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00:02:23.000People, yes, like Pete Buttigieg, who originally came out as a moderate and then Has sort of backtracked ever since, all the way to the point where he is now suggesting you're a bad Christian if you don't support his ideas on minimum wage.
00:02:34.000And so there is this radical wing of the party.
00:02:36.000Then, there is the moderate wing of the party.
00:02:38.000And actually last night on the stage, the moderates outnumbered the radicals.
00:02:44.000Folks like Amy Klobuchar and Tim Ryan from Ohio and John Delaney, who actually showed pretty well, former congressperson, and Steve Bullock from Montana.
00:02:52.000And what these divisions between the radicals and the sane showed is that when asked very simple questions, the radicals simply could not defend their policies.
00:03:01.000They're running far to the left on the idea of grand visions, grandiose plans for the future.
00:03:06.000And the moderates are sitting over there going, guys, you're going to lose, right?
00:03:11.000You pushing too hard means that it will be a referendum on our policy.
00:03:14.000It won't be a referendum on President Trump anymore.
00:03:16.000So they're trying to grip the coattails of these radical Democrats and try to haul them back over the edge of the cliff.
00:03:23.000And while it was pretty obvious that the radicals had no answers, it obviously wasn't working in the hall because the applause lines were all for the radicals in the hall, which makes sense.
00:03:32.000But all of these clips are going to live on forever.
00:03:34.000This is why Rahm Emanuel, former congressperson, former chief of staff for Barack Obama, was saying openly yesterday that the Democrats are busy alienating an enormous percentage of the population with their prescriptions.
00:03:45.000Now, the person who came away with the big win last night was the person who channeled the spirit of radicalism without actually any of the policy.
00:03:52.000See, what we last night exposed, more than anything else, is that folks who are very into the radicalism of the Democratic Party, very into the radical left, Medicare for all, no first use of nuclear weapons, people who want to decriminalize illegal immigration.
00:04:08.000What this showed, this debate last night, is that it's not that those policies are inherently popular or inherently wonderful.
00:04:13.000People aren't resonating to the policies.
00:04:15.000They're resonating to the notion put forward by the radicals that a change in policy will occasion a change in the spirit of man.
00:04:23.000Barack Obama's appeal in 2008 was not a policy appeal.
00:04:26.000He did not campaign on policy for five minutes of that entire campaign.
00:04:30.000The reason that Barack Obama was very popular is because he campaigned on two things.
00:04:34.000One, that he was going to be a unifying figure in the wake of the Bush administration and not only was he going to be a unifying figure, he was going to be a unifying racial figure, meaning that the greatest Drama and and cruelty in American history was going to be rectified by President Obama, who is going to bring all the parties back to the table.
00:04:51.000He's going to bring everybody together.
00:04:52.000We could resonate around the idea of a black president who signified the progress that America had made.
00:04:57.000And then all Americans would be treated as Americans rather than as members of subgroups.
00:05:20.000It was a religious appeal, an overtly religious appeal.
00:05:23.000And that was appealing to a lot of folks on the left because the real vision of Marxism and most American leftism is tied to the ideas of Karl Marx is what distinguishes American leftism from
00:05:34.000Normal sort of moderate policy or conservatism the roots of leftism lie in a materialist definition of reality in which true troubles in all of America's in all American walks can be boiled down largely to the inequalities produced by capitalism and by free markets and by property ownership If you read Marx, one of the things that Marx says, pretty obviously in the Communist Manifesto, is he talks about the idea that Marxism will transform man.
00:06:02.000That man is malleable, and that Marxism will make man different.
00:06:04.000That the reason man is bad is because man has been shaped by his socio-political environment in order to be bad.
00:06:10.000That capitalism, free markets, property ownership, these have made man lesser.
00:06:15.000And that in the future, inevitably, man will become greater as he lets go of these things.
00:06:21.000And that's an overtly spiritual appeal.
00:06:24.000Marianne Williamson, last night on the stage, was making religious appeals.
00:06:27.000And those religious appeals are more in line with today's politics than the sort of technocratic politics that dominated America from basically the Eisenhower administration all the way through the George W. Bush administration.
00:06:39.000The spiritual appeal is what got Barack Obama elected in 2008.
00:06:42.000And it's the spiritual appeal that got Donald Trump elected in 2016.
00:06:46.000Donald Trump didn't make a policy appeal at any point.
