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00:02:28.000It turns out that this entire cover is a lie.
00:02:30.000Not only is the cover wrong about President Trump's policy, which of course has been the policy in the United States since a 2016 court decision from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, so dating all the way back to the Obama administration, kids have been forcibly separated from parents who are arrested for federal charges.
00:02:46.000It is also not true because this girl was not even separated from her mother.
00:02:49.000So they took a picture of a little girl and then they photoshopped it in to an all red cover with President Trump in the foreground.
00:02:56.000And it turns out none of this is true.
00:03:36.000As soon as the search was finished, she immediately picked the girl up and the girl immediately stopped crying.
00:03:42.000OK, so the media took this photo and they blew it up and they made it seem as though the kid was crying because mommy had just been trucked away to the Nazi death camp by President Trump.
00:04:19.000She may even have touched President Trump's heart, Denis Valera told Reuters in a telephone interview.
00:04:23.000Valera said the little girl and her mother, Sandra Sanchez, had been detained together in the Texas border town of McGowan, where Sanchez has applied for asylum.
00:04:30.000And they were not separated after being detained near the border.
00:04:32.000Honduran Deputy Foreign Minister Nelly Jerez confirmed Valera's version of events.
00:04:36.000Well, not only was this kid not separated from mommy, it turns out that mommy was falsely claiming asylum.
00:04:41.000She is not, in fact, a political dissident in Honduras.
00:04:44.000In fact, she ran away from her other three children in Honduras.
00:04:52.000And yet, all of this was passed around the internet endlessly, and we were told that this Time magazine cover was just demonstrative of how America has gone the wrong way, about how everything is falling apart.
00:05:03.000Our moral status has been completely decimated.
00:05:06.000It's been completely decimated thanks to President Trump and his evil.
00:05:12.000Repeating this idiotic routine ad nauseum.
00:05:15.000So, for example, there's this one woman who tweeted out one of these stories that has now become ubiquitous on Twitter, where you ask your five-year-old a woke question.
00:05:23.000So this woman whose name is Bethany Oakley, she tweeted out, I asked my five-year-old if she wanted to come to a protest with me this weekend.
00:05:30.000First of all, the answer is always no.
00:05:32.000Your five-year-old does not want to come with you to a protest this weekend because why would a five-year-old want to go stand in the heat for some cause they have no idea what it is?
00:05:38.000Once I had explained what we were protesting, she looked at me with tears in her eyes and said, I don't know how to have these conversations with my kids.
00:05:47.000That's what Bethany Oakley tweeted out.
00:05:49.000You see this kind of stuff all over Twitter all the time.
00:05:51.000This thing had 15,000 likes, another 14,000 retweets, because asking woke five-year-olds about immigration policy is the way we ought to make immigration policy in the United States.
00:06:00.000I know that when I have a serious question about health care, I immediately go to my four-year-old and I ask her to break down Medicaid spending for me.
00:06:15.000Just like Bethany Oakley, I like to lie to my child.
00:06:17.000I like to say, Honey, if Social Security isn't reformed, by the time you grow up to 30, you'll be living in a deathly hellscape in the United States, in which small children are fed to dogs.
00:06:25.000And then when she cries, then I say to her, Honey, I don't know how to have these conversations with you.
00:06:31.000Now, here's the real way you have this conversation with your kid.
00:06:33.000Your kid says, Mommy, are they going to take me away too?
00:06:35.000And you say, No, honey, I didn't commit a federal crime.
00:06:38.000That's the actual way that that conversation goes.
00:06:41.000Because the separation of parents and kids, it ain't happening unless some federal crime has been committed.
00:06:46.000In this case, the lady claims asylum, and she wasn't even separated from the kid.
00:06:50.000So the lady falsely claimed asylum, she wasn't separated from the kid, she didn't come up for political dissident reasons, and she wasn't mistreated by Border Patrol.
00:06:57.000So this story tells exactly the reverse.
00:06:59.000It tells exactly the reverse of the story that the media wanted to tell, that the media ran with it anyway, because this is what they do.
00:07:06.000And then they wonder why we hate the media.
00:07:07.000They wonder why so many Americans look at the media and say, we can't trust you.
