The Ben Shapiro Show - July 10, 2026


EXPLOSIVE: What Did CANDACE OWENS Know?!


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Candace Owens was on top of the world with her coverage of the Charlie Kirk case when she was mysteriously murdered. Who was the real killer? And why did she kill Charlie Kirk? Ben Shapiro uncovers the truth behind it all.

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00:00:00.000 Folks, today is a highly important show.
00:00:03.000 Today, we are going to uncover the real murderer of Charlie Kirk.
00:00:07.000 It's time.
00:00:08.000 We've been working for months on a deep and detailed investigation.
00:00:12.000 It's not who you think.
00:00:13.000 Today, we are going to discuss who was really behind Charlie Kirk's assassination Candace Owens.
00:00:19.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:29.000 So, we didn't want to talk about this.
00:00:31.000 We didn't.
00:00:32.000 But we've been digging.
00:00:33.000 We have been investigating.
00:00:34.000 We've been tugging on every thread, been tracing every single line of investigation to get to the bottom of what really happened.
00:00:41.000 What really, really, really happened.
00:00:43.000 What super really happened with Charlie Kirk's assassination on September 10th, 2025.
00:00:48.000 The story actually begins before that.
00:00:50.000 In the spring of 2025, when Candace Owens, the podcaster, her brand, was having some trouble, she was sued by the first lady of France. 0.90
00:00:57.000 She was hemorrhaging mainstream sponsors. 0.87
00:00:59.000 She was losing her stamp. 0.88
00:01:00.000 She was feuding with pretty much everybody.
00:01:02.000 And then something, something changed.
00:01:05.000 Charlie Kirk was murdered.
00:01:06.000 You remember September 10th, 2025?
00:01:09.000 Her Charlie Kirk coverage rebuilt her audience and drove record merch sales.
00:01:13.000 That's what she said.
00:01:14.000 Nami is what she said and turned her into the main character in the biggest story in America.
00:01:20.000 I mean, here she was in May of this year.
00:01:24.000 We are on track for this to be the biggest day in our merch sale history on the website.
00:01:29.000 I mean, I love you guys for actually buying merch just to spite the people that were calling for a merch boycott.
00:01:37.000 And you got to follow how the money is structured.
00:01:39.000 You got to follow it.
00:01:39.000 You got to follow all, just follow it.
00:01:41.000 The revenue from this coverage doesn't flow to a human.
00:01:41.000 Okay.
00:01:44.000 It flows through a lattice of corporate entities like Candace Owens LLC and George Tom Incorporated.
00:01:50.000 The kind of architecture you build when you want distance between yourself and the product.
00:01:54.000 And the product by Candace Owens' own on air admission had its single biggest sales day in company history because of the Charlie Kirk assassination.
00:02:03.000 Charlie Kirk dies and Candace gets richer, a lot richer.
00:02:06.000 But at whose direction?
00:02:08.000 That is the big question. 1.00
00:02:10.000 I mean, Candace has a lot of foreign connections, like a lot.
00:02:12.000 See, here's the thing Charlie Kirk, at the end of his life, was going after radical Islam.
00:02:18.000 That was his biggest cause just before he was murdered. 0.94
00:02:21.000 You'll remember Charlie saying this Islam is not compatible with Western civilization. 1.00
00:02:28.000 Islam is at odds with all the freedoms that we enjoy. 1.00
00:02:32.000 They do not believe in any separation between mosque and state, they do not believe in freedom of speech or freedom of expression. 1.00
00:02:38.000 They do not believe in the freedom to criticize the government.
00:02:41.000 The practices that we enjoy so great here in the United States of America.
00:02:45.000 And here's the one thing that's the kicker. 0.86
00:02:47.000 You have this axis, again, the red green axis, this Marxism, Mohammedan axis. 0.56
00:02:53.000 What do they have in common? 0.82
00:02:55.000 Even though a lot of the Marxists are lesbians or gays or transgenders, they get along with the Muslims. 0.98
00:03:02.000 They get along because they hate us. 0.98
00:03:07.000 This is Charlie Kirk's cause, right? 0.99
00:03:09.000 But, Candace, Had lots of new relationships, lots of new relationships with people in the Islamic world. 0.99
00:03:14.000 Maybe directing traffic to her. 0.86
00:03:15.000 We don't know.
00:03:16.000 We're just asking questions.
00:03:17.000 We're just asking questions.
00:03:19.000 But we're not stupid. 0.72
00:03:20.000 We're not stupid. 0.97
00:03:22.000 Something changed. 0.98
00:03:23.000 She suddenly started talking about the magic of Islam. 0.99
00:03:27.000 Here she was in March. 1.00
00:03:29.000 These terror groups, these Muslim terrorists, for whatever reason, these Muslim terrorists only want to terrorize to benefit Israel. 0.99
00:03:36.000 It's so strange. 1.00
00:03:36.000 I cannot work it out. 1.00
00:03:38.000 If you're a Muslim terrorist, we want to hear from you. 1.00
00:03:40.000 Why are you doing that? 1.00
00:03:41.000 Right?
00:03:41.000 Why are you.
00:03:43.000 Stealing and robbing and doing things down in Congo to the benefit of Israel. 0.97
00:03:48.000 We want to hear from you. 0.98
00:03:49.000 That's very strange.
00:03:49.000 More tips.
00:03:50.000 Cancel on his con. 0.98
00:03:50.000 Hey, hello, I'm a Muslim terrorist and I work for Israel. 0.98
00:03:52.000 Why do you do that? 0.98
00:03:55.000 Weird, isn't it?
00:03:56.000 Right?
00:03:57.000 I mean, like, right?
00:03:57.000 I mean, like, right?
00:03:58.000 I mean, Charlie starts warning about radical Islam and suddenly Candace discovers that maybe we've just been misunderstanding Islam this whole time.
00:04:07.000 She literally apologized to Muslims on behalf of America because she says Americans were brainwashed after 9 11 by propaganda and she didn't even know what a Muslim was.
00:04:16.000 That's what she said.
00:04:17.000 That's what she said. 0.91
00:04:19.000 We're not stupid. 0.79
00:04:20.000 We're not. 1.00
00:04:21.000 She invited Muslim terrorists to reach out to her because, see, the jihadis are the victims. 0.99
00:04:25.000 And if a Muslim terrorist says he's doing it for Allah, well, that's because somebody else wrote the script. 0.99
00:04:30.000 No, probably the Zionists. 0.99
00:04:31.000 The Zionists. 0.88
00:04:32.000 Hamas says Hamas did it, doesn't count.
00:04:34.000 And ISIS claims responsibility, suspicious.
00:04:37.000 And Iran chants death to America, that's what they want you to think.
00:04:39.000 That's what Candace says.
00:04:41.000 And it's not just about Islam and her newfound magical relationship with Islam.
00:04:44.000 See, Candace developed a really close relationship with Russia, like super duper close.
00:04:48.000 Like go to St. Petersburg and hang out with members of the Putin apparatus.
00:04:52.000 Close.
00:04:52.000 Here she was, having a good old time in Russia.
00:04:54.000 She also, by the way, speaking of foreign relationships, developed some weird relationships.
00:04:59.000 With alleged sex traffickers in Romania.
00:05:02.000 I mean, right there, you can see it.
00:05:05.000 With the alleged sex trafficker in Romania.
00:05:08.000 You know who hated sex trafficking? 0.87
00:05:10.000 Charlie Kirk. 0.97
00:05:12.000 Hated sex trafficking.
00:05:13.000 Coincidence?
00:05:14.000 Is any of this a coincidence? 0.99
00:05:16.000 We're not stupid. 0.78
00:05:17.000 So this is weird, really weird. 0.99
00:05:19.000 She's in Romania hanging with sex traffickers. 0.95
00:05:22.000 Charlie's condemning sex traffickers. 0.99
00:05:24.000 And then Charlie dies. 0.94
00:05:26.000 The single most important person fighting radical Islam just gets killed. 1.00
00:05:29.000 Convenient, like very, very convenient. 0.88
00:05:32.000 A person who knew Candace really well, who texted with her regularly, who would have known what she was up to, maybe suspected what was happening.
