The Ben Shapiro Show - Goodbye To A Hero | Ep. 611

00:00:00.000 Senator John McCain dies, the media rewrites history, and a mass shooting takes place in Jacksonville.

00:00:05.000 We'll talk all about it.

00:00:05.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:06.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:12.000 A somber weekend with the death of Senator John McCain, dead at the age of 81.

00:00:15.000 He died on Saturday.

00:00:17.000 I found out about it right after Sabbath.

00:00:19.000 I have a lot of thoughts.

00:00:20.000 Also, there's a lot of fallout in the media sphere, in the political sphere.

00:00:22.000 We'll get to all of that first.

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00:01:17.000 So the big story over the weekend, obviously, was the death of Senator John McCain.

00:01:20.000 Senator McCain served for, I believe, 35 years in the Senate.

00:01:23.000 He became famous not because of that, but because he did five years in a North Vietnamese prison.

00:01:44.000 The man truly was an American hero despite the fact that there are many who would say otherwise for no reason other than petty spite.

00:01:50.000 The fact is that anyone who serves in uniform and then does five years in a North Vietnamese prison and then gives up their opportunity to come home in order to maintain

00:02:01.000 A solidarity with the troops who are already there.

00:02:03.000 That is an American hero.

00:02:04.000 John McCain did two years in solitary confinement under the North Vietnamese, under the Viet Cong.

00:02:09.000 When he came out, he had essentially been physically crippled.

00:02:12.000 His hair was completely white.

00:02:14.000 Here is a clip of John McCain talking about his torture at the hands of the North Vietnamese.

00:02:20.000 Historians have said that no American prisoner arrived at the Hanoi Hilton in worse condition than McCain.

00:02:26.000 Broke my shoulder and hurt my knee again.

00:02:32.000 But look, I don't blame them.

00:02:35.000 I don't blame them.

00:02:36.000 We're in a war.

00:02:38.000 I didn't like it, but at the same time,

00:02:44.000 When you're in a war and you're captured by the enemy, you can't expect, you know, to have tea.

00:02:53.000 And when he crashed landed, the North Vietnamese denied him medical aid and they stabbed him with a bayonet as well.

00:03:00.000 Then they proceeded to torture him for years and years and years for information.

00:03:03.000 And then they tried to leverage him.

00:03:05.000 They tried to use him as a propaganda tool.

00:03:07.000 They wanted to return him to the United States because his father was an admiral and thereby create the narrative that the United States gave preferential treatment to the children of the privileged.

00:03:17.000 McCain turned that down and instead stayed under the gentle mercies

00:03:21.000 I don't know.

00:03:36.000 Was amazing politically?

00:03:38.000 No, I disagreed with John McCain routinely.

00:03:40.000 Most recently when John McCain gave the thumbs down to what they called skinny repeal, the repeal of large parts of the Obamacare package, including the individual mandate.

00:03:49.000 And he said he did that because he didn't approve of the way the Senate was running.

00:03:52.000 He was a guy who was constantly talking about the rules of the Senate, even though the Democrats were constantly breaking those rules.

00:03:58.000 But John McCain overall understood that America was an exceptional place and he put his life on the line.

00:04:03.000 In order to prove that America was an exceptional place, he certainly understood the threat that was posed to America by outside actors.

00:04:09.000 He understood the threat that was posed to America by places like Russia. 0.98

00:04:12.000 There's a reason that Russia today basically ran a bunch of smears against him or ignored him after his death.

00:04:17.000 None of that is particularly a shock.

00:04:19.000 Sarah Huckabee Sanders actually said that John McCain was an American hero.

00:04:23.000 She was caught up with by TMZ as she left Reagan National Airport.

00:04:27.000 She said McCain's death was a great loss for our country.

00:04:30.000 And then she was asked if she personally planned to attend the funeral.

00:04:33.000 And she said, absolutely.

00:04:35.000 Apparently, Vice President Pence will attend the funeral.

00:04:37.000 Donald Trump will not attend the funeral because he has a longstanding spat with John McCain.

00:04:41.000 Barack Obama and George W. Bush are both expected to speak at the funeral.

00:04:44.000 And I want to talk a little bit in a second

00:04:46.000 About the sort of reason why there's so many people on the Trumpian right who are very angry at John McCain.

00:04:52.000 There are a lot of people who are trashing his memory the day of his death, and I don't think that that is appropriate in any way, shape, or form.

00:04:58.000 President Trump did tweet after Senator McCain's death,

00:05:06.000 Are with you, but obviously President Trump was not a fan of Senator McCain and that goes all the way back to early in the campaign when he suggested that Senator McCain was not a war hero, which was an abominable statement.

00:05:15.000 I mean, by any standard for Donald Trump to say a guy who avoided the Vietnam draft and then bragged about how his own personal Vietnam had been avoiding STDs during the 1970s while sleeping with various and sundry women.

00:05:27.000 For him to say that John McCain was not a war hero because he hadn't been caught was an egregious statement, obviously, and led to a tremendous rift between McCain and Trump from the very beginning.

00:05:39.000 According to the Washington Post, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Chief of Staff John Kelly, and other White House aides advocated for an official statement

00:05:46.000 That gave the decorated Vietnam War POW plaudits for his military and Senate service and called him a hero, according to current and former White House aides, who requested anonymity to discuss sensitive internal deliberations.

00:05:56.000 The original statement was drafted before McCain died Saturday.

00:05:58.000 Sanders and others edited a final version this weekend that was ready for the president, the aides said, but Trump told aides he wanted to post a brief tweet instead and the statement praising McCain's life was not released.

00:06:06.000 So despite the fact that Trump had released official statements on the death of John Glenn, former senator,

00:06:11.000 He refused to do so for John McCain, and Trump has no plans, apparently, to attend McCain's funeral.

00:06:17.000 This is generating all sorts of media headlines. 1.00

00:06:19.000 It's stupid politics by the president. 1.00

00:06:20.000 It is. 1.00

00:06:21.000 It's just, from a political perspective, it is dumb politics by the president because he is reopening a rift in the aftermath of a guy's death that is completely unnecessary.

00:06:28.000 Showing a little bit of grace would probably be a much better move here.

00:06:32.000 And this was exacerbated this morning by the fact that President Trump ordered the flags at the White House

00:06:38.000 To be rehung at the top of the staff.

00:06:40.000 So the normal rule, so by federal statute, the rule is...

00:06:45.000 That when a senator dies, that the flag is lowered for about a day.

00:06:49.000 But the unofficial rule, and this is the one that we've kept to, is that when a sitting senator dies, what you do is you leave the flag at half-staff until the senator is actually buried.

