The Ben Shapiro Show - Fight Night: Round 2 | Ep. 811

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00:00:02.000 We recap the second night of the Democratic debates.

00:00:05.000 The thrills, the chills, and the spills.

00:00:08.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:08.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:09.000 Wow, so that was a mess.

00:00:17.000 I mean, that's really the big takeaway from the second debate.

00:00:20.000 The first night seemed to have at least something like an order.

00:00:24.000 Last night's debate was just a giant mess.

00:00:27.000 Now, that doesn't mean we didn't learn some useful things about each of the candidates, and we're going to go through all of that in turn.

00:00:31.000 But what we learned about the Democratic Party overall is that a lot of people want to be president.

00:00:36.000 A lot of people are going to yell about it.

00:00:38.000 And all those people are radically to the left.

00:00:40.000 And this is a party that has moved so far to the left, it is nearly unrecognizable when compared even with Barack Obama's 2008 platform.

00:00:47.000 This is a party that has moved dramatically to the left, so far to the left, that Joe Biden is now seen as anachronistic.

00:00:54.000 So far to the left that anybody who proclaims that, for example, it ought to remain illegal to cross the border illegally, those people are now in the minority of the Democratic Party.

00:01:04.000 This party has moved so far to the left that the entire Democratic Party last night, every single candidate on stage, suggested that American taxpayers should foot the bill for the health care of illegal immigrants.

00:01:14.000 So combine those two factors, basically open borders and health care for everybody.

00:01:18.000 And what that means is that we are going to get to pay everybody's health care who wants to get in and can cross that border illegally.

00:01:23.000 I mean, this is radical, radical stuff.

00:01:26.000 But that's not what these debates are really about.

00:01:29.000 In broad scope, that's what they're about.

00:01:31.000 Because in the end, that will have an impact on how Americans tend to think about these debates.

00:01:37.000 About the parties, about 2020 going forward.

00:01:39.000 Half of the debate last night will be used in attack ads by President Trump against any Democrat.

00:01:44.000 So if you thought that night one was sort of an anomaly, if you thought that night one where Democrats basically out-pledged one another to give free money to people was sort of an outlier, that is not true.

00:01:58.000 The heart and soul of the Democratic Party is to the far left.

00:02:01.000 And they are looking, I guess, for those extra three votes in Los Angeles and New York, and they think somehow this is going to help them win an election where they really need Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

00:02:10.000 I didn't hear anything last night that focused on folks in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, any of those areas.

00:02:16.000 This was all focused on the progressive base in places like Iowa, in places like New Hampshire, And so that's really what it was.

00:02:26.000 That's not going to bode well for the Democratic Party over time.

00:02:28.000 They simply think that Donald Trump is so wildly unpopular that they can say whatever crazy thing they want to say and that won't become the issue.

00:02:34.000 I am far more skeptical than that.

00:02:37.000 I think that the 2020 election is going to be about whom are we talking about?

00:02:41.000 Are we talking about Trump?

00:02:43.000 Is Trump still the center of attention, or is it whatever kooky Democrat is out there proclaiming to the skies that they are going to rewrite the American compact and tear down the American Constitution? 0.94

00:02:54.000 Because all Democrats had to do was not be crazy. 0.80

00:02:57.000 That's all they had to do.

00:02:58.000 They did not show it last night.

00:02:59.000 Okay, so let's jump into the debate. 0.68

00:03:01.000 The big loser of the night was Bernie Sanders.

00:03:04.000 I know, this is controversial. 0.99

00:03:05.000 A lot of folks think that Bernie Sanders is not the big loser. 0.97

00:03:08.000 And the big loser was Joe Biden.

00:03:09.000 We'll get to Biden, don't worry. 0.99

00:03:10.000 But to me, the big loser was Bernie Sanders. 0.92

00:03:12.000 Why?

00:03:13.000 Well, because in the first night of the Democratic debates, Elizabeth Warren failed to shine. 1.00

00:03:17.000 She wasn't terrible.

00:03:18.000 She just wasn't anything special.

00:03:20.000 She sort of faded second half of the debate.

00:03:22.000 She was pretty boring. 1.00

00:03:23.000 She didn't break out from the pack.

00:03:24.000 And that pack, I mean, those are ankle biters. 0.88

00:03:27.000 I mean, the rest of that pack are Lilliputians. 0.98

00:03:29.000 And Warren didn't break out.

00:03:30.000 So that meant that Bernie had a chance to seize back control of the progressive narrative.

00:03:35.000 The problem is that because Bernie has never thought through any of his ideas, he ended up just yelling at the clouds.

00:03:42.000 I mean, he was like Homer Simpson's father.

00:03:43.000 He was just running around Springfield Yelling at things.

00:03:47.000 That's what Bernie Sanders was last night.

00:03:49.000 It didn't work.

00:03:50.000 It came off particularly poorly.

00:03:53.000 He didn't have any shining moments.

00:03:55.000 All of his lines are basically hackneyed and old.

00:03:59.000 I think you're watching the beginning of the end of Bernie Sanders in real time.

00:04:03.000 So here's Bernie Sanders being forced by Savannah Guthrie last night to answer a very simple question.

00:04:07.000 Are you going to raise taxes on the middle class? 0.87

00:04:09.000 Didn't go great for him.

00:04:11.000 Will you raise taxes for the middle class in a Sanders administration? 0.78

00:04:16.000 People who have health care under Medicare for all will have no premiums, no deductibles, no copayments, no out-of-pocket expenses.

00:04:25.000 Yes, they will pay more in taxes, but less in health care.

00:04:30.000 So, that is not a great answer.

00:04:33.000 That is an answer that is going to hurt him.

00:04:35.000 Don't worry, you're going to pay less in taxes.

00:04:37.000 You're going to pay less in health care, but you're going to pay way more in taxes.

00:04:41.000 That's not an answer that is going to help Bernie Sanders.

00:04:44.000 Points for honesty, but this hasn't worked since Walter Mondale.

00:04:47.000 The, okay, we're going to raise your taxes dramatically pitch.

00:04:51.000 It got worse for Bernie Sanders.

00:04:52.000 The worst moment for Bernie Sanders is when he was specifically asked how he would make Medicare for All work.

00:04:57.000 Now, I will point something out about Sanders.

00:04:59.000 There's no question that the debate moderators last night were out to get him.

00:05:02.000 There's no question that the debate moderators last night asked the toughest questions to Biden and Sanders.

00:05:07.000 And fittingly, I mean, they are the two frontrunners in the race.

00:05:10.000 But the tenor of the questions to Biden and Sanders was significantly harsher than the tenor of the questions to Pete Buttigieg or Kamala Harris.

00:05:17.000 Neither of whom was really asked about their record in any serious way.

00:05:21.000 Biden and Sanders, however, were.

00:05:23.000 And Sanders had no good answers, which is amazing because he's been running on the same platform since 1932 when he was still rallying with the socialists at City University of New York.

00:05:33.000 We'll get to Bernie Sanders' worst moment in just one second.

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00:06:50.000 Okay, so the worst moment of the night for Bernie Sanders, who's been fading, was his answer on Medicare.

00:06:56.000 So he was specifically asked about, you have this Medicare for All plan, and it's been tried at a few state levels.

00:07:01.000 It's been tried in Vermont.

00:07:03.000 They talked about it in California, and they decided it was impractical.

00:07:06.000 So how is it that all of these leftist states have tried Medicare for All, and it's been a giant fail, but your Medicare for All will work?

