The Ben Shapiro Show - Glenn Beck | The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special Ep. 20

00:00:00.000 The word that you need to look for is chaos.

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00:00:17.000 So here we are on the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday special with Glenn Beck, and we're going to get into his new book, Addicted to Outrage, in just one second.

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00:01:31.000 Glenn Beck.

00:01:31.000 How are you?

00:01:32.000 Thanks for stopping by, dude.

00:01:32.000 I appreciate it.

00:01:33.000 Very good.

00:01:33.000 You bet.

00:01:34.000 Well, he has a brand new book out, does Glenn Beck, Addicted to Outrage, sure to be a New York Times bestseller like all of his other books are.

00:01:39.000 This one is really, you can tell, a labor of love.

00:01:41.000 First of all, it's longer than a lot of your other books.

00:01:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:01:43.000 And second of all, it really covers an enormous amount of ground.

00:01:45.000 What prompted you to write this book in the first place?

00:01:48.000 The last...

00:01:49.000 Four years, probably.

00:01:51.000 You know, I mean, Ben, we've talked about this before.

00:01:53.000 I kind of went into a depression of my job is to make sense of the world, and my job is to point to the exits.

00:02:00.000 They're here, here, and here.

00:02:03.000 And I couldn't point to the exits anymore.

00:02:05.000 I didn't understand the world we were living in anymore.

00:02:08.000 Uh, and people would ask, okay, so, okay, what do we do?

00:02:12.000 What do we do?

00:02:13.000 I got to a point to when, you know, there's 120 different genders.

00:02:17.000 I don't know, because I don't know where this is even coming from.

00:02:23.000 You know, four years ago, I'm thinking, okay, I just don't want to do this anymore because I don't have an answer.

00:02:28.000 Started doing my homework, started doing some research, started thinking differently, and really started to bone up on postmodernism and what's really happening.

00:02:37.000 Where is this coming from?

00:02:40.000 Once you find that and you see what the goal is of just straight-up deconstruction,

00:02:48.000 I can't think of a positive thing of postmodernism.

00:02:51.000 Not one.

00:02:52.000 It's all about taking apart the Western way of life and anything that came out of the Enlightenment.

00:02:58.000 It's really, hey everybody, let's go back to the Dark Ages.

00:03:02.000 Literally.

00:03:03.000 Would you agree?

00:03:03.000 I think there's some truth to that.

00:03:07.000 Yeah.

00:03:08.000 So, I can't think of a positive in that.

00:03:12.000 How do you sell that positively? 0.98

00:03:15.000 So when you start to understand that, you understand that there is no truth, there is no meaning, etc., etc., you start to understand maybe suicide rates, you start to understand why people are arguing back and forth, why people feel betrayed, why people feel like you're a hypocrite. 0.96

00:03:31.000 Wait, you were just saying this yesterday. 0.89

00:03:33.000 It's all postmodernism.

00:03:35.000 Once you know that,

00:03:37.000 Now what?

00:03:38.000 And so I've spent the last couple of years, and a solid year writing that, in fact it's the second time I wrote that book, just trying to say, okay, so now that we know that, we know their goal is chaos,

00:03:53.000 How do we diffuse that?

00:03:54.000 How do we take it apart?

00:03:54.000 And we're going at it at 180 degrees the wrong direction.

00:03:57.000 Do you think that the actual goal of the postmodernists is cast or do you think it's just a natural byproduct of their ideology?

00:04:03.000 Meaning that, to kind of steel man the case for postmodernism, basically what they would say is that we're all individuals who operate with certain linguistic

00:04:11.000 We're good to go.

00:04:26.000 So I think that's a really charitable viewpoint of it.

00:04:29.000 I think if you go back to the roots of what's being taught now, you go back to the 1960s and the Paris riots, where we're not making, we cannot destroy culture.

00:04:42.000 They thought they had it.

00:04:43.000 They had the Beatles, they thought.

00:04:45.000 They had all of the culture.

00:04:46.000 They had the hippie movement.

00:04:47.000 Everything was going their way.

00:04:48.000 Then it fell apart because they didn't have all of the levers to take Western culture down, okay?

00:04:56.000 And again, it's almost like what they learned at the Frankfurt School.

00:05:00.000 People in the West, they would describe us as, they're being bought off, they're being bribed.

00:05:06.000 They're not going to rise up because they're being hypnotized, brainwashed with their cars and their products and everything else.

00:05:11.000 They're not going to be the workers of the world unite and tear it down.

00:05:15.000 So when you look at it from that point of view, from the groups that got together in the 50s and then again in the 60s after the Paris riots, you then see that come and jump over here with the express plan of being a virus and to take down the Western way of life.

00:05:34.000 So is that, I mean, I guess the opposition would say maybe that's conspiratorial thinking.

00:05:38.000 Is it motivated, or is it just the way that things happen?

00:05:42.000 Like, are these people stating their case?

00:05:44.000 No, I think there's, see, this is the problem, you know, and there's no nuance in today's world anymore.

00:05:50.000 And that leaves us in a world of black and white, and that's not

00:05:54.000 The way things are.

00:05:56.000 There are those that look at postmodernism as some of the founders did of this particular strain of the movement that want to tear it apart because they are Marxist revolutionaries, okay?

00:06:12.000 There are others that look at this, you know, for literature and to be able to understand it, etc, etc.

00:06:17.000 They don't necessarily have the same goals.

00:06:20.000 In fact, I know professors who actually were Marxist until recently, and one of them is a guy who was postmodern literature and felt that there was meaning in there until recently.

00:06:34.000 Now he sees, wait a minute, the extreme is taking the wheel here.

00:06:41.000 It's not those of us who are like, no, there's some real meaning here, but it's the extreme.

00:06:45.000 And the extremes are the ones that have control.

00:06:50.000 So there's a lot in your title here, Addicted to Outrage.

00:06:53.000 I want to start with the first word and then we'll skip the conjunction and we'll get to the last word.

00:06:57.000 So the first word, addicted, you talk in the book about the idea that we have actually created an addiction to the feeling that we get, the sort of emotional high that we get from ripping other people down and feeling outraged

00:07:09.000 Sure.

00:07:09.000 Okay, so let's start with the addiction.

00:07:11.000 We know, I've talked to programmers and code writers for Facebook and Google and everything else.

00:07:15.000 They all will tell you.

00:07:29.000 If they're honest.