00:06:49.000No point in 2016 did Donald Trump really talk about policy.
00:06:53.000Instead, he talked about the quote-unquote spirit of America, making America great again, quote-unquote restoring the American soul, right?
00:07:02.000And what he meant by restoring the American soul, unlike the vast majority of people in the media who lie and say that it was all about white response to Barack Obama and all of this, when he said that he wanted to make America great again, that was a spiritual appeal.
00:07:15.000What he meant was he wants an America that was rooted in fundamental ideals of unity, where we were all firing our guns in the same direction.
00:07:23.000Now, he wasn't clear about what the direction would be.
00:07:25.000He was very vague about that, which was my main criticism of him, and one of many, in 2016.
00:07:47.000But there is something she was doing last night that operated on a different level than the other Democratic candidates.
00:07:52.000This doesn't mean she's going to win the nomination.
00:07:54.000It does mean that whichever Democrat channels the zeitgeist that Marianne Williamson is attempting to channel is going to win the nomination and maybe the presidency.
00:08:03.000Because what she was doing last night was not talking about the wonders of Medicare for All.
00:08:07.000What she was doing last night instead was talking about changing the American soul.
00:08:12.000And in a debate where the moderates were basically kicking around the radicals on policy, she's the only one who rose above it.
00:08:18.000So she was saying the same sort of stuff.
00:08:20.000I mean, she did an interview last night where she was specifically asked, what kind of Democrat was she?
00:08:25.000She was asked this by Anderson Cooper, what kind of Democrat are you?
00:08:28.000And Marianne Williamson is charmingly kooky.
00:08:32.000I mean, even obviously Anderson Cooper is very much charmed by her.
00:08:37.000And she's inherently hilarious because she's charmingly kooky.
00:08:41.000But she says in the middle of this interview, in the one substantive point, that she is a Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren Democrat.
00:08:46.000But that's not what came across last night.
00:08:48.000Because again, she wasn't speaking at the level of politics.
00:08:50.000She was speaking at the level of dark forces and American spirits and all the rest of this.
00:08:54.000Here's where she identifies politically and also why she's kind of charming.
00:08:58.000I just find it really interesting, this notion that a plan is not enough, and who else, does anybody else that you have seen of all twenty... Why do you need anybody else?
00:09:17.000There is no one else like you on that stage that I can... I don't take positions, but I can tell you that is a position I will stand by.
00:09:24.000Yeah, well, you got me, so... So she's charmingly kooky, but then she finished that by saying she's an Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders Democrat, meaning she agrees with him on policy.
00:09:34.000But that's not what came across last night, because that's not the level upon which she was campaigning.
00:09:37.000OK, so now let's get into the details of this debate.
00:09:40.000First of all, you want to talk about how radical the Democrats are?
00:09:44.000So Tom Perez is the head of the Democratic National Committee.
00:09:47.000He was made that while Barack Obama was still president.
00:09:49.000He was the former head of the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ under Barack Obama, where he was extraordinarily radical himself.
00:09:57.000I know folks who served in the DOJ at that time in the civil rights division.
00:10:01.000And it was fairly obvious that Tom Perez was orienting that division in one particular way toward targeting one particular sort of discrimination while ignoring other forms of discrimination.
00:10:10.000In any case, Tom Perez leads off this thing.
00:10:12.000He's trying to get the crowd all revved up and he starts talking about global warming.
00:10:16.000And then he gets into universe warming, which is not a thing because global warming is reliant on carbon emissions on Earth that create thickening of certain chemical levels in the atmosphere of the Earth.
00:11:15.000That is the only body capable of warming the universe.
00:11:20.000If we were just talking about the sun heating up, it would be a very different question than the emissions that are coming out of your cow's butt.
00:11:26.000We'll get to the actual debate in just one second, but that was the setup.
00:11:30.000The payoff was Democrats cheering for everything radical.
00:11:33.000Well, logically, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders were absolutely exposed by the moderates on the stage last night.
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00:12:54.000So everybody sort of gave their opening statements and their opening statements made fairly clear where exactly they are on the spectrum.
00:13:01.000Elizabeth Warren is vying for the progressive wing of the Democratic Party against Bernie Sanders.
00:13:06.000Now, what was weird about this debate last night is you would have expected at some point Warren to go after Sanders or Sanders to go after Warren.
00:13:13.000Instead, they seemed sort of content to leave each other alone and go after the moderates.
