The Ben Shapiro Show - "If You Don't Back Gun Control, It's Because You Don't Care"

00:00:00.000 Another mass shooting rocks Colorado.

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00:00:05.000 And Democrats aren't done yet, calling for the end of the filibuster and adding states.

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00:01:52.000 Police arrested a suspect.

00:01:53.000 They didn't reveal his name or any details about the shooting.

00:01:55.000 At an evening news conference where Boulder Police Chief Maris Harreld fought back tears, Investigators had just begun sorting through evidence and witness interviews and didn't have details on a motive for the shooting at the King Soopers store in Boulder, which is about 25 miles northwest of Denver, home to the University of Colorado, according to Boulder County District Attorney Michael Dougherty.

00:02:13.000 He said this is a tragedy and a nightmare for Boulder County.

00:02:16.000 These were people going about their day doing their shopping.

00:02:18.000 I promise the victims and the people of the state of Colorado we will secure justice.

00:02:22.000 The attack was, according to the Associated Press, the seventh mass killing this year in the United States, following the March 16th shooting that left eight people dead at three Atlanta-area massage businesses, according to a database compiled by the Associated Press, USA Today, and Northwestern University.

00:02:35.000 And of course, it all depends on how you define mass shooting, because some definitions are like three people or more, some definitions are five people or more.

00:02:43.000 It follows a lull in mass killings during the pandemic in 2020, which had the smallest number of such attacks in more than a decade.

00:02:48.000 Which is mainly because people were locked inside their houses so people couldn't congregate, which meant it was more difficult to pull off a mass shooting.

00:02:54.000 This database tracks mass killings and defined as four or more dead, not including the shooter.

00:02:59.000 One of the reasons, by the way, that a lot of these statistical databases like to separate off mass shootings with four or more dead is because if they include three or more dead, then the numbers rise dramatically and the racial composition of the shooters goes dramatically differently.

00:03:12.000 Because it turns out there are a lot of gangland shootings that involve people who are killing two, three people.

00:03:18.000 And so the numbers change pretty radically.

00:03:20.000 You'll notice that mass shootings are always the excuse for gun control, but the deadly violence that happens in Chicago every single weekend, that is never the excuse for gun control.

00:03:28.000 Because again, this plays into the broader media narrative, which is that the big problem in America is white supremacy and America's systems of violence.

00:03:36.000 The slain officer was identified as Eric Talley, 51, who'd been with Boulder Police since 2010, according to Herald.

00:03:41.000 He went to the store after a call about shots fired, someone carrying a rifle.

00:03:44.000 He was, by all accounts, one of the outstanding officers of the Boulder Police Department.

00:03:48.000 His life was cut too short, it's already said, of Talley.

00:03:50.000 Identities of the other nine victims were not disclosed Monday night, as police were still notifying their family members.

00:03:56.000 Matthew Kirsch, acting U.S.

00:03:57.000 Attorney for Colorado, pledged the full weight of federal law enforcement to support the investigation.

00:04:02.000 Officers did escort a shirtless man with blood running down his leg out of the store in handcuffs.

00:04:06.000 Authorities would not say if he was, in fact, the suspect.

00:04:09.000 Officials have not said whether the suspect is the person who was taken from the shooting scenes at Foothills Hospital in Boulder, and the hospital is not releasing any more information.

00:04:16.000 Dean Schiller told the AP he had just left the supermarket when he heard gunshots and saw three people lying face down, two in the parking lot, one near the doorway.

00:04:22.000 He said he couldn't tell if they were breathing.

00:04:24.000 There was also video live-streamed on YouTube.

00:04:26.000 Which showed one person on the floor inside the store and two more outside on the ground.

00:04:30.000 And you can hear gunshots at the beginning of the video.

00:04:33.000 At one point, authorities said over the loudspeaker, the building was surrounded and you need to surrender.

00:04:38.000 Sarah Moonshadow told the Denver Post, two shots rang out just after she and her son, Nicholas Edwards, had finished buying strawberries.