00:07:30.000 We wrote this with all the bells and whistles and we looked at each other and how can we get people to spend more time with us?

00:07:37.000 Okay?

00:07:38.000 Everybody does that.

00:07:39.000 It's not a bad thing.

00:07:40.000 It's... Cable News is doing that.

00:07:43.000 What do I do to get you to watch for another five minutes?

00:07:47.000 So, the device that we have now, you know, Facebook, Twitter, all of these things that we have,

00:07:54.000 You know, the slang word dope comes from dopamine, a hit that is naturally provided to us that we get that makes us feel good.

00:08:03.000 There's all kinds of these drugs that are in us that are natural and addictive.

00:08:09.000 And, you know, when you're not getting them, you start to become depressed.

00:08:13.000 When you are getting them, you're feeling good.

00:08:15.000 Every time you get a like, every time you get a retweet, every time you hear a buzz or a ding, you get a dopamine hit.

00:08:22.000 Somebody likes me.

00:08:25.000 The entire country used to say, these people in the media, all they're doing, they're only doing these things because they want the clicks.

00:08:33.000 Still, people will say that.

00:08:36.000 But no one is saying, what about you?

00:08:41.000 Because why are you saying this?

00:08:44.000 You're saying this because you want your tweet or your Facebook post to take off as well.

00:08:49.000 You're doing it for the clicks as well.

00:08:51.000 And because we keep getting this constant positive reinforcement of the negative that we put out, call them a name, you'll get more dopamine.

00:09:02.000 We become addicted to that rush and it feels good.

00:09:07.000 Without the addiction, it still kind of feels good for conservatives because no one has ever hit back for us.

00:09:17.000 And when you have been beaten and beaten and beaten for so long, and you think that the Western world is under attack and everything that you hold dear, and it's going to go away, 0.89

00:09:28.000 You look for somebody, if you've tried to play all of the fairways, you look for somebody who's going to come in and just go, I'm going to take you by the scruff of the neck and I'm going to take you out back and beat the snot out of you.

00:09:39.000 That's a problem because that adds to the chaos of our society. 0.70

00:09:43.000 We abandon our principles and principles are all we have.

00:09:48.000 If you look at Kavanaugh, what's happening with Kavanaugh?

00:09:54.000 Let's not talk about whether she's telling the truth or he's telling the truth.

00:09:59.000 Let's step back a bit and look at that and say, look, people on the right are calling her names. 0.65

00:10:06.000 People on the left are calling him names.

00:10:09.000 We're not going to get anywhere.

00:10:10.000 And all that's doing is reinforcing to each side, we're right and they're the enemy. 0.57

00:10:17.000 And the more you get aggravated and outraged by it, the harder you dig in because you're too vested in that now.

00:10:24.000 I'm going to believe her till the end of time.

00:10:27.000 I'm going to believe him till the end of time.

00:10:30.000 Meanwhile, we miss the principle.

00:10:34.000 You know better than most.

00:10:36.000 Look, there's criminal law, there's civil law, and then those things are based on our society.

00:10:43.000 What do we want as people that we think is fair?

00:10:47.000 What do we really believe is justice?

00:10:50.000 We've had a criminal court system that hasn't been just for a long time.

00:10:55.000 Back and forth, you know, it's got its problems.

00:10:57.000 Still, I think it's one of the best in the world, but it has its problems.

00:11:01.000 No one, no one, if you take politics out, if you take the Supreme Court justice or the Democratic charges, take that all out, and I come to you and say, Ben, how do you feel about living in a country where someone could make an accusation

00:11:19.000 Not know the facts, have zero evidence.

00:11:23.000 It's 37 years later.

00:11:26.000 The people that she did tell, the one, tells a slightly different story.

00:11:33.000 And at the critical point in your career, at the 11th hour, someone can make a charge and call you a rapist.

00:11:44.000 And we have to decide now whether you're a rapist, whether you can have a job, whether you're going to be in society or not, just based on do we like her or you better?

00:11:58.000 Which one's going to perform better on TV?

00:12:01.000 What do you think?

00:12:01.000 Is that a fair society?

00:12:02.000 Is that a just society?

00:12:04.000 Horrible!

00:12:05.000 Why aren't we talking about that?

00:12:09.000 We are arguing over these little things while the big principles are just crumbling.

00:12:14.000 Nobody wants to live in that society.

00:12:17.000 Last night in LA, I had a conversation with a guy who you would definitely know, everybody in the audience would know, who is a very left guy.

00:12:28.000 He sat in our apartment here while we were eating dinner.

00:12:33.000 I had dinner with a couple of friends and he came in.

00:12:37.000 He said, I can't keep up with my own side.

00:12:40.000 I'm constantly on the outs now because I can't keep up with them.

00:12:45.000 And you have to 100% buy into all of it.

00:12:48.000 This is dangerous.

00:12:50.000 This is dangerous.

00:12:51.000 When you have people who are prominent on the left saying, I think I need to say something,

00:13:00.000 That tells you that the absolute crazies are in control, and the average person doesn't want any part of it.

00:13:07.000 So, as I was asking before, so your own addiction and your background in the past, some people may not have heard that story, and I think it does lend some color to your talking about the dopamine hits and the addiction that we're all experiencing.

00:13:18.000 So, you know, my mom died when I was really young, and it just kind of took my life and turned it around.

00:13:28.000 I had been working in radio when I was 13.

00:13:33.000 And so I had this really bad toxic mixture of kind of being like you, but you've conquered this apparently.

00:13:41.000 I became a monster because everybody was like, oh my gosh, look how great he's going to be.

00:13:46.000 Imagine when he's 30.

00:13:47.000 You know, you heard all that.

00:13:49.000 I bought it and I became a monster.

00:13:53.000 And I hated myself. 0.80

00:13:58.000 And I started drinking and smoking pot every day.

00:14:03.000 15 years old.

00:14:05.000 Every day until I was 30.

00:14:09.000 Thirty years old, my life completely falls apart.

00:14:12.000 It was my 30th birthday, and I remember looking at the alarm clock, and it was about to turn midnight.

00:14:17.000 And it was the day of those old digital clocks where the numbers kind of floated almost, you know?

00:14:22.000 And I saw it turn midnight, and I said to myself, your life is about to change.

00:14:30.000 And I didn't know how yet.

00:14:33.000 But it took me three years to finally admit that I was an alcoholic because I was a very high-functioning alcoholic.

