The Ben Shapiro Show - August 24, 2017


How The Left Blows Itself Up, In 4 Easy Steps | Ep. 369


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

208.29128

Word Count

9,630

Sentence Count

642

Misogynist Sentences

18

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

How is it possible that the left is blowing it, like, completely blowing it? We will explain in 4 simple steps how the Left is destroying itself. The truth is, the left are really destroying its own capacity to stop President Trump. They ve been whining and bitching about Trump consistently since his election and far before, and now they finally have a two-week period where Trump is just going out and saying silly things after silly things, and the left can t stop themselves. They can't stop themselves because their entire endgame here is to castigate all of their political opponents as Nazis and Trump sycophants. And in their pursuit of that endgame, they are failing at a very simple task: not suck. There are four simple ways that the Left are failing to do this: 1. Pick unpopular issues. 2. Don t let unpopular issues distract you from the task at hand. 3. Focus on other things. 4. Don't let the unpopular things distract you. 5. Stop focusing on the things that don t matter. 6. Stop caring about other people and focus on what matters. 7. Stop worrying about what s not important. 8. Stop obsessing about things that aren t. 9. Stop getting distracted. 10. Stop letting other people s feelings get in the way of your own agenda. 11. Stop trying to do things you can t control. 12. Stop making other people's problems your problem, not your problem. 13. Stop being a distraction. 14. Stop doing things you don t care about. 15. Stop complaining about it. 16. Start being a problem you can't solve? 17. Stop talking about it And so on and so on, let s get back to work! Today's episode is a mashup of four simple steps to defeat the problem you're trying to solve, and get back on track. What do you need to do to stop the problem? How do you know you re going to win the next two weeks? What are you waiting for? Can you do it, then you can start getting back on the road to victory? You re not going to get there? ? Can t wait for the next four weeks of Trump s next episode of The Ben Shapiro Show? Join us in the next episode? Tweet me to let me know what you think of this?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So President Trump has had a pretty rough two-week stretch.
00:00:02.000 How is it possible that the left is blowing it?
00:00:04.000 Like, completely blowing it?
00:00:06.000 We will explain in four simple steps how the left is destroying itself.
00:00:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:10.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:17.000 Okay, so many a thing to discuss, but the truth is that the left is really destroying its own capacity to stop President Trump.
00:00:24.000 You know, they've been whining and bitching about President Trump consistently ever since his election and far before, and now they finally have a two-week period where Trump is just a gaffe machine.
00:00:33.000 He's just going out and saying silly thing after silly thing, and the left can't stop themselves.
00:00:37.000 They can't stop themselves because their endgame here, their entire endgame, is to castigate all of their political opponents as Nazis and Trump sycophants, and in their pursuit
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00:02:22.000 The Democrats are coming off a two-week period where the President of the United States pretended he didn't know what the alt-right was, and then said that there were very fine people at a torchlight rally with white supremacists.
00:02:32.000 And they're somehow losing.
00:02:33.000 Somehow they're losing.
00:02:34.000 See, this is the amazing thing.
00:02:35.000 You look at the polling data right now.
00:02:37.000 What the polling data shows is, in North Carolina, for example, a poll yesterday, Trump would still beat Hillary Clinton 43-39.
00:02:43.000 And this was the case all throughout the election cycle.
00:02:45.000 And there's been a lot of talk for the last two years about how the elections, the polls, they're all a referendum on Trump.
00:02:51.000 The world revolves around Trump.
00:02:52.000 Trump is our son, and we all revolve around him in planetary orbit.
00:02:56.000 The reality is that the last election cycle was not about Trump.
00:03:00.000 The last election cycle was about Hillary Clinton.
00:03:03.000 Donald Trump just showed how unpopular Hillary Clinton is.
00:03:06.000 That's all that election cycle was.
00:03:07.000 It wasn't about Trump being some genius god king.
00:03:09.000 It wasn't about 40 chests upside down underwater, hungry, hungry hippos, magga, magga, magga.
00:03:13.000 It wasn't about any of that stuff.
00:03:15.000 It was about Hillary Clinton is the least appealing human being ever to walk the planet.
00:03:19.000 Hillary Clinton makes the White Walkers on Game of Thrones look as though they are attractive date prospects.
00:03:24.000 Hillary Clinton was a garbage candidate.
00:03:27.000 She was such a bad candidate that—this is real statistic, okay?
00:03:30.000 Donald Trump won fewer votes in Wisconsin than Mitt Romney did in 2012, and he won the state.
00:03:35.000 Hillary Clinton, no one likes her.
00:03:37.000 Okay, so, what that means, and you looked at the polls all during the election cycle, and what you saw was Trump was very consistent, always between 40 and 43 percent the entire election, until he got to 46 right at the end.
00:03:47.000 Hillary Clinton was bouncing around between 50 and 39.
00:03:50.000 50 and 39.
00:03:51.000 That's a really broad range.
00:03:52.000 That's a really broad range.
00:03:54.000 So what Democrats seem to neglect, in all of their hatred of Trump, is that they have to not suck.
00:03:59.000 And they are failing at this very simple task of not sucking.
00:04:02.000 And there are four ways that they are failing at this very simple task.
00:04:05.000 So the first thing they do is they pick unpopular issues.
00:04:08.000 So recall all the way back to last week when President Trump gave his ridiculous press conference after he had already given a press conference where he made a very good statement about why he doesn't like the KKK and neo-Nazis.
00:04:20.000 This is a one-foot putt, okay?
00:04:21.000 This is a tap-in.
00:04:23.000 The next day he comes out and he says, well, what I said yesterday?
00:04:27.000 Um, no, no.
00:04:29.000 And he does that for no reason.
00:04:30.000 And all his advisors are saying, dude, what?
00:04:33.000 Like John Kelly is looking around and saying to himself, I can't believe this is my life now.
00:04:38.000 Everyone is wondering what he's doing.
00:04:39.000 So the Democrats have a great talking point.
00:04:41.000 They have a great talking point.
00:04:42.000 I can cut the Democrat ad for them, okay?
00:04:44.000 The Democratic ad is Donald Trump saying, okay, it's a clip from the Charlottesville rally, the Friday night Charlottesville rally with all of the white supremacists and Richard Spencer and people chanting, Jews will not replace us.
00:04:55.000 And then a clip of Donald Trump saying, very fine people were at that.
00:04:59.000 And then a clip of Donald Trump with ex-congressional candidate shaking his hand.
00:05:04.000 That's the ad, right?
00:05:05.000 The ad writes itself.
00:05:06.000 It's the easiest thing in the world.
00:05:07.000 So what do the Democrats do?
00:05:09.000 They do the thing that they are the best at.