00:06:58.000 If you look at the pictures of the White House, you can see that the flag is back up to top of the staff, and I think the most troubling picture, obviously, is there's a picture of the White House flag at the top of the staff, and there's another picture

00:07:10.000 We're good to go!

00:07:33.000 The president's honesty is one of the attributes that people like about him.

00:07:36.000 It would have looked dishonest if the president had called McCain a war hero, had called him a war hero after not calling him a hero and after ripping him up and down.

00:07:43.000 But to issue some sort of gracious statement and take the temporary hit, I think, would have been well worthwhile.

00:07:47.000 I want to talk about McCain's record in just a second and why there's a perception on parts of the right that this sort of kind of slap at McCain is a decent thing, that it's not a huge deal.

00:07:58.000 But let's flash back to a couple of things about John McCain that I think are relevant.

00:08:01.000 First of all, let's talk about his record.

00:08:02.000 So, there's been a lot of talk today about the things that John McCain did right and the things that John McCain did wrong.

00:08:07.000 I would say that John McCain was right on about 65% of issues and he was wrong on about 35% of issues.

00:08:12.000 Those 35% loomed very large, right? 0.98

00:08:14.000 Campaign finance reform was a case where I was in deep disagreement with John McCain.

00:08:18.000 I think that his plans for campaign finance reform

00:08:22.000 We're actually quite harmful to the American public debate.

00:08:24.000 I think, frankly, they were unconstitutional.

00:08:26.000 But John McCain pushed those through anyway.

00:08:29.000 He was, as I say, instrumental in upholding parts of Obamacare just in the last year alone.

00:08:35.000 His tenure was not unmarred by some controversy.

00:08:39.000 Obviously, his Senate tenure began in 87, rather.

00:08:42.000 I said 81 earlier.

00:08:43.000 It was January 1987, and he had some problems with scandal.

00:08:47.000 He was involved with the so-called Keating Five.

00:08:49.000 Charles Keating was a banker that McCain had met while working at Hensley and Company, and Keating's associates at the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association had given money to McCain, as well as five other senators.

00:08:58.000 Keating supported them in the hopes of preventing the government seizures of his savings and loan.

00:09:03.000 McCain participated in meetings.

00:09:04.000 There was never any finding of serious corruption there.

00:09:06.000 But McCain would later go on to sponsor campaign finance reform.

00:09:09.000 Obviously, McCain-Feingold became a real thorn in the side of a lot of politicians.

00:09:14.000 And as I say, I think a violation of First Amendment principles.

00:09:19.000 McCain was very instrumental in the kind of war movement in the aftermath of 9-11.

00:09:23.000 I think that was right.

00:09:24.000 I think McCain's statements with regard to the surge in Iraq were eminently correct. 0.77

00:09:27.000 I think he was more correct on foreign policy than he was on domestic policy.

00:09:31.000 But McCain did win the New Hampshire primaries in January 8, 2008.

00:09:35.000 He ran a campaign against Barack Obama that I thought was quite lackluster.

00:09:39.000 But the things about McCain that made McCain a class act in certain ways.

00:09:43.000 I can't trust Obama.

00:09:43.000 I have read about him and he's not, he's not, he's a, um, he's an Arab.

00:09:45.000 He is not...

00:10:06.000 No.

00:10:07.000 No ma'am.

00:10:08.000 No ma'am.

00:10:09.000 He's a decent family man, citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is all about.

00:10:19.000 He's not.

00:10:19.000 Thank you.

00:10:21.000 And that was sort of who McCain was.

00:10:23.000 McCain had a baseline of good sense to him when it came at least to relationships with other people in politics.

00:10:30.000 But it's exactly that that led a lot of people to kind of dismiss him on the right, because the reality is in 2008 he did run a lackluster campaign.

00:10:36.000 He ran a campaign where he refused to say truths about Barack Obama, including about Barack Obama's associations with Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers.

00:10:42.000 It was a lackluster campaign.

00:10:44.000 He shouldn't have lost that campaign.

00:10:45.000 He did lose that campaign because I think that his sense of honor in politics overwhelmed

00:10:50.000 His necessity for victory in politics.

00:10:52.000 And you can say some good things about that.

00:10:53.000 You can also say some bad things about that.

00:10:55.000 But it led to the feeling that the Republican Party wasn't fighting hard enough.

00:10:58.000 So what we really need is a counter puncher.

00:11:00.000 And so people who favor Trump over McCain in that battle are largely relying on the fact that McCain was seen as sort of milquetoast in the way that he went after other politicians.

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00:11:11.000 Now I want to talk about the media reaction to John McCain.

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00:12:30.000 So, while the media are fulminating over the fact that President Trump is disrespectful to John McCain, which is true, the media are suddenly experiencing a strange new respect for John McCain.

00:12:41.000 The media suddenly love John McCain.

00:12:42.000 And I'd like to remind you that in 2008, while John McCain was running an honorable campaign against Barack Obama, the media were calling him a racist, they were calling him a sexist, they were suggesting that he was a crazed old loon who was going to land the United States in the middle of interminable war.

00:12:55.000 Right?

00:12:55.000 That was their campaign against John McCain.

00:12:57.000 I remember.

00:12:58.000 I was there.

00:12:59.000 I helped raise money for the McCain campaign.

00:13:01.000 John McCain, here is a, this kind of encapsulates it.

00:13:05.000 Lester Spence was an assistant professor of political science at the Johns Hopkins University.

00:13:10.000 He said this about Senator John McCain's campaign rhetoric.

00:13:13.000 Senator John McCain's recent attacks on Barack Obama, accusing him of being a terrorist,

00:13:17.000 Which McCain never did.

00:13:18.000 Combined with GOP columnists and bloggers arguing that Obama supports painting the White House black and racial reparations represents an embrace of the problematic southerner strategy the GOP has historically used to increase white racial resentment, said Spence, who is African-American.

00:13:31.000 But as can be seen in the most recent presidential debate, he's employing the strategy selectively, only among the GOP faithful.

00:13:37.000 That was the take of the media at the time.

00:13:38.000 There are a lot of people in the media who are suggesting that John McCain was just as bad as they suggest Donald Trump is today.

00:13:43.000 The media routinely say, whoever is the Republican who is running for office now, every other Republican before has been decent.

00:13:50.000 You wait.

00:13:50.000 After Donald Trump is out of office, whether it's in four years or whether it's in eight years,

00:13:55.000 The next person who they nominate, the next person Republicans pick will be seen as worse than Donald Trump.

00:14:00.000 They're already saying it, right?

