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How Hillary and Obama Wrecked The Democratic Party | Ep. 409


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A bombshell report from former head of the DNC Donna Brazile tears the Democratic National Committee apart. We ll talk about it, plus the Republican tax bill, and President Trump goes after immigration. Ben Shapiro is the host of the Ben Shapiro Show on the Fox News Channel and host of The Ben Shapiro Podcast. He is a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, CBS, and other media outlets, and is a frequent guest on CNN and CNN Worldwide. His name is Ben Shapiro, and he is the author of the book, "Inside the Swamp: The Inside Story of the Deep State," which is out now and will be available for pre-order on Amazon Prime and Vimeo on November 15th. Thanks to our sponsor, Dollar Shave Club, for sponsoring the show. DollarShave Club is a high-quality, high-performance shave and body care company that specializes in shaving, body care, and hair care products. They use only the finest premium ingredients, and deliver it directly to you just like you do in your shower, and they deliver it to your face, body, and neck! So no longer do you have to make trips to the store trying to figure out what all these things do. Now is a great time to give Dollar Shaving Club a try! - you can get your first month of their best shaving sets for just $5, plus all of their other awesome products, for just a few bucks a month! Get your starter set for $5.99. After that, you get your Starter Set, and that's worth of shaving and body cleanser, plus some other awesome stuff! Plus, replacement cartridges ship for a little more than $5! Get yours for a few hundred bucks! And that's what you'll ever have, starting with $5 exclusively at DollarShavingClub. Get yours, starting now! and that s what you ll be able to be your best shave club, and you'll be just as good, you'll never have to figure it out, right there, no longer have to go anywhere else! ...and that s just like that, right? It s the DDS Starter Set! . Thanks, Ben Shapiro - Ben Shapiro's is the Show and Ben Shapiro - The ...Ben Shapiro - The Ben Show, The Show - Ben on the .


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00:00:00.000 Well, there's a new bombshell report out today from the former head of the DNC, tearing the DNC apart.
00:00:05.000 We'll talk about it, plus the Republican tax bill and President Trump goes after immigration.
00:00:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:09.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:15.000 Alrighty, so this Donna Brazile report in Politico is pretty astonishing for a number of reasons.
00:00:21.000 I'm going to go through them, and it just demonstrates how in the tank the media were for the Democratic Party, that so little of this came out over the past couple of years during the center of the election cycle.
00:00:32.000 It does demonstrate also how in the tank the DNC was for Hillary Clinton and how Bernie Sanders really got jobbed.
00:00:37.000 And furthermore, it demonstrates why Bernie Sanders is the future of the party.
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00:01:56.000 Okay, so we begin with this bombshell report from Donna Brazile.
00:02:02.000 So you remember Donna Brazile.
00:02:03.000 Donna Brazile was a CNN commentator, former part of the Al Gore campaign in 2000, and she was made interim head of the Democratic National Committee after Debbie Wasserman Schultz was basically ousted for handing the DNC over to Hillary Clinton and using it as a weapon against Bernie Sanders.
00:02:17.000 And Donna Brazile had already at that point, I believe, been leaking questions to Hillary Clinton, debate questions to Hillary Clinton from the CNN desk.
00:02:26.000 Before the debate, she was actually let out of her CNN contract.
00:02:28.000 She was essentially fired, as I recall.
00:02:31.000 And she is now coming out trying to explain that she is not at fault, right?
00:02:36.000 She is fine.
00:02:36.000 It's just the DNC that was a wreck.
00:02:39.000 And what she has to say about the Democratic National Committee really does demonstrate that the sort of division that I was talking about, I've been talking about for a year now on this show, the tripartite division inside the DNC, the division between Hillary followers, Obama followers, and Bernie followers is very real, and that Bernie is actually winning this battle.
00:02:56.000 So here are some of the revelations from Donna Brazile's piece at Politico.
00:03:00.000 This is from her new book that is coming out shortly.
00:03:03.000 First of all, Brazile is obviously trying to shield herself.
00:03:06.000 She's obviously doing the, I'm shocked, shocked to find there's gambling going on here routine.
00:03:10.000 She portrays herself as Hercule Poirot, as Encyclopedia Brown, entering the situation and trying to determine where the malfeasance has been at the DNC, like she didn't know.
00:03:22.000 She talks in this article about it's a week before the election, and she's been sussing out how Bernie Sanders got screwed, and she is just so devastated by it.
00:03:29.000 She says, I love this, she says, before I called Bernie Sanders, I lit a candle in my living room and put on some gospel music.
00:03:35.000 I wanted to censor myself for what I knew would be an emotional phone call.
00:03:39.000 I mean, really, if you're going to write a movie about yourself, try not to make it so cliché, Donna.
00:03:43.000 Really?
00:03:44.000 You put on candles?
00:03:45.000 You lit candles and put on gospel music?
00:03:48.000 Really?
00:03:50.000 Come on, I guess if she'd been the villain, she would have put on Beethoven.
00:03:53.000 Right?
00:03:53.000 That's the way that all the bad movies work.
00:03:55.000 In any case...
00:03:56.000 This is the same lady who, as I say, leaked debate questions to Hillary, now claiming that she was trying to just bring honesty to the Democratic National Committee.
00:04:03.000 Debbie Wasserman Schultz, her predecessor, was a disaster who turned the entire party over to Hillary, according to Brazil.
00:04:08.000 She says,
00:04:17.000 As Hillary's campaign gained momentum, she resolved the party's debt and put it on a starvation diet.
00:04:21.000 It had become dependent on her campaign for survival, for which she expected to wield controls of its operations.
00:04:26.000 So according to Brazil, basically what happened is that the Democratic Party had run up on hard times.
00:04:31.000 Obama had cleaned the place out.
00:04:33.000 And Debbie Wasserman Schultz didn't want to do the fundraising, so instead she went to Hillary and said, you do all the fundraising, you fill back in that hole, you backfill that gap in our funding, and I'll let you run the DNC, basically.
00:04:44.000 This is according to Donna Brazile.
00:04:46.000 All the Bernie people who are complaining that the thing was rigged, all of Trump's statements that it was rigged against Bernie, all of that was true.
00:04:52.000 Third point here, Obama cleaned out the party.
00:04:54.000 So for all of the talk about how Barack Obama was the great savior of the Democratic Party, the new FDR, the man who had revitalized the Democratic Party, not only did Obama devastate the Democratic Party down ballot, losing over 1,000 state seats in legislatures across the country, losing 13 gubernatorial seats, losing 12 Senate seats,
00:05:12.000 Not only did he do all of those things, he also cleaned them out financially.
00:05:15.000 Brazil says that by the time she took over the DNC, the Democratic Party was broke and $2 million in debt.
00:05:21.000 This is in the middle of an election cycle where Hillary is raising oodles and gobs of cash.
00:05:27.000 According to Brazil, Obama, after 2012, left the party $24 million in debt.
00:05:34.000 $24 million in debt.
00:05:36.000 Barack Obama, that great beacon of light for the Democratic Party, he basically bankrupted the party.
