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Evil Isn’t A Sickness | The Ben Shapiro Show Ep. 731


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Ben Shapiro: Michael Jackson's legacy crumbles as charges of pedophilia, illegal immigration surges, and Democrats ignore anti-Semitism once again to cover for the fresh faces. Ben Shapiro: Why Michael Jackson was an evil, depraved human being who preyed upon children. Leaving Neverland, a new documentary by Dan Reed, examines how depraved Michael Jackson really was, and how people are having a hard time connecting the two, because of the halo effect and the "halo effect" that surrounds people who are good at one thing and good at all things, and why they tend to think that rich people know what they're doing when it comes to everything. And why it's a wonder there's any brand left to defend, given that four men have now made detailed, credible claims that Jackson sexually abused them as minors over a period of time. The Ben Shapiro Show is on all of the social medias, if you search for it, you'll find it. Go check out the folks making the best rifles on the market. That's Bravo Company Manufacturing. If you need more convincing, check out Bravo Co.MFG on YouTube, also at BravoCoFoundationMFG. You can't ask for much more than that, right? Check out the Bravo Co Foundation on YouTube at BravocoFoundationUSA at YouTube at YouTube: BravoCoMFG at YouTube. To learn more about Bravo Co Manufacturing, head on over to BravoCoFMG at YouTube and check out their website at Bravo CoFGM at YouTube, that is a company that makes the best assault rifles in the market in the world, check it out! That is Bravo CoGMFG at That's website at YouTube : Bravo CoMGF at YouTube . That s Bravo CoFoundation LLC at YouTube that is BravoCoMGF @ YouTube: That s The Best Rifles on the Market? Go Check Out The Best Pistols on The Market by Bravo Co Founder: Bravo Co Foundations at YouTube @ Bravo Cofounders LLC at That s Best Ropes at That Is Bravo CoFG @ That s Covers the Market at the Same Time: That Is My Name: That is Covers The Most Beautiful People Are Good at All Things Good At All Things I'm Good At That Is Good at One Thing by Kyle Smith on National Review on National Rants on the Podcasts on the Internet at National Review: This Is My First Take on Michael Jackson s Sexual Orientation


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00:00:00.000 Michael Jackson's legacy crumbles under charges of pedophilia, illegal immigration surges, and Democrats ignore anti-Semitism once again to cover for the fresh faces.
00:00:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
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00:01:38.000 Alrighty, well we have a lot to get to today in terms of the news, but there's been a cultural shift that's been happening, a cultural moment that's been happening surrounding Michael Jackson.
00:01:47.000 It's way past due, and it is testament to the innate ability of human beings to cover for people that they consider talented.
00:01:53.000 There's something in psychology called the halo effect.
00:01:56.000 The halo effect essentially suggests that if you think somebody is good at one thing, it means you think they are good at all things.
00:02:01.000 So you tend to think that beautiful people are smart.
00:02:04.000 You tend to think that people who are smart at one thing are smart at all the things.
00:02:07.000 You tend to think that rich people know what they're doing when it comes to everything.
00:02:11.000 That's just a normal human tendency.
00:02:13.000 We tend to make snap judgments about people, and then we take those judgments too far, and we generalize more broadly.
00:02:19.000 Well, two things are true of Michael Jackson.
00:02:21.000 Immensely talented human being, evil pedophile, right?
00:02:25.000 Those two things are true of Michael Jackson, at least if the allegations are to be believed, which all evidence suggests they should be.
00:02:31.000 And people are having a really tough time connecting those two.
00:02:35.000 They're having a really tough time overcoming the cognitive dissonance of, I like Michael Jackson's music, and I was a big fan of his when I was 10, with Michael Jackson was an evil human being who preyed upon children.
00:02:46.000 Now, both of those things can be true.
00:02:48.000 And this new documentary, Leaving Neverland on HBO, which I've been watching, is indeed extraordinarily upsetting.
00:02:56.000 It demonstrates how depraved Michael Jackson was.
00:02:59.000 There's a piece in National Review by Kyle Smith talking about this.
00:03:04.000 He says, debuting on March 3rd and 4th after a previous series of screening at the Sundance Film Festival, this enraging film by Dan Reed inspired a lawsuit against the Pay Cable channel from Jackson's estate, which desperately wants people not to see a story that may significantly diminish the value of his brand.
00:03:18.000 It's a wonder there's any brand left to defend, given that four men have now made detailed, credible claims that Jackson sexually abused them as minors over extended periods of time.
00:03:27.000 James Safechuck, a child actor, first met Jackson at nine while filming a famous 1988 Pepsi commercial in which he's excitedly examining Jackson's dressing room when the singer pops in.
00:03:36.000 The commercial, Safechuck says, genuinely captured his first glimpse of the celebrity.
00:03:40.000 Around the same time, Wade Robeson, then five, met Jackson after putting on a dazzling performance in a dance contest In Australia, causing the singer to bring the boy on stage for concerts and invite him to show his moves in front of a huge crowd.
00:03:51.000 When the Australian tour wound down, Jackson invited the boy to look him up in LA sometime.
00:03:55.000 Driven by his mother, Joy, the family managed to make contact with Jackson on vacation when the boy was seven.
00:04:00.000 Jackson immediately invited the Robeson family to stay at his huge ranch at Neverland.
00:04:04.000 Wade and his 10-year-old sister were allowed to sleep in Jackson's room.
00:04:07.000 Days later, Jackson talked the family into allowing Wade to stay behind with him while the rest of the family went to the Grand Canyon.
00:04:12.000 You and I were brought together by God, Robeson recalls Jackson, saying we were meant to be together.
00:04:17.000 And this is us showing each other that we love each other.
00:04:19.000 This is how we show our love.
00:04:20.000 Jackson then fondled the boy and guided the child to his own genitals.
00:04:23.000 And Jackson initiated oral sex and guided the boy to follow suit.
00:04:27.000 Robeson recalls Jackson telling him other people are ignorant and they're stupid.
00:04:30.000 They never understand.
00:04:31.000 If they ever found out what we were doing, we'd be pulled apart.
00:04:34.000 He and I would go to jail for the rest of our lives.
00:04:37.000 Later, at Jackson's coaxing, after Jackson called Wade every day for two years and kept him on the phone for up to seven hours at a time, Joyce simply moved with Wade and her daughter from Australia to SoCal, leaving her husband and other son behind, a move that ultimately destroyed the family.
00:04:51.000 Wade's father would later commit suicide.
00:04:53.000 Safechuck's story follows a similar pattern.
00:04:55.000 He recalls being lured quickly into Jackson's bed at age 10.
00:04:58.000 His starstruck mother Stephanie was disarmed by Jackson's childlike demeanor and began thinking of the pop star as her own son.
00:05:04.000 Save Chuck's memories of Jackson's sexual abuse are familiar to Robeson's.
00:05:07.000 Jackson staged a mock wedding ceremony, Robeson recalls, in which the singer presented the boy with a ring lined with diamonds.
00:05:13.000 He would reward me with jewelry for doing sexual acts for him.
