The Ben Shapiro Show - How To Destroy America In Three Easy Steps | Ep. 1056

00:00:00.000 New polling shows how successful disintegrationists have become in American thinking.

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00:00:26.000 A little bit later on in the program, we're going to get to all of the coronavirus related issues that are cropping up around the country.

00:00:32.000 What is the proper strategy?

00:00:33.000 Why is it that people keep claiming they have the strategy to stop this thing and then they actually don't present a strategy to stop the thing?

00:00:39.000 We'll get to all of that.

00:00:40.000 It's actually possible that we've actually seen the peak already in some places like Arizona and Texas, which would be Great news.

00:00:46.000 So we'll get to all of that.

00:00:47.000 But first, gotta remind you, today is the day.

00:00:50.000 Finally, the long-awaited book that I've been talking about for months at this point, How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps, it's now available.

00:00:55.000 You can go over to Amazon.com or anywhere else books are sold and pick it up right now.

00:01:00.000 I could not think of a time when it would be more relevant.

00:01:02.000 It is extraordinarily relevant.

00:01:04.000 The reason it is so relevant should be obvious from a brand new poll.

00:01:07.000 It is out today from the Wall Street Journal.

00:01:09.000 It is a devastating poll for the country.

00:01:10.000 A devastating poll for the country.

00:01:12.000 Because what it really says is that Americans don't believe that we share much anymore.

00:01:16.000 The only thing that we share, apparently, is a desire to virtue signal the pollsters.

00:01:20.000 But when it comes to what we actually share as a country, the answer is not much.

00:01:24.000 So the premise of my book, as I've talked about before, That there are essentially two visions of American society.

00:01:29.000 One vision of American society is the Unionist vision.

00:01:32.000 This is a vision that suggests that in order for a nation to survive, you have to have a common philosophy, culture, and history.

00:01:39.000 The common American philosophy is expressed beautifully in the Declaration of Independence, that we are endowed by nature and nature's God with certain inalienable rights, that government is instituted to protect those rights, and that violation of those rights makes the government lose its reason for being.

00:01:53.000 That we are all endowed with reason, we are all equal before the law.

00:01:56.000 These are the ideas of the Declaration of Independence, and we cherish them, and we hold them dear.

00:02:00.000 That our natural rights are what we call negative rights, rights against other people.

00:02:03.000 They are not positive rights, meaning entitlements from other people, entitlements from government.

00:02:07.000 These were the principles of the Declaration of Independence.

00:02:10.000 And those principles are good.

00:02:12.000 Those principles have brought about the flowering of American freedom.

00:02:15.000 They've brought about the insane levels of prosperity that not only Americans enjoy, but the rest of the world enjoys as well.

00:02:21.000 Those principles have brought about the end of Nazism and communism. 0.61

00:02:25.000 Those principles Those principles were instrumental, were the key principles in overthrowing the dominance of racism and white supremacy in American life.

00:02:34.000 That is the common American philosophy.

00:02:36.000 Then there's the common American culture.

00:02:37.000 American culture was built on a series of beliefs about the way the world works and a series of attitudes toward the world.

00:02:44.000 And those attitudes include things like a feeling of entrepreneurship and adventure.

00:02:48.000 The spirit of Americanism was the spirit of adventure.

00:02:50.000 When you read de Tocqueville, he's constantly talking about Where America can be found, and what he says is America can essentially be found on the frontier.

00:02:56.000 That when you look at the nature of Americans, they are constantly striving, they are constantly building, they are constantly moving, and they are constantly seeking.

00:03:03.000 The spirit of adventure and entrepreneurship is what characterizes Americans, as opposed to de Tocqueville's picture of Europeans, which was much more sedentary.

00:03:11.000 Americans were constantly on the move, constantly on the go, embracing the journey, embracing the adventure, not Asking for anything, but being granted the freedom to do with their lives what they would do.

00:03:21.000 It was a spirit of adventure.

00:03:23.000 Also, there was a culture of tolerance for other people's rights and understanding that rights mean that other people may not use their rights in ways that you like.

00:03:29.000 So the right to free speech isn't just your right to speak as you see fit.

00:03:32.000 It relies on a cultural underpinning that you understand that other people may not agree with you and they have a right to free speech too.

00:03:39.000 Freedom of association means not only that you have a right to associate freely, but that others may choose not to associate with you based on their right to associate freely.

00:03:46.000 You have to have tolerance for other people's rights.

00:03:48.000 That is a culture of rights.

00:03:50.000 Also, the culture of the United States was built on the value of social institutions, that rights were going to be balanced by duties, that every right came with a consonant duty, that a free country relied, as John Adams suggested, on a moral and religious people, and that you required social institutions to undergird that.

00:04:05.000 You required things like churches, you required things like schools, you required social and communal institutions that were designed to inculcate virtues so that when people did exercise their rights, they were not harming one another.

00:04:16.000 And finally, the culture of the United States relied on a militant defense of those rights.

00:04:20.000 A belief that if others were to threaten those rights, that you would stand up for yourself.

00:04:24.000 This is where the right to keep and bear arms comes from.

00:04:26.000 This militant belief that your rights are worthy of defense.

00:04:29.000 So that was the American philosophy and the American culture.

00:04:31.000 And then there was a picture of American history.

00:04:32.000 And that picture of American history...

00:04:34.000 Was that America struggles to live up to its founding ideals and is gradually moving toward the fulfillment of those founding ideals.

00:04:41.000 The story of America is a nation founded not in 1619 because slavery was a human universal.

00:04:46.000 It's an evil human universal. 1.00

00:04:48.000 And to mention that does not alleviate in any way America's responsibility for the sin of American slavery.

00:04:53.000 It is to put that sin into the context of all human sin.

00:04:57.000 Okay, which is where all sin belongs, right?

00:04:59.000 All sin belongs in the context of all human sin, because to myopically focus on the sin of America at the expense of all of human history and all over the world is to miss the point, which is that human beings are innately sinful and do terrible things to one another, and that the goal of freedom and virtue is to move human beings beyond that.

00:05:17.000 And that's the story of America, is the fight against human nature by instituting checks and balances, by fighting for liberty, The story of America on a racial level is the caching of the promissory note that was written in 1776, not the story of the continuation of 1619.

00:05:34.000 Any attempt to link American life in 2020 to 1619 is going to be very difficult on a practical level.

00:05:39.000 It is much easier To link American life in 2020 to 1776, because frankly, America was not founded in 1619.

00:05:44.000 It was founded in 1776.

00:05:45.000 And the story of America is the gradual fulfillment of those promises.

00:05:48.000 That's the Unionist vision.

00:05:49.000 The things that unify us are our philosophy, they're our culture, and they're our history, right?

00:05:53.000 Those are things that have to unify any nation that hopes to be cohesive in any sense or fashion.

00:05:59.000 And then there's the disintegrationist vision.

00:06:00.000 The disintegrationist vision wants to tear down the entire system. 0.72

00:06:03.000 And so they castigate the system as racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic.

00:06:07.000 They don't castigate particular Americans as that because those Americans, that's perfectly obvious. 0.99

00:06:10.000 There are Americans who are racists and sexists and bigots and homophobes. 0.99

00:06:14.000 They do exist.