00:14:40.000 Most people didn't even know.

00:14:41.000 I was plowed all the time.

00:14:46.000 And so that's not what an alcoholic is.

00:14:48.000 An alcoholic is somebody who's lost all their money and they're a wino in the streets.

00:14:53.000 That's not what an alcoholic is. 1.00

00:14:54.000 And every day I would get up and I'd look at myself in the mirror and I would say, you're pathetic. 0.99

00:15:01.000 You said this time yesterday that you wouldn't drink today. 0.99

00:15:06.000 And what did you do?

00:15:07.000 I know, I know.

00:15:10.000 Not today.

00:15:11.000 Not today.

00:15:12.000 Sometime in the day, I found a very reasonable excuse to start drinking and doing drugs.

00:15:18.000 So I did.

00:15:19.000 Next day, say the same thing in the mirror.

00:15:20.000 It got so bad,

00:15:22.000 But I couldn't look at myself in the mirror anymore.

00:15:24.000 Every time I would go into the bathroom, any place, if there was a mirror, I either didn't use the sink or I opened the mirror so I couldn't see myself.

00:15:35.000 My daughter came down.

00:15:37.000 My two daughters had breakfast with me and I was having blackouts.

00:15:43.000 And, you know, it's not, you know, in the movies,

00:15:46.000 They make that funny and charming.

00:15:47.000 Oh, did we do that?

00:15:49.000 No, it's not funny and charming.

00:15:50.000 You know, your body is on autopilot and shut everything else down or it's going to die.

00:15:55.000 You know what I mean?

00:15:58.000 And so I was having blackouts, which will freak you out.

00:16:02.000 And my kids came down for breakfast one morning and they were sitting there and they said, Dad, tell us the story of Inky, Blinky and Stinky again.

00:16:11.000 And that was a story of three little mice that go to the Island of Cheese that I just made up every night.

00:16:19.000 And I realized, not only could I not remember the story, I don't remember even putting them to bed.

00:16:24.000 I don't remember being with them at all.

00:16:26.000 And I sat there in such shame, and I thought, what are you doing?

00:16:32.000 And I lied to my kids, and I said, I remember the story, but do you remember the story?

00:16:39.000 And as I fought back the tears over breakfast as they were telling me the story, all I'm thinking is, you gotta stop.

00:16:48.000 And so I went to AA, and I was in the

00:16:53.000 We're good to go.

00:17:14.000 But she was hysterical.

00:17:15.000 And she, you remember Night Court?

00:17:17.000 Yes.

00:17:17.000 Okay.

00:17:18.000 She was the bailiff.

00:17:19.000 Okay.

00:17:19.000 Remember the woman that talked like this?

00:17:21.000 That woman sounded like Selma Diamond, okay?

00:17:26.000 And she's this beautiful old woman in a sweater set in pearls.

00:17:29.000 And I stand up and I said, hi, my name is Glenn.

00:17:31.000 And I think, I don't know if I'm an alcoholic.

00:17:35.000 And everybody kind of laughed.

00:17:37.000 And somebody said, why do you feel that way?

00:17:41.000 I mean, you're here.

00:17:42.000 Pretty good indication.

00:17:43.000 And I said, well, because you don't look like alcoholics.

00:17:51.000 Without even turning around, she said, oh honey, we are all drunks in this room. 1.00

00:17:58.000 That one comment gave me permission that you can still

00:18:06.000 Be out of control in your life and not be in the gutter.

00:18:09.000 And I don't know why that was so hard for me, but I think in a way it's the same thing we're having here.

00:18:15.000 We don't, we know our lives, everything in our country is out of control.

00:18:21.000 Every day we look and we say, I'm going to get off Facebook.

00:18:25.000 I'm going to get off Twitter.

00:18:25.000 It's just too ugly.

00:18:26.000 I don't want to, we're doing it.

00:18:28.000 What's the difference?

00:18:30.000 We are addicted.

00:18:32.000 The companies are designing it for us to be addicted.

00:18:37.000 We want that, yeah, in our life.

00:18:41.000 We all know this isn't good.

00:18:44.000 The only difference here is I can't think of a good reason to drink.

00:18:48.000 We're excusing it because we're standing up for our country and no one wants to surrender in the most important fight maybe in the history of all mankind.

00:18:59.000 So how do we fight and fight the addiction at the same time?

00:19:03.000 Okay, we're going to talk a little bit about that, and I want to get to the other half of the title about outrage.

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00:20:17.000 Okay, Glenn, so I totally agree about the addiction.

00:20:19.000 I, myself, am a social media addict.

00:20:22.000 I'm particularly a Twitter addict.

00:20:25.000 Legitimately, over the weekend, I thought, I'm going to remove Twitter from my phone.

00:20:29.000 I'm just going to take it off my phone, because I go on my computer far less frequently than I have my phone on me, and it's a weekend, and I'm walking around with my kids, and I'm still checking the news, checking the news, just trying to check Twitter, and my wife said, why don't you just delete it off your phone?

00:20:39.000 I did, and then five hours later, I put it back on the phone, because obviously, you've got to know what's going on in the news.

00:20:44.000 I know, I know.

00:20:46.000 Especially if you run a news website.

00:20:47.000 That's my excuse that I run a news website, but I totally agree.

00:20:50.000 We are all addicted to social media, addicted to being in the moment.

00:20:54.000 And what that means, I used to think that it was the most informed people in America who were going to save the country.

00:20:59.000 And I've started to think maybe it's the least informed people in America who are going to save the country because those of us who are the most informed are busy smacking each other across the head on a routine basis.

00:21:07.000 But that brings us to the second half of the title, Outrage.

00:21:11.000 When we talk about how outraged we are at each other, some outrage obviously is legit, some outrage is not.

00:21:16.000 How do you distinguish which outrage is legitimate and which outrage is just us being outraged?

00:21:21.000 Well, there's a couple of things.

00:21:22.000 First of all, let's go back to Kavanaugh.

00:21:26.000 Do you really think that the Democrats believe the woman who was

00:21:32.000 was saying this about Kavanaugh.

00:21:34.000 Because if you did, why'd you hold on to it for weeks?

00:21:37.000 Why'd you do it at the 11th hour?

00:21:38.000 Why didn't you insist the FBI was involved right away?

00:21:43.000 If it was about her, not the process, you would have handled it differently.

00:21:49.000 There are so many things that people are absolutely outraged about.