00:07:12.000 How are you going to make that happen?

00:07:13.000 He's got nothing.

00:07:17.000 I will tell you how we'll do it.

00:07:22.000 We'll do it the way real change has always taken place.

00:07:25.000 Whether it was the labor movement, the civil rights movement, or the women's movement.

00:07:29.000 We will have Medicare for all.

00:07:32.000 When tens of millions of people are prepared to stand up and tell the insurance companies and the drug companies that their day is gone, that healthcare is a human right, not something to make huge profits off of.

00:07:47.000 So how are you gonna make that happen?

00:07:49.000 He says, well, I'm gonna say that it's going to happen.

00:07:51.000 They're like, well, but how?

00:07:52.000 He's like, so here's how, you want to know how I'll make it happen?

00:07:56.000 By saying so!

00:07:57.000 I'm like, but how is it gonna happen?

00:07:58.000 He's like, well, I'm going to yell, and everybody else is going to yell.

00:08:02.000 And if we all yell together, our yelling will be so loud that the walls of Jericho will fall.

00:08:07.000 Everybody's like, um, what?

00:08:09.000 He's like, no, the yelling is the key.

00:08:11.000 What don't you understand about what I'm saying to you?

00:08:14.000 Yelling is the key.

00:08:16.000 Dude?

00:08:17.000 No.

00:08:18.000 Bernie Sanders didn't win any points last night.

00:08:21.000 Like, as in no points last night.

00:08:23.000 So, that's a problem for Bernie because he's been losing momentum to Elizabeth Warren, which was lackluster in night one, and then he was even worse in night two.

00:08:29.000 So this is a big, bad night for Bernie Sanders.

00:08:32.000 Does that mean he starts to...

00:08:34.000 No.

00:08:34.000 Crumble immediately?

00:08:35.000 But he's going to continue that slow decline into obsolescence that, frankly, he has so richly deserved for years.

00:08:41.000 And I assume that Elizabeth Warren will pick up some of those votes and maybe Kamala Harris, who we'll get to in just a second. 1.00

00:08:47.000 The other person who had a bad night was Joe Biden.

00:08:49.000 So Joe Biden looked old.

00:08:52.000 He felt old.

00:08:53.000 He did not seem on top of his game.

00:08:56.000 Now, so far, he has seemed impervious.

00:08:58.000 So far, nobody has really taken note of any of his foibles.

00:09:02.000 He was attacked just last week by Cory Booker on his comments on desegregation and forced busing, his comments on segregationist senators, his comments on crime.

00:09:13.000 He was attacked by Cory Booker over this.

00:09:15.000 It didn't help Cory Booker at all.

00:09:16.000 But then again, Cory Booker wasn't facing him on a stage.

00:09:18.000 Kamala Harris was facing him on a stage, and the biggest moment of the night last night, bar none, for both Harris and Biden was this exchange where Kamala Harris went after Joe Biden on the issue of race.

00:09:28.000 It's a long exchange.

00:09:29.000 We're going to break it up, and I'm going to explain what's going on.

00:09:31.000 Now, let me start with this. 0.99

00:09:33.000 Kamala Harris is a deeply dishonest human being. 1.00

00:09:35.000 What she's doing to Joe Biden here is really dishonest. 0.99

00:09:37.000 So she is suggesting that Joe Biden is a racist while saying, well, I'm not really saying you're a racist, but you're kind of a racist.

00:09:44.000 What is the basis for her claim that Joe Biden is a racist?

00:09:47.000 Her basis for that claim is that Joe Biden, back in the 1970s and 1980s, opposed forced busing.

00:09:52.000 Okay, forced busing was deeply unpopular policy at the time.

00:09:56.000 It remains deeply unpopular today, but you're not allowed to say that because anything that was well-motivated but bad policy on the issue of race is now considered to be good policy.

00:10:06.000 That's how this works.

00:10:07.000 So forced busing resulted in more de facto segregation in American life.

00:10:12.000 It resulted in white flight.

00:10:13.000 It resulted in the devastation of tax bases in more integrated cities as white people fled.

00:10:18.000 It resulted in people taking their money and their time out of the public schools and putting it instead into charter schools and private schools.

00:10:25.000 Forced busing was a very bad idea.

00:10:27.000 There's a difference, by the way, between getting rid of de jure, by law, segregation, which of course is not only moral, but also good policy, right?

00:10:36.000 Getting rid of the government discriminating between the races, And then trying to get rid of de facto segregation, meaning people who are voluntarily separate in their lives, by forcing people to cross lines, by basically taking a bus and putting it in a city and saying, we're going to drive you out to the suburb 45 minutes.

00:10:54.000 So that we can achieve some sort of unspecified racial balance in schools.

00:10:58.000 This resulted in a lot of black schools being shut down so that the counties and the states could achieve racial balance by forcing those black kids to be bused to white schools. 0.92

00:11:06.000 It resulted in a lot of white kids being pulled out of public schools by their parents who didn't want them bused to largely black schools.

00:11:12.000 Not because they were racist, but because, as everyone knew, this is the basis for desegregation.

00:11:16.000 Those black schools were underfunded and poorly managed.

00:11:20.000 And didn't have the resources or, in many cases, the parental influences that were necessary to build a great public school in those areas.

00:11:28.000 All of this resulted in some very bad things.

00:11:30.000 But the idea is that if Joe Biden opposed it, it must have been because he was a racist, not for any of the other reasons. 0.61

00:11:34.000 It must have been because he was a racist.

00:11:36.000 So Kamala Harris knows better than this. 1.00

00:11:38.000 She doesn't care. 0.88

00:11:39.000 She's a very, very cynical politician. 0.97

00:11:41.000 And so here she is going after Joe Biden and essentially claiming the same thing Cory Booker claimed, which is that even if she's not going to openly claim that Biden's a racist, Biden's kind of a racist. 0.91

00:11:51.000 Now, I will note strategically, this is very smart, not only Is she impervious to any counterattack from Biden on this because she's a black woman? 0.79

00:11:58.000 But also, she is in a position to now run as his VP should he win the nomination because she can grant him absolution.

00:12:08.000 He can then select her and she can say, you know what?

00:12:11.000 I never said that Joe Biden was a racist, which she didn't, right?

00:12:14.000 She sort of strongly, strongly implied it.

00:12:17.000 But this puts her in a position to be his VP.

00:12:18.000 And then he can say, really, if I'm such a racist, then why is this woman standing next to me?

00:12:23.000 Now, he tried that with Obama last night.

00:12:24.000 It didn't work great.

00:12:26.000 Here's the exchange.

00:12:27.000 The key here is that Kamala Harris is aggressive, and Joe Biden looks tentative, at least at the beginning.

00:12:32.000 Then he starts to fight back, and then he stops himself.

00:12:33.000 That's the nature of the exchange.

00:12:35.000 The other reason this is bad for Biden is the optics.

00:12:38.000 So the optics are, Joe Biden is an old, doddering guy.

00:12:42.000 And nobody really knows why he is running, other than he feels like he is owed this.

00:12:50.000 Kamala Harris is very aggressive. 1.00

00:12:52.000 And if you are a Democrat right now, what you want is somebody who is aggressively going to prosecute Trump, right?

00:12:56.000 That is your case.

00:12:57.000 Your case for Kamala Harris is that Kamala Harris is very aggressive in this exchange. 0.81

00:13:01.000 And that's good for her because if she's willing to take on Biden, she's willing to take on Trump.