00:06:15.000 But the system itself, the system that was created by the Declaration of Independence and then preserved by the Constitution of the United States with its amendments over time, That system is not racist.

00:06:26.000 That system is not sexist.

00:06:27.000 That system is not homophobic.

00:06:28.000 That system is not brutal and vicious.

00:06:30.000 That system is a system of freedom.

00:06:31.000 But disintegrationists suggest that that system is indeed an attempt to re-establish and re-inculcate hierarchies of power.

00:06:39.000 So disintegrationists say about American philosophy that it's just dead wrong.

00:06:42.000 There are no rights that pre-exist government.

00:06:43.000 Government is the source of your rights.

00:06:45.000 Government is the source of your privileges.

00:06:46.000 And government is the source of your entitlements.

00:06:48.000 Rights themselves are not rights you have against other people.

00:06:51.000 Rights instead Are things that you get from the government.

00:06:53.000 You have a right to social security, you have a right to housing, you have a right to healthcare.

00:06:56.000 Now, the founders would have thought this was bizarre because obviously all of those quote-unquote rights require something from other people.

00:07:03.000 As opposed to the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, or the right to life, liberty, and property, that doesn't require anything of anybody.

00:07:08.000 If I have a right to life, that just means you're not allowed to kill me.

00:07:11.000 If I have a right to housing, that means you now have an obligation to build me a house.

00:07:14.000 That is a very different thing.

00:07:15.000 Philosophers have termed this difference negative rights versus positive rights.

00:07:18.000 So disintegrationists say, they're positive rights, which means, essentially, I can use the government to point a gun at you and steal your stuff.

00:07:24.000 That's the nature of positive rights.

00:07:27.000 The disintegrationists believe that all men are not equal before the law.

00:07:30.000 There's no such thing as equal rights before the law, because equal rights are a lie.

00:07:34.000 Because if we were to just apply the law evenly between individuals, well, that might end with group injustice.

00:07:41.000 Because what if one group commits more crimes than another group?

00:07:44.000 Well, then that means the group is being treated unjustly.

00:07:46.000 This is why you see the disintegrationists left very often citing criminal justice disparity statistics in order to suggest that America's system is innately broken, without reference to the nature of the crimes that are being committed by individuals.

00:07:58.000 And so people on the right will say, you have to name the people who are innocent who are in jail, who shouldn't be in jail, and I'm fine with it.

00:08:04.000 People on the left will say it doesn't matter if they're innocent.

00:08:06.000 They could be guilty and in jail.

00:08:07.000 The system created the disparity.

00:08:09.000 Therefore, the system is guilty of the disparity.

00:08:12.000 So, the only rectification for that is that the law does not treat people equally.

00:08:15.000 The law treats people differently based on race or victim status of the group to which they belong in the United States.

00:08:22.000 The disintegrationists have said that the American philosophy of limited government is wrong.

00:08:26.000 The only path toward utopia is a non-limited government.

00:08:29.000 No checks and balances.

00:08:30.000 No federalism.

00:08:31.000 Top-down cram-downs that will change human nature.

00:08:34.000 Because the philosophy of the United States, the unionist philosophy of the United States, relies Not a simple idea.

00:08:40.000 Human beings are not angels.

00:08:42.000 They're not devils.

00:08:42.000 They're human beings.

00:08:43.000 They're capable of sin.

00:08:44.000 They're capable of great good.

00:08:45.000 This is why you need checks and balances.

00:08:46.000 This is expressed best in James Madison's Federalist No.

00:08:49.000 51.

00:08:50.000 But disintegrationists don't believe that.

00:08:51.000 They believe that human beings, this is what John Dewey said, Woodrow Wilson, many of the early 20th century progressives, they said that human beings are innately malleable.

00:08:58.000 And the reason that human beings are flawed is because they live in a capitalist system shaped by things like the Declaration of Independence.

00:09:03.000 Get rid of that system, put in a more just and equitable economic system, and human beings will change.

00:09:09.000 They will change.

00:09:09.000 They'll become better.

00:09:10.000 This is the promise of Karl Marx.

00:09:11.000 It was expressed by progressives in the early 20th century.

00:09:14.000 And that has never waned.

00:09:15.000 This belief that all disparities in the system can be cured if you just get rid of the system.

00:09:20.000 So American philosophy must be dissolved.

00:09:22.000 American culture has to be fought according to the disintegrationists. 0.81

00:09:25.000 A spirit of entrepreneurship is actually a spirit of exploitation.

00:09:28.000 Entrepreneurs, adventurers, those who wander forth and sally forth into the wilds of life and try to conquer and build, those people are exploiters.

00:09:37.000 The best people are the people who rely on the government to give them things.

00:09:41.000 The best people are the people who demand things from others because they create social justice.

00:09:45.000 Your demand is your heroism.

00:09:47.000 The fact that you want a thing is what grants you heroism because you are trying to establish a more equitable society.

00:09:52.000 If you go and you build for yourself, that means that you are reliant on somebody else to build for you, which means you're an exploiter.

00:09:57.000 If, however, you demand something from somebody else, you are just demanding that the system be more just, and you are a hero, according to the disintegrationists.

00:10:04.000 The spirit of tolerance for others' rights is bad, according to disintegrationists.

00:10:07.000 Because according to disintegrationists, if you tolerate other people's rights, well, what if they're bad? 0.99

00:10:11.000 What about the jerk who's not going to let a black person go to his business? 1.00

00:10:15.000 We have to quash his rights. 1.00

00:10:17.000 Because nobody should have a right to do something that's wrong. 1.00

00:10:19.000 Well, listen, I can think that guy's just as much of a jerk as a disintegrationist does. 0.99

00:10:23.000 But rights exist. 0.99

00:10:25.000 And can be used by bad people in the wrong ways.

00:10:28.000 Which is why you need social institutions that inculcate virtue.

00:10:31.000 But disintegrationists fight those social institutions.

00:10:33.000 Because they believe that social institutions are a barrier against government dominance.

00:10:37.000 So church is dangerous because a church might teach something that disintegrationists don't like.

00:10:43.000 The family structure is an enemy.

00:10:44.000 That's why Black Lives Matter, the organization, suggests family structure must be torn down because the family is the smallest minority other than the individual.

00:10:52.000 Families might teach stuff that the majority doesn't like.

00:10:54.000 Families might teach stuff the government doesn't want.

00:10:56.000 And so family has to be broken down.

00:10:59.000 And finally, a culture that understands not only tolerance for other people's rights, but also fights on behalf of those rights.

00:11:06.000 That's something disintegrationists don't like either.

00:11:09.000 Because if you fight on behalf of those rights, then you're standing up to a dominant government.

00:11:12.000 And the only thing that can establish equity in our time is a dominant government.

00:11:16.000 And then finally, American history.

00:11:17.000 Disintegrationists say about American history that American history is 1619.

00:11:21.000 American history is the story of Columbus brutalizing the Arawaks. 0.98

00:11:25.000 It is not the story of Western civilization's growth in the Western Hemisphere and how that has bettered the world.

00:11:31.000 The story of Western society is a story of exploitation.