00:07:10.000They wonder why when President Trump shouts, CNN sucks, and everybody starts chanting along with him, that people are chanting.
00:07:39.000A 20-year-old Palestinian indicted Thursday on terror-related charges told Israeli investigators during his interrogation that Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar paid his relatives to falsely tell the media that his baby cousin died of tear gas inhalation.
00:07:52.000The story of baby Lila Gonder's death, purportedly from inhaling tear gas fired by Israel at the Gaza border, made headlines around the world last month and intensified global criticism of Israel's handling of Hamas-spurred violence at the fence.
00:08:02.000On May 28th, IDF forces arrested Mahmoud Omar, along with another member of Fatah's armed wing, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade.
00:08:09.000After they attempted to infiltrate into Israel and torture an unmanned IDF post, Omar had been acting as the lookout.
00:08:14.000The group did not manage to carry out the attack as they came under IDF fire during his questioning.
00:08:19.000Omar told interrogators the details of the planned attack and detailed his involvement in other terror-related activities.
00:08:25.000The suspect also disclosed that he was related to Laila Gandor, the eight-month-old baby whose May 14th death was originally reported to have been caused by inhalation of tear gas sprayed by Israeli forces at Gaza border protesters.
00:08:36.000The story of the baby's purported death dominated global media, and it turns out that two weeks prior to the arrest, this guy was part of the giant border riot.
00:08:45.000And he said that Lila had died of a blood disease similar to the one that took the life of the deceased infant's brother, who succumbed to the condition at the same age in 2017.
00:08:53.000The entire media ran with the story that Israel had murdered this child, and it turns out the kid died of a blood condition.
00:08:58.000And then you wonder why no one trusts the folks in the media?
00:09:02.000It's because the media suck at their jobs.
00:09:03.000Stop sucking at your jobs and we'll trust you more.
00:09:07.000But running with blanket stories that are provided by Hamas, or running with stories about a picture that isn't even based on reality,
00:09:14.000You know, in which a mother put down her kid for two minutes and the baby was hungry, and then the mother picked the baby back up, and then you take that picture and you make it look like the kid is crying about Donald Trump's immigration policy.
00:10:40.000The idea that it's going to tell you anything about the working of a third grader's soul, again, unless they're torturing puppies or engaging in pathological behavior,
00:10:51.000Like, I love kids, but let's not pretend that third grade, like, I looked at you in third grade and I knew from that moment that you were destined to be the immigration leader in the United States.
00:11:07.000I'm going to read you the rest of the story in a second because it is so good.
00:11:19.000And when I say it is so good, I mean it is so intensely stupid.
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00:13:49.000And complete obsession with highly specific tasks that could only be performed alone.
00:13:54.000He was especially obsessed with tape and glue.
00:13:56.000Again, this is in one of the most prestigious political magazines in America.
00:14:00.000Along the midpoint of our desk, Steven laid down a piece of white masking tape, explaining that it marked the boundary of our sides and that I was not to cross it.
00:14:08.000The formality of this struck me as odd.
00:14:10.000I was a fairly neat kid, at least at school, and I had never spread my things to his side of the desk.
00:14:13.000Stephen, meanwhile, could not have been much messier.
00:14:15.000His side of the desk was sticky and peeling, littered with scraps of paper, misshapen erasers, and pencil mubs.
00:14:20.000If this adhesive division kept Stephen on his side of the desk, I was all for it, as unfriendly as it seemed.
00:14:24.000But instead, the tape became an attractive nuisance.
00:14:27.000Stephen picked at it with his fingernails, methodically, in a mixture of absentmindedness and what seemed like channeled hostility.
00:14:33.000You can sense how much he hated Mexicans by the way he was picking at the tape in third grade on his desk.
00:14:37.000Unbelievable, this guy's insight is just incredible.
00:14:40.000This process left, this process of effacement left a thin layer of sticky grime, not altogether dissimilar from the rest of Stephen's desk.
00:14:47.000He was grimy, he was disgusting in third grade.
00:14:50.000Stephen rubbed his fingers over this layer of grime, rolling it into little gray pellets until it too was gone.
00:14:56.000Then he applied a new piece of tape, along with a renewed warning that I was not to cross it.