00:05:10.000 They are unbelievably stupid.
00:05:12.000 They decide that what is deeply important is to talk about Confederate statues, right?
00:05:16.000 This is what they're going to talk about, Confederate statues.
00:05:18.000 So they move from an issue where 95% of the population agrees, neo-Nazis, bad, and they move instead to an issue where 50% of the population thinks they're wrong.
00:05:28.000 There's a Quinnipiac poll that came out yesterday showing 50% of Americans don't want to get rid of these Confederate memorials or don't care about it, and 39% say they want to get rid of them.
00:05:36.000 So what do the media choose to do?
00:05:37.000 What does the left choose to do?
00:05:38.000 Let's talk about Confederate memorials.
00:05:40.000 Do you understand how dumb this is?
00:05:43.000 Cataclysmically stupid, this is.
00:05:45.000 It's incredible.
00:05:46.000 And it's exactly what the alt-right wanted.
00:05:48.000 Why do you think the alt-right rallied around a Robert E. Lee statue?
00:05:51.000 You think they did it because they really care that deeply about a Robert E. Lee statue?
00:05:54.000 The reason the alt-right and white supremacists rallied around the Robert E. Lee statue is because they were attempting to demonstrate to the public that there was a broad swath of people who agree with them.
00:06:03.000 There aren't a broad swath of people who agree with them, but there are a lot of people who agree with them on the Confederate statue issue for different reasons.
00:06:10.000 Not because they think that slavery was great, like some of the members of the white supremacist groups believe, but because they believe that this is part of American history.
00:06:17.000 Don't wipe away American history just because it's uncomfortable.
00:06:20.000 So what do the Democrats do?
00:06:21.000 What does the left do?
00:06:22.000 They decide that it is imperative that we have this out right now.
00:06:25.000 They did the same thing after Dylan Storm Roof.
00:06:28.000 Dylan Storm Roof goes and he shoots up a black church and he kills, what was it, 19 people?
00:06:32.000 Something like that?
00:06:33.000 I can't remember the exact number.
00:06:35.000 I think it was 19 or 20 people.
00:06:37.000 He kills an enormous number of people, murders them in cold blood.
00:06:39.000 He's a white supremacist piece of human feces.
00:06:42.000 So what do we do?
00:06:43.000 Do we talk about why white supremacism is bad?
00:06:45.000 No, we have a nationwide conversation about the Confederate flag, which literally millions of people do not hold in contempt and do not think connect with white supremacism.
00:06:54.000 Because the left constantly is trying to broaden out their agenda.
00:06:57.000 They can't just target the people we all agree suck.
00:06:59.000 They have to instead try to lump in all of the people they don't like with all the people that we all agree suck.
00:07:05.000 They have to make that into one giant group.
00:07:07.000 So, their first step, the first step in the Democratic failures, they pick unpopular issues.
00:07:11.000 So here are two issues that are unpopular that they've picked.
00:07:13.000 They've picked the Confederate flag issue, the Confederate statue issue, even Chris Matthews.
00:07:17.000 Don't let anybody say Chris Matthews.
00:07:19.000 He comes to the show.
00:07:21.000 Even he recognizes that all of this stuff about the Confederate statues has no limiting principle, meaning that the same people who want to rip down the Confederate statues want to get rid of the Washington statues, as Trump said, and the Jefferson statues, and now they want to get rid of the Columbus statue in Columbus Circle in New York.
00:07:36.000 The reason there's a statue to Christopher Columbus is because it was a great thing for the world that Western civilization discovered the Americas.
00:07:42.000 It was.
00:07:43.000 Okay, it wasn't a great thing for a lot of the people who were living there, but it was a great thing for world history that Western civilization ended up discovering the Americas, which were a primitive place filled with peoples who had no concept of modern civilization.
00:07:57.000 It doesn't mean Christopher Columbus is a wonderful guy.
00:07:59.000 It doesn't mean he didn't commit any sins.
00:08:01.000 It doesn't mean he didn't enslave the natives.
00:08:03.000 He did all of these terrible things, but that's not what we're celebrating when we celebrate Columbus Day.
00:08:07.000 We're celebrating the fact that Western civilization is good, even though there are evil things that Western civilization has done.
00:08:13.000 But, the entire movement to rip down these statues,
00:08:16.000 It's all about attempting to wipe away any history that people find gross because they can't just acknowledge Western— Here's the thing.
00:08:24.000 Here's the big disagreement.
00:08:25.000 There are a lot of people, like me, who say Western civilization is the greatest civilization in the history of the planet, bar none, by far, not close, and there are grains of evil embedded in it.
00:08:35.000 And we've spent most of our history trying to wipe those away gradually.
00:08:39.000 And then there are people on the other side who say Western civilization is bad, and racism, and bigotry, and slavery, these are inherent parts of the foundations of Western civilization, and that's why Western civilization is bad.
00:08:49.000 So for people like me, I look at the Columbus statue, or a Washington statue, or a Jefferson statue, or even a Lee statue, and I say, this was all part of our history, and it's important that we respect the history enough to discuss it.
00:09:00.000 Because this is all part of building a civilization.
00:09:02.000 Even the nasty parts are part of building a civilization.
00:09:04.000 This is what I think Katrina Pearson was trying to say, although she said it badly the other night.
00:09:08.000 And the left says, all of these things are bad.
00:09:11.000 Washington is bad, because Western civilization is bad.
00:09:13.000 It's racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe.
00:09:15.000 Columbus is bad.
00:09:16.000 But even Chris Matthews recognizes that this is a stupid move by Democrats, but they're engaging in it anyway.
00:09:21.000 Here's Chris Matthews over at LACC explaining why you shouldn't talk confederacy.
00:09:25.000 What's going on?
00:09:25.000 I don't even know.
00:09:26.000 Kathleen, explain.
00:09:27.000 Go.
00:09:29.000 Nobody's going after Teddy Roosevelt.
00:09:31.000 And the idea of going after slave owners, you'd have to basically take away our history, because the first six presidents or so had slaves.
00:09:40.000 You'd have to go after people like Washington and, of course, all the Southern guys, all the ones who followed him, Madison and, of course, Monroe and the rest, and, of course, old Hickory, because it was Indian fighting and killing.
00:09:51.000 Where do we stop?
00:09:52.000 Where do we stop at saying that we're going to recognize it for what it was,
00:09:56.000 And move on.
00:09:57.000 And when are we going to say no?
00:09:58.000 Summit has to be de-celebrated, taken away from our site.
00:10:02.000 Okay, one of the things that's fascinating here is there's a great divide between Chris Matthews Democrats and Al Sharpton Democrats, and it seems as though the Democratic Party is moving in the direction of Al Sharpton Democrats, not Chris Matthews Democrats.