00:05:40.000 And then he just so happens to be murdered.
00:05:43.000 And she starts making money.
00:05:44.000 It's just, that's all I'm saying.
00:05:45.000 Some interesting motivation.
00:05:47.000 You know, that's all we're saying.
00:05:48.000 Interesting, interesting.
00:05:50.000 But what about like means?
00:05:51.000 I mean, murder requires motive and means and opportunity, right?
00:05:54.000 So what about means?
00:05:55.000 Here's the thing Candace knew everything.
00:05:58.000 She was Charlie's best friend, like his best friend.
00:06:01.000 They were so close, like closer than any humans who have ever lived.
00:06:04.000 She was his best friend.
00:06:05.000 Here she was.
00:06:06.000 The day after Charlie was killed.
00:06:10.000 But I don't want today to be about anything other than you guys knowing that Charlie really was an amazing person.
00:06:16.000 You know, he was like, we were really close.
00:06:20.000 And he was, he was my best friend and my brother.
00:06:25.000 I mean, how close was their relationship?
00:06:26.000 I mean, it may have been for her even more than like a brotherly relationship.
00:06:30.000 I mean, let's be real.
00:06:31.000 You don't talk about suspicious.
00:06:32.000 She got married in what is easily the weirdest love story of like all time.
00:06:37.000 I mean, she met her husband, George, and she barely knew him.
00:06:40.000 And then they just got married.
00:06:41.000 That's an op.
00:06:42.000 Okay. 0.96
00:06:42.000 We're not stupid. 0.96
00:06:43.000 We're not stupid. 0.86
00:06:44.000 Okay. 0.76
00:06:45.000 We're not stupid. 0.81
00:06:46.000 That's an op. 0.97
00:06:47.000 That's an op. 1.00
00:06:48.000 Candace supposedly attends a crowded dinner party consisting of like 30 people. 0.98
00:06:52.000 You want to guess who else was seated at that exact same table?
00:06:56.000 Charlie Kirk.
00:06:56.000 Is that a coincidence?
00:06:58.000 He was there when she met her husband.
00:07:01.000 It was at that exact event that she met George Farmer, who was the wealthy son of prominent British Tory peer, Lord Michael Farmer.
00:07:09.000 Here was Candace describing this with her husband, George.
00:07:14.000 I sat next to you and you basically said nothing to me.
00:07:18.000 Correct.
00:07:19.000 I did what I've done for the past six years.
00:07:22.000 I just said nothing.
00:07:23.000 And it worked.
00:07:24.000 And it worked.
00:07:25.000 It absolutely worked.
00:07:25.000 And then you married me.
00:07:26.000 So I have no idea why.
00:07:27.000 Yeah.
00:07:28.000 18 days later, we got engaged.
00:07:31.000 And I called her and I just said, listen, I know this is completely crazy and we've just met, but how do you feel about getting married to me?
00:07:38.000 Just real quick.
00:07:39.000 I missed the bit where there was any sort of.
00:07:43.000 There was literally nothing romantic had been said up to this point.
00:07:46.000 Okay.
00:07:47.000 I mean, literally nothing romantic.
00:07:47.000 So I missed nothing.
00:07:49.000 We hadn't gone on a date.
00:07:50.000 We had not talked about marriage or the future or anything like that.
00:07:56.000 And I just, and she said yes.
00:07:56.000 All right.
00:08:00.000 Weird because, you know, there it is.
00:08:02.000 I mean, does that sound natural to you?
00:08:04.000 That sounds like people who just met, started dating, fell in love.
00:08:08.000 I mean, you're telling me that the night they laid eyes on each other and the day he proposed, between those two times, zero romantic overtures, none?
00:08:16.000 No dating, no courting, 17 days later, formally engaged.
00:08:21.000 You're telling me that I'm supposed to believe 17 days from total strangers to securing a multi million dollar marriage alliance into the British House of Lords?
00:08:30.000 Into the British House of Lords?
00:08:33.000 I mean, come on.
00:08:34.000 That doesn't just look suspicious.
00:08:35.000 That looks like a strategic corporate acquisition, like big, big corporate acquisition, like big capitalism at work.
00:08:44.000 What about Charlie?
00:08:46.000 Well, she was acting as his wing woman, you know, like manipulating him and his life. 0.99
00:08:51.000 I mean, she openly boasted on air about acting as Charlie's personal psychological gatekeeper and his wing woman.
00:08:58.000 Here she was.
00:09:01.000 I'm going to miss Charlie going on dates and the girl they liked and me always being the wing woman and him asking.
00:09:08.000 This text message is one of my favorite text messages between me and Charlie when he was getting ready to go on a date.
00:09:13.000 And, you know, he didn't date many people and he was just kind of in love with this girl.
00:09:22.000 And he was asking me, should I wear this?
00:09:24.000 And this is the text message.
00:09:25.000 It's so sweet.
00:09:27.000 He said, do I have to change this shirt?
00:09:29.000 And I wrote back, yes, and throw it away if you can, Charlie.
00:09:36.000 I mean, think about what she's doing there, publicly transmitting to the grieving widow, Erica, that she was the one who controlled Charlie's appearance.
00:09:43.000 She was the one dictating his choices long before Erica ever entered the frame.
00:09:47.000 We're talking classic behavioral markers here, folks.
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00:11:03.000 There's something else.
00:11:04.000 Candace, of course, says that Erica was somehow involved in the murder or the cover up of the murder.
00:11:09.000 But Candace also claims she literally set up Erica with Charlie.
00:11:12.000 Here she was saying that the day after Charlie was killed.
00:11:17.000 And of course, Charlie fell in love with Erica.
00:11:20.000 That entire journey to me when I was reading Kua Text is so funny because it was exceptional.
00:11:26.000 I was always leaning into Charlie's analytical mind and making fun of him like, oh, all we need to do is get a plan.
00:11:31.000 You love Erica?
00:11:32.000 Okay, what's the plan?
00:11:32.000 What are we going to do?
00:11:33.000 What's step two?
00:11:33.000 What's step one?
00:11:34.000 And the plan that I came up with instantly was all we have to do is convince her that her last name is terrible.
00:11:39.000 Her last name, she's got to marry you because it's practical.
00:11:42.000 Kirk is going to, Mrs. Erica Kirk sounds so much better than Mrs. Erica, Miss Erica Francie.
00:11:48.000 What is that last name?
00:11:50.000 I mean, this is suspicious, right?
00:11:52.000 I mean, so suspicious.
00:11:53.000 I mean, look at those mannerisms, by the way.
00:11:54.000 Like, so suspicious.
00:11:55.000 So suspicious. 1.00
00:11:56.000 What are we, dumb? 1.00
00:11:57.000 Were we stupid? 1.00
00:11:59.000 Use some common sense. 1.00
00:12:00.000 Candace says that Erica is now some sort of agent of evil, but Candace helped Erica marry him.
00:12:05.000 So if she was so evil, Why would you do something like that?
00:12:08.000 It doesn't sound suspicious, like at all, like setting somebody up or anything like that.
00:12:11.000 See, here's the thing Candace knew Charlie's world from the inside.
00:12:14.000 She knew the personnel, the protocols, the security company.
00:12:17.000 She has said on the record that her security team worked with the very men she now accuses.
00:12:22.000 And she can't think of anyone in private security she doesn't get along with.
00:12:24.000 You want to think about that.
00:12:25.000 Just think about it.
00:12:26.000 Just use your brain.
00:12:27.000 She knew exactly which seams of the story to pull out because she knew all the people involved.
00:12:32.000 I mean, here she was admitting it, just admitting it right out, like it's no big deal.
00:12:37.000 I confirmed this with security inside of Turning Point.
00:12:42.000 There somehow happened to be a leak.