00:13:05.000 The same dynamic applied, by the way, in 2016.

00:13:08.000 Donald Trump's pure aggression on the debate stage, as opposed to all of the other candidates, made him the nominee because people wanted to see him take on Hillary Clinton and throw everything, including the kitchen sink, at her.

00:13:19.000 Kamala Harris exuded that last night. 1.00

00:13:21.000 She was clearly the most prepared.

00:13:23.000 She was clearly the most well-spoken candidate on the stage, maybe with the exception of Pete Buttigieg.

00:13:29.000 And she had herself a really good night.

00:13:31.000 What that meant in this exchange we're about to play for you is that Joe Biden had a really bad night.

00:13:36.000 I'll get to that in just one second.

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00:14:50.000 OK, so here was the key exchange of the entire evening.

00:14:53.000 Here's Kamala Harris, the senator from California, who's riding at 5% or 6% in the polls, just high enough to start a base for momentum, go after Joe Biden.

00:15:02.000 Consensus from the night, Kamala Harris big winner.

00:15:05.000 Joe Biden not.

00:15:06.000 We'll see whether it has any impact on polls, right?

00:15:08.000 If he withstands this and there's no damage in the polls, he's probably the nominee.

00:15:11.000 If, however, there is any damage that measures here, if Kamala Harris gets a bump and Joe Biden gets a bit of a decline, this may be the beginning of the end of Joe Biden's candidacy.

00:15:20.000 Here is Kamala Harris going after Biden. 0.86

00:15:21.000 We'll break it up and explain what's going on.

00:15:24.000 I do not believe you are a racist.

00:15:26.000 And I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground.

00:15:33.000 But I also believe, and it's personal, and it was actually very, it was hurtful.

00:15:39.000 To hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country.

00:15:52.000 So she's already mischaracterizing his comments.

00:15:55.000 Okay, so his comments were that there were these segregationists, and they were the worst people I knew, and I had to make deals with them.

00:16:01.000 That was the entirety of the comments.

00:16:03.000 She's immediately going to the Cory Booker place, which is, you are praising segregationists as nice guys and wonderful people because you're a bad person.

00:16:09.000 Now, Kamala Harris is in the Senate. 0.99

00:16:11.000 She knows this is nonsense.

00:16:12.000 That's why it's so cynical what she's doing here. 0.99

00:16:15.000 She, I mean, this is a woman with no boundaries, my goodness. 0.99

00:16:17.000 This is a politician with no boundaries.

00:16:20.000 Now, in a normal, decent world, everybody would see through the game that she is playing here, but we don't live in that world.

00:16:25.000 We live in a world where if you invoke the very term racism, you have now put Joe Biden on the defensive.

00:16:30.000 Here's Harris.

00:16:32.000 And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing.

00:16:39.000 And, you know, there was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools.

00:16:47.000 And she was bused to school every day.

00:16:50.000 And that little girl was me.

00:16:53.000 So, I will tell you that on this subject, it cannot be an intellectual debate among Democrats.

00:17:00.000 We have to take it seriously.

00:17:02.000 We have to act swiftly.

00:17:04.000 As Attorney General of California, I was very proud to put in place a requirement that all my special agents would wear body cameras and keep those cameras on.

00:17:12.000 Senator Harris, thank you.

00:17:15.000 Vice President Biden.

00:17:16.000 Okay, so pause it there.

00:17:17.000 We'll get to Biden's response in just a second.

00:17:19.000 So what she's doing there is she's saying that just by opposing forced busing, this makes you, I'm not saying you're a racist, but you're kind of a racist. 1.00

00:17:27.000 This is a bunch of crap. 0.99

00:17:29.000 There's a big difference between forced busing and desegregation. 1.00

00:17:33.000 Forcible integration and desegregation are not the same thing.

00:17:36.000 Forced busing was a government-sponsored policy in non-Jim Crow states, by the way, in Boston.

00:17:41.000 In Los Angeles, in which the government was forcing children, 12-year-olds, to get on buses and go to schools at places they didn't know, far from their homes, both black kids and white kids, in an attempt to establish some sort of statistical racial integration.

00:17:57.000 It led to the very predictable consequence of parents pulling their kids out of those schools, in general, moving them to private schools or charter schools, devastating tax bases in precisely the cities that needed the tax base to stay the most.

00:18:09.000 It led people to move from those areas further and further into suburbia, leading to even more de facto, not de jure, de jure means by law, de facto segregation.

00:18:22.000 Force busing was an enormous policy failure.

00:18:25.000 It was started with the best of intentions.

00:18:27.000 The government didn't have that authority, and not only didn't the government have that authority, the government was reaching into the private lives of its citizens and forcing them to do something.

00:18:36.000 This is a big problem.

00:18:39.000 Forced busing was bad policy, and opposing forced busing did not make you a racist.

00:18:43.000 In many cases, opposing forced busing was about ensuring that people continue to live together in the same community, and that schools were organized by community, as opposed to forcing people to get up in the morning, take a 45-minute drive via bus to some other school they didn't know in a community they didn't know.

00:19:00.000 As I say, black schools, many of them, were forcibly shut down by the state.

00:19:05.000 Because they had to redistribute the black students in such a way as to meet the legal requirements set by the Supreme Court in Milliken.

00:19:10.000 It was a case from the 1980s.

00:19:13.000 All of this was bad policy.

00:19:15.000 All of this was bad policy.

00:19:17.000 But according to Kamala Harris, if you oppose the policy, the only reason you could have possibly done that is because you're a racist.

00:19:21.000 And not only that, you would have stopped little Kamala Harris from going to a better school if that had been the case. 0.98

00:19:28.000 Well, no.

00:19:29.000 What if we had been in favor of, for example, school vouchers, which would have allowed you to pick the school you wanted to go to, as opposed to the government forcing you to go to a school that maybe you wanted to go to and maybe you didn't want to go to?

00:19:38.000 There are lots of alternative policies that have been proposed by people who opposed forced busing that would be more effective in improving our public school system.

00:19:47.000 But according to Kamala Harris, you would have stopped her from succeeding as a human being if you had stopped forced busing, and that's Joe Biden's fault.

00:19:54.000 Here's Joe Biden's response.

00:19:57.000 Senator Harris, thank you.

00:19:58.000 Vice President Biden, you have been invoked.

00:20:00.000 We are going to give you a chance to respond.

00:20:03.000 Vice President Biden.

00:20:05.000 It's a mischaracterization, my position across the board.

00:20:15.000 I did not praise racists.

00:20:17.000 That is not true, number one.

00:20:19.000 Number two, if we want to have this campaign litigated on who supports civil rights and whether I did or not, I'm happy to do that.

00:20:26.000 I was a public defender.

00:20:27.000 I didn't become a prosecutor.

00:20:28.000 I came out, I left a good law firm to become a public defender, when in fact, when in fact, When in fact my city was in flames because of the assassination of Dr. King, number one.

00:20:41.000 Okay, so stop it there for a second. 0.88

00:20:42.000 So Biden goes with the convenience attack, which is that she's a narc, right?

00:20:47.000 So already Biden sounds tired, right?

00:20:49.000 She sounds emotional and enlivened.

00:20:52.000 Biden goes after her and he says, I was a public defender, you were a narc lady. 0.97

00:20:57.000 Yeah, not the strongest comeback.

00:21:00.000 Not the strongest comeback.