00:04:43.000 She said she told her son to get down and then we just ran.

00:04:46.000 It's obviously just another horrific mass shooting.

00:04:50.000 And the media typically in these situations responds by suggesting, of course, that people who don't agree with their basic policy prescriptions are somehow unsympathetic to the victims in these sorts of situations.

00:05:02.000 Because you know that the next political move here, forever and always, will be a federal call for gun control.

00:05:08.000 Joe Biden has been looking for an excuse to push gun control for a little while here now.

00:05:12.000 He's been talking about gun control consistently for the last 10, 15 years.

00:05:16.000 He used to be somebody who's a little looser on gun control.

00:05:18.000 Now he is somebody who's much tighter on gun control.

00:05:19.000 He's been pushing for an assault weapons ban, all of the 1994 assault weapons ban that really had no impact on mass shootings in the United States.

00:05:25.000 He's been looking for that for quite a while.

00:05:27.000 So this will be used politically as a hook in order to push forward the gun control agenda.

00:05:35.000 And the media are gonna foster this by suggesting, of course, that if you don't agree with Joe Biden's agenda, it's because you don't care about the people who were killed.

00:05:42.000 It's a cheap political trick that is played during every tragedy.

00:05:45.000 That if you don't agree with my policy prescription, it's because you don't care about the people who have died or the people who have been victimized in any particular way.

00:05:52.000 And you can see the media already ramping up for this, right?

00:05:56.000 That if you say that the gun control measures that are likely to be pushed by the federal government are extraordinarily unlikely to prevent mass shootings.

00:06:04.000 In fact, virtually every gun control policy that's been pushed By the federal government has had no impact on mass shootings.

00:06:10.000 The number of guns in circulation in the United States has risen dramatically over the course of the last 15 to 20 years.

00:06:15.000 The number of people who have been killed in mass shootings year on year has actually been going down.

00:06:19.000 But that does not matter to the folks who push gun control.

00:06:23.000 And so their idea is you are unsympathetic to victims.

00:06:26.000 This has been a thing ever since I told Piers Morgan not to do it on CNN.

00:06:30.000 The reality is that you can be deeply sympathetic to people who have been harmed in any sort of crime and still recognize that bad policy does not solve the problem.

00:06:42.000 OK, but you can see that the media already setting the predicate.

00:06:44.000 So here on CNN was one of the reporters saying that this is just the way America is.

00:06:48.000 This is just it's unique to America.

00:06:50.000 This is how America is now.

00:06:51.000 Realistically speaking, America does have more absolute numbers of mass shootings than other countries.

00:06:57.000 But there are mass shootings in Australia.

00:06:58.000 There have been mass shootings in Norway.

00:07:00.000 If you were to look at the number of deaths per million from mass shootings, it's actually higher in some civilized countries than it is in the United States.

00:07:05.000 Nonetheless, again, the predicate here is that America is unique, that this problem is easily solved by a simple policy change, which, of course, it is not.

00:07:13.000 And the media are going to suggest that if you oppose that policy change, it's because you don't care about what just happened in Boulder, Colorado.

00:07:18.000 Here was CNN jumping on that within probably an hour of the shooting breaking.

00:07:22.000 A larger story here that may not be addressed today, but is one that we have to address in light of what happened in Atlanta, which is, are we facing a spring and summer of mass casualty events as we come out, as people congregate?

00:07:37.000 And that is something that the Biden White House will have to address as well.

00:07:40.000 Juliette, how can that be?

00:07:41.000 How can it be that after a year of basic quarantine in the country, the first thing we do as Americans is go back to mass shootings?

00:07:49.000 I mean, how can that be?

00:07:51.000 Okay, so again, the level of incredulity, I believe that's Allison Camerata over on CNN, the level of incredulity there, the notion that you are, how can it be that we as Americans are going, we as Americans aren't doing anything?

00:08:04.000 I didn't shoot anyone today, did you?

00:08:06.000 I didn't engage in a mass shooting.

00:08:07.000 In fact, as of yesterday, as far as I'm aware, there were some 330 million Americans who didn't engage in a mass shooting.