00:21:53.000 The one I quote in the book is the border.

00:21:58.000 Ben, you know me, I was at the border when Obama was putting those people into the cages, taking the children.

00:22:06.000 My thing was, they're not only taking away from their families, they're separating the children.

00:22:12.000 So a group of children come, they're brothers and sisters, well you're 10, you're 7, you go in that cage and you're in this building.

00:22:19.000 Oh my gosh, can you imagine being a seven-year-old girl and separated from your brother in another country?

00:22:24.000 How horrible.

00:22:26.000 The Border Patrol agents were coming to me and saying, can you get the press to even listen to this?

00:22:34.000 I'm telling you, this is horrible.

00:22:36.000 No, I can't get the press.

00:22:37.000 I can't get the press.

00:22:39.000 I tried.

00:22:40.000 I called everybody in the press.

00:22:42.000 No one cared. 0.94

00:22:43.000 Your own side killed you for it.

00:22:45.000 And my own side killed me for it.

00:22:49.000 Courage doesn't count when you take on your enemies.

00:22:55.000 Courage only counts when you stand up to your friends and go, brother, come on, you're better than this.

00:23:03.000 So, nobody would listen to it.

00:23:06.000 Then all of a sudden, they discover a picture taken from that time period, and they're morally outraged.

00:23:12.000 They just can't take it. 0.99

00:23:13.000 Then they are like, oh, oh, crap. 0.99

00:23:15.000 Okay, make excuse, make excuse. 0.99

00:23:17.000 Oh, well, look at what's happening now.

00:23:20.000 Okay, well, how about the separation of the kids?

00:23:23.000 How about that one?

00:23:25.000 Is anyone talking to you about how they're taking brothers and sisters and still separating them and the trauma that that might cause?

00:23:33.000 No.

00:23:33.000 They don't care.

00:23:34.000 They have one line.

00:23:36.000 They didn't care then.

00:23:37.000 They only care right now because it's political expediency.

00:23:41.000 On top of that, what's the answer?

00:23:44.000 What's the answer?

00:23:46.000 The answer is you must stop the chaos at the border, which means you have to go to the countries and say, we as the United States of America want to make it really clear.

00:23:59.000 Every single person that comes across our border 1.00

00:24:02.000 We'll go home.

00:24:03.000 Period.

00:24:04.000 Do not send your kids.

00:24:06.000 If you are a refugee, if there is something going on, there is a system, go to the United States Embassy.

00:24:13.000 Here are the things that we look for for refugee status.

00:24:16.000 We are a nation that brings refugees in for safety.

00:24:21.000 We have every intention of continuing that for real refugees.

00:24:27.000 No more chaos.

00:24:28.000 That's the way you fix it, but nobody's interested in fixing it.

00:24:32.000 Are people really outraged by the shooting in Parkland?

00:24:37.000 Are they really outraged by it?

00:24:41.000 Or are they seeing an opportunity to divide us on the one subject, that and abortion.

00:24:51.000 We're not changing, okay?

00:24:52.000 Half of the country, and abortion is even weaker than this,

00:24:57.000 The Second Amendment is the Second Amendment to a good number of people in the country.

00:25:02.000 A good number of people don't care about guns.

00:25:04.000 They want to change it.

00:25:05.000 It's not going anywhere.

00:25:07.000 Our children are at risk.

00:25:09.000 Actually, as the book points out, we're not.

00:25:12.000 The lowest shootings, you know, school shootings, I think in the last 30 years, it's down.

00:25:19.000 It's a rapid decline.

00:25:21.000 Safer now than it was in the 90s or the 80s in schools.

00:25:26.000 So, but if you really cared, we would do something about it.

00:25:30.000 If the parents in Parkland, and I just asked one of the parents this just recently and they didn't give me an answer.

00:25:37.000 I mean, no disrespect, but if I was a parent in the Parkland school district,

00:25:43.000 I would have, and I didn't believe in guns, I would have been doing the thing about guns, but I also would have demanded the resignation of the sheriff.

00:25:52.000 I would have demanded a change at the school board.

00:25:55.000 I would have demanded changes at the school.

00:25:59.000 They haven't done any of that.

00:26:01.000 So, is this really about children dying or is this about politics?

00:26:09.000 I can't have, I can't, I don't want to be a part of a society that's using things that are so, stop using our emotions.

00:26:20.000 Stop playing on our emotions.

00:26:22.000 It's either real or it's not.

00:26:24.000 They accused me of playing on people's emotions when I said the caliphate was coming.

00:26:29.000 Look what happened.

00:26:31.000 There are things that you can look at because you'll take people at their word and say, no, they really mean it.

00:26:38.000 They're going to try to do this.

00:26:40.000 And you can warn people.

00:26:41.000 That's not preying on their emotions.

00:26:45.000 That is just telling the truth and saying, I think, if you look at these things, 2 plus 2 equals 4.

00:26:51.000 I think this is where we're headed.

00:26:53.000 The other is, I'm just going to say these things.

00:26:56.000 Because I can twist them into that, make you feel like the boogeyman's coming, so you run to me.

00:27:01.000 Both sides are doing it.

00:27:02.000 And it's going to be the death of us, Ben.

00:27:05.000 Do you think that it's a question of the sincerity, or do you think that it's a question of people who are legitimately outraged, but for different purposes?

00:27:12.000 Meaning that, you know, it's easy for me to sit here and say, you know, if a parent in Parkland really cared, they'd do something about the Sheriff Scott Israel.

00:27:19.000 Totally agree with that, obviously. 0.99

00:27:21.000 But what if there's a parent in Parkland, and they think, yeah, you know, there's the Scott Israel issue, and sure, he's a schmuck, 0.97

00:27:26.000 I'm much more concerned that kids all over the country are really being scared. 0.94

00:27:30.000 How do we decide whether the person's outrage is legitimate or whether the person is being manipulative?

00:27:35.000 And is it possible that in misreading that motivation we could be contributing to part of the problem as well?

00:27:41.000 So this is why our system of government is wholly inadequate for immoral and irreligious people. 1.00

00:27:50.000 People are trying to tear down capitalism.

00:27:54.000 First of all, capitalism, as I outline extensively in the book, has changed the world.

00:27:59.000 I mean, this is the greatest time, even with all of our problems, Donald Trump and Barack Obama's America, the best time and the best place to be alive in all of human history.

00:28:10.000 So please, pipe down.