00:14:01.000 They already said about Mike Pence that if Donald Trump were to be somehow deposed from office and Mike Pence were to take his slot, be careful what you wish for because Mike Pence is more dangerous and even more scary than Donald Trump.

00:14:12.000 It is because the left slandered folks like John McCain, who was a moderate on politics.

00:14:16.000 John McCain was a moderate Republican at best.

00:14:19.000 They slandered him.

00:14:20.000 They slandered Mitt Romney, another moderate on politics and moderate Republican at best. 0.99

00:14:24.000 They slandered both of them as racist, sexist, bigot, homophobes.

00:14:27.000 And the Republican base responded by saying both of those guys were nice guys who refused to run a bare knuckles campaign against the Democrat.

00:14:33.000 So let's nominate the not nice guy who's happy to go bare knuckles.

00:14:37.000 To underestimate the effect that Democratic attacks on John McCain and Mitt Romney had on the 2016 primaries is to ignore reality.

00:14:47.000 There were a lot of Republicans who resonated to the fact that Donald Trump was willing to take a hammer to anyone, specifically because they said, well, we nominated a couple of genteel folks, and we had a genteel president in George W. Bush, and you guys hammered the living daylights out of those folks, so why wouldn't we nominate somebody like Donald Trump?

00:15:02.000 Now, the cost of that is that you end up with somebody like Donald Trump

00:15:05.000 We're going to talk in a second about what exactly the media said upon John McCain's death, because suddenly it was a different tune.

00:15:23.000 So first of all, I have to point this out.

00:15:25.000 This was the best gaffe of the weekend.

00:15:27.000 It was truly amazing.

00:15:28.000 NBC News broke into Saturday Night Live in order to announce John McCain's death.

00:15:33.000 And let's just say that their programmer is not all that bright because it went quite poorly.

00:15:39.000 Here's what it sounded like.

00:15:41.000 And again this evening, the breaking news, NBC News confirming the death of Senator John McCain.

00:15:47.000 Our live coverage continues on MSNBC.

00:15:54.000 If you can't see this, they then went back to Saturday Night Live, Dolphin Love Story, in which two fat men with dolphin heads are walking around making dolphin songs, sounds, and then, and then proceeding to make out with each other.

00:16:13.000 Yeah, so from John McCain's death to this, well done media.

00:16:17.000 Best gaff of the weekend, just astonishing.

00:16:21.000 I mean, that, so, yep.

00:16:25.000 Well done, NBC.

00:16:26.000 But, when you look at the media's response to all this, take for example, Jake Tapper.

00:16:31.000 So I like Jake, I'm friendly with Jake.

00:16:34.000 And I think that Jake tries his best to keep his bias out of the politics.

00:16:37.000 What he says here is not completely untrue, but it is also indicative of one of the reasons why John McCain lost and one of the reasons why Donald Trump won.

00:16:46.000 Here's Jake Tapper explaining that a lot of the reverence you're seeing for McCain today is because of anger at President Trump and hatred of President Trump.

00:16:54.000 And Amanda, for a younger generation of conservatives, what does McCain mean?

00:16:59.000 And I can't help but think that part of the reason why there's such reverence for him today is because of who's in the White House right now, because they are polar opposites.

00:17:12.000 Okay, so that idea that Tapper is spelling out, that's correct, but it's also relevant to mention that when John McCain was running for the White House, there was a lot of talk about John McCain as a nutjob who's going to land us in war with Iran because he was a crazy person with his finger on the trigger.

00:17:25.000 And then as soon as Trump is in the White House, it's like, oh, well, you know, that John McCain guy, that guy was great.

00:17:29.000 Man, I miss that John McCain guy.

00:17:32.000 Of course you miss that John McCain guy because the guy was never president.

00:17:36.000 You miss that John McCain guy because that John McCain guy lost to your guy, Barack Obama.

00:17:40.000 The media loved Barack Obama and so they were happy with John McCain who lost in the same way that suddenly they're romantic about Mitt Romney.

00:17:45.000 There is even some romance about George W. Bush who's no longer in office.

00:17:48.000 Now, is it true that Donald Trump is a difference in kind from John McCain, from George W. Bush, from Mitt Romney?

00:17:54.000 Of course.

00:17:55.000 Of course that's true.

00:17:56.000 Of course he's a difference in kind, right?

00:17:57.000 He's the kind of person who refuses to keep the flag lowered to half staff at the White House out of personal pique at a dead senator.

00:18:05.000 Yes, he is a difference in kind from those other Republicans.

00:18:08.000 And it's not out of bounds to point out that he is a difference in kind.

00:18:10.000 It is important, however, to recall the media malfeasance that surrounded John McCain.

00:18:15.000 Every time he became a threat to the left, suddenly they turned on him.

00:18:19.000 And it's something to recall about the way that the press treat any Republican.

00:18:23.000 They will find their favorite Republican, treat them well until the point when they turn, at which point, as soon as they figure out that a Republican is actually a Republican, that Republican becomes a bad guy again.

00:18:31.000 And you see this with every major Republican of the modern era.

00:18:34.000 Right now, they like Ben Sasse. 0.99

00:18:36.000 Were Ben Sasse, the senator from Nebraska, to turn out to be a Republican presidential nominee, he would once again become a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe. 0.98

00:18:42.000 That is the way the left works. 0.97

00:18:43.000 It's what drove people into the arms of President Trump in the first place.

00:18:46.000 The media's malfeasance is what allowed President Trump to become President of the United States, which is why he campaigns against them on a regular basis.

00:18:53.000 And the media don't even recognize this.

00:18:55.000 Chuck Todd was defending the media over the weekend, and he said that, you know, all this mistrust in media, all of it is, it's based not in fact, it's just based on lies and propaganda.

00:19:05.000 I think one of the best things going in Donald Trump's favor, we know this, is the mainstream media.

00:19:10.000 I hate to say it, but the conservative echo chamber created that environment.

00:19:14.000 It's not, it's not, no no no, I mean, it has been a tactic and a tool of the Roger Ailes created echo chamber.

00:19:20.000 Let's not pretend it's not anything other than that.

00:19:22.000 I'm just saying it was a creation.

00:19:24.000 That's such nonsense.

00:19:24.000 I'm sorry.

00:19:25.000 That's such nonsense that the belief in left media bias is a creation of the echo chamber.

00:19:30.000 It's whistling past the graveyard.

00:19:32.000 It is just not true.

00:19:33.000 What percentage of people in the NBC newsroom actually voted for Donald Trump?

00:19:37.000 I would say it verges on zero.

00:19:38.000 It verges on zero.