00:15:00.000Don't rinse, but do repeat for months.
00:15:02.000When Stephen was not picking at the tape, he was playing with glue.
00:15:39.000Okay, there's another 400 words of this story.
00:15:42.000Okay, there's another 400 words of this story about Stephen Miller liking to play with tape and glue at age 8.
00:15:51.000Again, the Mueller investigation continues, right?
00:15:53.000This is the actual Mueller investigation, John Mueller's investigation into his time in third grade with Stephen Miller.
00:15:58.000Quote, invariably, Stephen succumbed to this urge before the glue fully hardened, at which point the prior game transformed into a new one, the game of spreading still viscous glue across the remainder of his hand.
00:16:08.000Then, once the glue dried, he picked it off in long strips, the glue pulling the skin on his palm outward as he tugged it with his other hand,
00:16:16.000with skin snapping back into place when each strip broke off.
00:16:19.000Still, the sticky adhesive beneath the strips of glue remained on his palm.
00:16:23.000So Stephen rubbed his hands together to produce more little gray pellets, which he collected and rolled together into a mound.
00:16:29.000This, in turn, was used to blot at and thereby clean, or perhaps dirty, his portion of the desk.
00:16:34.000Okay, now you might be thinking, okay, well, so where's, like, the actual meat, Uncle Eddie?
00:16:38.000Like, where's the actual meat of the story?
00:16:39.000When do we get to the part where Stephen Miller, like, kills cats in the backyard?
00:16:45.000That, for better or worse, is the full extent of my memory of Stephen that year at Franklin Elementary School in Santa Monica, California, where the sign out front reads, be a friend, not a bully.
00:17:06.000I heard stories about him from friends as we got older, but I wasn't around to witness things firsthand.
00:17:10.000I switched to a different school after sixth grade.
00:17:13.000What to make of this now, 25 years later?
00:17:15.000We were all grimy kids at some point, of course, with sticky hands and short attention spans, but it is at least poetic that Steven was bent on building a nonsensical wall even back then.
00:17:23.000A wall that had more to do with what lay inside him than what lay beyond.
00:17:29.000He thought he was trying to keep out the chaos of the world, when really, what he was looking for was a way to explain away the chaos on his own side of the desk.
00:17:37.000For that was where chaos had always been.
00:17:46.000Now, we won't find out until later that the Mueller investigation will end with an actual pee tape of Stephen Miller, you know, peeing his pants in third grade.
00:17:58.000Why wouldn't we trust people who decide that that is print-worthy?
00:18:01.000The National Enquirer wouldn't pay five cents for that piece.
00:18:04.000But Politico somehow thought, you know what?
00:18:07.000What people deeply need to... It's deeply important.
00:18:10.000People must know, people must know that Stephen Miller once took a piece of tape and put it across the center of his desk when he was eight years old, and then removed that piece of tape and liked to put glue on his hands and take it off, just like every other third grader in the history of the world since Elmer Glue was invented.
00:18:27.000No, it's just, yes, but why don't people trust me?
00:18:36.000That's all I've got, that's all I've got.
00:18:38.000I trust the media more now because I've read that story.
00:18:40.000Because now I know that deep in the recesses of Stephen Miller's mind is the little boy, that grimy little evil child who liked to take eraser nubs and stack them on his desks, who chewed on pencils, who liked to go over and grind his pencils, those giant pencils that fit in the palm of your hand in that little pencil sharpener that you used to actually have to hand grind like some sort of organ.
00:21:59.000So Stephanie Grisham, who is her spokesperson over at the White House, tweeted out, Today's visit with the children in Texas impacted FLOTUS greatly.
00:22:06.000If media would spend their time and energy on her actions and efforts to help kids, rather than speculate and focus on her wardrobe, she would get so much accomplished on behalf of children.
00:23:29.000The policy with regard to our border actually matters.
00:23:32.000Now, President Trump has it right when he rips into Democrats when he says, listen, what you really want is to release as many illegal immigrants as humanly possible.
00:24:01.000So when Trump says that Democrats don't want borders, and then the media says that's a lie, Cynthia Nixon pretty much just said out loud what you're not supposed to say out loud.
00:24:08.000They're being separated throughout this country by ICE.