00:08:14.000 It's not as though everybody went out in the streets and started shooting guns in the air and then turned the guns on their fellow citizens.

00:08:19.000 There are 300 million guns in the United States.

00:08:22.000 There are over 100 million long guns in the United States.

00:08:25.000 Virtually none of them were used in a mass shooting yesterday.

00:08:28.000 But there was one used by somebody who was evil.

00:08:32.000 We don't know his name yet.

00:08:32.000 We don't know his motive yet.

00:08:34.000 So we have no insight into why this happened.

00:08:36.000 We have no insight into how the gun was obtained.

00:08:38.000 We just don't have any information as of yet.

00:08:39.000 That has not stopped the media from immediately setting the emotional groundwork for a gun control push.

00:08:43.000 And again, the emotional groundwork is that this is the norm in America.

00:08:46.000 This is what's regular.

00:08:47.000 And most Americans are fine with it.

00:08:48.000 Most Americans just turn a blind eye.

00:08:50.000 Casey Hunt at NBC News pushing the same sort of idea.

00:08:54.000 She's the Capitol Hill correspondent.

00:08:55.000 She tweeted out, I don't even know what that last part means.

00:08:57.000 A moral imperative to be better than what?

00:08:58.000 Nobody is saying that what happened in Colorado is decent, good, or should be something that we ignore.

00:09:02.000 Who is saying that?

00:09:02.000 Better than what?

00:09:03.000 Did you engage in a mass shooting yesterday?

00:09:04.000 or no reason. We have a moral imperative to be better than this. I don't even know what that last part means. A moral imperative to be better than what?

00:09:10.000 Nobody is saying that what happened in Colorado is decent, good, or should be something that we ignore. Who is saying that?

00:09:18.000 Better than what? Did you engage in a mass shooting yesterday? I didn't. This notion that all Americans are somehow okay or blasé about 10 fellow Americans being shot to death in a supermarket, including a police officer, and some of their blasé about that.

00:09:34.000 We can't just go back to our normal.

00:09:36.000 I don't believe that Casey Hunt is more sympathetic than you are, or than I am.

00:09:40.000 I don't believe that Casey Hunt is a deeper wellspring of emotion than you are, or than other normal Americans are.

00:09:47.000 I think all Americans are rightly outraged at the act of evil that we saw yesterday in Boulder, Colorado.

00:09:53.000 But again, the media are setting the groundwork, and the groundwork is that when Joe Biden comes out and makes an emotional pitch for gun control, if you don't believe that that gun control is truly Well calibrated toward reducing risk and preserving rights, then this means that you just don't care, right?

00:10:08.000 You're not better than this, in the words of Casey Hunt.

00:10:11.000 Right, you shouldn't normalize.

00:10:14.000 Nobody's normalizing anything.

00:10:16.000 But this is the same game that our media play, and it really is kind of an emotionally manipulative game.

00:10:21.000 That if you don't agree with what they want, it means you're a bad person.

00:10:25.000 That is the subtle argument that is being made here.

00:10:27.000 It's not a particularly subtle argument in reality.

00:10:29.000 Some people are less subtle even than that.

00:10:31.000 Mary L. Trump, who is famous only because her last name is Trump, and has made a bajillion dollars off of writing a book about how much she doesn't like Donald Trump.

00:10:38.000 So Mary L. Trump tweeted out, The NRA is a terrorist organization and should be treated as such.

00:10:45.000 Do we have any evidence that this particular person was an NRA member?

00:10:49.000 Or that the NRA fostered his behavior?

00:10:51.000 Or that the NRA trained him for this behavior?

00:10:54.000 And by the way, what exactly is that suggestion?

00:10:55.000 If the NRA is a terrorist organization, then presumably we should round up all the members and put them in Gitmo.

00:11:00.000 If the NRA is a terrorist organization, what?

00:11:01.000 We're going to go around... Does Joe Biden now have the capacity to just drone American citizens who happen to believe in the Second Amendment?

