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How Prevalent Is Sexual Harassment? | Ep. 418


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From Congress to Huffington Post, sexual harassment is everywhere. The bottom falls out for Roy Moore, or does it? And Jeff Sessions heads to the Hill. Plus, I want to get to Jeff Sessions on the Hill, should there be a special counsel for Hillary Clinton? And I go after some right-wingers on the right for talking about Uranium One. All that and much more on this jam-packed episode of The Ben Shapiro Show with Ben Shapiro! Subscribe today using our podcast s promo code POWER10 for 10% off your first purchase of a new mattress from Helix Sleep! Want to sponsor the show? Subscribe to our new sponsor, HelixSleep, where you get 50% off of your entire purchase when you place your order through the website and receive $50 off your entire order when you enter the discount code: PODCAST10 when you sign up for our new VIP membership program! Get 10% OFF your first month with discount code PODCODE10 at checkout at checkout and get 20% off the entire year when you spend $99 or more than $99 on your first year of your membership! Also, you get an ad-free version of the show, plus a free copy of my new book, POWER10, Power10, which is available in Kindle, iBook, Paperback, and Audible, Kindle, and Paperback. All Audible. and iBook. Kindle, Kindle Fire, and iPod, and a few other Audible devices! You can get a copy of the book I amazon, too! I'mazon, and all other printable hardcover editions of my book I'm listening to the show I'm working on for $99.99, and I'll be shipping you $99 a month, plus shipping you'll get $10, plus I'll get an extra $5,99 and shipping you get $25,99 postage free, plus an additional $50, you can get $99, I'll have access to the book, and you get a limited edition of my paperback edition of The New York Times and other places I'm going to get $49,99 a year, and they'll get your choice of course, I'm also get a $99 and I'm watching all of these goodies, plus all of your shipping starts starts shipping starts starting next month, shipping starts start-up shipping starts will be shipping free, shipping will be $49 and shipping starts are $50 and shipping will get you a maximum of $50 at $99 plus shipping starts, plus they'll also get you an ad?


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00:00:00.000 From Congress to Huffington Post, sexual harassment is everywhere.
00:00:03.000 The bottom falls out for Roy Moore, or does it really?
00:00:07.000 And Jeff Sessions heads to the Hill.
00:00:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:09.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:14.000 This is a jam-packed show for you today.
00:00:16.000 We are going to give you the very latest on Roy Moore.
00:00:18.000 That is heating up because it now appears that a lot of his media supporters are moving away from him.
00:00:22.000 But Roy Moore isn't going anywhere, and he is not sinking in the polls.
00:00:25.000 The latest poll has Roy Moore up 49-43.
00:00:28.000 There's the real possibility the guy about
00:00:30.000 We'll end up being elected to the United States Senate, which, of course, puts the Republican Party in a very interesting position.
00:00:38.000 We'll discuss all of that.
00:00:40.000 Plus, I want to get to Jeff Sessions on the Hill, should there be a special counsel for Hillary.
00:00:43.000 Shep Smith went after some folks on the right for talking about Uranium One, so I want to let you know what's true and what's false about Uranium One.
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00:02:04.000 Okay, so.
00:02:06.000 We begin today with a general observation.
00:02:09.000 Sexual harassment is apparently everywhere.
00:02:11.000 This is sort of a shocking story that went completely under the radar yesterday.
00:02:15.000 But there is a Democratic woman named Jackie Speier.
00:02:19.000 She's a Congresswoman on the Hill.
00:02:20.000 And she, in an interview yesterday on MSNBC, she said there are two members of the House who have been hit with serious sexual harassment allegations.
00:02:27.000 She says the House, over the past several years, has paid out $15 million in sexual harassment claims.
00:02:33.000 That's your taxpayer dollars and mine paying off
00:02:36.000 Now, we do know that there's about $15 million that has been paid out by the House on behalf of harassers in the last 10 to 15 years.
00:02:54.000 $15 million has been paid out over sexual harassment claims, so obviously more than one member of Congress.
00:03:01.000 Do you know how many over time that is?
00:03:03.000 I know that some of them are former members now.
00:03:06.000 I don't really know.
00:03:08.000 Okay, that's a lot of money.
00:03:09.000 That's a serious amount of money.
00:03:10.000 And if we're all going to go nuts over Bill O'Reilly's alleged $32 million settlement on sexual harassment, $15 million is a lot of money.
00:03:17.000 This is why Paul Ryan, the Speaker of the House, has now come out and said that we need to have mandatory harassment training in Congress.
00:03:22.000 First of all, I'm shocked that they didn't have mandatory harassment training before.
00:03:26.000 Like, pretty much every major company that I've worked at
00:03:29.000 Has had to have some sort of form of HR training, including you watch a sexual harassment tape, one of these dumb tapes from the 80s where they show you that you're not allowed to grab a woman's butt, which you should have known since you're not a jerk.
00:03:40.000 But in any case, Paul Ryan comes out, he says, we need mandatory harassment training.
00:03:44.000 It is, today's hearing was another important step in our efforts to combat sexual harassment and ensure a safe workplace.
00:03:49.000 I want to especially thank my colleagues who shared their stories.
00:03:51.000 Going forward, the House will adopt a policy of mandatory anti-harassment and anti-discrimination training for all members and staff.
00:03:56.000 Our goal is not only to raise awareness, but also make abundantly clear that harassment in any form has no place in this institution.
00:04:02.000 So, I'm not a general fan of anti-harassment training.
00:04:05.000 I don't think that harassers stop harassing because of this.
00:04:09.000 Harassers stop harassing when they feel there are consequences.
00:04:11.000 Mark Levin has suggested that Speaker Ryan and Senator Mitch McConnell should step down from their positions if they've been covering up sexual harassment.
00:04:19.000 I think that's a little bit much.
00:04:22.000 But I do think that they should be coming forward with names.
00:04:26.000 And naming and shaming sexual harassers, if the allegations are credible, seems to me the best way of going about alleviating this particular problem rather than paying out my money and yours from our wallets so that some sexually predatorial
00:04:39.000 Congressperson can get his rocks off.
00:04:41.000 It's not just in Congress.
00:04:42.000 This is one of the worst-kept secrets in Congress, by the way, is the amount of drunken lechery that happens in Congress.
00:04:46.000 It's really quite astonishing.
00:04:48.000 It's been true for pretty much centuries at this point.
00:04:50.000 Also, the fallout in Hollywood continues.
00:04:53.000 More sexual harassment in Hollywood.
