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00:00:00.000Well, folks, more state polling is out, and it shows, once again, that the race is unbelievably close, which means the debate next week is going to be pretty much everything.
00:00:09.000If Donald Trump shows up and mops the floor with Kamala Harris, or if Kamala Harris shows up and shockingly outperforms, that could be the deciding factor in this election.
00:00:18.000We'll get to what Trump needs to do and what he needs to avoid in the debate momentarily.
00:00:21.000First in one week, Matt Walsh's Am I Racist?
00:01:05.000All of these states are effectively tied.
00:01:08.000All of the major battleground states right now are effectively tied, which is why Nate Silver continues to suggest in his modeling that Donald Trump is actually in the lead.
00:01:16.000Because the polls tend to undersample Trump supporters at least a little bit, because he has a lot of low-propensity voters who show up just for Donald Trump, makes the electorate really, really hard to model.
00:01:26.000Plus, there are a bunch of systemic factors that don't cut exactly in Kamala Harris' favor.
00:01:31.000The more people see of Kamala Harris, the less they like her.
00:01:34.000At least in unscripted settings, which is why she has only done scripted settings for this entire election cycle.
00:01:40.000Kamala Harris, for her part, she's going to spend pretty much the next five, six days actually just prepping for the debate, according to the Washington Post.
00:01:48.000While Donald Trump is out campaigning, Harris is headed to Pittsburgh, where aides say she'll spend several days preparing for Tuesday's presidential debate with Donald Trump.
00:01:56.000Now, honestly, that's kind of amazing.
00:01:58.000Why does she require many days to prep for a debate with Donald Trump?
00:02:01.000It's not as though Donald Trump is new to the political scene.
00:02:04.000What are her lines of attack going to be?
00:02:06.000The answer here is that she's going to have to memorize a lot because she doesn't have the ability to stick and move.
00:02:10.000She has no capacity to actually adjust on her feet to the things happening around her.
00:02:16.000And so she's going to have to memorize a lot.
00:02:18.000And they're probably planning for that.
00:02:20.000That is why, despite all the protestations about how they're mad that the microphones will be closed because they were hoping for some sort of Donald Trump silly statement in the middle of one of her statements so she can claim she's being interrupted and victimized and all of the rest.
00:02:35.000You can see a world where it actually benefits her, that Donald Trump can't actually interject anything because, you know, if she's got a bunch of questions memorized, then she can sort of spit them out the way that you would in rote fashion on a 7th grade social studies exam.
00:02:48.000In any case, let's get into what Donald Trump has to do in the debate.
00:02:53.000So again, this debate is pretty much everything.
00:02:54.000Because here's the thing, Donald Trump's numbers right now, pretty much stagnant.
00:02:59.000But Kamala Harris's numbers have been all over the place, historically speaking.
00:03:03.000If you go back to before she was the candidate, she was losing to Trump pretty significantly in the polls.
00:03:08.000Then they swapped out The dead president for an alive vice president and suddenly she had new levels of enthusiasm that all came right back into play.
00:03:37.000Vance, they've been out doing interviews like pretty much every day.
00:03:39.000Frank Luntz makes the point that Donald Trump and J.D.
00:03:44.000Vance have done legitimately dozens of interviews in the same time frame that Harris Walz has done one.
00:03:52.000The Trump-Vance ticket, according to Luntz, has done a combined 38 interviews since August 6th.
00:03:57.000Harris Wallace has done one and it was 16 minutes of her talking.
00:04:00.000Lund says this could end up being like Trump holding 106 campaign rallies while Hillary Clinton held 71 in the final 70 days of the 2016 race.
00:04:10.000He says the campaign rally trend from 2016 is resembling the current media interview trend in 2024.
00:04:17.000She continues to avoid all adversarial situations because she is really bad at this.
00:04:21.000Which means, again, Trump has to seize on the situation.