00:05:42.000 And his campaign said they wouldn't pay it off until 2016.
00:05:46.000 So what did they do?
00:05:47.000 Wasserman Schultz had grown the staff.
00:05:49.000 She actually grew the staff.
00:05:50.000 She didn't cut, she didn't put the party on a starvation diet.
00:05:52.000 She grew the staff and allowed the DNC to pick up the check for Obama consultants.
00:05:57.000 So Obama had already run the party into the ground, but the DNC was continuing to pay using the credit card for all of Obama's consultants, which is pretty amazing.
00:06:04.000 So what happened?
00:06:05.000 They turned it over to Hillary, and Hillary was supposed to come in and fill in the gap.
00:06:08.000 So Hillary used that debt to pick up power.
00:06:11.000 Gary Gensler, who is the chief financial officer of the Hillary campaign, apparently, quote, And here's where you get into some dicey territory.
00:06:17.000 Hillary Clinton was apparently using the DNC
00:06:34.000 Almost.
00:06:35.000 Almost to launder money.
00:06:36.000 I mean, not in a strict legal sense, but in a sort of colloquial sense.
00:06:39.000 She was basically using the DNC to launder money.
00:06:41.000 Here's what Brazil explains.
00:06:43.000 She says, Instead, it all went right back into campaigning for Hillary.
00:06:51.000 Brazil says when the Politico story described this arrangement as quote, essentially money laundering for the Clinton campaign, Hillary's people were outraged at being accused of doing something shady.
00:07:00.000 Bernie's people were angry for their own reasons, saying this was part of a calculated strategy to throw the nomination to Hillary.
00:07:06.000 Which of course it was.
00:07:07.000 All the money was coming into the DNC vis-a-vis Hillary, and it wasn't being used for Democratic Party operations, it was being used to campaign for Hillary Rodham Clinton personally.
00:07:16.000 So they let Hillary have run of the shop, and she immediately corrupted the DNC in the same way that she corrupted the State Department, in the same way the Clinton Foundation was corrupt.
00:07:23.000 All of which leads to the sixth point here.
00:07:25.000 Bernie got completely jobbed.
00:07:27.000 Okay, Bernie got completely jobbed.
00:07:28.000 If the DNC had not handed all of its operations over to Hillary, to the point where Hillary for America was basically running the DNC from Brooklyn, from her Brooklyn offices, every press release from the DNC apparently had to be vetted through Hillary's office.
00:07:42.000 If that had not been happening, Bernie probably wins the nomination, or at the very least, it's an extraordinarily close race, even closer than it ended up being.
00:07:50.000 Brazil basically admits that Hillary was in charge of the DNC from August 2015.
00:07:55.000 August 2015.
00:07:56.000 The first primaries didn't take place until January 2016.
00:07:59.000 So before Bernie was even seriously running, the party had been turned over to Hillary Clinton, a candidate for the nomination, which is insane.
00:08:06.000 Brazil says, quote,
00:08:07.000 And all of this leads to the final point here.
00:08:09.000 It is very obvious that Bernie Sanders lost the battle in 2016, but he absolutely won the war.
00:08:27.000 If Bernie had won the nomination, maybe he doesn't beat Trump.
00:08:30.000 Maybe he's just a crazed old loon bag socialist from Vermont who couldn't defeat Donald Trump and Hillary is sitting somewhere crying into her beer and we get Hillary running again in 2020.
00:08:39.000 But Bernie Sanders didn't win the nomination.
00:08:41.000 And now the widespread perception, apparently correct, is that Bernie Sanders was cheated out of the nomination by the Democratic Party establishment.
00:08:48.000 And so Bernie can now run as the anti-establishment outsider again in 2020 and as the loyal soldier.
00:08:53.000 Because according to Brazil, she went to Bernie with all of this one week prior to the election.
00:08:56.000 Bernie didn't say, I want to blow this up or I'm going to go public with this.
00:08:59.000 Instead, Bernie swallowed hard and he said, I'm going to campaign for Hillary against Trump.
00:09:04.000 If Bernie runs for the nomination in 2020, he will win the nomination in 2020, and he may win the presidency, which is very scary for the country, very frightening for the country.
00:09:13.000 But Bernie Sanders is now where the power lies in the Democratic Party, and Brazil is making that clear.
00:09:17.000 Donna Brazile is a political animal.
00:09:19.000 Donna Brazile is a political survivor.
00:09:21.000 And what she is doing here is she is basically tossing Hillary Clinton to the wolves so that she can get in good with the Bernie Sanders folks, who she feels are the next wave in the Democratic Party.
00:09:29.000 And you can see this.
00:09:31.000 All of the major Democratic players in 2020 are already endorsing Medicare for All.
00:09:35.000 They're already moving along Bernie Sanders' lines, trying to outflank Bernie Sanders.
00:09:39.000 Good luck with that.
00:09:40.000 Their only hope is that Bernie stays out of the primaries in 2020 and then endorses someone.
00:09:45.000 That is their only hope.
00:09:46.000 If Bernie runs in 2020, he will win the Democratic nomination.
00:09:50.000 He will defeat Joe Biden.
00:09:51.000 He will defeat Kamala Harris, for sure.
00:09:54.000 Bernie Sanders will have the power of revenge behind him, plus Bernie Sanders has a better feel for what voters want to hear in some of the swing states that Hillary lost than Hillary Clinton's in.
00:10:03.000 There's a significant possibility that Bernie Sanders is president in 2020 because of Hillary Clinton.
00:10:08.000 If that's not scary to you, then you haven't been following Bernie Sanders' career in any significant way.
00:10:13.000 So that's the news out of Democratic land, where they've torn each other apart.
00:10:17.000 Bernie Sanders owns the party because Hillary Clinton corrupted the party and Barack Obama bankrupted the party.
00:10:24.000 And Bernie Sanders is the only solution?
00:10:26.000 Pretty amazing stuff.
00:10:27.000 Pretty amazing switch from a guy who was at the fringe of the Democratic Party to basically now being the center of gravity inside of it.
00:10:33.000 Well, I want to talk a little bit about the new tax proposal that Republicans just put out.
00:10:37.000 I think it's quite good, but it's quite bad for people like me.
00:10:39.000 I'll explain why that is in just a second.
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00:12:06.000 So, back to the Republican tax plan here.
00:12:09.000 So the Republicans have now released their tax plan.
00:12:11.000 And it's got some good stuff, and it's got some bad stuff.
00:12:13.000 Basically, if you're in California and you own a home, you're screwed.
00:12:16.000 This is basically how this works.
00:12:18.000 If you're anywhere else in the country, this plan is probably quite good for you.
00:12:21.000 But if you are in California, you just get...
00:12:24.000 Jobbed by this plan if you're in the upper tax bracket.
00:12:26.000 So for people like me, I'm in top tax bracket in California.
00:12:29.000 That means I am just going to get nailed.
00:12:31.000 I would vote for this tax plan anyway because I think the tax plan is quite good.
00:12:34.000 So here's what the tax plan does.
00:12:35.000 It lowers the corporate tax rate from 35% to 20%.