00:10:12.000 Matthews is much more like Joe Biden.
00:10:14.000 He's a crazy old kook who talks about coming out of the show, but he actually has a concept of what people in middle America are thinking.
00:10:22.000 People like Al Sharpton don't, and so they are ensconced in this.
00:10:25.000 I had a discussion with Don Lemon last night on CNN.
00:10:28.000 And I explained to him that, you know, just because the media, people like Don Lemon, see the Confederate statue issue as black and white, no racial connotations, just a black and white issue, evil versus non-evil, that doesn't mean that's how Americans see it.
00:10:41.000 And moving in that direction is actually a large mistake.
00:10:43.000 So that's one issue.
00:10:45.000 Step one, again, for the Democrats is pick unpopular issues instead of popular ones.
00:10:48.000 Here's another unpopular issue they've chosen to pick.
00:10:50.000 There are hundreds of people, assuming these are all members of the left, not a lot of members of the right who would do this, who are rallying outside NFL headquarters because of Colin Kaepernick, who is a garbage quarterback.
00:11:02.000 He had the worst quarterback rating of any quarterback in the league two years ago.
00:11:07.000 He played like five games last year before he was benched in favor of basically some sort of poodle.
00:11:12.000 I mean, he was such a bad quarterback that they basically took an inanimate object and stuck it behind center for the 49ers until he lost his job.
00:11:18.000 So there's been this big rallying effect around Kaepernick and Democrats are pushing this.
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00:12:43.000 Okay, so the other issue that the Democrats have chosen to focus on in the last two weeks, instead of discussing why neo-Nazism is bad, God, you people are morons, is they've decided to talk about Colin Kaepernick, a guy who kneels for the national anthem, which is the only reason anyone thinks he's important.
00:12:59.000 You know how many second string quarterbacks in America lose their job every year?
00:13:03.000 A lot of NFL quarterbacks lose their job every year because they suck.
00:13:06.000 It happens a lot.
00:13:08.000 Okay, Tim Tebow lost his job even though he took his team to the playoffs after winning a series of games.
00:13:13.000 He couldn't throw a forward pass and so people said, okay, we're not going to give him a job anymore and now he's playing baseball for like the Class A New York Mets, essentially.
00:13:21.000 The left, though, has decided that Colin Kaepernick, despite being world's crappiest quarterback, must have a job.
00:13:26.000 You wonder why people like me stopped watching ESPN?
00:13:29.000 Maybe it's because I got sick of ESPN devoting its entire channel to explaining why a guy who was barely drafted in the seventh round, Michael Sam, had to be employed in the NFL, and now they're devoting all of their time to why a guy who can't throw a pass in the NFL, I mean, threw some of the worst passes of the year last year, must have a job because he kneeled for the national anthem.
00:13:46.000 So, Tariq Nasheed, who has the IQ of a kumquat,
00:13:50.000 He tweeted out yesterday, I'm with CAP because white supremacy is not patriotism.
00:13:55.000 And he wrote those all with capital letters and on different lines.
00:13:57.000 I don't know if that's supposed to be some sort of acronym, but I'm not sure what W-S-I-N-P or whatever that was stands for.
00:14:05.000 Eugene Gu, MD, no idea who this guy is, says, Blacklisting Kaepernick is completely un-American and proves why his protest is necessary.
00:14:11.000 Hashtag I'm with CAP.
00:14:13.000 Maybe he's not being blacklisted, maybe he stinks.
00:14:15.000 Maybe he stinks.
00:14:15.000 It's funny, all the same people who are complaining that Kaepernick is being blacklisted laughed when people said that Tebow was being blacklisted.
00:14:21.000 Susan Sarandon, Bernie Sanders' devotee.
00:14:24.000 She says, rally in support of Colin Kaepernick in front of the NFL.
00:14:27.000 Together we win.
00:14:28.000 I stand with Colin.
00:14:29.000 Okay, well if you stand with Colin, you're worth a fair bit of money.
00:14:31.000 Why don't you pay him?
00:14:32.000 Why don't you give him a job, Susan?
00:14:34.000 I mean, you still have a lot of Atlantic City money left over.
00:14:37.000 You can sell some of those oranges, I'm sure, on eBay.
00:14:40.000 Trayvon Free.
00:14:41.000 Travon Free?
00:14:42.000 Trayvon Free?
00:14:44.000 He posted a picture that says NFL, and it says Negro Fall In Line.
00:14:50.000 Not even a good acronym because it's really N-F-I-L, which doesn't make any sense.
00:14:54.000 He says, loving the signs today.
00:14:55.000 Hashtag, I'm with CAP.
00:14:57.000 These are all just protest signs in favor of Colin Kaepernick.
00:15:02.000 Again, Charles Clymer says, white people do not own patriotism.
00:15:06.000 Hashtag, I'm with CAP.
00:15:09.000 Well, I mean, I have a feeling that it's not a black or white issue, but if you kneel for the national anthem, I'm going to say that you probably don't get to claim patriotism.
00:15:16.000 I mean, like, again, there are certain unifying symbols.
00:15:19.000 The National Anthem is one of them.
00:15:20.000 You either see America as a good development that is moving in a direction toward perfecting its ills, or you see America as inherently bad.
00:15:27.000 Anil Dash, again, somebody I don't know, says, but so what, right?
00:15:29.000 That's a millionaire NFL player using his celebrity to take a stand.
00:15:33.000 Regular folks can't do that, can we?
00:15:34.000 But take a look at some of the young women who are out there today saying, hashtag, I'm with Cap.
00:15:39.000 They're from Girls Club NY, and it's a bunch of young girls.
00:15:43.000 They look like, everybody in the picture looks like they're black.
00:15:45.000 It says, hashtag, I'm with Cap.
00:15:47.000 We know our rights.
00:15:48.000 Thanks, Colin.
00:15:49.000 Thanks for what?
00:15:51.000 Thanks for what?
00:15:51.000 Did he give you any money or something?
00:15:53.000 Did he fund your club?
00:15:54.000 I assume Girls Club is actually a 501c3.
00:15:57.000 I like this one.
00:15:58.000 It says, he took a knee for me.
00:16:00.000 I'll take a stand for him.
00:16:01.000 Hashtag Kaepernick.
00:16:03.000 Did he really take a knee for you?
00:16:04.000 What did he do for you?
00:16:05.000 What was accomplished for you, random dude?
00:16:07.000 Wearing a shirt that was apparently a moo-moo from Drew Carey's mom on the show.
00:16:11.000 What exactly is this?
00:16:12.000 He took a knee for me.
00:16:13.000 I'll take a stand for him.
00:16:14.000 What knee did he take for you?
00:16:16.000 What change has Colin Kaepernick effectuated?
