The Ben Shapiro Show - Feelings Don’t Care About Your Facts | Ep. 846

00:00:00.000 Major left-leaning cities push a bevy of insanely backwards policies, the White House prepares for the G7, and Bernie Sanders wants to spend all of your money.

00:00:08.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:09.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:10.000 We have a lot to get to today.

00:00:17.000 The late breaking news right before the show is the passing of David Koch.

00:00:22.000 He's the conservative billionaire.

00:00:24.000 Obviously, he's become this bugaboo to the left, but that's because the left doesn't understand who David Koch was.

00:00:30.000 And if you watch the response on Twitter, Twitter is just the worst place on earth. 0.99

00:00:33.000 It is just a garbage heap of humanity. 1.00

00:00:35.000 It's horrible, horrible, horrible. 0.99

00:00:37.000 If you read the tweets, You're looking at reporters, like Matthew Chapman from Raw Story, saying the definitive top 10 list of modern people who have done the most damage to America.

00:00:47.000 Rupert Murdoch, Mitch McConnell, Charles Koch, David Koch. 0.96

00:00:51.000 And then you get the tweet of God, which is this popular stupid parody account, 6 million followers, saying RIP David Koch. 0.99

00:00:58.000 That's a request to Satan. 1.00

00:00:59.000 Rip him.

00:01:01.000 And Michael Ian Black tweeted out, in lieu of flowers, the family of David Koch requests that Mourner simply purchase a Republican politician. 0.78

00:01:08.000 I mean, this is just disgusting. 0.97

00:01:09.000 It's disgusting. 0.98

00:01:10.000 I mean, Twitter is an awful, awful place. 0.99

00:01:14.000 David Roth, who is a reporter, supposedly, at Deadspin, which is a ridiculous website owned by Ted Cruz. 0.85

00:01:20.000 He tweeted out, David Koch had a dream, which was to make things easier for himself and a few friends, while also making things significantly worse for everyone else on the planet.

00:01:28.000 He is gone.

00:01:29.000 But now that work falls to all of us.

00:01:31.000 Today, whenever you get a chance, harm someone vulnerable.

00:01:33.000 I mean, this is the the way that the left treats the death of a man who gave hundreds of millions of dollars in charity to many of the institutions they like.

00:01:44.000 And they don't know anything about David Koch.

00:01:45.000 All they know is that he's a bugaboo.

00:01:47.000 All they know is that David Koch is mean because he gave a lot of money to Republican politicians.

00:01:50.000 Doesn't matter that he didn't support Trump in 2016. 0.86

00:01:53.000 All that matters is that David Koch was a Republican, and all Republicans are bad.

00:01:58.000 And then you wonder how you got Trump, guys?

00:01:59.000 It's because it doesn't matter what the belief system is of anyone with an R next to their name.

00:02:04.000 So long as there's an R next to their name, they are the face and root of all evil. 1.00

00:02:08.000 We saw this when John McCain died, too.

00:02:10.000 There were people on the left talking about the evils of John McCain, who was a very moderate Republican.

00:02:15.000 Well, David Koch passes away at the age of 79.

00:02:18.000 And it no longer matters that David Koch ended, that he had given an enormous amount of money to all sorts of various non-partisan enterprises.

00:02:30.000 He was a major benefactor of the Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center.

00:02:34.000 At Dan's Focus Theater at Lincoln Center bears his name.

00:02:36.000 He gave $100 million to the Lincoln Center.

00:02:39.000 Last year, Koch Industry said that Koch's donations and pledges to philanthropic organizations had topped $1.3 billion.

00:02:46.000 It's not money that he was sucking out of somebody else's pocket via the courtesy of government.

00:02:51.000 That was money that he was spending out of his own pocket on charitable causes. 0.93

00:02:55.000 But he's very, very bad.

00:02:56.000 Now, you would think from all of this that David Koch was some rabid right-winger.

00:03:00.000 David Koch was a libertarian, guys.

00:03:01.000 David Koch was an early supporter of same-sex marriage.

00:03:03.000 David Koch, to the end of his life, was not pro-life.

00:03:07.000 That does not matter.

00:03:08.000 So long as David Koch gave money to Republican causes and free market causes, he was evil.

00:03:12.000 And understand that this is how a lot of the Democratic left feels about anybody who spends any money in pursuit of politics, who spends any time pushing right-wing, meaning libertarian, causes.

00:03:25.000 Anybody who pushes for limited government and free markets is a bad guy.

00:03:28.000 I mean, this is how it is headlined at CNN.

00:03:31.000 David Koch, billionaire businessman and influential GOP donor, dies.

00:03:36.000 And the entire beginning of the article doesn't really talk about his company, which is responsible for the employment of a full 120,000 people in the United States.

00:03:45.000 Bernie Sanders is good.

00:03:46.000 He's never employed a human being that he has paid for himself.

00:03:49.000 Not one.

00:03:50.000 It's all been paid for by taxpayer dollars, but he's good.

00:03:52.000 The essence of good On the far left, is that if you work at the expense of taxpayer dollars, and you never create anything, you are good.

00:04:00.000 If you are David Koch, and you're responsible for the creation of a huge company, and you hire 120,000 people, and you give 1.3 billion dollars in charity, including an enormous amount of charity, to non-partisan excellent causes, like the arts and fighting cancer, then you are evil, because you also gave money to Republican causes.

00:04:21.000 I honestly do not know how we can continue to have a republic when people like David Koch are demonized by the left.

00:04:28.000 Now, a lot of them are saying, well, you know, he was in the gas industry.

00:04:31.000 Ooh, well, he was in the gas industry.

00:04:33.000 Yeah, you know what else?

00:04:34.000 A lot of people are in the gas industry.

00:04:36.000 You want all of them out of work?

00:04:38.000 David Koch, again, was an important voice in the political debate, but he was not the rabid right-wing crazy that so many on the left paint him to be.

00:04:49.000 Here's CNN reporting.

00:05:13.000 Here's CNN reporting In some elections, the Koch network rivaled the spending and scope of the National Republican Party.

00:05:18.000 Analysts view their activism as helping to have fueled the Tea Party movement.

00:05:22.000 Ooh, a movement that called for smaller government.

00:05:24.000 Ooh, so terrible.

00:05:26.000 Coke was most active in Americans for Prosperity, the grassroots arm of the Coke's sprawling network, which built a coalition of more than three million activists to push the agenda of the Cokes and the roughly 700 like-minded donors to help fund their public policy work.

00:05:39.000 I love it whenever people on the left suggest that a campaign donation is so that they will push the agenda of the person donating, as though politics is a simple art of bribery.

00:05:49.000 Okay, well then unions who donate to politicians are bribing the politicians.

00:05:52.000 Tom Steyer is bribing politicians.

00:05:54.000 George Soros, yes George Soros, is bribing politicians.

00:05:57.000 If this is your logic, if your logic is that if you give money to a politician who supports the agenda that you also support, that you are therefore bribing the politician, then all campaign donations are bribery and that would include Democratic billionaires.