00:04:55.000 So, Jon Stewart comes out and he says, Here's the estimable John Leibovitz.
00:05:04.000 Stunned, I think.
00:05:06.000 You know, you give your friends a benefit of the doubt.
00:05:10.000 I tried to think of it in terms of, you know, I've had friends who have compulsions and who have done things, gambling or drinking or drugs, and we've lost some of them.
00:05:18.000 Some of them have died.
00:05:19.000 And you always find yourself back to a moment of, did I miss something?
00:05:24.000 Could I have done more or the thing?
00:05:27.000 And in this situation, I think we all could have.
00:05:32.000 We all could have is a way of saying, I couldn't have, you could have.
00:05:34.000 The answer is yes, Jon Stewart, you probably could have, considering that you were asked this specific question in 2016 and shied away from answering it.
00:05:41.000 Meanwhile, there are certain harassers in Hollywood who are continuing to get away with it.
00:05:44.000 George Takei, as you recall, he made a statement on Howard Stern's show in which he openly admitted to grabbing men by their penises, men who were skittish.
00:05:53.000 to encourage them in their proclivities.
00:05:56.000 And here was his original audio.
00:05:59.000 I want to play that, and then I want to show you what he said in his statement, and people are letting him off the hook for this.
00:06:03.000 Did you ever grab anyone by the c*** against their will?
00:06:07.000 Uh-oh.
00:06:08.000 Oh, no.
00:06:09.000 Well, they were different times.
00:06:11.000 You never sexually harassed anyone.
00:06:13.000 Bay boner.
00:06:16.000 Have you?
00:06:16.000 Oh my goodness!
00:06:20.000 You've got such a beautiful hair!
00:06:23.000 It's some people that are kind of, um, um, skittish.
00:06:29.000 Right.
00:06:30.000 Or maybe, um, uh, afraid.
00:06:33.000 And you're trying to persuade.
00:06:36.000 But, you know... Do we need to call the police?
00:06:40.000 The answer is yes, you need to call the police.
00:06:41.000 Here was George Takei's statement that came out on Monday.
00:06:51.000 Well, first of all, it didn't sound like that was your Star Trek days.
00:06:54.000 It sounds like it's a pretty consistent question.
00:06:56.000 Out of context, I agree that the joke was distasteful, and I'm very sorry he and I made fun out of a serious matter.
00:07:01.000 For decades I have played the part of a naughty gay grandpa when I visit Howard's show, a caricature I now regret.
00:07:05.000 But I want to be clear, I have never forced myself upon someone during a date.
00:07:08.000 Sometimes my dates were the initiator, sometimes I was.
00:07:10.000 It was always by mutual consent.
00:07:12.000 I see now that it has come across poorly in the awkward sketch.
00:07:15.000 That is not a sketch.
00:07:16.000 You heard the audio yourself, but George Takei will get away with it.
00:07:19.000 He, like Kevin Spacey, is choosing to live as a gay man, I guess, and so he'll get away with it.
00:07:23.000 Meanwhile, there's a story from the Huffington Post that sexual harassment was tolerated on a routine basis over at Huffington Post.
00:07:30.000 This is from Gizmodo.
00:07:32.000 What they say is, Arianna Huffington's history with a former managing editor whose transfer to launch HuffPost India was later revealed to be the result of an HR investigation into whether he had sexually harassed multiple young women in the New York office shows that Huffington wasn't overly concerned with sexual harassment in the office.
00:07:48.000 Ismodo recently revisited those allegations.
00:07:51.000 They not only independently confirmed that the investigation was indeed the reason for that managing editor's transfer, but that Huffington knew about his actions before they were reported to HR, according to a former employee.
00:08:02.000 Erin Kranz, the woman who wrote this piece called Melanie, Erin Kranz, she says,
00:08:10.000 According to the report, Huffington cheered the elevation of a guy named Jimmy Soni, who was then managing editor of the website.
00:08:15.000 And it was common knowledge around the newsroom, and Huffington knew about it, that he was sexually harassing the help.
00:08:21.000 Vice, there's a story about Vice today being hit with serious allegations of sexual harassment.
00:08:25.000 So this is to say, sexual harassment apparently is out of control.
00:08:29.000 And the question is, why are we just noticing this now?
00:08:31.000 So there are two theories as to why we are just noticing this now.
00:08:34.000 Theory number one is the David Frum theory.
00:08:37.000 This is the optimistic theory of human nature, which is,
00:08:40.000 Everyone's been sexually harassing for decades, and only now do we care because we're better than they were a decade ago.
00:08:45.000 Right?
00:08:45.000 We didn't care about Bill Clinton a decade ago.
00:08:47.000 We care about Bill Clinton now.
00:08:48.000 That's because we're better now.
00:08:50.000 And then there's theory number two.
00:08:52.000 Theory number two is that bad men have always sexually harassed women, but that people only care about it now, particularly on the left, because they're trying to get Donald Trump and Roy Moore.
00:09:02.000 I think that this is the correct theory.
00:09:03.000 I don't think that the left really cares very much about sexual harassment.
00:09:06.000 I think the left has been covering up their lack of care about sexual harassment for years.
00:09:12.000 They use a changing sexual standard to basically allow them to let people off the hook they want to let off the hook, and to put on the hook people they want to put on the hook.
00:09:21.000 So right now they want to put Roy Moore and Donald Trump on the hook, and therefore they're going to pretend to take sexual harassment super seriously.
00:09:27.000 When it's Anthony Weiner or Bill Clinton, then it's a completely different story.
00:09:33.000 is because there's a piece in Vox.com from an ex-Gribble columnist named Matt Iglesias.
00:09:39.000 He wrote about a 2,000-word essay about why Bill Clinton should have resigned from office in 1998.
00:09:43.000 Now, I checked my calendar this morning.
00:09:45.000 It turns out it's not 1998.
00:09:46.000 It's 2017, so he's 19 years late to the party.
00:09:49.000 Iglesias admits that at the time he wanted Clinton to stay, he said he was glad to see Clinton prevail and regarded the whole sordid matter as primarily the fault of congressional Republicans' excessive scandal-mongering.
00:10:00.000 But he admits, I think we got it wrong.
00:10:02.000 What we should have talked about was men abusing their social and economic power over younger and less powerful women.
00:10:06.000 So he doesn't talk about Wanya Broderick.
00:10:07.000 He doesn't talk about Kathleen Willey.
00:10:09.000 He talks specifically about Monica Lewinsky.
00:10:11.000 And here's what he says, quote.
00:10:14.000 Excuse me.