00:05:28.000When you switch your cell phone service to Pure Talk on a qualifying plan, you'll get one year free of Daily Wire Plus Insider, which means access to the full library of DW Plus movies, series, and documentaries, including Lady Ballers, What is a Woman?, Mr. Bersham, Run Hyde Fight Plus, uncensored ad-free daily shows, So I think this will be the one and only debate, all the talk about a future debate, a possible future debate, I think that's all nonsense.
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00:06:00.000So I think this will be the one and only debate, all the talk about a future debate, a possible future,
00:07:01.000He should say thank you for showing up because it's finally, it's great to be able to see someone ask you a question.
00:07:08.000I know you're trying to run on vibes, but it turns out that being president of the United States should be about a little bit more than vibes.
00:07:15.000Theme number two is that she is the incumbent and she owns this.
00:07:19.000So Kamala Harris during this debate is going to make a lot of promises.
00:07:22.000She's going to talk about how she's going to lower inflation.
00:07:24.000She's going to fight for the middle class.
00:07:46.000You own the Afghanistan decision that left 19 million women in abject slavery, locking them in the basement, getting tens of thousands of our allies killed.
00:08:33.000It's not just that she's vague, we'll get to that in a minute.
00:08:35.000It's that she is totally and completely dishonest.
00:08:39.000And here he should hammer her on Joe Biden's health.
00:08:42.000It turns out that 80% of Americans believe that we were lied to about Joe Biden's health, and that people who continue to maintain that Joe Biden is totally with it, well, solid, that 80% of Americans believe those people are lying to them.
00:09:54.000He should point out that she is doing ads in which she walks next to his border wall and pretends that she's hard on border security because she's lying.
00:10:04.000She can't even keep her accent straight.
00:10:06.000When she's in Detroit, she starts dropping into a southern accent.
00:10:10.000And the minute she's in Pittsburgh, she suddenly sounds like she's a business school student at Hofstra.
00:10:21.000So at some point during this debate, you know she's gonna drop a word salad.
00:10:23.000She's gonna start waving the arms around, making the weird hand motions.
00:10:28.000You know, the importance of the environment is that the environment, which houses us all on this planet, we like to call the Earth, so important.
00:10:43.000And when she finishes her answer, he should say the exact same thing to her that he said to Joe Biden.
00:10:49.000He should say, frankly, I don't know what she said, and I don't think she does either.
00:10:57.000I said that about her predecessor in this race, Joe Biden, because he legitimately didn't know what he was saying at any given time because of his mental problems, of his sad decline.
00:11:08.000But you, you don't know what you're talking about because you legitimately don't know what you're talking about.
00:11:12.000You can't hold firm on a single policy.
00:11:14.000You can't explicate any of your policy positions without randomly exploring the wilds of empty, vague rhetoric.
00:11:25.000You can spit out bumper stickers and mix that in with nonsense.
00:11:42.000Kamala Harris is the most radical presidential candidate in modern American history.
00:11:48.000Which is to say, all of American history.
00:11:50.000Because, you know, if you're a radical candidate, then your radicalism has likely flowered in the United States in the last half century or so.
00:11:58.000She is easily the most radical candidate in American history.
00:12:02.000He should say, you told the truth about your positions in 2019-2020 when you ran for president that time.
00:12:43.000You said in 2019-2020 that by 2035, you actually co-sponsored a bill saying that by 2035 there should not be gas-powered engines in the United States sold on the market.
00:12:55.000Now you say that you don't want an electric vehicle mandate.
00:12:58.000But you were also asked just last week by Axios whether you would veto such a bill and you had no answer.
00:13:05.000Do you want to decriminalize border crossings?
00:13:06.000Back in 2019-2020, you said that you did want to decriminalize border crossings.
00:13:11.000When you were Attorney General of the State of California, you sued to try to prevent the federal government from cracking down on sanctuary cities.
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00:15:26.000Because there was actually a massive crime lab at failure that led to the release of 1,000 criminals onto the streets because you were so soft on crime.
00:15:33.000You were a San Francisco prosecutor, and now you want to be a San Francisco president.
00:15:38.000You say you're going to be tough on terrorism.
