The Ben Shapiro Show - Goodbye To Dr. Fauci, And Don’t Let The Door Hit You On The Way Out | Ep. 1560

00:00:00.000 Dr. Fauci announces he will leave his job in December.

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00:01:32.000 So, Dr. Anthony Fauci is out.

00:01:34.000 Well, not now.

00:01:35.000 Like, as of December.

00:01:36.000 He's going to stick around just long enough so it doesn't look like he's bailing and running for the exits just before the Republicans take Congress.

00:01:43.000 I think the assumption here is that he believes the Republicans are going to take Congress in November, and he's going to find himself back up Under some sort of investigation, come January when the Republicans actually take over the House, he's going to find himself back in front of a committee investigating his activities during this time, including the funding of gain-of-function research in Wuhan, his email activities, and all the rest.

00:02:04.000 He put out a statement.

00:02:05.000 His statement says this, quote, I'm announcing today I will be stepping down from the positions of Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and Chief of the NIAID Laboratory of Immunoregulation, as well as my position of Chief Medical Advisor to President Joe Biden.

00:02:18.000 I'll be leaving these positions in December of this year to pursue the next chapter of my career.

00:02:21.000 The next chapter is presumably like a $20 million autobiography paid for by Simon & Schuster or HarperCollins or something.

00:02:29.000 A payment.

00:02:30.000 Just a boatload of money.

00:02:31.000 And then seven people will actually buy it.

00:02:34.000 And those seven people will all be working for the Democratic Party.

00:02:37.000 It has been the honor of a lifetime to have led the NIAID, an extraordinary institution for so many years and through so many scientific and public health challenges.

00:02:43.000 As Fauci, I'm very proud of our many accomplishments.

00:02:46.000 I have worked with and learned from countless talented and dedicated people in my own laboratory, at NIAID, at NIH and beyond.

00:02:52.000 To them I express my abiding respect and gratitude.

00:02:54.000 Then he talks about all the presidents that he has served under, etc, etc.

00:02:57.000 He says, while I'm moving on from my current positions, I'm not retiring.

00:03:00.000 After more than 50 years of government service, I plan to pursue the next phase of my career while I still have so much energy and passion for my field.

00:03:06.000 I want to use what I have learned as NIAID director to continue to advance science and public health and to inspire and mentor the next generation of scientific leaders as they help prepare the world to face future infectious disease threats.

00:03:16.000 Because he's done an unbelievable job of this.

00:03:19.000 He's going to prepare the next generation to be just as crappy at this as he was.

00:03:24.000 This is the same guy who really blew it during the HIV-AIDS epidemic of the 1980s, suggesting that it was very easily transmitted, that it had very little to do with sexual contact, that anyone could get it. 0.67

00:03:34.000 And then, obviously, he's presided over two administrations that combined a total of more than 1 million deaths in the United States from COVID.

00:03:41.000 So by any metric, This guy is just a giant failure.

00:03:45.000 Plus, he presided for 50 years over the distribution of enormous sums of money into medical research.

00:03:51.000 So, it'll be really fun to go through, over the next few years, all of the places he put that money, including into gain-of-function research all over the world, and money that may have been funneled by the Chinese government into the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which may or may not have helped actually create COVID-19, because all that money is fungible.

00:04:09.000 Over the coming months, I will continue to put my full effort, passion, and commitment into my current responsibilities, as well as help prepare the Institute for a leadership transition, says Dr. Fauci.

00:04:17.000 NIAID conducts and supports research at NIH throughout the United States and worldwide to study the causes of infection and immune-mediated diseases, et cetera, et cetera.

00:04:26.000 I'm proud to have been part of this important work and look forward to helping continue to do so in the future.

00:04:30.000 So, Anthony Fauci is out.

00:04:32.000 That was accompanied by an interview that he did with the Washington Post, where he talked about what a wonderful person he is.

00:04:38.000 I mean, Dr. Anthony Fauci, a humble public servant who just happens to find himself on the cover of InTouch magazine and InStyle, and the same day that he releases his news about leaving NIAID, he also does a really, really self-serving interview with the Washington Post, in which he talks about how wonderful, what a great job he did.

00:04:59.000 He suggested that he really stood up to Donald Trump.

00:05:03.000 That was what he really did.

00:05:04.000 Quote, he said, it was one of the most important challenges we have had to face.

00:05:08.000 And I believe my team and I, and let the history be the judge of that, have made a major contribution.

00:05:12.000 We didn't do it alone.

00:05:13.000 We played a major role in the development of the vaccines that have now saved millions of lives.

00:05:16.000 What major role did Dr. Fauci play in actually developing the vaccines?

00:05:21.000 Pfizer developed the vaccines.

00:05:23.000 Moderna developed the vaccines.

00:05:26.000 He suggested, of course, that his real contribution was standing up to the President of the United States, Donald Trump, at the time.

00:05:33.000 He spoke about how it was very difficult to become the villain.

00:05:38.000 Fauci said he's not concerned with potential investigations.

00:05:40.000 He says, there's nothing I can't defend.

00:05:41.000 I can respect disagreement.

00:05:42.000 There's a big difference between disagreement and investigating somebody for doing something terrible.

00:05:48.000 And, of course, he says that really it's all Trump's fault.

00:05:51.000 It's not just that he screwed things up.

00:05:53.000 It was really that Donald Trump did it.

00:05:56.000 He said, I was put in a very unusual circumstance where the country was scared.

00:05:58.000 They really wanted someone who was steady and honest and showed integrity and stuck with facts.