00:10:16.000 It was far from the most egregious case of workplace sexual misconduct in American history.
00:10:20.000 But it was unusually high profile, the facts were not in dispute, the perpetrator had a lot of nominal feminist ideological commitments, and political leaders who shared those commitments had the power to force him from office.
00:10:30.000 Had he resigned in shame, we all might have made a collective cultural and political decision that a person caught leveraging power over women in inappropriate ways ought to be fired.
00:10:37.000 Instead, we lost nearly two decades.
00:10:39.000 Yes.
00:10:40.000 Yes, we did.
00:10:41.000 So where are you on Bob Menendez, Matt?
00:10:44.000 Well, it turns out that he doesn't want Bob Menendez to step down.
00:10:47.000 And if he had this choice now, he really wouldn't want Clinton to step down anyway.
00:10:50.000 He says the reason that Clinton should have stepped down
00:10:53.000 Is because he abused power relationships.
00:10:56.000 This is my favorite part of his little article.
00:10:58.000 He says,
00:11:14.000 That wouldn't have worked, of course.
00:11:15.000 I was there in 1998, and I recall that at the time, the left was suggesting that Monica Lewinsky was a slut who was propositioning Bill, not a victimized innocent pressured by the most powerful man on Earth.
00:11:25.000 If the right had suggested that she was an innocent proposition by the most powerful man on Earth and this was sexual harassment, the left would then accuse the right of depriving Monica Lewinsky of her agency and being sexist.
00:11:34.000 This is the beautiful thing about being part of the left.
00:11:36.000 You can always find an excuse to attack the people you want to attack.
00:11:40.000 And the proof is in the pudding, because Iglesias says the real reason that Clinton should have been dumped in 1998 is because Al Gore was vice president and nothing would have changed.
00:11:49.000 And he says now it's worthwhile dumping Bill over, but it wouldn't have been worthwhile last year.
00:11:53.000 He says now that Hillary is out of electoral politics and has emerged as a bigger, drawing, more important political force than her husband, there's no excuse for Democrats not to look back on these events with more objectivity.
00:12:04.000 You wonder why so many Republicans are backing Roy Moore?
00:12:06.000 It's because they're using precisely the mirror negative of this, the Polaroid negative of this particular argument.
00:12:13.000 Matt Iglesias is basically saying that Bob Menendez shouldn't step down because the current governor is Chris Christie.
00:12:18.000 If he waits a few months and he steps down, then the governor will be a Democrat and then everything will be great.
00:12:23.000 He says that Bill Clinton should have stepped down because Al Gore was the vice president.
00:12:26.000 So, in other words, he doesn't really care about sexual harassment.
00:12:29.000 Or at least, he cares about sexual harassment up to the point it means political sacrifice.
00:12:33.000 Then, he shies away.
00:12:35.000 And then he wonders why people in Alabama are backing Roy Moore, why there are so many Republicans who are willing to back Roy Moore, even thinking that these allegations are correct, or at least credible.
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00:13:56.000 Okay, so, with this as background, the fact that sexual harassment is now obviously commonplace all over the place, and the fact the media are paying attention for political motivations, we have to ask ourselves a question.
00:14:06.000 Okay, we as conservatives have to ask ourselves a question.
00:14:10.000 Should it matter?
00:14:11.000 Should it matter?
00:14:12.000 Now, we've been asking this question for the last several days.
00:14:14.000 I've suggested that it absolutely should matter whether Roy Moore was molesting 14 or 16-year-olds or whether there are credible allegations that he is doing so.
00:14:22.000 But there are a lot of people who are saying, listen, the left is politically motivated.
00:14:25.000 If this were a leftist, they wouldn't be doing the same thing.
00:14:27.000 The Washington Post might not have even reported this story if it were about Doug Jones as opposed to Roy Moore.
00:14:33.000 So why should we deprive ourselves of a Senate seat in order to show the world what gentlemen we are?
00:14:40.000 Which is a fine and solid question.
00:14:42.000 There are basically three ways that this can go from here, okay?
00:14:46.000 And two of those ways don't involve depriving yourself of the Senate seat.
00:14:50.000 Way number one is the worst.
00:14:51.000 That is, Moore stays on the ballot and splits votes, and Doug Jones ends up in the Senate.
00:14:58.000 That is, politically speaking, for the Republicans, the worst, because when they have 51 votes in the Senate, it's very difficult for them to pass legislation with 52, let alone 51.
00:15:05.000 It means that Lisa Murkowski and John McCain, or Susan Collins and John McCain, two senators, can basically stymie the rest of the Republican agenda for the next couple of years, at the very least.
00:15:15.000 That's a possibility.
00:15:17.000 And so people are shying away from that possibility.
00:15:18.000 So that leaves two other possibilities.
00:15:19.000 One is a write-in campaign.
00:15:21.000 The problem with a write-in campaign is that Moore says he's not going.
00:15:24.000 He's now Jennifer Holliday in Dreamgirls.
00:15:29.000 He's telling you he's not going.
00:15:31.000 He's just not going to.
00:15:32.000 He's going to cling on there with his fingernails.
00:15:33.000 He will not leave.
00:15:34.000 He's repeating this.
00:15:35.000 And he's looking at the polls and saying, why should I leave?
00:15:37.000 I'm raising more money than I ever had.
00:15:38.000 He raised like $250,000 yesterday, which is sort of a sad commentary on the nature of our reactionary politics that Roy Moore is raising way more money in the aftermath of child sex allegations than he was before that.
00:15:50.000 But people hate the media just that much, and they think it's a political hit just that much.
00:15:55.000 So, he stays in.
00:15:57.000 They split the vote.
00:15:57.000 Doug Jones wins.
00:16:00.000 Possibility number two is that there is a write-in candidacy for Jeff Sessions.
00:16:04.000 Jeff Sessions would be the best pick.
00:16:05.000 He won 96% of the vote in the last Alabama Senate race.
00:16:07.000 You put Luther Strange in the write-in, it's not gonna help.
00:16:10.000 Put Luther Strange in the write-in, and that's going to be a serious problem, because Luther Strange couldn't even win a primary against Roy Moore.
00:16:17.000 There have been people suggesting that Richard Burr, who is the current senator of Alabama, should step down and then run for the open seat as a write-in candidate, and then his seat will come up for the first special election.
00:16:28.000 That's a possibility, too.
00:16:30.000 In other words, using some sort of machination to prevent Moore from being elected.
00:16:32.000 That would be the best, but the most plausible solution, the most plausible outcome here is that Moore actually gets elected, that Moore stays in, Moore wins the election,
00:16:40.000 And then Republicans in Congress have to decide, they have to make a decision.