00:15:40.000You're going to have a lethal military.
00:15:42.000You haven't even unleashed that lethal military on the Houthis, a ragtag bunch of bandits who have held up all shipping in the Red Sea.
00:15:49.000What is it you would say you do around here if you're so tough?
00:15:52.000If you're so, if you're so rough on the world stage, people actually fear you.
00:16:27.000Your campaign was so bad in 2020 that there were vast articles about how terrible that campaign was.
00:16:32.000You had to drop out before you even got to your own home state.
00:16:34.000The amazing thing about you, Kamala, is that you somehow became the presidential nominee for a major American party by never winning a single primary vote in your entire life.
00:17:17.000You're not just radical, you are a threat to democracy.
00:17:19.000You have pledged to completely revise the bargain of the Constitution between the people and their government.
00:17:25.000You have pledged that if you become president, and if you have a Democratic Senate and a Democratic House, you will immediately kill the filibuster.
00:17:32.000You will then use a bare Senate majority in order to ram through a wide variety of radical proposals, ranging from stacking the Supreme Court, to changing voting rules, to mandate ballot harvesting across the nation.
00:17:44.000That is the practice where you have party apparatchiks who go around and pick up ballots from their favored constituencies.
00:17:53.000To adding states to the United States Senate, to permanently stack the United States Senate in favor of Democrats.
00:17:59.000The administration under which you serve has used more executive orders than any administration in modern history.
00:18:06.000That administration has tried to use the Occupational Safety and Health Administration in order to cram down a VAX mandate on 80 million Americans.
00:18:16.000You want to claim I'm a threat to democracy because there was a riot on January 6th?
00:18:19.000How about the fact that you presided As a vice presidential candidate, over some of the worst riots in American history, and I say presided over because you tried to bail out the rioters in the Black Lives Matter riots.
00:18:31.000And finally, theme number nine, you're just not up to the job.
00:18:34.000You failed at every single job Joe Biden ever gave you.
00:18:36.000He put you in charge of like the space program, and now we can't even have a rocket get up to the International Space Station to get down our astronauts.
00:18:44.000Joe Biden put you in charge of the border in the Northern Triangle, and illegal immigration skyrocketed.
00:18:48.000Joe Biden made you part of the Ukraine team, and Ukraine was promptly invaded.
00:18:55.000You were totally sidelined in the White House according to multiple reports because you were so incompetent.
00:19:01.000The only reason we're even talking about you right now is because your boss went totally senile and then you were rammed into the nomination by Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer.
00:19:10.000There's literally no issue on which you have been given control that you have not botched beyond all belief.
00:20:12.000Here's Ian Sams, who's the Harris walls senior advisor on MSNBC, just lamenting and whining and about the fact that there won't be open mics.
00:20:21.000I think you mentioned the fact that the Trump campaign insisted on having the microphones muted in the debate on Tuesday night.
00:20:28.000I think that you can see that that's clearly a concentrated effort by President Trump to create a parameter to let him be more disciplined and more careful in his approach.
00:20:38.000I think people might be underestimating his ability in the debate.
00:20:41.000Given the structure and format of those muted microphones, you know, he, he lies so much that it's hard to fact check him in real time, whether you're a moderator or a candidate running against him.
00:20:52.000And so I think his handlers worked really hard to make sure that those mics stay muted to put him in a better position to be successful.
00:20:59.000Well, again, the reason that they are doing this, the reason they're pushing is because what they are desperately hoping for is for Trump to overstep his boundaries, lose his temper, and then she can do the, you see, he's not, he's too volatile.
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00:22:30.000Second, He cannot make personal insinuations.
00:22:46.000It turns out it is amazing that we have now reached a point in the United States of America where it is considered more controversial to mention the fact that Kamala Harris got her start by having sex with Willie Brown, one of the most important men in California politics.
00:22:58.000It's more taboo to say that than it is for her to have done it.
00:23:02.000That's kind of an amazing thing about the United States in this day and age.
00:23:12.000It was all done on her skill and her wherewithal and her strength.