00:12:45.000 And so they can't dispute this.
00:12:49.000 I mean, she's involved with all of this information and with all the people involved, and she knows all of them.
00:12:54.000 And where was Candace when all this was going down?
00:12:56.000 We have no idea.
00:12:57.000 None.
00:12:57.000 Where was Candace in the days before September 10th?
00:13:00.000 She admits on air to memory gaps.
00:13:03.000 She says she genuinely forgot an entire trip to Maine, just blacked out.
00:13:07.000 Do we believe that?
00:13:08.000 That she just forgets things like that?
00:13:10.000 I mean, here she was explaining just a couple of weeks ago that she just blacked out.
00:13:15.000 She's blacked out.
00:13:16.000 What else has she blacked out?
00:13:17.000 What else has she forgotten?
00:13:20.000 I had a baby, and I think I blacked out after Todd's assassination and didn't remember that I went up to Maine too.
00:13:29.000 I went up to Maine with my husband in July.
00:13:31.000 Okay.
00:13:32.000 My son was born on May 1st.
00:13:33.000 We were off air.
00:13:35.000 And then the first thing I did was I went with my newborn, Roman, and my husband up to Maine to do Tucker's show.
00:13:44.000 And I did an interview, and I genuinely forgot about this.
00:13:48.000 Like, I genuinely forgot about this.
00:13:53.000 So, I mean, just gaps in the memory?
00:13:54.000 Hmm?
00:13:55.000 Weird. 0.99
00:13:55.000 So, where was Candace in this time? 0.99
00:13:58.000 I mean, Candace had two pre recorded episodes about Brigitte McCrone's alleged testicles September 8th and 9th, but nothing on her feed.
00:14:05.000 September 10th, the day in question.
00:14:08.000 So, we just have like a mysterious missing period.
00:14:11.000 Where was she?
00:14:12.000 Was she wearing maroon that day?
00:14:13.000 We don't know.
00:14:14.000 We don't have any pictures of her on those days.
00:14:16.000 None.
00:14:16.000 Now, as we know, because Candace investigated it, there were a lot of decoys, fed decoys, or Israeli decoys, or some decoys wearing maroon.
00:14:25.000 At Utah Valley University, the day Charlie was shot.
00:14:27.000 I mean, here was Kansas explaining.
00:14:31.000 When I looked at the footage of Charlie and what happened on September 10th, it struck me as highly unusual that there were so many men wearing maroon shirts.
00:14:41.000 Like, it's not exactly a color that men wear all the time.
00:14:44.000 And there were a lot of men, all of whom were alone, I might add, who went to just hear Charlie Kirk speak alone and they were wearing maroon shirts.
00:14:53.000 And I just said to myself, this feels like organization to me.
00:14:59.000 I mean, but what was she wearing that day?
00:15:01.000 Do we know?
00:15:02.000 Was she wearing maroon?
00:15:02.000 Do we know?
00:15:04.000 Like, you know, a student from Texas AM?
00:15:06.000 Hell, would she even have been admitted to Texas AM?
00:15:09.000 And also, maroon, Candace, really, really?
00:15:12.000 You expect us to just believe they had nothing to do with maroon?
00:15:15.000 I mean, Kanye West collaborated, Kanye West, who she's really close friends with, super close, collaborated with Maroon 5 on a single called Heard Him Say in 2005.
00:15:27.000 And we know, we know that Candace Owens and Kanye West are super close, like super duper close.
00:15:33.000 I mean, like, really close.
00:15:34.000 I mean, look, there's Charlie in the background of this photo.
00:15:36.000 I mean, it blows your mind.
00:15:38.000 Like, look at this.
00:15:39.000 Kanye West with Adam Levine from Maroon 5.
00:15:39.000 Look at this.
00:15:43.000 Kanye West with Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk just standing there like a third man, forgotten man in the background.
00:15:50.000 There are no coincidences. 1.00
00:15:51.000 How stupid do they think we are? 1.00
00:15:53.000 They think we're stupid? 1.00
00:15:54.000 So you gotta follow the dots. 1.00
00:15:55.000 Kanye West has a song with Adam Levine of Maroon 5.
00:15:58.000 Adam Levine, by the way, is a Frankist.
00:15:59.000 I'll bet you didn't know that. 1.00
00:16:00.000 Adam Levine comes from a long line of Frankists. 0.99
00:16:03.000 And Kanye West just doing songs with him, and Candace being all close with Kanye, and then a bunch of fed decoys show up at UVU wearing maroon like a Frankist Satanist would. 0.98
00:16:13.000 It would take moves like Jagger to avoid the obvious here.
00:16:17.000 It gets even worse.
00:16:17.000 It gets even worse.
00:16:19.000 For example, look at the wardrobe.
00:16:20.000 Look at the visual staging here. 1.00
00:16:22.000 During the height of the summer 2025 broadcast cycle, Candace systematically reconfigured her entire on air presence to feature deep maroon color blocks. 1.00
00:16:31.000 That's the exact aesthetic marker she anchored to her theoretical look alike phantoms.
00:16:36.000 I mean, look at this. 1.00
00:16:37.000 What color is she wearing there? 1.00
00:16:38.000 That's right, that's maroon. 1.00
00:16:40.000 That's maroon.
00:16:41.000 I mean, look at coincidence?
00:16:46.000 Maroon.
00:16:46.000 Coincidence?
00:16:48.000 How about maroon?
00:16:51.000 I mean, maybe a little edging on crimson there, but mostly maroon.
00:16:51.000 Maroon.
00:16:55.000 Criminologists refer to this as rhetorical mesting.
00:16:58.000 That's where the guilty party literally dresses themselves in the fabric of their own conspiracy to normalize that imagery in the minds of the masses.
00:17:05.000 And guys, it gets even worse.
00:17:06.000 I mean, this is nuts. 1.00
00:17:07.000 How stupid do they think we are? 1.00
00:17:09.000 Do they think we're stupid? 1.00
00:17:10.000 How dumb do they think we are? 1.00
00:17:10.000 They think we're stupid. 1.00
00:17:12.000 See, here's the thing. 1.00
00:17:13.000 We know that Candace is technically proficient with microphones.
00:17:16.000 And we suspect that Charlie Kirk wasn't somehow killed by some sort of bullet that magically disappeared.
00:17:22.000 You know, like the coroner's reporter, the autopsy says.
00:17:25.000 So maybe it was the exploding microphone, but you know who might know how microphones could be rigged that way?
00:17:31.000 Maybe, just maybe, a longtime podcast host who runs her own show.
00:17:36.000 Has Candace ever answered a single question about this?
00:17:38.000 Any?
00:17:39.000 These are questions that require answers.
00:17:41.000 And about her travel, like let's look at September 8th, two days before the assassination.
00:17:45.000 Private aircraft depart Nashville that morning.
00:17:47.000 That's the city that she is from.
00:17:50.000 Was she on any of those?
00:17:51.000 We don't have any idea.
00:17:52.000 We don't have any idea.
00:17:53.000 Any one of those flights could have made a brief stop in Tucson that's 50 miles from Fort Huachuca.
00:17:58.000 We would never know.
00:17:59.000 Tucson is a tactical staging ground.
00:18:02.000 It's the exact location where the corporate aircraft sit before they transition into that black box that is Fort Huachuca.
00:18:09.000 Could that have been a discreet pickup window to bring some sort of unidentified passenger along for some sort of meeting?
00:18:14.000 There are 14 private unscheduled departures leaving Candace's immediate residential perimeter.
00:18:19.000 The mathematical probability matrix dictates a staggering 14.2% chance.
00:18:23.000 That her corporate architecture had a body on board.
00:18:27.000 And then, what about a cover up?
00:18:28.000 But this would require a cover up, like a big cover up, right?
00:18:30.000 I mean, like, that's what everyone says when you theorize this.
00:18:33.000 Who would cover it up?
00:18:34.000 Like, who would help cover it up? 1.00
00:18:35.000 Here's the thing we know that Candace is skilled in the art of the cover up.