00:19:39.000 The country split half and half and the percentage verged on zero.

00:19:43.000 And then you trot out folks like Roland Martin.

00:19:45.000 Roland Martin's on CNN all the time.

00:19:47.000 And he says, what people really want is integrity like Obama.

00:19:50.000 He's on MSNBC here.

00:19:51.000 He says that, well, people really want us integrity like Obama. 1.00

00:19:53.000 Then you wonder why people on the right think that the media is totally full of crap. 0.99

00:19:57.000 The media have been promoting... Here's Roland Martin, then I'll talk about this. 0.99

00:20:00.000 What is happening here are you're seeing Americans who are saying integrity matters.

00:20:06.000 Okay.

00:20:07.000 At some point, it can't be, well, that's just, that's just Trump being Trump.

00:20:11.000 No.

00:20:11.000 It's not.

00:20:11.000 Okay.

00:20:12.000 So Roland Martin saying integrity matters.

00:20:13.000 They want integrity like Obama's.

00:20:15.000 One of the memes that's been going around lately is the only scandal Obama had was his tan suit that he wore at the White House.

00:20:21.000 And members of the mainstream media have been pushing this.

00:20:23.000 John Harwood said this over the weekend.

00:20:25.000 If you actually believe that, then it's no wonder you also believe that people think that the media is biased for no reason.

00:20:32.000 People think the media is biased for a very good reason and McCain's death is the latest example as they swivel from McCain was a bad guy to McCain was a good guy based on how much damage he can do to the Republican Party and based on who is in the White House currently.

00:20:44.000 Okay, in just a second, I want to talk about President Trump's poll numbers and then a massive scandal for the Catholic Church.

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00:22:00.000 With all of this said about John McCain and President Trump, President Trump had a very bad week last week, and the media were hoping that this was sort of the end of little Trump, that this was going to be the end of Donald Trump's administration.

00:22:11.000 Well, it turns out there's a poll out, and shock of shocks, the poll numbers haven't moved at all.

00:22:15.000 The poll numbers are exactly stable.

00:22:17.000 So according to NBC and the Wall Street Journal, after a week that saw President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman convicted on eight counts of fraud,

00:22:23.000 and his former lawyer plead guilty to felony campaign finance charges, the president's job approval rating remains virtually unchanged, new polling from NBC News and the Wall Street Journal shows.

00:22:33.000 But the stability in Trump's approval rating also comes as more than half of voters say he has not been honest and truthful regarding the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller, and fewer than 3 in 10 voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pled guilty.

00:22:50.000 Trump's approval rating is 44% approve, 52% disapprove.

00:22:54.000 That is basically the same as it was a week ago when it was 46% approve, 51% disapprove.

00:23:00.000 The president's approval ratings are extraordinarily stable.

00:23:02.000 I have been saying this now for months.

00:23:04.000 The president of the United States is the beneficiary of what I call the strong market sufficiency theory.

00:23:08.000 Everything is priced in.

00:23:09.000 There's a theory about the stock market that you can't beat the stock market because all available information is immediately priced into the price of a stock.

00:23:16.000 Well, when it comes to Donald Trump, everything is priced in except for an economic collapse.

00:23:20.000 Basically, except for an economic collapse or nuclear war, the President of the United States' approval ratings will remain absolutely stable.

00:23:26.000 And part of the reason for that is because we are so ensconced in our own corners.

00:23:31.000 We are now cemented in our own political corners.

00:23:33.000 And one of the reasons we are so cemented in our political corners is indeed the bias of the media.

00:23:38.000 The feeling that no matter what Trump does, the media are out to get him.

00:23:40.000 It wouldn't matter if he were innocent or whether he were guilty.

00:23:42.000 They would treat him exactly the same way.

00:23:44.000 They went after John McCain.

00:23:45.000 They went after Mitt Romney.

00:23:46.000 Them going after Donald Trump.

00:23:47.000 It was the boy who cried wolf one too many times.

00:23:49.000 You can't do it that many times and then get away with it interminably.

00:23:54.000 And the thing is, even when the wolf shows up, the moral of the story of the boy who cried wolf is that even when the wolf shows up, nobody believes him.

00:23:59.000 Maybe Trump is the wolf.

00:24:01.000 Maybe not.

00:24:01.000 Nobody's gonna know.

00:24:02.000 Because the media already shot their wad when it came to John McCain and Mitt Romney.

00:24:07.000 They already said all they had to say about Republicans for years, about George W. Bush.

00:24:12.000 I've been here the whole time, so have you.

00:24:14.000 And this is nothing new.

00:24:15.000 They say the same thing about Donald Trump, except louder.

00:24:17.000 Now, does that mean that Trump should justify all of that with bad behavior?

00:24:21.000 Of course not.

00:24:22.000 It'd be great if Trump didn't justify all that with bad behavior.

00:24:24.000 You know, people treating you badly is not an excuse for bad behavior.

00:24:27.000 That said, to fail to recognize the impact of a polarized media environment on President Trump's stable approval ratings is absolutely short-sighted.

00:24:36.000 Okay, meanwhile, over the weekend, the other big news is that there was this terrible shooting at the Madden.

00:24:42.000 I guess it was Madden Tournament in Jacksonville, Florida.

00:24:45.000 This is a gamer tournament, so

00:24:47.000 Basically, people get together and they play Madden for money.

00:24:51.000 Madden football.

00:24:53.000 And the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office identified the alleged shooter as a white male who had died at the scene.

00:24:58.000 He was 24 years old, from Baltimore.

00:25:00.000 So he was coming, obviously, from a gun-free zone, because Baltimore, as we know, doesn't have any gun control laws.

00:25:05.000 Except for how it has tons of gun control laws.

00:25:06.000 He died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound inside Chicago Pizza after going on a shooting rampage that left two dead and 11 other people injured.

00:25:13.000 It was a gun-free zone with not enough security.

00:25:16.000 This is the typical story, unfortunately, of a lot of these sorts of mass shootings.

00:25:19.000 When you have a public event, a popular event, popular or public event, you have to have people there with guns.

00:25:24.000 When my sister's wedding happened, I paid personally for security with guns to make sure that nobody could actually get into my sister's wedding, and that was a private event.

00:25:32.000 This was a major public event that was a gun-free zone where they didn't have enough security, and this guy got in with a gun.

00:25:36.000 He was a disappointed gamer. 0.98

00:25:38.000 So he had gone in the first round, he had lost, and then he was so upset with his life that he went out and decided to murder a bunch of people, which is just evil and sick.

00:25:46.000 He used at least one handgun in his attack, so a ban on assault rifles would apparently do nothing.