00:25:44.000Now, the left has, of course, responded by saying that Trump is a uniquely evil individual.
00:25:48.000Cory Booker, who is just the most... I mean, if Cynthia Nixon was the most irritating member of the Sex and the City cast, Cory Booker is the most irritating person in the United States in politics.
00:25:58.000I mean, Cory Booker and his virtue signaling, he is just
00:26:01.000We just have to do this and stop doing this moral vandalism on our values that you see is going on that's just unacceptable.
00:26:28.000And it's barely English, but I guess the point is clear.
00:26:31.000And then Nancy Pelosi, a woman who is for aborting babies pretty much until you actually die as a full human being, like Nancy Pelosi is so pro-abortion that if you're 78 and you've been born for 78 years, she still thinks that there's a question as to whether your mom should be able to abort you.
00:26:45.000Nancy Pelosi, she says this right here is outside the circle of human behavior.
00:26:49.000It's outside the circle of human behavior.
00:27:21.000In 2014, to deal with the spike then, with the families, we did a number of things, including, by the way, working with the government of Mexico and obtaining their cooperation on securing their southern border.
00:27:34.000But we also expanded family detention.
00:27:37.000Which was, I freely admit, controversial.
00:27:42.000So it turns out that all of Trump's evil Nazi-esque policies, well, it turns out the reason that they are so evil and Nazi-esque is because the Obama administration was keeping families together in detention.
00:27:50.000And then a court said you have to separate the families, and then Trump abided by the court ruling.
00:27:54.000And now Trump is trying to reverse the court ruling, go back to the Obama administration policy, and he's getting ripped every step of the way.
00:28:00.000So in other words, he follows the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, he's evil.
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00:29:37.000Kieran says, I've recently been labeled alt-right on a very public forum by a notoriously pretentious SJW.
00:29:42.000My views are countercultural for a 21-year-old woman, considering I'm a lifelong conservative, but I am nowhere near alt-right.
00:29:48.000I am apparently anti-feminist, only third wave, racist, because I wouldn't announce your Arabs in open sewage tweet after recommending your show to said SJW, and opposed to all immigration.
00:29:56.000Facepalm, my parents were immigrants and a white nationalist, which is so far from truth, I didn't even know how to begin entertaining the debate, let alone his BS.
00:30:02.000How do I combat claims like this or argue with a liberal about anything without stooping intellectually?
00:30:10.000But as far as how you argue all of this stuff, first of all, I'd just like to note that that tweet that you reference in that email, Karen, I wrote an entire column explaining that tweet, and there were a bunch of follow-up tweets that explained that tweet.
00:30:22.000This is like 2010, circa 2010, so just to give a little context for that.
00:30:28.000The reality is that not every argument is worth having.
00:30:30.000Being labeled an alt-right personality by an idiot SJW on a public forum, you should make your statement, you should let it go at that, and then you shouldn't waste more of your time because the person's never going to admit they were wrong.
00:30:40.000You should determine in every conversation what the purpose of the conversation is.
00:30:44.000It works, by the way, in real life as well.
00:30:45.000Like, I try to determine whether a conversation is worthwhile here in the office, which is why I rarely deign to speak to those around me.
00:31:46.000I mean, I think there are a lot of radical movements that have had beneficial effects, even if their overall effect is a net negative.
00:31:52.000I would suggest that, you know, the idea that efficient vehicles were an outgrowth of the environmental movement I don't think is exactly correct.
00:31:58.000I think that efficient vehicles were an outgrowth of high gas prices in the 1970s and the fact that nobody wanted a clunker when there were going to be all of these escalating gas prices thanks to OPEC choking off the oil supply.
00:32:10.000This is why you see bigger cars on the road when gas prices are cheaper and smaller cars on the road when gas prices get more expensive.
00:32:16.000With that said, because the truth is that environmentalism, the only way that environmentalism can really make LED lights, for example, more fiscally feasible is by artificially raising the price of incandescent light bulbs.
00:32:27.000I kind of like incandescent light bulbs, to tell you the truth.
00:32:30.000But, you know, I do appreciate that radical movements, if you channel all of your efforts toward one particular end, sometimes you'll come up with a few good effects.