00:21:01.000 He does get stronger as this comeback goes on.

00:21:04.000 Number one.

00:21:05.000 Number two, as the Vice President of the United States, I work with a man who, in fact, we worked very hard to see to it we dealt with these issues in a major, major way.

00:21:17.000 The fact is that, in terms of busing, The busing, I never, you would have been able to go to school the same exact way because it was a local decision made by your city council.

00:21:28.000 That's fine.

00:21:28.000 That's one of the things I argued for, that we should not be, we should be breaking down these lines.

00:21:33.000 But so the bottom line here is, look, everything I've done in my career, I ran because of civil rights.

00:21:39.000 I continue to think we have to make fundamental changes in civil rights.

00:21:42.000 And those civil rights, by the way, include not just only African Americans, but the LGBT community.

00:21:50.000 We'll get to Kamala Harris's answer on this in just one second.

00:21:55.000 So Biden's final answer there is the right one, which is, I've worked on civil rights all my life.

00:21:59.000 For you to characterize me as a racist is a vicious move.

00:22:02.000 You don't have evidence of that.

00:22:03.000 By the way, I should note.

00:22:04.000 That forced busing was not just unpopular with white Americans in the 1970s, it was unpopular with many black Americans.

00:22:10.000 There was a 1972 Gallup poll cited by Slate, okay, not a right-wing site, showed that 77% of whites were against busing in 1972.

00:22:16.000 The same poll showed that 47% of blacks were against it as well.

00:22:21.000 In an article at Slate all about this particular topic, it's a very long and thorough article by a guy named Tanner Colby, all about this specific issue, he talks about the effect of this.

00:22:33.000 He said that it cost cities enormous amounts of money.

00:22:36.000 It did not actually end with the goals that it purported to achieve.

00:22:41.000 It was deeply unpopular all the way through.

00:22:43.000 He says many black Americans did believe in the school bus and the access it provided.

00:22:48.000 Busing might have been a viable tool for those families, had it been smartly and surgically applied.

00:22:51.000 It wasn't.

00:22:52.000 It was presented in a sweeping fashion that denied many blacks the agency that they sought.

00:22:57.000 There were huge problems in the policy.

00:22:58.000 Just because it was well-motivated does not mean that it was racist to oppose the policy.

00:23:02.000 In a second, we'll get to Kamala Harris's response to Biden.

00:23:06.000 Which, again, she's going to get deeply dishonest with Biden.

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00:24:36.000 Okay, so Joe Biden responds to Kamala Harris and then Kamala Harris responds again to Joe Biden and doubles down again attacking Joe Biden. 1.00

00:24:45.000 President Biden, do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose busing in America then?

00:24:53.000 Do you agree?

00:24:54.000 I did not oppose busing in America.

00:24:56.000 What I opposed is busing ordered by the Department of Education.

00:25:00.000 That's what I opposed.

00:25:01.000 Well, there was a failure of states to integrate public schools in America.

00:25:06.000 I was part of the second class to integrate Berkeley, California public schools almost two decades after Brown v. Board of Education.

00:25:14.000 Because your city council made that decision.

00:25:17.000 It was a local decision.

00:25:18.000 So that's where the federal government must step in.

00:25:19.000 That's why we have the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act.

00:25:23.000 This is where Biden gets himself in trouble, right?

00:25:26.000 So Kamala Harris is demagoguing this issue, for sure. 1.00

00:25:28.000 But she is saying that the federal government had to step in because localities wouldn't do it.

00:25:33.000 Biden is saying, well, wait a second.

00:25:34.000 I didn't say that localities can't do it.

00:25:36.000 I said that the Department of Education Should not step in from the top and mandate this federally.

00:25:41.000 She's saying, well, you know, there are going to be local governments that didn't do it.

00:25:44.000 So if you like forced busing, then forced busing should be federal policy.

00:25:47.000 So Biden is trying to split the baby in much the same way that Mitt Romney tried to split the baby when it came to questions about Romneycare.

00:25:54.000 People said, OK, well, you pushed Romneycare back in Massachusetts.

00:25:57.000 Why not push it nationally?

00:25:58.000 And he said, well, that's a state's rights thing.

00:26:00.000 And people were like, well, but you said it's good policy.

00:26:02.000 So why not do it federally?

00:26:04.000 Well, the same thing is happening to Joe Biden in this particular debate.

00:26:06.000 He doesn't have a good answer for it.

00:26:08.000 His answer should be, forced busing is a well-intentioned policy that did not have productive results.

00:26:13.000 You're not allowed to say honest things, though, in the Democratic debate.

00:26:16.000 And Kamala Harris knows this.

00:26:17.000 She knows that Joe Biden can't be on tape saying to Kamala Harris that forced busing was a bad idea.

00:26:23.000 That's why it's such a demagogic attack, because you can have an actual honest discussion over forced busing, but that ain't what's happening on stage.

00:26:29.000 What's happening on stage right here is Kamala Harris starting off by saying that, I'm not saying you're a racist, Joe, but you opposed forced busing.

00:26:38.000 And then if Biden says, right, because force busting was a bad idea, she says, well, you only think that because you're not a racist, but you're a racist.

00:26:45.000 She's trapped him here.

00:26:46.000 He has no place to go.

00:26:48.000 And finally, he gets frustrated and he starts lashing out.

00:26:50.000 And this is the best that Biden is. 0.96

00:26:51.000 And then he stops himself, which is just ridiculous.

00:26:54.000 The Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act.

00:26:57.000 That's why we need to pass the Equality Act.

00:27:00.000 That's why we need to pass the ERA.

00:27:01.000 Because there are moments in history where states fail to preserve the civil rights of all people.

00:27:12.000 I want to bring other people into this.

00:27:13.000 I supported the ERA from the very beginning.

00:27:15.000 I'm the guy that extended the Voting Rights Act for 25 years.

00:27:19.000 We got to the place where we got 98 out of 98 votes in the United States Senate doing it.

00:27:25.000 I've also argued very strongly that we, in fact, deal with the notion of denying people access to the ballot box.

00:27:32.000 I agree that everybody, once they in fact—anyway, my time's up.

00:27:37.000 Anyway, my time is up.

00:27:38.000 That's the worst move he makes in this entire exchange.

00:27:40.000 Worst move he makes.

00:27:41.000 He's finally gaining steam.

00:27:42.000 He finally has a chance to answer.

00:27:44.000 And he goes to where he should go, which is the entire history of my career is fighting for civil rights.

00:27:50.000 And he lists off all of his supposed accomplishments in this area.

00:27:53.000 And then he says, well, I have to stop myself.

00:27:54.000 Time is up.

00:27:55.000 That's her key line, right?

00:27:56.000 That's her big win right there.

00:27:58.000 Because first of all, it's an old guy saying that his time is up.

00:28:01.000 Second of all, it looks as though he is looking to get out of the conflict by going to the timekeeper, basically.

00:28:09.000 It was a very bad moment for Joe Biden.

00:28:10.000 It wasn't the only bad moment for Joe Biden.

00:28:13.000 Joe Biden raised his hand when it came to whether health care should cover illegal immigrants, for example.

00:28:17.000 Everybody did.

00:28:18.000 Every single Democrat on stage raised their hand when asked if health care, government-provided health care, should cover illegal immigrants, which is an amazing statement. 1.00

00:28:25.000 I'm old enough to remember when Joe Wilson, Representative Joe Wilson, who I believe is from South Carolina, was taken to task for going to the State of the Union address with Barack Obama and shouting at Obama, you lie, when Obama said that his plan would not cover illegal immigrants.