00:18:40.000 For example, public accusations and document trails have emerged directly naming her husband, George Farmer, in a high stakes hit and run cover up in August of 2023 involving a victim named Tracy Robinson.
00:18:53.000 Wait, Robinson, does that name sound familiar?
00:18:57.000 George Farmer hit somebody in his car, maybe named Robinson.
00:19:02.000 How many Robinsons even are there in the world?
00:19:04.000 How many Robinsons, like Tyler Robinson, have Candace and her husband had contact with?
00:19:09.000 Statistically, something like one in every 600 Americans is named Robinson.
00:19:13.000 But you're telling me, you're telling me, you're trying to tell me that Candace and George are involved in two separate scandals with people named Robinson.
00:19:23.000 That's like the odds of a lightning strike twice while you're standing on top of a volcano.
00:19:29.000 Let's use some common sense here, people.
00:19:30.000 You can't make this stuff up.
00:19:31.000 You can't make it up.
00:19:33.000 The documented profile in that case alleges that George Farmer wrecked his truck while operating at a staggering three times the legal limit, meaning roughly 13 drinks over four hours to hit that number, all while unlawfully brandishing a firearm.
00:19:45.000 But what happens to that alleged DUI?
00:19:46.000 You didn't hear about that, right?
00:19:47.000 What happened to it?
00:19:48.000 Poof.
00:19:49.000 Poof.
00:19:49.000 It went missing.
00:19:52.000 And then she just lied about it for years.
00:19:55.000 And we also know, because she constantly talks about it, that she has tons of high level insider government connections.
00:20:00.000 You want to talk about cover up?
00:20:02.000 Cover up? 1.00
00:20:02.000 She's got the connections. 1.00
00:20:07.000 Here that is, which came in November, my old tweet saying that I had a source inside of the French government because I did.
00:20:14.000 A high government source actually reached out and made me aware.
00:20:19.000 And this is stunning, actually, that we missed this common sense.
00:20:22.000 I should have figured this out all by myself.
00:20:26.000 So she had the sources, she had the cover up capacity.
00:20:28.000 So you're talking motive, money, fame, foreign connections, antipathy to things that Charlie was fighting for.
00:20:36.000 And the means, closeness to Charlie's team and friends in the highest places, and the opportunity.
00:20:40.000 I mean, where was she that week?
00:20:41.000 Who was she talking to?
00:20:43.000 And let's be real.
00:20:44.000 I've never seen anything more suspicious than Candace's behavior after Charlie was killed.
00:20:48.000 Manic and panicked and weird, bizarre, bizarre.
00:20:53.000 Criminologists will tell you it's been proven.
00:20:55.000 Everyone knows this.
00:20:56.000 The guilty party inserts themselves into the investigation.
00:21:00.000 And Candace appointed herself lead investigator on this murder. 0.99
00:21:03.000 Who attacks every single witness who could clarify the record?
00:21:06.000 Who, when asked what evidence would change her mind, has never once answered the question?
00:21:11.000 Now, she keeps telling her audience, setting clinical criteria, that you can see deception on camera.
00:21:16.000 You know, like harsh widening of the eyes or a fixed blank stare, a personality that reconfigures for every room.
00:21:22.000 Man, if you watch her show with the sound off, by the very diagnostic rubric she uses to indict Erica Kirk's grief, man, she fails.
00:21:31.000 I mean, the lady laughs while describing a murder investigation.
00:21:34.000 She sells mugs in the same breath as wound packing details. 1.00
00:21:38.000 What kind of human does that? 1.00
00:21:39.000 What kind of human?
00:21:40.000 I mean, look at this, look at this face.
00:21:43.000 Look at this face.
00:21:45.000 You don't get to ask those questions. 0.97
00:21:48.000 What's wrong with you, mom?
00:21:50.000 Why are you so scared?
00:21:53.000 I mean, look at those eyes.
00:21:55.000 Look at the dead eyes.
00:21:56.000 The doll's eyes.
00:21:58.000 Does this look like a grieving best friend?
00:21:59.000 Does she look like a grief stricken young mother? 1.00
00:22:03.000 I mean, look at the kind of earrings she wears. 1.00
00:22:05.000 Does a grieving friend wear those kinds of earrings? 1.00
00:22:08.000 Those big bangles?
00:22:09.000 Would you wear those kind of earrings if you were grieving your best friend?
00:22:13.000 In a second, we will get to Candace Owens. 0.99
00:22:15.000 Why was she so obsessed with Charlie Kirk? 1.00
00:22:17.000 What was up with that obsession?
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00:22:30.000 This sort of stuff is what gets me through every single day.
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00:23:12.000 It's not enough.
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00:23:21.000 So here's the thing.
00:23:22.000 This is all part of the plan.
00:23:23.000 Candace's plan.
00:23:24.000 Her investigation isn't just an investigation.
00:23:28.000 It's something more.
00:23:29.000 It's an obsession.
00:23:30.000 Like, you know, that movie Obsession that you can find on Amazon right now, like Obsession.
00:23:35.000 She's become so hyper fixated on Charlie. 0.82
00:23:37.000 She's now attempting to absorb his corporate network to completely replace him.
00:23:41.000 She's spent the last nine, 10 months teaching millions of people that nothing, nothing is a coincidence.
00:23:46.000 And you know what?
00:23:47.000 She's right because this isn't a coincidence.
00:23:49.000 None of it.
00:23:49.000 None of it.
00:23:50.000 I'm just asking questions, okay?
00:23:51.000 These are just questions.
00:23:53.000 I'm not saying I know everything.
00:23:55.000 I'm not saying that.
00:23:56.000 I'm just asking, these are questions, okay?
00:23:58.000 Why can't I ask questions?
00:23:59.000 Why shouldn't I ask questions?
00:24:01.000 Am I just supposed to believe what I see?
00:24:03.000 Am I just supposed to look at the evidence?
00:24:06.000 I'm just asking, okay?
00:24:07.000 And questions, we should all be skeptical.
00:24:09.000 What?
00:24:10.000 Are you like somebody who just believes what you hear?
00:24:10.000 What?
00:24:14.000 I mean, like, why won't she release her own travel records?
00:24:16.000 What is she hiding?
00:24:16.000 Listen, guys, you can feel it.
00:24:18.000 You don't need to know what happened to know what happened somehow.
00:24:23.000 Why else is she so obsessed? 0.99
00:24:25.000 Why the granular? 0.58
00:24:26.000 Like, 100 episodes on this.
00:24:28.000 And there's something else, too.
00:24:29.000 You know, like, I don't like to get personal about this sort of stuff, I don't.
00:24:32.000 But this disturbed me a lot.
00:24:34.000 And so I really feel that I have to talk about it.
00:24:36.000 So last night, last night, the angel Michael visited me in a dream.
00:24:44.000 He was carrying a fiery sword.
00:24:46.000 And on one shoulder, he was carrying a boombox.
00:24:49.000 And then the angel turned on the boombox.
00:24:52.000 And the sound of a Charlie Kirk speech came out.
00:24:54.000 And then this was the part that really got me Beyonce showed up randomly.
00:24:59.000 But was it even random?
00:25:00.000 Because then she started singing the 1998 Destiny's Child hit, No, No, No.
00:25:07.000 I woke up with a cold sweat.
00:25:08.000 I was terrified by the power of my vision.
00:25:12.000 Because here's the thing I don't know, no, but I know, no, no, just as Beyonce sang to me.
00:25:20.000 No, no, no.
00:25:22.000 That song was no coincidence, just as Beyonce sang to me from the dream world.
00:25:28.000 But it's not just Dream Girl Beyonce, it's sources, really important sources.
00:25:34.000 I have tons of sources, so many sources, endless numbers of sources, sources so important, I can't name them.
00:25:41.000 Because, you know, I'm afraid what might happen to them if I name those sources.
00:25:43.000 I mean, look what happened to Charlie.
