37:51.000 But probably there are people who want to live with you.
00:37:53.000 The people who are saying this sort of stuff.
00:37:54.000 Probably.
00:37:55.000 They keep saying that you're a nut if you're worried that the left hates your guts and actually wants to target you in any way.
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00:40:14.000 So with the left on the march through our societal institutions ripping apart pretty much all of the things that traditionally have been the foundations and pillars of that civilization, the media are noticing that Republicans are getting mad about that and are feeling under threat.
00:40:33.000 And why should they feel under threat?
00:40:34.000 After all, we're only threatening them.
00:40:36.000 Why should they feel under threat?
00:40:37.000 Dave Weigel has a long piece of the Washington Post discussing this quote.
00:40:40.000 In both swing states and safe seats, many Republicans say liberals hate them personally and may turn rioters or a police state on people who disobey them.
00:40:47.000 OK, so first of all, by polling data, a lot of liberals hate conservatives personally.
00:40:51.000 I mean, let's just point out that when it comes to which people say that they have friends on the other side of the aisle, many, many more conservatives than liberals say they have friends on the other side of the aisle.
00:41:01.000 We know this.
00:41:01.000 I mean, listen, in my job, It is an actively career-dangerous move for people on the left to openly talk to me, to say hello to me.
00:41:10.000 So yes, I get it.
00:41:12.000 To pretend that this isn't happening is to stick your head in the sand, but of course, Weigel works for the Washington Post, so of course, he's going to pretend like, why are they so worried?
00:41:20.000 Why are they so upset?
00:41:21.000 Referring to the coronavirus and 2020 protests over police brutality, state delegate Stan Cox in the state of Maryland He said, quote, Wait, I'm waiting to hear the part that's controversial.
00:41:33.000 Seriously, I don't understand the controversial part of that.
00:41:34.000 I was in Los Angeles, and the Black Lives Matter rioters were allowed to burn cop cars all the way down Melrose Avenue.
00:41:38.000 to defend our families with?
00:41:40.000 That's why we have the Second Amendment.
00:41:41.000 Okay, wait, I'm waiting to hear the part that's controversial.
00:41:45.000 Seriously, I don't understand the controversial part of that.
00:41:47.000 I was in Los Angeles, and the Black Lives Matter rioters were allowed to burn cop cars all the way down Melrose Avenue.
00:41:53.000 Rioters hit the Walgreens about half a mile from us in one direction, and a footlocker about half a mile in the other direction.
00:42:00.000 And the police officers with whom I was friends were telling me that they were getting active orders from the top downs who allow this sort of stuff to happen.
00:42:08.000 Yes, people need guns in order to protect themselves when the police are told to stand aside by the politicians.
00:42:14.000 I don't know what is remotely controversial about this, but again, the idea is that Republicans are the aggressors here for noticing.
00:42:19.000 The rhetoric is bracing, if not entirely new.
00:42:22.000 Liberal commentators made liberal use of the word fascism to describe Trump's presidency.
00:42:25.000 The baseless theory that Barack Obama was undermining American power as a foreign agent was popular with some Republicans, including Trump, who succeeded Obama in the White House.
00:42:32.000 Many Democrats saw the backlash to Obama as specific to his race and saw Biden as unlikely to inspire mass opposition to Trump in the presidential election.
00:42:39.000 But many Republicans also portray Biden as a malevolent figure, a vessel for a hateful leftist campaign to weaken America.
00:42:45.000 Again, why is this like a top news story at the Washington Post that a lot of people who are conservative see Biden as an empty vessel for a movement that does not have the best interests of the country at heart?
00:42:56.000 Why?
00:42:57.000 I failed to understand.
00:42:58.000 But again, it's always Republicans' pounds.
00:43:00.000 Every story from the media is Republicans' pounds.
00:43:02.000 No matter how far left the left moves, no matter how dangerous their rhetoric, it's Republicans' pounds.
00:43:06.000 It doesn't matter, by the way, if a person tries to assassinate a gubernatorial candidate in New York.
00:43:11.000 The Republican nominee for governor, Lee Zeldin, was attacked by a person wielding a sharp implement who is trying to hurt him and kill him.
00:43:20.000 This lasted in the media for less than a day.
00:43:22.000 This was not a story.
00:43:24.000 As Lee Zeldin pointed out, the attacker was telling me, you're done.
00:43:28.000 If I were a Democrat, don't you think this would be a top national news story for like a year?
00:43:33.000 Here was Lee Zeldin pointing this out over the weekend.
00:43:36.000 Now the way that I'm wired, when I see somebody wearing a hat that says that they're a veteran, my guard couldn't possibly be more dropped.
00:43:44.000 But at the same exact time, I noticed he had a weapon in his hand.
00:43:49.000 And it had two holes where he had two fingers through the holes.
00:43:52.000 It had two sharp dagger-like edges on it.
00:43:57.000 And he was telling me, you're done.
00:44:01.000 Okay, again, would this be a top news story if it were the other way around?
00:44:04.000 Of course it would be a top news story, but it wasn't a top news story when a Bernie Sanders acolyte shot a bunch of Republican congresspeople at a congressional baseball game.
00:44:12.000 That wasn't news for more than a week.
00:44:14.000 So, yeah, I mean, you wonder why Republicans feel under threat.
00:44:18.000 According to former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, quote, it's purposeful.
00:44:20.000 It's all about the fundamental transformation of America.
00:44:23.000 You only fundamentally transform something for which you have disdain.
00:44:27.000 According to Dave Wagle at the Washington Post, that argument has been dramatized in ads that show, for instance, one armed candidate appearing to charge into the home of a political enemy and another warning of the mob that threatens ordinary Americans.
00:44:38.000 I love the linkage.
00:44:39.000 So if you say that there are a lot of people on the left, Who fundamentally do not like the principles of the United States, which they say, they openly say they don't like the Constitution.
00:44:46.000 They openly say that the principles upon which the United States is based, that those principles are malevolent and bad.
00:44:53.000 That those principles are rooted in racism and bigotry and power dynamics.
00:44:57.000 I mean, this is mainstream politicians on the left who say this sort of stuff.
00:45:01.000 But if you notice this, then this puts you in the same category as like Eric Greitens, who cuts an ad bursting into a guy's house with a gun, who's in his own party, by the way.
00:45:10.000 So the goal of the left-wing media is to link all of this together.
00:45:13.000 To link all of it together.
00:45:16.000 So, and the idea is that Republicans, there's no reason why Republicans ought to be worried in any way.
00:45:23.000 Republicans instead ought to be very complacent about the left-wing social change that is taking place in the United States of America.
00:45:30.000 It's really a problem, says Dave Weigel.
00:45:34.000 So it's it is an amazing thing.
00:45:37.000 The people who suggest that you are a threat to the Republic are saying that if you notice that they say this and you feel threatened, then this is because you are the extremist.
00:45:45.000 This is the little game that they love to play.
00:45:48.000 That game isn't going to work because again, we all have eyes and we all have ears.
00:45:52.000 Alright, we'll be back here later today with additional content.
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