00:23:16.000No problem that she actually, you know, got her start by sleeping with one of the most powerful men in California politics who overtly talks about how much he helped her on her way up.
00:23:25.000But Trump shouldn't touch it because other people will say it and because he will be labeled a sexist and because then it will open him up to all sorts of allegations about his own sex life and that sort of stuff.
00:23:42.000And then finally, the biggest one of all, he should not waste time on personal grievances.
00:23:46.000Now, this one's very hard for President Trump, as we know.
00:23:48.000For President Trump, his rallies are really funny, and they're fun, and there's a lot going on at them, until he gets a Festivus.
00:23:54.000There's always a part of the rallies where he just starts to go into the Festivus grievances.
00:23:57.000Now, he's been doing this a lot less lately.
00:23:59.000President Trump has been avoiding this.
00:24:01.000He's been talking about how his policy will get to a very good policy speech he gave on economics just yesterday.
00:24:07.000But, he has an unfortunate habit, when prompted, of talking about how the election was stolen, and January 6th, and the victims of January, and all this kind of stuff.
00:26:04.000He's at the Economic Club of New York.
00:26:06.000And again, when Trump is on the issues, he wins.
00:26:09.000Right now, the polling suggests that in the swing states, he is winning on the economy.
00:26:13.000He's going to win more on the economy as she continues to lay out her terrible plans for the economy, all of which involves spending oodles of dollars and taxing pretty much everything that moves.
00:26:22.000She's going to tax everything that moves until it's dead, and then she is going to regulate the remains.
00:26:31.000President Trump, for his part, he can tout his record.
00:26:32.000One of the points I've made about this election is that in this election, Donald Trump wants you to remember his tenure in office, and Kamala Harris wants you to forget hers.
00:26:42.000That's something Trump should probably say in the debate.
00:26:44.000I'm here to remind you of my record in office, and she is here to make you forget hers.
00:26:49.000Here he was touting his own record, economically speaking.
00:26:52.000Real median household income rose by $7,684.
00:26:59.000And even after the pandemic, annual incomes were up $6,400.
00:27:02.000The average American household saw $197,000 increase in real net worth in 48 months.
00:27:05.000average American household saw a $197,000 increase in real net worth in 48 months.
00:27:14.000For the bottom 50% of households, average wealth more than doubled, increasing by 121%.
00:27:23.000After 12 years of decline, we added nearly 7 million new homeowners.
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00:28:47.000The reality is virtually all the jobs created under Biden-Harris are what would be called rebound jobs, meaning they were jobs that were lost during COVID that just came back to where they were.
00:28:56.000And then we started growing again, but at a slower rate than under President Trump.
00:29:00.000And right now, we are having some pretty significant reports of joblessness.
00:29:04.000The number of available jobs has gone down.
00:29:06.000And of course, that comes on the heels of three and a half years of radical inflation.
00:29:10.000Speaking of which, President Trump, speaking at the Economic Club of New York, he says, we're going to lower everything.
00:29:16.000We're going to lower the interest rates, all of it.
00:29:19.000I am promising low taxes, low regulations, low energy costs, low interest rates, secure borders, low, low, low crime, and surging incomes for citizens of every race, religion, color, and creed.
00:29:39.000My plan will rapidly defeat inflation, quickly bring down prices, and reignite explosive economic growth.
00:29:55.000President Trump also suggested that he's going to go along with Elon Musk's plan for a government efficiency commission to cut spending and cut regulation.
00:30:05.000I will create a government efficiency commission tasked with conducting a complete financial and performance audit Of the entire federal government and making recommendations for drastic reforms.
00:31:19.000To stop this onslaught at lower prices, I'm pledging today that in my second term, we will eliminate a minimum of 10 old regulations for every one new regulation.
00:31:33.000He wants to lower the corporate tax rate for firms producing in the United States.
00:31:36.000Now, the reality is that if you relieve a regulation and you radically lower the corporate tax rates for everyone, not just people producing in the United States, you'll get an explosion of growth, an explosion of innovation and investment.