00:25:44.000 Like, I don't know what would happen.
00:25:46.000 If I name those sources and Candace is still out there, what would happen to the sources?
00:25:50.000 I don't know.
00:25:52.000 Listen, I'm told by these really important sources that I can't name and you can't make me name them.
00:25:56.000 This is a free country.
00:25:57.000 You can't make me name those sources.
00:26:00.000 I'm told by those sources that people in her own circle have lots of questions, like lots of people in her circles, like so many people, like maybe all of those people, like all of them.
00:26:09.000 So yeah, sure.
00:26:11.000 I guess what I'm saying is maybe I can't prove that Candace Owens Orchestrated Charlie's murder or was behind it or covered it up or anything.
00:26:18.000 But if you think I'm stupid enough to believe the story that Candace Owens, a powerful person with deep insider government connections and ability to cover things up, I'm supposed to believe Candace Owens. 0.99
00:26:31.000 What do you think I'm stupid? 1.00
00:26:32.000 What are we, dumb? 1.00
00:26:34.000 I mean, we're just noticing too many things, you guys. 0.99
00:26:37.000 We're not allowed to notice the things.
00:26:40.000 We'll be remembering how she randomly went missing for a few days and how much money she's made and her sudden weird sympathy for Islam and Russia.
00:26:47.000 And sex trafficker allegedly in Romania and her deep state sources and her weird marriage story. 0.99
00:26:54.000 How dumb do they think we are? 1.00
00:26:55.000 They think we're dumb? 1.00
00:26:56.000 Is that what they think that we're stupid? 1.00
00:26:59.000 And speaking of stupidly cute, how cute are these bears? 1.00
00:27:03.000 How cute are these bears? 0.99
00:27:04.000 I mean, these are cute bears, right?
00:27:06.000 They're adorable and they're available for $89.99.
00:27:08.000 And if you want to support our search for truth, we need your help.
00:27:11.000 Buy this bear for America.
00:27:14.000 I'll tell you what, though, I'll tell you what I'm not going to buy.
00:27:16.000 I'm not going to buy the theory.
00:27:17.000 A theory that has no evidence, by the way, that Candace Owens is pushing.
00:27:21.000 The one that Candace Owens, with friends in high places and connections throughout the Middle East and Russia, and with embedded agents at TPUSA close to Charlie, wants you to believe the story about Tyler Robinson and the Egyptian government and Charlie Kirk and the Zionists and Tyler Bowen and Erica Kirk.
00:27:36.000 I demand a full investigation.
00:27:39.000 Kash Patel, where are you?
00:27:41.000 Where are you, Kash Patel?
00:27:43.000 Where are you?
00:27:45.000 Attorney General Blanche, where are you?
00:27:47.000 I want a full investigation right now.
00:27:49.000 But let's be real.
00:27:50.000 We know, we know no one's going to do it.
00:27:53.000 No one's going to do that investigation.
00:27:54.000 You can't trust anyone.
00:27:55.000 You can't trust anyone on this stuff except me.
00:27:58.000 You can trust me, but no one else.
00:28:00.000 And sometimes not even me, but really, just me.
00:28:04.000 Seriously, no one except me.
00:28:06.000 And guys, I'm just saying, just saying, just saying.
00:28:10.000 If something happens to me, I did not kill myself.
00:28:13.000 I'm just telling you, if something happens, I've compiled all the evidence.
00:28:16.000 I've compiled it all.
00:28:18.000 I put it all together.
00:28:19.000 I've packaged it right up and I've sent it to Lionel Messi.
00:28:22.000 And it's in his inbox right now.
00:28:25.000 And I also promise you, I promise, guys, if you stick with me, there will be more bombshells to come.
00:28:30.000 We're not going to stop.
00:28:32.000 Not for a single day, not for a single hour, not for a moment, not for a millisecond, not for a zepto second.
00:28:38.000 We're not going to sleep.
00:28:39.000 We're not going to eat.
00:28:40.000 We're not going to breathe until the true perpetrator is tracked down and this crime is solved.
00:28:46.000 I'm not going to sleep.
00:28:47.000 I'm not going to eat.
00:28:48.000 I'm not going to breathe.
00:28:49.000 I'm holding my breath right now.
00:28:52.000 And now, still holding my breath right now.
00:28:59.000 Because we want justice.
00:29:00.000 And we also want you to keep listening tomorrow.
00:29:02.000 Because again, I'm telling you, just telling you, if you listen tomorrow, I will have revelations.
00:29:07.000 They will astonish you.
00:29:09.000 I mean, like incredible stuff I'm getting from my sources every single day.
00:29:13.000 These are the kinds of revelations that will stop you in your tracks.
00:29:16.000 Literally, you'll just be walking and then you'll stop walking when you hear them.
00:29:20.000 You'll just be standing there in the middle of traffic, paralyzed to oncoming trucks because of these revelations.
00:29:25.000 And listen, The only person who could possibly get me to stop is Candace Owens herself.
00:29:35.000 Because listen, Candace Owens, she was BFF's forevers. 0.75
00:29:39.000 With Charlie.
00:29:39.000 She was his bestie, bestie McBestie.
00:29:41.000 And so I have to honor her request.
00:29:43.000 So if Candace asks me to stop, I will.
00:29:46.000 If she asks me to stop, I will.
00:29:48.000 Unless she asks me to stop.
00:29:50.000 That's when I know she did it.
00:29:52.000 I mean, I don't know, but I know, In just a second, I'm going to explain to you what we just did here.
00:30:11.000 Like why that stuff all sounded the way that it did, what Candace does every day, in other words.
00:30:16.000 We're just going to break it down.
00:30:17.000 But speaking of breaking down things, well, you want to talk about things that you actually need, not, you know, like the trash that Candace is spooning, but things you actually need.
00:30:24.000 Sleep, very high on that list.
00:30:25.000 Okay.
00:30:26.000 Right now, I am preparing for a lot of bad nights sleeping, which means when I am sleeping, I need it to be good.
00:30:31.000 I need it to be solid.
00:30:32.000 I need to not worry about tossing and turning on an uncomfortable mattress.
00:30:35.000 We're about to have a baby, and that means sleep is about to go to zero.
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00:31:18.000 Okay.
00:31:19.000 So, uh, the thing that we just did right there, that's the entire business model of the Candace Owens show every single day.
00:31:23.000 That's the product.
00:31:24.000 So you may recall a while back, I gave you what we called the QED framework.
00:31:30.000 Fake questions, fake evidence, fake defenses.
00:31:33.000 And this is what conspiracy theories rest on.
00:31:36.000 Everything that I just said about Candace, she has done to Brian Harpool, to Erica Kirk, to TPUSA, to me, to the truth, piece by piece.
00:31:44.000 So, Just going to break down again the sort of tactics you see being used here.
00:31:47.000 Because again, actually, it needs to stop.
00:31:52.000 Truly, it needs to stop.
00:31:54.000 Okay, so first, fake questions.
00:31:55.000 So start with the kind of tactic I just used.
00:31:57.000 Why won't you release her travel records?
00:31:59.000 Okay, that question presupposes there's something in the travel records.
00:32:03.000 As you can tell, it flips the burden of proof.
00:32:06.000 In an actual court, in actual journalism, in a freshman high school logic class, the person making the claim carries the burden of proof.
00:32:13.000 Just asking questions lets you make an accusation while pretending that you're actually, you know, being an honest truth seeker.
00:32:19.000 And this is the load bearing wall of nine, 10 months of her Charlie Kirk coverage.
00:32:23.000 Why didn't anyone call 911?
00:32:25.000 Who are all the guys in maroon shirts?
00:32:27.000 Why is there no footage?
00:32:28.000 You know, lots of just asking questions, each one smuggling in the premise.
00:32:31.000 There's a cover up.
00:32:32.000 The footage exists and it's being hidden.
00:32:34.000 Grief is choreography, right?
00:32:36.000 She ran it on me the other day.