00:06:01.000 And I became the symbol of that.

00:06:03.000 There's that trademark Anthony Fauci humility.

00:06:04.000 And when you become a symbol for a certain segment of people, the people against that become a villain to them.

00:06:09.000 See, he was a symbol of steadiness.

00:06:12.000 Honesty, integrity, sticking with the facts, according to Dr. Fauci.

00:06:17.000 And that was what he was a symbol of.

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00:07:36.000 According to Dr. Fauci, there's been an actual Fauci effect wherein people have gone into the medical field just because he's so good at this.

00:07:43.000 People watched him on TV and they said, this person who is wrong about pretty much every area of COVID, this guy, that's why I'm going into the industry.

00:07:52.000 Here's Dr. Fauci bragging about Dr. Fauci, because if there's one person who loves Dr. Fauci, it is Dr. Fauci.

00:07:58.000 It's called the Fauci effect, which is sort of like, you know, as Trust me, I don't get excited about that.

00:08:09.000 I mean, it's nice, but... People go to medical school now, people are interested in science, not because of me, because most people don't know me, who I am.

00:08:21.000 My friends know me, my wife knows me, but people don't know me.

00:08:24.000 It's what I symbolize.

00:08:26.000 And what I symbolize in a...

00:08:29.000 In an era of the normalization of untruths and lies and all the things you're seeing going on in society from January 6th to everything else that goes on, people are craving for consistency, for integrity, for truth, and for people caring about people.

00:08:50.000 Man, does Anthony Fauci love Anthony Fauci.

00:08:52.000 That dude just loves that guy.

00:08:54.000 You can tell that.

00:08:55.000 You can see in his documentaries.

00:08:56.000 Hulu did a documentary on him at one point.

00:08:58.000 And there was a picture of Anthony Fauci on the office wall of Anthony Fauci.

00:09:01.000 Now, as a person who is relatively well-known, I can assure you this.

00:09:06.000 My office does not include a giant portrait of me. 0.97

00:09:08.000 Because this is the Mark of a true douchebag. 0.88

00:09:10.000 I mean, just to put it absolutely bluntly. 0.95

00:09:13.000 If you have a giant portrait of you sitting behind you, There are only two reasons for that. 0.99

00:09:17.000 One, you're the dictator of a small communist country, or two, you are a douchebag. 0.97

00:09:20.000 Those are the only two possible reasons for that to be the case. 0.97

00:09:23.000 It also happens to be the case that Dr. Fauci was wrong on, like, everything along the way here.

00:09:28.000 So, very early on, he was really suggesting shutting the country down.

00:09:33.000 And then later he denied it, but unfortunately, all this stuff lives on video for Dr. Fauci.

00:09:38.000 He admitted, just a few months back, that yeah, he did recommend shutting the country down.

00:09:42.000 What was the most crucial decision you had to make during the pandemic, and what was the critical thought process that took you through it?

00:09:49.000 Yeah, the most crucial... It was a decision to make a recommendation to the president.

00:09:55.000 It wasn't my decision that I could implement.

00:09:58.000 And when it became clear that when we had community spread, in the country with a few cases of community spread.

00:10:08.000 This was way before there was a major explosion like we saw in the Northeastern Corridor driven by New York City metropolitan area.

00:10:17.000 I recommended to the president that we shut the country down.

00:10:23.000 And that was a very difficult decision because I knew it would have serious economic consequences, which it did.

00:10:31.000 But there was no way to stop the explosive spread that we knew would occur if we didn't do that.

00:10:41.000 By the way, you didn't stop the explosive spread, as it turns out.

00:10:45.000 The spread was never stopped, actually.

00:10:47.000 The only thing that actually broke the vectors of the virus was the vaccine, in terms of bringing down the deadliness of the disease, particularly among those who are highly, highly vulnerable.

00:10:55.000 What should have been done from the very outset, and it was very clear that this was the case, June, certainly May, June of 2020, is that people who are the most healthy, the youngest cohort, should have gone back to work.

00:11:05.000 People who are really vulnerable should have stayed at home.

00:11:07.000 Kids should have gone back to school.

00:11:08.000 That was very obvious even by summer of 2020.

00:11:10.000 But at that time, it was Anthony Fauci who was recommending that states remain closed.

00:11:14.000 Here he was in July 2020 ripping on states that were quote unquote reopening.

00:11:19.000 There are some governors and mayors that did it perfectly correctly.

00:11:24.000 They stayed exactly, they wanted to open up So they went through the guidelines of opening up their state.

00:11:31.000 But what happened is that many of the citizenry said, you know, well, I'm either going to be locked down or I'm going to let it all rip.

00:11:38.000 And, and you could see from just looking documented on TV and in the papers of still photos of people at bars and at congregations, which are a perfect setup, particularly if you don't have a mask.

00:11:51.000 Then there are some times when, despite the, um, The guidelines and the recommendations to open up carefully and prudently, some states skipped over those and just opened up too quickly.

00:12:05.000 Okay, and then it's worthwhile noting here that Anthony Fauci flip-flopped on masks about 27 different times here.

00:12:11.000 He started off at the very beginning of the pandemic, suggesting via email that masks were actually wildly ineffective.

00:12:17.000 He actually was caught on email saying this when all of his emails were released, saying that masks would not stop the spread.

00:12:23.000 Quote, masks are really for infected people to prevent them from spreading infection to people who are not infected.

00:12:28.000 Rather than protecting uninfected people from acquiring infection, the typical mask you buy in the drugstore is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through the material.