00:13:17.000That's not going to help either of them because this is Highlander.
00:13:55.000So here's Elizabeth Warren making the pitch that the way that the Democrats win the White House is with big ideas, which of course is idiocy, by polling data.
00:14:03.000The way the Democrats win the White House is by standing there and pointing at President Trump.
00:15:19.000And for Democrats to win, you can't be afraid either.
00:15:23.000Boy, is she a low-rent Hillary Clinton.
00:15:24.000I mean, my goodness, she is rehearsed and she is canned, but I love that her answer to, is the reason that you're saying that you're a capitalist because you don't want to be Bernie Sanders.
00:15:49.000John Delaney, who's an actual business person, was asked about the wealth tax and before he starts to answer, you know, Don Lemon, who is just, as we will see, the worst Democrat debate facilitator ever.
00:16:04.000He's just terrible because he should be on the stage.
00:16:06.000If he actually wants to run, he should just run.
00:16:10.000Elizabeth Warren literally stood there and took her hands and started doing this with her hands in eagerness at taking John Delaney's money.
00:16:22.000Your estimated net worth is more than $65 $5 million.
00:16:27.000That would make you subject to Senator Warren's proposed wealth tax on the assets of the richest 75,000 homes, households or so in the United States.
00:16:35.000What in the hell is wrong with this person?
00:17:03.000That's Elizabeth Warren in a nutshell.
00:17:05.000And by the way, if you think that Republicans won't cut that and say, this is Elizabeth Warren on your money, you are wrong.
00:17:11.000I would cut that ad tomorrow because that is Elizabeth Warren on your money.
00:17:14.000As we will see, by the way, with regard to Elizabeth Warren, she has no answers when it comes to how she's going to pay for any of her programs.
00:17:20.000And she won't even tell the truth about the fact that her programs are going to cost the middle class an awful lot of money.
00:17:24.000Okay, so that was Elizabeth Warren's pitch.
00:17:52.000We have got to take on Trump's racism, his sexism, xenophobia, and come together in an unprecedented, unprecedented grassroots movement to not only defeat Trump, but to transform our economy and our government.
00:18:08.000He is one continuous Howard Dean scream.
00:18:45.000Science tells us we have 12 years before we reach the horizon of catastrophe when it comes to our climate.
00:18:51.000By 2030, the average house in this country will cost half a million bucks, and a woman's right to choose may not even exist.
00:19:00.000We're not going to be able to meet this moment by recycling the same arguments, policies, and politicians that have dominated Washington for as long as I have been alive.
00:19:10.000Okay, so again, it's going to be, I'm young, and I'm radical, and I'm here.
00:19:14.000Okay, so that was the radical wing of the Democratic Party last night.
00:19:17.000Then you got to the reasonable people.
00:19:18.000And when I say reasonable, I don't mean Republican, I just mean people who are not totally crazy.
00:19:21.000Okay, Amy Klobuchar gets up there, and she says, listen, a lot of people are going to promise you stuff, but we have to live in reality, and I can win.
00:19:32.000You're going to hear a lot of promises up here, but I'm going to tell you this.
00:19:36.000Yes, I have bold ideas, but they are grounded in reality.
00:19:40.000And yes, I will make some simple promises.
00:20:15.000Yet, watching that last debate, folks seem more concerned about scoring points or outdoing each other with wish-list economics than making sure Americans know we hear their voices and we'll help their lives.
00:20:30.000This, of course, is exactly right if they actually wanted to win.
00:20:33.000John Delaney, who had a good night last night, former congressperson, he said the same thing.
00:20:37.000He said, we can go down the Sanders and Warren route and then we'll lose.
00:20:44.000We can go down the road that Senator Sanders and Senator Warren want to take us, with bad policies like Medicare for All, Free Everything, and impossible promises that'll turn off independent voters and get Trump re-elected.
00:20:59.000That's what happened with McGovern, that's what happened with Mondale, that's what happened with Dukakis.
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00:22:18.000Okay, so the other Democratic candidate on the stage who is somewhat moderate is John Hickenlooper, the governor of Colorado.
00:22:26.000And he comes out, the former governor of Colorado, he comes out and he says, listen, your policies are not going to win you any seats.
00:22:33.000All the people who won seats in last year's elections, those people are running on my policies, not your policies.
00:22:39.000Last year, Democrats flipped 40 Republican seats in the House, and not one of those 40 Democrats supported the policies of our frontrunners at center stage.