00:25:51.000 He had previously appeared in a photo with a Buffalo Bills player after winning another competition.

00:25:56.000 There's been no motive announced for the killings.

00:25:58.000 There are reports that he snapped after losing an event.

00:26:01.000 He stayed at a local hotel the night before the shooting.

00:26:03.000 They've impounded his car.

00:26:04.000 The investigation is still ongoing.

00:26:06.000 EA Sports issued a statement saying, I want to point out the hypocrisy of folks in the media who are immediately jumping

00:26:20.000 It's hilarious because literally five days ago they were suggesting that it was impossible.

00:26:25.000 You should not politicize the killing of Mollie Tibbetts in Iowa.

00:26:28.000 You should certainly not say that that has anything to do with illegal immigration.

00:26:31.000 That would be politicization of the issue.

00:26:32.000 And I discussed at length on Friday what's true about that and what's not true about that.

00:26:36.000 The fact that we know more about Mollie Tibbetts' killing than we know about the average mass shooting in the first few days.

00:26:42.000 And that's why you can say with a certain amount of certainty that illegal immigration had something to do with the Molly Tibbetts killing, where in this case, we don't know where he got the gun.

00:26:48.000 We barely know what kind of gun the guy used.

00:26:50.000 We don't know about his criminal history.

00:26:52.000 We don't know about his psychological history.

00:26:53.000 There are a lot of other issues that conflate and confound.

00:26:57.000 The media immediately jumped to gun control because it was deeply necessary for them to push their agenda.

00:27:01.000 This just shows the hypocrisy of so many in the media who are willing to overlook their ban on politicization of major events.

00:27:12.000 So long as it pushes their particular agenda.

00:27:15.000 The police have ID'd this guy.

00:27:17.000 It does raise some questions about the lack of purpose in American society.

00:27:22.000 There are a lot of folks today talking about relationship between gaming and all of this.

00:27:26.000 That, of course, is spurious.

00:27:27.000 This was, first of all, not a violent video game.

00:27:30.000 So you can't even make that connection.

00:27:31.000 It was a football video game.

00:27:33.000 But the idea that you are a professional video game player at 24 years old, and that basically your job consists of sitting in a room alone and playing video games,

00:27:40.000 I can't say I think that's great for society that more and more people are doing that.

00:27:43.000 And that's not a rip on people who play video games.

00:27:44.000 We have tons of people at the office who play video games.

00:27:47.000 Tons of people who play Madden.

00:27:48.000 But it seems to me that part of a well-rounded life should be getting out a little bit more.

00:27:51.000 And it appears that this guy was not getting out a little bit more.

00:27:54.000 As I've said about mass shootings before, we do have a problem of masculinity in our society.

00:27:58.000 Not that all masculinity is toxic, but the opposite.

00:28:01.000 If you do not task young men with going out... This guy's 24.

00:28:05.000 I was married by the time I was 24.

00:28:06.000 I had...

00:28:08.000 A job, by the time I was 24 years old.

00:28:09.000 I graduated from law school by the time I was 24.

00:28:12.000 The fact that 24 years old in American society now is considered a kid, that the level of responsibility that attaches to people in their mid-twenties is basically zero, that you're expected to live at home, mooching off your parents, not for reasons that you have family solidarity, but just because you don't want to pay your bills, and that you do this all the way until you're basically 30, and then you start looking to get married and have a family.

00:28:31.000 The prolonged adolescence of young men is not good for American society for a variety of reasons. 0.99

00:28:37.000 Now, is that leading to an uptick in the number of mass shootings like this?

00:28:41.000 It seems like there is some basic connection.

00:28:43.000 I don't think that it is the main factor.

00:28:45.000 I think that there are a bunch of factors that are conflated here, but to refuse to acknowledge that young men are not being treated with the level of responsibility necessary from the time they are teenagers to mature into fully blown adult human beings who are capable of handling their lives is a mistake.

00:29:01.000 Also, it'll be interesting to see what this guy's psychological history was and how well it was taken care of.

00:29:06.000 Okay, in just a second, I want to talk about what I think is actually the

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00:30:04.000 This is the worst story of the day.

00:30:05.000 It really is a terrible story and it speaks to the liberalization of the Catholic Church and a serious problem with institutional protection.

00:30:11.000 So a few weeks ago we talked about, probably two weeks ago, we talked about the scandal that broke out in the state of Pennsylvania with regard to the archdiocese in Pennsylvania covering up over 30 years, a thousand cases of child molestation in the church.

00:30:24.000 And we talked about the problems that exist within every institution, the tendency to cover for the problems of an institution in order to quote-unquote protect the institution.

00:30:32.000 And this exists not only in the Catholic Church, it exists in various religious communities around the country and around the world.

00:30:37.000 It exists in governments, certainly.

00:30:39.000 It exists in public schools.

00:30:40.000 There's always, the human instinct is to feel solidarity.

00:30:46.000 With a particular structure you find to be important.

00:30:48.000 And then whenever that structure is threatened, particularly if it's threatened routinely, you tend to circle the wagons and defend anything that's happening in-house.

00:30:55.000 And this is how you end up with the quiet ascent to true evil that happens so often around the planet.

00:31:02.000 You wonder how Nazi Germany happened.

00:31:03.000 Basically, there's a population that for bad reasons and wrongly felt threatened by the outside world.

00:31:09.000 Decided to circulate, basically circle the wagons around the Nazi regime, and then the Nazi regime decided to kill all of the enemies of the people, including the Jews.

00:31:17.000 And people went along with that because the in-group was more important than the out-group, and the out-group was threatening them.

00:31:22.000 In-group, out-group politics is deeply important when it comes to understanding how institutions get perverted from the inside.

00:31:27.000 Well now, there's stories that basically the institutional perversion of the Catholic Church has reached up to the top levels of the Catholic Church.

00:31:34.000 This is from the NC Register, the National Catholic Register.

00:31:38.000 In an extraordinary 11-page written testament, a former apostolic nuncio to the United States has accused several senior prelates of complicity in covering up Archbishop Theodore McCarrick's allegations of sexual abuse, and has claimed that Pope Francis knew about sanctions imposed on then-Cardinal McCarrick by Pope Benedict XVI, but chose to repeal them.

00:31:58.000 Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, 77, who served as apostolic nuncio in Washington, D.C.

00:32:03.000 from 2011 to 2016, said that in the late 2000s, Benedict had imposed on Cardinal McCarrick sanctions similar to those now imposed on him by Pope Francis, and that Vigano personally told Pope Francis about those sanctions in 2013.