00:05:17.000 You'll remember that in 1995, he settled a civil suit for a reported $23 million after being accused of sexual abuse by Jordan Chandler, who was arrested in 2003, again, on charges of serially molesting a 13-year-old named Gavin Arvizo, a cancer-stricken boy he had met through a charity.
00:05:34.000 During his criminal trial, Jackson urged both Safechuck and Robeson, now adults, to testify he had done nothing inappropriate with them.
00:05:39.000 Safechuck simply declined, and in his silence, he incurred Jackson's wrath.
00:05:42.000 He threatened me with his lawyers and said I had perjured myself years ago, he recalls.
00:05:46.000 The lawyers would get me, he says Jackson told him.
00:05:49.000 At the same time, Robeson recalls he was still somewhat attached to Jackson.
00:05:53.000 He panicked at the thought of the singer in prison and what might happen to him there.
00:05:56.000 Perhaps Jackson would even be murdered behind bars, he thought.
00:05:58.000 So he lied, offering false testimony that Jackson had not done anything sexual to him.
00:06:03.000 For Gavin, I wish I was a place where I could tell the truth and be a comrade with him, Robeson says now.
00:06:06.000 I just wasn't ready.
00:06:09.000 His testimony and that of actor Macaulay Culkin, another man who'd spent a lot of time with Jackson as a boy, probably swayed the jury.
00:06:15.000 He was acquitted on all counts with Jackson in 2005 and died, of course, in 2009.
00:06:20.000 The final 45 minutes or so of the documentary does delve into the depression and torment as well as that of their mothers, each of whom searches her soul at excruciating length.
00:06:29.000 Well, there are a bunch of lessons to be learned here.
00:06:31.000 Well, some of those lessons include, again, our capacity for cognitive dissonance, blinding us to the reality about human beings.
00:06:37.000 Second, the worship of celebrity that we have in our society.
00:06:41.000 The rise of a television and movie culture, the rise of an entertainment culture that puts celebrities before our faces all the time makes us think that we know celebrities.
00:06:50.000 It used to be that people who were very famous felt distant and far off.
00:06:53.000 Now people who are very famous feel very close to us.
00:06:55.000 And so it's very difficult for us to believe that those people could actually be evil and participating in acts of evil.
00:07:01.000 That sort of stuff is something that we all ought to keep in mind, whether we are talking politics or entertainment.
00:07:07.000 When we're engaging with the public world, it is deeply important for us to recognize that human beings are still human beings, even if they are rich, powerful, and famous.
00:07:14.000 And maybe even more so then, because fame and wealth And power.
00:07:19.000 These things allow people to gratify their worst urges and lead other people to basically give them the okay to do so.
00:07:27.000 Thinking, of course, that the person wouldn't be rich, powerful, and famous unless they were also morally good.
00:07:30.000 Now, this also has raised some serious issues about pedophilia itself.
00:07:35.000 And it demonstrates what we have lost as a society when we decided that biological urges on any level are incentive to, are basically an excuse to do what we want.
00:07:46.000 We have a very weird divide in the Western psyche right now when it comes to biological urges.
00:07:52.000 On the one hand, we believe that biological urges give us moral impetus to do the things that we want to do.
00:07:57.000 So if you want to have sex before marriage, you have a biological impetus to have sex before marriage.
00:08:00.000 That means it's okay to have sex before marriage.
00:08:02.000 At the same time, there are obvious biological urges that people don't want to give the go-ahead to because they're in fact evil.
00:08:10.000 So if a man has a biological urge to rape a woman, Then we say, no, you're not allowed to do that.
00:08:16.000 You are evil.
00:08:17.000 Your biological urge does not overcome.
00:08:20.000 And yet it's that broad blanket statement that biological urges are somehow an excuse.
00:08:23.000 That in the Lady Gaga morality, born this way is somehow an excuse for behave this way.
00:08:30.000 That's deeply troubling.
00:08:31.000 Now again, I'm not comparing homosexuality to pedophilia because they are completely not the same thing.
00:08:35.000 One is a consenting relationship between two adults and another is the exploitation of a child.
00:08:40.000 The point that I'm making Is that as a general rule, a society that fails to draw moral lines around things like consent, and instead draws moral lines around things like biological drive or biological urge, is a society that is going to fall apart at the seams.
00:08:54.000 And it seems that we are moving in that direction.
00:08:56.000 That we have failed to allow morality to guide our views of personal behavior.
00:09:03.000 And once we don't start setting human limits to the biological urges that we have, we get ourselves in some very serious trouble.
00:09:11.000 The reason I'm bringing this up is there's a column from Dahlia Lithwick, who is a legal analyst, very famous legal analyst actually, writing over at Slate.com, in which she has a piece called, Is Pedophilia a Crime or an Illness?
00:09:22.000 We've Never Quite Known Whether Child Molesters Should Be Treated as Sick People or Punished as Criminals.
00:09:27.000 She says, "On Sunday, HBO premieres Finding Neverland.
00:09:31.000 Again, and for all the wrong reasons, we can't take our eyes off Michael Jackson.
00:09:34.000 Whether or not the allegations are substantiated, the question is in the air.
00:09:37.000 Is pedophilia a disease to be treated or a crime to be punished?
00:09:40.000 Are people who seduce minors sick or evil?
00:09:42.000 Our current legal and medical systems blur both views.
00:09:45.000 We call for the most draconian punishments, life imprisonment, castration, permanent exile, precisely because we view these acts as morally heinous, yet also driven by uncontrollable biological urges." If sex with children is truly the product of freely made moral decisions, then we should deal with it through the criminal justice system.
00:10:01.000 But if it is a genetically overdetermined impulse, an uncontrollable urge nestled in our DNA, then punishing pedophiles must be morally wrong, is what Dahlia Lithwick writes.
00:10:08.000 As science and culture increasingly medicalizes bad behavior, finding a neurological component to everything from alcoholism to youth violence, we run the parallel risks of either absolving everyone for everything or punishing criminals who are no guiltier than cancer patients.
00:10:22.000 What science has revealed, says Lithwick, about the moral medical roots of pedophiles is, of course, ambiguous.
00:10:27.000 What is clear is that the binary choice laid out above is an oversimplification.
00:10:30.000 The medical community, which started to view pedophilia as a disease rather than a crime in the 19th century, has amassed evidence that at least some violent and antisocial behaviors have genetic links and signposts.
00:10:40.000 Researchers have been unable to isolate a biological cause for pedophilia or even to agree on a personality profile, not to mention the terrific confusion within the medical community in defining what this disease really involves.
00:10:52.000 Until a few years ago, for example, the DSM-IV, the Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, defined pedophilia as a disease only if the sufferer's fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
00:11:10.000 In other words, a non-impaired remorseless pedophile is apparently perfectly healthy.
00:11:13.000 By the way, it is worth noting that that is exactly the same language that the DSM-5 now uses with regard to transgenderism.
00:11:19.000 They suggest that transgenderism is not, in fact, a mental disorder unless it causes clinically significant distress or impairment.
00:11:26.000 So what we have been doing is medicalizing.
00:11:29.000 And again, transgenderism is not the same as pedophilia.
00:11:32.000 Transgenderism is an adult making a decision, presumably, to behave in a certain way that does not impact other people in violation of their consent.