00:22:53.000OK, so again, stage breaks down into radicals versus moderates and then Marianne Williamson, who's just out there.
00:22:59.000And Marianne Williamson, again, is making the same pitch as Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, but she's making an actually more honest pitch, which is, if you do what I want, we're going to transform the spirit of America.
00:23:13.000I think it's ugly in politics when political leaders do this routine.
00:23:16.000I don't like it when Trump did it, I don't like it when Obama did it.
00:23:18.000I don't think political leaders are there to be our spiritual mentors or guides.
00:23:21.000I do not think that political leaders are there to transform our spirits.
00:23:24.000I think that political leaders are there to do the things they promise they are going to do, and ideally, to uphold the rights that are established in the Constitution of the United States.
00:23:32.000But unfortunately, I am in the minority on this.
00:23:34.000Most people in the United States want a leader who is going to channel them.
00:23:37.000They want the Wilsonian big man who is going to channel their spirit.
00:23:41.000And Marianne Williamson does that better than anybody else on the stage last night.
00:23:47.000In 1776, our founders brought forth on this planet an extraordinary new possibility.
00:23:53.000It was the idea that people, no matter who they were, would simply have the possibility of thriving.
00:23:59.000And now it is time for a generation of Americans to rise up again.
00:24:04.000For an amoral economic system has turned short-term profits for huge multinational corporations into a false god.
00:24:13.000And this new false god takes precedence over the safety and the health and the well-being of we, the American people, and the people of the world, and the planet on which we live.
00:24:23.000Okay, so again, she's using keywords in sort of the spiritualist push, and she's talking about thriving, which is a favorite word of a lot of sort of secular humanists.
00:24:32.000She is talking about an amoral economic system.
00:24:36.000Not an immoral, like an amoral economic, we need a morality.
00:24:39.000She's talking about multinational corporations as false gods.
00:24:42.000This is all deeply spiritual language and it's going to a level of the iceberg that the other Democrats are not going to.
00:24:48.000The other Democrats are talking about policy here on the top of the iceberg.
00:24:50.000Marianne Williamson is going beneath the surface of the iceberg.
00:24:53.000Now again, does that mean she wins the nomination?
00:24:55.000It means that she is channeling something in the Democratic Party right now and in the American political system more broadly that goes deeper than the political debate.
00:25:04.000So I know we're not supposed to take her seriously, but she's going to have a moment.
00:25:10.000And now in a second, I want to get to the actual battles that happened, because as we'll see, the reason Marianne Williamson sort of flies over the top in this debate is because Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders on any objective level got brought back down to earth last night on their policy.
00:25:24.000So there was a lot of talk about health care last night.
00:25:27.000Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders both pushing Medicare for all, both lying about it.
00:25:31.000So Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren keep making the same case, which is, sure, we're going to raise your taxes, although Elizabeth Warren lies about it and says she won't.
00:25:38.000They both say, sure, we're going to raise your taxes, but in the end, you're going to pay less for health care, which, of course, is not really true in the sense that out of pocket, you will be paying more for health care because you're paying from your tax dollars, whereas right now, for the vast majority of Americans, their employer is paying for their health care.
00:25:55.000The employer is not going to lower your salary based on your healthcare benefits.
00:25:59.000Your healthcare benefits will just go away, and then you will pay out of your own pocket for healthcare, which means in your pocket will be less money for the vast majority of Americans.
00:27:16.000And then Delaney went on on healthcare and he is correct, exactly correct, calling her out for what this plan is.
00:27:22.000I've been going around rural America, and I ask rural hospital administrators one question.
00:27:27.000If all your bills were paid at the Medicare rate last year, what would happen?
00:27:32.000And they all look at me and say, we would close.
00:27:35.000But the question is, why do we have to be so extreme?
00:27:38.000Why can't we just give everyone healthcare as a right, and allow them to have choice?
00:27:42.000I'm starting to think this is not about healthcare.
00:27:44.000This is an anti-private sector strategy.
00:27:48.000Okay, so, again, then Dana Bash jumps in, we have to let it go.
00:27:52.000But what he's saying there is of course exactly right.
00:27:54.000If you say Medicare for all, and then you pay everything back at the reimbursement rate of Medicare, hospitals will shut down.
00:27:59.000That's just the reality of the situation.
00:28:00.000Doctors will stop taking Medicare as long as there is a private alternative.