00:16:18.000 Any?
00:16:19.000 Have things gotten better for black people because of Colin Kaepernick?
00:16:22.000 I missed it.
00:16:22.000 And Francis Maxwell finally says, if people rallying to support a man who protested injustice upsets you, but the injustice doesn't, you are part of the problem.
00:16:30.000 Again, name the injustice, and I am happy to protest it with you.
00:16:34.000 But don't tell me that it's an injustice because a second string quarterback who can't throw a forward pass can't get a job because he also alienates fans because he sits for the national anthem.
00:16:43.000 Okay, so again, that's step number one in the Democrats' plan to alienate all America, is to pick issues like Colin Kaepernick and Confederate statues.
00:16:49.000 Okay, step two is to continue to pick the worst candidates you can possibly find.
00:16:53.000 So, step two meant last year picking Hillary Clinton, and they're still trotting out Hillary Clinton as though she's a thing.
00:17:01.000 The audio from her new book, What Happened, which I really think it should be called What the Hell Happened, but it's called What Happened.
00:17:07.000 And here is audio of Hillary Clinton reading from What Happened by Hillary Rodham Clinton.
00:17:12.000 The only book that she's ever going to sell, by the way, because all her other books are garbage.
00:17:16.000 But I love this.
00:17:18.000 She says maybe her big problem was that she didn't call Trump a creep.
00:17:20.000 Yes, your big problem, Hillary, is that you didn't play the woman card enough.
00:17:23.000 I'm sure that was it.
00:17:24.000 I'm sure that if you'd only done this, that would have changed everything.
00:17:28.000 It was incredibly uncomfortable.
00:17:31.000 He was literally breathing down my neck.
00:17:33.000 My skin crawled.
00:17:37.000 It was one of those moments where you wish you could hit pause and ask everyone watching, well, what would you do?
00:17:46.000 Do you stay calm, keep smiling, and carry on as if he weren't repeatedly invading your space?
00:17:53.000 Or do you turn, look him in the eye, and say loudly and clearly, back up, you creep.
00:18:00.000 Get away from me.
00:18:01.000 I know you love to intimidate women, but you can't intimidate me, so back up.
00:18:08.000 Okay, so what I love about that is that that's such a jerk store response, right?
00:18:11.000 It's like a year after this happened, and now she finally came up with the response she should have said.
00:18:15.000 Because if she had said that, by the way, it would have gone over like gangbusters.
00:18:18.000 It really would have.
00:18:18.000 I mean, she would have done a lot better to strike back at Trump by using sort of Trumpian language, but she didn't.
00:18:24.000 Also, I have a hard time believing that Hillary Clinton has a problem hanging around creepy men.
00:18:29.000 Her husband is an alleged rapist, gang.
00:18:32.000 Okay, if you're talking about people who have literally breathed down her neck, last time Bill Clinton tried to breathe down her neck, she tossed a lamp at him.
00:18:38.000 So this routine where she was really victimized by Donald Trump because he was within four feet of her is really amazing.
00:18:44.000 And this was the lady they thought was gonna win.
00:18:46.000 They thought she definitely had to win.
00:18:47.000 I can't imagine why she lost.
00:18:49.000 And then, there's a Hillary Clinton aide who was out there yesterday saying that Hillary would have won if not for Russia.
00:18:53.000 Yeah, keep banging this from you, idiot.
00:19:00.000 Yes.
00:19:01.000 You think she would have?
00:19:02.000 Somebody powder that guy's forehead.
00:19:04.000 I think there are a number of factors, including Jim Comey, Putin not minding his business, third, the historical curse of third term.
00:19:14.000 I think any of those things, if you could change them, she lost by 70,000 votes in three states.
00:19:19.000 Okay, so, again, they're just going to keep complaining about this, which means they're going to keep picking bad candidates, because the closer they think this election was, the more they think that they don't have to change anything.
00:19:28.000 And that's what they're doing now.
00:19:29.000 So who are the bad candidates they're going to pick?
00:19:31.000 Well, they're talking about Kamala Harris.
00:19:34.000 Seriously.
00:19:35.000 Like the senator from here, from my great, stupid state of California, Kamala Harris.
00:19:39.000 They're gonna pick that trash heap.
00:19:41.000 This lady, who legitimately can't string together three tweets without making a big boo-boo.
00:19:45.000 Kamala Harris was a garbage Attorney General, and now she's made her entire name on being a black woman in the United States Senate, saying things that are outrageous, and the entire Democratic Party cheers for her because intersectionality!
00:19:57.000 Woo-hoo, she's black, she's a woman, woo-hoo!
00:20:00.000 Okay, here is what the polls say about Trump versus Kamala Harris.
00:20:02.000 Right now,
00:20:03.000 If Bernie Sanders were to run against Trump, this is the last poll I saw, Bernie Sanders would win 53 to 39.
00:20:10.000 53 to 39.
00:20:11.000 If Joe Biden were to run against Donald Trump, he would win 51 to 38.
00:20:16.000 And if Kamala Harris were to run against Trump, she would be dead even with him at 41 to 40.
00:20:22.000 So which one of those three candidates are the Democrats looking most seriously at?
00:20:26.000 Yep, they're looking at Kamala Harris.
00:20:28.000 They're looking at Cory Booker.
00:20:29.000 They're looking at all the people who fulfill the minority checklist.
00:20:32.000 This is what they're interested in because they're dumb.
00:20:34.000 So, that's step two.
00:20:35.000 Pick bad issues.
00:20:36.000 Pick bad issues with step one.
00:20:37.000 Pick bad candidates is step two.
00:20:40.000 Okay, step three I will get to in just a moment.
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00:22:08.000 Step three.
00:22:08.000 Step one, again, to recap.
00:22:10.000 Step one was pick unpopular issues.
00:22:12.000 Step two, pick unpopular candidates.
00:22:13.000 Step three, be a dumbass fascist.
00:22:16.000 Okay, so this is the new thing that the left has decided they're going to do.
00:22:18.000 Over the last few years, you know, they're going to shut down people like me when I go to speak at UC Berkeley.
00:22:22.000 They're going to protest outside, but not protest, get violent.
00:22:25.000 They're going to try to use the mechanisms of law in order to shut down people from speaking.
00:22:31.000 It's really insane.
00:22:33.000 Most Americans are not interested in shutting down free speech.
00:22:37.000 What's funny is that overall, most Americans are not interested in shutting down free speech, but they're all in favor of shutting down speech from the other side.
00:22:42.000 So this is why we have checks and balances in this country.
00:22:45.000 It's why we have a Bill of Rights in the first place.
00:22:47.000 If it were up to people on the right, there was a poll that said that, I think it was a plurality of right-wingers would be in favor of shutting down CNN.