00:06:10.000 In the era of President Donald Trump, the network has undergone a significant shift in focus, upping its commitment to work across party lines on top priorities like free trade and creating a path to permanent legal status for undocumented immigrants.

00:06:21.000 Again, they're libertarian.

00:06:22.000 They're very, very soft on illegal immigration.

00:06:25.000 In June, Americans for Prosperity announced four new political action committees and said it would wade into primaries to help incumbent politicians, including Democrats, who side with Koch on trade, immigration, and other issues.

00:06:37.000 Obviously, David Koch was supremely evil, according to the left, because he was rich, and because they gave lots of money, and because they were Republicans.

00:06:47.000 The treatment of the Koch brothers was shoddy during their lifetime, and it's shoddy after his death, so that is not a major shock.

00:06:53.000 Okay, meanwhile... 0.98

00:06:55.000 In other news, America's major cities, governed by the Democratic left, happen to suck. 0.93

00:07:01.000 I mean, they are just, the living conditions are getting worse and worse in America's major cities. 0.99

00:07:06.000 And that is because of stupid policies being pursued out of feeling, but not out of actual sympathy for taxpayers or for rule of law. 0.98

00:07:14.000 We'll get to that in just one second. 0.99

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00:08:32.000 As I say, America's major cities governed almost solely by Democrats are doing an amazing job of making what used to be nice cities into worse places.

00:08:41.000 So this week, Texas has joined the national battle over the urban homeless crisis.

00:08:47.000 The city of Austin has now made it legal to sleep on the street.

00:08:52.000 I can't imagine they're going to have an increased homeless problem in the city of Austin like we have here in the city of Los Angeles.

00:08:56.000 According to the Washington Post, Christopher Paula hasn't felt a police officer tapping at his foot in more than a month.

00:09:02.000 The tap tap tap that usually meant he was about to get another citation that he was never going to pay.

00:09:07.000 Living on the streets for five years after he lost his graphic design job, Paul has been having undisturbed nights since the city council and mayor eased restrictions on public camping this summer, a move that liberal lawmakers build as a humane and pragmatic reform of the criminal justice system.

00:09:22.000 But the change has drawn the ire of Republicans and local business owners who decry it as a threat to public safety and the local economy, exposing a partisan clash over how to manage poverty and affordable housing in America's cities.

00:09:32.000 Yes, because it turns out that your feelings of sympathy for the homeless are in direct contravention of public order and rule of law.

00:09:38.000 Allowing people to sleep in public, on streets, outside businesses, drives down the ability of businesses to do their job, which drives down the taxpayer dollars that you need to fund the city.

00:09:47.000 It makes the cities dirtier.

00:09:49.000 It makes the cities more difficult to manage in terms of both crime and in terms of disease.

00:09:53.000 We have seen it here in Los Angeles, in Seattle, in San Francisco.

00:09:56.000 Austin has their public camping ban relaxed.

00:10:01.000 According to Christopher Paul, this homeless person, who again has been homeless for five years since losing his graphic design job.

00:10:08.000 He couldn't find any other job.

00:10:09.000 He was working in graphic design.

00:10:10.000 There are no jobs anywhere in the country for a guy who is doing graphic design for five years.

00:10:15.000 Somehow I find this a little bit hard to believe.

00:10:18.000 We have a 3.7% unemployment rate in this country.

00:10:22.000 There is nothing law-abiding about loitering and trespassing on public property.

00:10:27.000 Nothing.

00:10:29.000 This is not about lack of sympathy for somebody who is homeless, particularly in the short term. 0.96

00:10:33.000 But when you decide to make the decision to live on the street for five years when there are homeless shelters available in a bevy of cities, when you are in fact living on the street with all of your crap, presumably you are defecating in public because where else would you do it? 0.88

00:10:46.000 My sympathy is with the taxpayers. 0.97

00:10:47.000 My sympathy is with the businesses.

00:10:49.000 My sympathy is with the law abiding in that community.

00:10:52.000 Paul says people can sleep better in the open.

00:10:54.000 They're a lot safer than somewhere hiding in a back alley.

00:10:57.000 He estimates that he has received 20 citations for illegal camping before the rule went into effect on July 1st.

00:11:02.000 But as Paul, 50, sprawled out shirtless on the sidewalk on a 100-degree day, shop owner Craig Staley stood a few feet away on Congress Avenue reconsidering his party affiliation.

00:11:12.000 Staley said, I got two emails last month from customers who said, I can't go to your store anymore because it smells like urine.

00:11:16.000 I'm a Democrat at heart.

00:11:17.000 I've been in Austin, Texas for over 30 years.

00:11:19.000 But I'm telling you, I'm feeling a lot more red these days when it comes to my business.

00:11:22.000 Yeah, no bleep.

00:11:24.000 It turns out everybody is sympathetic to the homeless until they start peeing on your front doorstep.

00:11:29.000 There is nothing law-abiding or decent for the city, or by the way, decent for people who, a large, a large plurality or majority of people who are homeless suffer from severe mental illness or drug addiction.

00:11:40.000 It is not sympathetic to leave someone severely schizophrenic on the street talking to themselves, living in their own filth. 0.99

00:11:44.000 I don't know how that is deemed to be sympathetic.

00:11:47.000 With an estimated 2,200 homeless adults sleeping on sidewalks and in makeshift tent cities, Austin has become the latest flashpoint in the national debate over whether homeless residents have a constitutional right to sleep on public streets, particularly in cities grappling with overcrowded shelters.

00:12:02.000 Yes, I'm sure this is what the founders meant.

00:12:04.000 They meant that you have the freedom to sleep right in front of somebody else's business and pee on their doorstep.

00:12:09.000 I am sure that that is exactly what the founders meant.

00:12:12.000 Constitutional right to sleep in public.

00:12:14.000 Sure. 1.00

00:12:15.000 The city of Boise, Idaho What absolute crap? 1.00

00:12:18.000 Unconstitutional? 1.00

00:12:19.000 To criminalize public sleeping?

00:12:19.000 Really?

00:12:19.000 So if there are insufficient public restrooms, let's say the restroom is full one day, can I just crap in the open?

00:12:23.000 Because apparently, according to the same logic, I should be able to.

00:12:25.000 Unconstitutional when there is inadequate shelter space. 1.00

00:12:27.000 What absolute crap? 0.99

00:12:28.000 Unconstitutional to criminalize public sleeping? 1.00

00:12:33.000 Really? 0.98

00:12:34.000 So if there are insufficient public restrooms, let's say the restroom is full one day, can I just crap in the open? 0.87

00:12:38.000 Because apparently, according to the same logic, I should be able to.

00:12:42.000 After all, the toilet is occupied and I gotta go. 0.91

00:12:44.000 Meanwhile, my favorite thing about left-leaning media coverage is whenever Democrats push a really garbage policy, the story is Republicans pouncing. 0.70

00:12:54.000 So here it is, according to the Washington Post.

00:12:57.000 Meanwhile, Republicans have made the nation's growing homeless population a political weapon, characterizing it as a failure of liberal policies.