00:12:36.000 This is a good thing.
00:12:39.000 It also lowers the pass-through tax rate on what they call S-corporations from close to 40% down to 25%, which is also a good thing because our corporate tax rates are the highest in the industrialized world.
00:12:51.000 They are higher than France, they are higher than Japan, they are higher than the UK, they are higher than Germany.
00:12:55.000 Bring it down to 20% would put us right in the middle of the pack.
00:12:58.000 That is a good thing.
00:12:59.000 It also narrows the tax brackets.
00:13:01.000 Right now there's seven tax brackets.
00:13:03.000 This would get rid of four of them.
00:13:06.000 It would bring it down to, or it would get rid of three of them rather, it would bring it down to four tax brackets as opposed to seven.
00:13:12.000 It would actually negatively impact people who are making over $400,000 a year.
00:13:16.000 If you were making over $400,000 a year, then you are paying 39.6% in the, sorry, if you're paying
00:13:27.000 No matter what, you're paying 40% tax bracket if you're making about $420,000 a year.
00:13:33.000 This new program would lift that cap to $500,000 a year, but it would also make it that if you're making more than $400,000 a year, you're paying a 35% tax as opposed to a 33% tax.
00:13:41.000 So it raises taxes slightly for people in that tax bracket, but then increases the next station on the belt.
00:13:45.000 So if you're making
00:13:53.000 Precisely $500,000, this is not necessarily a good deal for you.
00:13:57.000 If you're making more than $500,000, then the deal is probably fine for you.
00:14:00.000 You don't really lose much through it.
00:14:02.000 If you are making below $200,000 a year, your taxes go down no matter what tax bracket you're in.
00:14:08.000 If you make under $37,000 a year, your tax bracket goes down from $15,000 to $12,000.
00:14:12.000 If you are making under $200,000 a year, your tax bracket goes down from $28,000 to $25,000.
00:14:17.000 The capital gains and dividend tax rates stay exactly the same.
00:14:20.000 The estate tax is basically chopped in half.
00:14:23.000 So, if you are, right now, you pay, the estate tax I think is evil.
00:14:27.000 This idea the government gets to raid your coffin for cash.
00:14:30.000 You die.
00:14:31.000 The government immediately runs into your safe and just takes out the money that you've already paid taxes on.
00:14:36.000 Pretty terrible, but...
00:14:38.000 Right now what this plan would do is to take the estate tax which is 40% on estates above $5.5 million and doubles it so that the estate tax only applies on estates above $11.2 million and then in 2024 it just is eliminated completely.
00:14:51.000 It just goes away completely so no more estate tax which of course is the proper
00:14:55.000 Solution considering that anybody who knows what they're doing with taxes simply signs a living will and then they don't have to pay an estate tax Anyway, right a living will just allows you to essentially transfer your assets over before your death to your children So that way they're not inheriting from you.
00:15:08.000 It's only inheritance that they get screwed here The GOP tax plan does repeal the deduction for state and local income and sales taxes This is why I say if you're in California, you're screwed.
00:15:16.000 Okay now
00:15:18.000 I don't think this is a bad thing.
00:15:19.000 I think it's a bad thing for me, right?
00:15:20.000 I think I'm in trouble here because California has a 10% state income tax, which is insane.
00:15:27.000 So basically, the way that it used to work is that I would take that as a deduction against my federal tax.
00:15:31.000 Now I can't do that anymore under the Republican tax plan.
00:15:34.000 So basically, if I'm in the top tax bracket, or at least the portion of my income that's in the top tax bracket, I'm going to be paying 39.6% on that, and then I'm going to be paying an additional 10% on that from the state of California.
00:15:45.000 Right?
00:15:45.000 Which is pretty insane.
00:15:46.000 So I'm paying 50% of all that money to the state or federal government, which is pretty crazy.
00:15:50.000 Especially because, as I've said, I don't agree with tax plans that increase taxes on people who are wealthy, because the people who are making a lot of money are also the people who are investing a lot of money, saving a lot of money, and allowing free commerce to flourish.
00:16:02.000 That it also allows a deduction for property taxes, but it caps it at $10,000.
00:16:07.000 So again, it punishes people in California.
00:16:09.000 California has some pretty significant property taxes, even though it's been capped by Prop 13.
00:16:13.000 In places like Massachusetts, which have a huge property tax, that is going to just destroy them.
00:16:18.000 The purpose here, on a political level, is to force a lot of the blue states to reconsider whether their taxes should be quite this high.
00:16:25.000 And it is not fair that Texas has been basically paying the freight for California through this particular tax deduction.
00:16:32.000 Republicans are going to curtail the deductions.
00:16:33.000 This is according to the Wall Street Journal.
00:16:35.000 Individuals take for state and local tax payments and the ones businesses get for the interest they pay on debt.
00:16:40.000 But it doesn't charge the 401k savings accounts, which is good.
00:16:43.000 It also calls for leaving the top individual tax rate at 40%, but pushing the income threshold to $1 million for married couples.
00:16:50.000 There are some holes that I think Democrats are going to try and exploit here.
00:16:55.000 The holes they're going to try and exploit are, again, the failure to take into account state income taxes, and also that it gets rid of deductions for medical expenses.
00:17:04.000 So people who have HSAs don't really have to worry about it, but if you have a serious medical problem and you're paying lots of money, and now you can't take that deduction in the same number as you were before, that is going to hurt you.
00:17:14.000 And that's where the Democrats are going to attack.
00:17:16.000 They're going to say, you're killing Obamacare already, and now you're trying to take away my deduction for the medical care.
00:17:20.000 Why are you punishing people who have health problems?
00:17:22.000 That's where the Democrat line of attack is likely to come.
00:17:27.000 So as I say, there are a couple of political landmines.
00:17:31.000 Also, speaking of people who it's going to hurt in California and Massachusetts, the bill limits the home mortgage interest deduction.
00:17:37.000 So right now, you can take a home mortgage interest deduction for loans up to a million dollars.
00:17:42.000 Now, it would only be deductible on loans up to $500,000.
00:17:45.000 Well, that's not just, you know, that's not just rich people in the state of California.
00:17:49.000 Basically, any home in a major city in the state of California, any single family home in the state of California, you're taking a loan above $500,000.
00:17:56.000 The average price for a three bedroom in like LA is probably $750.
00:18:01.000 So that's going to hurt some people who are middle class.
00:18:04.000 And because of the larger standard deduction, so the standard deduction has gone up.
00:18:07.000 That's kind of the max deduction you can give.
00:18:10.000 Fewer people would have a tax incentive to make charitable deductions.
00:18:13.000 So, you used to give charitable deductions in order to increase your itemization.
00:18:16.000 That is going to go away a little bit.
00:18:19.000 Life insurers lose some tax breaks.
00:18:20.000 Bank with assets exceeding $50 billion would get no deduction.
00:18:23.000 Tax exempt—this is good, actually.
00:18:25.000 Tax exempt bonds can no longer get a tax deduction for building professional sports stadiums.
00:18:30.000 No more subsidizing the stupid L.A.