00:28:04.000Which is why people like Elizabeth Warren are suggesting that you gotta ban the private alternative.
00:28:08.000And then Warren had to lie about the cost of Medicare.
00:28:10.000So here is Jake Tapper grilling her on this.
00:28:12.000Senator, just a point of clarification, in 15 extra seconds, would you raise taxes on the middle class to pay for Medicare for all, offset obviously by the elimination of insurance premiums, yes or no?
00:28:23.000Costs will go up for billionaires and go up for corporations.
00:28:28.000For middle class families, costs, total costs will go down.
00:28:32.000Okay, for middle class family, total costs will go down.
00:28:36.000By what metric will total costs go down?
00:28:39.000Costs to your employer or costs out of your pocketbook?
00:28:41.000Because those are not quite the same thing.
00:28:44.000Remember, your employer is paying for those benefits.
00:28:46.000And then Bernie Sanders got the same treatment from Tim Ryan and John Delaney.
00:28:50.000So Jake Tapper asks Bernie Sanders, he says, I understand it would provide universal coverage, but can you guarantee union members that the benefits of Medicare for all will be as good as the benefits that their union reps fought hard to negotiate?
00:29:03.000Now Sanders starts to answer this question, and then Ryan jumps in, and then Sanders gets mad.
00:29:08.000And it's Sanders' anger that has made him popular.
00:29:31.000I understand that it would provide universal coverage, but can you guarantee those union members that the benefits under Medicare for All will be as good as the benefits that their representatives, their union reps, fought hard to negotiate?
00:30:03.000Well no, what you don't know is that Medicare is going to guarantee the same level of coverage as Cadillac medical plans that unions have negotiated.
00:30:10.000In fact, I can guarantee you they won't.
00:30:26.000So as I say, this contrast between radical left and moderate, it goes well for the crowd in the room, but for the rest of the election, it's not going to go well for Democrats because it won't just be Democrats in the room at that point.
00:30:38.000Now, again, Marianne Williamson makes a different pitch.
00:30:40.000Marianne Williamson gets up and she says about health care, I'm not going to talk about Medicare for all or not Medicare for all.
00:30:46.000Instead, we're just going to talk about big ideas, big ideas.
00:30:52.000Everything that we're talking about here tonight is what's wrong with American politics.
00:30:56.000And the Democratic Party needs to understand that we should be the party that talks not just about symptoms, but also about causes.
00:31:02.000When we're talking about health care, we need to talk about more than just the health care plan.
00:31:06.000We need to realize we have a sickness care rather than a health care system.
00:31:10.000We need to be the party talking about why so many of our chemical policies and our food policies and our agricultural policies and our environmental policies and even our economic policies are leading to people getting sick to begin with.
00:31:22.000And again, she is doing something that is different than all the other Democrats.
00:31:25.000The reason I keep bringing up Williamson is not just me.
00:31:27.000I'm not just standing for Marianne here.
00:31:29.000The reason that I'm talking about Williamson is because she was the number one searched, googled person in the debate last night in every single state except Montana.
00:31:37.000In Montana, the number one search was their governor, Steve Bullock.
00:31:41.000They were trying to google whether he was in fact their governor.
00:31:45.000Yeah, but the fact is that Marianne Williamson was doing something different than everyone else on the stage last night.
00:31:50.000As we will see, this was a race between radicals for the left, moderates trying to hold them back, and Marianne Williamson just going right over the top.
00:31:59.000It was really kind of fascinating on a base political level.
00:32:03.000We'll get to more of that in just one second.
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00:33:36.000So Democrats racing for the left on immigration.
00:33:47.000Elizabeth Warren repeated her nonsense about decriminalizing border crossings, which, of course, would only incentivize people to cross the border illegally between points of entry.
00:33:55.000Instead of waiting to be processed at a point of entry, at which point you're going to be presumably detained, and then family separations take place, instead you try to cross at a non-port of entry, and then just enter the country illegally, and you wait for amnesty.
00:34:09.000You want to encourage people to cross that Rio Grande illegally in significantly more dangerous conditions than they would get at a port of entry?
00:34:15.000Do exactly what Elizabeth Warren is talking about right here.
00:34:18.000So the problem is that right now the criminalization statute is what gives Donald Trump the ability to take children away from their parents.
00:34:29.000It's what gives him the ability to lock up people at our borders.
00:34:36.000And then Bernie, this was really funny.