00:28:13.000 But you look at capitalism and you say capitalism is bad.

00:28:16.000 Well, that's because you forgot the first half, moral sentiments.

00:28:23.000 If you just read Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations, you'll understand the invisible hand.

00:28:27.000 But you will not understand what an immoral population will do with that invisible hand.

00:28:34.000 It will come and it will choke the life out of people.

00:28:37.000 So you have to be a decent people.

00:28:41.000 I still believe that most Americans, right and left, are decent.

00:28:46.000 Not all.

00:28:48.000 Never.

00:28:49.000 But they're decent.

00:28:50.000 They don't want to destroy somebody else, and they don't want to, you know, my way or the highway. 0.97

00:28:55.000 I don't want any Jews or blacks or conservatives or liberals or homosexuals or cisgender whatever. 1.00

00:29:04.000 They don't want that. 0.99

00:29:05.000 They just want to live next to each other and raise their families.

00:29:08.000 Don't tell me what to do.

00:29:10.000 I won't tell you what to do.

00:29:11.000 Let's just, let's just live our life.

00:29:15.000 We have to return to that, because I can't tell you who's telling you the truth and who's not, who's really outraged.

00:29:23.000 I know that there's two things on outrage going on right now.

00:29:28.000 Some people are not outraged, and I would say that if it's involved in politics,

00:29:34.000 It's most likely not true.

00:29:39.000 Then there are the people that are absolutely true, that were the, I gotta give him a trophy, I have to give him a ribbon, everybody wins, oh, everybody's so special, that are just coming out of college now.

00:29:51.000 They actually believe that they're outraged.

00:29:54.000 They really are outraged.

00:29:56.000 But those people need to be told, you gotta get over it.

00:30:00.000 You gotta get, you gotta get a life.

00:30:02.000 Because what, you know, as Jonathan Haidt says in his new book, Coddling of American Mind, you have, your parents and society has prepared the road for you.

00:30:17.000 That's not reality.

00:30:20.000 They should have prepared you for the road.

00:30:23.000 And what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

00:30:30.000 But right now we live in a society that says the opposite.

00:30:34.000 What doesn't kill you makes you weaker.

00:30:35.000 And we've got to avoid all of that stuff.

00:30:37.000 No!

00:30:38.000 No.

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00:32:01.000 Okay, Glenn, so you've... I'm sure the number one question you're gonna get asked about this book is, here you're saying that we are addicted to outrage, but you're Glenn Beck.

00:32:10.000 I'm sure this is the question that you're going to get most frequently, particularly from folks on the left.

00:32:14.000 Aren't you that guy who was doing chalkboards on Fox?

00:32:16.000 And you talk in the book a little bit about, you know, what you think of those days and where you think you're right and where you think you're wrong.

00:32:21.000 So let me ask you, what do you think was right and what do you think was wrong there?

00:32:25.000 I think I was right on the direction.

00:32:26.000 I mean, you know, pretty much everything that I was writing on those chalkboards, pretty much it's happened.

00:32:34.000 Where I was wrong, but I want to put it into context, was possibly the presentation.

00:32:43.000 You work at Fox.

00:32:46.000 What's your job at Fox?

00:32:48.000 To get ratings, presumably.

00:32:49.000 Correct.

00:32:50.000 To get ratings.

00:32:51.000 If you don't get ratings, how long are you going to last?

00:32:52.000 Not long.

00:32:53.000 Okay.

00:32:54.000 That's what they hire you for.

00:32:56.000 Get ratings.

00:32:58.000 Because I know who you are, and you know who I am.

00:33:01.000 Tell the truth, okay?

00:33:04.000 As you perceive it.

00:33:06.000 I am a... I'm an entertainer.

00:33:10.000 I grew up as a kid listening to Orson Welles.

00:33:13.000 I mean, I love theater of the mind.

00:33:15.000 I love it.

00:33:16.000 I know how to stunt.

00:33:19.000 I know how I can take a live frog, you know, cut to tape, replace it with a plastic frog, throw it in boiling water, and it'll set the world on fire.

00:33:32.000 But people are watching.

00:33:35.000 Because they see that, they'll also hear the truth.

00:33:39.000 My problem was, I honestly believed, that's how naive I was, I honestly believed that if I could get members of the press to actually hear on a day-after-day basis facts, real facts, honest questioning, saying,

00:34:00.000 Don't trust me.

00:34:01.000 I was saying this for the press as much as the average individual.

00:34:05.000 Do not take my word for it.

00:34:07.000 Look this up for yourself.

00:34:09.000 I'm begging the press.

00:34:11.000 Look it up for yourself.

00:34:13.000 This is not crazy conspiracy talk.

00:34:15.000 This is what's happening right now.

00:34:18.000 And you don't have to condemn it, but we should recognize it and answer for it.

00:34:25.000 They don't care.

00:34:28.000 And they've gone dead inside.

00:34:32.000 You can talk to people about some of the bigger concepts of what we're facing.

00:34:41.000 None of them know what they're talking about.

00:34:43.000 None of them.

00:34:43.000 Their eyes just glaze over.

00:34:46.000 They're not intellectually curious.

00:34:48.000 They think their responsibility is to parrot

00:34:52.000 Whatever it is the party is saying, and I saw this on both sides.

00:34:57.000 I mean, I worked at CNN and Fox.

00:34:59.000 I know both of them inside and out.

00:35:02.000 It's not that different.

00:35:04.000 It's not that different.

00:35:06.000 At Fox, I had pure independence.

00:35:10.000 You know, they tried to do things, but, you know, I was smart enough to set up my contract the way it was.

00:35:19.000 It's all about parties.

00:35:20.000 It's all about parties.

00:35:21.000 And when I left there, you can't be—I went from the third or fourth most admired man in the world.

00:35:31.000 Think of that.

00:35:32.000 I mean, I remember when I saw that.

00:35:34.000 AP does that survey every year.

00:35:37.000 I was between Nelson Mandela, and I think I was actually not between them.

00:35:43.000 It was Nelson Mandela, me and the Pope tied for third or fourth place.

00:35:48.000 Me and the Pope, okay?

00:35:50.000 And my family and I, we read that and we're like, this is hysterical, okay?

00:35:55.000 How off-center is America when I'm even near that, when I'm handing that list to somebody?

00:36:03.000 The very next year, one of the most hated men in America.

00:36:06.000 I didn't change anything.