00:18:33.000 football teams to build more stadiums.
00:18:35.000 No more of that.
00:18:37.000 Overall, this is quite a good tax plan.
00:18:39.000 I think that it does pick and choose in some areas that I don't exactly love.
00:18:43.000 It retains the earned income tax credit, which is basically a welfare program.
00:18:47.000 It also increases the child tax credit, but not as much as people like Mike Lee and Marco Rubio have suggested.
00:18:53.000 Under current law, a married couple with two children making $60,000 would get a $13,000 standard deduction and four personal exemptions worth $4,100, $4,150.
00:19:02.000 That means they pay taxes on $30,000 of taxable income, which means that they are only going to be paying a very small tax bill as opposed to a significantly larger tax bill.
00:19:11.000 So, bottom line is that it does lower taxes for virtually everyone except the people who are at the top of the income spectrum and people living in states like California and Massachusetts.
00:19:21.000 Will Trump have a majority for this?
00:19:23.000 It's going to be difficult for him to cobble together a majority for anything, particularly because there's the say no to anything Trump wants caucus now, which may or may not include people like John McCain, Jeff Flake, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins.
00:19:34.000 We'll see how bad the blowback is from the Democrats.
00:19:37.000 What's interesting about this proposal is because Trump is not actually giving tax breaks to people at the upper end of the income spectrum like me, it's going to be difficult for the Democrats to say that he's attempting to create tax cuts for the rich at the expense of people lower in the income scale, because that simply is not true.
00:19:53.000 Okay, so there is your tax breakdown.
00:19:56.000 I want to talk a little bit more about immigration and President Trump's plans there on where he is right and why he's right, but not for quite the right reasons.
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00:21:29.000 So yesterday I was talking about this New York terror attack.
00:21:31.000 I want to make a correction to something that I said sort of in the heat of the moment.
00:21:34.000 I got a fact wrong.
00:21:35.000 I said there are more people who have been killed by white supremacist terror attacks in the United States since 2001 than Islamist terrorist attacks.
00:21:41.000 That, of course, is not true.
00:21:42.000 There have been more white supremacist attacks than Islamist terror attacks overall, but the number of people who have been killed in Islamist terror attacks is greater than the number of people killed in white supremacist terror attacks because there are places like Orlando,
00:21:54.000 Where he had 59 people killed, or I think it was 59, right, who were killed in Orlando.
00:21:59.000 I'd have to check the number, but a solid number of people who were killed in the Orlando nightclub shooting.
00:22:06.000 That was an Islamic terror attack.
00:22:08.000 58 non-fatal injuries, 50 deaths, including the perpetrator.
00:22:11.000 So, more deaths in Islamist terror attacks, more attacks by white supremacists.
00:22:14.000 Okay, so I wanted to correct the record on that, because I think it's important to correct ourselves when we make mistakes.
00:22:19.000 I also said yesterday that I didn't think that it was the right time to talk about immigration policy, mainly because I think that the immigration policies Trump is espousing are exactly correct, but we have to do this outside the heat of a terror attack.
00:22:30.000 And here is the reason why.
00:22:31.000 I want to show you.
00:22:32.000 So here is Laura Ingraham making the argument that Trump was making yesterday with regard to immigration policy.
00:22:37.000 Now remember, I agree with Laura Ingraham's argument on the immigration policy.
00:22:40.000 I agree with Trump's argument on the immigration policy.
00:22:42.000 But I think the justification you're about to hear Laura Ingraham use here is actually a really problematic one.
00:22:48.000 Although we can't stop all terror attacks in the United States, the safety of the American people demand that we do what we can to stop those attacks that are preventable.
00:22:58.000 9-11 should have made it obvious to everyone that Islam has a hideous radicalization problem.
00:23:06.000 Donald Trump put the onus on Muslim leaders on his first foreign trip to get their houses in order and reform from within.
00:23:13.000 Here at home, we should not lose one more American life because politicians don't have the nerve or the will to do what's necessary to secure the homeland.
00:23:25.000 Our safety is their primary responsibility.
00:23:28.000 Okay, so here's the problem with what she's saying to a certain extent.
00:23:30.000 Of course, we should take policies that minimize terror attacks.
00:23:33.000 But this basically boils down to, we cannot lose one more life.
00:23:40.000 That's essentially what she's saying here.
00:23:41.000 She's basically saying, we cannot lose one more life.
00:23:44.000 You know, if this even saves one more American life, right?
00:23:47.000 She says, here at home we should not lose one more American life because politicians don't have the nerve or will to do what's necessary to secure the homeland.
00:23:53.000 That last line, we shouldn't lose one more life, that's the exact same line that gun control advocates use when they're talking about banning guns, right?
00:24:00.000 If it saves just one life.
00:24:02.000 Well, I hate that logic because pretty much everything could save just one life.
00:24:05.000 Right?
00:24:06.000 I mean, if we ban cars, would that save just one life?
00:24:08.000 It'd save tens of thousands of lives in all likelihood.
00:24:11.000 Right?
00:24:11.000 Should we ban knives?
00:24:11.000 I mean, if we did that, presumably we'd save some lives.
00:24:14.000 Should we ban swimming pools or buckets?
00:24:15.000 Right?
00:24:15.000 There are lots of things we can do to save just one life.
00:24:17.000 The question is, is that good policy or not?
00:24:19.000 So, I think Trump's recommendations on policy here are basically correct, but I think that using the logic of terror attacks in order to push for particular
00:24:28.000 Policy changes.
00:24:29.000 The problem with using terror attacks is the same as the problem with using mass shootings.
00:24:33.000 Statistically speaking, they are an anomaly.
00:24:35.000 That does not mean we shouldn't take policies that minimize them, but if you're going to use that to justify broad policy changes...
00:24:41.000 Then, you know, I think that you're gonna end up in a world of hurt because the logic itself supports bad policy as well as good policy.
00:24:47.000 You really only want logic that supports good policy.
00:24:49.000 Plus, we now know there are red flags about this guy.
00:24:52.000 As always, there are red flags.
00:24:53.000 One of the things that's amazing is that, you know, when they released the JFK documents, it showed that the government
00:24:58.000 was really nervous about releasing those documents.
00:25:00.000 I think the reason the government is really nervous about releasing those documents is they had all sorts of red flags on Oswald.
00:25:05.000 For the same reason the government was nervous about the 9-11 report.
00:25:08.000 For the same reason the government is always nervous whenever there's a terror attack and a report on it.
00:25:12.000 There's always the problem of, we botched our job.
00:25:14.000 That is usually a more plausible explanation for why there was some sort of terror attack or some sort of shooting or some sort of assassination.
00:25:22.000 A botch in the middle, right?
00:25:23.000 A policy that was already on the books was not enforced.
00:25:25.000 That's almost always a more plausible explanation for why something happened than a broad-based policy failure.
00:25:31.000 So the question here is, what is the broad-based policy failure?
00:25:33.000 So there are a couple of broad-based policy failures here, but they are failures not because of an anomalous terror attack.
00:25:39.000 They are failures because these broad-based policies have writ broad-based changes in American social standards and cultures and mores, right?