00:22:53.000 A poll on the left, I'm sure, would be a plurality would be in favor of shutting down Fox News.
00:22:57.000 We're all in favor of shutting each other up.
00:22:58.000 Everyone's a little fascist.
00:23:00.000 Except that when it comes to the broad principle, we're not.
00:23:02.000 If you ask them, are you in favor of shutting down free speech?
00:23:04.000 They'll say no.
00:23:05.000 And that is the protection for free speech.
00:23:07.000 We can't rely on each other's goodwill and good nature to protect each other.
00:23:11.000 We have to rely on the fact that we know that if we attempt to encroach on somebody else's free speech, they will encroach on ours.
00:23:17.000 Well, the left has decided this is now going completely out the window.
00:23:20.000 There was an op-ed in the Washington Post, I think yesterday, talking about how free speech should go by the wayside for certain college speakers.
00:23:28.000 Right?
00:23:29.000 Free speech doesn't apply to people who are speaking hate speech.
00:23:31.000 This is a new talking point.
00:23:33.000 So here, for example, is a columnist from Law News, which is supposed to be a legal outlet.
00:23:38.000 Her name is Elora Nanos, and she was on with Tucker on Fox News last night.
00:23:42.000 And here she is basically saying that free speech should not be defended if it's speech that she doesn't like.
00:23:49.000 In many of these cases with these white supremacist groups, if you look at their mission statements, you will see that their underlying mission basically is genocide.
00:23:57.000 So if that's what they're trying to do, it has to be taken in that context.
00:24:02.000 Okay, so just because their underlying mission is gross does not mean that they are actually violating free speech protections.
00:24:09.000 It doesn't.
00:24:09.000 I mean, lots of people say gross things all the time that I hate and despise, including white supremacists and neo-Nazis.
00:24:15.000 They say this stuff all the time.
00:24:16.000 But that has no impact on whether that has protected speech or not.
00:24:21.000 What the left is trying to do is declare that Donald Trump is the real threat to free speech, so they can shut down Trump.
00:24:25.000 They're trying to declare that the right is the real threat to free speech, so they can shut down the right.
00:24:29.000 So here is a perfect example of this.
00:24:31.000 On ABC, there is this commentator whose name is, she's the senior White House correspondent actually, named Cecilia Vega, and she was on Good Morning America, and she suggested that Trump's speech, in which he ripped on the media, should actually be illegal.
00:24:43.000 It's basically incitement.
00:24:46.000 Well, George, this was incitement, plain and simple.
00:24:48.000 I turned my cell phone camera on the crowd just so you could see the reaction there as we were on the stage.
00:24:55.000 That's what it looks like when the president turns the crowd on you.
00:24:59.000 The president said that journalists hate this country.
00:25:02.000 That's what he told this crowd.
00:25:03.000 This was an assault that went on and on and on.
00:25:05.000 And, George, I've got to tell you, this one felt different.
00:25:08.000 It really feels like a matter of time, frankly, before someone gets hurt.
00:25:11.000 Okay, so I love that the left is willing to say this.
00:25:13.000 It was only a matter of time until some Bernie Sanders supporter snapped and tried to shoot a bunch of Republican Congress people, but you didn't hear any of this talk from the left.
00:25:20.000 It's only with regard to the right.
00:25:22.000 And this is the new talking point, is that it's not free speech for you, because everything you say is incitement.
00:25:26.000 Everything I say
00:25:28.000 is true and wonderful and glorious, but everything you say is incitement.
00:25:33.000 Democratic representative John Garamendi from California, he says the same thing.
00:25:36.000 He actually said that Trump's attacks on the media, it was just like Hitler!
00:25:40.000 It was exactly like Hitler!
00:25:41.000 Let me explain!
00:25:44.000 Man that is totally, totally out of control and engaged in rhetoric that slams the press, which by the way happens to be the very first thing that a dictator will do to secure his position, is to delegitimize the press.
00:26:00.000 And Trump has been at that for his entire campaign, in fact his entire
00:26:05.000 Don't you understand?
00:26:06.000 He must be shut up because he's trying to delegitimize us!
00:26:10.000 This nonsense where the left suggests that everything the right says is incitement.
00:26:13.000 Listen, I don't like a lot of what Trump said at that rally.
00:26:15.000 I talked about it on the show, but it was not incitement.
00:26:18.000 You know, later in the show I'm going to do the big ideas, what we do on Thursdays here.
00:26:21.000 I'm going to explain to you what the legal standard for incitement is, so that you know.
00:26:24.000 So that you don't fall prey to the stupidity of people who say things like, fire in a crowded theater and have no idea what the hell they're talking about.
00:26:30.000 I'm going to give you the full background on what the law says about all of this.
00:26:34.000 Suffice it to say, what Trump did the other night was not actual incitement.
00:26:37.000 It was not incitement under the law.
00:26:38.000 Okay, so those are the three things.
00:26:40.000 First three steps, and we'll get to the fourth in a second.
00:26:41.000 So first three steps were pick unpopular issues, pick horrifying candidates, and then be a fascist.
00:26:45.000 Okay, step four.
00:26:47.000 I think so.
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00:28:27.000 All right, so we're now finishing the square dance of idiocy from the Democratic Party, how they are blowing all of their political capital on nonsense.
00:28:35.000 Again, pick unpopular issues, pick crappy candidates, be a fascist, and finally, claim you are objective.
00:28:40.000 Yes, this is the big one.
00:28:41.000 So last night, I was on CNN with Don Lemon.
00:28:43.000 And Don Lemon, you recall, we played it on the show.
00:28:46.000 The night before, he had gone on this long rant about Trump, how Trump was crazy, and how Trump was attacking the media, and how this was evil and insane, and how he was mentally unstable and all.
00:28:55.000 So I was on with Lemon, and I said to Don, Don, I don't think that you're doing yourself a service when you do this.
00:29:01.000 Trump's entire case is that you guys are emotionally biased against him, that you have an animus against him, a specific hatred for him, and that you react emotionally to everything he says, and that you don't give him a fair shake because you don't like him.
00:29:14.000 Or you don't like his issues.
00:29:15.000 And Don says, no, no, no, it's not that I don't like him, I just think that he lies.
00:29:17.000 I say, well, then why don't you just fact check him in calm and clean manner instead of questioning his mental health, for example.
00:29:23.000 And then I said, listen, his whole case about Confederate statues, for example, is that you are stumping for a position while proclaiming that you're not.
00:29:30.000 And Don says, well, you know, I have a view on it, but that doesn't make me biased.
00:29:33.000 I say, well, Don, let me ask you a question.
00:29:35.000 Do you want the Confederate statues to go down or not?
00:29:37.000 And Don gives a long explanation about why Confederate statues are evil and racist.