00:11:34.000 It's the Howard Zinn story about how everything was a Rousseauian, beautiful, natural, savage wilderness out in the Western Hemisphere until the evil West got here with their exploitative ways.

00:11:42.000 Human sin did not exist until the West arrived on these shores.

00:11:46.000 That Western civilization is a cruel, exploitative place, unlike any other civilization, right?

00:11:51.000 Uniquely exploitative, uniquely evil.

00:11:54.000 That narrative has taken a foothold.

00:11:55.000 So that is the battle.

00:11:57.000 And the problem is, if the disintegrationists win, what exactly holds us together?

00:12:01.000 We don't share a philosophy, right?

00:12:02.000 Basically, the philosophy of disintegrationists suggests that whoever holds the majority should be able to club the minority over the head.

00:12:08.000 The only reason, by the way, that disintegrationists believe this these days is because they believe they're in the ascendancy.

00:12:14.000 The thing about disintegrationists when it comes to governmental structures is they have no consistent take on governmental structures.

00:12:20.000 Whatever is convenient is what they will push.

00:12:21.000 So sometimes that means that they are in favor of states standing up to the federal government.

00:12:26.000 So they're in favor of sanctuary cities because they don't want the federal government cramming down its view of immigration on the states.

00:12:31.000 And sometimes it means they want the federal government to completely run roughshod over states like the same-sex marriage.

00:12:36.000 Disintegrationists have no consistent philosophy of government. 1.00

00:12:39.000 The philosophy of unionism says that government is supposed to be both federalist, meaning that power devolves to the lowest level, and also there's supposed to be checks and balances at every level to prevent too much accretion of power and to prevent people's rights from being overridden.

00:12:52.000 There's no consistent philosophy of government from the disintegrationists.

00:12:55.000 The philosophy of government is just whatever gets the job done.

00:12:57.000 Whatever moves us closer to utopia.

00:12:59.000 And that means ultimate government power.

00:13:01.000 The goal is ultimate government power.

00:13:04.000 So this all has very significant ramifications for the United States and the future of the United States because disintegrationists are basically claiming that their vision of America, in which we share very little.

00:13:14.000 We don't share a history.

00:13:15.000 History is just a series of clubbings over the head. 0.67

00:13:18.000 We don't share a culture because we don't believe that you should have rights if you think the wrong things.

00:13:22.000 This is where cancel culture comes in.

00:13:23.000 That if you think the wrong things, we should go after your livelihood, we should go after your family, we should expose the places where you live, we should dox you, we should make sure that if we can, we'll use the power of government against you.

00:13:33.000 Disintegrationists believe that checks and balances should go away and that you don't have any individual rights, that all rights spring from the government and you can be treated differentially based on whether you are part of a historically marginalized group or a chosen historically marginalized group or not.

00:13:46.000 That's the disintegrationist philosophy, and it will end with tyranny, because that is the only way this can end.

00:13:52.000 When you get rid of all the checks and balances, what you end up is with tyranny of the mob, which is essentially what many people have called for, getting rid of the United States Senate, getting rid of the Electoral College, packing the courts.

00:14:05.000 Getting rid of the federalist system, tyranny of the majority, tyranny of the mob, which is something that the founding fathers worried deeply about.

00:14:11.000 Or alternatively, just tyranny of a bureaucracy, tyranny of a cultural bureaucracy, of cultural elites who know better than you.

00:14:19.000 Which means we can't live together.

00:14:20.000 Because here's the thing, if you want California and Texas to live together, they gotta leave each other alone.

00:14:24.000 That is the only way this works.

00:14:25.000 If you want me to share a country with Bernie, then we gotta understand that there are certain parts of our lives that are inviolable.

00:14:33.000 We have certain rights that are inalienable.

00:14:34.000 If you don't believe that, we can't live in the same country.

00:14:36.000 Because then it's just a question of who's got the government gun, which is exactly what disintegrationists want.

00:14:41.000 So how does this matter?

00:14:42.000 So in a second, I'm gonna get to a poll showing that disintegrationists are winning.

00:14:45.000 That their view of America as racist, as bigoted, as cruel, their view of America's systems as innately bigoted, it's taken an extraordinary foothold in American public life.

00:14:56.000 And if this continues, there will not be an America left to stand up for.

00:14:59.000 It just will not exist.

00:15:00.000 It'll be a different thing.

00:15:01.000 We're gonna get to that in just one second.

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00:16:13.000 Okay, so this brings us to a Wall Street Journal poll that is out this morning.

00:16:17.000 Do I believe that every aspect of this poll is reflective of permanent changes in American thinking?

00:16:21.000 I do not.

00:16:21.000 I think that very often, polling follows extraordinary amounts of media coverage.

00:16:25.000 So, in the aftermath of the George Floyd protests, when pollsters were calling up Americans and saying, what do you think of these protests?

00:16:31.000 Do you like them or do you not like them?

00:16:32.000 Hmm?

00:16:33.000 I think a lot of Americans were like, I like them.

00:16:36.000 I do.

00:16:36.000 I like them.

00:16:38.000 And let's be real.

00:16:39.000 The original protests?

00:16:40.000 There wasn't a lot to dislike, per se.

00:16:42.000 Nobody's in favor of police brutality.

00:16:43.000 I said this at the time.

00:16:45.000 I didn't oppose protests against police brutality.

00:16:47.000 What I opposed was the attempt to conflate questions of police brutality with the idea that there's endemic American racism that can only be removed by a top-down government or a bottom-up movement.

00:16:57.000 I don't think that's the case.

00:16:58.000 I don't think police officers are endemically racist.

00:17:00.000 I don't think the American system is endemically racist.

00:17:02.000 I don't think the vast majority of Americans are racist or tolerate racism. 0.99

00:17:06.000 And most of all, I do not think that in order to be quote-unquote anti-racist, I have to stand for tearing down the system, which is the case being made by Robin DiAngelo and Ibram Kendi, which is an ugly, wrong, neo-Marxist, stupid case. 0.99

00:17:18.000 It doesn't make sense. 0.95

00:17:20.000 And not only does it not make sense, it is innately racist in and of itself because it assumes that we have to treat each other as members of groups rather than individuals.

00:17:27.000 I mean, Robin DiAngelo herself says that it is racist to treat people as individuals.

00:17:32.000 She says this in White Fragility. 0.84

00:17:33.000 It's nuts.

00:17:34.000 Okay, it's just absolutely crazy.

00:17:37.000 But unfortunately, because of the way the media have treated this entire situation, and because the media have attempted, frankly, to polarize the conversation around President Trump, and they've attempted to make Trump the font head of America.

00:17:49.000 The goal here is to make Americans feel bad about America and then say, if you want to feel better about America, all you got to do is get rid of Trump, put Joe Biden in there and you'll feel better about America.

00:17:58.000 And I will say that Joe Biden is playing a smart hand here, because what Joe Biden is doing is he's basically playing dead in the basement and he's avoiding the big mistakes.

00:18:04.000 When he's asked about statues, for example, he'll say, yeah, we should probably move the Confederate statues, but we should leave up Columbus and Washington and Jefferson.

00:18:12.000 His radical left flank is screaming at him.