00:11:40.000 Pedophilia is, of course, the exploitation of children.
00:11:42.000 I keep repeating this because there are going to be people who don't understand the argument that I'm making and seek to conflate all of these things.
00:11:49.000 They are not the same.
00:11:50.000 Homosexuality is not the same as pedophilia, is not the same as transgenderism.
00:11:53.000 Pedophilia is something apart because it is morally evil.
00:11:56.000 Because it is morally evil.
00:11:57.000 But the point that I'm making is that when we medicalize evil, then we also run into the danger of suggesting that human behavior is not controllable and that we are not responsible for our actions.
00:12:09.000 And that is the death of a civilization.
00:12:11.000 I'll talk about that in just a second.
00:12:13.000 But first, folks, I've had it with Congress.
00:12:14.000 The folks in Congress right now, they are lunatics.
00:12:17.000 Plus, the executive branch is growing out of control.
00:12:19.000 You know, the Constitution was designed to prevent the federal government from taking all of our freedom and from using that freedom against us.
00:12:26.000 Well, the federal government has overgrown all of its boundaries, which is why we need to restore the original bargain of the Constitution, the checks and balances that were originally established to prevent this sort of domination of our freedom.
00:12:36.000 This is why I'm a big believer in calling a convention of states where we the people can propose amendments.
00:12:41.000 Yes, amendments.
00:12:42.000 We've got to stop these idiots before it's too late.
00:12:44.000 The only way to do that is to restore the greatest ideology ever created, the constitutional ideology of the Founding Fathers.
00:12:50.000 Can you imagine the looks on the faces of the people in the federal government when they realize that their power has been restricted?
00:12:55.000 Calling a Convention of States is the only way to get the job done.
00:12:58.000 There are already 3.8 million people with us on this, more every day.
00:13:01.000 So join me and my friend Mark Meckler.
00:13:03.000 Go to conventionofstates.com/ben and sign the petition today.
00:13:06.000 That is conventionofstates.com/ben.
00:13:09.000 They have tremendous amounts of support.
00:13:11.000 You should join them.
00:13:11.000 There are already 3.8 million people using conventionofstates.com.
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00:13:17.000 The reason that I bring up the Dahlia Lithwick column is because she suggests this dichotomy, and the dichotomy is basically correct.
00:13:23.000 She says it's oversimplified, but it really is not.
00:13:25.000 It's basically right.
00:13:26.000 She suggests that if sex with children is truly the product of freely made moral choices, We should deal with it through the criminal justice system.
00:13:33.000 If it is genetically over-determined impulse and uncontrollable urge, then we can't punish pedophiles.
00:13:38.000 But here is the point.
00:13:40.000 The belief in a free-functioning, free society has to be that reasonable human beings have the capacity to overcome their biological instincts.
00:13:48.000 That human beings have the capacity to overcome their tribal affinities.
00:13:52.000 That human beings have the capacity to overcome their urges.
00:13:55.000 If we don't believe that, we cannot have a republic.
00:13:57.000 And here is where psychology shades into politics.
00:14:00.000 We are now living in a world in which we are told that we don't control our own behavior.
00:14:05.000 That our behavior is controlled by impersonal forces far beyond us.
00:14:09.000 That there is institutional racism, sexism, bigotry, homophobia.
00:14:12.000 That controls your life.
00:14:13.000 That it is the broad-based economics of the American system that have determined the future of your life.
00:14:20.000 None of that is true.
00:14:23.000 That your tribal affinity, that your membership in a particular racial clan, that that determines how you will be treated and how the rest of your life is laid out for you.
00:14:31.000 None of that is true.
00:14:33.000 That your choices are not your own.
00:14:34.000 Once you believe your choices are not your own, you end up justifying all sorts of evil behavior.
00:14:38.000 Once you believe that choices cannot be freely made in contravention of biology and tribal affinity, it's very difficult to have a functioning republic.
00:14:48.000 And this is why, in the end, I have an entire book coming out about the subject.
00:14:53.000 The bargain between Jerusalem and Athens, between religion and reason, is deeply necessary.
00:14:59.000 We'll talk about more of this in just a second.
00:15:00.000 So, I have a new book coming out.
00:15:01.000 It's called The Right Side of History.
00:15:02.000 It comes out in a couple of weeks.
00:15:03.000 And the central contention that the book makes is that all of human life is based on a certain number of premises that we have to assume.
00:15:11.000 That all of Western civilization is based on certain things that we take for granted.
00:15:15.000 And many of those things that we take for granted are things that we actually get from religious premises.
00:15:20.000 So we all take for granted Greek reason, right?
00:15:22.000 The idea that we can reason our way in and out of problems.
00:15:25.000 Science is an outgrowth of this belief in human reason and our capacity to reason.
00:15:30.000 But even that capacity for reason is based on even deeper roots.
00:15:34.000 That capacity for reason is based on the idea that you are a free individual capable of exercising a logic that exists outside of you.
00:15:42.000 That you are a free individual, not completely bound down by biology, capable of making choices.
00:15:48.000 That you are not just a cluster of meat wandering through the universe, reacting to the environment around you.
00:15:52.000 You know, there's a famous philosopher named Baruch Spinoza, and Spinoza, Benedict Spinoza, he suggested that basically human beings were a stone that had been cast by fate, and that we thought that we had willed our own motion, but basically we didn't.
00:16:08.000 We're just along for the ride.
00:16:10.000 All of Western civilization is based on the opposite of that.
00:16:12.000 The idea that you do will your own action, that you have the capacity to will your own action.
00:16:16.000 And in politics, that you are in control of the decisions that you make.
00:16:20.000 And that in your personal life, you are in control of the decisions that you make.
00:16:22.000 That responsibility is the key to a fruitful exchange.
00:16:26.000 That you can't reason with people who don't believe they're responsible for their own actions.
00:16:29.000 That reason itself is undermined by the belief that human beings are not freely capable of making choices.
00:16:36.000 That is the conundrum we find ourselves in.
00:16:39.000 We've made excuses for ourselves as a society, blaming all of our activities on outside forces or internal forces.
00:16:46.000 But the freer you think of yourself, the more you think of yourself as a free actor, acting in a free country, the more responsible you're going to be, the better you're going to be, because the more responsible you are for your own actions.
00:16:56.000 Right now, we have a society that is dedicated to removing responsibility from people, and then, simultaneously, in fits and starts, we will try to restore responsibility for certain people.
00:17:06.000 We'll try to go back and fill in the gaps and explain why Michael Jackson should be abhorred, even though we've undercut a lot of the rationale for abhorring Michael Jackson.
00:17:18.000 Michael Jackson should be abhorred.
00:17:19.000 He participated in evil activity.
00:17:20.000 He was a free adult.
00:17:21.000 One of the freest people on earth, given his wealth and his fame.
00:17:26.000 And he chose to do evil things.
00:17:28.000 And his biological urge was not enough to excuse that.
00:17:32.000 And the same thing is true for all of us living in the freest country in the history of the world.
00:17:36.000 Now, I'm not talking that we're all pedophiles, but we all make decisions on a daily basis for which we are responsible.
00:17:41.000 And looking to society, or looking to biological urges, or looking to anything else to blame for our own behavior is a deep problem for a civilization that hopes to continue functioning.