00:36:08.000 I changed networks.

00:36:11.000 I did the same show on CNN as I did on Fox.

00:36:16.000 I changed networks and that's what happens?

00:36:19.000 Wait a minute.

00:36:20.000 Time goes on.

00:36:22.000 You're getting beaten as badly as I was beaten.

00:36:26.000 Called all kinds of names, your children, my children were accosted in the park, several parks, many different states, from Alaska to Hawaii to New York.

00:36:37.000 The park experience, you say park to any of my kids and they're like, no, let's not go to the park.

00:36:42.000 So you can't go into that position and then not say, which guy am I?

00:36:50.000 I know I'm not Nelson Mandela and the Pope, so dismiss that.

00:36:56.000 But I'm not that guy either.

00:36:58.000 And it's easy to say, well, that's the media.

00:37:02.000 That's the media for you.

00:37:03.000 That's George Soros for you.

00:37:05.000 No, that's part of it and a big part of it.

00:37:09.000 But I played a role in that too.

00:37:12.000 And the role I played was not recognizing the time that we were in.

00:37:23.000 And not knowing how high the stakes were of the people I was playing against.

00:37:31.000 You know, you're not going to win.

00:37:34.000 And so playing, you know, being in Lederhosen and, you know, doing all the crazy things that we did, I don't regret any of it.

00:37:43.000 I don't regret really almost anything I said, even the president being a racist.

00:37:49.000 You read the book last night.

00:37:50.000 Yep.

00:37:51.000 Well, you clarified it in, like, the next sentence.

00:37:52.000 It makes sense to you?

00:37:54.000 Sure.

00:37:54.000 Yeah.

00:37:55.000 And if you don't know— I said very similar things.

00:37:58.000 I said very similar things at the time.

00:37:59.000 Right. 0.82

00:38:00.000 And what I said was, he's racist.

00:38:02.000 Well, no, he's not. 0.97

00:38:02.000 He just has a real deep-seated hatred for the white culture. 0.97

00:38:05.000 Well, I couldn't verbalize it at the time because it's 2008.

00:38:09.000 I know I've got Jeremiah Wright sitting out there who doesn't like the white culture, doesn't like America, the history of America.

00:38:17.000 So, but what is that?

00:38:19.000 Is that racism?

00:38:20.000 No.

00:38:21.000 No, it's actually post-modernism. 0.99

00:38:23.000 It's all of this crap that's out there. 0.99

00:38:26.000 And so when you're asking me, is he racist? 1.00

00:38:29.000 That was what I grabbed at, just like I think people are grabbing at Donald Trump's a racist.

00:38:36.000 Donald Trump's not a racist.

00:38:37.000 He's not a racist.

00:38:39.000 I don't think.

00:38:40.000 What he is,

00:38:42.000 Or what, I should say, what people like Don Lemon, I think, and I don't know, I've not talked to Don about this, but to give him the benefit of the doubt, let's reverse the roles.

00:38:51.000 I just went through this, okay?

00:38:53.000 You didn't understand because I didn't understand what I was trying to say.

00:38:57.000 Somebody is, he's got this thing where he wants to deconstruct the Western way of life.

00:39:04.000 All the people around him want to deconstruct.

00:39:06.000 Okay.

00:39:07.000 He's a postmodernist.

00:39:09.000 He's not racist.

00:39:10.000 Postmodernist, okay?

00:39:13.000 What Don fails to see, and really kind of what I failed to see during the last election, was people feel, you know, when you're in, where is it, Norway, I think, or Sweden, you can't fly the Swedish flag.

00:39:30.000 If you fly the Swedish flag, I think it's Sweden, you will be called a racist because you have to fly the EU flag.

00:39:37.000 Well, no.

00:39:38.000 When I went to Sweden a couple of years ago, I talked to somebody and they said, well, you know, it's nothing special.

00:39:43.000 I said, this isn't special?

00:39:47.000 Have you been to Copenhagen?

00:39:48.000 Have you been to Sweden before?

00:39:49.000 No.

00:39:49.000 Okay.

00:39:50.000 Go.

00:39:51.000 It's like gingerbread houses.

00:39:53.000 It's the greatest architecture.

00:39:54.000 It's completely unique, completely different.

00:39:58.000 It is really cool.

00:39:59.000 And I sat there.

00:40:00.000 I was on the street with somebody.

00:40:01.000 I said, you don't see how unique this is?

00:40:05.000 Don't be ashamed of your culture, your history.

00:40:08.000 This is great.

00:40:09.000 And you can't find it anywhere else.

00:40:12.000 It doesn't mean it's better than anything else.

00:40:14.000 It just means it is different.

00:40:15.000 Be proud of your culture.

00:40:18.000 You can't do that.

00:40:20.000 Well, people want that.

00:40:21.000 They're proud of where we came from, what we struggled through.

00:40:25.000 We should be ashamed of the appropriate things in our history that we're ashamed of.

00:40:29.000 But you can't just erase all of that.

00:40:32.000 So when people are saying, hey, my culture matters.

00:40:36.000 What people on the left here is racist.

00:40:40.000 You're trying to erase my past and my heritage.

00:40:44.000 Oh, you like slavery?

00:40:46.000 No, that's not what I'm saying.

00:40:48.000 But that's what people on the left associate.

00:40:50.000 So, when Don Lemon says, well, he likes racists because look at the language he is using.

00:40:55.000 You know, the culture is being erased.

00:40:58.000 You know, our heritage is important.

00:41:00.000 Yes, it is.

00:41:03.000 But it means different things to different people.

00:41:06.000 So, back away from the cliff.

00:41:11.000 Let's try to understand each other's language, and then we can condemn each other.

00:41:16.000 But do it on actual, tangible things.

00:41:21.000 Truth.

00:41:22.000 So, in the last few years, you've been saying a lot of things that are honest, because you're a really honest guy, or an emotionally open guy, and an honest guy, and that's ticked off a lot of people on your own side.

00:41:30.000 How has that been, number one?

00:41:32.000 And number two,

00:41:33.000 What's the response of people on the left been to the quote-unquote New Glenn Beck, the kind of attempts to reach across the aisle and have discussions?

00:41:40.000 Because I can imagine that while you are opening, you're putting out an open hand, I can't imagine that in every case, certainly not publicly, there are people who are actually taking it.

00:41:50.000 Oh publicly, no.