00:32:37.000It's not like everything that is associated with a movement I consider bad is bad.
00:33:18.000I mean, really, this is a priorities question, because the reality is, I think that it is unhealthy to humor the delusions of small children.
00:33:26.000If a five-year-old claims something that is factually untrue, I don't think that humoring that is worthwhile or good.
00:33:33.000My kids claim things that are untrue all the time and it is my job to disabuse them of those notions.
00:33:36.000Doesn't mean you have to be rude or terrible, but you have to check in with the camp because it's possible that the camp doesn't want to get sued or that you will be fired.
00:33:43.000So it really depends on, and if you're uncomfortable with this situation, maybe you ask to be moved out of this situation.
00:33:49.000Maybe you ask to counsel other kids, for example.
00:33:51.000Or you have one of your colleagues take over with regard to this kid because you feel that it's immoral to abide by the rules that are set by the camp.
00:33:58.000But as a general matter, I think it's immoral to treat five-year-olds with great respect when they say things that are actually delusional.
00:34:04.000And humoring delusion is not good for kids.
00:34:06.000Fully 80% of kids who have transgender feelings grow out of it by the time they reach young adulthood.
00:34:11.000Scott says, Hey Ben, do you ever feel guilty about the abuse you lay upon Knowles?
00:34:14.000If not, have you provided him a safe space away from the daily torment you inflict on him?
00:34:18.000No, I've never felt guilty about the abuse that you lay upon Knowles, just as I would never feel guilty about the abuse that I lay on Paul Potter, Kim Jong-un.
00:34:25.000I mean, there are just certain people who deserve abuse, and Knowles is one of them.
00:34:46.000Do you think that religion as a whole could experience a resurrection similar to that of Christ in the Bible, or are religious and communal groups doomed to decline in the years to come?
00:34:53.000I do think that religion as a whole is going to experience a resurrection, and I think that that is going to happen specifically because there's a great crisis of meaning that is happening in the West.
00:35:01.000People believe that their lives are purposeless, they believe that there is no actual goal to their life, there's no telos, there's no Greek
00:35:31.000Jeremy says, what is your take on Milton Friedman's negative income tax?
00:35:33.000It's not something I've heard you address and would love your take on it.
00:35:35.000So Milton Friedman's negative income tax, for people who don't know, is basically his suggestion that we cut checks back to people who are poor enough that they don't pay income tax.
00:35:47.000And his suggestion is that this should replace the welfare system.
00:35:50.000As a replacement for the welfare system, I would much prefer a negative income tax to the welfare system itself, because the welfare system is quasi-means-tested.
00:36:28.000It's not a violation of the Establishment Clause specifically because the Establishment Clause was designed to prevent the imposition of a specific religion on any human being.
00:36:43.000If, for example, it was mandatory from the government that you use God every time you went out in public, or that it was mandatory that you say under God in the Pledge of Allegiance, or that it was mandatory that you stand for God Bless America, or that it was mandatory to put your hand over your heart, anything that mandates that you worship God is against the Establishment Clause.
00:37:00.000There's nothing in the Establishment Clause, however, that says that government cannot prefer, in general, a religious outlook on life to a non-religious outlook on life.
00:37:08.000In the constitution that suggests this.
00:37:10.000In fact, if you go back to the original founding of the country, obviously there are prayers that were being given by people on a regular basis in the halls of Congress.
00:37:44.000There were states in the United States that actually had quasi-official religions.
00:37:48.000At the very beginning of the Republic.
00:37:49.000And then over time, that sort of drained away.
00:37:51.000I think it was a good thing that drained away, but it obviously, the Federal Constitution did not bar even state-sponsored religion, like specific sects of religion, in particular states in the United States originally.
00:38:02.000So, no, the Establishment Clause does not prevent you from saying, we trust in God on our coins or something.
00:38:07.000And if you really feel that badly about it, saying we trust in God on our coins, then I suggest that you investigate American history, in which God has played a pretty significant role.
00:38:13.000Cassandra says, Oh, there's so many of them.
00:38:21.000So I think that there's a great movie or miniseries to be made about John Brown, just because there's so much moral complexity with regard to John Brown.