00:13:03.000 Yeah, you know why?

00:13:04.000 Because it is a failure of liberal policies.

00:13:06.000 I've been in LA my entire life.

00:13:08.000 The city was not always like this.

00:13:10.000 Every single bench in the city of Los Angeles is now occupied by a homeless person.

00:13:17.000 That is a public safety threat.

00:13:20.000 A lot of these people have criminal backgrounds.

00:13:22.000 Not all of them.

00:13:23.000 Many of them. 0.93

00:13:25.000 Many of them are schizophrenic. 0.98

00:13:26.000 Many of them have severe mental illness. 0.99

00:13:28.000 A huge number of them are drug addicts. 0.93

00:13:30.000 You think that's safe for a city?

00:13:32.000 You think that is great for the public life of a city?

00:13:36.000 It is not sympathetic to the homeless?

00:13:38.000 It is not sympathetic to the people who have to live in the community around the homeless?

00:13:42.000 This is it's really bad policy.

00:13:44.000 And again, it is sympathy for one particular group of people overtaking a policy that actually makes a city better for everyone.

00:13:51.000 Everybody was all over Rudy Giuliani in the 90s and early 2000s when he was cleaning up the homeless problem in New York, except that he helped turn New York and the center of New York, particularly from one of the worst, seediest places in America into one of the best.

00:14:04.000 President Trump said at a Cincinnati rally this month, look at L.A.

00:14:07.000 with the tents and the horrible, horrible conditions.

00:14:09.000 Look at San Francisco.

00:14:10.000 Look at some of your other cities.

00:14:12.000 California Governor Gavin Newsom said that Democratic policies have fueled the economic resurgence of U.S.

00:14:17.000 cities that has caused a short-term increase in homelessness.

00:14:21.000 Wait, so he's going to have to explain.

00:14:23.000 According to the Democrats, the reason there's a homelessness crisis is because people are too poor to afford housing.

00:14:28.000 And yet apparently, according to Gavin Newsom, it is a burgeoning, booming economy in Democratic areas that is causing the homeless problem.

00:14:34.000 So which is it?

00:14:35.000 California is home to nearly half of the nation's homeless people who do not use shelters, which suggests a lot of people are coming from other states and camping out in L.A.

00:14:44.000 cities, in California cities.

00:14:46.000 Why? 0.82

00:14:46.000 Because the weather's good, and because they know they're not going to be moved, and because the ACLU has prevented the police from removing bags of crap on L.A. 0.82

00:14:53.000 sidewalks.

00:14:55.000 In L.A., you're apparently allowed to sleep in your car as long as possible.

00:15:00.000 Newsom said, we don't need the president's megaphone to tell us that we have challenges.

00:15:04.000 Adding that California is spending $1.7 billion to address housing affordability.

00:15:08.000 Again, this is the same state that is about to implement a totalitarian rent control statute that basically makes it impossible for developers to create new units.

00:15:19.000 In Austin, Governor Greg Abbott has threatened to push the GOP-dominated Texas legislature to pass a law overriding Austin's public camping action, which is what should happen.

00:15:27.000 Matt Mikoviak, chairman of the county party in Travis County.

00:15:30.000 He says they thought it would be compassionate and not a big deal.

00:15:32.000 But it has been an absolute disaster for the city.

00:15:35.000 This is our best example of overreach.

00:15:37.000 So we've been strategically focusing on this issue.

00:15:40.000 But the Austin mayor, a Democrat, he says, when you move these people, they don't disappear.

00:15:43.000 They just go somewhere else.

00:15:45.000 Yes, that's true.

00:15:45.000 They go not outside businesses and they don't drive down the tax base and provide a public safety hazard in different areas of the city.

00:15:51.000 Now, obviously, that doesn't mean you should shuttle them into low-income areas, which is the other solution you've seen from Democrats in these cities.

00:15:57.000 He says the real answer is not just moving people from there to over and back again.

00:16:01.000 The real answer is giving them the services they need.

00:16:02.000 Oh, really?

00:16:03.000 Because as it turns out, the city of Seattle has what they literally call the drunk dorms.

00:16:09.000 Where they do not have restrictions on people getting drunk or using drugs in these affordable housing units.

00:16:14.000 And these places have turned into festering centers for crime and drug use, which is not a particular shock.

00:16:20.000 Previously, the city prohibited sitting or lying down on public sidewalks or sleeping outdoors in downtown Austin.

00:16:25.000 Between 2014 and 2016, Austin police issued 18,000 citations for rule violations.

00:16:31.000 But those cited didn't show up for court 90% of the time.

00:16:35.000 Yes, but the point is that you don't want people feeling the ability to settle down on the sidewalk as a permanent housing solution. 0.97

00:16:43.000 As we'll see, the city of Los Angeles has been backing off of its own stupid policies on this sort of stuff. 0.97

00:16:49.000 Because even Democrats are realizing this is bad policy. 0.99

00:16:52.000 After a while, facts get in the way of feelings, as I am fond of saying.

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00:18:11.000 So as I say, L.A.

00:18:13.000 was a leader in the let's-just-let-the-homeless-take-over-the-city movement.

00:18:17.000 And now they're backing off of it.

00:18:19.000 Shock.

00:18:19.000 Because it turns out taxpayers not particularly happy when you walk outside your front door and there's some dude shooting heroin into his foot.

00:18:27.000 L.A.' 's City Council Homelessness and Poverty Committee on Wednesday, according to LAS.com, recommended repealing a controversial ordinance prohibiting homeless people from sitting or sleeping on sidewalks.

00:18:37.000 The committee wants City Council to replace the law with one that is more narrowly tailored and compliant with a recent federal court decision.

00:18:45.000 The ordinance, Municipal Code Section 4118, known in homeless advocacy circles as the Sit-Lie Law, makes it a criminal offense to sit, lie, or sleep on a public sidewalk anywhere in the city.

00:18:54.000 The law was the subject of a major lawsuit, Jones v.

00:18:56.000 L.A., which was settled in 2007.

00:18:59.000 Right now, the city can only enforce the law under limited circumstances.

00:19:02.000 The proposed replacement law lays out a lengthy list of circumstances and conditions under which occupying a sidewalk would be banned.

00:19:09.000 These include within 500 feet of parks and schools and within 10 feet of a driveway or building entrance.

00:19:15.000 Yes, this will certainly solve the problem.

00:19:16.000 So we will shuttle people over five feet and that'll definitely fix it. 0.96

00:19:19.000 Committee members and city attorney's offices are recommending the change in order to align LA's municipal code with the 2018 federal court ruling that limits how cities can enforce anti-camping and anti-loitering laws.

00:19:30.000 In that case, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals struck down a Boise law that outlawed sleeping in any public space in that city.

00:19:37.000 The judge in that case, because the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is an awful, terrible, horrible legal institution, wrote, As long as there is no option of sleeping indoors, the government cannot criminalize indigent homeless people for sleeping outdoors on public property on the false premise they had a choice in the matter.

00:19:51.000 Well, yes, as long as there is freedom to travel in the United States, you do have a choice as to where you choose to live.