00:32:16.000 So McCarrick has been accused of sexual abuse of young seminarians.

00:32:20.000 He's also been accused of engaging in homosexual acts with a bunch of people who are under his auspices, which is a violation, obviously, 0.89

00:32:27.000 We're good to go!

00:32:49.000 It stretches back all the way back to when, you know, Henry II trying to say that we should actually try priests in secular courts in Great Britain, in England in the 12th and 13th centuries.

00:33:03.000 So this sort of battle between secular and church has been going on for a very long time.

00:33:07.000 But one of the premises of the idea that the church should handle its own business is that the church will actually handle its own business.

00:33:12.000 The church did not handle its own business.

00:33:14.000 According to Archbishop Vigano, he said in his written statement, simultaneously released to the Register and other media, that Pope Francis continued to cover for McCarrick.

00:33:22.000 And not only did he not take into account the sanctions that Pope Benedict had imposed on him, but also made McCarrick his trusted counselor.

00:33:28.000 Vigano's story has now been backed by a couple of other sources.

00:33:30.000 He said the former Archbishop of Washington advised the Pope to appoint a number of bishops in the United States, including Cardinals Bla... I think it's pronounced Blaise Cupich of Chicago and Joseph Tobin of Newark.

00:33:41.000 Archbishop Vigano who said his conscience dictates the truth be known as the corruption has reached the very top of the church's hierarchy ended his testimony by calling on Pope Francis and all those implicated in the cover-up of Archbishop McCarrick's abuse to resign.

00:33:53.000 The accusation basically suggests that McCarrick has abused

00:33:58.000 Legitimately, dozens of people.

00:33:59.000 The media has reported written reports of victims of abuse spanning decades, including a teenage boy, three young priests or seminarians, and a man now in his 60s who alleges that McCarrick abused him from the age of 11.

00:34:10.000 The Pope later accepted McCarrick's resignation from the College of Cardinals, but Vigano wrote that Benedict much earlier had imposed sanctions on McCarrick.

00:34:17.000 Similar to those handed down by Cardinal Perelin, the Cardinal was to leave the seminary where he was living.

00:34:22.000 He was forbidden to celebrate Mass in public, to participate in public meetings, to give lectures, to travel, with the obligation of dedicating himself to a life of prayer and penance.

00:34:29.000 He said the sanctions were applied as far back as 2009-2010.

00:34:33.000 Benedict's measure came years after Archbishop Pagano's predecessor at the nunciature,

00:34:42.000 Basically, the accusation here is that all of these memos were ignored by the top levels of the College of Cardinals and the papacy.

00:34:51.000 Lugano claims he wrote several memos to a series of cardinals who repeatedly refused to do anything about this.

00:34:58.000 They basically gave in to what he essentially calls a homosexual clique in the Catholic Church.

00:35:06.000 We're good to go!

00:35:26.000 Now, free from all constraints, had felt free to travel continuously to give lectures and interviews.

00:35:31.000 He said McCarrick, who backed Pope Francis, became the kingmaker for appointments in the Curia and the United States and the most listened to advisor in the Vatican for relations with the Obama administration.

00:35:41.000 He says that appointments of other cardinals were orchestrated by McCarrick.

00:35:44.000 It is a massive, massive scandal.

00:35:46.000 And Catholics are

00:35:47.000 There are a lot of traditional Catholics who are looking at this and wondering if Pope Francis can actually survive this.

00:35:52.000 Whether Pope Francis should step down for having helped cover all of this up because Pope Francis has been extraordinarily soft on LGBT issues.

00:35:59.000 It's something the media have taken note of for a very long time and there's a feeling among traditional Catholics that perhaps his softness on those issues led him to basically look the other way with regard to this Archbishop McCarrick who is actually engaged in violations of Catholic code with other seminarians alongside allegations of him molesting underage kids.

00:36:17.000 Really, really troubling stuff.

00:36:19.000 But again, any institution that refuses to cleanse itself is going to pay the price for all of this.

00:36:24.000 Pope Francis tweeted out something insane about this.

00:36:26.000 He tweeted out something like, he prays for the victims.

00:36:29.000 He prays to Mary for the victims.

00:36:31.000 And it's like, dude, you're the Pope.

00:36:32.000 Now it's time for you to actually do something about it, right?

00:36:34.000 It seems like you could be in a position to help God out here.

00:36:36.000 I mean, I'm not, I'm not a Catholic, but it seems like if you're the Pope, you might be in a position to actually, you know, help cleanse the Catholic church of this stuff, as opposed to just tweeting out vague references to prayer.

00:36:45.000 I'm not usually a person who says that prayer is not an answer, but when it comes to you having the power to do something about this at the head of a church to cleanse your own church of this stuff, you're gonna need to do more than pray about this.

00:36:56.000 This one ain't on God.

00:36:57.000 This one's on the church.

00:36:59.000 And this is true for Jewish communities and Catholic communities and Protestant communities and Muslim communities.

00:37:03.000 It is true for every community.

00:37:05.000 A community that fails to cleanse itself of evil is a community that becomes complicit in that evil.

00:37:10.000 Okay, meanwhile,

00:37:11.000 A lot of controversy today breaking out over Tiger Woods.

00:37:14.000 What did Tiger Woods do that was so awful, that was so terrible?

00:37:18.000 So apparently he was asked about, after his final round of the Northern Trust, about his relationship with President Trump.

00:37:25.000 And here's what he said.

00:37:26.000 He said, well, I've known Donald for a number of years.

00:37:28.000 He said, we've played golf together.

00:37:29.000 We've had dinner together.

00:37:29.000 I've known him pre-presidency and obviously during his presidency.

00:37:32.000 And then he was asked about being threatened by Trump and his policy.

00:37:36.000 And Wood said, well, he's the president of the United States.

00:37:38.000 You have to respect the office.

00:37:40.000 No matter who's in the office, you may like, dislike personality or the politics, but we must all respect the office.

00:37:44.000 And then asked if he had any more to say about the state and discourse of race relations, Wood said, no.

00:37:48.000 I just finished 72 holes.

00:37:49.000 I'm hungry.

00:37:51.000 This, of course, led to a massive controversy.

00:37:52.000 Why isn't Tiger Woods, such a powerful voice, speaking up on issues of race relations?

00:37:58.000 Tiger Woods is the reason people are still watching sports.

00:38:00.000 People had stopped watching golf because Tiger Woods became irrelevant.

00:38:03.000 Tiger Woods is relevant again, and people are watching.

00:38:05.000 The last thing Tiger Woods should be doing is talking about politics in sports.

00:38:09.000 You want to destroy the last common area we have left in common?