00:12:36.000 It might, however, provide some slight benefit in keeping out gross droplets if someone coughs or sneezes on you.

00:12:40.000 Mr. Sylvia Burwell is working for the Trump administration at the time.

00:12:45.000 I do not recommend that you wear a mask, particularly since you are going to a very low-risk location.

00:12:49.000 Your instincts are correct.

00:12:50.000 Money is best spent on medical countermeasures such as diagnostics and vaccines.

00:12:54.000 This is in February of 2020.

00:12:56.000 Masks aren't really effective.

00:12:57.000 And then, of course, he flipped and masks were the most effective.

00:13:00.000 So, I mean, as of today, like last week, he's still telling you to wear masks despite the fact that there is zero data.

00:13:06.000 I mean, there are literally zero studies.

00:13:08.000 They do not exist showing that masks are effective in stopping the spread of Omicron unless you're talking about, like, N95s that are strapped to your face as though you are in some sort of medical unit.

00:13:19.000 Okay, which no one is wearing a mask like that.

00:13:21.000 But here's Anthony Fauci still promoting this stuff.

00:13:24.000 If you are in a zone or a county, state or a city that has a very high level of dynamic of viral circulation, the CDC would recommend strongly that you wear a mask in a congregate indoor setting.

00:13:42.000 And that would include schools, places of work, Anything that brings people together in a closed environment, that is good public health practice.

00:13:57.000 So he's still doing this.

00:13:58.000 He's still doing this.

00:13:59.000 Now, he's been allowed to get away with this because the media have been incredibly warm for Dr. Fauci since the beginning.

00:14:03.000 They posited him as sort of rival to President Trump.

00:14:06.000 And let's be fair about this.

00:14:06.000 President Trump is to blame for appointing Dr. Fauci to this position.

00:14:11.000 The simple fact of the matter is that he made Dr. Fauci significantly more famous because he put him out front.

00:14:15.000 And then he started arguing with the guy he had put out front.

00:14:19.000 What he should have done is taken control of the situation, President Trump.

00:14:21.000 And he should have said, listen, here's the way I want to do this.

00:14:23.000 Because in the end, when you shut down the economy, when you tell businesses to shut down, when you tell everybody to follow Dr. Fauci, that's a political decision.

00:14:29.000 That is not just a medical decision.

00:14:31.000 The question as to whether there's a medical basis for what you are doing and that it's balanced properly with economic considerations, that is politics.

00:14:39.000 And so it was a mistake by Trump to put Fauci out front.

00:14:42.000 That said, Fauci then proceeded to do a terrible job.

00:14:46.000 And again, this repeated itself over and over and over again.

00:14:49.000 He's not been honest, for example, about the fact that he supported gain-of-function research.

00:14:53.000 Like throughout his entire career, gain-of-function research is where you actually increase the functionality of a virus in order to see if you can counter the virus.

00:15:01.000 And he has backed this for a very long time.

00:15:03.000 Then he tried to obscure the fact that he had backed gain-of-function research by saying that when you are creating a virus in a lab that only applies to animals and then it transmits to humans, that's not technically gain-of-function research.

00:15:14.000 Gain-of-function research is within a species.

00:15:16.000 It's not cross-species.

00:15:17.000 Okay, well, that is obfuscating without really clarifying.

00:15:20.000 Here is Dr. Fauci avoiding answers about funding gain-of-function research.

00:15:25.000 How do you know they didn't lie to you?

00:15:27.000 Excuse me, sir?

00:15:29.000 How do you know they didn't lie to you and use the money for gain-of-function research anyway?

00:15:34.000 Well, we've seen the results of the experiments that were done and that were published and that the viruses that they studied are on public databases now.

00:15:47.000 So none of that was gain-of-function, so... How do you know they didn't do the research and not put it on their website?

00:15:55.000 There's no way of guaranteeing that.

00:15:59.000 There's no way of guaranteeing that.

00:16:00.000 And of course, in his arguments with Rand Paul, Rand Paul was saying, why do you back gain-of-function research?

00:16:05.000 And Fauci was saying, well, gain-of-function research isn't the sort of stuff that created COVID-19, if it was indeed created in a lab.

00:16:11.000 But it really, on a generic level, it really, really did.

00:16:15.000 As the Wall Street Journal points out today, Dr. Fauci refused even to consider that the novel coronavirus had originated in a lab at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China.

00:16:22.000 This may have been because the NIH had provided grant money to the non-profit EcoHealth Alliance, which helped fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab.

00:16:28.000 In a semantic battle with Republicans, Dr. Fauci denied the NIH funded such research.

00:16:33.000 At his refusal even to consider the possibility the virus started in a Wuhan lab showed Fauci was as much a politician as a scientist. 0.83

00:16:39.000 Worse, and this really is bad, Dr. Fauci smeared the few brave scientists who opposed blanket lockdowns and endorsed a strategy of focused protection on the elderly and those at high risk.

00:16:47.000 This was the message of the great Barrington Declaration authors, and emails later surfaced showing that Fauci worked with others in government to deride that alternative, so it never got a truly fair public hearing.

00:16:57.000 NIH Director Francis Collins wrote to Fauci, It's easy to criticize, but they're really criticizing science because I represent science.

00:17:06.000 That's dangerous, Dr. Fauci said last November.

00:17:09.000 That is how Dr. Fauci has treated his entire career.

00:17:12.000 And he's still on record saying that forcing kids to get vaccinated to go back to school was just a wonderful idea.

00:17:18.000 There were no countervailing concerns whatsoever.