00:31:47.000So listen, I'd rather have selective tax reductions than no tax reductions, but I'd rather have general tax reductions than selective tax reductions.
00:31:58.000My plan calls for expanded R&D tax credits, 100% bonus depreciation, expensing for new manufacturing investments, and a reduction in the corporate tax rate from 21% to 15%, solely for companies that make their product in America.
00:32:19.000Trump also went on attack while speaking at the Economic Club of New York.
00:32:37.000Her tax plan, which includes the promise to end the Trump tax cuts, which again by itself would be a massive tax increase, ...would increase taxes by over $5 trillion.
00:32:50.000It would result in the largest small business tax hike in history, massively raising taxes on 25 million small business people, and raising small business tax rates to 43% and higher, radically raise the capital gains tax rate, which he wants to do, and they don't even want to give a number.
00:33:09.000Well, of course, he is right about that, and he ripped her on her idiotic plan to tax unrealized capital gains.
00:33:16.000These policies, especially the tax on unrealized capital gains, would decimate the U.S.
00:33:23.000Companies and innovation would flee from America to other countries.
00:33:30.000Venture capital markets would disappear, the stock market would be annihilated, and investors assess the tax liabilities of large shareholders.
00:33:39.000The seniors and senior pensions would Totally go up in smoke.
00:34:46.000By the way, I do love that Joe Biden occasionally, he's kind of slipping the knife into Kamala Harris, like he's not super happy with this whole situation.
00:34:53.000So yesterday, slow Joe was out there on the campaign trail and he actually admitted full scale that the Inflation Reduction Act was totally misnamed and was a giant Green New Deal boondoggle.
00:35:02.000That's not very good for Kamala Harris.
00:35:04.000Here was Joe Biden trying to speak out of his mouth hole yesterday.
00:35:08.000So again, if Trump stays on the issues, he retains the upper hand in this election cycle.
00:35:12.000the most significant climate change law ever.
00:35:14.000And by the way, it is a $369 billion bill.
00:35:19.000It's called the, we should have named it what it was, but at any rate.
00:35:25.000So again, if Trump stays on the issues, he retains the upper hand in this election cycle.
00:36:29.000And they're watching you talking s*** about each other, you know, raging against the machine, or being silent, or whatever the hell it is that you're doing or not doing.
00:36:37.000And they know that you're not doing s*** for them.
00:37:16.000I'm so glad we can have these conversations and I'll be done, but I'm just so glad that we could all get together to have these conversations.
00:37:48.000No offense, but... No, but see, like, you're a white dude.
00:37:51.000There's power positions, and, uh, you know, it's... Pointing... pointing... White people pointing fingers at each other is not helpful.
00:38:00.000You know, I've been on this journey for so long, and just to see you guys at the table having this conversation has been really enlightening for me.
00:38:08.000Anyway, I got the DEI certification, and I'm just on the journey.
00:38:15.000All right, you ladies have a great one.
00:39:57.000Don't miss this incredible episode of the Sunday Special with Matt Walsh.
00:40:06.000Meanwhile, both parties seem to have become pretty warm on the idea of tariffs, not as a national security tool.
00:40:12.000Tariffs as a national security tool makes some sense.
00:40:14.000I mean, if you actually want to quash China's economic growth, then sure, you're going to make the economic sacrifice that American taxpayers will pay more money, but you'll also be harming China's economic growth.
00:40:26.000Both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris have sort of suggested.
00:40:29.000That tariffs to protect domestic industries are economically good.
00:40:32.000That, of course, is not particularly true.
00:40:34.000Both parties are now working together to kill a deal in which Nippon Steel, which is a Japanese company, is attempting to buy the Pittsburgh-based U.S.
00:40:44.000That doesn't mean, by the way, that that steel would stop being produced in the United States.
00:40:47.000It actually means more efficiencies that are brought to bear as Nippon Steel Actually infuses billions of dollars into the transaction to build new factories.
00:41:22.000Here, for example, is Chris Hayes of MSNBC lamenting X. Why?