00:19:56.000 The city in that case had no shelter beds indoors.

00:19:58.000 It is not the city's duty.

00:20:00.000 It really is not.

00:20:01.000 It is not the city's duty to provide a bed for everybody in the city.

00:20:04.000 That is not the way the Constitution of the United States works.

00:20:08.000 I mean, really.

00:20:09.000 So now the idea is that if the city doesn't pay for your car, then you have a right to ride the bus for free.

00:20:16.000 You have a right to ride the bus for free.

00:20:18.000 That's how this works now.

00:20:19.000 If the city doesn't pay for something that you want, then you get to just take advantage of city services and violate the law in doing so.

00:20:28.000 The LA Council law that is currently on the books is virtually identical to the Boise law, but it has not been enforced.

00:20:37.000 There are more than 27,000 people experiencing unsheltered homelessness in the city of L.A.

00:20:42.000 at any given time.

00:20:42.000 There are about 8,100 shelter beds.

00:20:44.000 More than half of those beds are reserved for families with children.

00:20:48.000 Thousands of people are living on the sidewalks.

00:20:50.000 So here's the list of proposed restrictions.

00:20:51.000 Within 10 feet of a driveway or building entrance.

00:20:54.000 But other than that, I guess you're fine.

00:20:56.000 So if you just sleep within 11 feet, you're fine.

00:20:58.000 Within 500 feet of a park, school, or daycare center.

00:21:01.000 Because that'll certainly solve the problem.

00:21:03.000 Being 500 feet away, having a homeless encampment 500 feet away from the entrance of a kindergarten is fantastic.

00:21:10.000 On bike paths, tunnels, bridges, pedestrian subways that is on city designated school routes.

00:21:16.000 On public land with posted no trespassing signs and public crowded sidewalk areas.

00:21:21.000 The proposed law would make it illegal to follow or speak to a person in a manner that could cause them to fear for their safety or property, or to intimidate a person into giving money, or cause them to respond immediately with a violent reaction because of the inherent nature of the perceived harm.

00:21:34.000 Naturally, homeless advocates are calling this inhumane.

00:21:38.000 Our cities are turning into trash heaps, and this is democratic policy all the way through. 1.00

00:21:42.000 How stupid, by the way, is the democratic policy getting? 1.00

00:21:45.000 San Francisco is introducing a new law. 1.00

00:21:47.000 You ready for this?

00:21:49.000 They want to change the law so that the law does not contain the words offender or addict.

00:21:56.000 And they also want to change the phrase convicted felon to justice involved person.

00:22:01.000 Justice involved person.

00:22:03.000 So you get out of jail after 11 years for a second degree murder or something.

00:22:08.000 You are now a justice-involved person.

00:22:10.000 Just like a lawyer is a justice-involved person.

00:22:12.000 You're a justice-involved person.

00:22:14.000 The Board of Supervisors adopted the changes last month, even as the city reels from one of the highest crime rates in the country and staggering inequality exemplified by pervasive homelessness alongside Silicon Valley wealth.

00:22:25.000 The local officials say the new language will help change people's views about those who commit crime.

00:22:28.000 Yeah, I'm sure that's right.

00:22:30.000 Now that you said it, that rapist who is a justice-involved person, I think of him not anymore as a convicted rapist.

00:22:35.000 Now I think of him as just a person who is unfortunately and against his will involved in the criminal justice system.

00:22:42.000 It's unreal.

00:22:43.000 It's unreal.

00:22:45.000 These policies don't work.

00:22:46.000 They're specifically designed at covering over the failure of democratic policies.

00:22:51.000 And I love how the media cover this stuff.

00:22:55.000 The New York Times has a story today about education in the city of New York.

00:22:58.000 City school test scores inch up, but less than half of students pass.

00:23:03.000 Whoopsie doodle, turns out that education in the city of New York, where they spend enormous resources, only 46% of the city's third through eighth graders pass the state math exam.

00:23:12.000 A three percentage point increase from last year.

00:23:15.000 Only 47% of students pass the English exam.

00:23:18.000 Everything is going great in Democrat governed cities.

00:23:20.000 It's all wonderful.

00:23:22.000 You can't focus on any of the underlying problems.

00:23:24.000 You can't focus on the mental health problem.

00:23:27.000 You can't focus on the drug addiction problem.

00:23:29.000 When it comes to homelessness, you can't focus on the problem of single parent families who have to split their attention between work and making sure their kid has help with their homework.

00:23:39.000 You can't focus on any of the underlying problems.

00:23:40.000 Instead, we just say that criminals are justice-involved persons.

00:23:43.000 We say that homeless people are not homeless, they're just unsheltered.

00:23:46.000 And we suggest that educational failures are the result of not spending enough money on education.

00:23:51.000 How wonderful.

00:23:52.000 How wonderful. 0.99

00:23:52.000 And this is how you get to, by the way, a democratic party that has now fully embraced the idea that the only measure of sympathy is how much money you spend on crap. 0.99

00:24:01.000 We'll get to that in just one second. 0.94

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00:25:25.000 Okay, so as I say, Democrats, because feelings matter more than facts, because they don't care if the city of Los Angeles is overrun so long as they can pat themselves on the back for their sympathy for the homeless, while the city declines, while the tax base flees, while people move out increasingly to the suburbs to get away from the center of major cities that are rotting out in the core.

00:25:44.000 At the same time, Democrats are patting themselves on the back because they spend lots of money.

00:25:48.000 Because money that you spend from somebody else, not David Koch, who spent his own money on charity.

00:25:52.000 If they spend your money, this demonstrates how committed they are to a cause.

00:25:56.000 Case in point today, Bernie Sanders has now promoted a $16.3 trillion climate plan on Thursday.

00:26:05.000 Bernie Sanders, a socialist?

00:26:05.000 No!

00:26:06.000 envisions a significant expansion of the government's role in the economy.

00:26:09.000 No. Bernie Sanders, a socialist?

00:26:11.000 No.

00:26:12.000 He would offer billions in subsidies to replace gas-guzzling vehicles with electric ones by 2030, a new public system of clean electricity generation that could sideline private utilities, and an infrastructure program that would remake much of the economy and employ an estimated 20 million more Americans.

00:26:28.000 This is one of the beautiful things.

00:26:30.000 This is one of the beautiful things about being a Democrat.

00:26:32.000 You can just say stuff like, I'm gonna spend one gajillion dollars and it will create 20 gajillion jobs.

00:26:38.000 And people are like, how?

00:26:40.000 It just will, man.

00:26:42.000 Remember when Barack Obama was talking about shovel-ready jobs that didn't materialize?

00:26:45.000 And then he was talking about green jobs that didn't materialize?

00:26:49.000 And now Bernie Sanders is doing the same thing and the media's like, oh!

00:26:53.000 The sheer scale of the effort, which the Independent from Vermont compares to FDR's 1940s mobilization to fight World War II, was central to his message in rolling out the plan.