00:17:53.000 If you want a democracy, if you want a republic, you have to believe that you are a free actor capable of acting morally.
00:17:59.000 Both of those elements.
00:18:00.000 You are free, you are capable of making decisions, and you are capable of acting in a moral fashion.
00:18:05.000 Now again, I am not saying that... I'm not even talking about which behavior is moral and which behavior is immoral from a generic secular sense.
00:18:14.000 Because I think that we can obviously make distinctions between pedophilia and all other sorts of crime.
00:18:19.000 Or all other sorts of behavior.
00:18:21.000 With that said, the generalized point, which is that we're going to have to stop pathologizing evil, that it can be true that you have a pathology toward doing something bad, but that you still have the capacity to overcome, that is the essence of Western civilization.
00:18:34.000 And that is being ripped away from us.
00:18:37.000 The only reason we're even having this conversation about whether Michael Jackson should have been basically treated as an ill person or as an evil person is because we have lost the capacity to see evil for what it is.
00:18:48.000 Choices freely made by human beings capable of making those choices in contravention of their own biology.
00:18:55.000 It used to be that you'd be able to say, yes, both.
00:18:57.000 Yes, both.
00:18:58.000 He's a sick person with a drive toward doing sick things.
00:19:01.000 And also, he's an adult capable of overcoming that.
00:19:05.000 But once we decide that we're not in control of our own actions, it's very difficult to make the case for Western civilization, for individualism.
00:19:11.000 It's very difficult to make the case for human rights, frankly, because human rights, again, are based on this idea that we are each individuals created in the image of God, and that we have the capacity to make decisions freely and of our own will.
00:19:24.000 You want to restore a system where people believe in right and wrong?
00:19:28.000 And where we are responsible for one another?
00:19:31.000 And where we don't hurt each other?
00:19:32.000 We're gonna have to go back to a system where we assume that your decisions are your own, and not the product of some other evolutionary force, or some product of some other environmental force beyond your control.
00:19:43.000 Now, again, that's not to say there aren't biological forces driving us.
00:19:46.000 There are.
00:19:47.000 That's not to say there aren't environmental forces that put pressures on us.
00:19:50.000 There are.
00:19:51.000 The question is how we shape those environmental forces to get them off our back.
00:19:55.000 But the goal has to be shaping those environmental forces to get them off our back, to maximize human freedom, to maximize the human capacity, because the rights, the freedom, they come with duties.
00:20:06.000 You cannot have duties without rights, and you cannot have rights without duties.
00:20:09.000 And we as a society have decided to bifurcate the two.
00:20:12.000 We want the rights without the duties, or we want the duties without the rights.
00:20:15.000 You can't have it both ways.
00:20:19.000 Freedom comes with responsibility.
00:20:22.000 Not because we want you to be responsible, but because it simply does.
00:20:27.000 You cannot be a free person if you are incapable of making choices.
00:20:30.000 Freedom comes with your capacity and responsibility to choose.
00:20:34.000 All righty, meanwhile, on a more sort of political note, the illegal immigration surge at the border is continuing.
00:20:41.000 Now the media have finally decided to report on it.
00:20:43.000 Amazing how for two months they said nothing about illegal immigration surging at the border during the government shutdown and while President Trump was pushing Democrats to compromise over immigration.
00:20:51.000 Pretty incredible.
00:20:53.000 But now they're reporting on it, so better late than never, I suppose.
00:20:55.000 The New York Times has a big piece today called Border Patrol Facilities Put Detainees With Medical Conditions At Risk, talking about the underfunding of Border Patrol.
00:21:04.000 They point out that Border Patrol simply does not have the resources to deal with this massive influx of migrants.
00:21:10.000 They say an average of 2,200 migrants a day are now crossing the nation's 1,900-mile border with Mexico, many after grueling journeys that leave them injured, sick, or badly dehydrated.
00:21:20.000 Yet most of the nation's customs and border protection facilities along the border lack sufficient accommodations, staffing, or procedures to thoroughly assess health needs or provide more than basic emergency care, a situation that has led to dangerous medical oversights.
00:21:33.000 I don't remember the New York Times reporting this while the entire Democratic Party talked about disbanding ICE and underfunding CBD.
00:21:39.000 I don't remember that at all.
00:21:41.000 But now I guess the media is catching on.
00:21:43.000 Also the media are reporting that a record number of families are now crossing the border.
00:21:48.000 This is according to the Washington Post.
00:21:50.000 They're reporting that in February alone, U.S.
00:21:54.000 authorities detained more than 70,000 migrants, up from 58,000 in January.
00:21:59.000 Weird.
00:21:59.000 Weird that they didn't report any of this stuff until, you know, after the government shutdown ends and Trump declares a national emergency.
00:22:05.000 How weird.
00:22:07.000 Once again showing that the media's coverage of these issues tends to have a rather large impact on our public discourse.
00:22:13.000 Okay, coming up in just a second, I want to talk about the Democrats and intersectionality and their continued push to avoid the consequences of their own willingness to support anti-Semitism.
00:22:22.000 We'll get into that in just one second.
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00:23:31.000 Okay, meanwhile, The Democrats are struggling again with their anti-Semitism, their willingness to okay anti-Semitism so long as it comes from the intersectional faces.
00:23:41.000 The real reason they're okay with this anti-Semitic nonsense, the real reason that they are now backing out on condemning anti-Semitism is because they feel that the people who are pushing the anti-Semitism are the most important members of their party.
00:23:55.000 Nancy Pelosi just went up against Ilhan Omar and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez and Rashida Tlaib and Nancy Pelosi came up on the losing end.
00:24:05.000 That's an amazing thing.
00:24:07.000 Now, the reason for that is that Nancy Pelosi was only Speaker of the House by a couple of votes in the last in the last Speaker vote.
00:24:13.000 All it would take is for a couple of these Democrats to drop out and suddenly she wouldn't be Speaker of the House anymore.
00:24:17.000 So she knows where her bread is buttered.
00:24:19.000 She can't afford to alienate the radical wing of the Democratic Party, which now effectively controls the Democratic Party.
00:24:25.000 Also, the Democratic Party believes that their pathway to victory lies not in pure socialism, but in a socialistic, a democratic socialistic Governmental policy combined with racial appeals, overtly racial appeals.
00:24:38.000 Who better to push that than fresh face of the Democratic Congress, AOC.
00:24:42.000 So Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, for example, she did an interview with Spectrum News in New York and she talked about the Green New Deal.
00:24:48.000 This is the kind of intersectional socialism that Democrats are looking for.
00:24:52.000 One of the things that some folks give pushback is they're saying, why are you talking about racism when it comes to the environment?
00:24:59.000 And they said racism has nothing to do with environmentalism.
00:25:02.000 And my immediate retort is look at Flint, look at Katrina, look at Hurricane Maria.
00:25:09.000 It's not as though income inequality or social injustice or racism are these separated out issues that you just legislate to address those things and fix.
00:25:19.000 You can't pass a law to just end income inequality.
00:25:23.000 You address it in every issue, every major systemic issue.