00:41:26.000Well, because X, of course, allows for free speech and dissemination of information that Chris Hayes doesn't particularly like.
00:41:31.000He says that X is now turning into a pro-Trump disinformation machine.
00:41:36.000Elon Musk runs one of the most influential internet platforms, or at least it used to be, formerly known as Twitter.
00:41:41.000And he has essentially turned that platform into a pro-Trump, pro-authoritarian disinformation machine, where he just posts vile bigotry and disinformation that millions of people see and share.
00:41:53.000Despite his site's own policy that you may not share synthetic, manipulated, or out of context
00:41:58.000media that may deceive or confuse people, Musk does that basically all day long.
00:42:03.000Wow, he put out stuff that Chris Hayes doesn't like. I mean if you put out information that
00:42:07.000were meant to say deceive people about telling, let's say Russiagate for like four years,
00:42:29.000Here she was, vowing to use the DOJ to go after social media.
00:42:33.000And we'll put the Department of Justice of the United States back in the business of justice.
00:42:40.000We will double the Civil Rights Division and direct law enforcement to counter this extremism.
00:42:48.000We will hold social media platforms accountable for the hate infiltrating their platforms because they have a responsibility to help fight against this threat to our democracy.
00:43:03.000And if you profit off of hate, if you act as a megaphone for misinformation or cyber warfare, if you don't police your platforms, we are going to hold you accountable as a community.
00:43:19.000That seems like a fascistic threat to free speech, doesn't it?
00:43:22.000Amazingly enough, the New York Times is worried about a fascistic threat to free speech.
00:43:30.000Sulzberger, the publisher of the New York Times, has a piece in the Washington Post, because democracy dies in darkness and all the rest, decrying the possibility that Donald Trump is going to crack down on the press.
00:43:38.000Now, never mind that the Biden administration has been significantly worse to the press than the Trump administration ever was.
00:43:44.000Trump said mean things about the press, but he talked with them regularly.
00:43:46.000The Biden administration doesn't even bother to actually do interviews with the press.
00:43:51.000They just send out KJP to lie all the time.
00:44:26.000And so they can never call out actual threats to the free press as long as those threats come from the left.
00:44:31.000They'll only call out phantom threats to the free press from the right.
00:44:36.000And again, they're ramping up all the talk about disinformation because the idea is going to be that if Donald Trump wins, it was the Russians again.
00:44:42.000So there's been a lot of focus, for example, on this Russian operation to promote propaganda
00:44:49.000via a company called Tenet Media, which was founded by Lauren Chen
00:45:12.000Now, the goal of a lot of these stories is to suggest that, for example, Tim Pool or Benny Johnson produced pro-Russian propaganda because they were being paid by the Russians.
00:45:24.000That that wasn't their actual point of view.
00:45:26.000That they were sort of bought and paid for.
00:45:27.000So Lauren Chen has now been fired by The Blaze, which of course is an appropriate remedy.
00:45:32.000And the reality is that Lauren had been promulgating a lot of pretty ugly stuff for a very long period of time.
00:45:37.000And as an unfortunate fact of the modern media environment, there are some people on the right who are grifting their way forward.
00:45:45.000The fact that Lauren Chen spent an extraordinary amount of time basically decrying all of her political opponents is bought and paid for by foreign interests, and then it turns out that she was kind of bought and paid for by foreign interests.
00:46:30.000That's Y-A-F dot org slash A-I-R to find a theater near you and get your ticket today.
00:46:36.000And the bottom line is that, however, Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, there's no, in fact there's counter evidence to the idea that they were knowingly paid by the Russian government.
00:46:46.000And the sort of implication by the media that they were, yeah, it's pretty ugly.
00:46:51.000And again, I disagree with them when it comes to Russia-Ukraine in large measure.
00:46:56.000I've been an advocate of continuing funding to Ukraine sufficient to prevent a full-scale Russian victory in that war while also seeking an off-ramp.