00:25:46.000 So here is Trump yesterday talking about chain migration with this New York City terrorist.
00:25:50.000 And what he's saying about chain migration is absolutely true as a general matter.
00:25:53.000 And we want to get rid of chain migration.
00:25:58.000 This man that came in, or whatever you want to call him, brought in with him other people.
00:26:08.000 And he was the point of contact, the primary point of contact, for, and this is preliminarily, 23 people that came in, or potentially came in with him.
00:26:21.000 And that's not acceptable.
00:26:22.000 So we want to get rid of chain migration.
00:26:26.000 And we've wanted to do that for a long time.
00:26:29.000 And I've been wanting to do it for a long time.
00:26:31.000 Okay, and it is right to get rid of chain migration.
00:26:33.000 What he's saying here, as a general rule, the big problem with chain migration is not a bad guy enters the United States, brings in 23 bad relatives, right?
00:26:40.000 That's probably not the problem.
00:26:42.000 The real problem here is
00:26:45.000 That but not with terrorism, right?
00:26:46.000 People who come in, not necessarily bad people, but people who come in with different cultural mores and then they bring in their entire family, right?
00:26:53.000 People who are not educated.
00:26:54.000 You get one guy who comes in through the diversity visa lottery, has a high school degree and two years of work experience.
00:26:59.000 He comes in and he brings his entire extended family, none of whom have any high school degree or any work experience, none of whom have been
00:27:05.000 I don't think so.
00:27:22.000 Same thing here.
00:27:23.000 Here's Trump saying he's going to try and terminate the diversity lottery.
00:27:25.000 I talked about this yesterday.
00:27:26.000 The diversity lottery, the idea that we are going to give affirmative action to countries that don't have enough people coming in, is really stupid.
00:27:33.000 Originally, it was designed to get more Europeans in.
00:27:35.000 It's largely been used for countries that are majority Muslim now.
00:27:39.000 And it's bad policy.
00:27:41.000 Why should we give affirmative action to countries?
00:27:43.000 Why not just apply individual standards to the people coming in instead of trying to do it by ethnicity or country?
00:27:49.000 It's a problem.
00:27:49.000 That's the real reason we should terminate the diversity visa lottery.
00:27:52.000 Trump instead is trying to say that it's because of the terror attack.
00:27:55.000 I am today starting the process of terminating the diversity lottery program.
00:28:05.000 I'm going to ask Congress to immediately initiate work to get rid of this program.
00:28:12.000 Diversity and diversity lottery.
00:28:17.000 Diversity lottery.
00:28:19.000 Sounds nice.
00:28:20.000 It's not nice.
00:28:21.000 It's not good.
00:28:22.000 It's not good.
00:28:23.000 It hasn't been good.
00:28:24.000 We've been against it.
00:28:26.000 Okay, well, you know, he's right.
00:28:28.000 But again, doing this on the back of a terror attack is my problem here.
00:28:30.000 So he's doing the right thing for what I think is sort of the wrong reason here.
00:28:34.000 But
00:28:35.000 Because he's doing the right thing, and because he is saying things that I think most Americans think, this is why Trump is popular.
00:28:39.000 Let's be real about this.
00:28:40.000 You know, Trump last night tweeted out that he was very upset, obviously, over the attack, and he said, this terrorist should get the death penalty.
00:28:48.000 That's it.
00:28:49.000 The president should not say that.
00:28:50.000 OK, it poisons the jury pool.
00:28:52.000 It actually creates legal problems because now the defendant gets to claim that he can't get a fair trial.
00:28:58.000 So Trump shouldn't have said it.
00:28:59.000 But what Trump said is, of course, what most people believe.
00:29:01.000 Trump said yesterday, for example, that we should just send the terrorists to Gitmo.
00:29:04.000 Most people in the United States
00:29:06.000 We're good to go.
00:29:35.000 I would certainly consider that, yes.
00:29:38.000 I would certainly consider that.
00:29:39.000 Send him to Gitmo.
00:29:41.000 I would certainly consider that, yes.
00:29:42.000 Okay, so whenever, first of all, whenever he says I would certainly consider that, that's him buying time to a certain extent.
00:29:47.000 He doesn't know the answer so he always says I'll consider it.
00:29:50.000 But even if he says that, you know, the fact is that people resonate to the fact that Trump basically sees these terror attacks in the same way that they do.
00:29:57.000 Now, the media, of course, responds to all this, how dare Trump politicize?
00:30:01.000 How dare Trump politicize?
00:30:02.000 And we talked about this a little bit yesterday, but I just want to show you the level of hypocrisy
00:30:08.000 I don't think this is the time to get political.
00:30:25.000 We had a policy, an immigration policy in place in the 90s.
00:30:29.000 It was a bipartisan policy.
00:30:31.000 It was signed by a Republican president.
00:30:34.000 There's no doubt that we have to be smarter and have more intelligence.
00:30:41.000 But there's also no doubt that this is not the time to play politics.
00:30:45.000 This is not the time to foment hate.
00:30:49.000 This is not the time to divide because they all exacerbate the situation, right?
00:30:56.000 This is the time to forge alliances with our allies.
00:31:02.000 Okay, so it's not the time to divide.
00:31:03.000 Here's Andrew Cuomo on the radio a couple of years ago.
00:31:06.000 Their problem is not me and the Democrats.
00:31:10.000 Their problem is themselves.
00:31:12.000 Who are they?
00:31:14.000 Are they these extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, a pro-assault weapon, anti-gay?
00:31:24.000 Is that who they are?
00:31:26.000 Because if that's who they are, and if they are the extreme conservatives,
00:31:31.000 They have no place in the state of New York.
00:31:33.000 Yeah, but now we can't be divisive, right?
00:31:36.000 Let's definitely not be divisive, right?
00:31:38.000 Extreme conservatives have no place in his state.
00:31:40.000 Americans have no place in his state, but it's divisive for Trump to talk about how terrible the Democrats have been on immigration.
00:31:46.000 Really, really terrible and divisive.
00:31:47.000 Here's Nancy Pelosi doing the same thing.
00:31:49.000 It's inappropriate to get political.
00:31:50.000 President Trump accused Chuck Schumer and the Dems for the terrorist attack in New York.
00:31:58.000 Do you agree?
00:31:59.000 That one was so inappropriate in a time of tragedy for him to get political.
00:32:06.000 That's so inappropriate, says Nancy Pelosi.
00:32:08.000 Here's also what Nancy Pelosi said the very day of the Las Vegas shooting, quote,
00:32:22.000 To prevent unspeakable tragedies, such as the mass shooting in Las Vegas.
00:32:25.000 So she was willing to politicize the shooting in Vegas, like, a month ago, right?
00:32:29.000 But now, how dare Trump politicize?
00:32:31.000 How dare he politicize?
00:32:32.000 And when we talk about being divisive and politicizing things, you know, Trump, he's so divisive.
00:32:36.000 Chris Matthews, you don't have anything to say!
00:32:37.000 Because Trump's reigniting a civil war, it's crazy!