00:16:45.000 Are they going to seat him or are they not?
00:16:47.000 The case for seating him is the people of Alabama have spoken, they heard the allegations, they didn't trust them, not our problem.
00:16:53.000 The case for not seating him is credible allegations of child molestation.
00:16:56.000 I am in the camp that says that if he is elected, you should not seat him.
00:16:59.000 The reason I say this is because like the founders, I am not a Democrat, I am a Republican.
00:17:03.000 That means with small d and small r. I'm not somebody who believes that the will of the people in its purest form must always be done.
00:17:10.000 I think that the exercise of independent judgment by legislators is important, which is why I think character is important in legislators.
00:17:16.000 I'm a believer that the Electoral College was created specifically to prevent dictatorship.
00:17:21.000 I'm a believer that the institutions of our government were created with the knowledge that there should be people who, every once in a while, have to do the right thing, even in spite of their constituents.
00:17:33.000 This to me seems like a pretty clear-cut case of that, especially because in the Matt Iglesias math, the governor of Alabama is a Republican who will then appoint a Republican to fill the seat, at least until the next special election.
00:17:43.000 So, it's interesting to see where everybody is coming down on all of this, and it's also interesting to see just how much dirty tricks are being used in Alabama.
00:17:52.000 I'm not just talking about
00:17:53.000 You know, quote-unquote, dirty tricks against Roy Moore.
00:17:55.000 You know, a credible allegation is a credible allegation.
00:17:58.000 But by people who are associated, presumably, with Moore.
00:18:00.000 So, we don't know who sent this fake robocall.
00:18:03.000 But there was a fake robocall that was going around Alabama.
00:18:07.000 And this fake robocall was from a guy who characterizes himself as Lenny Bernstein.
00:18:13.000 From the Washington Post, offering money to people to make false allegations against Roy Moore.
00:18:18.000 The suspicion is, of course, that this is someone who's associated with the Roy Moore campaign, and that this is somebody who's attempting to convince people that all of the allegations are false and that the Washington Post paid people off.
00:18:27.000 Here's what it sounded like.
00:18:28.000 I love they used a Jewish name for it.
00:18:29.000 Really, a nice dog whistle there.
00:18:31.000 Here is the audio.
00:18:33.000 I'm Bernie Bernstein.
00:18:34.000 I'm a reporter for the Washington Post.
00:18:35.000 I'm calling to find out if anyone at this address is a female between the ages of 54 to 57 years old willing to make damaging remarks about Candidate Roy Moore for a reward of between $5,000 and $7,000.
00:18:47.000 We will not be fully investigating these claims.
00:18:52.000 However, we will make a written report.
00:18:53.000 I can be reached by email lbernstein at washingtonpost.com.
00:18:57.000 Thank you.
00:18:59.000 LBernstein and WashingtonPost.com.
00:19:01.000 The purpose of this, of course, is not to actually gather information.
00:19:03.000 LBernstein and WashingtonPost.com apparently doesn't exist.
00:19:06.000 The purpose is to issue robot calls to make people think that this is what the Washington Post was doing.
00:19:10.000 Really, really gross stuff.
00:19:12.000 Very, very unpleasant stuff.
00:19:13.000 So, that's happening.
00:19:15.000 So, as all of this happens, even the conservatives and media have broken down into two groups.
00:19:20.000 Sean Hannity, who's obviously signaling from the White House, last night on his program, you know, Sean talks regularly with President Trump.
00:19:25.000 They are very close.
00:19:26.000 Apparently, they speak nearly every night.
00:19:28.000 And Sean basically laid the wood to Moore.
00:19:30.000 He said, listen, you have 24 hours to figure out a good way to rebut these allegations, or you should get out of the race.
00:19:36.000 Between this interview that I did and the inconsistent answers, between him saying, I never knew this girl, and then that yearbook comes out,
00:19:46.000 For me, the judge has 24 hours.
00:19:48.000 You must immediately and fully come up with a satisfactory explanation for your inconsistencies that I just showed.
00:19:57.000 You must remove any doubt.
00:19:59.000 If you can't do this, then Judge Moore needs to get out of this race.
00:20:03.000 Okay, so that was seen as an ultimatum from the White House.
00:20:05.000 Trump, of course, has remained utterly immovable and silent on this issue, which is amazing.
00:20:09.000 It's amazing, because Trump is the person who could help solve all of this.
00:20:12.000 If Trump jumped in with both feet and said, more needs to get out, and then all of a sudden the polls showed that Moore's base was completely eroding, then you might actually get a write-in candidacy that would be worthwhile, because write-in candidacies are tough.
00:20:22.000 But Trump staying out of this race is a real problem.
00:20:25.000 Trump has continued to maintain silence.
00:20:26.000 I hope he doesn't.
00:20:27.000 I think Trump should know better than that.
00:20:30.000 It's not just Hannity.
00:20:31.000 Tucker Carlson, who... I didn't watch his show earlier this week, so I don't know if he was inclined to doubt the allegations, but whatever he was doing earlier this week, now Tucker says that Moore, who's been hiding behind Christianity, he's been hiding behind his faith, saying, you know, they're out to get me, just like Jesus, kind of thing.
00:20:48.000 Carlson says that's nonsense.
00:20:50.000 Roy Moore has every right to protest his innocence, and maybe he is innocent.
00:20:54.000 What he's not allowed to do is drag God into all of this.
00:20:58.000 God is not accused of trolling for teenagers in shopping malls.
00:21:01.000 This is not about Christianity, it's about Roy Moore, and it discredits Christianity when Christians allow Moore to use his faith as a shield.
00:21:10.000 It's offensive to real believers.
00:21:13.000 And this, of course, is exactly correct.
00:21:15.000 Good for Tucker Carlson.
00:21:16.000 So it looks like the bottom is falling out a little bit for Roy Moore, except in his home state.
00:21:21.000 So he does have some media defenders.
00:21:23.000 You know, Rush Limbaugh was suggesting on his show that a search and destroy mission against Roy Moore is really Mitch McConnell's doing.
00:21:31.000 It's really about Mitch McConnell, that all these people are jumping on board because they hate Roy Moore.
00:21:35.000 Listen.
00:21:35.000 I had not said that you should not vote for Roy Moore.
00:21:37.000 I was very uncomfortable with Roy Moore.