00:27:02.000 It's a feature, not a bug, that it's going to destroy the American economy and force us to spend trillions. 0.97

00:27:07.000 Because after all, we can measure your sympathy in dollars.

00:27:09.000 Not your own dollars.

00:27:11.000 In the number of dollars that you wish to take out of somebody else's pocket.

00:27:14.000 It's a beautiful, beautiful thing.

00:27:16.000 Now, this does result in a great irony, which is that when Bernie Sanders is called on it, he's got nothing.

00:27:21.000 So listen to these two clips.

00:27:23.000 It's pretty funny.

00:27:23.000 He was at a town hall event yesterday, and he's talking about how we have to transition away from fossil fuels, which, if you are worried about climate change, then you do want a transition away from fossil fuels over the course of time.

00:27:35.000 There is no way to do it right now.

00:27:36.000 The technology is simply not sophisticated enough.

00:27:39.000 There are certain things that you can do, like we should explore geoengineering, building more infrastructure to prevent against rising sea levels, right?

00:27:46.000 Building seawalls.

00:27:47.000 There are certain things you can do for mitigation.

00:27:49.000 There are certain things you can do to heighten adaptation, maybe making it easier for people to move from particular low-lying areas as sea levels rise, for example.

00:27:57.000 And then there is stuff that you can do to actually mitigate climate change itself.

00:28:02.000 Some of that involves shooting Sulfur into the air has been explored.

00:28:06.000 This is geoengineering.

00:28:07.000 There's also talk about technological innovation.

00:28:09.000 And it's always funny to me when people say we have to subsidize technological innovation.

00:28:14.000 OK, well, you know who the person who wins the race to create an alternative energy source that is even nearly as efficient as carbon emissions?

00:28:22.000 You know what their reward is?

00:28:24.000 All the monies.

00:28:25.000 All of them.

00:28:26.000 If you are the person who discovers nuclear fusion, that does not require the heat of the sun, if you are the person who discovers that and makes it cost-effective on a small scale, then you are going to be the wealthiest person in the history of humanity.

00:28:39.000 So that's a pretty good incentive.

00:28:41.000 Nonetheless, Bernie Sanders says we have to transition now.

00:28:44.000 Now we have no choice.

00:28:45.000 Right this very instant.

00:28:47.000 It is no secret that we must transition away from fossil fuel.

00:28:54.000 Period.

00:28:55.000 End of discussion.

00:29:00.000 There ain't no middle grounds here.

00:29:02.000 Right.

00:29:03.000 There is no middle ground.

00:29:04.000 There's no middle ground!

00:29:05.000 Okay, so somebody gets up and they say, well, so there's no middle ground.

00:29:07.000 Why are you driving a car?

00:29:08.000 And Bernie's got nothing.

00:29:11.000 You seem adamant about climate change, of course.

00:29:14.000 So what ways would you take to practice what you preach if you were to become president?

00:29:19.000 Because I know it's stressful and you have to travel a lot, and you have to use fossil fuels.

00:29:24.000 No, I'm not going to walk to California.

00:29:27.000 Look, I understand that.

00:29:29.000 We do the best we can as an example, but I'm not going to sit here and tell you that we're not going to use fossil fuels.

00:29:35.000 Oh, oh, well, oh, well.

00:29:36.000 But I thought we have no choice.

00:29:38.000 There's no middle ground.

00:29:39.000 I cannot give you any one, even one specific way in which I am reducing my carbon footprint.

00:29:44.000 But it is a war and we must do something right.

00:29:47.000 This is the beautiful thing about being on the left.

00:29:49.000 It's a war against poverty, but I'm not going to spend my money on it.

00:29:53.000 I'm going to spend somebody else's money on it.

00:29:54.000 It's a war against climate change.

00:29:56.000 But I am going to continue to fly my private jet to Iowa and out of Iowa.

00:30:02.000 And again, sympathy can be measured according to Democrats in how many dollars from somebody else's pocket you spend.

00:30:07.000 So you get Bernie saying this.

00:30:09.000 People are telling me, Bernie, the plan you just released to combat climate change is expensive.

00:30:14.000 And you know what?

00:30:14.000 They're right.

00:30:15.000 It is expensive.

00:30:16.000 But the cost of doing nothing is far more expensive.

00:30:21.000 Yes, this is always the easy thing to say, right?

00:30:24.000 The cost of doing nothing, it turns out, until you reach about 2.5 degrees Celsius in global climate change?

00:30:31.000 Actually, the cost of doing nothing is less expensive.

00:30:34.000 William Nordhaus, the Nobel Prize winner in economics last year, has an entire book I've recommended on the show called Climate Casino.

00:30:40.000 He does not reject climate change.

00:30:42.000 He does not reject that the climate is changing.

00:30:44.000 And he actually believes in a carbon tax.

00:30:47.000 But even Nordhaus says, yeah, there actually is an economic tipping point at which it is not worth it to actually invest in stopping climate change below a certain point.

00:30:55.000 So Bernie Sanders is just full of it.

00:30:57.000 But again, it's about people's intentions in politics these days.

00:31:00.000 It's not About their actual, their actual activity.

00:31:04.000 This is how you, but here's what's hilarious about this.

00:31:07.000 The DNC recognizes that this is an argument for a very, like, that the worst thing they can do is pitch their climate change plans in public.

00:31:14.000 They're fine with pretending that they care deeply about these crazy climate change plans put out by AOC and Bernie Sanders.

00:31:20.000 They don't want to talk about it publicly.

00:31:21.000 How do we know this?

00:31:22.000 Because a committee within the DNC on Thursday voted down a proposal for a debate focused on climate change.

00:31:28.000 The DNC resolution voted against the measure, though a resolution calling for a climate change debate could still be considered for a vote by the full committee on Saturday.

00:31:36.000 The committee defeated the resolution in a 17 to 8 vote.

00:31:39.000 So remember that time that every Democrat said this is the greatest crisis in the history of humanity?

00:31:44.000 And then they're like, well, let's hold a debate on it.

00:31:45.000 They're like, nah, you know, because then we'll have to talk about how we want to get rid of everybody's car and kill their cows. 0.80

00:31:51.000 That's it. 0.75

00:31:52.000 It is.

00:31:52.000 It is hilarious.

00:31:54.000 Democrats love talking about problems.

00:31:56.000 And then if somebody proposes an actual solution to the problem, then they get mad at the solution.

00:32:00.000 They say the actual solution to the problem should be feelings.

00:32:02.000 Feelings!

00:32:03.000 Just change the language.

00:32:05.000 Make it so a convicted rapist is not a convicted felon, they're a justice-involved person.

00:32:09.000 Make it so that a homeless person sleeping on the street, you have sympathy for them, so much sympathy you're going to allow them to loiter in public and pee in the gutter.

00:32:16.000 And do drugs on the open streets and defecate.

00:32:19.000 That's sympathy right there. 0.98

00:32:20.000 And if you say you want to clean that up, you want to arrest people who are loitering, you want their garbage to be thrown away because it is in fact piles of garbage.

00:32:29.000 If you suggest that there have to be consequences, that the people who are who are mentally ill and living on the street need to be put in a place where they can be taken care of.