00:28:41.000 Now every Democrat is saying, of course it'll cover illegal immigrants.

00:28:45.000 Of course that's where we're going.

00:28:46.000 So here is Joe Biden raising his hand.

00:28:48.000 This is a show of hands question and hold them up for a moment so people can see.

00:28:53.000 Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants.

00:28:59.000 Every single Democrat raises their hand.

00:29:01.000 Every single Democrat.

00:29:02.000 That's an amazing thing, including Joe Biden, who did this sort of weird thing repeatedly in these show of hands situations where it looked like he couldn't make up his mind.

00:29:10.000 Again, underscoring the idea that maybe he's out of touch, maybe he's too old, maybe he's past his prime.

00:29:15.000 He would do this routine where he sort of raised one finger and kind of put it down and then raised another finger.

00:29:19.000 It's a very weird moment.

00:29:21.000 You can see him doing it right here if you're watching the show.

00:29:24.000 Everybody else kind of either goes up with the hand or doesn't go up with the hand.

00:29:26.000 He does kind of this weird vacillating move.

00:29:29.000 Doesn't look good for him.

00:29:32.000 Meanwhile, and there were a couple other hits against Biden that scored also, right?

00:29:36.000 Eric Swalwell, who really is just the worst of the worst.

00:29:39.000 Eric Swalwell, who is irrelevant.

00:29:41.000 No one cares about him.

00:29:42.000 He's basically there just to Effectively torpedo people.

00:29:47.000 Here was Eric Swalwell torpedoing Biden and Biden's got nothing.

00:29:50.000 I was six years old when a presidential candidate came to the California Democratic Convention and said it's time to pass the torch to a new generation of Americans.

00:30:01.000 That candidate was then Senator Joe Biden.

00:30:04.000 Joe Biden was right when he said it was time to pass the torch to a new generation of Americans 32 years ago.

00:30:09.000 He's still right today.

00:30:11.000 I'm still holding on to that torch.

00:30:15.000 Okay, that's the best you can do?

00:30:17.000 You weren't prepared for your old attack?

00:30:19.000 It's not exactly... I will not comment on my opponent's youth and inexperience.

00:30:24.000 It's not exactly a Ronald Reagan line from 1984.

00:30:27.000 That is some weak tea there from Joe Biden.

00:30:29.000 And it was weak tea all the way through.

00:30:30.000 Now, it's possible that it doesn't affect him.

00:30:33.000 It's possible that he's somewhat invulnerable.

00:30:35.000 That nothing happens.

00:30:36.000 That in the end, people look at him, they go, OK, we already know Joe Biden.

00:30:39.000 We're not learning anything new.

00:30:40.000 We know he's old.

00:30:41.000 We know he's vacillating.

00:30:42.000 We know he's not too strong.

00:30:43.000 But he's the guy who can beat Donald Trump.

00:30:46.000 Maybe that's what happens here.

00:30:47.000 Or maybe he looks like he was put back on his heels by a freshman senator from California.

00:30:52.000 Maybe that's what it looks like.

00:30:53.000 Because that's what it looked like last night.

00:30:55.000 Which means the big winner was Kamala Harris.

00:30:56.000 We'll get to Kamala Harris' showing and why she's a particularly frightening candidate.

00:31:00.000 I mean, she's a frightening candidate because she openly espouses her own love of tyranny. 1.00

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00:32:23.000 That was Kamala Harris. 0.92

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00:34:53.000 So if the big loser of the night was last night was Bernie Sanders, and if the person who put himself most at risk was Joe Biden, and he did because blood is now in the water, then the big winner, of course, was Kamala Harris.

00:35:06.000 She was the most rehearsed.

00:35:06.000 She was the most on her game.

00:35:07.000 Now, because she was rehearsed, there's also a certain lack of charm to her candidacy. 0.92

00:35:14.000 What Pete Buttigieg is really good at is looking somewhat spontaneous.

00:35:18.000 And frankly, Pete Buttigieg, I think, has about 20 IQ points on everybody else in the Democratic field, so that helps.

00:35:24.000 Kamala Harris is a very smart person.

00:35:26.000 She's also a very well-rehearsed person.

00:35:27.000 She's the most politician-y of all the politicians. 0.97

00:35:30.000 As she does her shtick a little bit more, I wonder if it's gonna get a little tired.

00:35:34.000 Because people are looking for authenticity and spontaneity.

00:35:37.000 And Kamala Harris is a shark.

00:35:39.000 I mean, my goodness. 0.99

00:35:40.000 If there's blood in the water, she is a shark. 1.00

00:35:42.000 And you can tell how rehearsed she is because even some of the lines that shouldn't really be rehearsed are totally rehearsed.

00:35:47.000 Here's an example.

00:35:48.000 So last night, the moderators just did a horrific job.

00:35:51.000 They did a terrible job with the mics.

00:35:53.000 They didn't distribute time properly.

00:35:54.000 Andrew Yang ended up with three minutes of total time in a two-hour debate.

00:35:58.000 So, well done, moderators.

00:36:02.000 It gave Kamala Harris the opening to be the adult in the room, which is, I'm honestly shocked.

00:36:06.000 I mean, these people are so unprofessional.

00:36:07.000 I'm shocked that nobody else in the room did this. 0.56

00:36:10.000 But Kamala Harris, she sort of parachuted into the middle of everybody screaming at each other, like it's a mad, mad, mad, mad world. 1.00

00:36:18.000 And then she went, you know, guys, we all need to calm down. 1.00

00:36:21.000 But she does it with the most rehearsed and canned line ever, and then gets a big round of applause, because everything is stupid. 1.00

00:36:27.000 Hey guys, you know what? 1.00

00:36:28.000 America does not want to witness a food fight.

00:36:31.000 We will let you all speak.

00:36:38.000 Senator Harris.

00:36:40.000 Hey guys, you know what?

00:36:43.000 America does not want to witness a food fight.

00:36:45.000 They want to know how we're going to put food on their table.

00:36:47.000 So I will note something else.

00:36:49.000 And that is that the crowd was stacked for Harris from the very outset.

00:36:54.000 I'm I mean, I noted this on Twitter.

00:36:55.000 It is obvious that whoever's in the crowd makes a huge difference in these debates.

00:36:59.000 Bernie Sanders was not getting any applause for his cheer lines. 0.99

00:37:02.000 Kamala Harris was getting applauded for every dumb thing she said. 1.00

00:37:05.000 One of her big applause lines, and she was talking about when the president has the microphone in her hand. 0.99

00:37:12.000 And everyone's like, ooh, her, because she's a woman. 1.00

00:37:16.000 I get it.

00:37:16.000 I get the joke.

00:37:17.000 Wow.

00:37:18.000 Oh, my.

00:37:20.000 And people are cheering!

00:37:22.000 So, is that going to wear over the course of a two-year campaign, which is what this is?

00:37:26.000 I don't know.

00:37:27.000 But she had a good night last night.

00:37:29.000 Now, she's unbelievably radical.

00:37:32.000 She's unbelievably radical.

00:37:34.000 By this, I mean that the positions she takes are so far outside the mainstream, I don't know how she walks them back in a general election. 0.97

00:37:40.000 So, for example, she was asked about decriminalizing illegal immigration.