00:17:21.000 Here's Dr. Fauci doing that.

00:17:23.000 I believe that mandating vaccines for children to appear in school is a good idea.

00:17:28.000 And remember, Jake, this is not something new.

00:17:32.000 We have mandates in many places in schools, particularly public schools, that if in fact you want a child to come in, we've done this for decades and decades, requiring polio, measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis.

00:17:47.000 So this would not be something new, requiring vaccinations for children to come to school.

00:17:54.000 Has there been a thing where Dr. Fauci wasn't at some point wrong during this pandemic?

00:17:57.000 Listen, I have a lot of sympathy for people who are in positions of public power when unforeseen circumstances occur.

00:18:03.000 But this is the entire thing.

00:18:04.000 You are the head of infectious diseases for the entire United States.

00:18:08.000 This is not supposed to be the way that it works.

00:18:09.000 You're not supposed to blow it eight ways from Sunday and then become a national hero just because people hate Trump.

00:18:14.000 And that's really what happened with Fauci.

00:18:15.000 Fauci blew this job.

00:18:16.000 Everyone knows he blew this job.

00:18:18.000 Dr. Rochelle Walensky at the CDC, she has blown this job.

00:18:20.000 She's done a terrible job. 0.99

00:18:22.000 How many bureaucratic idiots have to be in charge of these massive three, four, five-letter agencies before we realize that perhaps the bureaucracy is not good at its job, that the elites blow it time and time again, and then we are told to trust them because, for example, they're anti a politician that the media don't like. 0.99

00:18:40.000 So, Dr. Fauci, good riddance, and I look forward to seeing you when you are next talking with Senator Rand Paul, except this time he's the head of some sort of investigative committee. 0.98

00:18:50.000 Democrats are beginning to think that they may be able to pull their irons out of the fire when it comes to this 2022 midterm election.

00:18:58.000 They're looking at the equality of the Senate candidates on the right side of the aisle, and they're believing they may be able to retain control of the Senate.

00:19:03.000 The current statistics suggest that they're not totally wrong in this.

00:19:07.000 538 says there's a better than average chance that the Democrats retain control of the Senate.

00:19:11.000 This is, after all, a bad year for Republicans who are defending seats.

00:19:14.000 There are a lot of Republican seats that are up for defense.

00:19:16.000 And a lot of the vulnerable seats for Republicans have turned out to be seats where they've run candidates who are not extraordinarily strong.

00:19:22.000 That said, the polls are really not showing these vast gaps that the media are projecting.

00:19:27.000 So, for example, in Pennsylvania, there's a lot of talk about how John Fetterman is beating the hell out of Dr. Oz, up 18, 20 points.

00:19:32.000 That's not right.

00:19:33.000 The latest poll has Fetterman up about four points over Dr. Oz, and Fetterman is stuck at 48%.

00:19:38.000 That race is going to get closer before this election is over, especially as people discover that John Fetterman is a socialist Uncle Fester.

00:19:46.000 Who is a complete, lifelong, useless person who has somehow been thrust into a position of power in Pennsylvania and believes the same thing that Bernie Sanders does.

00:19:55.000 He's a bad candidate. 0.98

00:19:56.000 John Fetterman.

00:19:57.000 Forget about candidate equality on the right side. 1.00

00:19:59.000 John Fetterman is a crap candidate. 0.97

00:20:00.000 When people realize that Raphael Warnock in Georgia basically sneaked through last time because Donald Trump made him sneak through last time, and that Raphael Warnock has a bunch of vulnerabilities on his record, there's going to be a lot of focus on him and not just on Herschel Walker in Georgia. 0.99

00:20:14.000 In Arizona, more fraught race, Blake Masters versus Mark Kelly.

00:20:17.000 Blake Masters, I think, is going to run a stronger race than people think.

00:20:20.000 There was a lot of concern about J.D.

00:20:21.000 Vance in Ohio.

00:20:22.000 Those concerns are already being alleviated.

00:20:24.000 J.D.

00:20:24.000 Vance in the latest polls is up five over Tim Ryan in Ohio.

00:20:28.000 So, you know, I think that the Democrats are getting a little bit over their skis if they believe that they are going to be able to definitely retain the Senate.

00:20:35.000 The Senate is currently split 50-50.

00:20:37.000 It looks like a toss-up because of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Georgia, and Arizona.

00:20:41.000 But the Republicans look like they may have the upper hand in Nevada with Adam Laxalt.

00:20:44.000 It looks like the Republicans may, in fact, run strong in New Hampshire.

00:20:48.000 So Democrats are counting their chickens a little bit before they are hatched right here.

00:20:52.000 And that's particularly true because the overall polling for the Democrats right now is just terrible.

00:20:56.000 One of the reasons the Democrats are overconfident is they think you forgot about inflation and high interest rates.

00:21:01.000 Well, you didn't.

00:21:02.000 And here's the thing, as long as you're thinking about that, why not see if you can shore up your own finances?

00:21:06.000 Because you kind of have to.

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00:22:18.000 A new NBC poll shows that nearly three quarters of Americans think the United States is headed in the wrong direction under Joe Biden.

00:22:26.000 That sort of status is not survivable.

00:22:27.000 If 75% of Americans believe the country is on the wrong track under Joe Biden, he's going to bear the brunt of that.

00:22:33.000 There's just no two ways about that.

00:22:35.000 The party in power gets smacked in the face, if those are your poll stats.

00:22:39.000 According to the UK Daily Mail, a whopping 74% of Americans say the country is on the wrong track.