00:21:40.000 I had criticized Roy Moore, but I had not openly stated—I think I said that if I were in Alabama, I wouldn't vote for him, but I also said very similar to what—before any of these allegations came out—very similar to what I had said about Donald Trump, which is, you know, I certainly understand voting for Roy Moore to prevent a Democrat from taking the seat.
00:21:55.000 But after these allegations, the idea that this is really about McConnell anymore, that it's all people of bad faith who are seeking to take down Roy Moore, it doesn't really hold.
00:22:03.000 But Russia's trying to—Russia was trying to push that yesterday.
00:22:06.000 Annan has been very upfront about the objective he has, and that's to get Mitch McConnell out of the Senate.
00:22:12.000 And so I don't think—even if all we had was one allegation against Judge Moore, this was going to be it for Judge Moore.
00:22:23.000 Didn't matter because this is now being used to send a message to Bannon and his group that you think you're going to get rid of me.
00:22:36.000 Well, take a look at what's going to happen every time you try.
00:22:39.000 Okay, that's not really true.
00:22:40.000 So, Bannon wants to make it about that.
00:22:42.000 Bannon wants to make it about it's me versus McConnell.
00:22:45.000 But it really is not about him versus McConnell at all.
00:22:46.000 At this point, it's just about the truth or falsity of the allegations.
00:22:49.000 Bannon, by the way, continues to stick by Moore.
00:22:52.000 The reason he continues to stick by Moore is because he stapled himself to Moore's leg as Moore won the primaries and then tried to claim credit.
00:22:58.000 He was the dog that had stapled himself to the chicken's leg to cross the road and then claimed credit for giving the chicken a ride.
00:23:06.000 That's not actually what happened in this particular case, but it's a seductive way of moving attention off of the actual allegations and toward the politics of the situation.
00:23:16.000 Okay, so before I go any further and talk about people in Alabama who are continuing to support Roy Moore, including Mo Brooks, the representative from Alabama,
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00:24:21.000 Okay, so it's not just Rush who's basically trying to cast this in political terms.
00:24:27.000 Mo Brooks made what I thought was maybe the most intellectually honest argument here.
00:24:31.000 He basically said, listen, it doesn't really matter what Roy Moore has done or not done.
00:24:34.000 At least he's not Doug Jones and he's not gonna vote for abortion.
00:24:38.000 You believe Lenny Huffman is the winner?
00:24:45.000 He says, I believe the Democrats will do great damage to our country.
00:24:47.000 He says, I believe the Democrats will do damage to our country on a myriad of issues.
00:24:52.000 And he's sprinting away from the reporter.
00:24:54.000 So obviously, not questions that Mo Brooks would like to answer.
00:24:59.000 Bad candidates who refuse to get out.
00:25:02.000 Roy Moore is refusing to get out because he believes he can win.
00:25:04.000 And the polls show that he can win.
00:25:06.000 And this demonstrates why the voters need to stop thinking in binary terms in terms of personalities.
00:25:12.000 Binary terms in moral terms are good.
00:25:14.000 Binary terms in terms of personality are not good.
00:25:16.000 So, it's not a binary choice between Steve Bannon and Mitch McConnell.
00:25:20.000 It's not a binary choice between Roy Moore and Doug Jones, especially not now.
00:25:24.000 If you went through support from Roy Moore, you could easily get a writing candidate and you could fix this problem in a much more smooth way.
00:25:35.000 But people don't want to make the binary moral choice, so instead they've swiveled to binary personality choices.
00:25:40.000 You know, do I like Doug Jones or do I like Roy Moore?
00:25:42.000 Do I like Steve Bannon or do I like Mitch McConnell?
00:25:44.000 There's only one binary choice here.
00:25:46.000 Do you think it is important enough not to have an alleged child molester sitting in the Senate to not vote for him and vote for someone else?
00:25:52.000 And I'm not talking about voting for Doug Jones.
00:25:53.000 I'm talking about voting for a write-in candidate.
00:25:55.000 Or do you hate the media so much, and you suspect the media so much, and you think the whole thing's rigged, that you're willing to take the risk that you're putting somebody in the Senate who is an utter piece of human debris?
00:26:05.000 So, you know, these are questions that I think we all ought to ask ourselves in all honesty.
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00:27:10.000 So, meanwhile, Jeff Sessions was on the Hill.
00:27:11.000 The Attorney General was on the Hill yesterday to answer questions about a variety of issues ranging from leaks inside the Trump administration to the possibility of setting up a special counsel for Hillary Clinton.
00:27:21.000 Now, I want to start this discussion about the special counsel for Hillary Clinton by discussing what exactly the special counsel will be for.
00:27:28.000 So there are two separate questions that have really come up in the context of why we might need a special counsel.
00:27:33.000 And it really is more why we need an investigation, not necessarily a special counsel.
00:27:36.000 So those are two separate questions, too.
00:27:39.000 So number one question.
00:27:41.000 Do we need a special counsel?
00:27:43.000 Number two question, for what?
00:27:44.000 So we'll answer the second question first.
00:27:46.000 What is the for what?
00:27:47.000 Why would you need a special counsel?
00:27:48.000 So, why would you need an investigation?
00:27:50.000 So the reason that you would need an investigation into Hillary Clinton is because Hillary Clinton hired Fusion GPS, a Russian connected firm, in order to dig up dirt on Donald Trump.
00:27:58.000 And then it appears that that material was used as the basis for a FISA request from the FBI.
00:28:06.000 There are questions as to whether the FBI actually continued to pay for this dossier, some of which has been discredited.
00:28:11.000 And so the question is really whether Hillary Clinton did anything illegal in using a Russian-connected source in order to promote a hit on Donald Trump.
00:28:22.000 We don't know the answers to that.
00:28:23.000 I think there's some unfilled gaps in that suspicion.
00:28:26.000 I think that we'd have to figure out that Hillary, number one, knew that she was getting information directly from the Russian government, or that she paid the Russian government for that information.
00:28:34.000 There was some exchange that actually took place, or didn't take place, some sort of favor that was being done.
00:28:38.000 We'd have to find out what the story is there.
00:28:40.000 That is story number one.
00:28:42.000 Story number two is the Uranium One scandal.
00:28:44.000 So, the left has been going crazy.
00:28:45.000 Why are we even talking about Uranium One?
00:28:47.000 So, one of the people who spent some time, quote-unquote, debunking the Uranium One scandal yesterday was Shep Smith.
00:28:52.000 Shep Smith, of course, is a left-leaning host on Fox News, and he spent a significant amount of time on his show yesterday debunking what he thought was the foolishness of looking at the Uranium One scandal to begin with.
00:29:02.000 Here was his description.