00:34:38.000Bernie Sanders is actually harsher on the border than Warren.
00:34:41.000So this would be an area where you would expect Warren and Sanders to go at one another a little bit, but it never happened.
00:34:45.000Warren and Sanders formed a weird team up instead of actually going at one another, which was kind of fascinating, frankly.
00:34:51.000So Bernie Sanders was asked about the fact that soft border policies create an incentive for people to cross and get benefits, especially since both Warren, I believe, and certainly Sanders have talked about giving free medical care for illegal immigrants.
00:35:05.000Sanders says, oh, no, no, no, we're going to be tough on the border, which is kind of interesting.
00:35:09.000Senator Sanders, you want to provide undocumented immigrants free health care and free college.
00:35:15.000Why won't this drive even more people to come to the U.S.
00:36:13.000But that's not where the heart and soul of the Democratic Party is right now.
00:36:16.000The heart and soul are with Marianne Williamson, but the political corollary of that is that it's really with Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.
00:36:25.000And that leads to this weird situation where everybody on stage last night who was proposing anything that was reasonable was basically booed off the stage and treated as an apostate.
00:36:37.000So John Delaney makes a proposal on global warming and climate change that is actually fairly bipartisan.
00:36:44.000There are some Republicans who support this.
00:36:45.000I'm still considering whether it's worthwhile or not, whether it would be effective or not.
00:36:49.000But John Delaney says, listen, here's what we should do.
00:36:51.000We should put a price on carbon and then we should have what's called the carbon dividend.
00:36:55.000There are a few Republicans who are on board with this.
00:36:56.000As I say, I'm not on board with this yet.
00:36:58.000The carbon dividend is basically the idea that you're going to tax carbon and then you're going to redistribute the money from the use of carbon to other projects inside the United States.
00:37:08.000The reason I'm not on board with it is because I am not sure that China and India are going to sign off on anything similarly and then you have a serious collective action problem in which we are harming our economy specifically so that we cannot actually lower global warming if that's something we're worried about.
00:37:21.000In any case, here is John Delaney making a pitch that is actually somewhat reasonable and then we will hear Elizabeth Worm's completely unreasonable pitch.
00:37:27.000My plan, which gets us to net zero by 2050, which we absolutely have to do for our kids and our grandkids, will get us there.
00:37:35.000I put a price on carbon, take all the money, give it back to the American people in a dividend.
00:37:40.000That was introduced by me on a bipartisan basis.
00:37:43.000It's the only significant bipartisan climate bill in the Congress.
00:37:47.000Okay, so that is, again, John Delaney being somewhat reasonable.
00:37:51.000Then we get to Elizabeth Warren, and she says, I'm just gonna dump money on it.
00:37:54.000I'm just gonna take a dump truck full of money and pour it on global warming.
00:37:57.000So I propose putting $2 trillion in so we do the research.
00:38:02.000We then say anyone in the world can use it so long as you build it right here in America.
00:38:08.000That will produce about 1.2 million manufacturing jobs right here in Michigan, right here in Ohio, right here in the industry in the U.S.
00:38:52.000It's about the level of enthusiasm that you have.
00:38:54.000Well, the Democratic Party is choosing between skill, policies that work, policies that at least should be considered, and just rank enthusiasm.
00:39:02.000And you can see that rank enthusiasm is winning.
00:39:04.000That's why Bernie Sanders is still pulling up around 20% right now, although this did lead to the funniest exchange of the evening, in which Tim Ryan got irritated at the old man screaming at the clouds and also at him.
00:39:41.000I mean, all I'm saying is, And everybody laughs because they know it's true.
00:39:46.000Old man screaming in clouds, winning elections.
00:39:49.000Then finally, the Democrats, it's amazing.
00:39:52.000They did this entire debate in Detroit.
00:39:53.000They waited until the end to get to questions of race.
00:39:55.000And then it just turned into a pander fest about slavery, reparations, and the legacy of racism in the United States.
00:39:59.000Listen, we can talk about the legacy of racism in the United States.
00:40:02.000If we want to do a data-driven drive into what level of current endemic poverty is based on historic racism in Jim Crow, and what level is based on individual actions that keep people in intergenerational poverty, single motherhood, lack of education, criminal activity, and all the rest.
00:40:19.000And you can say that those things are outgrowths of past systems of discrimination.
00:41:10.000As an urban mayor serving a diverse community, the racial divide lives within me.