00:29:42.000 And then he says, but I don't really have a perspective on it.
00:29:43.000 I said, Don, really?
00:29:45.000 Like, you really don't have a perspective?
00:29:46.000 This is the problem, okay?
00:29:47.000 So the media proclaim themselves objective, and then they do things that are completely non-objective.
00:29:52.000 And then they expect us all to fall for it.
00:29:54.000 This is the chief critique.
00:29:55.000 I don't spend a lot of time on this program ripping on MSNBC.
00:29:58.000 I spend a lot of time on CNN or the New York Times or the Washington Post, because MSNBC does not claim to be objective.
00:30:04.000 I laugh at the people on MSNBC, but I don't spend a lot of time trying to suggest that they are doing something dishonest, because they're not.
00:30:09.000 If Rachel Maddow says I'm of the left, here's my perspective.
00:30:12.000 She's wrong, but she's honest.
00:30:14.000 If people on CNN say, I have no perspective.
00:30:17.000 I am just, I was bestowed by God with the wisdom and ability to objectively remove myself from situations and speak clearly and truly about things without dint of perspective.
00:30:28.000 It's nonsense.
00:30:29.000 It's nonsense.
00:30:29.000 And so you see the same media claiming their objective, going nuts on Trump, and this allows Trump to win.
00:30:35.000 Trump's entire battle against the media is lent credence by the ineffective silliness of the media claiming that they're objective.
00:30:42.000 So Anderson Cooper, who claims he's an objective journalist, this was last night on his show.
00:30:46.000 Does this look like someone who's objective with regard to Trump?
00:30:49.000 Supporters of the president say his base doesn't care if the president lies or not, and many Republicans believe him over the media reporting about it.
00:30:55.000 So be it.
00:30:56.000 But even those who don't care if he lies have to at some point wonder, what drives it?
00:31:01.000 What is it that makes someone so uninhibited, so untethered by facts and the truth,
00:31:06.000 Not just in random tweets pounded out in the early morning hours while the president's watching morning news programs, but in settings like last night, lying directly to those who support him the most.
00:31:15.000 As one Trump biographer who joins us later tonight said, it might be fruitless to get inside the man's head, better just to look at what he does.
00:31:22.000 And when you do that, a thread becomes clear.
00:31:25.000 Whether it's insisting his inauguration crowds were the biggest, even though they weren't.
00:31:28.000 Or that he won a historic electoral vote victory, which he didn't.
00:31:31.000 Or that he said all the right things about a victim of domestic terrorism when so many Americans clearly believe he did not.
00:31:37.000 With President Trump, there's always one constant.
00:31:40.000 Himself.
00:31:40.000 Okay, so here's the thing.
00:31:42.000 What Anderson Cooper is saying, forget about whether it's true or false for a second because I think some of the critique here is actually not wrong.
00:31:47.000 I think some of it's overblown, but I think some of it's right.
00:31:49.000 I think Trump obviously is an incredibly narcissistic guy.
00:31:52.000 A very egocentric guy who takes himself far too seriously.
00:31:55.000 I think all of that's true, but
00:31:57.000 I am an opinion commentator.
00:31:59.000 Anderson Cooper is a quote-unquote journalist.
00:32:01.000 He's a quote-unquote objective journalist.
00:32:03.000 The media, by proclaiming that they are objective, end up destroying their own credibility because how can we trust them to tell us the truth when they're not even telling us the truth about themselves?
00:32:12.000 Joe Scarborough makes the same mistake.
00:32:14.000 Joe Scarborough's a little better because at least Scarborough is pretty clearly an opinion guy.
00:32:18.000 But, you know, Scarborough, I mean, you talk about credibility problems.
00:32:21.000 Listen, I don't mind Joe Scarborough all that much from time to time, but this is a guy who spent a lot of the primary season telling us how Donald Trump was wonderful and great and shorting it up with him and doing full events with him, and now look at him.
00:32:32.000 James Clapper said in August 2017 was identical to what Michael Hayden warned about in August of 2016.
00:32:40.000 And you know, you can go back and look at the transcripts.
00:32:43.000 Mika was saying, watch out, America.
00:32:45.000 Watch out, Republicans.
00:32:46.000 You better not do this.
00:32:47.000 Is this what you really want to do?
00:32:50.000 And I guess what's chilling is that Americans, enough Americans did want that.
00:32:57.000 They don't care.
00:32:59.000 Okay, again, this lament would have more teeth if you hadn't propped the guy up for a year.
00:33:05.000 When the media do these sorts of things, all they end up doing is promoting Trump, because Trump says, you guys are dishonest, and he's right.
00:33:10.000 There is a baseline level of dishonesty with the media.
00:33:12.000 The problem for Trump is that his critique goes further than that.
00:33:14.000 He says, not that you guys are dishonest about yourselves, but everything you say is infused with lies.
00:33:20.000 That's not true.
00:33:20.000 Some of the stuff they report is true.
00:33:22.000 In fact, most of the stuff, I'm going to say something that's very unpopular in right-wing media to say, but this is true, okay?
00:33:26.000 Here is the fact.
00:33:27.000 The New York Times and the Washington Post, these newspapers that we think are wildly biased and to the left and we hate, they are biased.
00:33:33.000 They are to the left.
00:33:34.000 If they were not expending hundreds of millions of dollars on reporters, the news business would be significantly poorer.
00:33:40.000 The fact is that sites like mine over at Daily Wire, we're a vastly growing website.
00:33:45.000 We have something like 65 million page views in the last month and 16 million unique visitors.
00:33:49.000 We're a very, very large website.
00:33:51.000 We rely on the reporting of other sites in order for us to supplement our own commentary.
00:33:57.000 Everyone does this.
00:33:58.000 Okay, so the idea that everything that you read in the media is not true, it's not true.
00:34:01.000 Okay, that's not true.
00:34:02.000 Everything you read in the media may be infused with bias, but that doesn't mean it's untrue.
00:34:06.000 This is where Trump's critique goes off the rails.
00:34:08.000 It is fair to call out the media for their bias.
00:34:09.000 It is not fair to say that they are lying all the time, because that is not true, and that is not accurate.
00:34:13.000 But when the media play into that,
00:34:16.000 By refusing to acknowledge their own bias, all they're doing is lending Trump credibility.
00:34:20.000 The more animated they get, the more emotional they get, the less they engage in fact-checking, and the more they engage in shouting and screaming, the more they end up destroying their own credibility and lending credence to everything that Trump accuses them of.
00:34:31.000 It's when I said to Lemon last night, I said to Don, listen dude, you actually want to defeat Trump?
00:34:36.000 I know you do.
00:34:37.000 If you actually want to defeat Trump, all you have to do is something very simple.