00:29:04.000 Uranium One is the name of a South Africa-based mining company.
00:29:08.000 Back in 2007, it merged with Eurasia Energy, based in Canada.
00:29:13.000 And in 2010, the mining arm of the Russian nuclear agency Rosatom bought controlling interest in the company.
00:29:20.000 Among other places, that mining company had operations in Wyoming that amounted to what the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's, or the NRC, said was at the time about 20% of uranium production capacity in the U.S.
00:29:34.000 Today, the NRC says it's about 10%.
00:29:36.000 Now, here's the accusation.
00:29:40.000 Nine people involved in the deal made donations to the Clinton Foundation totaling more than $140 million.
00:29:46.000 In exchange, Secretary of State Clinton approved the sale to the Russians.
00:29:51.000 A quid pro quo.
00:29:54.000 Okay, and then Shepard Smith would go on to debunk this, right?
00:29:57.000 Shepard Smith would say, well, she didn't approve the sale to the Russians, it was approved by a bunch of agencies, and it wasn't $140 million, and one of the people who was accused of giving all this money to Hillary Clinton had left Rosatom by the time this happened.
00:30:09.000 All of this is true.
00:30:11.000 But it's not the whole story.
00:30:12.000 So I'm going to tell you the whole story of what exactly happened with Uranium One.
00:30:16.000 This is not according to me.
00:30:17.000 This is according to leftist sources like PolitiFact and the New York Times.
00:30:19.000 So here is what we know.
00:30:20.000 There's a guy named Frank Giustra.
00:30:22.000 Okay, Frank Giustra was a close confidant of the Clintons.
00:30:25.000 He owned that company that you heard Shep Smith mention there called Eurasia.
00:30:27.000 It was sold to Uranium One in 2007.
00:30:30.000 Giustra says he divested his personal stake in the company at that time, but his shareholders owned 60% of the company, and there's no way to confirm the truth of his claim.
00:30:37.000 In 2010, Rosatom tried to buy 51% of the company.
00:30:40.000 This rose to the level of the government because this looked like a security problem, not because they were going to ship all of the uranium from the United States to Russia and make nukes, but because it actually deprived the United States of a strategic nuclear asset that was required for our military because we had a uranium shortage.
00:30:56.000 In 2013, Russia bought the entirety of Uranium One with the approval of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, CFIUS, as well as the U.S.
00:31:03.000 Nuclear Regulatory Commissions and Utah agencies.
00:31:06.000 The State Department had to sign off because the State Department was part of the CFIUS.
00:31:09.000 Hillary claims she had nothing to do with green-lighting this.
00:31:12.000 She didn't stop it from going through.
00:31:14.000 So, again, the accusation that Justra had divested himself at this point, so all of his donations to the Clinton Foundation had nothing to do with Uranium One, and in reality, it was just about $4 million that was donated to the Clinton Foundation from people associated with Uranium One.
00:31:28.000 This is a little simplistic.
00:31:29.000 So, here's the full story.
00:31:31.000 This is courtesy of the New York Times in a 2015 piece.
00:31:34.000 They report that Uranium One, its acquisition actually sort of began in 2005 when Justra still owned the company, quote, with Mr. Clinton at his side.
00:31:43.000 According to the Times, the two men had flown aboard Mr. Justra's private jet to Almaty, Kazakhstan, where they dined with the authoritarian president Nursultan Nazarbayev.
00:31:52.000 Mr. Clinton handed the Kazakh president a propaganda coup when he expressed support for Nazarbayev's bid to head an international elections monitoring group undercutting American foreign policy and criticism of Kazakhstan's poor human rights record by, among others, his wife, who was then a senator.
00:32:05.000 Within days of the visit, Justra's fledgling company, Eurasia Energy, signed a preliminary deal giving it stakes in three uranium mines controlled by the state-run uranium agency Kazatomprom.
00:32:14.000 Okay, so now Eurasia, which is Justra's company, owns a bunch of assets in Kazakhstan.
00:32:19.000 This, by the way, is one of the reasons the Russians wanted to buy the company, this U.S.-based company.
00:32:23.000 They wanted to buy the company because they didn't just want the holdings in the United States, they really more wanted the holdings in Kazakhstan.
00:32:30.000 Eurasia, this company in 2007, merged with Uranium One.
00:32:34.000 At that point, that was when Justra says that he divested himself, but the new company was controlled by Eurasia investors, including a guy named Ian Telfer, a Canadian who became chairman.
00:32:44.000 Juster made about 45 million bucks off the deal, and he sold his stake, but he had given a bunch of money to the Clintons.
00:32:50.000 So that in itself is an element of corruption, although Hillary's not yet Secretary of State.
00:32:55.000 Uranium One, this is all according to the New York Times, right?
00:32:57.000 Not according to me.
00:32:58.000 Uranium One began to snap up companies with the assets in the United States.
00:33:01.000 In April 2007, it bought uranium mills in Utah, it bought in Wyoming, it bought in Texas.
00:33:06.000 And then the Times published an article showing the 2005 trips linked to the Kazakhstan mining deal between the Clintons and Uranium One and JSTRA.
00:33:15.000 JSTRA had donated $31.3 million to Clinton's foundation.
00:33:19.000 Okay, and the Clintons were still involved after JSTRA dropped out.
00:33:23.000 So the idea here from Shep Smith and some people on the left is once JSTRA was gone, what are you whining about?
00:33:27.000 Here is the answer.
00:33:28.000 Mr. Telfer, right, who's the new head of Uranium One, gave undisclosed donations of somewhere between $1.3 million and $5.6 million in contributions.
00:33:37.000 They were reported from a constellation of people with ties to Uranium One or Eurasia.
00:33:41.000 Without those assets, the Russians would have had no interest in the deal, the Kazakh assets, they would have had no interest in the deals.
00:33:47.000 And it wasn't just that.
00:33:48.000 It wasn't just that.
00:33:48.000 Apparently, early on in the Obama administration, it looked like Uranium One was not going to be able to get what they needed from Kazakhstan.
00:33:54.000 And so they went to the Clintons and said, can you help?
00:33:57.000 And whether Hillary had anything to do with it or not, the State Department intervened.
00:34:01.000 Amid this influx of Uranium One connected money, Bill Clinton was invited to speak in Moscow in June 2010, the same month Rosatom struck its deal for a majority stake in Uranium One.
00:34:09.000 It was his single highest fee.
00:34:11.000 It was a half a million dollar fee for Bill Clinton, paid by Renaissance Capital, a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin.
00:34:17.000 Okay, so it is not at all clear that Hillary had nothing to do with this.