00:32:39.000 If, without their permission, if they are seriously mentally ill, because many of these people cannot actually make intelligent, rational decisions. 0.71

00:32:46.000 If you are a schizophrenic, I have schizophrenia. 0.67

00:32:48.000 My grandfather was schizophrenic. 0.96

00:32:50.000 And that is not somebody who's capable of making rational decisions.

00:32:53.000 If you say that, they're like, oh, you're unsympathetic.

00:32:55.000 Sympathy and crappy policy matter a lot more than sympathy and good policy, so long as you can castigate good policy as unsympathetic.

00:33:03.000 That apparently is the way all of this works.

00:33:05.000 Okay, in just a second, I want to get to the G7 because the United States is in fact involved in the G7.

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00:37:24.000 By the way, speaking of democratic proposals that demonstrate sympathy, Joe Biden wants to raise your taxes dramatically.

00:37:36.000 He wants the capital gains tax to be raised all the way back up to nearly 40%, which would basically double the capital gains tax.

00:37:42.000 You want to sink the stock market?

00:37:43.000 This seems like a pretty damn good way to do it.

00:37:44.000 One of the reasons the stock market has been doing so well is because if you make capital gains from your stocks, Those are taxed at a far lower rate than normal income.

00:37:53.000 Well now, Joe Biden wants to get rid of that differential.

00:37:56.000 Capital gains to get taxed just like regular income.

00:37:58.000 Get ready for the stock market to take a hit.

00:38:00.000 Well done, Joe Biden.

00:38:01.000 But at least he's sympathetic, guys.

00:38:02.000 At least he's sympathetic.

00:38:03.000 Okay.

00:38:03.000 Meanwhile, the Trump administration is prepared to head on over to the G7.

00:38:09.000 Now, one of the things I always find hilarious about these international conferences is this pretend nonsense where we're part of a family of nations.

00:38:17.000 Oh, a family of nations.

00:38:19.000 We're just like a family, guys!

00:38:21.000 Except for how we hate each other a lot of the time and disagree, and we have our own particular interests, and there is no actual common interest between some of the members of the G7.

00:38:30.000 So the G7, it used to be the G8, it used to include Russia, now it's the G7 plus one.

00:38:35.000 It's a group consisting of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the UK, and the United States.

00:38:40.000 And there are a lot of internal disagreements about how to handle world affairs in the G7.

00:38:45.000 Those disagreements extend on everything from how to handle global warming and climate change all the way over to the Iran deal where the United States has taken a very hard line and the Europeans wish to continue to appease the Iranians and the evil regime that takes precedence there. 0.99

00:39:01.000 According to the Washington Post, Karen DeYoung and Josh Dousey writing, like an annual holiday gatherer, That's the part that's unfair.

00:39:08.000 It's always about Trump blowing it up.

00:39:09.000 family explosion.

00:39:10.000 That's actually kind of fair.

00:39:11.000 One of France's main objectives as host of this weekend's G7 is to minimize the chances that President Trump will blow it up.

00:39:16.000 That's the part that's unfair.

00:39:18.000 It's always about Trump blowing it up. 0.99

00:39:19.000 It's never about the Europeans taking crap positions. 0.80

00:39:21.000 Subjects on which to tread lightly include some of the biggest problems the world's major economies are facing, including trade, the system of international rules that has ordered the democratic world for decades, and climate change, according to the U.S., and other G7 officials.

00:39:34.000 Now, when it comes to trade, the reality is the reason that trade agreements have been so effective for the past 30 years, 40 years, is not because everybody agrees that we're all friends.

00:39:44.000 It's specifically because when you lower your own trade barriers, you're helping your own country.

00:39:49.000 So the national interest is in you lowering your tariffs, even if other people are not lowering their tariffs as a general rule.

00:39:55.000 Already, President Trump, though, has shaken up the schedule, calling at the last minute for a special meeting to discuss the global economy.

00:40:01.000 Senior administration officials say he will contrast U.S.

00:40:04.000 growth with Europe's economic doldrums and press his pro-jobs and fairer trade messages.

00:40:09.000 Well, it is certainly true that the United States regulatory system, our tax system, in many ways is better than Europe's highly confiscatory system that generally penalizes the middle class at exorbitant rates.

00:40:21.000 When it comes to trade, the president is not actually correct in his general take that trade is a zero-sum game.

00:40:28.000 It is unclear, of course, how receptive the others will be to whatever thoughts Trump might offer as to how they should shift their own economic approaches.

00:40:34.000 Many world leaders are blaming Trump's trade war with China and his threats against Europe and Japan for a major contraction in investment and spending.

00:40:41.000 That, of course, is inaccurate.

00:40:42.000 Germany's economy has been contracting.

00:40:45.000 China's economy was contracting before the tariffs actually kicked in.

00:40:49.000 Trump's refusal to agree to a joint view of the climate threat and an agenda to confront it roiled the first two G7 meetings he attended in Italy in 27 and in Canada last year.

00:40:59.000 Well, that is because half of the countries involved in the G7 make commitments on climate change and then don't fulfill the commitments and then virtue signal about how much they're going to lower emissions while the United States has actually lowered emissions more than any other country since 2014.

00:41:14.000 France hopes to sidestep that issue.

00:41:16.000 There will be no final communique.

00:41:21.000 It's going to be a bleep show, obviously.

00:41:23.000 But that is because, frankly, the United States does not have a lot of the same interests as a lot of the European countries right now.

00:41:30.000 And with all of that said, the question becomes what President Trump is going to do to prop up an image of the economy going into 2020.

00:41:39.000 The Dow is down about 450 points at this point today.

00:41:41.000 President Trump has ordered U.S.

00:41:43.000 companies to look for an alternative to China. 0.78

00:41:45.000 He tweeted, our country has lost stupidly trillions of dollars with China over many years. 0.65

00:41:48.000 They've stolen our intellectual property at a rate of hundreds of billions of dollars a year. 0.91

00:41:52.000 They want to continue.

00:41:53.000 I won't let that happen.

00:41:54.000 We don't need China.

00:41:55.000 And frankly, we'd be far better off He says, our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies home and making your products in the United States.

00:42:08.000 First of all, that is not how law works, guys.

00:42:11.000 This is like Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy.

00:42:14.000 He sort of goes out in the middle of the office and he goes, I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!

00:42:20.000 You can't just declare on Twitter that American companies are immediately ordered to start looking for an alternative to China.

00:42:26.000 That's not what tariffs do. 0.86

00:42:27.000 Unless you're placing sanctions on China, like we have sanctions on Iran, that is not what this is.

00:42:34.000 With that said, China has unveiled new tariffs on Chinese goods.

00:42:37.000 China will implement new tariffs on another $75 billion worth of American goods, including autos.

00:42:42.000 Those tariffs will range between 5% and 10%.

00:42:44.000 Earlier in the day, stocks were teetering around flatline after Jerome Powell, the Fed chair, Delivered a speech from the annual Central Banking Symposium.