00:22:44.000 Just 21% feel the nation is headed in the right direction, according to a new survey from NBC News.

00:22:49.000 More than half of respondents, 58%, feel more worried that America's best years may already be behind us.

00:22:54.000 Only 35% think the best years are yet to come.

00:22:57.000 And this makes sense.

00:22:58.000 I mean, if you look at the trajectory of the United States, you had $30 trillion national debt.

00:23:03.000 The United States seems to be cutting back on its military at precisely the time it needs to build up its military. 0.99

00:23:10.000 The United States economy seems to be put under the thumb of idiot regulators and bad legislators. 0.99

00:23:15.000 It seems that we are falling apart socially because we can't even agree on what a man or a woman is. 0.99

00:23:19.000 So, yeah, I mean, I just wonder why so many people feel negative and pessimistic about the future of the country.

00:23:24.000 And slow old Joe Biden, who's been having a great resurgence, according to the Democrats, by basically being in hiding for the last time.

00:23:30.000 And Ron Klain is bragging about it.

00:23:31.000 Ron Klain is chief of staff.

00:23:33.000 He's like, yeah, I negotiated that last deal.

00:23:35.000 Joe Biden was off sleeping in the corner.

00:23:36.000 I negotiated it.

00:23:37.000 Do Americans feel real sanguine about this?

00:23:39.000 And here's the thing.

00:23:41.000 As we find out the increased consequences of the policies that are being pursued by the Democrats, it's going to be really, really bad.

00:23:48.000 So, for example, the Democrats are currently bragging about this Inflation Reduction Act, which is not reducing inflation.

00:23:53.000 It's not designed to reduce inflation.

00:23:55.000 Now they're just renaming it and calling it the climate law, which is kind of amazing branding.

00:23:59.000 So, for example, the New York Times has a headline today.

00:24:01.000 It's called Democrats Designed the Climate Law to be a Game Changer.

00:24:03.000 Here's how.

00:24:04.000 When I first read that headline, I thought, what climate law?

00:24:08.000 Are we talking about the Inflation Reduction Act?

00:24:09.000 You know, the one that you guys named, and then insisted that, I guess, if you oppose the act, you're in favor of inflation?

00:24:16.000 Well, now they've just jettisoned the name all together.

00:24:18.000 Now it's a Climate Act.

00:24:19.000 And so what exactly is in it?

00:24:20.000 As you find out, once you actually read it, what's in it is giving regulators the power to destroy the energy industry in the United States.

00:24:27.000 So just a couple of months ago, the Supreme Court ruled that the Environmental Protection Agency was not granted the power under the Clean Air and Water Act and weren't granted that power under that act to regulate carbon emissions because carbon is not, in fact, a pollutant under that act.

00:24:42.000 So what did Congress do on a 51-50 vote with Kamala Harris as the decider?

00:24:46.000 What exactly did they just do in this Inflation Reduction Act?

00:24:49.000 They gave the power to the EPA.

00:24:50.000 They gave it explicitly to the EPA to regulate carbon emissions.

00:24:53.000 So now, we've got a bunch of bureaucrats, Anthony Fauci-like bureaucrats, deciding how factories are supposed to be run.

00:24:59.000 According to Lisa Friedman at the New York Times, quote, When the Supreme Court restricted the ability of the EPA to fight climate change this year, the reason it gave was that Congress had never granted the agency the broad authority to shift America away from burning fossil fuels.

00:25:11.000 Now it has.

00:25:12.000 Throughout the landmark climate law passed this month is language written specifically to address the Supreme Court's justification for reining in the EPA.

00:25:19.000 A ruling that was one of the court's most consequential of the term.

00:25:22.000 The new law amends the Clean Air Act, the country's bedrock air quality legislation, to define carbon dioxide produced by burning of fossil fuels as an air pollutant.

00:25:31.000 That language explicitly gives the EPA the authority to regulate greenhouse gases and to use its power to push the adoption of wind, solar, and other renewable energy sources.

00:25:39.000 Senator Tom Carper, Delaware Democrat, said, quote, The language, we think, makes it pretty clear that greenhouse gases are pollutants under the Clean Air Act.

00:25:46.000 With the new law, he added, there are no ifs, ands, or buts that Congress has told federal agencies to tackle carbon dioxide, methane, and other heat-trapping emissions from power plants, automobiles, and oil wells.

00:25:55.000 This month, in the hours before the bill passed the Senate, Republicans waged a last-minute, mostly unsuccessful, predawn battle to remove that language.

00:26:02.000 Later that day, the Senate approved the Climate and Tax Bill by a vote of 51 to 50 along party lines.

00:26:07.000 Kamala Harris casting the tie-breaking vote.

00:26:09.000 It's buried in there, said Senator Ted Cruz.

00:26:11.000 The Democrats are trying to overturn the Supreme Court's West Virginia versus EPA victory.

00:26:15.000 So, it now looks as though the EPA is going to have the ability to basically regulate carbon emissions again, just via the regulatory process.

00:26:22.000 Democrats are shoving that through.

00:26:24.000 And then somehow Democrats believe this is going to be a win for them as the energy costs keep going up on a systemic level, not based on Putin's gas tax or whatever nonsense Joe Biden is pushing on a systemic level.

00:26:37.000 As you have the EPA cracking down on carbon emissions.

00:26:41.000 Americans are going to pay the price for that. 0.90

00:26:43.000 An NBC News poll shows that the economy is still the top issue for Democrats, despite the fact that they keep suggesting that the real top issue is democracy or whatnot.