00:41:51.000 The worst, the most shameful on the left I think is GLAAD.

00:41:57.000 I went to go see the president of GLAAD and her crew.

00:42:03.000 She came into my office in New York City and I called for the meeting and I said, just leave your arms at home and can we just come and talk? 0.81

00:42:17.000 And I started the meeting and I said, look, everyone, everyone on my side will hate me for this, will hate me for this.

00:42:25.000 I don't agree with anything that you guys do, okay?

00:42:29.000 I think you're a very militant group.

00:42:32.000 However, 1.00

00:42:33.000 Right now, in Russia, they are abusing homosexuals, abducting them, killing them, taking their driver's license away. 0.99

00:42:43.000 This is at the time, what, five years ago. 0.99

00:42:46.000 It was getting really ugly. 0.98

00:42:48.000 In Iran, they're throwing homosexuals off the rooftops of buildings. 0.99

00:42:54.000 People need to be brave. 0.98

00:42:56.000 And people need to say, look,

00:42:59.000 Ben, in our case, it's not that wide, but I need Penn Jillette to be able to stand next to the Pope and have both of them say, look, there's a lot of huge things we disagree with, but there's a couple of principles that we do. 0.98

00:43:16.000 And for GLAAD and Glenn Beck to stand next to each other and say, killing homosexuals is wrong.

00:43:26.000 We've just taken a big chip off the table of both sides, okay? 0.99

00:43:31.000 We've lowered the temperature and we can talk.

00:43:35.000 Spend an hour showing them the picture, showing them the news of all around the world where we could agree all they wanted to talk about were wedding cakes.

00:43:44.000 And I got so frustrated, I just said, do you care about wedding cakes or saving the lives of people?

00:43:55.000 They cared about wedding cakes.

00:43:59.000 I have decided that if you're in politics, I don't know, I'm not going to you for honest brokering.

00:44:10.000 Somebody came out here to L.A.

00:44:12.000 and somebody, very big VC guy, had listened to me at one point and I went into a conference

00:44:25.000 About a thousand people there, all lefties, all high-tech.

00:44:30.000 And I started my speech, I had 20 minutes, and I said, let me just start here.

00:44:36.000 Raise your hand, and don't be shy, and they weren't.

00:44:39.000 Raise your hand if you think you hate me.

00:44:43.000 Literally, 95, 98%, okay?

00:44:45.000 Everybody.

00:44:46.000 And I was like, okay, well, you're not shy.

00:44:48.000 Give me 20 minutes.

00:44:52.000 And I never changed a principle.

00:44:54.000 I used Jonathan Haidt's book of The Righteous Mind.

00:45:00.000 I just started to speak their language.

00:45:05.000 Without changing my principles.

00:45:07.000 And I did the most important thing any of us can do.

00:45:10.000 Start with an apology or some place where you got it wrong.

00:45:16.000 I did.

00:45:17.000 At the end, I think it was only my family that was raising their hands.

00:45:22.000 I asked the same thing, and it was maybe 5%.

00:45:25.000 It was an exact flip of the room in 20 minutes.

00:45:30.000 And that's only because I'm trying to hear them.

00:45:34.000 My mistake during the Trump run-up, I became so strident.

00:45:42.000 Because I was certain who he was.

00:45:45.000 Well, as it turns out, he is, in some degrees, who I thought he was, or worse.

00:45:52.000 In some ways, he's a miracle, okay?

00:45:56.000 You know, he is both sides.

00:46:01.000 But I was so positive that he would have nothing good, and I wasn't listening to people.

00:46:09.000 We used to respect people.

00:46:14.000 We don't respect them anymore.

00:46:16.000 And that is stopping us from doing what people who respect each other.

00:46:22.000 Ben, I know if you walk down the hall and you start cussing people out, that's so unlike you, that somebody will say, Ben, is something going on?

00:46:33.000 What's going on?

00:46:34.000 Right?

00:46:36.000 So America starts acting irrationally, start going in a direction they've always said they would never go, and I didn't say, what's happening?

00:46:50.000 What is happening in your life?

00:46:52.000 It's why the media is still missing the Trump voter.

00:46:56.000 They're unwilling to ask, so what is it?

00:47:00.000 And listen and accept the answer.

00:47:02.000 It may not be the answer you're looking for, but it is the answer.

00:47:07.000 Live in the world you actually live in, or live in some fantasy world.

00:47:13.000 I choose to live in the world that's actually existing.

00:47:16.000 Listen to people.

00:47:18.000 So, you talk a lot about, in the book, outrage and the culture of outrage, but then you talk about, you know, the serious problems that outrage is preventing us from discussing.

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00:48:40.000 Okay, so Glenn, you talk.

00:48:42.000 I have to tell you, I understand why Steven Crowder didn't wear pants.

00:48:47.000 It is the fires of hell hot in here.

00:48:49.000 Oh yeah.

00:48:50.000 How are you wearing a jacket?

00:48:52.000 I'm wearing a jacket because you're wearing a jacket.

00:48:54.000 Oh, I thought I was wearing a jacket because you're wearing a jacket to be honest with you.

00:48:57.000 I don't know who started this jacket fight, but suddenly we're stuck with it.

00:49:01.000 Mainly I turn up the heat so that it looks like I'm really grilling you.

00:49:03.000 Yeah, I know.

00:49:04.000 When you start sweating like Richard Nixon in 1960, I can see it was all my questioning.

00:49:09.000 You know, you talk here about, you know, the fact that we're engaged with outrage, and I've said on my program a thousand times that, as you say, we're living in the best time in human history.

00:49:16.000 If you could be born any time, you'd want to be born... Right now.

00:49:18.000 Right now.

00:49:19.000 But we're angry at each other, but we are, because of that anger, missing some really deep problems.

00:49:24.000 So what are the deep problems?

00:49:25.000 Not just the outrage culture, what are the deep problems we're missing that we're going to have to figure out solutions for over the next 10-15 years?

00:49:31.000 So I lay out about, I don't know, five or ten of them that I think are

00:49:36.000 are we're absolutely going to have to deal with.

00:49:41.000 Anywhere from, what is life?

00:49:45.000 You know, is AI, AGI, ASI, is that going to claim to be life and will we accept that?

00:49:53.000 You know, they just turned a sex robot around at the Canadian border from Japan. 0.82

00:49:59.000 You can't import sex robots that look like children, okay? 0.99

00:50:04.000 So, you have a sex robot. 1.00

00:50:09.000 Is that good for pedophiles? 0.97

00:50:14.000 Would it be good to have them get it out on a robot?