00:41:17.000I don't know what the hell that means.
00:41:19.000Then Elizabeth Warren jumps in, and she, of course, is going to go as radical as she can because she's going to out-enthusiasm everybody.
00:41:27.000We need to call out white supremacy for what it is, domestic terrorism.
00:41:32.000And it poses a threat to the United States of America.
00:41:36.000We live in a country now where the president is advancing environmental racism, economic racism, criminal justice racism, health care racism.
00:41:46.000The way we do better is to fight back and show something better.
00:41:51.000So, I have a plan, for example, on education.
00:41:54.000Okay, what in the... Okay, so it's environmental racism, this kind of racism, and that kind of... Okay, then Marianne Williamson steps in.
00:42:02.000And Marianne Williamson actually makes a pitch that, again, is spiritual in nature, and thus, when it comes to issues of race, is actually more attractive.
00:42:09.000Here's Marianne Williamson putting the slavery reparations question in a way that actually sounds more reasonable than the way Democrats are talking about it.
00:42:17.000I assure you, I lived in Grosse Pointe.
00:42:19.000What happened in Flint would not have happened in Grosse Pointe.
00:42:22.000This is part of the dark underbelly of American society.
00:42:26.000The racism, the bigotry, and the entire conversation that we're having here tonight.
00:42:30.000If you think any of this wonkiness is going to deal with this dark psychic force of the collectivized hatred that this president is bringing up in this country, then I'm afraid that the Democrats are going to see some very dark days.
00:43:02.000But what she's actually saying there is more speaking to the heart and soul of the Democratic Party than anything that Elizabeth Warren just said.
00:43:09.000Elizabeth Warren is substituting policy for spirit.
00:43:12.000And Marianne Williamson is substituting spirit for policy.
00:43:15.000And if Democrats have to choose, I have a feeling that Marianne Williamson, whoever channels that spirit best, is going to do some damage in these Democratic primaries.
00:43:46.000And then here she was more unraced and a better pitch than Elizabeth Warren.
00:43:52.000We need some deep truth-telling when it comes.
00:43:54.000We don't need another commission to look at evidence.
00:43:57.000I appreciate what Congressman O'Rourke has said.
00:44:00.000It is time for us to simply realize that this country will not heal.
00:44:04.000All that a country is is a collection of people.
00:44:06.000People heal when there's some deep truth-telling.
00:44:09.000We need to recognize that when it comes to the economic gap between blacks and whites in America, it does come from a great injustice that has never been dealt with.
00:44:18.000That great injustice has had to be Okay, again, she's talking in a way and at a level that other Democrats are not.
00:44:24.000This is not just me saying that Marianne Williamson is the best and I think that she should be the dictatress of the universe or anything.
00:44:31.000Really what I'm saying about Marianne Williamson.
00:44:34.000Obviously, is that she is doing something that I think that the rest of the Democratic Party is missing.
00:44:38.000And what the rest of the Democratic Party is missing is that their appeal right now is a spiritual appeal.
00:45:33.000And the only way you can override them is with new voices.
00:45:35.000Voices of energy that only come from the fact that America has been willing to live up to our own mistakes, atone for our own mistakes, make amends for our own mistakes, love each other, love our democracy, love future generations.
00:45:49.000Something emotional and psychological that will not Be, be, be emerging from anything on this stage.
00:45:56.000It will emerge from something I'm the one who's qualified to bring forth.
00:47:36.000Again, I'm not saying Marianne Williamson wins the nomination.
00:47:43.000I'm saying that if Democrats keep playing this game where they think that radicalism for radicalism's own sake is going to be the victorious notion, they're actually missing the appeal of their own appeal, which is a religious appeal in nature.
00:47:57.000I'm not sure there's any Democrat who really understands this, and that's why I think that they're having a real rough time with Trump, who makes a spiritual appeal to Americans.
00:48:03.000You may not like his spiritual appeal.
00:48:05.000I don't like parts of his spiritual appeal.
00:48:06.000I think that spiritual appeals in politics, as I said before, are stupid and wrong, generally.
00:48:11.000But, I also think that Williamson is doing something no other Democrat is doing, and if they can't capture what she's doing, they're gonna lose.
00:50:13.000Now to their credit, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash did introduce what the Democrat candidates called conservative talking points and what the rest of us call reality.
00:50:21.000But there was a much bigger talking point that went unspoken all through the debate.