00:47:04.000Frankly, I also think that Ukraine has every right and ability to incur into Russian territory as an offset to the territory that Russia has taken from Ukraine because that is going to forward their cause in future negotiation.
00:48:06.000What I really mean is the founders of the company apparently were, if the allegations in the indictment are true.
00:48:12.000All the media ran with was that because you are a host whose show is posted at Tenet Media, that this must have implicated you or Dave Rubin or Benny Johnson.
00:48:20.000Why don't you give us sort of the rundown of what's going on here?
00:48:23.000Yeah, the simple version is the Culture War podcast existed well before Tenet Media or any licensing agreement.
00:48:30.000We had the show, so I've got multiple YouTube channels.
00:50:03.000We have our own members and sponsorships.
00:50:05.000And then it took quite a while, but long story short...
00:50:08.000We agreed to a non-exclusive broadcast license, which meant that we own the show.
00:50:14.000The show is owned by the Culture War Company, which is its own company.
00:50:19.000We own distribution rights, we own audio distribution rights, everything about it.
00:50:23.000They just effectively paid for a license, which would have it appear on their YouTube channel, Friday mornings at 10am.
00:50:29.000And with that, they got to use my likeness and things like that.
00:50:32.000And so now with these allegations, I don't know what's going on there, but if you want to ask any questions so we can elaborate.
00:50:37.000Yeah, I mean, I think the only questions that, given the media coverage, I think the question that people in the media are pushing, at least, is the idea that there must have been some sort of outside, external, Russian control of your show.
00:50:49.000Maybe you want to address how you do the editorial at your show.
00:50:51.000Was Lauren ever talking to you about the editorial content of the show or anything like that?
00:52:02.000The first episode that actually appeared on Tenet was about skateboarding.
00:52:06.000Quite literally, we had a professional skateboard filmer, an amateur, and a professional skateboarder, and we talked about skateboarding.
00:52:14.000Because I'm a skateboarder, that's what we do.
00:52:16.000So, I mean, it's kind of crazy to hear that they're saying... the media's jumped the gun completely on what the story is.
00:52:24.000The DOJ indictment literally says that commentators were deceived, that there was a rather sophisticated plan to manipulate the commentators of the platform, so they wouldn't know what was going on.
00:52:36.000And I can say on my end, everything that happens here goes through our legal team, and we have multiple lawyers.
00:52:42.000So when someone reaches out to me and says, hey, we want to do a panel, we have sponsorships.
00:52:46.000And I don't know who these companies are.
00:52:47.000And we're a company with like 40 employees.
00:52:50.000And so when someone reaches out to us, I say, great, cool, someone handle it and talk to the lawyers.
00:52:56.000The lawyers come back, do their due diligence, and then we say, sure, or whatever.
00:53:01.000And so the crazy thing is, this was so ancillary to anything we do.
00:53:07.000You know, I do my morning show from 10 to noon now.
00:53:09.000At the time, it wasn't live, but now it's live.
00:53:12.000And then we do Tim Cast IRL from 8pm to 11pm.
00:53:14.000And so we don't, I don't really think much at all about where the show is streaming or distribution.
00:53:20.000For all I knew, this was, you know, Lauren Chen, she works at The Blaze.
00:53:24.000She wanted to start a company, she found investors.
00:53:29.000We only ever took money from an American corporation.
00:53:31.000The amount of money that we were offered for the show was around market value for offers we had already received.
00:53:37.000And so it was just like, cool, I know Lauren, sure, you know, whatever.
00:53:41.000And then you got Benny and Dave and Matt Christensen and Taylor Hanson, who I know them all, and I'm like, yeah, this seems fine, whatever.
00:53:49.000And the crazy thing is, you know, assuming all this stuff is true, I'm like, man, this sucks.
00:53:59.000And the bummer is, now with everything, with the way things are going, we could have just run the culture war on my channel with 1.3 million subscribers, as it is, and just made money on our own through sponsorships, as we already did.
00:54:12.000So it's frustrating to get entangled in whatever it is she's accused of being involved in.