00:50:20.000 Or is that bad?

00:50:22.000 Discussion's going on.

00:50:23.000 Nobody knows about it.

00:50:25.000 How about the... I think it's called the smart machine.

00:50:29.000 I can't remember.

00:50:30.000 MIT is doing it.

00:50:31.000 And it's online.

00:50:33.000 And they're asking you to go online and just take some quizzes.

00:50:36.000 And what this quiz is, is the value of life.

00:50:40.000 You're in a car.

00:50:42.000 It's an auto drive.

00:50:45.000 You're in the car, and there's a car in front of you.

00:50:47.000 It's just slammed on the brakes.

00:50:49.000 If you swerve this way, you're going to hit a nun and two kids. 0.99

00:50:55.000 If you swerve this way, you're going to go into the other sidewalk, and you're going to hit a whole bunch of kids and puppy dogs.

00:51:06.000 If you go straight, you're going to hit Elon Musk and Steve Jobs.

00:51:12.000 Okay?

00:51:13.000 What do you do?

00:51:14.000 Now they're asking people online.

00:51:18.000 Then the rest of the brilliant elites are programming based a little bit of what's online and the debate that's going on right now that we're not a part of.

00:51:30.000 Here's the problem.

00:51:31.000 The computer in the car will know who's in the car in front of you.

00:51:37.000 But as it says in this survey, it can know who they are, what they do, what they contribute to society, how many, if any, they employ, how many benefits they're getting from the government, how their health is.

00:51:55.000 It can calculate all of that as it makes a decision.

00:51:59.000 Well, now there is no random strike.

00:52:04.000 Now we are saying who's worth something and who's not.

00:52:09.000 Bain Capital came out a few months ago, said, by 2030, we will have 30% unemployment.

00:52:18.000 That is the Great Depression.

00:52:20.000 Here's the thing, it's permanent unemployment.

00:52:24.000 There is no going back.

00:52:26.000 We have a society right now that is saying, hey, look at the job numbers, look how low, huh?

00:52:30.000 Unemployment's low, historic lows.

00:52:33.000 Well, you have Silicon Valley right now working on devices and algorithms and machines that are, their goal is 100% unemployment.

00:52:42.000 So, what gives your life meaning?

00:52:51.000 What does that mean when that transition starts to hit?

00:52:54.000 What do you do with the people who the truck drivers are going to be the first?

00:52:58.000 Uber drivers, cab drivers, truck drivers are the first.

00:53:01.000 What happens when that's displaced?

00:53:03.000 Because in most states, number one job, truck driving.

00:53:06.000 So, how many people does that affect?

00:53:09.000 What do you do for civil society?

00:53:11.000 The universal basic income, something I don't believe in, but what do we do about that?

00:53:19.000 Is that right for the future?

00:53:21.000 We can't have a universal basic income conversation because

00:53:27.000 To a conservative, that sounds like socialism, not capitalism.

00:53:32.000 Socialism.

00:53:33.000 We don't want socialism.

00:53:34.000 We don't want communism.

00:53:36.000 But the world is changing.

00:53:38.000 So how do we bring our guard down, bring their guard down, and actually talk about it without bringing politics into it, and see what is right?

00:53:50.000 On top of that, you have

00:53:53.000 Radicalized Islam. 1.00

00:53:54.000 You have the mullahs in Iran who are dead set on destroying Israel. 1.00

00:54:01.000 They believe in something called the 12th Imam, the Mahi, which they say is living among us now.

00:54:08.000 He's like our Jesus, if you will.

00:54:13.000 Not your Jesus. 0.55

00:54:14.000 Your Jesus.

00:54:16.000 Whose coming back at the end of days.

00:54:17.000 But this one can be brought back by washing the world in blood and causing chaos.

00:54:23.000 The reason why I bring that up, chaos is the operative word, and I said this when I was on Fox.

00:54:28.000 The word that you need to look for and then you need to be aware of is chaos.

00:54:34.000 If what you're doing is causing chaos, you are going to be part of the problem.

00:54:40.000 They're looking for chaos.

00:54:41.000 A guy named Alexander Dugin in Russia.

00:54:47.000 Only one reporter in the Washington Post is on this guy.

00:54:51.000 Nobody is on this guy.

00:54:53.000 He has started something called the World National Conservative Movement.

00:54:57.000 This is a fascistic movement based on what he calls the fourth political theory.

00:55:04.000 The symbol of his fourth political theory is the ancient symbol of chaos.

00:55:07.000 He believes, literally, we have to go through Armageddon to be able to reset the world.

00:55:16.000 Then you have the Marxists revolutionaries here that want to reset the world, to reset the West, and then start all over again.

00:55:27.000 We're being pulled by all these forces of chaos and nobody's recognizing it.

00:55:33.000 We're arguing on the smallest little things that don't matter.

00:55:36.000 Wedding cakes. 0.99

00:55:37.000 Shut up about wedding cakes! 1.00

00:55:40.000 How about the bigger principles? 0.99

00:55:42.000 We've got to get back to the bigger principles.

00:55:44.000 So that's my final question for you, which is, what are those bigger principles that we have to unify around?

00:55:50.000 Like, where do we unify around this?

00:55:51.000 I'm going to ask you that, but that is our final question.

00:55:54.000 And if you want to hear Glenn's answer, you actually have to be a Daily Wire subscriber.

00:55:57.000 See, that's how he pitches.

00:55:58.000 Oh my gosh.

00:55:59.000 Check that out, right? 0.99

00:55:59.000 You evil capitalist. 0.99

00:56:00.000 Yeah, look at that. 0.94

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00:56:03.000 You can hear the end of our conversation there.

00:56:05.000 Otherwise, we're going to leave you in this abysmal darkness.

00:56:08.000 So, it's all up to you.

00:56:10.000 Glenn, what are these values that we need to center around?

00:56:14.000 This is where you should cut it right after the sentence.

00:56:16.000 I've spent four years trying to figure that one out.

00:56:22.000 Here's the answer.

00:56:23.000 Well, the book is addicted to outrage.

00:56:24.000 Glenn Beck, one of the foremost thinkers in the country.

00:56:27.000 Glenn, thanks so much for stopping by.

00:56:28.000 I really appreciate it.

00:56:28.000 Thank you.

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