00:37:43.000 There's this really dumb debate that is now broken out among Democrats over whether Section 1325 of the federal code, which makes it a criminal act to Kamala Harris goes even further.

00:37:52.000 United States between ports of entry, whether that should be repealed.

00:37:56.000 So now it would just be a civil fine and you would just be detained and you wouldn't be detained.

00:38:00.000 You would just be released with a fine.

00:38:01.000 If you cross into the United States, Kamala Harris goes even further.

00:38:05.000 Okay.

00:38:05.000 She says not only would I decriminalize crossing the border, meaning we can't hold you until you pending an asylum claim.

00:38:12.000 She's saying not only would she decriminalize it.

00:38:15.000 She would also make sure that she would not deport anyone.

00:38:19.000 Anyone!

00:38:20.000 So in other words, if you cross the border illegally, you rush that Rio Grande, you come across the other side, Let's say they cannot arrest you.

00:38:27.000 They can issue basically a parking ticket.

00:38:29.000 They give you a piece of paper that says, you now owe us $100.

00:38:32.000 Okay, skedaddle.

00:38:35.000 And then presumably everybody just sort of rushes into the Arizona desert.

00:38:39.000 And if you make it, welcome, you're now an American.

00:38:42.000 Here's Kamala Harris basically making this insane case. 1.00

00:38:45.000 I will say, no, absolutely not.

00:38:46.000 They should not be deported.

00:38:48.000 And I actually, this was one of the very few issues with which I disagreed with the administration.

00:38:55.000 Because the policy was to allow deportation of people who by ISIS's own definition were non-criminals.

00:39:04.000 So as attorney general and the chief law officer of the state of California, I issued a directive to the sheriffs of my state that they did not have to comply with detainers and instead should make decisions based on the best interest of public safety of their community.

00:39:20.000 So they would not respect ICE detainers, right?

00:39:23.000 Her case right now is that not only should localities ignore the federal government's request for detainers of people who may or may not be criminals for deportation, Outside of the criminality of crossing the border illegally, she says she would not deport a single human being who crosses the border illegally.

00:39:39.000 None.

00:39:39.000 Unless they've committed some other crime.

00:39:42.000 Okay, well, at that point, you may as well not have a border.

00:39:43.000 I mean, seriously, you may as well not have a border.

00:39:46.000 You may as well just call Mexico a part of the United States, except that they get to have their own governance, because that's insane. 0.52

00:39:52.000 And if she wants more dead migrants crossing that Rio Grande border, I can't think of a better way to do that than to say to them, listen, you go through a port of entry, and you may have to go through an asylum process, but you cross between ports of entry, you enter, we'll give you a parking ticket, let you go, and then you just get to stay here forever. 0.99

00:40:08.000 My goodness, if she thinks that is a mainstream American position, Now Kamala Harris also happens to be a tyrant. 1.00

00:40:15.000 So she kept suggesting things like, on day one, I'm going to do X. And the X was something that Congress actually has to do.

00:40:22.000 So she would say, on day one, I'm going to repeal Trump's tax cuts.

00:40:24.000 Yeah, how are you going to do that?

00:40:25.000 How are you going to do that?

00:40:26.000 You're president of the United States if you're elected.

00:40:28.000 You're not even in the legislature.

00:40:30.000 It takes an active legislature to repeal a tax cut.

00:40:32.000 But according to Kamala Harris, day one, she's going to do all this stuff. 1.00

00:40:35.000 She's a dangerous figure, a really dangerous figure. 1.00

00:40:38.000 Also, she's a damned liar. 1.00

00:40:39.000 And when I say that, I mean that she has now lied multiple times about her position on private health insurance. 1.00

00:40:44.000 Everybody's ignoring this because she was leading a charmed life last night. 0.89

00:40:48.000 But the fact is that You'll recall that she had an actual Q&A on CNN just a few weeks ago, in which she was asked whether she would abolish private insurance.

00:40:57.000 And she said, absolutely, I'll abolish private insurance.

00:41:00.000 I'm for Medicare for all, just like Bernie.

00:41:02.000 Get rid of private insurance, throw 177 million Americans off their healthcare plan, just do it.

00:41:07.000 And then, two days later, she's like, no, you know, I didn't really mean that.

00:41:11.000 I meant that people should mostly be able to be on public insurance, but if they want their private insurance, I meant a public option is what I meant.

00:41:19.000 Well, last night, they asked the question on stage, would you abolish private insurance?

00:41:24.000 And guess what Kamala Harris did? 1.00

00:41:26.000 She raised her hand alongside the only other Democrat on the stage who did, Bernie Sanders.

00:41:30.000 Here's what that looked like.

00:41:32.000 Who here would abolish their private health insurance in favor of a government-run plan?

00:41:42.000 So the only two people on stage are Bernie Sanders and Kamala Harris.

00:41:44.000 She knows precisely what she's doing there, because nobody else on stage is raising their hand.

00:41:48.000 She knows what that question means. 0.74

00:41:50.000 Now, she didn't get a follow-up on it, of course, because the moderators suck, but not beyond that. 0.94

00:41:54.000 Beyond that, she then comes... Okay, so she is now flipped.

00:41:58.000 Her original position was, not abolishing private insurance.

00:42:00.000 Then she flipped to, I'm abolishing private insurance. 0.87

00:42:02.000 Then she flopped back to, I'm not abolishing private insurance. 0.77

00:42:05.000 Then she just flipped back to, yes, I'm abolishing private insurance.

00:42:08.000 And then this morning, she flopped back to, no, I misunderstood the question.

00:42:11.000 I'm not abolishing private insurance. 0.99

00:42:13.000 And she's just, she's a liar. 1.00

00:42:15.000 She's a liar. 1.00

00:42:16.000 Okay, I don't know how else you can put it. 1.00

00:42:18.000 It's not as though she didn't know this question was coming.

00:42:20.000 They asked it the previous night.

00:42:22.000 It's not as though she hasn't had time to think over the issue.

00:42:24.000 She made this gaffe like a month ago. 0.70

00:42:26.000 Here she was this morning being asked about her position.

00:42:30.000 So this morning, she was specifically asked about it, and she backed off of it.

00:42:35.000 Senator, another defining moment in the debate was when every candidate was asked to raise their hand if they would abolish private insurance.

00:42:42.000 In that moment, you raised your hand.

00:42:44.000 But afterwards, your campaign says, actually, that's not your position.

00:42:47.000 So what is your position on private insurance?

00:42:52.000 So the question was, would you be willing to give up your private insurance for such a plan?

00:42:57.000 That's not how it was asked.

00:42:59.000 That's what you heard, right?

00:43:02.000 That's certainly what I heard.

00:43:03.000 And in terms of, I am supportive of Medicare for All, and under a Medicare for All policy, private insurance would certainly exist, and for supplemental coverage.

00:43:13.000 She said no.

00:43:14.000 She said no.

00:43:15.000 It turns out that I misunderstood the question.

00:43:17.000 My fault.

00:43:18.000 My bad.

00:43:19.000 Sure, sure lady. 0.99

00:43:20.000 OK, but in essence, because of that exchange with Biden, it's the clips that matter.

00:43:25.000 That exchange with Biden is going to win her some.

00:43:28.000 Now, as I say, if Biden survives this, he's probably the nominee because it means that he's basically Teflon.

00:43:34.000 If, however, he starts to sink in the polls and people get the perception that he's old, that he can be damaged, then he's not.

00:43:40.000 And, you know, who picks up a lot of that ground?