00:34:40.000 Turn the emotion down to one, and turn the fact-checking up to ten.
00:34:42.000 Because right now, all I'm hearing is the fact-checking at one, and the emotion at ten.
00:34:46.000 And that's what everyone else is hearing too, and so it sounds like you guys are just slap-fighting each other.
00:34:50.000 Okay, time for some things I like, things I hate, and then I'll explain to you, in the Big Idea, what the legal standard for actual incitement is under the Constitution.
00:34:58.000 Okay, so first, things I like.
00:35:00.000 So thanks to President Trump looking directly into the solar eclipse, like Emperor Maga Maga, we are doing things related to blindness this week.
00:35:09.000 And the most famous blind person in history is, of course, Homer, and his best book is The Iliad, the epic poem The Iliad.
00:35:16.000 It really is an easy read, believe it or not.
00:35:18.000 I know a lot of people don't like to read poetry, but it's not really poetry.
00:35:21.000 It's an adventurous story that's told in meter, and it is fantastic.
00:35:24.000 The reason that it's told that way, of course, is because originally it wasn't written.
00:35:27.000 Originally, it was essentially a song.
00:35:29.000 And people memorized it and handed it down, just like there are portions of the Bible that are sung because it was easier for people to remember.
00:35:36.000 That is also true with regard to—a lot of ancient literature was written in meter and poetry.
00:35:42.000 It's one of the reasons why, for example, when you read the Bible, the way that it was handed down, there's an actual song to it.
00:35:48.000 Like when I did my Bar Mitzvah Parsha, and when I did my portion, my Torah portion from the Bible, there's an actual tune that you're taught, and so you can actually remember what it is that you're reading.
00:35:57.000 When you read from a Torah scroll, not to get sidetracked, but when you read from a Torah scroll, there are actually no vowels and there's no punctuation.
00:36:03.000 So that means they actually have to memorize the vowels and the punctuation.
00:36:06.000 That's because of oral transmission for thousands of years.
00:36:08.000 It's actually very expensive and difficult to write a Torah.
00:36:11.000 Okay, the same is true for the Iliad, where a lot of it was memorized and handed down, but it is a wonderful expression of the ancient ideas of heroism and valor, and a fascinating look into the ancient world, the Iliad.
00:36:23.000 So go and get a copy of it and check it out.
00:36:26.000 Okay, other things that I like.
00:36:28.000 So yesterday, I have to say, my listeners are just fantastic.
00:36:31.000 So yesterday I called on you to go out and please make me some videos of the most wonderful, most wonderful video that I have seen in the last year.
00:36:42.000 And that was this Antifa protester getting knocked right in the balls by a gas canister.
00:36:47.000 And it is fantastic.
00:36:49.000 And so some people have created various versions of this and I want to show you
00:36:54.000 All of the various versions that have been created.
00:36:55.000 And I want to particularly thank several people who listened directly to my request.
00:36:59.000 And I do think it turned out the best.
00:37:01.000 My direct request for this to be set to Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You.
00:37:06.000 And we'll play that last because it's just spectacular.
00:37:09.000 It came out just- you guys are great.
00:37:10.000 It came out just like I imagined it.
00:37:11.000 You know, I imagined it, the picture was in my head, and it came out just as I had imagined it.
00:37:15.000 It was beautiful.
00:37:16.000 It sprang directly from my head to your keyboard and now onto your screen that you're about to watch.
00:37:21.000 So first, you have to see this in slow motion because the slow motion is pretty spectacular.
00:37:29.000 Okay.
00:37:31.000 Okay, so that...
00:37:34.000 You know, in the movie Idiocracy, there's a show called Ow, My Balls.
00:37:37.000 And they say that's sort of the end of Western civilization.
00:37:40.000 Yeah, that's what we're going to do now.
00:37:41.000 We call this segment Ow, My Balls.
00:37:43.000 OK, so this also was great.
00:37:45.000 Somebody sent this video to WWE announcing, and it is very, very good.
00:37:51.000 Oh, no!
00:37:53.000 Oh, come on!
00:37:54.000 Oh, no!
00:37:55.000 No, don't do this, John!
00:38:02.000 Oh, my God!
00:38:17.000 Okay, and then somebody put this little GIF together.
00:38:19.000 I'm still undecided on GIF or JIF, but here is it.
00:38:23.000 This is pretty amazing.
00:38:23.000 I love it.
00:38:24.000 This is Trump.
00:38:25.000 They flipped around the footage so that it works visibly.
00:38:28.000 Trump is not actually a lefty, but here's Trump.
00:38:30.000 And for those who can't see, it's Trump golfing.
00:38:32.000 And then it morphs right into this video.
00:38:41.000 It's pretty spectacular.
00:38:43.000 Looks like Trump is knocking the golf ball right into this guy's crotch.
00:38:46.000 Okay, uh, and then somebody did the the ever-present internet classic that is the mashup of the Titanic music with, uh, with pepper balls, which is what this guy has now been called.
00:38:57.000 I love it so much.
00:38:58.000 Here it is.
00:39:10.000 It's never gonna get old, man.
00:39:17.000 It's so good.
00:39:17.000 Again, I think the best thing about this is Colin Kaepernick apparently found a job rushing this guy off the field to play after this happened.
00:39:24.000 Okay, and finally, the one that I requested and I must have gotten.
00:39:27.000 10 to 15 people who actually went ahead and did this independently of one another.
00:39:30.000 Sorry we couldn't coordinate it, but credit to all of you.
00:39:32.000 You all get credit.
00:39:33.000 This is one of the versions that was put out online yesterday.
00:39:36.000 I think it is a fantastic version.
00:39:38.000 This is Pepperballs, set to Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You.
00:39:44.000 You just saw one of the protesters go up there and actually kick a can of that.
00:40:06.000 okay i'm sorry i need to watch that one again i'm sorry we're gonna do it again play it again run it back yeah you just saw one of the protesters go up there and actually kick a can of that
00:40:25.000 Oh, it's not often you get to laugh at somebody's pain.
00:40:27.000 Uh, and it's great.
00:40:28.000 It's great.
00:40:29.000 So that's, uh, okay.
00:40:30.000 Thank you all for, for doing your level best to make The Ben Shapiro Show great again.
00:40:34.000 Fantastic.
00:40:35.000 Okay.
00:40:36.000 Time for a quick, a couple of quick things that I hate, and then I will explain to you what legal incitement is.
00:40:40.000 No, this doesn't count as legal incitement.
00:40:41.000 This counts as me laughing at a guy getting knocked in the crotch for kicking gas canisters at the cops.
00:40:46.000 Okay, so.
00:40:47.000 Time for some things I hate.
00:40:53.000 Okay, so the first thing is the CEO of an organization called CloudFare.