00:18:14.000 No, no, no, you got to get rid of all of those things.

00:18:15.000 And frankly, I don't think that Joe Biden would be a bulwark against his radical left flank once in office.

00:18:20.000 He himself has said he would be a transitional figure, but he's playing it smart.

00:18:24.000 So the implicit promise of the media is we are going to militate against American unity from now until the election.

00:18:30.000 If you elect Joe Biden, then we'll shut up for like five seconds.

00:18:33.000 Then, of course, it'll restart again.

00:18:34.000 Remember, the Ferguson riots happened under Barack Obama, but What this polling data shows is that Americans are more and more warm to a lot of the disintegrationist viewpoints, which is really dangerous because once you have a majority of Americans who don't believe in fundamental American notions of rights, don't believe in that philosophy, don't believe in that culture, don't believe in that history, what exactly is supposed to hold us together other than rage at the system?

00:18:56.000 And what happens after the rage at the system is vented?

00:18:58.000 Because it turns out that there are pretty wildly differing points of view on what should happen once you tear down the house.

00:19:04.000 Once you tear down the house, then it's just a question of who's in charge.

00:19:07.000 And revolutionaries very rarely have an idea as to what to do after the revolution is over.

00:19:12.000 The French revolutionaries were pretty sure what they wanted to tear down.

00:19:15.000 Some of what they wanted to tear down was good.

00:19:17.000 Some of what they wanted to tear down was bad.

00:19:19.000 It took an awful lot of blood.

00:19:20.000 They tore it down.

00:19:21.000 And in its place, they established a tyrannical directorate, which was eventually replaced by an actual dictator, which was eventually replaced by a restoration of the monarchy.

00:19:29.000 So that worked out poorly.

00:19:30.000 The Russian Revolution was pretty much sure what it wanted to tear down, right? 0.91

00:19:34.000 There were whites and reds, and they both wanted to tear down the tsarist system. 0.97

00:19:38.000 And then what replaced it?

00:19:39.000 A significantly worse communist tyranny that lasted for nearly all of the 20th century and resulted in the slaughter of literally tens of millions of people, maybe up to 100 million people in the USSR alone.

00:19:49.000 Depends on your calculation.

00:19:51.000 And so, revolutionaries very rarely know what they want to do after the revolution.

00:19:54.000 This is what makes the American Revolution different.

00:19:55.000 Is that after the American Revolution, because it was based on English common law and notions of philosophy and enlightenment ideas from John Locke and such, there was a creedal attempt to build something in the aftermath of breaking away from Great Britain.

00:20:08.000 The revolution was really a separation.

00:20:10.000 I mean, the Declaration talks about this.

00:20:13.000 It was less a revolution than a separation impelled by a gap in thinking.

00:20:18.000 I don't think that's what's going to happen in the United States if our unity dissolves in the face of disintegrationism.

00:20:23.000 It's not like people know what's coming after.

00:20:25.000 It's just perpetual revolution from here on in.

00:20:27.000 Because that's essentially what progressives have wanted forever, is this perpetual revolution, which is why you see the woke eating their own, right?

00:20:33.000 You see the woke going after the more woke, or the less woke.

00:20:36.000 Okay, so what does this poll actually show?

00:20:37.000 The numbers are pretty devastating.

00:20:39.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, voters in growing numbers believe that black and Hispanic Americans are discriminated against.

00:20:44.000 A majority of 56% holds the view that American society is racist.

00:20:49.000 A new Wall Street Journal NBC News poll finds.

00:20:52.000 So that is an incredibly vague question.

00:20:53.000 Is American society racist?

00:20:55.000 What do you mean by that?

00:20:56.000 Do you mean are there racists in American society?

00:20:58.000 Of course. 0.99

00:20:58.000 You'd be a fool not to say there are racists in American society. 0.99

00:21:01.000 Of course. 0.99

00:21:02.000 What percentage of American society is racist?

00:21:04.000 An extraordinary low percentage by every available metric.

00:21:07.000 By actual data.

00:21:08.000 Very, very low percentage.

00:21:10.000 There have been studies that have been done on where America stands in the world in terms of racial treatment.

00:21:15.000 What it finds is America is one of the least racist countries on earth.

00:21:17.000 It's like America, Canada, and the UK.

00:21:19.000 Those are the least racist countries on earth.

00:21:21.000 By polling data reported by the Washington Post back in 2013, America is not a racist society.

00:21:27.000 It is not.

00:21:28.000 And I know it's become cliche to say this, but racist societies do not elect a black president twice in overwhelming fashion.

00:21:33.000 That is not what racist societies do.

00:21:35.000 You know how I know that?

00:21:36.000 Because America was a deeply racist society.

00:21:38.000 Can you imagine America electing a black president in 1960? 0.90

00:21:41.000 Of course you cannot.

00:21:42.000 Of course you cannot.

00:21:44.000 Not only electing a black president, electing him with an extraordinary margin over a historic war hero the first time, and over a popular Republican Massachusetts governor the second time.

00:21:55.000 This is an extraordinary country.

00:21:57.000 It's an extraordinary country.

00:21:59.000 And it's an extraordinary society.

00:22:01.000 And I don't know how many Americans can really look at their neighbors and say, my neighbors are racist.

00:22:04.000 The society is racist.

00:22:06.000 So if you believe, if a majority of Americans believe the society is racist, how much of that is really believing the society is racist?

00:22:11.000 And how much of that is just wishing to dissociate from the society so you can claim moral superiority in the modeling of Shelby Steele?

00:22:20.000 I think a lot is the latter, but it doesn't really matter because that number is devastating.

00:22:24.000 If a majority of Americans believe American society is racist, the question becomes, okay, what's the corrective?

00:22:29.000 Because when people like me say, okay, show me the racist incident or the person who's doing a racist thing and I'll fight it with you, then people say, well, no, you can't ask me for specifics because the society is racist.

00:22:38.000 The very vagary of the statement tears at the system, which of course is the goal.

00:22:42.000 And as we'll see, when polled about whether the American system is endemically racist, large numbers of Americans think yes, which is disastrous.

00:22:49.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:24:05.000 The poll finds that Americans of all races and age groups share significant concerns about discrimination nearly two months after George Floyd, a black man, was killed in police custody in Minneapolis.

00:24:14.000 This is the Wall Street Journal reporting.

00:24:15.000 Nearly three-quarters of Americans, 71%, believe that race relations are either very or fairly bad, a 16-point increase since February.

00:24:22.000 That's not a great shot considering we've had actual race riots across the United States egged on by the white, woke left. 0.85

00:24:28.000 I mean, when you see entire major American cities shut down for a week while people riot in the streets, you might think, oh yeah, race relations are getting worse.

00:24:35.000 By the way, one of the things that is important to note, race relations in every poll have been getting consistently worse since Barack Obama was elected.

00:24:42.000 Why?

00:24:42.000 Well, because there was an optimism when Obama was elected that we were going to move into the post-racial era that MLK had once dreamed of, when people would judge each other on the basis of their individuality rather than the color of their skin.

00:24:53.000 Then we were told that we can't do that.