00:32:40.000 Look at, what's he talking about?
00:32:41.000 This crazy guy, get up in the morning, come to the show, come in, talk about this crazy man with his crazy hair, go!
00:32:48.000 The politics, the mannerisms of this president are always look for the partisan divide.
00:32:55.000 And if you can, if you're really lucky, look for an ethnic divide.
00:32:58.000 If you can break it along racial, ethnic background lines, it's a winner for Donald Trump.
00:33:04.000 It just seems like he always looks for the statues issue.
00:33:08.000 He's back in there again with his chief of staff looking for north-south blue-gray fighting again.
00:33:13.000 Sure.
00:33:14.000 Trying to reignite, reenact.
00:33:16.000 I don't mind reenactors, but he's trying to reignite the Civil War.
00:33:19.000 What do you make of your fellow Republican?
00:33:22.000 He's trying to reignite the Civil War?
00:33:24.000 Really?
00:33:25.000 Like he's bringing back slavery and then he's going to embolden the people from the South to fight the people from the North?
00:33:29.000 That's really his thing?
00:33:30.000 I do love when the Democrats talk about how divisive the Republicans are.
00:33:33.000 I'm playing a clip from Michelle Obama yesterday.
00:33:35.000 I want to talk about divisive rhetoric.
00:33:36.000 This is Michelle Obama, one of the great uniters of our time.
00:33:38.000 The unity figure.
00:33:40.000 I mean, yeah, I know, in 2008 she was saying that she didn't love her country until Obama was nominated, but she's now a unity figure, a unifying force in America.
00:33:48.000 Here she is ripping on men.
00:33:49.000 That's one of the questions.
00:33:51.000 It's like raising our men.
00:33:52.000 We got to rest talking to my mother about that the other day.
00:33:55.000 It's like the problem in the world today is we love our boys and we raise our girls, you know?
00:34:05.000 We raise them to be strong and sometimes we take care not to hurt men.
00:34:11.000 And I think we pay for that a little bit.
00:34:14.000 And that's a we thing, because we're raising them, you know?
00:34:17.000 And it's powerful to have strong men, but what does that strength mean?
00:34:22.000 You know, does it mean respect?
00:34:24.000 Does it mean responsibility?
00:34:25.000 Does it mean compassion?
00:34:28.000 Or are we protecting our men too much, so they feel a little entitled?
00:34:33.000 And a little, you know, a little self-righteous sometimes.
00:34:37.000 But that's kinda on us, too.
00:34:40.000 You know, we're raising our men to feel entitled and self-righteous because we've never seen an entitled or self-righteous woman anywhere in America.
00:34:46.000 Anywhere.
00:34:46.000 And we just can't find them.
00:34:48.000 Hillary Clinton.
00:34:49.000 We can't find an entitled, self-righteous girl anywhere.
00:34:51.000 Yeah, I just, I don't see any of them.
00:34:52.000 It's only men who are entitled and self-righteous.
00:34:55.000 And it's because we're raising men to be this way, right?
00:34:57.000 Men are the bad guys.
00:34:57.000 It's men who are the problem in American society, not women.
00:35:00.000 Yeah, that's not divisive at all.
00:35:02.000 Not divisive at all.
00:35:03.000 Okay.
00:35:03.000 So, another issue that, where I think there's bipartisan stupidity going on.
00:35:08.000 So, there's a big discussion now going on over internet censorship.
00:35:11.000 And it's all based on the 2016 election.
00:35:13.000 There's been a lot of talk in recent days about how
00:35:16.000 Hillary Clinton, she was jobbed, basically, by the Russians.
00:35:20.000 The Russians used Facebook and Twitter in order to push their own political agenda, in order to push political chaos in the United States.
00:35:26.000 There's a study that came out and said that the Russians had, I guess, 150 million engagements on Facebook, and this was supposedly shifting the election.
00:35:36.000 Okay, let me put that in perspective.
00:35:38.000 Okay, I know my own Facebook engagement numbers.
00:35:42.000 You know how many?
00:35:43.000 They said the entire election cycle, I guess.
00:35:44.000 They had 150 million engagements, something to that effect.
00:35:47.000 I want to look up the exact statistics so I make sure that I get this right.
00:35:50.000 Engagements, Russian bots.
00:35:53.000 Okay, so they say that 126 million people in the United States may have seen posts, may have seen posts.
00:35:59.000 Presented by the Russian government.
00:36:01.000 Maybe 126 million users may have seen those posts.
00:36:06.000 My weekly reach on Facebook, from my Facebook page alone, is almost 30 million.
00:36:11.000 So I do that every month.
00:36:12.000 Did I swing the 2016 election?
00:36:15.000 Do I have the numbers to swing the 2016 election?
00:36:18.000 Obviously not, because if I did, no one would have voted.
00:36:20.000 Right?
00:36:21.000 So that obviously is not the case.
00:36:23.000 But what's amazing is that the Democrats are so ensconced in this idea that Hillary must have won the election that they have to say that it was the Russian bots that really won her the election now.
00:36:32.000 Now, before I show you what these idiot senators are saying, and I think it's from both parties, the stupidity, I want to show you some of what the Russian bots were putting out that supposedly swung the election.
00:36:42.000 Okay, so here is a, we're going to show a couple of these graphics, Austin.
00:36:46.000 Can we get the Bernie Sanders graphic here?
00:36:49.000 Um, the Buff Bernie.
00:36:50.000 So this is one of the Russian fake pages.
00:36:52.000 Okay?
00:36:53.000 It is an animated picture of a very gay-looking Bernie Sanders, uh, doing a muscle man pose in multiple colors.
00:37:01.000 And it says, LGBT United.
00:37:03.000 You can color your own Bernie hero.
00:37:05.000 There's a new coloring book called Buff Bernie.
00:37:07.000 A coloring book for Berniacs.
00:37:08.000 It's full of very attractive doodles of Bernie Sanders in muscle poses.
00:37:11.000 The author of the book said she wanted people to stop taking this whole thing too serious.
00:37:15.000 The coloring is something that suits for all people.
00:37:17.000 So first of all, the English in it is just atrocious.
00:37:19.000 Second of all, did this shift the election?
00:37:22.000 This picture of Bernie Sanders in a thong?
00:37:24.000 An animated Bernie Sanders in a thong.
00:37:26.000 That's what shifted the election.
00:37:28.000 Oh, if only we'd been able to stop that sort of nefarious activity by the Russians.
00:37:31.000 That wasn't the only one.
00:37:33.000 Do we have any more of these?
00:37:34.000 Because they're really absurd.
00:37:36.000 This one is from some sort of
00:37:39.000 Group called American Made and then it's a picture of a father and a son both carrying guns and it says, this is the way our children have to be raised.
00:37:46.000 It's not the promotion of violence, it's the motion of confidence and the ability to defend yourself or whatever it is.
00:37:51.000 And this was, I think the number of times these were clicked on, the first one was clicked on like 100 times, this one was clicked on like 800 times.
00:37:58.000 Wow, just shocking material.
00:38:00.000 It was this sort of thing that shifted the election.