00:25:27.000 Okay, so the basic appeal here is that socialism may not be all that appealing for minorities, but if you overtly appeal to minorities with socialism, then maybe you'll be okay.
00:25:36.000 The Democratic Party wants to embrace this.
00:25:38.000 They are into embracing this.
00:25:39.000 This is the new coalition.
00:25:40.000 One of the people who is pushing that idea is a center-left Democratic economist named Brad DeLong.
00:25:46.000 He gave an interview to Vox in which DeLong argues, this is according to Greg Sargent at the Washington Post, that it's time for centrists like him to make peace with the left.
00:25:53.000 The idea is that he has to make peace with the open socialists like AOC because they're going to be the winning coalition that allow the neoliberals to sort of drive the boat.
00:26:02.000 That if Nancy Pelosi can make peace with AOC, if Nancy Pelosi can make peace with Ilhan Omar, then they can create a coalition that is durable and allows them to get done what they need to get done.
00:26:14.000 It's easier, in other words, to sort of hold back AOC and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar than it is to make peace with people on the right.
00:26:22.000 And so, you make peace with the people on the left, including the open anti-Semites and the people who cover for them.
00:26:28.000 This is the basic notion that many on the left have been embracing.
00:26:32.000 DeLong notes that on one issue from another, from health care to climate change, centrist-minded Democrats have modulated the party's priorities in hopes of striking a political deal with the center-right.
00:26:41.000 But that deal has never been forthcoming because there's no functional center-right in U.S.
00:26:45.000 politics.
00:26:45.000 In other words, DeLong says, we can't make a deal with moderate Republicans.
00:26:48.000 There are no moderate Republicans.
00:26:49.000 Let's make a deal with our hard left.
00:26:50.000 Now, Republicans and conservatives would see this in the opposite way.
00:26:53.000 They would say, listen, you guys on the left, you moved radically left in the last 10 years.
00:26:58.000 And we can't make a deal with you because you moved radically left in the last 10 years, and then castigated us as racist bigots, sexists, and homophobes.
00:27:06.000 But according to the left, they now have to make, according to sort of the mainstream Democratic Party, easier for Nancy Pelosi to kowtow, to bow down, to bow the knee before AOC, than for Nancy Pelosi to create some sort of centrist coalition.
00:27:19.000 Now, the problem for Democrats is going to come when it turns out that AOC is driving the boat into an iceberg, when it turns out that the American people are not all that fond of AOC's agenda.
00:27:27.000 Nancy Pelosi is sort of hoping to have it both ways.
00:27:30.000 You use AOC to gin up the base, and then when it comes time for a national election, then you appeal to the center of the country.
00:27:35.000 But the base is out of her control, and that is what the last week and a half have proved.
00:27:38.000 The last week and a half have proved that the base is not in Nancy Pelosi's control, and that even the most vile elements of the Democratic base will be bowed to by Nancy Pelosi.
00:27:49.000 It's truly incredible.
00:27:50.000 So, for example, you'll recall that Ilhan Omar is a vicious anti-Semite who's been using anti-Semitic language for years on end.
00:27:56.000 She has anti-Semitic views about Israel.
00:27:58.000 She really doesn't believe that Israel ought to exist.
00:28:00.000 She doesn't, which, by the way, is an anti-Semitic view.
00:28:03.000 If you disagree with policies of Israel, then that is one thing.
00:28:06.000 I disagree with many policies of Israel.
00:28:08.000 I've discussed some of them on the program.
00:28:10.000 But, if you believe that Israel does not have the right to exist as a Jewish state, But every Muslim country has a right to exist as a Muslim state.
00:28:18.000 If you believe that the only Jewish state on planet Earth does not have a right to exist, then you are, in fact, engaging in anti-Semitism.
00:28:25.000 And the State Department even says as much.
00:28:29.000 This is the perspective of Rashida Tlaib.
00:28:30.000 It's the perspective of Ilhan Omar.
00:28:33.000 And it is probably the perspective of AOC, who makes overtures to Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar.
00:28:39.000 And by the way, makes overtures also to people who are apparently open terror supporters, not just Jeremy Corbyn of the Labour Party, who AOC paid homage to just a couple of weeks ago.
00:28:49.000 But also, she just retweeted Yousef Muneir, who's the head of a Palestinian rights organization, Who also happens to be a terror organization sympathizer, is according to the Jerusalem Post.
00:29:00.000 In a tweet first discovered by the Investigative Project on Terrorism, Ocasio-Cortez wrote, quote, She did that in retweeting and responding to a tweet by Yusuf Muneer, the executive director of the U.S.
00:29:08.000 hubbub over an untrue mischaracterization that i was threatening primaries based on pro-ice votes yet there seems to be no problem at all with a zero tolerance stance for simply asking about u.s foreign policy she did that in retweeting and responding to a tweet by yusuf munair the executive director of the u.s center for palestinian rights in his tweet he wrote a pack activist tells new york times the lobby is coming for congresswomen aoc rashida talib and ilhan omar okay And she is retweeting this guy.
00:29:34.000 Well, Munayer has condoned the efforts of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, an actual terror group, on his Twitter feed before, including retweeting a PFLP announcement of a terror attack in Jerusalem on June 16, 2017.
00:29:48.000 In another tweet from July 2014, Munaya reminded his followers that the military wings of PFLP and other terrorist organizations, not just Hamas, are all fighting against Israel in this war.
00:30:00.000 The AOC has no problem tweeting that out.
00:30:01.000 Now, it is hilarious to watch as everybody on the left points out every time Steve King retweets a white nationalist, which he does far too often, and it's gross.
00:30:10.000 You know what happened to Steve King for doing all that stuff?
00:30:12.000 He lost his committee assignments.
00:30:13.000 AOC is retweeting terrorist sympathizers?
00:30:16.000 No problem.
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00:31:48.000 So the Democrats have cut this devil's bargain with the anti-Semites in their base.
00:31:56.000 I mean, it is that simple.
00:31:58.000 And it's the same Democrats who have criticized President Trump, rightly, for kowtowing and winking and nodding at the alt-right in 2016.
00:32:05.000 It was correct that it was gross for Trump to do that in 2016.
00:32:08.000 I criticized it at the time.
00:32:10.000 It was disgusting.
00:32:11.000 I have criticized Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, for making common cause with the Kahanists.
00:32:16.000 He has now brought into his coalition members of the former party of Mayor Kahana.
00:32:23.000 Who are legitimately extremists who have celebrated terrorist incidents like the Baruch Goldstein massacre.
00:32:30.000 Netanyahu brought them into his coalition.
00:32:32.000 That's disgusting.
00:32:33.000 He should never have done that.
00:32:34.000 It's really gross.
00:32:36.000 The Democrats are doing the exact same thing right now.
00:32:38.000 The Democrats are bringing into their coalition and championing and putting them on the cover of Rolling Stone people who are in favor of terrorist groups or at least have spoken out in defense of terrorist groups.
00:32:48.000 Remember, Ilhan Omar actually voted against, she voted against a proposal that would have punished ISIS members more harshly.
00:32:56.000 She has encouraged ISIS members in Minnesota not to be treated with great harshness by the law.
00:33:00.000 She actually wrote an appeal on behalf of, I believe, a former ISIS member to a Minnesota judge.