00:34:21.000 It is not at all clear that Uranium One was completely clean.
00:34:24.000 You know, I think that the most stretched allegation is the idea that Uranium One was greenlit by Hillary Clinton personally, but the idea that they intervened in 2009-2010, the State Department intervened a little bit to help with Kazakh issues for Uranium One, that's not out of bounds.
00:34:40.000 It's weird that the entire Obama administration would sign off on all of this knowing that Uranium One donations were going to the Clinton Foundation.
00:34:45.000 All of this is worthy of investigation.
00:34:47.000 So that's answer number one.
00:34:48.000 Yes.
00:34:48.000 This is worthy of investigation.
00:34:49.000 No, it's not quite as clear-cut as Shep Smith wanted to make it.
00:34:52.000 Okay.
00:34:52.000 Question number two.
00:34:53.000 So, this is a different question.
00:34:57.000 Special counsel suggests that the people who are in charge of investigating, namely Jeff Sessions, he's not capable of doing a full investigation.
00:35:03.000 Remember,
00:35:04.000 Those are people that we hire, right?
00:35:06.000 Jeff Sessions is a guy we already pay to do these investigations.
00:35:08.000 The reason we have a special counsel now is because of Donald Trump.
00:35:11.000 Okay, Jeff Sessions originally recused himself because he testified wrongly that he had never met with anybody from Russia.
00:35:17.000 This, of course, was not true.
00:35:19.000 And so he recused himself in the Russia investigation.
00:35:22.000 The reason Rod Rosenstein recused himself and appointed a special counsel is because Trump tried to use Rod Rosenstein as a rationale for firing James Comey.
00:35:31.000 That forced Rosenstein to appoint a special counsel.
00:35:33.000 So now you're saying that on the Hillary stuff, Sessions isn't capable of investigating.
00:35:37.000 I don't really see why.
00:35:38.000 And you say on the Hillary stuff that Rosenstein isn't capable of investigating.
00:35:42.000 I don't really see why.
00:35:43.000 So I'm not sure why a special counsel is necessary as opposed to a normal DOJ investigation.
00:35:47.000 So Sessions has just been batted about by both sides in Congress.
00:35:50.000 The Democrats are bashing Sessions about by suggesting he's dishonest, that he lied about his Russian ties.
00:35:54.000 I find that very hard to believe.
00:35:56.000 And then, the people on the right are bashing him about for not appointing a special counsel, as Donald Trump obviously wants to quote-unquote, lock her up.
00:36:04.000 My sympathies are largely with Jeff Sessions here.
00:36:06.000 So we'll start with Jeff Sessions talking to Ted Lieu, the egregiously bad California congressperson.
00:36:13.000 He's currently running against a guy that I have endorsed in his race.
00:36:18.000 And Ted Lieu went after Sessions and said that he was basically a liar about Russia.
00:36:21.000 Here was Sessions' response yesterday on the Hill.
00:36:24.000 I won't repeat it, Mr. Chairman.
00:36:27.000 But I hope the Congressman knows, and I hope all of you know, that my answer to that question, I did not meet with the Russians, was explicitly responding to the shocking suggestion that I, as a surrogate, was meeting on a continuing basis with Russian officials, and the implication was to impact the campaign in some sort of nefarious way.
00:36:52.000 And all I did was meet in my office with the ambassador, which we didn't discuss anything like that.
00:36:58.000 So I just want to say I appreciate the congressman's right.
00:37:03.000 I guess he can say it's free speech.
00:37:05.000 He can't be sued here.
00:37:08.000 So that's just my response.
00:37:12.000 So basically, there's Sessions saying, you know, if I could sue you, I would, but there is a parliamentary immunity, so you can sue whatever you want on the floor of Congress.
00:37:19.000 Sessions then was asked by Trey Gowdy and Jim Jordan from Ohio why he was not setting up a Hillary special counsel.
00:37:27.000 Again, I don't think Sessions is doing the wrong thing here.
00:37:29.000 I think that
00:37:30.000 Just because Eric Holder politicized the Department of Justice and used it as a political weapon on behalf of Barack Obama, just because he called himself Obama's wingman and then went out and acted like it, doesn't mean that the DOJ can afford to have every Attorney General be used as a baton by the administration.
00:37:44.000 And I think Sessions is saying something true here.
00:37:46.000 Here he was asked why he's not setting up a special counsel for Hillary, and here was his answer.
00:37:50.000 Well, Mr. Comey is no longer the director of the FBI.
00:37:53.000 Thank goodness.
00:37:54.000 We have an excellent man of integrity and ability in Chris Wray, and I think he's going to do an outstanding job, and I'm very happy about that.
00:38:02.000 He's not here today, Attorney General, especially if you are, and I'm asking for a special counsel.
00:38:05.000 The time of the gentleman has expired.
00:38:06.000 And I would say looks like there's not enough basis to appoint a special counsel.
00:38:12.000 Okay, and that is the proper legal standard.
00:38:13.000 Jeff Sessions is just doing his job.
00:38:14.000 He takes an enormous amount of crap for it.
00:38:16.000 But Sessions on this particular issue, while the Democrats are ripping him for being unfair, Sessions is the one who basically appointed the special counsel, you know, to investigate the 2016 election.
00:38:25.000 And it was Sessions who right now is saying, listen, I need a legal standard in order for me to meet that legal standard.
00:38:30.000 By the way, it's not like Sessions isn't doing his job.
00:38:32.000 I mean, Sessions said yesterday that they are in full investigation mode against 27 separate leaks outside of the Trump administration.
00:38:38.000 Here's what he had to say on that.
00:38:41.000 We had about nine open investigations of classified leaks in the last three years.
00:38:48.000 We have 27 investigations open today.
00:38:52.000 We intend to get to the bottom of these leaks.
00:38:54.000 I think it has reached epidemic proportions.
00:38:58.000 It cannot be allowed to continue, and we will do our best effort to ensure that it does not continue.
00:39:06.000 You know, this is one of the things that people don't get about the Trump administration.
00:39:08.000 You saw a bunch of Democrats who are going around saying, Trump should be impeached.
00:39:11.000 Bob Corker today.
00:39:12.000 We should remove the ability for Trump to launch nuclear weapons.
00:39:15.000 Outside of what Trump says, and the fact that no major legislation has been passed, when Trump leaves his department heads alone,
00:39:23.000 What they do is within, not only within the normal bounds of political conduct, it is typically quite good.