00:43:42.000 Not Elizabeth Warren, who had a lackluster night.

00:43:44.000 Not Bernie Sanders, who had a lackluster night.

00:43:47.000 A lot of that support is going to go to Kamala Harris.

00:43:49.000 So Kamala Harris just bumped herself back into the top tier of candidates. 1.00

00:43:52.000 Now, the other candidate who had what I thought was a pretty good night was Pete Buttigieg.

00:43:56.000 Buttigieg really shines on stage.

00:43:57.000 He's quite good at this.

00:43:59.000 He's very articulate.

00:44:00.000 He says insanely radical things, but he does so in the mannerism of moderation, which is really a good skill.

00:44:09.000 He says, now he does have this one weird tick that he keeps going back to, which is implying that everybody who doesn't support the agenda that he likes is not actually religious and is not actually a Christian.

00:44:19.000 I don't think that's gonna play in a general election very well at all.

00:44:22.000 People feel like they're being attacked for their religion by a person who not only supports same-sex marriage, I mean, he is a gay man who is married to another man, but also supports abortion on demand till point of birth.

00:44:33.000 Here is Pete Buttigieg lecturing Americans about their religion, which is a very weird thing to do in a democratic debate.

00:44:38.000 The Republican Party likes to cloak itself in the language of religion.

00:44:43.000 Now, our party doesn't talk about that as much, largely for a very good reason, which was we are committed to the separation of church and state, and we stand for people of any religion and people of no religion.

00:44:54.000 But we should call out hypocrisy when we see it.

00:44:56.000 And for a party that associates itself with Christianity, To say that it is okay to suggest that God would smile on the division of families at the hands of federal agents, that God would condone putting children in cages, has lost all claim to ever use religious language again. 0.95

00:45:16.000 Okay, what the hell is he talking about?

00:45:17.000 Who's out there saying that God would smile on the separation of children and parents?

00:45:20.000 Like, who's doing this?

00:45:22.000 Again, that sort of language is really radical.

00:45:24.000 Now, Buttigieg is very articulate.

00:45:27.000 He had a lot of good moments last night where he seemed like the only reasonable person on stage, sort of posing himself, as he always should have, as the younger alternative to Biden.

00:45:35.000 If you want somebody who's moderate, vote Pete Buttigieg, who's younger and better looking and more articulate than old, slow Joe.

00:45:43.000 I actually thought, so there was a moment with Buttigieg last night where Eric Swalwell, who as I say was the designated torpedo last night, where Eric Swalwell went after Buttigieg.

00:45:51.000 And this is being read in a couple different ways.

00:45:53.000 I actually thought that Buttigieg handled this about as well as a Democrat could.

00:45:56.000 Because again, you're not allowed to tell the truth on a Democrat debate stage.

00:46:00.000 So if the actual answer to Swalwell's question is, the facts aren't in, I'll respond to them when they're known.

00:46:05.000 But he's not allowed to say that.

00:46:07.000 Swallow is asking him about a police shooting that happened in South Bend that has created a bunch of media controversy because a police officer allegedly shot a man who was allegedly carrying a knife.

00:46:18.000 The man was black.

00:46:18.000 The police officer was white.

00:46:20.000 The body cameras weren't operational.

00:46:22.000 And Buttigieg has basically been sitting there and taking the heat for it.

00:46:27.000 That's the only thing he can do in the Democratic Party.

00:46:29.000 Again, it's an unfair attack by Swalwell because, as everybody knows, you don't have the facts.

00:46:34.000 What exactly is he supposed to do as the mayor? 0.98

00:46:35.000 But according to Swalwell, apparently he should fire the entire police department and replace them with the new Black Panthers or something, because Swalwell's a crazy person. 0.97

00:46:42.000 Here is Buttigieg responding. 0.97

00:46:43.000 My community is in anguish right now because of an officer-involved shooting.

00:46:47.000 A black man, Eric Logan, killed by a white officer. 0.79

00:46:51.000 It's a mess. 0.66

00:46:52.000 And we're hurting.

00:46:54.000 And I could walk you through all of the things that we have done as a community.

00:46:58.000 All of the steps that we took from bias training to de-escalation.

00:47:04.000 It didn't save the life of Eric Logan.

00:47:06.000 We've taken so many steps toward police accountability that, you know, the FOP just denounced me for too much accountability.

00:47:12.000 We're obviously not there yet.

00:47:14.000 And I accept responsibility for that because I'm in charge.

00:47:16.000 If the camera wasn't on and that was the policy, you should fire the chief.

00:47:19.000 So, under Indiana law, this will be investigated, and there will be accountability for the officer involved.

00:47:24.000 But you're the mayor, you should fire the chief.

00:47:26.000 If that's the policy and someone died.

00:47:29.000 OK, and then the moderator jumps in and says Buttigieg.

00:47:31.000 But the fact is that Buttigieg is giving a reasonable adult answer, while Swalwell is not.

00:47:37.000 I thought that Buttigieg had himself a pretty good night.

00:47:39.000 Now, do I think that that means that he is a top-tier candidate?

00:47:42.000 I still think that Buttigieg is probably the favorite to be VP.

00:47:46.000 I think that a Harris-Buttigieg ticket looks very good for Democrats.

00:47:50.000 It's diverse in every way that it's possible to be diverse, and at the same time is radical in all the ways that it is possible to be radical.

00:47:57.000 Those were the two big winners of last night, except for one big winner.

00:48:00.000 I mean, the biggest winner of all.

00:48:01.000 And that, of course, is Marianne Williamson.

00:48:02.000 Now, I know that we are all praying here at The Daily Wire for Marianne Williamson to win the Democratic nomination.

00:48:08.000 And the reason we are all praying for her is, number one, according to Marianne Williamson, prayers are like little birds that float into the sky but come down in your heart as spaceships.

00:48:17.000 I'm really looking forward to Marianne Williamson debating Donald Trump on vaccinations or something.

00:48:22.000 I just think that this is what America deserves.

00:48:25.000 We've had this coming and we deserve to get it good and hard.

00:48:27.000 Marianne Williamson was a delight last night.

00:48:30.000 I mean, an absolute delight.

00:48:31.000 So she led off with a point about President Trump.

00:48:35.000 She said, if you think that plans are going to beat Trump, you are wrong.

00:48:38.000 Now, here's the thing.

00:48:39.000 What she's saying has like a grain of truth to it, but she's so odd and bizarre and charmingly kooky.

00:48:46.000 And she's like a Diane Keaton character from a Woody Allen film in 1974, Marianne Williamson.

00:48:52.000 So here is Marianne Williamson saying, you guys are up here talking about plans.

00:48:56.000 You know what will beat Trump?

00:48:58.000 Something.

00:48:59.000 Here we go.

00:49:00.000 Go for it, Marianne.

00:49:01.000 I want to say that while I agree with Senator Bennet and others, but I agree with almost everything here, I'll tell you one thing.

00:49:08.000 It's really nice that we've got all these plans, but if you think we're going to beat Donald Trump by just having all these plans, you've got another thing coming.

00:49:15.000 Because he didn't win by saying he had a plan.

00:49:17.000 He won by simply saying, make America great again.

00:49:21.000 OK, and then she said, we need to talk about deeper things like Make America Great Again.

00:49:25.000 Everybody on stage is looking at each other like, Trump didn't win because he was deep.

00:49:28.000 But what she's actually saying there kind of has a grain of truth to it, which is that Make America Great Again has more emotional resonance to people than any of the plans anybody else is talking about.