00:26:53.000 So there is a This NBC News poll goes through the sort of top issues, and one of the top issues, supposedly, is the state of our democracy.

00:27:03.000 The combined threats to our democracy.

00:27:05.000 Okay, so threats to democracy, 21%.

00:27:09.000 Say that's the most important issue facing the country.

00:27:12.000 Now, is that really what people believe?

00:27:15.000 So first of all, You can read that two ways, right?

00:27:19.000 Threats to democracy.

00:27:20.000 They've changed the actual wording of the poll from NBC News.

00:27:22.000 It used to be election integrity.

00:27:24.000 It used to be voter fraud, election integrity, right?

00:27:26.000 It used to be something that was clearly a left-wing issue.

00:27:28.000 Threats to democracy.

00:27:30.000 If you ask Republicans right now, is our democracy threatened?

00:27:32.000 I think most Republicans would probably say yes, because they believe that the FBI raid on Donald Trump's house, for example, is a threat to democracy.

00:27:39.000 So that answer is just really Too vague to be telescoped into support for Democrats.

00:27:47.000 But the next two issues are cost of living, jobs and the economy.

00:27:51.000 Combined, 30%.

00:27:52.000 That is still the top issue for most people.

00:27:56.000 Cost of living and jobs and the economy.

00:27:58.000 Okay?

00:28:01.000 After that comes immigration and the situation of the board.

00:28:03.000 That's now at 13%.

00:28:04.000 So you're now at 43%.

00:28:06.000 And again, you figure that threats to democracy split about half-half.

00:28:09.000 They're talking about over 50% of Americans for whom the top issue is not anything remotely what Democrats want it to be.

00:28:16.000 Then you get to some Democrat issues, right?

00:28:17.000 You get climate change, guns, abortion.

00:28:20.000 Those are like a combined 26% of the population that cares about those.

00:28:24.000 Coronavirus is still at 6%.

00:28:26.000 But the reality is that the issues that Americans care most about, these are ones Democrats are not doing particularly well on.

00:28:31.000 And this is the point that Henry Olson makes today over at the Washington Post.

00:28:35.000 He's pointing out that if you look at the generic congressional ballot right now, Republicans are still up.

00:28:39.000 But not just that.

00:28:40.000 If Democrats believe that bad candidate quality is going to somehow save them, that is not the history of electoral politics in the United States.

00:28:48.000 He says our elections are increasingly partisan with voters first choosing which party they back and then voting for its candidates up and down the ticket.

00:28:54.000 I went back to 2014 and compared the exit poll results for the incumbent president's job approval in those four elections to the vote share received by incumbent senators from the president's party.

00:29:03.000 The results should make Democrats tempered their expectations.

00:29:06.000 In 2014, longtime Democratic senators ran as much as nine points ahead of Obama's job approval in their state.

00:29:13.000 Most still lost, despite significantly outrunning the president.

00:29:16.000 No Democrat in a contested race ran more than 5 points ahead of Obama's job approval rating in 2016.

00:29:21.000 Partisanship increased even more in the Trump era.

00:29:24.000 9 Republican candidates in the 16 most contested Senate races in 2018 and 2020 ran within just 2 points of Trump's job approval.

00:29:31.000 Another 4 ran within 3 or 4 points.

00:29:34.000 Only 2 GOP nominees ran 10 or more points ahead or behind Trump's job approval.

00:29:39.000 These data strongly suggest the fate of this year's Democratic Senate nominees is tied to the president's job approval.

00:29:44.000 The party Senate candidates likely will run a couple of points ahead of that figure.

00:29:47.000 It may even run five points ahead of it.

00:29:48.000 That's of scant comfort when Biden's national job approval is languishing around 41%.

00:29:54.000 Also, dramatically, state polls have been exaggerating Democratic strength in recent elections.

00:30:01.000 The 538 final projections in 2020 for closed states all overestimated Democrats' performance when compared with the actual results.

00:30:07.000 Most of the errors were large, including by 2.3% in Arizona and 7.7% in Wisconsin.

00:30:14.000 The sort of optimism that is being justified by the Democrats here, in other words, is just too much.

00:30:20.000 And Donald Trump is actually seeing another surge.

00:30:23.000 So what Democrats are sort of hoping is that Donald Trump jumps into the fray right before the election.

00:30:27.000 They're hoping that Donald Trump decides that he's going to announce his electoral prospects for 2024 before the election.

00:30:33.000 And it's enough to make one think that that FBI raid on his house is almost specifically designed by Joe Biden to get him to do so.

00:30:39.000 Because again, Democrats believe the more people think about Trump, the more they vote for Democrats.

00:30:44.000 So they're perfectly happy to have Donald Trump at the center of the news.

00:30:48.000 Donald Trump has now filed a lawsuit against the FBI for the raid on his home.

00:30:53.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, former President Trump filed a lawsuit Monday seeking the appointment of a special master to review the materials seized by the FBI during a search of his Mar-a-Lago home.

00:31:01.000 He asked a judge to order investigators to immediately stop examining the items.

00:31:05.000 Trump is also seeking a more detailed inventory of the items taken from his private club in Florida earlier this year.

00:31:09.000 It's kind of fascinating that he wants the government to stop going through the documents in the first place.

00:31:14.000 I'm not sure what the legal basis would be for suggesting that the FBI can't go through the documents that it's already seized.

00:31:21.000 The lawsuit alleges the decision to raid at Mar-a-Lago a mere 90 days before the 2022 midterms involved political calculations aimed at diminishing the leading voice in the Republican Party, President Trump.