00:24:55.000 That if you say that I judge you as an individual and not based on the color of your skin, that is in and of itself racist because you are failing to recognize the most important factor about someone, which is their race.

00:25:05.000 Race relations have been getting steadily worse.

00:25:06.000 It didn't start with Trump.

00:25:07.000 The media have said that it's about Trump.

00:25:09.000 Wrong.

00:25:10.000 Go back and look at the polling.

00:25:11.000 The question of positivity or negativity about race relations, it's been getting worse every year since Barack Obama was elected.

00:25:17.000 The height of optimism was literally the week Obama was elected.

00:25:20.000 And then, it's been going down ever since.

00:25:23.000 In other signs of substantial shifts in views on race, more voters see racial bias as a feature of American society and support protests aimed at addressing it.

00:25:31.000 Nearly 60% in the survey said that black people face discrimination.

00:25:34.000 Just over half said so of Hispanics, about double the shares from 2008.

00:25:38.000 Now, the thing about poll questions is you have to kind of determine what exactly are people perceiving when the question is asked.

00:25:44.000 Example.

00:25:45.000 So if the question was, do black people face discrimination? 0.79

00:25:48.000 The answer is obviously yes, because there are racists in American society. 0.52

00:25:53.000 So sure.

00:25:53.000 I mean, of course.

00:25:54.000 If the question is, does American society discriminate against black people?

00:25:59.000 Broadly speaking, the answer is no.

00:26:00.000 If the question is, do America's legal institutions discriminate against black people?

00:26:04.000 The answer is pretty obviously no.

00:26:07.000 In fact, the only legal programs based on race are created to benefit people who are black, right? 0.95

00:26:13.000 Questions like affirmative action.

00:26:15.000 Support has also grown for two of the public responses to concerns about inequality, the Black Lives Matter movement, and professional athletes' practice of kneeling during the national anthem.

00:26:23.000 So, in terms of views on racism, percentage who agree that American society is racist, according to this poll, 46% of men agree.

00:26:31.000 66% of women agree.

00:26:33.000 And these are the women who have been cudgeled into thinking so by the Washington Post so they can write puff pieces about how you're confronting your own racism.

00:26:40.000 51% of white Americans say that American society is racist.

00:26:43.000 Which, by the way, is pretty incredible, right?

00:26:44.000 Half of white Americans say American society is racist.

00:26:46.000 So who are the other, like, so who are the racists?

00:26:48.000 The people who don't say that American society is racist?

00:26:52.000 78% of black Americans say American society is racist.

00:26:55.000 60% of Hispanics say American society is racist.

00:26:57.000 Now here is the really interesting stat.

00:26:59.000 Okay, ready?

00:27:00.000 82% of Democrats, 82%, say American society is racist.

00:27:06.000 45% of Independents say it's racist.

00:27:08.000 30% of Republicans say it's racist.

00:27:10.000 So in other words, the disproportion here is not between Democrats and Republicans.

00:27:14.000 It's between Democrats and everybody else.

00:27:15.000 Democrats are up at 82% say American society is racist.

00:27:20.000 Independents and Republicans below 50.

00:27:22.000 If you are aged 18 to 34, 65% believe American society is racist.

00:27:27.000 If you're above the age of 65, only 53% believe that American society is racist.

00:27:33.000 So in other words, we have inculcated in young people the least discriminated against people in the history of the world in America.

00:27:39.000 If you're 18 years old in America, you don't remember Jim Crow?

00:27:43.000 Your parents may not remember Jim Crow?

00:27:46.000 If you're 18 years old, that means that you were born after the year 2000.

00:27:49.000 The idea that you have experienced vast discrimination in America between the years 2000 and 2020 is generally absurd.

00:27:57.000 That doesn't mean you haven't experienced racism.

00:28:00.000 I'm a Jew.

00:28:00.000 I've experienced anti-Semitism.

00:28:01.000 In fact, I've experienced a fair bit of it in the last few years.

00:28:03.000 You know what?

00:28:04.000 That doesn't mean that American society is endemically anti-Semitic.

00:28:06.000 It isn't.

00:28:08.000 Americans... Noting that there are anti-Semites does not mean that American society is anti-Semitic, because it is not.

00:28:14.000 Noting that black people experience racism in their lives is not the same as noting that American society is generally racist.

00:28:20.000 Not the same thing.

00:28:21.000 The conflation of those two things is incredibly dangerous.

00:28:24.000 Because what do you mean when you say American society is racist?

00:28:26.000 You mean its structures and its institutions.

00:28:28.000 Namely, you mean its philosophy and its culture and its history.

00:28:31.000 All the things that tie the nation together, if you call those racist, you're disintegrating them.

00:28:35.000 In its steepest look at race in America in two decades, the journal NBC News Poll shows members of the two parties hold sharply different opinions about the extent of racial discrimination.

00:28:43.000 An overwhelming majority of Democrats, 90%, say Black people are discriminated against, whereas 26% of Americans agreed. 0.99

00:28:49.000 Again, these questions are vaguely worded, and they allow a lot of wiggle room.

00:28:53.000 If you say, do Americans' legal systems discriminate against Black Americans?

00:28:58.000 That'd be a much more specific question.

00:29:00.000 82% of Democrats believe American society is racist.

00:29:03.000 Only 30% of Republicans do.

00:29:06.000 57% of voters said they support the protests sparked by Floyd's killing.

00:29:10.000 58% said they are more concerned with racial inequality as a result of the demonstrations.

00:29:13.000 Because everybody understands that you are sort of supposed to say this.

00:29:16.000 I don't understand why you weren't concerned with racial problems before this.

00:29:21.000 But apparently people got more concerned in just a few short weeks.

00:29:28.000 On specific questions, like kneeling, In August of 2018, 54% of Americans thought that kneeling during the national anthem to protest racial inequality was inappropriate.

00:29:39.000 Only 43% of Americans thought it was appropriate.

00:29:41.000 By the way, the numbers were even more on behalf of not appropriate before Trump was elected.

00:29:45.000 Trump jumped into that culture war.

00:29:46.000 A lot of people took the other side just because they don't like Trump.

00:29:49.000 So it used to be like a 60-40 proposition, maybe a 65-35% proposition.

00:29:52.000 People didn't like kneeling for the national anthem because they felt like, okay, police brutality does not represent the flag and the flag doesn't represent police brutality.

00:29:59.000 That's absurd.

00:30:00.000 The flag represents the fact that people get to play athletics for millions of dollars regardless of race, right?

00:30:04.000 That's more representative of the American flag than incidents of police brutality.

00:30:09.000 Okay, so most Americans thought this was a bad idea.

00:30:11.000 Now, 52% of Americans say it is appropriate for athletes and football players to kneel during the national anthem.

00:30:16.000 45% say it is not appropriate.

00:30:19.000 Again, if you believe that the American flag represents police brutality, you're doing it wrong.

00:30:23.000 You're doing it wrong.

00:30:25.000 There are only two groups of people who actually believe the American flag, in its essence, represents police brutality or defends police brutality.

00:30:31.000 White supremacists and the woke.

00:30:33.000 Everybody else recognizes that police brutality is acting outside the scope of agency.

00:30:39.000 And scope of agency is a legal concept.