00:38:27.000So John Brown is, if you remember from your Civil War history, John Brown
00:38:32.000Was the guy who was involved in something called Bleeding Kansas originally in 1856, 1857.
00:38:36.000There's something called Bleeding Kansas in 1854, 1856.
00:38:41.000Basically, what happened is that there was a bill in Congress called the Kansas-Nebraska Act, and it suggested that Kansas and Nebraska were going to be admitted as states to the Union, and the way that these states were going to be admitted as either free states or slave states
00:38:54.000Is there going to be a referendum held in these states as to whether the states ought to be slave states or free states?
00:38:59.000And what that led to was an enormous number of people rushing into these states in order so that they could vote specifically on the issue of slavery.
00:39:04.000Well, John Brown and his sons went to Kansas and they there engaged in acts of brutal violence against slaveholders who are also engaging in brutal acts of violence against people who are in favor of the freedom of these states.
00:39:16.000So he's involved in that, and then John Brown, of course, took a bunch of his sons and some former slaves, some ex-slaves, and he went to Harper's Ferry, Virginia, and he freed a bunch of slaves.
00:39:26.000He thought he was going to lead a slave uprising against slaveholders in Harper's Ferry, Virginia, and there he instead was basically surrounded in a bunkhouse, basically.
00:41:21.000He encouraged Muhammad Ali's ban to be removed so he could fight, and then he beat him in the first fight.
00:41:26.000But Muhammad Ali used that fight as a weapon against Joe Frasier.
00:41:30.000So he would go out in public and he started calling Joe Frasier a gorilla, and he suggested that Joe Frasier was a sellout, and that Joe Frasier, because Joe Frasier was very pro-America,
00:41:38.000That Joe Frazier was a bad guy, and the entire black community, or at least large segments of it, swung behind Muhammad Ali and against Joe Frazier, who five minutes beforehand had been a hero to many members of the black community.
00:41:49.000And that culture war extended all the way through the third Frazier-Ali fight in which — the thrill in Manila — in which Frazier and Ali basically went to war.
00:41:58.000And Frazier really — I mean, he said he wanted to kill Ali in the ring because he was so angry with Ali for having destroyed his legacy and for having
00:42:04.000Contributed to his his unpopularity in the black community.
00:42:07.000It's really fascinating Ang Lee was supposed to make a movie about all of this and Ang Lee did did not end up doing it I'm trying I think like this would make a good it wouldn't be along the lines what he normally does But I think that Peter Weir could do a really good job with something like this The guy who did Master and Commander and as far as the the Harper's Ferry story that the John Brown story Christopher Nolan would do an amazing bang-up job with that because he could do all sorts of flashbacks and time stuff would be really interesting okay, so
00:42:35.000Well, first of all, I just love that there is now a Space Force!
00:42:52.000I just hope that we can ship man crates up to Space Force.
00:43:50.000I was wondering what your opinion on the CIA intervention in Latin America is.
00:43:53.000I hear many claims about how this was true imperialism of the United States, even that it should be justified for affirmative action and open borders for people from those countries.
00:44:25.000But it also happens to be true that the dictatorships that existed in those regions, pretty in relatively short order, you know, speaking in terms of global timelines, devolved into something much more closely resembling Western democracy than states that fell to Marxist tyranny.
00:44:41.000And backing freedom movements against Marxist tyranny seems to me worthwhile.
00:44:45.000And even backing bad guys against Marxist movements very often ends up being worthwhile in the shorter run than it would be if you've got a Marxist regime running in place.
00:44:51.000I mean, Cuba's still being run in Marxist fashion.
00:45:04.000So the fact that we have a first-past-the-poll system, in terms of how our elections work, tends to bias toward a two-party system, because two people are usually going to be near the top of the list.
00:45:15.000And that means that if it's the first person past that poll wins, whoever has the most money and the most infrastructure is likely to have benefit.
00:45:22.000Michael says, Hey Ben, I'm a fan of the show.
00:45:23.000I know there's been a lot of criticism from the right and from President Trump on Jeff Sessions since he became AG.
00:45:27.000So my question is, what would be your grade for AG Sessions so far?
00:46:00.000And I think that it's too bad that people now think that all of these areas of government ought to be weaponized because the other side has weaponized them.