00:31:31.000 A special master is a third party, usually a retired judge, who reviews evidence to determine whether it is protected by attorney-client privilege, executive privilege, or similar legal doctrines.

00:31:39.000 Trump's lawyers wrote the appointment of a special master as the only appropriate action, and the U.S.

00:31:43.000 should be ordered to cease review of the seized materials immediately.

00:31:47.000 Justice Department spokesman Anthony Coley said the August 8th search warrant at Mar-a-Lago was authorized by a federal court.

00:31:52.000 The department is aware of the evening's motion.

00:31:54.000 The U.S.

00:31:54.000 will file its response in court.

00:31:56.000 Investigators have already set up what is known as a filter team, a separate group of agents and lawyers to review the materials and to determine whether any of them are protected by such privileges before they are provided to the investigators.

00:32:07.000 The DOJ already contacted Trump's legal team to return one active and two expired passports that were found in containers seized during the search, according to officials.

00:32:15.000 Now, there is another piece to this puzzle, and that is, I have to say, the DOJ and the FBI, it is amazing how leaky they are.

00:32:25.000 I mean, suspicious how leaky they are.

00:32:27.000 For a supposedly apolitical group of people, they seem to be extraordinarily political when it comes to what they choose to leak to the media.

00:32:35.000 So now we have details in the New York Times about what exactly was in those classified documents that apparently Trump was hiding in his basement or something.

00:32:42.000 Well, Trump has filed a lawsuit against the FBI for the search on Mar-a-Lago.

00:32:47.000 How did he know that happened?

00:32:48.000 Well, because they served him a warrant.

00:32:49.000 But if somebody were to break into your house, would they serve you a warrant?

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00:34:33.000 Alrighty, so, meanwhile, the FBI and the DOJ, these supposedly apolitical branches, they are leaking like sieves to the New York Times, according to Maggie Haberman, Jody Cancer, Adam Goldman, and Ben Protest over at the New York Times, the initial batch of documents retrieved by the National Archives from former President Trump in January included more than 150 marked as classified, a number that ignited intense concern at the DOJ and helped trigger the criminal investigation that led FBI agents to swoop into Mar-a-Lago this month, seeking to recover more, multiple people briefed on the matter said.

00:35:00.000 In total, the government has recovered more than 300 documents with classified markings from Trump since he left office, the People said.

00:35:05.000 That first batch of documents returned in January, another set provided by Mr. Trump's aides to the DOJ in June, and the material seized by the FBI in the search this month.

00:35:14.000 The previously unreported volume of the sensitive material found in the former president's possession in January helps explain why the Justice Department moved so urgently to hunt down any further classified materials he might have.

00:35:23.000 By the way, by urgently, I assume you mean not taking seven months?

00:35:27.000 I may not be an expert in chronology, but it seems like if you return documents in January, and then you realize in January that he's got a bunch of classified stuff, and you wait until, you know, late July, August, to actually raid him, that seems like a rather large delay for a national security emergency on the basis of a non-criminal violation of the Presidential Records Act.

00:35:48.000 The extent to which such a large number of highly sensitive documents remained at Mar-a-Lago for months, even as the department sought the return of all material that should have been left in government custody when Trump left office, according to the New York Times, suggested to officials the former president or his aides had been cavalier in handling it, not fully forthcoming with investigators or both.

00:36:03.000 Wait, you mean Donald Trump was cavalier with the rules?

00:36:06.000 My God! 0.99

00:36:06.000 I mean, next you're going to tell me that Rosie O'Donnell is a lesbian. 0.99

00:36:09.000 I mean, I just don't know what to think anymore. 0.68

00:36:11.000 Donald Trump cavalier with the rules?

00:36:13.000 Probably we should lock him up.

00:36:14.000 Probably that's the solution, guys.

00:36:15.000 It's totally apolitical.

00:36:17.000 The specific nature of the sensitive material Trump took from the White House remains unclear, but the 15 boxes Mr. Trump turned over to the archives in January, nearly a year after he left office, included documents from the CIA, NSA, and FBI spanning a variety of topics of national security interest.

00:36:31.000 Trump went through the boxes himself in late 2021, according to multiple people briefed on his efforts before turning them over.

00:36:37.000 The highly sensitive nature of some of the material in the boxes prompted archives officials to refer the matter to the DOJ.

00:36:43.000 Aides to Mr. Trump turned over a few dozen additional sensitive documents during a visit to Mar-a-Lago by DOJ officials in early June.

00:36:49.000 At the conclusion of the search this month, officials left with 26 boxes.

00:36:52.000 One set of boxes had the highest level of classification, top secret, sensitive, compartmented information.

00:36:58.000 Even after the extraordinary decision by the FBI to execute a search warrant, investigators have sought additional surveillance footage from the club.

00:37:04.000 Apparently, they are worried that people were sort of going in and out of the area where the boxes were, including Trump himself, kind of sorting out what he wanted to hand over and what he did not want to hand over.

00:37:15.000 Among the items they knew were missing were Trump's original letters from North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un, and they know Barack Obama had left Trump before he left office.

00:37:21.000 Wait, so we're going to arrest him based on, like, documents that we know exist and aren't actually top secret because they were published at the time?

00:37:28.000 That's the stuff?

00:37:29.000 Really?

00:37:31.000 Apparently, the surveillance video from inside Mar-a-Lago showed that there were people who were sort of going in and out of the area.