00:38:13.000 Destroy the sporting world by polarizing it around issues of politics.

00:38:15.000 Suggest that every celebrity has the necessity to talk about every political issue under the sun.

00:38:20.000 There's kind of a running joke on Twitter these days about Taylor Swift, because Taylor Swift has basically stayed out of politics as well.

00:38:25.000 And so anytime there's some sort of issue, people will start joking, Taylor Swift's silence on this issue is deafening.

00:38:33.000 Because the joke is that the media expects all these public figures who have nothing to do, they're not famous for politics, to start sounding off about politics because celebrity dominates our politics.

00:38:41.000 It's really bad.

00:38:42.000 President Trump tweeted out about this, he's 17, he tweeted out, the fake news media.

00:38:47.000 We're tired to get Tiger Woods to say something he didn't want to say.

00:38:50.000 Tiger wouldn't play the game.

00:38:51.000 He's very smart.

00:38:52.000 More importantly, he's playing great golf again.

00:38:55.000 So President Trump is right about this.

00:38:57.000 It's not particularly smart of him to draw attention to it, because now Tiger Woods is going to be badgered beyond belief by the media even more than he was before.

00:39:04.000 And now it looks as though Tiger is tacitly supporting the president, which will force him to come out and say something against the president.

00:39:09.000 You can see how this is exactly going to play out, right?

00:39:12.000 You can see how this is going to work.

00:39:13.000 Trump says something.

00:39:14.000 Tiger's now forced into a corner to say he doesn't like a lot of Trump's policies.

00:39:17.000 Trump turns on Tiger.

00:39:18.000 It turns into a Trump versus Tiger fight.

00:39:21.000 Which maybe is what Trump wants out of all of this.

00:39:22.000 Maybe it's not what he wants.

00:39:23.000 Maybe he doesn't care and he just tweets stuff out.

00:39:26.000 But the bottom line is, did Tiger do the right thing?

00:39:28.000 Yes, Tiger did the right thing.

00:39:29.000 On our Sunday special this week, we had on Clay Travis, Clay Travis, sports commentator, and he has a new book coming out called Republicans Buy Sneakers Too, which is a line from Michael Jordan, because during the 1990s, Michael Jordan didn't get political, and a lot of the people in the media wanted him to get political.

00:39:43.000 He said, listen, Republicans buy sneakers also.

00:39:45.000 Why would I alienate half of the population?

00:39:47.000 There's no reason for me to do that.

00:39:49.000 Tiger Woods made the right move here.

00:39:50.000 It is none of Tiger Woods' purview to talk politics.

00:39:53.000 He's not an expert on the issue.

00:39:55.000 But we have this weird tendency in American life now to think that everybody is an expert on everything, and the more prominent you are in any field, the more you're an expert on something.

00:40:03.000 So you'll see people who have become very rich in the hedge fund area, and suddenly we think they're experts on politics.

00:40:08.000 I mean, this is why Trump is president, right?

00:40:10.000 Trump is not an expert on politics.

00:40:11.000 Trump actually doesn't know all that much about politics.

00:40:13.000 He has some gut-level instincts, many of which are good, some of which are not good.

00:40:17.000 But people think he's an expert because he's very rich.

00:40:19.000 We all now abide by the line from Fiddler on the Roof.

00:40:22.000 There's a line in If I Were a Rich Man where Tevye is singing.

00:40:25.000 Tevye the peddler is singing.

00:40:29.000 And he's talking about what it's like to be rich.

00:40:32.000 And he says, the most important men in town will come to call on me.

00:40:36.000 They'll come and they'll ask me questions.

00:40:38.000 And they'll ask questions that would cross a rabbi's eyes. 0.71

00:40:42.000 And it doesn't matter if I answer right or wrong.

00:40:44.000 When you're rich, they think you really know.

00:40:46.000 And that's exactly right.

00:40:47.000 I mean, this is the way that our politics works now.

00:40:49.000 Tiger Woods is very good at golf.

00:40:50.000 So we think he should say something about politics because he must know.

00:40:53.000 He must know about the intricacies of race relations because Tiger Woods hits a golf ball for a living.

00:40:58.000 Now LeBron James must know everything there is to know about politics and have important things to say on politics because he's very famous and because he plays basketball.

00:41:06.000 And this is not saying that he should shut up and dribble.

00:41:08.000 He can say whatever he wants.

00:41:09.000 It's our fault that we take celebrities seriously.

00:41:12.000 It's not their fault.

00:41:12.000 If celebrities want to talk, that's their issue.

00:41:14.000 But if you want to alienate half the population, if you want to drive people up a wall, if you want ESPN to continue declining in the ratings, please keep asking Tiger Woods what he thinks of President Trump.

00:41:22.000 Let's do that.

00:41:23.000 Let's do a lot of that.

00:41:25.000 You want to destroy what's left of our common culture, all you have to do is keep pushing this idea that our celebrities should be spokespeople for the policies that you particularly like.

00:41:35.000 It's ugly stuff, and it makes for a worse country.

00:41:38.000 Which is why ESPN is declining in the ratings, it's why people are watching less and less of sports, and it's why the media's focus on the politicization of every angle of sports is actually making Star secondary.

00:41:49.000 I'm a baseball fan.

00:41:50.000 You know how many baseball fans want to see more of Mike Trout on TV?

00:41:53.000 The answer is virtually every baseball fan.

00:41:54.000 We can't even see Mike Trout on TV anymore because we're busy battling out kneeling for the National Anthem, an issue that has really very little bearing on anybody's life.

00:42:02.000 When the continuation of this polarization is only going to make our politics worse.

00:42:06.000 I think things are likely to get worse before they get better in American life, and that's not a good thing.

00:42:11.000 That's a very dangerous thing.

00:42:12.000 Okay, it's time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.

00:42:16.000 So, let's get to some things that I like.

00:42:19.000 So over the weekend, Neil Simon died.

00:42:21.000 So it wasn't just John McCain.

00:42:22.000 Neil Simon died at the age of 91.

00:42:26.000 Obviously one of the kind of great American playwrights.

00:42:30.000 And his most famous play was The Odd Couple, which was made into a movie with Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau.

00:42:34.000 It's a hysterically funny movie.

00:42:36.000 Particularly the first half of the movie is really, really funny.

00:42:39.000 Here's a little bit of the trailer for The Odd Couple.

00:42:42.000 Starring Jack Lemmon.

00:42:44.000 A hypochondriac.

00:42:47.000 A fuss budget.

00:42:49.000 Neater than neat.

00:42:50.000 Cleaner than clean.