00:38:02.000 This was my personal favorite.
00:38:03.000 I loved this one so much.
00:38:05.000 Okay, this one was from a group called Army of Jesus.
00:38:08.000 If you can't see it, you should really check it out.
00:38:10.000 Again, this is what Democrats are saying won the election for Donald Trump.
00:38:14.000 OK, it is an animation of Jesus wrestling with the devil.
00:38:18.000 And then it says, Satan, if I win, Clinton wins.
00:38:21.000 Jesus, not if I can help it.
00:38:23.000 And then it says, press like to help Jesus win.
00:38:26.000 And then the caption says, Again, look at the grammar here, right?
00:38:28.000 The grammar isn't even English.
00:38:43.000 So, yes, to pro-Trump ad, look at the number of shares at the bottom of this.
00:38:48.000 29 shares.
00:38:50.000 29 shares, okay?
00:38:52.000 When I put up a video, we're talking thousands and thousands of shares.
00:38:55.000 This is the sort of stuff Democrats say shifted the election, and we have to punish Facebook and Twitter and Google, because if they had shut down the Russian bots, then Hillary certainly, certainly would have won.
00:39:03.000 Here is Dianne Feinstein openly threatening Facebook, Google, and Twitter, saying to them,
00:39:08.000 That if you don't find a way to crack down on material we don't like, we will find a way to do it.
00:39:11.000 This is a threat to the First Amendment, what she's talking about here.
00:39:14.000 You have a huge problem on your hands.
00:39:17.000 And the United States is going to be the first of the countries to bring it to your attention.
00:39:22.000 And others are going to follow, I'm sure.
00:39:25.000 Because you bear this responsibility.
00:39:28.000 You've created these platforms.
00:39:30.000 And now they are being misused.
00:39:33.000 And you have to be the ones to do something about it.
00:39:38.000 Um, or we will.
00:39:40.000 Okay, you do something about it or we will is the government-threatening regulation of an industry that's not violating the law.
00:39:45.000 Okay, it's not a violation of the law for Russia Today to put out propaganda, or for Russian bots to put out propaganda, or for Russian groups to put out propaganda.
00:39:53.000 It isn't.
00:39:54.000 The big problem here is not that the Russians were trying to exploit the system.
00:39:57.000 The big problem is that Americans are gullible and will click on anything that hits our buttons in the right way.
00:40:03.000 I would venture to say that if you're gonna talk about propaganda that benefited the Trump campaign, start with Infowars, don't start with Russia Today, right?
00:40:09.000 And if you're gonna talk about propaganda that benefited Hillary Clinton, don't talk about the Russians, okay?
00:40:15.000 Talk about the ACLU.
00:40:17.000 I mean, there are groups in American life, in the Huffington Post, there are groups in American life that put out material like this to try to censor Facebook, Twitter, and Google and suggest that it's their fault.
00:40:27.000 It's really absurd.
00:40:28.000 Tom Cotton did the same thing from the right.
00:40:29.000 Again, I like Senator Cotton, but I think he's dead wrong here.
00:40:31.000 Thank you, gentlemen, for your appearance this morning.
00:40:33.000 Mr. Edgett, I want to discuss Twitter's history of cooperation with our intelligence community.
00:40:40.000 Last year, in an open hearing before this committee, I asked then-CIA Director John Brennan about Twitter's decision to prohibit a subsidiary called DataMiner from working with our intelligence community.
00:40:49.000 Director Brennan stated that he was disappointed in Twitter's decision.
00:40:54.000 But at the same time, we learned that Twitter was refusing to work with the CIA and the rest of the intelligence community.
00:41:00.000 We also learned that Twitter was pitching Russia Today and Sputnik propaganda arms of the Kremlin to sell advertisements for profit.
00:41:09.000 So in essence, last year, Russia was beginning its covert influence campaign against the United States, and Twitter was on the side of Russia, as opposed to the national security interests of the United States.
00:41:18.000 Okay, so first of all, if Twitter, if there's, if there are Russians who want to put out political messages, you know, the only thing that's illegal here is if there's actually, like, a campaign contribution.
00:41:27.000 Like, if Russia's making active campaign contributions, so if they said, we want to back Trump and we want to put out ads, that's a violation of law by Russia.
00:41:33.000 Right, but the idea that Twitter has to, like, what if there's a Russian citizen living, an American citizen living in Russia who wants to put out these messages?
00:41:40.000 And if the messages are exactly the same as messages that would be put out by Team Trump or Team Clinton, I'm, let's put it this way, I am much more worried about the government cracking down on Facebook, Twitter, and Google than I am about Twitter, Facebook, and Google somehow falling into the pocket of the nefarious Russians to shift our election system.
00:41:56.000 And I think we better be careful with all of this.
00:41:57.000 Okay, time for some quick things I like, things I hate, and then I'll do a very quick big idea.
00:42:01.000 So, first, things I like.
00:42:03.000 So I've been doing books on children that are really good.
00:42:06.000 Not by Kevin Spacey.
00:42:07.000 Here's the book, Nurture Shock.
00:42:09.000 Okay, it's by Poe Bronson and Ashley Merriman.
00:42:11.000 It's all about ideas about what it is that makes children grow in certain ways.
00:42:16.000 And it's sort of a, it's one of these
00:42:18.000 Pop social psychology books all about how children grow and think.
00:42:24.000 It's really fascinating.
00:42:24.000 They talk about whether children are naturally racist.
00:42:26.000 The answer is kind of yes.
00:42:28.000 They talk about what makes children...
00:42:31.000 We're good to go.
00:43:00.000 So I'm going to start with people targeting my sister.
00:43:02.000 So my sister is not a public figure.
00:43:04.000 She's a public figure in the sense that she has her own career.
00:43:07.000 Over in New York, she's an opera singer.
00:43:09.000 She's a world-class opera singer.
00:43:10.000 She got into USC with a full scholarship after singing for like a year.
00:43:15.000 She just sang.
00:43:17.000 She starred in Aspen, the Aspen Music Festival.
00:43:21.000 She starred in Mozart's Clemenza di Tito over there.
00:43:24.000 This is a clip of my sister Abigail
00:43:26.000 Singing there.
00:43:27.000 Abigail is completely non-political as far as I'm aware.
00:43:30.000 She may disagree with me on certain political issues, but she certainly is not part of the political debate.
00:43:34.000 Here's Abby singing from Mozart, and then I'll explain to you exactly what happened here.
00:43:54.000 You will have the honor to go and drink the blood of your faithful sister.
00:44:11.000 Justo!
00:44:13.000 She loved you more than her life.
00:44:25.000 We're good.
00:44:45.000 So as you can see, I mean, she's super talented, right?
00:44:47.000 I mean, she's obviously great at what she does.
00:44:49.000 The alt-right got a hold of the fact she was my sister.
00:44:52.000 I'm not even friends with my family members on Facebook because of this, because I know that there are people out there targeting them.
00:44:57.000 People asked why my dad, who used to work at Breitbart, was writing under a pseudonym.
00:45:00.000 This is the reason, because I don't want people who I love targeted by people who are jackasses.