00:46:06.000Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.
00:47:15.000When people ask me, you know, what's a good piece for the introduction of people who don't like classical music into classical music, this is a great piece to recommend.
00:47:20.000The New World Symphony, from beginning to end, it's just terrific.
00:47:23.000Okay, time for a couple of things that I hate.
00:47:29.000So, the first thing that I hate is, you know, kind of in line with that music.
00:47:34.000Charles Krauthammer passed away yesterday, so Charles Krauthammer died.
00:47:36.000Truly, I think, the thought leader for an entire generation of people who are growing up on political commentary.
00:47:45.000I don't mean just that I grew up reading Charles Krauthammer as I got older.
00:47:48.000I mean that Charles Krauthammer helps you grow up.
00:47:50.000When you read Charles Krauthammer, you realize this is a person who examines all sides of issues.
00:47:54.000He was a nuanced writer and a nuanced thinker.
00:47:56.000He was somebody who really deeply thought about things.
00:47:59.000One of the things that was interesting about Krauthammer that I happen to know is that Krauthammer was not all that much into the daily headlines.
00:48:03.000I remember the first time that I met him was in his offices in Washington, D.C., along with some colleagues from Breitbart, where I was working at that point.
00:49:05.000If you read my early writing, it's a lot more provocateur-ish.
00:49:07.000And as you get older, you realize it's less worthwhile to be a provocateur and more worthwhile to try and be like Charles Krauthammer.
00:49:13.000Krauthammer was also a real craftsman of the word.
00:49:15.000He's somebody who really spent time on his writing, and you can read it.
00:49:18.000I mean, he had a real gift for making hard work seem as though it was easily written.
00:49:22.000If you read his stuff, it feels like this is so natural to read, but apparently he went over every column that he ever wrote something like 15 times.
00:49:29.000And you always got the impression that he thought things through.
00:49:32.000I remember, you know, if you didn't know what to think on an issue, he was somebody who you always read.
00:49:36.000And even if you disagreed with him, he was somebody who was making a great argument.
00:49:39.000He was also deeply intellectually curious.
00:49:41.000I remember the second time, I only met him twice.
00:49:42.000The second time that I met him, I met him over at the PragerU offices.
00:49:46.000And he was doing a video for PragerU about building the wall, actually, suggesting that President Trump was right when he said that we ought to build a wall on the southern border of the United States.
00:49:54.000And I was talking with him a little bit, and we were talking about, I guess healthcare was in the news at that point, and he asked me the distinction between the Australian healthcare system and the Canadian healthcare system.
00:50:04.000Now, both are nationalized healthcare systems, and there are some minor nuances to them that are different.
00:50:10.000Like in Canada, it's universal healthcare from top to bottom.
00:50:13.000In Australia, you are basically supposed to, you're incentivized to buy a private healthcare plan.
00:50:17.000But, you know, I will say that I felt insufficient in my answers, and I remember coming away thinking,
00:51:07.000Okay, so final thing that I hate today, and then we will break for the weekend so I Have to say do not people who get deeply invested in politicians.
00:51:18.000I can't go there politicians are just like a plumber there people who have a job and you get that deeply invested in politicians as the avatar of your emotions and the avatar of your feelings and the avatar of your values I think you're making a big mistake.
00:51:33.000Be invested in people not telling lies.
00:51:34.000But when you get deeply invested in, like, the personal travails of a particular political figure, I think that we're verging on something that's not great.
00:51:42.000So here's some video of some Trump supporters at a recent rally.
00:51:45.000And as I said, I mean, I started the show today by saying the media have been lying routinely about President Trump.
00:51:48.000So this is not about the media not lying about Trump.
00:51:50.000They do lie about Trump on a routine basis.
00:51:52.000But the sort of emotional response that people have to President Trump, it was true of Obama, too, on the left.
00:51:57.000I don't think it's healthy for any political leader.
00:51:59.000Family means a lot to us, so we have to do it.
00:52:43.000You may be upset that he got sacked, but, you know, this is part of the acceptable risk of the game, and I think that we all ought to be a little more tough-minded about our voting politicians on any side of the aisle.
00:52:51.000Okay, well, we will be back here on Monday with all the latest.