00:42:52.000 No wonder his wife kicked him out. 0.99

00:42:55.000 Stop that, will you?

00:42:56.000 What are you doing?

00:42:58.000 I'm trying to clear up my ears.

00:42:59.000 Did it open up?

00:43:09.000 I think I strained my throat.

00:43:12.000 Walter Matthau.

00:43:14.000 Another guy whose wife left him.

00:43:16.000 And his pad looks like she left it a long time ago.

00:43:19.000 Who wants food? 0.86

00:43:20.000 What do you got?

00:43:22.000 I got brown sandwiches and green sandwiches.

00:43:27.000 Which one do you want?

00:43:28.000 What's the green?

00:43:29.000 See, the very new cheese or very old meat?

00:43:32.000 I'll take the brown.

00:43:34.000 It's a really funny movie, and it's worth watching.

00:43:37.000 Maybe we'll do a Neil Simon this week, like a bunch of Neil Simon stuff, because there's a bunch of great Neil Simon plays that he did that are really funny and really good.

00:43:47.000 And so we'll check some of that out this week.

00:43:49.000 The Odd Couple is his best.

00:43:51.000 You should definitely check it out.

00:44:11.000 Things that I hate.

00:44:12.000 The Daily Mirror is now pushing man bras.

00:44:15.000 I am not kidding you.

00:44:17.000 Man bras.

00:44:18.000 Okay?

00:44:19.000 And here is what they are saying.

00:44:20.000 They're saying lacy bras for men are now a thing. 0.62

00:44:23.000 And you can also buy matching knickers.

00:44:26.000 Okay?

00:44:27.000 K-N-I-C-K-E-R-S. 1.00

00:44:29.000 Okay?

00:44:30.000 It's a British word.

00:44:31.000 I did not just say a racial slur.

00:44:33.000 I just want to make that absolutely clear because I would never say a racial slur like that, but I want to make absolutely clear so Media Matters doesn't suggest that I would ever say a racial slur because I just pronounced a word for undergarments in British, okay?

00:44:45.000 Because that's the way that this industry works now.

00:44:47.000 So here is what the Daily Mirror says.

00:44:49.000 Ladies, if you've ever looked at your man's underwear and thought it was a bit dull, then you're not alone.

00:44:53.000 I don't know a single lady who has ever looked at men's underwear and thought it was a bit dull.

00:44:57.000 They say, there's so much choice when it comes to women's underwear. 1.00

00:45:00.000 From thongs to Brazilian and Bridget Jones style pants.

00:45:02.000 Not to mention strapless, multi-way and water bras.

00:45:04.000 Most men have only boxers or briefs to choose from.

00:45:06.000 You know why?

00:45:07.000 Because women don't operate with regard to sex the same way that men do. 1.00

00:45:10.000 They don't. 0.93

00:45:10.000 Okay, women aren't like... 0.93

00:45:13.000 Men will check out pretty much any woman that is moving because that is evolutionarily beneficial for men to check out women. 0.95

00:45:20.000 Women don't think about sex in exactly the same way, which is why men find the unclothed female body a lot more attractive than women find the unclothed male body as a general rule. 0.98

00:45:29.000 This is not to say that women aren't into sex, but it is to say that to compare men's view of sex to women's view of sex is obviously ridiculous. 0.94

00:45:36.000 And it's one of the reasons why prostitution is an industry that almost entirely caters to males, and why pornography is an industry that almost entirely caters to males. 0.97

00:45:43.000 In any case, we're now going to try to pretend that women are exactly the same about sex as men are, and that women are into men dressing like ladies, which is real weird.

00:45:52.000 So the Daily Mirror says, this is all about to change.

00:45:54.000 As one lingerie company has created a unique line of bras and undergarments, I'm going to change the word, especially for men.

00:46:00.000 No!

00:46:00.000 Okay, quick survey of the women in the room.

00:46:02.000 Is this something that you're into?

00:46:26.000 Jess, you need to stop vomiting back there.

00:46:28.000 Why are you vomiting?

00:46:29.000 Okay, into the trash can, please. 0.50

00:46:31.000 No, women are not into this. 1.00

00:46:33.000 I love that people actually posted reviews of this and were not embarrassed.

00:46:36.000 There's a review posted for the turquoise Annabelle bra said,

00:46:43.000 Then let me suggest that your girlfriend may in fact be into other types of things as well. 1.00

00:46:50.000 Like if you're dressing a man as a lady, maybe she's just into the ladies. 0.99

00:46:54.000 Because this is not a thing.

00:46:56.000 It's not even close to a thing.

00:46:59.000 One man reviewing the Tiffany sleepwear set commented, The material feels so soft and sensuous to the touch and feels so comfortable, you could sleep in it all night if it wasn't so sexy.

00:47:08.000 Okay.

00:47:10.000 I got nothing.

00:47:12.000 I got nothing.

00:47:14.000 Daily Mail, thank you for that.

00:47:16.000 I'm glad that you've made the world a significantly worse place today.

00:47:18.000 And it was already an unbelievably crappy place after the news of the weekend. 0.99

00:47:22.000 The equation of men and women with regard to sex is one of the dumber things on the agenda of feminists and radical leftists. 1.00

00:47:29.000 This idea that women treat men's bodies the same way that men treat women's bodies is essentially insane. 0.99

00:47:33.000 It's essentially insane.

00:47:35.000 It's just crazy.

00:47:35.000 Because men and women's brains do not treat sex the same way.

00:47:38.000 And to pretend that what women really want out of men is for men to be more feminine is totally nuts. 0.97

00:47:43.000 It's totally crazy.

00:47:45.000 There's not a straight woman alive who wants men to be more feminine, just as there is no straight man alive who's interested in women being really, really masculine.

00:47:55.000 What I really want my wife to be is more like a man. 0.99

00:47:57.000 Okay, that's not a thing. 0.99

00:47:59.000 So the separation of sexes is one of the great things about life and the attempt to destroy that with stupidities like this. 0.97

00:48:05.000 The truth is that the Daily Mail is just looking for clickbait and they got it. 0.99

00:48:08.000 I had to give it attention because it's so insane.

00:48:11.000 Okay, we need to stop showing these pictures because it's just too horrifying.

00:48:15.000 It's just too terrible all the way around.

00:48:17.000 Is the audio working again or is it still out of commission?

00:48:21.000 It's still out.

00:48:21.000 Okay, fine.

00:48:22.000 So we'll have to break here today.

00:48:23.000 We'll save some of our goodies for tomorrow, but we will be back then.

00:48:26.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - August 27, 2018

Goodbye To A Hero | Ep. 611

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