00:42:53.000 In it, he said the Fed would do what it can to sustain the current economic expansion.

00:42:56.000 He said our challenge now is to do what monetary policy can do to sustain the expansion, so that the benefits of the strong jobs market extend to more of those still left behind, and so that inflation is centered firmly around 2%.

00:43:08.000 He also said there's no rulebook for the US-China trade war.

00:43:12.000 He didn't really give an indication as to whether the rates will be cut again in September.

00:43:17.000 He says, after a decade of progress toward maximum employment and price stability, the economy is close to both goals, which does not suggest that the Fed is going to do a lot more in the near future.

00:43:27.000 Again, I'm not averse to an economic war with China, given that the Chinese are expanding their world power, given the fact that they use every dollar that they make in the world economy to pour into a fascistic communist regime that runs roughshod over the rights of its own citizens. 0.93

00:43:41.000 That it tries to expand its sphere of influence over the South China Sea, that builds military islands out of its holes in the South China Sea.

00:43:48.000 I mean, this is a dangerous geopolitical foe.

00:43:51.000 President Trump, I don't mind him saying that we need to make sacrifices in order to fight that foe, but he needs to give a national address on that, frankly.

00:43:59.000 He does.

00:43:59.000 He needs to make Democrats defend why they would instead enrich the Chinese government through mutual trade.

00:44:06.000 But he has to explain why the American people ought to take a hit on all of this.

00:44:09.000 If he doesn't explain that, then we've got these mixed messages that are not going to result in anything good for President Trump as time moves forward.

00:44:15.000 Okay, it is a Friday.

00:44:16.000 That means it's time for some mailbag.

00:44:17.000 Let's mailbag it up a little bit.

00:44:18.000 Ryan says, The Honorable Ben Shapiro.

00:44:21.000 When are you going to leave that hellhole and join us here in the great state of Texas, where your taxes get more than a traffic cone for much less?

00:44:27.000 But I digress.

00:44:28.000 Should Ancestry or DNA databanks be compelled to, or under their own will, comply with law enforcement?

00:44:32.000 What is the legal and or constitutional ramifications of these companies complying?

00:44:36.000 Well, it seems very dicey to compel DNA databanks or Ancestry sites to comply with federal law enforcement.

00:44:47.000 I mean, absent, you know, compelling search and seizure, usually that has to be directed against an actual suspect.

00:44:55.000 A blanket dictate that the government should have access to a DNA database?

00:44:59.000 That seems quite violative of the Fourth Amendment, which bans unreasonable search and seizure.

00:45:04.000 You didn't volunteer your information to the government, you volunteered it to a company with the basic understanding that the company was going to keep that in confidentiality.

00:45:12.000 So I'm really not into the idea of ancestry companies being forced by the federal government to turn over vast data banks.

00:45:18.000 Now, maybe that's a little bit different if you actually have a reasonable search and seizure.

00:45:21.000 Namely, they have a crime scene, they have a suspect, they want the DNA of that particular suspect.

00:45:28.000 The suspect is on the loose, for example.

00:45:30.000 Because normally you actually, there have been court cases on whether you can draw blood in a reasonable search and seizure in particular cases.

00:45:40.000 Garrett says, hey Ben, what in your view are our human rights?

00:45:43.000 Are they what's stated in our founding documents or is there more to it?

00:45:45.000 What's the counter argument to the thinking we have a human right to immigrate to any country we want?

00:45:49.000 Libertarians very often want open borders because they view it as a human right.

00:45:52.000 Thanks.

00:45:53.000 Well, human rights are the rights to life, liberty, and property, but those rights have to be guaranteed by the system.

00:45:59.000 They have to be guaranteed by the government.

00:46:02.000 If you are not a member of that system, then you don't have the right from that government.

00:46:07.000 You have a right generally, but rights have to be guaranteed.

00:46:09.000 The government is instituted to protect those rights.

00:46:12.000 So, it is not that anybody in the world has a right to enter the United States, particularly not if the United States is giving out welfare goodies, particularly if there are cultural changes that are inherent in you coming here and then voting.

00:46:27.000 Any country has the right to protect its own borders because if the country could not protect its own views of rights, then it would be very easy to see those rights overthrown by a change in the government.

00:46:37.000 So the founding fathers, when they said that there was inalienable rights, they did not mean that those rights were just out there in the universe and the government of the United States has the ability and the capability and the obligation to protect those for people around the world.

00:46:55.000 That is not how government works.

00:46:56.000 If that were the case, then the United States would have the moral authority to invade every country on earth and impose our view of natural rights, which I do not think that we have.

00:47:04.000 Ashley says, Hey Ben, to take a break from politics, can we gather around the campfire and hear the story of how the full Daily Wire team came together?

00:47:10.000 You, Knowles, Clavin, Elisha, and Walsh.

00:47:12.000 I'd love to know how you guys all got the band together.

00:47:14.000 Well, the first people to know each other here at the Daily Wire were me and my business partner, Jeremy Boring.

00:47:14.000 Thanks.

00:47:21.000 We were introduced by a guy that I used to work for who was in the talk radio industry.

00:47:24.000 At the time, he wanted to do movies, and Jeremy was the head of the not-so-secret secret underground Hollywood organization Friends of Abe, which was a bunch of conservatives in Hollywood.

00:47:32.000 So this guy was my boss at the time.

00:47:34.000 He said, well, Ben, you and Jeremy should talk about that.

00:47:37.000 Jeremy and I quickly became friends, and we started talking about business ventures together.

00:47:41.000 That was the sort of origin of our relationship.

00:47:45.000 We've been business partners for almost a decade.

00:47:45.000 So I've known Jeremy.

00:47:48.000 And then the next person in the group that I met was Elisha Krauss.

00:47:52.000 So Elisha and I were co-hosts.

00:47:54.000 So I knew Elisha a little bit when she was a producer for Sean Hannity.

00:47:57.000 And then she became a co-host on a morning show that I did here in Los Angeles called The Morning Answers.

00:48:02.000 Me and Elisha Krauss and Brian Whitman.

00:48:04.000 And we became close friends from that.

00:48:06.000 Then, Jeremy and I founded a company called Truth Revolt, and Elisha worked for us over there, and with us over there, and we also brought on Andrew Klavan at that time to do videos with us.

00:48:17.000 So, Klavan moved over and was doing some work at PJTV still, and he was doing work for us over at Truth Revolt, so that's how I got to know Andrew.

00:48:24.000 Knowles joined when we started Daily Wire.

00:48:27.000 He was there basically from inception, but he started off doing kind of social media for us, and he was doing some behind-the-scenes office work, and it turns out he was real crappy at that, so we gave him a show.

00:48:36.000 And then finally, Matt Walsh joined because we really enjoy Matt.

00:48:41.000 Matt's hilarious, and we hired him.

00:48:43.000 So that's how all the members of the band got together in terms of the out-front talent.

00:48:47.000 Now, the fact is that the company's a lot more than the out-front talent.

00:48:50.000 We're friends with a lot of the people we work with.

00:48:52.000 Thank God it's a really fun company to work for as much as I kid about it.