00:33:04.000 She has laughed and joked about Hamas and Hezbollah.
00:33:07.000 They've hobnobbed with Linda Sarsour, who's an active terrorist supporter.
00:33:10.000 I mean, she's an actual supporter of terrorists before, or at least prior terrorists.
00:33:16.000 Linda Sarsour, speaking out, by the way, against Nancy Pelosi.
00:33:20.000 She's a noted anti-Semite with strong ties to the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan.
00:33:24.000 Sarsour posted comments in a Facebook missive against Nancy Pelosi.
00:33:28.000 She said, So Linda Sarsour and AOC and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar, these are the new leaders of the Democratic Party.
00:33:32.000 work of powerful white men.
00:33:33.000 God forbid the men are upset.
00:33:34.000 No worries.
00:33:35.000 Nancy to the rescue to stroke their egos.
00:33:37.000 So Linda Sarsour and AOC and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar, these are the new leaders of the Democratic Party.
00:33:43.000 And Nancy Pelosi is just hanging on for dear life, hoping that she can control the alligator a little bit.
00:33:48.000 That's all she's hoping.
00:33:49.000 She's riding the back of this alligator, hoping that it eats her last.
00:33:52.000 It will not eat her last, by the way.
00:33:56.000 So what exactly are the Democrats doing about the open anti-Semitism inside their own party?
00:33:59.000 Here's how this works.
00:34:00.000 So in the last couple of days, there were calls for Democrats to censure Rashida Tlaib.
00:34:06.000 Not Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar.
00:34:08.000 For them to put out a congressional resolution naming Ilhan Omar because of her three prior anti-Semitic comments in six weeks.
00:34:16.000 Instead, Democrats said, you know what we'll do?
00:34:17.000 We'll put out a generic resolution.
00:34:19.000 A generic resolution that condemns antisemitism just generally.
00:34:22.000 Which, of course, is a way of avoiding the actual reason why the resolution is being put forth in the first place.
00:34:27.000 It's like putting forth a resolution on the evils of white nationalism without mentioning Steve King right after Steve King's comments.
00:34:33.000 Like, we all know why we're doing this, don't we?
00:34:36.000 But that was too much.
00:34:37.000 That was too much.
00:34:37.000 The base of the Democratic Party, they decided we can't do that even.
00:34:41.000 The CBC protested.
00:34:42.000 Ilhan Omar protested.
00:34:44.000 AOC protested.
00:34:45.000 So then the Democrats decided, you know what, we're gonna have to table this thing.
00:34:48.000 Ilhan Omar's name won't go in it.
00:34:50.000 But now, now we are going to change the language of the bill to include language condemning anti-Muslim bias.
00:34:58.000 Now listen, you want to pass another resolution condemning anti-Muslim bias based on, you know, like an inciting incident?
00:35:03.000 Go for it.
00:35:04.000 But this entire incident was based on Ilhan Omar being an anti-Semite.
00:35:09.000 So Ilhan Omar's an anti-Semite.
00:35:11.000 And then presumably some people react to Ilhan Omar with Islamophobia, not members of Congress, because you can't name any who have done that.
00:35:17.000 But some randos in West Virginia?
00:35:19.000 And so we get a congressional resolution condemning both anti-Semitism and Islamophobia?
00:35:24.000 Without mentioning Ilhan Omar, the inciting reason for this entire incident?
00:35:28.000 It's absurdity on its face.
00:35:30.000 And it is a way of watering this down so it doesn't look like a condemnation of Ilhan Omar, it looks like a defense of Ilhan Omar.
00:35:36.000 The Democratic Party is doing this because they know where their bread is buttered.
00:35:39.000 Ilhan Omar butters their bread.
00:35:41.000 AOC butters their bread.
00:35:43.000 Rashida Tlaib butters their bread.
00:35:44.000 This is the decision that they have made.
00:35:47.000 And you can tell this from leading members of the Democratic Coalition.
00:35:50.000 So, Eliot Engel is a Jewish congressperson from New York.
00:35:53.000 He had condemned Ilhan Omar's comments as anti-Semitic, because they are in fact anti-Semitic.
00:35:57.000 Then he was asked, should Ilhan Omar be stripped of her Foreign Affairs Committee assignment?
00:36:01.000 First of all, there's no reason she should be on Foreign Affairs anyway.
00:36:03.000 It's a very prestigious committee assignment.
00:36:05.000 She knows nothing about foreign policy.
00:36:07.000 Her foreign policy positions are absurd on their face.
00:36:09.000 She's in favor of Nicolas Maduro basically remaining as the dictator of Venezuela.
00:36:15.000 She's a dangerous ignoramus.
00:36:18.000 And Eliot Engel won't even say that she should be ousted from Foreign Affairs.
00:36:21.000 You're the chairman of a really important committee, right?
00:36:24.000 Foreign Affairs.
00:36:26.000 This is the center of a lot.
00:36:28.000 And it's certainly the center of this discussion about Israel.
00:36:31.000 At what point do you say to her, Congresswoman Omar, look, you're not on this committee anymore.
00:36:38.000 You strip her of your seat.
00:36:39.000 Are you close to that or at that point?
00:36:42.000 No, I'm not close to it.
00:36:44.000 First of all, it's not up to me.
00:36:45.000 This is done by the leadership.
00:36:48.000 I don't know that that would do anything except exacerbate the situation even more.
00:36:54.000 I'm looking to get rid of anti-Semitism, not looking to punish anybody.
00:36:59.000 You're going to have to explain, Representative Engel, how you get rid of anti-Semitism without punishing anti-Semites.
00:37:04.000 You're gonna have to explain how that works.
00:37:06.000 This really pathetic patting Ilhan Omar on the head.
00:37:10.000 Ilhan Omar is how old?
00:37:12.000 40 years old, I believe?
00:37:14.000 Ilhan Omar?
00:37:14.000 When was she born?
00:37:15.000 Let's see.
00:37:15.000 Ilhan Omar age.
00:37:17.000 She is 37 years old.
00:37:19.000 She is two years older than I am.
00:37:21.000 She is twice married.
00:37:22.000 She was a fellow at the University of Minnesota.
00:37:25.000 She is not an ignoramus.
00:37:26.000 She is not stupid.
00:37:28.000 She is not a fool.
00:37:29.000 And yet the Democrats, because they don't want to acknowledge that they are okaying antisemitism in their own ranks, have decided basically, you know what, it turns out that she's just a, she's a poor, ignorant woman who doesn't know anything.
00:37:39.000 If anybody ever said that about Ilhan Omar on the other side, that she is, she's just ignorant of basic things about, about life and about antisemitism and about religious bigotry, you know, because she's an ignoramus.
00:37:52.000 Then they'd immediately be accused of not taking her seriously enough.
00:37:57.000 I think she's ignorant because I think that she's ignorant about Venezuela.
00:37:59.000 Like, I don't think she knows things about Venezuela, but she's certainly not ignorant about anti-Semitism.
00:38:03.000 For years, members of the Minnesota Jewish community have been approaching Ilhan Omar, reported by the Minneapolis Star Tribune, and talking to her about anti-Semitism, and she has not cared one iota.