00:45:05.000 They found my sister, they targeted her, they spammed her entire YouTube, every YouTube video that she put up, they spammed with nasty, openly anti-Semitic stuff
00:45:14.000 about how she was a Jewish whore, essentially, and they targeted her this way.
00:45:19.000 They started emailing her through her website.
00:45:21.000 They targeted her on some of the neo-Nazi websites.
00:45:24.000 These people are scum, and anybody who has granted them an inch of space is similarly scum.
00:45:29.000 So I just want to call them out and note, you are scum, you are pathetic, and the fact that you sit in your basements masturbating to anime does not mean that you are of worth in any human level, you stupid...
00:45:43.000 Despicable human beings.
00:45:44.000 Okay, other things that I hate.
00:45:46.000 So, Stephen Colbert did an entire shtick yesterday, because Donald Trump Jr.
00:45:51.000 put out a tweet.
00:45:52.000 And the tweet that Donald Trump Jr.
00:45:54.000 put out was a tweet of his daughter, and he said that he was telling her that he was going to take half her candy on Halloween to teach her what socialism was.
00:46:02.000 Okay, you know, kind of funny.
00:46:03.000 And Stephen Colbert goes after Donald Trump Jr.
00:46:06.000 as Stephen Colbert is apt to do.
00:46:09.000 Last night, Don Jr tweeted a picture of his young daughter holding her candy bucket and said, I'm going to take half of her candy tonight and give it to some kid who sat at home.
00:46:20.000 It's never too early to teach her about socialism.
00:46:24.000 Yes, it's never too early to teach kids the danger of sharing.
00:46:28.000 On Halloween, kids literally go door-to-door to get free candy from the neighbors because the kids don't have it, and the neighbors do.
00:46:36.000 That's socialism.
00:46:38.000 Also, give it to some kid who sat at home.
00:46:41.000 You know Halloween is fun, right?
00:46:43.000 No child in the history of childing has ever voluntarily missed Halloween.
00:46:49.000 I'm worried that kid didn't go out.
00:46:51.000 Why?
00:46:52.000 Is he okay?
00:46:53.000 Is that child caring for a sick parent?
00:46:55.000 You know what would be a nice thing to do?
00:46:57.000 Give him half your Halloween candy.
00:47:00.000 Okay, so this is such a misread of socialism it's quite astonishing.
00:47:03.000 So first of all, Halloween is not socialism and sharing is not socialism.
00:47:07.000 Voluntary sharing is not socialism.
00:47:09.000 Okay, voluntary sharing is not socialism.
00:47:11.000 It's called charity.
00:47:12.000 We do it all the time.
00:47:14.000 Okay, when you give out candy on Halloween, you're not being a socialist.
00:47:17.000 You are sharing things.
00:47:18.000 Okay, socialism is when the government forces you to share things.
00:47:22.000 Socialism is when the government comes in and mandates that you share your candy, Stephen Colbert, you stupid idiot.
00:47:27.000 Okay, the idea
00:47:29.000 No, not quite the same thing.
00:47:31.000 As far as this idea that, you know, there's a poor child in need and so you should really give that child half your candy.
00:47:51.000 Again, that's up to me.
00:47:52.000 I may agree with you, Stephen Colbert, but the idea that Donald Trump Jr.'
00:47:56.000 's daughter should have to give half her candy, I think that the better plan there would probably be for Donald Trump Jr.'
00:48:01.000 's very wealthy man to get that kid some candy if that kid needs charity.
00:48:05.000 But I'm not going to enforce it with the power of government.
00:48:07.000 So again, the deliberate misread on socialism here is pretty astonishing, and it just shows how the left thinks about socialism.
00:48:12.000 They think about it as a benevolent, wonderful thing that really has no downside.
00:48:17.000 You know, except for the whole, we have to shoot people if they refuse to abide by my version of what charity ought to constitute.
00:48:22.000 Okay, quick big idea here on The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:48:25.000 So every Thursday, we go through a big idea.
00:48:27.000 One of the big ideas today that we're going to do is stare decisis.
00:48:29.000 So Clarence Thomas did an interview with Laura Ingram, which was quite good yesterday.
00:48:33.000 Laura clerked for Thomas on the Supreme Court, and Thomas was asked about his judicial philosophy, and I'm going to explain what differentiates Clarence Thomas from Justice Scalia, and why I actually prefer Clarence Thomas to Justice Scalia's jurisprudence, even though I love Justice Scalia's writing.
00:48:47.000 Your philosophy is described as alternatively formalistic, rigid, strictly conservative.
00:48:57.000 How do you describe your philosophy, Justice?
00:49:00.000 I think it's get it right.
00:49:03.000 I think we are required to reason to a conclusion.
00:49:09.000 And that's what we try to do and try to do it in a way that it is accessible to regular people.
00:49:17.000 And when you read Thomas's decisions, first of all, they are very clear and they're very easy to read.
00:49:20.000 But one of the things that differentiates Clarence Thomas from from Justice Scalia is Justice Scalia believed to a certain extent in stare decisis.
00:49:26.000 That literally means the case has been decided.
00:49:28.000 It's what we call precedent.
00:49:29.000 And the problem with Justice Scalia's take on this is that if you believe in precedent, you have to pick and choose which precedent you choose to uphold.
00:49:36.000 You either have a blanket rule that a case that has been decided on similar merits must stand, or you can choose a rule that says, I don't care what the case decided before.
00:49:44.000 If it's not right, then it's not right.
00:49:46.000 Cases in which this comes up, Roe v. Wade, right?
00:49:48.000 Do we abide by Roe v. Wade?
00:49:49.000 It's stare decisis, right?
00:49:51.000 It's a case that's been decided about abortion.
00:49:53.000 Do we just abide by it?
00:49:54.000 Or is the case wrong?
00:49:55.000 Thomas would say,
00:49:56.000 I don't care whether the case has already been decided.
00:49:58.000 They got it wrong.
00:49:58.000 I'm going to overrule it.
00:49:59.000 The same thing holds true for things like Dred Scott, or Plessy v. Ferguson, or Buck v. Bell.
00:50:03.000 There are a bunch of really bad cases in American history.
00:50:06.000 Korematsu.
00:50:07.000 A bunch of really bad cases in American history.
00:50:10.000 Do you just abide by them because stare decisis?
00:50:12.000 So Justice Scalia never really had a consistent rule as to which cases he would abide by, which precedent he would abide by.
00:50:18.000 Thomas does have a consistent rule.
00:50:19.000 That rule is, if the case is wrong, I overrule it.
00:50:22.000 And the case can be wrong based on them getting the case wrong at the time.
00:50:25.000 This is why I think that Justice Thomas is actually a more conservative justice, a more constitutional justice than Justice Scalia, even though they voted together most of the time.
00:50:33.000 Thomas's jurisprudence is, I think, more solid and a better basis for constitutionalism than Justice Scalia's, even though I'm a big Scalia admirer and Scalia was quite brilliant.
00:50:41.000 Okay, so we'll be back here tomorrow with the mailbag.
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