00:30:40.000 If I deploy you to go get me a pizza as my agent, and then you veer off the road and decide to strike a child with your car, you have acted outside the scope of agency.

00:30:49.000 When a policeman acts brutally, that is outside the scope of agency.

00:30:52.000 Nobody said to the policeman, go act brutally.

00:30:56.000 So the kneeling question has shifted pretty dramatically.

00:31:00.000 Furthermore, a majority of black voters in the survey, 65%, this is the key question, said that people of color experience racial discrimination because it is built into American society, including U.S.

00:31:10.000 policies and institutions.

00:31:11.000 That's the devastating question.

00:31:12.000 So two in three black Americans believe that racial discrimination is not endemic to human nature, and it's not just a matter of individual sin.

00:31:22.000 It is built into the systems, which inherently means you gotta tear down the entire system in order to fight racial discrimination.

00:31:27.000 That's a disintegrationist worldview.

00:31:29.000 And that is being promulgated by our media.

00:31:31.000 It's being promulgated by folks who are attempting to foster racial conflict.

00:31:38.000 It is a perspective on American society that is generally oriented at destroying anything that could possibly bind us.

00:31:44.000 A plurality of white voters, 48%, attribute racial discrimination to individuals who hold racist views as opposed to institutions and society as a whole.

00:31:52.000 Which, by the way, is much more accurate because if you're going to point to it, I've been saying this for years, if you're going to say institutional racism, you have to point to the institution and you have to explain how it is racist.

00:32:00.000 And it is not enough to say, well, you know, policing when it first started was about slave catching.

00:32:03.000 Fast forward 200 years and it's exactly the same. 0.98

00:32:06.000 None of this fast forward crap.

00:32:07.000 Because fast forwarding means you skipped the entire plot. 0.62

00:32:10.000 Just like if you're watching a movie and you don't know the plot.

00:32:13.000 If you start with the first five minutes and you fast forward to the end, you don't get the plot.

00:32:17.000 If you go 1619, 2020, no difference.

00:32:19.000 You just skipped 400 years somewhere in there.

00:32:22.000 And there's been a few developments in that time.

00:32:25.000 Views of the Black Lives Matter movement also differ by race.

00:32:30.000 76% of black voters hold a positive view.

00:32:32.000 These are evenly divided among white voters.

00:32:34.000 42% hold a positive view, 39% a negative one.

00:32:37.000 And again, one of the issues here is that when it comes to these issues, there is so much semantic overload.

00:32:42.000 And when people say black lives matter, do they mean that we want black people to live full and prosperous lives?

00:32:47.000 If so, there should be 100% agreement.

00:32:49.000 I agree with that.

00:32:50.000 If what we mean is the Black Lives Matter organization is good, no. 1.00

00:32:54.000 The Black Lives Matter organization is horrible neo-Marxist garbage. 0.98

00:32:58.000 The Black Lives Matter organization, again, not the protesters, not the phrase, the actual organization, Black Lives Matter, which you can find on the web, I think it's blacklivesmatter.org or something, it's a neo-Marxist garbage organization. 0.99

00:33:10.000 It is openly anti-Semitic. 0.98

00:33:12.000 It is a terrible organization.

00:33:14.000 So the problem with poll questions like this is it's unclear What exactly people are asked to side behind to get an unclear result.

00:33:22.000 Three-quarters of voters said they were encouraged the country is addressing long-standing issues of racism in society.

00:33:26.000 So, I think this is the hopeful stat here, right, that suggests that maybe the disintegrationists are not going to win, is that it really suggests this stat might be the most telling one of all.

00:33:35.000 That three-quarters of voters say they are encouraged the country is addressing these issues, meaning just by us responding to this poll, we're hoping that we can tie the country back together again.

00:33:43.000 We've shown we don't like racism, so can we please go back to normal?

00:33:46.000 I think that's really what that poll stat is saying.

00:33:49.000 At the same time, half said they were concerned that the protests over racial issues are creating social unrest and bringing too much change to the country, including erasing America's history and significant figures in it.

00:33:58.000 Which, of course, that should, again, be a 75% proposition, not a 50% proposition.

00:34:03.000 What these stats show is that we're living on knife's edge when it comes to the preservation of the factors that allow a society to continue forward in positive fashion.

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00:35:22.000 So all of this plays out in real life as violence takes place in the streets.

00:35:26.000 It is very obvious to see how the disintegrationists really damage the country when you see what is happening in Portland right now.

00:35:33.000 So in Portland, you basically have rolling riots that have been occurring for nigh on two months at this point.

00:35:38.000 And the local authorities have basically said that because the system, a system of which they are part by the way, because the system is endemically racist and cruel and brutal, they're gonna stand aside and just let this stuff happen.

00:35:48.000 So according to CNN, it's classic entrenchment with no end in sight.

00:35:52.000 Neither side is backing down as protesters and federal agents continue to periodically clash in downtown Portland, following an infusion of federal resources in the area.

00:35:59.000 And the Trump administration persists in seeking political gain from ongoing tensions.

00:36:02.000 Gotta love CNN's coverage.

00:36:03.000 Very objective journalism-ing happening right there.

00:36:06.000 The Trump administration persists in seeking political gain from ongoing tensions.

00:36:09.000 How about, Portland has completely refused to enact any semblance of law and order for years at this point, and the federal government is saying, no mas, we are done here, no more.

00:36:19.000 According to Aaron, a Portland resident who withheld his full name, we want to get them the F out of our city.

00:36:25.000 According to acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf, he said, I offered DHS support to help locally address the situation going on in Portland.

00:36:31.000 Their only response was, please pack up and go home.

00:36:33.000 That's not going to happen on my watch.

00:36:36.000 What constitutes the situation Wolf describes is not one mutually accepted by those on different sides of the issue.

00:36:41.000 The Trump administration says they are fighting anarchists.

00:36:43.000 But protesters here on the ground in Portland tell CNN the president and his team are broad-brushing an entire movement overwhelmingly peaceful despite some periods of violence for purely political reasons.

00:36:51.000 I love that when you shut down, rioting and looting, that's political.

00:36:54.000 When you riot and loot, that's not political.

00:36:56.000 Also, overwhelmingly peaceful.

00:36:59.000 This phrase is being stretched beyond all boundaries of linguistic accuracy.

00:37:04.000 Overwhelmingly peaceful does not include you attacking a federal courthouse.

00:37:08.000 Overwhelmingly peaceful.

00:37:10.000 And honestly, I can't wait for the phrase mostly peaceful to start being applied in America's criminal courtrooms.

00:37:14.000 I'm really looking forward to it.

00:37:15.000 They should have used it at the OJ trial.

00:37:18.000 You know, that night OJ was mostly peaceful.

00:37:20.000 Yeah, really.

00:37:21.000 Like, for most of the night, like there were 12 hours of the night between sunset and sunrise.

00:37:25.000 That was like a 12 hour period.

00:37:27.000 And for at least 10 hours and 45 minutes, OJ was peaceful.