00:38:13.000 This is what she believes.
00:38:15.000 The Democratic Party has made its peace with the radicals in their base.
00:38:18.000 They are quickly becoming the UK Labour Party.
00:38:20.000 In a second, we're going to talk about how the media continues to cover for this, because it's quite insane.
00:38:26.000 So, Dana Milbank is a columnist over at the Washington Post.
00:38:29.000 Now, the Washington Post has been awful about all of this.
00:38:32.000 The Washington Post has run a bevy of pieces in full-throated defence of Ilhan Omar.
00:38:37.000 Why?
00:38:37.000 Because the Washington Post are the Democratic leadership.
00:38:40.000 They are the same.
00:38:41.000 And so they have to pretend that Ilhan Omar isn't an anti-Semite.
00:38:44.000 In fact, she's speaking the truth.
00:38:45.000 Dana Milbank was asked specifically about the Democratic treatment of Ilhan Omar.
00:38:50.000 He said, listen, it's pretty obvious that Democrats hold themselves to a higher standard with regard to Ilhan Omar.
00:38:56.000 Uh-huh, sure.
00:38:56.000 Do you think the Democrats are holding her to a higher standard than Republicans have been holding themselves?
00:39:03.000 I think that's probably also true on Me Too and other things.
00:39:06.000 The question is, should Democrats do the same thing Republicans have been doing, sort of circle the wagons and basically look the other way because they're a member of the tribe?
00:39:16.000 And I think that it's probably worthwhile to hold yourself to a higher standard.
00:39:20.000 Okay, there is no higher standard.
00:39:22.000 Again, they took an original resolution that would have included a condemnation of Ilhan Omar, they stripped out her name, and then they added anti-Islam sentiment to an actual resolution about anti-Semitism.
00:39:33.000 Which is astonishing.
00:39:34.000 It's astonishing.
00:39:35.000 And yet, we're being told by the media they hold themselves to a higher standard.
00:39:38.000 Yeah, sure.
00:39:39.000 Right.
00:39:39.000 Uh-huh.
00:39:40.000 I don't remember Steve King being featured on the cover of Rolling Stone with Speaker Paul Ryan, by the way.
00:39:44.000 Like, I don't remember that happening.
00:39:47.000 Pretty amazing stuff.
00:39:48.000 Okay, meanwhile, One of the great irritants for Republicans at this point has to be the fact that while Democrats are running as far as they can to the left, Republicans seem to be following them to the left.
00:40:02.000 Apparently, Republicans are now advancing paid leave.
00:40:04.000 Now, I understand that there are some lawmakers on the right who are big fans of paid parental leave, and that includes senators with whom I am very friendly.
00:40:15.000 The bills would supposedly provide a government-backed paid parental leave Spurred in part by activism from Ivanka Trump, according to Roll Call, a growing number of Republicans have embraced arguments that it would improve maternal and fetal health, provide income stability for families, and strengthen caregivers' connection to the workforce.
00:40:34.000 Paid family leave would allow the GOP to showcase its claim to uphold family values while still appealing to working-class voters whose sense of economic instability helped propel Trump to victory in 2016.
00:40:44.000 Now forcing businesses to either pay for paid family leave or forcing taxpayers to take on the burden of paid family leave is obviously a new government entitlement.
00:40:52.000 Republicans are pushing this at the same time that the debt is being blown out.
00:40:56.000 I'm old enough to remember when Republicans pretended to care about the debt.
00:40:59.000 I'm old enough to remember when conservatives pretended to care about the deficit.
00:41:02.000 But the U.S.
00:41:03.000 budget deficit, according to Bloomberg, has now widened to $310 billion in the first four months of the fiscal year, underscoring, according to Bloomberg, the revenue hit from Republican tax cuts and an increase in government spending.
00:41:15.000 It ain't about the tax cuts, gang.
00:41:16.000 It's about the spending.
00:41:17.000 The budget gap widened 77%.
00:41:18.000 Why?
00:41:18.000 Well, receipts fell by 2% to $1.1 trillion.
00:41:23.000 That seems like a solid amount of money to take in, does it not?
00:41:26.000 But spending rose 9% to $1.4 trillion.
00:41:30.000 So the budget did receive a tiny bump in customs duties, about $25 billion, but the U.S.
00:41:37.000 trade gap widened.
00:41:39.000 Which, by the way, shows that President Trump's trade policy is economically ignorant.
00:41:42.000 The economy has continued to boom because the trade deficit is not a good indicator of whether an economy is booming or not.
00:41:48.000 The trade deficit usually means that people in America can afford foreign products, so we are buying them.
00:41:52.000 Also, President Trump actually exacerbated the trade deficit, made it worse.
00:41:56.000 Why?
00:41:57.000 Because by pushing the idea that tariffs were going to clamp in at the beginning of 2019, he forced a bunch of businesses to buy products early from foreign countries.
00:42:08.000 So it actually accelerated the trade deficit.
00:42:11.000 With all of that said, it would be really nice if Republicans would not be Democrats.
00:42:14.000 We already have Democrats.
00:42:15.000 We don't need another Democratic party.
00:42:17.000 Okay.
00:42:18.000 Meanwhile, I feel like I really need to comment on a great exchange that happened yesterday on Joe Rogan's podcast.
00:42:23.000 For those who don't know Joe Rogan's podcast, you should give it a listen.
00:42:26.000 It's really a lot of fun.
00:42:27.000 Joe's a great questioner.
00:42:28.000 So Joe and Tim Pool, who is one of his sidekicks, Joe and Tim Pool were questioning some members of the Twitter clan.
00:42:35.000 So Jack Dorsey showed up.
00:42:41.000 We have a divide between the conservative estimation of what's happening and then the definition that's the liberal definition of it.
00:42:53.000 I think that's right, Joe.
00:42:54.000 And I think what I'm trying to say is that it's not that you can't have those viewpoints.
00:42:59.000 It's that if you're taking those viewpoints and you're targeting them at a specific person in a way that reflects your intent to abuse and harass What if it's in the context of the conversation?
00:43:08.000 What if she's saying that, I don't think that trans women should be allowed in these female spaces to make decisions for women?
00:43:14.000 And then this person's arguing and she says, a woman is biologically female.
00:43:19.000 You are never going to be a woman.
00:43:20.000 She responded with, men aren't women though.
00:43:23.000 And that was her first, in the series of events, that's what got her the suspension and the warning.
00:43:27.000 That was one of many tweets that was part of providing context.
00:43:31.000 It was not.
00:43:32.000 Okay, the woman who's speaking is Vijaya Gaddy, who is the company's global lead for legal policy and trust and safety.
00:43:39.000 And that's Joe Rogan asking specifically about Megan Murphy, who's been a guest on our show.
00:43:43.000 Megan Murphy, of course, is a feminist.
00:43:45.000 She's a left-wing feminist who was banned from Twitter for making the absolutely obvious contention that men are not women and women are not men.
00:43:52.000 Twitter claimed that this was targeting of particularly transgender people.
00:43:55.000 And Joe Rogan and Tim Pool are pointing out how dumb this is.
00:43:59.000 That Twitter has no consistent standard.
00:44:01.000 But again, Twitter doesn't have to have a consistent standard.