00:48:55.000 And the team that is behind the scenes is, I think, much more or just as important as the team that is out in front of the cameras.

00:49:01.000 And they have a much harder job because they don't get the credit for it, but they do an unbelievable job each and every day as much as I make fun of them.

00:49:09.000 Tate says, Dear Mr. Shapiro, every week it seems you are recommending a new book to read.

00:49:13.000 Thus, I was curious as to how many books you read a year.

00:49:14.000 What's the fastest you've read through a book?

00:49:16.000 Well, it depends on the length of the book, obviously.

00:49:19.000 Some books take a while.

00:49:19.000 So I'm reading this biography of Grant by Ron Chernow.

00:49:22.000 It's like a thousand pages.

00:49:23.000 That's probably going to take me a couple of weeks in my free time.

00:49:26.000 But the fact is that if I have time during the week, usually Shabbat is when I get my reading done.

00:49:32.000 Sabbath is when I get my reading done.

00:49:33.000 I'll usually read at least two books over the course of a Sabbath.

00:49:35.000 And then I usually read maybe one the rest of the week.

00:49:37.000 So two to three books I'm averaging, I think, over the course of a week.

00:49:41.000 But that really depends.

00:49:42.000 I mean, when I'm in the middle of writing a book, then I'm reading a lot for background.

00:49:46.000 And so I may end up reading five or six books in a week.

00:49:49.000 So I would say over the course of a year, I probably average somewhere in the neighborhood of 120 to 150 books.

00:49:55.000 Somewhere in there?

00:49:56.000 Now, that does not mean... And that's excluding some of the books that I just skim.

00:50:01.000 There are some books where you can read the intro and the conclusion and skim everything in the middle and you get the main argument of the book.

00:50:06.000 But I would say I'd read probably 100 books cover to cover and then I'd probably skim another 100 to 150 a year.

00:50:12.000 Something like that, probably.

00:50:14.000 Thanks for all you do.

00:50:15.000 I'd be happy to have on anybody.

00:50:16.000 I mean, we have on a wide variety of guests.

00:50:18.000 As far as biblical slavery.

00:50:18.000 So, the Bible does not mandate that people keep slaves.

00:50:20.000 how it differs or compares to slavery in America.

00:50:23.000 Also, I loved your conversation with Ravi Zacharias.

00:50:25.000 Are you gonna bring on Ray Comfort or Frank Turek in the future?

00:50:27.000 Thanks for all you do.

00:50:28.000 I'd be happy to have on anybody.

00:50:29.000 I mean, we have on a wide variety of guests.

00:50:31.000 As far as biblical slavery.

00:50:32.000 So the Bible does not mandate that people keep slaves.

00:50:36.000 And this is first of all.

00:50:37.000 Second of all, the Bible has historically been used Christians were some of the first people to outlaw slavery among fellow Christians.

00:50:45.000 Co-religionists were not allowed to be enslaved by Christianity early on in the development of the Christian Church.

00:50:50.000 Now, over time that was extended, obviously, to people who are not Christian.

00:50:55.000 And that's one of the great stories of humanity, is the development from enslaving of even your co-religionists to slavery being eliminated among intergroup rivals. 0.91

00:51:04.000 And because of the vast majority of human history, people have held slaves.

00:51:07.000 Slavery in the Bible is designed to restrict what slavery was.

00:51:12.000 Slavery in the Bible is a series of restrictions on how you can treat your slaves.

00:51:14.000 So, according to Talmudic Law, you have to feed your slave before you feed yourself. 0.65

00:51:18.000 According to Talmudic Law, according to Biblical Law, if somebody is an indentured servant for you, you have to give them their freedom at the end of seven years.

00:51:26.000 Maybe beforehand, depending on if it's the jubilee year.

00:51:29.000 And if somebody wants to stay because they already have a family with you, then you actually are supposed to hammer an awl through their earlobe to represent the fact that they are doing something wrong.

00:51:39.000 Because the idea is that they should be a free person subject only to God, not to another human being.

00:51:44.000 The treatment of slaves in the Bible is supposed to be a lot, lot, lot more humane than American slavery.

00:51:51.000 People were not supposed to be treated as property, they were supposed to be treated as fellow human beings who owed you a debt, basically.

00:51:56.000 Now, does that mean that it is right?

00:51:57.000 No.

00:51:57.000 But the Bible, and this is one of the problems with folks talking about the Bible who don't know what they're talking about, the Bible does two things.

00:52:03.000 One, it establishes eternal values, but two, it is also dealing with a specific set of people at a specific time.

00:52:09.000 It is talking to a specific group of people at a specific time and there are attempts to curb human nature in the Bible.

00:52:15.000 So at the time of the Bible, everyone held slaves.

00:52:17.000 So is the Bible attempting to make slavery broader or is it attempting to narrow slavery?

00:52:21.000 Is it attempting to make slavery more humane or is it attempting to make it less humane?

00:52:25.000 The Bible is obviously attempting to make it significantly more humane, significantly narrower.

00:52:30.000 The Bible is telling a group of people who held slaves and were not going to give them up That you need to move toward, eventually, abolition of slavery, which is how every abolitionist pretty much ever has read the Bible.

00:52:41.000 From William Wilberforce to Frederick Douglass, this is how abolitionists have read the Bible, and I think that is eminently correct. 1.00

00:52:47.000 So you have to understand that when you're trying to read the Bible just as a text, that the Bible is trying to accomplish two purposes.

00:52:52.000 To express universal human values about human relationships and good and evil.

00:52:58.000 And also that the Bible is trying to speak to a particular people at a particular time and wean them away from bad ideas.

00:53:03.000 This is what Maimonides says about sacrifice, for example.

00:53:07.000 That pagan peoples used to perform sacrifices, and the sacrifices were designed to propitiate the gods.

00:53:13.000 They were designed to feed, provide something to God that God couldn't get from you.

00:53:18.000 And Maimonides suggests that what biblical sacrifice was supposed to do is take that out of the realm of the pagan, and instead make it symbolic.

00:53:25.000 That you understand that really you owe your life to God, and that you have sinned, and really it should be you who's paying the price.

00:53:30.000 But instead, you need to feel that viscerally, and so you're forced to bring a sacrifice.

00:53:35.000 There's a lot of weaning in the Bible away from more primitive views and toward more developed, civilizational views.

00:53:41.000 Okay, well, you know what?

00:53:42.000 We don't have time for Things I Like or Things I Hate because we just went a little bit long today.

00:53:45.000 But we will be back here a little bit later today with two additional hours, or we'll see you here on Monday.

00:53:49.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:54:20.000 Hey everyone, it's Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show.

00:54:24.000 You know the saying, go woke, go broke?

00:54:27.000 Man, I hope that's true.

00:54:28.000 But America's top CEOs are now saying that businesses have to stop thinking about business so much and do some of that virtue stuff they've heard so much about.

00:54:37.000 We'll talk about it on The Andrew Klavan Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - August 23, 2019

Feelings Don’t Care About Your Facts | Ep. 846

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