00:37:30.000 Overwhelmingly peaceful that evening. 0.98

00:37:33.000 This kind of what absolute mush mouth garbage from the media. 0.98

00:37:37.000 It really is incredible. 0.97

00:37:37.000 OK, so President Trump is now threatening a crackdown on violent anarchists, as he should, because it turns out that when a city refuses to protect its law abiding citizenry, they fail in their duty to protect the life, liberty and property of their citizenry. 0.97

00:37:48.000 Here was President Trump yesterday correctly stating that he was not going to allow law and order to completely collapse in a major American city.

00:37:55.000 I'm going to do something, that I can tell you, because we're not going to let New York and Chicago and Philadelphia and Detroit and Baltimore and all of these... Oakland is a mess.

00:38:07.000 We're not going to let this happen in our country.

00:38:09.000 All run by liberal Democrats.

00:38:11.000 More federal law enforcement to some of these cities.

00:38:13.000 We're going to have more federal law enforcement, that I can tell you.

00:38:15.000 In Portland, they've done a fantastic job.

00:38:17.000 They've been there three days.

00:38:19.000 And they really have done a fantastic job in a very short period of time.

00:38:23.000 No problem.

00:38:24.000 They grab them.

00:38:25.000 A lot of people in jail.

00:38:26.000 They're leaders.

00:38:27.000 These are anarchists.

00:38:27.000 These are not protesters.

00:38:29.000 Okay, and he is correct about this.

00:38:30.000 The media naturally conflate the anarchists and the protesters.

00:38:34.000 It's amazing.

00:38:35.000 Rioters in Portland overwhelmed police and torched the police union headquarters over the last couple of days.

00:38:41.000 But apparently this is all just like normal protesting, according to the media.

00:38:45.000 And you can tell which side the media are on, right?

00:38:47.000 So long as they are opposing Trump, they don't care if they are forwarding the goals of so many members of Antifa.

00:38:54.000 They don't care if they are helping the anarchists.

00:38:56.000 In fact, they kind of like it because the system deserves to fall.

00:39:00.000 The system deserves to go down.

00:39:01.000 The media coverage of this stuff is absolutely astonishing.

00:39:04.000 I mean, truly, truly crazy.

00:39:06.000 My favorite piece on this was by Richard Reed at the LA Times.

00:39:09.000 This is amazing.

00:39:09.000 So in Portland, there was a naked crazy lady who showed up and started doing yoga poses in front of the cops.

00:39:14.000 Richard Reed apparently took out the Vaseline and had himself an old time while writing this piece.

00:39:20.000 She emerged as an apparition from clouds of tear gas as federal agents fired pepper balls at angry protesters in the early Saturday darkness. 0.98

00:39:27.000 A woman wearing nothing but a black face mask and a stocking cap strode toward a dozen heavily armed agents, attired in camouflage fatigues, lined up across a downtown Portland street. 0.80

00:39:37.000 The agents, dispatched by the Trump administration over vociferous objections of state and city officials, are part of a force that has fired projectiles at and detained activists protesting nightly since the killing of George Floyd.

00:39:48.000 Numerous photos and videos posted on Twitter show the unidentified woman as she halted in the middle of the street at about 1.45 a.m.

00:39:55.000 She stood calmly, a surreal image of human vulnerability in the face of an overwhelming force that has been criticized nationally by civil rights advocates.

00:40:04.000 The agents in gas masks and helmets continued firing pepper balls in a staccato.

00:40:08.000 Heard on video, aiming low at the asphalt, where puffs of smoke mingled with clouds of gas.

00:40:13.000 At one point, a fellow protester, clothed, carried a homemade shield, darted in front of the woman, angling to protect her, but the woman sidestepped him.

00:40:21.000 He jumped out of the way, perhaps realizing he made them both a target.

00:40:23.000 Before it was over, she struck ballet poses and reclined on the street.

00:40:27.000 She also sat on the asphalt in a yoga-like position, facing officers before they left.

00:40:32.000 The woman making her statement Saturday was altogether uninhibited, at one point standing on one leg, raising her arms in an archetype motion. 0.98

00:40:40.000 As she struck ballet poses, a patrol car arrived, and a dozen officers in blue uniforms replaced the line of agents, whom officials described as having been targeted by protesters, throwing rocks, bottles, and pieces of metal.

00:40:49.000 Oh, well, that's kind of why they're there, not the naked lady. 1.00

00:40:52.000 She sat in the street facing them, legs spread, and the headlights glare.

00:40:56.000 Calm down there, dude.

00:40:57.000 Calm down, Richard Reid of the LA Times.

00:41:00.000 Later, she rolled on her back in a graceful pose, then stood again.

00:41:04.000 Images of her on social media harked back to a previous iconic, but clothed images juxtaposing force and vulnerability.

00:41:10.000 Nudity has served as a form of protest since at least the 11th century, when legend holds that Lady Godiva rode naked, veiled only by her long hair, on a horse through Coventry, England, to protest oppressive taxation.

00:41:21.000 On Twitter, sympathetic commentators were quick to conclude that naked Athena, as they dubbed the Portland protester, caused the officer to turn tail.

00:41:29.000 Others on Twitter said the performance by a white woman distracted from protests of injustices faced by black people, which is hilarious. 1.00

00:41:36.000 OK, I do love that the woke are even like, this naked lady needs to go because she's white. 1.00

00:41:39.000 Get out. 0.98

00:41:40.000 She's protesting for us.

00:41:40.000 Get her out of here.

00:41:41.000 No more naked lady. 1.00

00:41:42.000 But the media's willingness to just basically bow at the altar of insanity just because they are in favor of the Kass.

00:41:52.000 They like the Kass. 0.99

00:41:53.000 The Kass is good, according to many members of the media.

00:41:55.000 It's ugly and it has an underlying agenda.

00:41:57.000 Because guess what? 0.98

00:41:58.000 Bad crap's happening in the country right now. 0.98

00:41:59.000 The NYPD commissioner said yesterday that he was losing count of how many cops have been attacked in New York, which is correct. 1.00

00:42:07.000 Cops all over the United States are being attacked.

00:42:09.000 Violent crime rates are going up.

00:42:10.000 And you know who's paying the most?

00:42:11.000 It ain't the cops. 0.80

00:42:12.000 It is black citizens of places like Chicago and New York, where violence has been skyrocketing. 0.98

00:42:17.000 Here's the NYPD commissioner. 0.88

00:42:19.000 I mean, we've had attack after attack on police officers.

00:42:23.000 I'm losing count of the officers that I'm calling at home injured, having surgery.

00:42:29.000 This is just in the last week.

00:42:31.000 So this all has prompted Representative James Clyburn of South Carolina to compare federal law enforcement to the Gestapo.

00:42:38.000 Seriously, a thing.

00:42:39.000 Okay, so federal law enforcement comes in because these cities are refusing to enforce law.

00:42:43.000 And he is now calling federal law enforcement the Gestapo.

00:42:45.000 This is the new thing, by the way. 0.94

00:42:47.000 There's an entire column by the idiot Michelle Goldberg at the New York Times, suggesting, quote, Trump's occupation of American cities has begun. 0.85

00:42:54.000 You know, as opposed to the occupation by unlawful forces that have completely shut down major American cities for weeks on end, sending in the federal law enforcement to arrest people. 0.96

00:43:02.000 That's an occupation.