00:32:37.000 What does Ben Shapiro know?
00:32:38.000 That was her actual episode title.
00:32:40.000 So here's the things that I know precisely what the evidence says.
00:32:43.000 That's all the things that I know.
00:32:45.000 Because again, I am not a con artist.
00:32:47.000 Now, one of the best things about just asking questions is that you get to focus on motives.
00:32:51.000 You get to suggest that motive itself is theoretically evidence.
00:32:55.000 So what you do is you say things like, who benefited Candace's merch sales?
00:32:58.000 And it sounds damning because it's actually true.
00:33:00.000 She made a lot of money off this stuff.
00:33:03.000 But is Candace Owens somehow implicated because of the fact she made a lot of money?
00:33:06.000 Of course not.
00:33:07.000 By that logic, funeral homes are serial killers and firefighters commit arson.
00:33:12.000 Motive tells you maybe where to look for evidence, but it's not evidence itself.
00:33:15.000 So when Candace points at raises given to Charlie's security team or Erica running turning point or at anyone whose life continued after September 10th in any way, That is the same empty nonsense.
00:33:26.000 Life went on for you. 0.95
00:33:27.000 Therefore, you wanted him dead. 0.88
00:33:29.000 Okay.
00:33:30.000 On to E, fake evidence in QED, fake evidence. 0.99
00:33:33.000 So Candace has literally, literally tried to present dreams as a data point on her show.
00:33:40.000 Not just her dreams, viewers' dreams read aloud as corroboration. 0.96
00:33:44.000 I want you to sit with the fact for a second that I did not have to invent the dumbest piece of evidence.
00:33:47.000 It was always in the record. 0.69
00:33:49.000 It was already in the record.
00:33:50.000 She did it.
00:33:51.000 Then there's the secret source, right? 0.99
00:33:53.000 She does this all the time.
00:33:55.000 My version was, I'm told by people in her circle, unverifiable sources, conveniently unfalsifiable.
00:34:00.000 Now, she has a version with a name, Mitchell Snow, and a lawsuit attached because Snow claimed he witnessed Charlie's security chief, Brian Harpole, coming out of a classified meeting at Fort Huachuca the day before the assassination.
00:34:13.000 And Candace called him credible, told her audience she'd verified it, and predicted a full confession from the government.
00:34:19.000 Harpole's complaint says his travel records put him in Dallas that day.
00:34:22.000 He's never set foot at Fort Huachuca, and that she had access to records contradicting the story and kept broadcasting that anyway.
00:34:28.000 That allegation, knowing falsity, is a, is now for a federal court in Tennessee to decide.
00:34:33.000 That's what happens when I'm told my secret sources meet something called discovery.
00:34:36.000 Okay, cherry picking and apophenia.
00:34:39.000 That's pattern seeking to the rest of the case.
00:34:41.000 The Daily Wire security overlap.
00:34:42.000 The memory gaps.
00:34:44.000 Now, each of these things is like a real boring fact, ripped from context and then arranged into a constellation.
00:34:51.000 Like, Charlie Day, it's always sunny style.
00:34:54.000 And that's Candace's entire shtick.
00:34:56.000 Freeze frames of a car interior. 1.00
00:34:58.000 Crowdsourcing the comments section to identify a bag.
00:35:00.000 Someone will recognize the brand.
00:35:02.000 A widow's face graded frame by frame for insufficiently authentic grief.
00:35:07.000 See, we human beings were pattern seeking machines.
00:35:10.000 Point that machine at 50 hours footage on the worst day of someone's life.
00:35:13.000 You will find anomalies because reality is filled with weird things and anomalies.
00:35:17.000 Finally, fake defenses.
00:35:17.000 Okay.
00:35:18.000 D. Here's where it gets airtight.
00:35:20.000 And I mean this as an insult. 0.76
00:35:21.000 If you ask Candace what evidence would change her mind, she will never answer the question because that's non falsifiability.
00:35:27.000 That's the signature of nonsense.
00:35:29.000 When the accused security chief did not respond to her text, that became evidence of guilt.
00:35:33.000 The so called Kafka trap.
00:35:34.000 That's where both denial and silence convict you.
00:35:37.000 And then when Brian Harpole did respond publicly on a podcast, that became evidence he's not a private citizen, and now he's fair game.
00:35:43.000 Heads, shoe wins, tails, you're in on it.
00:35:45.000 And then when one claim collapses, the goalposts magically sprout legs.
00:35:50.000 Charlie was killed by an exploding microphone.
00:35:52.000 No, no, no.
00:35:53.000 It turns out that he was shot, but he was shot from below.
00:35:55.000 No, it turns out he might not have been shot from below, but he might have been shot from above, but not in the way you think.
00:36:00.000 It was the security team.
00:36:01.000 No, it was a Pentagon official.
00:36:03.000 No, it was a meeting at an army base.
00:36:04.000 No, it was foreign intelligence.
00:36:06.000 Every debunking is absorbed as proof of a deeper conspiracy.
00:36:09.000 The deep play.
00:36:10.000 Why has Ben so defensive?
00:36:12.000 Why is Harpulse suing?
00:36:13.000 They must be scared.
00:36:14.000 Now listen, I predicted that she would do this stuff in writing months ago.
00:36:17.000 Not because I'm psychic, but because her playbook has only one page.
00:36:22.000 The escape hatch every single time when it comes down to it.
00:36:24.000 Well, that's just my opinion.
00:36:25.000 It's not a fact.
00:36:27.000 And where there's smoke, there's probably fire, but I have not personally confirmed the fire.
00:36:31.000 So this is called the Mott and Bailey tactic.
00:36:33.000 You spend an hour in the Bailey accusing named living humans of conspiring to murder their friend or their husband.
00:36:39.000 And then you retreat to the mott.
00:36:42.000 Listen, I'm just a truth seeking, honest mother.
00:36:43.000 Can't I just ask questions?
00:36:44.000 Why can't I just ask questions?
00:36:46.000 I mean, like, is it legal to ask questions or is it now illegal?
00:36:50.000 So again, QED fake questions to plant the premise, fake evidence to dress it up, and fake defenses to make it unkillable.
00:36:57.000 I built a ridiculous conspiratorial murder case against Candace Owens in two minutes using her own toolbox.
00:37:03.000 And the only reason it was funny instead of like evil is you know that I was joking. 0.76
00:37:08.000 She is not joking.
00:37:09.000 And there is a cost to that.
00:37:11.000 Now, enormous swaths of the country have spent this entire week as a country focusing on a delusional podcaster who is mostly interested in cash and clicks.
00:37:21.000 You know, what we haven't spent the week doing focusing on the matrix of violence created by radical left wing ideology.
00:37:28.000 You know, the thing that actually killed Charlie, an actual human with an actual family. 0.86
00:37:33.000 We should have been spending the week fighting the radical trans ideology that left Charlie's dead body. 0.79
00:37:38.000 We should have been doing that for like the last 10 months. 0.72
00:37:41.000 Instead, we've been spending it debating whether Candace Owens understands how time zones and physics work.
00:37:46.000 That's not just a problem for us or for Candace Owens.
00:37:49.000 It's an existential problem for our society because when an entire society redirects its attention from true evil in favor of distracting idiocy, true evil continues to grow in the shadows. 0.91
00:37:59.000 But here's the thing. 0.83
00:38:00.000 There's a real evil that was growing right, right out there in the open, right there.
00:38:04.000 Because what Candace is doing is her own kind of evil. 1.00
00:38:07.000 The evil of conspiratorial garbage masquerading as fact-finding, destroying both brain cells and lives. 0.98
00:38:13.000 Because here's the thing. 1.00
00:38:14.000 It's not just that Candace's nonsense makes people dumb, although it does. 1.00
00:38:17.000 Candace's evil grift has real life costs. 1.00
00:38:20.000 Real costs.
00:38:21.000 Brian Harpole is a real human who, according to his lawsuit, spent the day his client and friend was murdered covered in his blood, trying to save his life, and has spent every day since being called an accomplice by thousands of strangers.