00:39:29.000 Jeff Sessions has been fine as the Attorney General, and all the crap he's had to take in order to do that is, I think, a foolish mistake on the part of people on the right and the left.
00:39:39.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.
00:39:42.000 So things that I like this week, I've been encouraged by Andrew Klavan and by Michael Knowles, the ex-Gribble Michael Knowles,
00:39:53.000 It is a supremely pretentious book, but it does have a lot of interesting things to say about what it is that makes poetry reach us and how human language has changed over time and really how human
00:40:08.000 understanding of the world has changed over time and has simultaneously enriched the variety of language while undercutting the innate richness of each word.
00:40:18.000 So the sort of idea, the sort of thesis behind poetic diction is that a long time ago, when you look at words like ruach in the Bible, ruach means both wind and spirit.
00:40:29.000 And so we have two words for that, right?
00:40:30.000 We have wind and spirit.
00:40:31.000 When you read old ancient books,
00:40:35.000 And you read the word ruach, it has a different sense, right?
00:40:37.000 A sense of richness to it that neither wind nor spirit really does justice to because it includes both.
00:40:42.000 The reason for that, says Barfield, is because people perceived more meaning to be associated with the physical world than they necessarily perceived to be associated with the physical world today.
00:40:51.000 And so we've been more specific with our language, but that also, that specificity means that when we read the word
00:40:57.000 Wind now.
00:40:58.000 It doesn't have the same impact as when we read older poetry.
00:41:00.000 When you read Homer, it feels replete with a certain meaning that modern poetry just can't match, and that's because the language itself of the time was richer in content, if not in variety.
00:41:08.000 So that's sort of the basic idea.
00:41:09.000 It's an interesting book.
00:41:11.000 I think that it has some really good insights about how language is used and how the use of it evolves over time.
00:41:16.000 Okay.
00:41:16.000 Time for some things that I hate.
00:41:22.000 All right, so thing that I hate, number one.
00:41:23.000 So Joe Biden obviously wants to run for president again.
00:41:27.000 I will be curious to see if there's any widespread media investigation of allegations that have been made by former Secret Service agents that he mistreated female Secret Service agents.
00:41:36.000 Those have been alleged in a couple of places that I've seen.
00:41:40.000 All of these allegations, I believe, should be hunted down and researched to the fullest extent.
00:41:45.000 But Biden obviously wants to run for president again.
00:41:47.000 He's making the rounds.
00:41:47.000 He thinks he would have won last time.
00:41:49.000 There's a poll out today that shows that Biden would beat Donald Trump if the election were held today 46 to 34, something along those lines.
00:41:55.000 In a sort of normal Democrat versus Trump election, it would be something like 48 to 34.
00:42:01.000 In any case, Biden is making the rounds.
00:42:03.000 And he was asked specifically about the shooting in Texas, that recent church shooting in Texas.
00:42:07.000 And he was asked, why would you want to remove the gun from the hands of the guy who stopped the church shooter, right?
00:42:13.000 The Stephen Williford, the NRA former gun instructor hero, who shot the bad guy.
00:42:19.000 And here was Biden's response, which is truly insane.
00:42:22.000 Well, first of all, the kind of gun being carried, it shouldn't be carried.
00:42:27.000 Assault weapons are... I wrote the first, the last serious gun control law that was written, it was law for ten years, and it outlawed assault weapons, and it outlawed weapons with magazines that had a whole lot of bullets, and so you could kill a whole lot of people a lot more quickly, number one.
00:42:45.000 Number two, it's just rational to say certain people shouldn't have guns.
00:42:50.000 Now the fact that some people with guns
00:42:52.000 Thank you.
00:43:07.000 Well, including presumably the guy who shot the bad guy.
00:43:10.000 So Joe Biden knows less about guns than virtually anyone else.
00:43:12.000 I mean, this is a guy who said that you should shoot through the front door of your house with a shotgun, or you should go out on your balcony and you should blow a couple rounds.
00:43:21.000 He's ridiculous.
00:43:22.000 But you wonder why people think that the Democrats are gun grabbers?
00:43:25.000 It's because of this.
00:43:27.000 The question that preceded this answer was specifically about
00:43:32.000 Whether the shooter of the bad guy should have had a gun, and that was Biden's specific answer.
00:43:36.000 Pretty amazing.
00:43:36.000 Okay, other things that I hate.
00:43:37.000 So, Shannon Sharp, who has become a frequent contributor to Things I Hate, so I appreciate his presence, over on Fox Sports 1, he says he's praising Colin Kaepernick.
00:43:46.000 So, Colin Kaepernick was named the GQ Person of the Year, or Citizen of the Year, which makes perfect sense, since he didn't vote, he doesn't speak publicly, he doesn't have much to say.
00:43:54.000 Maybe Colin Kaepernick will never get the respect
00:44:10.000 That he deserves for what he did.
00:44:12.000 But I believe, when it's all said and done, and history is written 30, 40 years from now, Colin Kaepernick will be looked upon as some of these mythical figures of the Dr. Kings, the Muhammad Ali's, and the Rosa Parks.
00:44:26.000 Okay, first of all, to compare Colin Kaepernick to Martin Luther King is utterly, abjectly insane.
00:44:31.000 Martin Luther King not only provided a message that inspired millions of people, it was a uniting message.
00:44:36.000 To compare him to Rosa Parks is also insane.
00:44:38.000 Rosa Parks helped organize with the NAACP the legal pretext for ending legalized segregation in the United States.
00:44:45.000 Nothing like that is occurring.
00:44:46.000 To compare to Muhammad Ali, however, is a little bit different.
00:44:48.000 Comparing him to Muhammad Ali actually is not too far off, because if you go back and you look at what Muhammad Ali was saying during the 60s and the early 70s, a lot of it was quite extreme, a lot of it was quite anti-American, and there's been a rewriting of Muhammad Ali's history.
00:45:00.000 So is it possible that 30 years from now the left will have rewritten Colin Kaepernick into some sort of gentleman hero?
00:45:05.000 It's certainly a possibility, but that would just demonstrate that history can be rewritten in a myriad of false ways.
00:45:10.000 Okay, so I was going to do some Bible talk this week, but I actually did some extra Bible talk in last week's mailbag.
00:45:15.000 So if you want Bible talk, go back and listen to that.
00:45:18.000 But we have to break so that I can get on a plane and come back home and do my show from the studio tomorrow.
00:45:22.000 Thanks again to the folks over at Fox News for allowing me to use the studio.
00:45:25.000 I really appreciate it.
00:45:26.000 And we will see you tomorrow.
00:45:27.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:45:28.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.