00:43:04.000 She says, can we call it fascism yet?

00:43:07.000 My favorite part is that she literally does not understand the law.

00:43:10.000 So she's like, people are being arrested without warrants!

00:43:12.000 Okay, you know what that is called very often?

00:43:14.000 That is just called an arrest.

00:43:15.000 Felony arrests in public places do not require a warrant according to Supreme Court law.

00:43:21.000 They do not... Felony arrests in places not open to the public require a warrant.

00:43:25.000 But if you're walking around the park and you're committing a felony, or there's suspicion you're committing a felony, you can be arrested.

00:43:29.000 They don't need a warrant to arrest you on site.

00:43:31.000 Yeah, but apparently this is very bad.

00:43:32.000 Anyway, here's James Clyburn suggesting that Americans, American soldiers, right?

00:43:36.000 Federal law enforcement, members of the DHS are the Gestapo.

00:43:41.000 I find this rather insulting to people who actually survived the Gestapo.

00:43:44.000 Here's James Clyburn.

00:43:46.000 For all of a sudden, these people that go in there, nothing from the governor, nothing from local law enforcement, just show up with their faces covered in unmarked cars.

00:43:59.000 That is the beginning of the ending of this democracy.

00:44:04.000 That kind of activity is the activity of a police state.

00:44:09.000 And this president and this attorney general seem to be doing everything they possibly can to impose Gestapo activities in local communities.

00:44:21.000 James Clyburn should know better than anybody alive what actual Gestapo tactics look like.

00:44:25.000 This is a man old enough to have lived through Jim Crow and experienced it.

00:44:28.000 That was Gestapo stuff.

00:44:29.000 When the police were actively in arm of segregation.

00:44:32.000 That was Gestapo stuff.

00:44:33.000 Not when the police are acting, when the federal law enforcement are acting to stop people from burning federal buildings.

00:44:39.000 But the goal, of course, is to conflate all of this.

00:44:41.000 It's to conflate all of this.

00:44:42.000 If you stand up against the burning of federal buildings, if you stand up against the lawlessness running rampant through America's cities, you're just defending the system.

00:44:49.000 And if people have to pay, innocent people have to pay because the system collapses, them's the brakes.

00:44:54.000 Them's the brakes.

00:44:55.000 Disintegrationism does not care about the costs.

00:44:58.000 It doesn't care about the costs.

00:45:00.000 Which is why, of course, the media will go after, they'll be very, very upset about the vandalism committed by an anti-Black Lives Matter protesters, a black woman who went to the giant painting mural Black Lives Matter in front of Fifth Avenue a couple days ago.

00:45:14.000 And she started pouring black paint on there and shouting that black lives do matter, which is why we need to refund the police. 1.00

00:45:21.000 But that's vandalism, right?

00:45:22.000 That's something that's worth prosecuting, obviously.

00:45:24.000 Throwing paints on George Washington?

00:45:25.000 We leave that alone if we're disintegrationists.

00:45:27.000 This lady is obviously doing something deeply wrong by defacing the holy yellow painting outside of the 5th Avenue Trump Tower, even though it has done nothing to save black lives. 1.00

00:45:37.000 That mural has done nothing.

00:45:38.000 Zero things, as the lady correctly notes.

00:45:41.000 Again, vandalism?

00:45:42.000 Not a great thing.

00:45:44.000 Her generalized point is correct.

00:45:46.000 The virtue signaling, the disintegrationism has costs.

00:45:49.000 It does have costs, especially when you're talking about removing police.

00:45:51.000 Meanwhile, a Democratic prosecutor is now charging a Missouri couple for defending their private property.

00:45:58.000 A Democratic prosecutor who is up for re-election, her name is Kim Gardner, announced on Monday she's charging a St.

00:46:02.000 Louis couple who defended their private property using firearms last month.

00:46:06.000 They were ripped up and down on social media.

00:46:08.000 It was so terrible.

00:46:09.000 What happened?

00:46:09.000 They lived in a private gated community.

00:46:11.000 Protesters, who become rioters the moment you break the law, they ripped doors off the hinges of the private gated community because they wanted to yell at the mayor.

00:46:18.000 And they walked through and apparently were threatening this guy and his wife and their property.

00:46:22.000 The guy and his wife walked out carrying guns. 0.75

00:46:24.000 Now they are being charged with fourth degree misdemeanor assault.

00:46:28.000 As well as felony unlawful use of a weapon, according to the St.

00:46:31.000 Louis Post-Dispatch.

00:46:33.000 Mark and Patricia McCloskey each are now facing a single felony count of unlawful use of a weapon, exhibiting.

00:46:39.000 Charging documents say that Mark pointed an AR-15 rifle at protesters and she wielded a semi-automatic handgun, placing those protesters in fear of injury.

00:46:47.000 There's only one problem.

00:46:47.000 There is a Castle Doctrine in Missouri.

00:46:49.000 Okay, there's a Castle Doctrine in Missouri, and that Castle Doctrine in Missouri means you get to defend your private property.

00:46:57.000 Mark McCloskey appeared on Tucker Carlson's show last night and here's what he had to say for himself.

00:47:03.000 The people that broke into my neighborhood, they're all trespassing.

00:47:06.000 The guy that recruited it, that planned this event, said the next day that he intended to break the law, that he needed to break laws in order to send his message.

00:47:17.000 None of those people are arrested.

00:47:18.000 None of those people are charged.

00:47:20.000 The prosecutor, the circuit attorney, has apparently decided that her job as a prosecutor isn't to keep us safe from criminals, but to keep the criminals safe from us.

00:47:29.000 It's a bizarre, upside-down world.

00:47:32.000 I've been a little irritated by this process until today.

00:47:35.000 Now I'm just flat out pissed off.

00:47:36.000 I mean, this has gotten to be outrageous.

00:47:39.000 McCloskey pointed out that one person pulled out loaded pistol magazines, clicked them together and said, you're next.

00:47:44.000 He said, we were threatened with our lives, threatened with the house being burned down, my office building being burned down, our dog's life being threatened.

00:47:49.000 It was about as bad as it can get.

00:47:50.000 I really thought it was the storming of the Bastille.

00:47:52.000 We'd be dead.

00:47:52.000 The house would be burned.

00:47:53.000 There was nothing we could do about it.

00:47:54.000 It was a large, frightening crowd.

00:47:55.000 They broke in the gate and they were coming at us.

00:47:58.000 Well, the good news is that Missouri AG has filed to dismiss the charges.

00:48:02.000 He says, I won't stand by while Missouri law is being ignored.

00:48:04.000 So at least there is that.

00:48:06.000 But the lawlessness, the attempt to tear down the system from within, that is the grave threat to the Republic.

00:48:11.000 We should all, all be able to stand with the idea that law-abiding matters.

00:48:15.000 That the system is built around freedom.

00:48:17.000 It is not built around oppression.

00:48:19.000 Because if we believe the opposite, then the system will indeed collapse, and what replaces it is going to be something not quite as nice as the most powerful, free, and prosperous nation in the history of the world.

00:48:28.000 Okay.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - July 21, 2020

How To Destroy America In Three Easy Steps | Ep. 1056

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