00:38:32.000 Erica Kirk is a real widow raising two real kids while former friends grade her tears for authenticity, and reports are written about the number of death threats she receives.
00:38:41.000 Tyler Robinson, you know, the person who actually shot Charlie and the person actually charged with the murder, whom prosecutors say acted alone, becomes an afterthought.
00:38:51.000 I mean, hell, Candace has even said she's willing to aid the defense in this case.
00:38:55.000 Skepticism is healthy.
00:38:57.000 Skepticism means you follow the actual facts and evidence wherever they lead. 0.79
00:39:01.000 But what Candace is doing is precisely the opposite deciding where she's going and then calling the drive research.
00:39:07.000 Now, all this is destructive, and that's actually the point.
00:39:10.000 To tear down institutions that have stood firm through the worst moments of Western society, to wreak havoc, to sow doubt, to build a following, to gain clicks, to make money, that's the game.
00:39:18.000 The audience is the pawn.
00:39:20.000 See, when you start with a premise as ludicrous and evil as Candace's, That a grieving widow collaborated with foreign influencers and foreign influences and shadowy cabals and members of TPUSA to murder her husband or cover up that murder, or that a foreign leader ordered the hit of a popular conservative commentator to drag us into a war, or that an organization plotted the assassination of the person at the head of the organization to line their own pockets.
00:39:42.000 You're forcing the audience to make a choice.
00:39:44.000 Are you going to reject these insane scenarios or are you going to follow Candace into battle?
00:39:49.000 Well, once the latter is chosen, you have now opened yourself up to going down the deepest, darkest rabbit holes imaginable.
00:39:56.000 You have let the conspiratorial demons in.
00:39:58.000 You have joined a cult.
00:39:59.000 What can I believe?
00:40:01.000 Is the evidence being presented before my eyes even real?
00:40:04.000 No way.
00:40:05.000 What is real?
00:40:06.000 Who shot Charlie?
00:40:06.000 Who shot JFK?
00:40:08.000 Are the pyramids real?
00:40:09.000 Are the birds real? 0.98
00:40:10.000 Do the Jews control a space laser? 0.73
00:40:12.000 Who is out to get me?
00:40:13.000 How is the game rigged against me?
00:40:15.000 And by the way, the last couple questions, that's the ultimate goal.
00:40:19.000 Demoralization.
00:40:21.000 To teach everybody that everything is broken and nothing is real.
00:40:24.000 You can't trust anything.
00:40:26.000 You can't trust institutions.
00:40:27.000 You can't trust values.
00:40:28.000 You can't trust morality.
00:40:29.000 You can't trust the scientific process.
00:40:31.000 You can't trust anything.
00:40:33.000 There's only one person you can trust the conspiracy grifter behind the microphone.
00:40:38.000 Okay, that brings us to what actually happened yesterday in the preliminary hearing for Tyler Robinson, the alleged murderer of Charlie Kirk.
00:40:48.000 So it turns out that Erica and Charlie's parents have asked all evidence in court to be shown publicly.
00:40:55.000 So clearly, if they're engaging in a cover up, it's the world's weirdest cover up because they want everything.
00:40:59.000 To actually be shown publicly, which is typically not what happens when you're looking for a cover up.
00:41:05.000 According to Andrea Burkhart reporting, for 10 months, the victim's family has waited for this preliminary hearing.
00:41:10.000 Erica Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk and his grieving parents traveled to this courtroom for one reason.
00:41:14.000 This is their court filing to be present at these proceedings and to bear witness to the evidence concerning the death of their husband and son.
00:41:20.000 At certain points throughout the preliminary hearing, the Kirk family sat in the room while evidence was admitted but not presented for their viewing.
00:41:26.000 They were present in body that denied the very thing their presence was meant to secure, their ability to meaningfully observe the preliminary hearing.
00:41:33.000 And again, they say that they just want everybody to be able to see the evidence.
00:41:39.000 Their filing says, in the absence of transparency, speculation and conspiracy theories related to the tragic assassination of Mr. Kirk will continue to proliferate in the public domain, breeding doubt and distrust in the judicial system, which, of course, is a reference to Candace and her cronies.
00:41:54.000 Well, Tyler Robinson's defense, they thought that it would be a good time to dig at Erica Kirk and Charlie's parents.
00:42:03.000 And I want to point out to the court, Ms. Kirk has been very adept at holding press conferences at which she has revealed evidence.
00:42:11.000 She has represented that the state is her attorney.
00:42:16.000 She has access to all the evidence that the state has publicized and that the media and her own lawyer argues is already in the public domain.
00:42:27.000 So they're perfectly free to go outside this courtroom under the court's protective order.
00:42:33.000 They're free to go out and hold press conferences and announce to the world outside the courtroom what they think the evidence is.
00:42:41.000 The availability of that evidence.
00:42:43.000 But the court's role, I think, at some point is to exercise some control, move the case forward, especially when we have witness availability problems.
00:42:53.000 And so, again, what the attorneys are trying to do on the defense side are basically attack Charlie's family and suggest that something untoward has happened because they're talking about the case publicly.
00:43:01.000 Well, the evidence has been public for quite a while in this particular case. 0.73
00:43:05.000 So, Tyler Robinson's defense, one of the things you'll notice is that they're not using any of the ridiculous material that Candace Owens has tried to present to exonerate Tyler Robinson because it's Just ridiculous and specious.
00:43:15.000 Instead, what they're trying to do is suggest that the Kirk family should not be talking about this case outside of court.
00:43:21.000 But the actual presentation of evidence yesterday in court, and remember, it's a preliminary hearing.
00:43:25.000 This is not the trial.
00:43:26.000 This is just to show that there is a colorable case sufficient to overcome the possibility of reasonable doubt.
00:43:32.000 Okay, so some of the evidence that was presented was Lance Twiggs, who is the trans boyfriend of Tyler Robinson, left a note under his keyboard.
00:43:44.000 Twiggs confirms that Robinson left a note under his keyboard that admits to everything.
00:43:49.000 Do you recognize that on the screen there?
00:43:55.000 Yeah.
00:43:57.000 What do you recognize it as?
00:43:59.000 That was the note under his keyboard that he was referring to in the first text of that chain.
00:44:06.000 So, where did you find this?
00:44:08.000 On his desk, underneath his computer keyboard.
00:44:13.000 The note, by the way, read I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it.
00:44:19.000 Okay, and then again, the way this worked was it wasn't a full scale interview of Lance Twiggs.
00:44:23.000 Lance Twiggs, instead, it was about a 20 minute tape that was played of Lance Twiggs in court.
00:44:27.000 Well, in the tape, Twiggs says that he talked with Robinson the day after, and Robinson started crying and saying that he wishes he hadn't done it.
00:44:37.000 So he acted erratically.
00:44:39.000 Was he pacing?
00:44:42.000 Was he just sitting down, relaxing?
00:44:44.000 No, he was walking around a lot, and that's within the home.
00:44:48.000 Mm hmm.
00:44:51.000 And did he talk about what he had done?
00:44:55.000 I didn't go into detail.
00:44:57.000 I just asked him in person if what he said was true the night before, and he said it was.
00:45:04.000 I started crying a little bit and said he wishes he hadn't done it.
00:45:10.000 And then Twiggs said in the tape as well that Robinson said he was going to turn himself in.
00:45:14.000 Of course, you saw the tape yesterday, we showed it on the show, of him moving toward the police station to turn himself in.
00:45:23.000 And then eventually said that he would talk to his parents or turn himself over.
00:45:30.000 And when you left, was that how you left understanding that he was going to turn himself in or go to his parents' house?
00:45:37.000 Yeah.
00:45:40.000 Twiggs also testified that Tyler Robinson had asked him for a tool to engrave bullets.
00:45:46.000 This is about a month before the shooting.
00:45:49.000 The Dremel that you talked about, you said he had asked for that.