00:37:39.000 On June 22nd, the DOJ subpoenaed the Trump Organization for Mar-a-Lago security footage that included a well-trafficked hallway outside the storage area.

00:37:46.000 The club had surveillance footage going back 60 days for some areas of the property.

00:37:50.000 While much of the video showed hours of club employees walking through the busy corridor, some of it raised concerns.

00:37:56.000 It revealed people moving boxes in and out, and in some cases appearing to change the containers some documents were held in.

00:38:01.000 The footage also showed other parts of the property.

00:38:04.000 Federal officials have indicated their initial goal had been to secure any classified documents that Trump was holding at Mar-a-Lago.

00:38:09.000 A combination of witness interviews and initial security footage led DOJ to begin drafting a request for a search warrant.

00:38:16.000 Well, this still raises the question as to the broadness, the depth of the search warrant.

00:38:21.000 David Rivkin and Lee Casey have a piece at the Wall Street Journal talking about the depth of the search warrant today.

00:38:28.000 They say, was the FBI justified in searching Trump's residence in Mar-a-Lago?

00:38:32.000 The judge who issued the warrant for Mar-a-Lago has signaled he is likely to release a redacted version of the affidavit.

00:38:36.000 But the warrant itself suggests the answer is likely no.

00:38:39.000 The FBI had no legally valid cause for the raid.

00:38:41.000 The warrant authorized the FBI to seize all physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed.

00:38:48.000 These three criminal statutes all address the possession and handling of materials that contain national security info, public records, or material relevant to an investigation.

00:38:57.000 The materials to be seized included any government and or presidential records at all during Trump's term of office.

00:39:03.000 Virtually all the materials are likely to fall within this category.

00:39:06.000 Federal law gives Trump a right of access to them.

00:39:08.000 His possession of them is entirely consistent with that right.

00:39:12.000 Trump's documents are also covered by a specific statute.

00:39:15.000 It's long been the Supreme Court position that where there is no clear intention otherwise a specific statute will not be controlled or nullified by a general one.

00:39:21.000 The former president's rights under the PRA trump any application of the laws the FBI warrants cites.

00:39:27.000 The Presidential Records Act dramatically changed the rules regarding ownership and treatment of presidential documents.

00:39:32.000 Presidents from George Washington through Jimmy Carter treated the White House papers as their personal property.

00:39:36.000 Neither Congress nor the courts disputed that.

00:39:39.000 In Nixon versus the United States, the U.S.

00:39:41.000 Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia held Nixon had a right to compensation for his presidential papers.

00:39:48.000 The PRA established a unique statutory scheme balancing the needs of government, former presidents, and history.

00:39:53.000 The law declares presidential records public property.

00:39:56.000 The PRA lays out detailed requirements for how the archivist is to administer the records, handle privileged claims, make the record public, etc.

00:40:03.000 But the PRA does not address the process by which a former president's records are physically to be turned over to the archivist.

00:40:09.000 The bottom line here is that even if the government has an interest in how classified materials are kept, it appears the FBI was initially satisfied with the installation of an additional lock on the relevant Mar-a-Lago storage room.

00:40:19.000 If that was insufficient, the Bureau should have sought a less intrusive judicial remedy and a search warrant.

00:40:25.000 But the bottom line here is that it seems as though they decided to go completely off the deep end for a particular reason, and that is they are searching for some document that we have not yet heard about, right?

00:40:34.000 There's another shoe that's going to drop here.

00:40:37.000 And pretending this is all about the mishandling of classified information is obviously a misdirect.

00:40:41.000 This is not about the handling of classified information.

00:40:43.000 This is largely about trying to find something that links Donald Trump to January 6th.

00:40:47.000 That is what this is about.

00:40:50.000 There's no other reason why the search warrant would be this broad.

00:40:53.000 If it were just about classified documents, then presumably the warrant would be about classified documents.

00:40:58.000 That's not what the warrant said.

00:40:59.000 It said any presidential records at all during this time.

00:41:03.000 Anybody, by the way, who's attempting to compare what happened with Donald Trump to what happened with Hillary Clinton neglects the simple fact that Hillary Clinton was the Secretary of State, not the President of the United States.

00:41:10.000 She would not have the ability to unilaterally declassify material in the same way the President of the United States does.

00:41:15.000 She would not have access to records in the same way the President of the United States does. 0.79

00:41:19.000 Doesn't mean Trump didn't do anything wrong, doesn't mean he didn't mishandle classified documents.

00:41:23.000 It does mean that if we're going to activate something like this, it's got to be on a stronger basis than, we need the letter that Kim Jong-un wrote to Donald Trump.

00:41:30.000 I'm sorry, that's not going to cut it.

00:41:32.000 And then you wonder why so many people who are on the Republican side of the aisle are looking at our elite institutions staffed with career bureaucrats and thinking, maybe I don't trust these people.

00:41:41.000 Maybe we should not give this much power to this many people.

00:41:47.000 As Rich Lowry points out at the New York Times today, if you compared this to what would happen if a Democrat, former president, were raided by a Republican president, there's no question how badly this would go in the media.

00:41:58.000 But it's Trump, so everything and anything is apparently okay when Trump is the one with the target painted on his back.

00:42:05.000 Alrighty folks, we've reached the end of the show.

00:42:06.000 We'll be back here tomorrow with much more.

00:42:08.000 Hopefully my voice is better by then.

00:42:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

The Ben Shapiro Show - August 23, 2022

Goodbye To Dr. Fauci, And Don’t Let The Door Hit You On The Way Out | Ep. 1560

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