00:49:37.000 I'm sorry, I have to show you more Marianne Williamson.

00:49:39.000 It is required.

00:49:40.000 So Marianne Williamson, her best moment was her closing.

00:49:44.000 So people were asked what you would do on your first day as president.

00:49:47.000 Her answer is so glorious.

00:49:48.000 It is just spectacular.

00:49:51.000 I have an idea about Donald Trump.

00:49:53.000 Donald Trump is not going to be beaten just by insider politics talk.

00:49:56.000 He's not going to be beaten just by somebody who has plans.

00:50:00.000 He's going to be beaten by somebody who has an idea what this man has done.

00:50:04.000 This man has reached into the psyche of the American people and he has harnessed fear for political purposes.

00:50:10.000 So, Mr. President, if you're listening, I want you to hear me, please.

00:50:14.000 You have harnessed fear for political purposes, and only love can cast that out.

00:50:18.000 So I, sir, I have a feeling you know what you're doing.

00:50:22.000 I'm going to harness love for political purposes.

00:50:25.000 I will meet you on that field, and, sir, love will win.

00:50:28.000 Is she propositioning the president? 1.00

00:50:31.000 She's gonna meet him on the field of love and then harness him with love or something? 0.95

00:50:36.000 What are we supposed to gain from that?

00:50:38.000 I don't know, but it was delightful.

00:50:39.000 Preach it, sister!

00:50:41.000 My goodness, that is some strong stuff from Marianne Williamson.

00:50:45.000 I support her.

00:50:46.000 I'm donating to her campaign.

00:50:47.000 I want her in every debate forever, Republican and Democrat. 0.93

00:50:49.000 I don't care.

00:50:51.000 That is some solid stuff.

00:50:52.000 She also, by the way, finished the debate by suggesting that she was going to call the Prime Minister of New Zealand.

00:50:56.000 Do we have the clip of her talking?

00:50:58.000 Yes.

00:50:58.000 Yes!

00:50:59.000 Play it.

00:51:00.000 My first call is to the Prime Minister of New Zealand, who said that her goal is to make New Zealand the place where it's the best place in the world for a child to grow up.

00:51:10.000 And I will tell her, girlfriend, you are so on, because the United States of America is going to be the best place in the world for a child to grow up.

00:51:17.000 I'm going to say, girlfriend, you are so on.

00:51:20.000 What?

00:51:22.000 All righty.

00:51:23.000 Well, Marianne Williamson for president, man.

00:51:25.000 I am on the bandwagon.

00:51:26.000 OK, time for a quick thing I like and then a thing that I hate.

00:51:28.000 So things that I like today.

00:51:30.000 I do love delusion.

00:51:31.000 Delusion is truly wonderful.

00:51:33.000 And Beto O'Rourke is participating in the grandest delusion that I've seen in quite a while.

00:51:38.000 So Beto just broke his face the other night.

00:51:40.000 I mean, he was in the first night's debate.

00:51:43.000 Giant fail.

00:51:45.000 Blew himself up.

00:51:46.000 Looks like he stepped on a landmine.

00:51:47.000 Circa Tropic Thunder.

00:51:49.000 I mean, just horrific showing by Beto O'Rourke the other night, finished his candidacy off.

00:51:53.000 It was so bad he had to put on a tie while going on TV.

00:51:56.000 You know it's bad for Beto when he doesn't put on his favorite shirt.

00:51:59.000 Beto was on with Alison Camerata on CNN, and she asked him how he would grade himself on his debate performance.

00:52:07.000 And he said words, the words are not true, but they're delightfully delusional.

00:52:12.000 Maybe he and Marianne Williamson can team up for a third-party candidacy.

00:52:15.000 I'm for it.

00:52:15.000 Here's Beto.

00:52:16.000 What grade would you give yourself for last night?

00:52:19.000 I'd give myself an A.

00:52:20.000 I wanted to make sure that I got that point across.

00:52:26.000 I described why I'm doing this, who I'm doing it for, the people that inspire me, and how we're going to meet these challenges.

00:52:33.000 And I felt like I was able to get that across.

00:52:36.000 Man, the man has no insight into himself.

00:52:38.000 He'd give himself an A because his whole life he's been giving himself an A for underperforming.

00:52:43.000 He gave himself an A for not beating Ted Cruz in the Senate.

00:52:46.000 He gave himself an A for serving in Congress without a shred of actual achievement.

00:52:50.000 He gave himself an A for spending most of his 20s running around the country dressed up as a furry.

00:52:58.000 I'd give myself an A, brah, because A's are what I've been getting for my entire life.

00:53:04.000 And also, like, I like the letter A. Grade A. Hash, dude.

00:53:09.000 Yeah.

00:53:10.000 Beta.

00:53:11.000 Gotta love them.

00:53:11.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.

00:53:18.000 So Bill de Blasio, giant groundhog serial killer, mayor of New York, he made a boo-boo.

00:53:23.000 He went down to Miami, because that's where the Democratic debate was, and he then proceeded to drop a phrase that was a direct quote from Che Guevara. 0.98

00:53:32.000 Now, because he's a moron and also a communist, he thinks that this is not a big deal in Miami, where all of the Cuban expatriates live, where people who escaped Castro's evil regime and hate Che Guevara live. 0.97

00:53:45.000 And it's just amazeballs. 0.99

00:53:48.000 It's so good.

00:53:49.000 So Bill de Blasio is on CNN saying, I didn't know that Che Guevara said that really.

00:53:54.000 So why did you use a direct quote from Che Guevara?

00:53:56.000 It's not like this is a famous phrase that people just sort of generally use.

00:53:59.000 It's a direct quote from Che Guevara.

00:54:03.000 Even Wolf Blitzer, who is not the brightest bulb in the basket, is able to basically demolish Bill de Blasio on national TV over this.

00:54:11.000 to a lot of Hispanics, especially those Cuban-Americans Well, Wolf, I understand that now.

00:54:19.000 And obviously, if I had understood the phrase's origin better, I would not have used it.

00:54:23.000 But it is simply a case of I literally understood it as a Spanish-language translation of something I was trying to say to these working people about the fact that I thought they would be victorious in the end.

00:54:33.000 And I apologize.

00:54:34.000 I think in life, you have to, as a leader, be able to say if you did something wrong, even if you didn't mean to, apologize and say, look, I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone.

00:54:42.000 I understand the sensitivities.

00:54:44.000 I've learned from that mistake.

00:54:47.000 Just really.

00:54:49.000 OK, so the fact that Bill de Blasio gets away with something like that is pretty sad, but he's not getting away with it.

00:54:55.000 Nobody is going anywhere with Bill de Blasio.

00:54:56.000 He's basically toast.

00:54:58.000 OK, so we'll be back here a little bit later today with two additional hours of content.

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00:55:53.000 Hey guys, over on the Matt Wall Show today, another debate.

00:55:56.000 We've got many more of these to go, unfortunately.

00:55:58.000 God help us.

00:56:00.000 We'll go over the highlights and, or I should say the lowlights of the debate, including, among other things, the Democrats all admitting that they want to give free health care to illegals, which is something that up until recently they denied.

00:56:12.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:56:14.000 And an especially disgusting article goes viral online featuring a woman bragging about all the times that she's cheated on her boyfriend and recommending that other people do the same.

The Ben Shapiro Show - June 28, 2019

Fight Night: Round 2 | Ep. 811

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