00:40:58.000 CloudFare is a hosting organization, and the CEO banned the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer.
00:41:05.000 Suffice it to say, I am not particularly hot on the Daily Stormer.
00:41:09.000 I think that Nazis are evil.
00:41:11.000 You see this thing on the top of my head?
00:41:12.000 It means that they would have murdered me, right?
00:41:14.000 So I'm not big on neo-Nazis.
00:41:15.000 I'm not big on Nazis.
00:41:17.000 But I'm also not big on Matthew Prince, who's the CEO of Cloudflare.
00:41:20.000 So he discussed the web hosting company's decision to remove Daily Stormer from their servers, and here was his explanation.
00:41:28.000 I found the Daily Stormer repugnant.
00:41:32.000 I am not shedding a tear that that content isn't online anymore.
00:41:37.000 But one of my fellow employees came up to me the day that we took it offline and said, hey, is this the day the internet dies?
00:41:46.000 There was no due process.
00:41:47.000 OK, and then he went on to say that he said, I am deeply concerned I had the authority and the power to wake up one morning and say I'm done.
00:41:54.000 I'm sick of this, so screw them.
00:41:55.000 They're off the internet.
00:41:56.000 But he did it anyway.
00:41:57.000 And this is the problem.
00:41:58.000 If you recognize
00:41:59.000 That your goal here, in a service like CloudFare, which is not an ideological service, and you didn't have any preconditions as to what could be posted, obviously.
00:42:07.000 I assume they still host a bunch of bad sites, things that most people would consider bad.
00:42:11.000 If you are essentially posing yourself as an open server and then you're banning people, it's not illegal.
00:42:16.000 It's a private company.
00:42:17.000 But it definitely verges on the nasty to violate your own prescriptions on free speech because
00:42:24.000 What's to prevent him from knocking Daily Wire off his servers if he doesn't like the material that we're posting?
00:42:28.000 These standards are malleable.
00:42:30.000 I wish they weren't.
00:42:31.000 I wish they weren't.
00:42:31.000 I think there are things like Daily Stormer that virtually everyone agrees are garbage, but opinions change, right?
00:42:37.000 I mean, the fact is that now, if you are anti-same-sex marriage, you are considered so bad that they're going to get rid of you at Mozilla, right?
00:42:44.000 So where does the standard actually take place?
00:42:46.000 I think this is dangerous, dangerous thinking.
00:42:47.000 Okay, so I want to get right to the big idea because I think it's actually important to discuss this.
00:42:50.000 So the big idea
00:42:52.000 Today we're going to discuss incitement.
00:42:53.000 You've heard the phrase, shouting fire in a crowded theater.
00:42:56.000 This is what people use as an excuse to shut down free speech.
00:42:58.000 Oh, the government should be able to shut you up, because it's just like shouting fire in a crowded theater.
00:43:03.000 No, the point of shouting fire in a crowded theater is that you are, number one, saying something that is untrue, because if there actually is a fire, then you have to shout fire in a crowded theater.
00:43:12.000 But number two, if you shout fire in a crowded theater, not only does it have to be untrue, it also has to present actual danger.
00:43:17.000 The problem with doing it in a crowded theater
00:43:20.000 is that presumably people will trample each other to get out based on a lie.
00:43:23.000 That was the point of the language.
00:43:24.000 It comes from a case called Schenck v. United States.
00:43:26.000 There's a long history in the country of censorship, and then over time, censorship has actually gotten less stringent, not more stringent, in the United States.
00:43:34.000 In this case from 1919, the court ruled that censorship under the 1917 Espionage Act under Woodrow Wilson, Democrat, was okay for a pamphlet from socialists claiming that the draft was a form of slavery.
00:43:45.000 They suggested that the language created a clear and present danger of bringing about lawbreaking.
00:43:49.000 And so Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote, the question in every case is whether the words used are in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger.
00:43:57.000 So this created what they call the clear and present danger standard for what was not protected by the First Amendment.
00:44:03.000 They create a clear and present danger.
00:44:04.000 In 1923, there's another case called Gitlo versus New York.
00:44:07.000 When the court held,
00:44:09.000 that using a criminal anarchy statute to prosecute people advocating for the overthrow of the U.S.
00:44:13.000 government was fine.
00:44:14.000 The court said, it does not restrain the advocacy of changes in the form of government by constitutional and lawful means.
00:44:20.000 What it prohibits is language advocating, advising, or teaching the overthrow of government by unlawful means.
00:44:26.000 These words imply urging to action.
00:44:28.000 Oliver Wendell Holmes, the guy who wrote the Fire in a Crowded Theater line, he voted against this.
00:44:32.000 He said that did not create a clear and present danger.
00:44:35.000 Where this really was rebutted, where this entire line of argument was really rebutted, so when people say, fire in a crowded theater, it really doesn't apply anymore, that's because of a 1969 case called Brandenburg v. Ohio.
00:44:45.000 Brandenburg v. Ohio was a case in which the Supreme Court held that speech tending to promote lawlessness or advocating illegal activity cannot be restrained by criminal laws unless the speech, quote, is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.
00:45:03.000 So that's a two-pronged test, right?
00:45:05.000 One, that my design is to produce in you some sort of violence action.
00:45:09.000 I say, Cassie, go shoot Mathis.
00:45:11.000 And that it has to be likely to actually produce that, right?
00:45:14.000 It's likely to incite or produce such action.
00:45:17.000 So I have to make a strong case for why she should shoot Mathis, like he's doing a crappy job today, right?
00:45:21.000 If I do that, then maybe it's illegal.
00:45:23.000 But in this particular case, the court found that a KKK rally, where somebody talked about revenge against the president and Congress, if they continued their scheme of supposedly oppressing whites, they said that is not incitement under the law.
00:45:34.000 So that's not incitement under the law.
00:45:36.000 Nothing that you saw today, nothing from Trump, nothing from Bernie Sanders, nothing that has been said on this program, none of it's incitement.
00:45:42.000 So next time somebody says fire in a crowded theater, suggest to them they don't know their law.
00:45:46.000 The governing standard is imminent lawless threat, okay?
00:45:49.000 The governing standard is imminent lawless action likely to incite.
00:45:52.000 That's the standard under Brandenburg v. Ohio.
00:45:54.000 That's the legal standard.
00:45:56.000 The left likes to cite the Supreme Court.
00:45:57.000 Okay, you can cite that case back to them, because that is the governing standard, not the old, clear, and present-danger standard that has largely been changed by Brandenburg.
00:46:04.000 Okay, so we'll be back here tomorrow, and tomorrow, thank God, is a Friday.
00:46:07.000 We're getting close to the end of the week, folks, so be here tomorrow.
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00:46:12.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
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