00:44:03.000 They have market dominance.
00:44:05.000 It's pretty astonishing how the left will continue to shut down debate with no good excuse for doing so, simply because their confirmation bias is so incredibly strong.
00:44:14.000 When you have an agenda, it really does allow you to run roughshod over your own supposed central principles.
00:44:20.000 You can tell where people's real principles lie by which principles people are willing to violate in pursuit of those primary principles.
00:44:27.000 So, Twitter says it's a free speech platform, a place for people to speak out and debate.
00:44:31.000 But their real priority is not that.
00:44:33.000 Their real priority is social leftism, and when the two come into conflict, social leftism overrules anything having to do with free speech.
00:44:40.000 Good on Joe Rogan and Tim Pool for exposing the insane hypocrisy and stupidity of the Twitter The Twitter leadership.
00:44:49.000 Alrighty.
00:44:50.000 Time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.
00:44:52.000 So, things that I like.
00:44:54.000 There is a movie that is now available on Amazon Prime.
00:44:56.000 It's called You Were Never Really Here.
00:44:58.000 It's sort of a newfangled take on Taxi Driver.
00:45:00.000 Frankly, I think it's a better movie than Taxi Driver.
00:45:03.000 It's with Joaquin Phoenix, who is in fact our finest living actor.
00:45:06.000 The only other competitor would probably be Daniel Day-Lewis, but he is retired.
00:45:11.000 Joaquin Phoenix turns in another fantastic performance.
00:45:14.000 When you talk about people who just inhabit a role, where you don't even think of them as an actor, they're just the role, Joaquin Phoenix is the guy.
00:45:20.000 The basic plot is essentially a taxi driver.
00:45:22.000 He is a, he is a kind of taxi driver.
00:45:25.000 He is basically a veteran who has had some bad experiences, a suicidal veteran, and he is hired by a middleman to go save this state legislator's daughter from sex slavery.
00:45:38.000 I'm gonna ask you some questions.
00:45:45.000 How many are there?
00:45:46.000 One guy inside the front door.
00:45:47.000 Second guy on the top floor.
00:45:49.000 After the tone, please leave a message.
00:45:56.000 It's done.
00:45:58.000 A man called.
00:46:00.000 He wants to see you.
00:46:01.000 Right away.
00:46:06.000 State Senator Albert Votto.
00:46:08.000 His teenage daughter's missing.
00:46:10.000 What's the lead?
00:46:11.000 He got an anonymous text with an address.
00:46:15.000 I've heard of these places.
00:46:18.000 - We said you were brutal. - I can be. - I want you to hurt them.
00:46:23.000 - Okay, so he, So, he did win the best actor, did Joaquin Phoenix, for his role in this.
00:46:30.000 He's a terrific actor.
00:46:32.000 Honestly, it gives me hope for the Joker movie.
00:46:34.000 So the new Joker movie is going to be directed by Scorsese, correct?
00:46:37.000 And Joaquin Phoenix plays the Joker.
00:46:39.000 That is fantastic casting.
00:46:40.000 So, looking forward to that.
00:46:42.000 The movie is very brutal.
00:46:43.000 It is definitely rated R. You were never really here, available on Amazon Prime.
00:46:47.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.
00:46:53.000 So let's talk a little bit about H.R.
00:46:55.000 1.
00:46:55.000 H.R.
00:46:56.000 1 is the Nancy Pelosi-led House's first priority, and basically it restructures voting and voter ID all across the country in violation of federalism.
00:47:05.000 States are generally supposed to set the standards, and state redistricting is supposed to set the standards for how voting is done on the state level.
00:47:12.000 HR1, according to the Heritage Foundation, seizes the authority of states to regulate voter registration and the voting process by forcing states to implement early voting, automatic voter registration, same-day registration, online voter registration, and no-fault absentee balloting, all of which are the devil's playground for voter fraud.
00:47:30.000 Early voting, first of all, should not be allowed except in Really bad circumstances.
00:47:36.000 Or unless you're a member of the military or something.
00:47:38.000 Early voting is bad because a lot of news breaks right before an election.
00:47:42.000 Second, automatic voter registration.
00:47:44.000 You should not be automatically registered to vote because maybe you don't want to vote.
00:47:48.000 Same-day registration is absurd.
00:47:50.000 It doesn't allow you to actually check whether the person is who they say they are.
00:47:53.000 Online voter registration is very difficult to control.
00:47:55.000 No fault absentee balancing.
00:47:56.000 Again, that's a problem because people vote absentee instead of simply going down to their polling place.
00:48:01.000 Makes it more difficult to verify their vote.
00:48:04.000 This creates a lot more chaos at the polls, which is exactly the opposite of what we need.
00:48:09.000 It will hurt voter turnout because everybody will early vote.
00:48:12.000 It will degrade the accuracy of registration lists by automatically registering individuals from state databases, such as DMV and welfare offices.
00:48:19.000 In California, you can have a driver's license if you're an illegal immigrant.
00:48:22.000 So if you automatically are registered from the state database, well, that's going to be a problem, isn't it?
00:48:27.000 It constitutes a recipe, according to Heritage, correctly, for massive voter registration fraud by hackers and cyber criminals.
00:48:34.000 Through online voter registration.
00:48:36.000 It's hilarious to watch as the left tries to loosen the methods of confirming who voters are.
00:48:44.000 At the same time that they are trying to make sure that only people who see Captain Marvel can review Captain Marvel.
00:48:50.000 And there's a point made by one of our producers here, by head of production Jonathan Hay to me the other day.
00:48:55.000 He was pointing out that now Rotten Tomatoes has changed their standards on who gets to review Captain Marvel.
00:49:00.000 You can only do it if you have bought a ticket to Captain Marvel.
00:49:03.000 They've changed the standard.
00:49:04.000 Why?
00:49:04.000 Because they were afraid that fanboys were going to crap all over Captain Marvel and lower the viewer rating, the generalized viewer rating.
00:49:12.000 And so they've decided they're essentially going to use a form of voter ID.
00:49:17.000 So yes to voter ID for seeing a movie and reviewing it on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:49:20.000 No to voter ID for, you know, actually voting.
00:49:23.000 This will cripple the effectiveness of state voter ID laws by allowing individuals to vote without an ID and sign a statement in which they claim they are who they say they are, but you can just forge the signature, obviously.
00:49:33.000 It will reduce the number of federal election commission members from six to five, allowing the political party with three commission seats to control the commission.
00:49:40.000 Which of course means that if Democrats take control of the FEC, then they will control the entire FEC.
00:49:45.000 It would require states to restore the ability of felons to vote the moment they are out of prison, which is a state issue, not a federal issue.
00:49:55.000 It would violate the separation of powers.
00:49:56.000 Even the ACLU opposes H.R.
00:49:58.000 1 because they say that it goes too far in a lot of these directions.
00:50:02.000 So it's a pretty extreme bill.
00:50:04.000 Don't believe all the hype when Democrats say they're restoring voter integrity.
00:50:06.000 It is precisely the opposite.
00:50:08.000 Alrighty.
00:50:08.000 Well, we will be back here a little bit later today with two additional hours, which is why you subscribe.
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