00:54:17.000I mean, listen, you and I disagree, I think, on some of the elements around the Ukraine war, but the idea that's been put forth by the media is that somehow you were being paid directly by Vladimir Putin in order to express those views, and that therefore anybody who disagrees with sort of the Democratic take or even the sort of moderate Republican take on this must be paid by Russia.
00:54:36.000That, of course, is an absurdity, and I think it is wrapped into a broader narrative that seems to be ramping up just in time for the election.
00:55:26.000resources, not weapons, but with training and things of this matter, Ukraine's invaded Russian territory, pushing us to the brink of large-scale international conflict, which terrifies me.
00:56:11.000The ultimate smear is that the revenue that we were paid through the licensing deal was inconsequential to my lifestyle, to the bottom line of the company.
00:56:22.000And we've actually never done anything with it.
00:56:25.000I would say like, you know, the overwhelming majority of the money is just not gone anywhere.
00:56:29.000And then, you know, we have people tweeting at me like, give the money back or whatever it is.
00:57:38.000The other one is that you are suing Kamala Harris.
00:57:41.000The Kamala Harris campaign put out a tweet that is, it really is an absurd tweet.
00:57:45.000I mean, they put out a tweet effectively saying that you are calling for violence or that you are saying that Trump should actually arrest people or execute people based on whim.
00:57:54.000If you watch the clip that's posted, that is 100% not what you are saying.
00:57:58.000In fact, what you are saying is that if there are people who are guilty of crimes, then Trump should use his DOJ to go after those people.
00:58:04.000And then Laura Loomer, who is on your show, suggested That maybe if they're guilty of treason, they should be executed.
00:58:09.000But even with that statement, the presumption would be that there'd be some sort of judicial process.
00:58:13.000And I think that it's a pretty large stretch of the imagination to think that we're gonna get to the point where people are tried for treason in the United States and then executed.
00:58:19.000It's been a little while since we've done that in any case.
00:58:21.000But that's not what the Kamala Harris tweet said.
00:58:23.000The Kamala Harris tweet suggested that you believe that basically Donald Trump should be given dictatorial power to kill his enemies.
00:58:33.000It said I was a Trump operative, which, I don't know, I'm implying I'm paid, it's not true.
00:58:39.000It said their Project 2025 plan, I have nothing to do with Project 2025.
00:58:44.000And then it said that we were calling for Trump to have unchecked legal authority to jail and execute anyone who won't support him when he wins, or if he wins or whatever.
00:58:53.000Which is crazy, because I oppose the death penalty.
00:58:56.000I am adamantly opposed to the death penalty.
00:58:58.000And the actual clip They cut it short, but the actual full context was the Federalist Sean Davis had made a statement that day or the day prior that he wants to see a list of Democrats who are going to be criminally charged when Trump gets elected.
00:59:14.000My point was kind of walking that back.
00:59:16.000Like, we don't want to come out and just say, go arrest Democrats.
00:59:19.000The point in the full context of the conversation is, Are there some, like, I'll put it this way, when he says he wants a list of Democrats, my point is this.
00:59:28.000Are there some Democrats who should be criminally charged?
00:59:32.000I am not saying Democrat voters, I am not saying all Democrats, I am saying certainly there are people along with the Democratic Party, I believe there's that lawyer who was criminally charged over the Carter Page incident.
00:59:45.000Donald Trump will need a real, an AG, a Deputy Attorney General, a head of the FBI, who are going to launch investigations, get real evidence of these crimes, have warrants, there will be trials in front of the world to prove the crimes they committed, and then they can be sentenced.
01:00:00.000My point is it's not a point of origin for me to say, hey, Trump, go arrest these people.
01:00:57.000My lawyers are drafting the argument, so I think it's premature for me to say exactly what the remedy is going to be, and I have to confer with my lawyers on that.
01:01:08.000I don't know how much I can say, considering my lawyers are currently working on it, but we are going over paperwork, and once we have something finalized and it's filed, then everyone will know exactly what we're saying beyond the, hey, you can't accuse someone of these things.