00:45:54.000 Is that right?
00:45:54.000 Mm hmm.
00:45:55.000 And had he told you it was to inscribe bullets?
00:45:58.000 Yeah.
00:45:59.000 And so did you have a Dremel then?
00:46:02.000 Yeah.
00:46:03.000 Okay.
00:46:03.000 It was in our apartment, we had a section where we kept all our random tools for household stuff in our.
00:46:11.000 Lower basement level pantry.
00:46:14.000 So, yeah.
00:46:15.000 Okay.
00:46:16.000 And did you give that to him or tell him where it was?
00:46:18.000 I just told him where it was, yeah.
00:46:21.000 Okay, so Jen Faumoyna, who is a sergeant with the State Bureau of Investigation, explained the photos of Robinson's engraved bullets and what was on them.
00:46:30.000 This is the cartridge case that was recovered from the gun.
00:46:34.000 And what position was this in in the gun?
00:46:38.000 This was the, or this is what was in the chamber.
00:46:41.000 Okay.
00:46:42.000 And the chamber meaning.
00:46:46.000 That's where a cartridge is before it's fired, correct?
00:46:49.000 Yes.
00:46:52.000 Do you notice an inscription or an etching on this cartridge case?
00:46:57.000 Yes, I do.
00:46:58.000 Will you read what that says?
00:46:59.000 Yes.
00:47:01.000 Notices bulge.
00:47:02.000 And if we can go down to page two of the exhibit, will you read what this says?
00:47:09.000 O W O what's?
00:47:11.000 And to page three?
00:47:13.000 This.
00:47:17.000 Okay, and the police also explained the bullets themselves.
00:47:23.000 It turns out that the bullets themselves are soft point bullets.
00:47:28.000 They are designed, soft point bullets, to expand or mushroom on entry.
00:47:32.000 They're not known for producing an exit wound.
00:47:34.000 So, again, all the conspiracy theorists have been doing this routine like, what happened to the exit wound?
00:47:37.000 Why is there an exit wound?
00:47:38.000 The bullet is literally designed not to create exit wounds.
00:47:42.000 That is what it is designed to do.
00:47:44.000 The police also revealed photos of.
00:47:46.000 Tyler Robinson's text directly on his phone.
00:47:49.000 Remember, we were told those texts were fake.
00:47:51.000 Here they are directly on the phone.
00:47:53.000 According to Fox's Matt Finn, Tyler Robinson, the alleged murderer, was squirming when the rifle and his texts were displayed.
00:48:01.000 When they got to the point discussing the rifle that was used, Tyler Robinson was squirming, apparently uncomfortable, swinging in his chair, scratching his nose.
00:48:11.000 He looked uncomfortable with the texts that were being discussed.
00:48:16.000 Now it turns out that pretty much all of these facts were in evidence within the very first days.
00:48:21.000 And we have not found tremendously new material here.
00:48:24.000 Like all of this was clear from the very outset, from the very outset. 1.00
00:48:28.000 So you wonder how the kind of conspiratorial trash that Candace Owens has been pushing received this much play. 1.00
00:48:35.000 One reason, of course, she has a big audience, but there's another reason, which is quote unquote mainstream figures humoring and echoing all this stuff. 0.78
00:48:41.000 Whether it's Tucker Carlson claiming that actually Charlie was killed over Israel, or whether it was Megyn Kelly continuously saying for the last 10 months that she is not going to condemn anything that Candace was doing here.
00:48:52.000 So now, now, at long last, Megyn Kelly.
00:48:55.000 Has said, hey guys, guys.
00:48:58.000 It's time to follow the evidence as Megyn Kelly.
00:49:00.000 Oh, is it now?
00:49:02.000 That's fascinating because he spent 10 months saying that you would rather die than condemn Candace Owens for doing what Candace Owens was doing.
00:49:10.000 So Megyn Kelly, here she is now following the evidence.
00:49:13.000 Wow.
00:49:16.000 We have to deal in evidence.
00:49:18.000 This is not an okay time for who might have been on Charlie's bad side, who might have been threatened by Charlie, who might have been mad at Charlie.
00:49:26.000 We have to talk about.
00:49:28.000 Evidence at this stage, it is time to put up or shut up.
00:49:32.000 And what we see is no evidence, no evidence that will lead us to believe anyone other than Tyler Robinson was responsible for this cause.
00:49:50.000 You know, when would be a good time for her to say that?
00:49:55.000 I don't know.
00:49:56.000 Maybe back in September of 2025.
00:49:59.000 What changed between now and then, by the way?
00:50:00.000 Now it's time to listen to the evidence?
00:50:02.000 Now it's time for people to put up or shut up?
00:50:04.000 Weird. 0.99
00:50:05.000 By the way, earlier this week, you had Megyn Kelly saying people should leave Erica alone just for this week.
00:50:10.000 Which people?
00:50:11.000 Which people?
00:50:12.000 Who?
00:50:12.000 Who?
00:50:13.000 Who would?
00:50:14.000 Hmm.
00:50:19.000 I gotta say, it's been kind of crazy to watch. 0.91
00:50:25.000 Erica had to sit through this and have to deal with all of this.
00:50:29.000 And I really, really wish that the people who have doubts about Erica Kirk would just keep them quiet this week.
00:50:38.000 I mean, whether you like her or you don't like her, hopefully the human inside of you can see how difficult this is for her and the family to sit in there and have to listen to this and have to be feet away from Tyler Robinson and then soon the videotape of the lover and.
00:50:58.000 They're removing themselves for the most graphic pieces of the testimony, but they're hearing enough.
00:51:04.000 This is going to be intensely upsetting.
00:51:08.000 And this is going to, wow.
00:51:09.000 Has anything else been intensely upsetting over the last 10 months or so?
00:51:12.000 I don't know.
00:51:12.000 I don't know.
00:51:13.000 But now would be like an amazing time for Megyn Kelly to, you know, maybe talk about the people who are attacking Erica Kirk. 0.67
00:51:22.000 You know, when else would have been an amazing time, anytime over the past 10 months.
00:51:26.000 But in that very same broadcast, Here was Megyn Kelly when asked directly about Candace Owens' perverse attacks on Erica Kirk and TPUSA and everybody else.
00:51:36.000 She was confronted, unfortunately for her, by one of her own guests on this.
00:51:40.000 And here she was.
00:51:44.000 I mean, I don't agree with Candace's theory of this case, but I have to say, I genuinely believe she was traumatized by watching her.
00:51:52.000 Oh, was she?
00:51:53.000 I can relate to it.
00:51:55.000 And I think she was.
00:51:56.000 Not Erica Kirk. 0.95
00:51:57.000 And I think she distrusts authority.
00:51:59.000 I don't agree with her.
00:52:00.000 Again, Matt, but I just like.
00:52:02.000 And I know people have very strong feelings about her.
00:52:04.000 I just.
00:52:05.000 Oh, do they?
00:52:06.000 I think she's in her own search for what she believes happened here.
00:52:11.000 Her own search has zero trust in official words on anything.
00:52:15.000 Oh, that's what it is.
00:52:16.000 She's on her own journey, guys.
00:52:18.000 We got back.
00:52:18.000 She's on her journey.
00:52:19.000 She's searching for her truth.
00:52:21.000 She was traumatized, which is why it's totally fine for her.
00:52:24.000 I mean, she's a young mother, is what Megan originally said.
00:52:26.000 She's a young mother.
00:52:27.000 And she's not going to say anything about a young mother who is busily attacking a young widow mother.
00:52:33.000 She's not going to say.
00:52:33.000 She's not.
00:52:34.000 She's traumatized.
00:52:36.000 Here's the thing. 0.99
00:52:37.000 Wicked grifters like Candace Owens can't do all of this alone. 0.95
00:52:40.000 They can't do it without a little help from the friends Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson and Sean Ryan and the rest of the conspiratorial clown car. 0.98
00:52:49.000 But don't worry, the fearless search for truth in Podcastistan continues.
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