00:11:09.000 So little of this is rooted in anything remotely resembling a policy debate.

00:11:15.000 If you want to make a case for specific pieces of legislation that would mitigate mass shootings, or shootings at all, while actually preserving Americans' fundamental right to defend themselves and defend their property and defend their rights, then bring it forth!

00:11:31.000 But this is the big problem.

00:11:32.000 Barack Obama used to admit this all the time.

00:11:33.000 He used to say, sure, the legislation we're now bringing forward on gun control wouldn't have stopped this shooting, but it might stop other shootings.

00:11:40.000 Might.

00:11:41.000 OK, well, if it wouldn't stop this shooting, then why are you talking about this piece of legislation on the back of this particular act of evil?

00:11:49.000 They recognize the game before it's being played because I promise you this is going to be the narrative over the course of the next couple of weeks as Joe Biden immediately shifts into gun control mode.

00:11:57.000 He's immediately going to shift into gun control mode.

00:11:59.000 The media are going to shift along with him because they don't want to talk about what's happening on the border because that, of course, is a Biden-fostered crisis.

00:12:05.000 And so they're immediately going to shift with Joe Biden into gun control talk.

00:12:09.000 And the implication is going to be those evil obstructionist Republicans, if only they would just go along with the gun control agenda, then all of this would stop.

00:12:17.000 And if they don't go along with it, it's because they wish to normalize, in the words of Casey Hunt, what just happened in Colorado.

00:12:22.000 Again, no one is normalizing acts of evil.

00:12:25.000 That is not something that any fellow American is doing.

00:12:27.000 And if you're imputing to fellow Americans that they literally don't care about people getting shot in a supermarket in Colorado, we shouldn't share the same country.

00:12:33.000 If you truly believe That your fellow Americans do not care about innocents being gunned down in a supermarket?

00:12:39.000 Then you're living next to people who are evil.

00:12:41.000 And you shouldn't be sharing a town with them.

00:12:43.000 You shouldn't be sharing a church with them.

00:12:44.000 You shouldn't be sharing a country with them.

00:12:47.000 But that is the underlying emotional play that is being made here by your delightful mainstream media.

00:12:52.000 Alrighty, in just a second, we're gonna get to the situation on the border, which continues to just marinate and get worse day after day.

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00:14:08.000 Okay, so, Meanwhile, the situation on the border continues to get worse and worse, and this is driven explicitly at this point by Joe Biden's terrible policy.

00:14:17.000 According to Axios, the Biden administration kept a Trump-era policy known as Title 42 as a tool to quickly turn back adults and families who illegally crossed the southern border.

00:14:25.000 But according to new Department of Homeland Security data leaked to Axios, it has not been used at all for families.

00:14:32.000 So Trump had a policy.

00:14:33.000 If you show up on the border, We force you to remain in Mexico while we adjudicate your case.

00:14:38.000 You can apply for asylum in Mexico.

00:14:40.000 You can't cross the border and just disappear into the interior.

00:14:43.000 And that was Title 42.

00:14:45.000 But DHS now says that if you arrive as a family, they're not going to do that.

00:14:49.000 In fact, the data shows an average of just 13% of nearly 13,000 family members attempting to cross the U.S.-Mexico border were returned to Mexico between March 14th and March 21st using the public health order, which essentially says the U.S.

00:15:01.000 can close the border to non-essential travel because of the COVID virus.

00:15:05.000 It's a sign of how the administration is struggling to keep up with the migration surge and has recently been hamstrung by Mexico's inability to take in more families the U.S.

00:15:12.000 would otherwise expel.

00:15:13.000 Well, actually, it is not a sign of how the administration is struggling to keep up with the migration surge.

00:15:17.000 It's a sign of how they are unwilling to keep up with the migration surge.

00:15:20.000 They're saying, let everybody in.

00:15:22.000 The same administration that tells you that Florida is terrible because it's wide open and COVID's gonna spread and we're all gonna die and keep masking up, they're not even using the coronavirus pandemic to reject people at the border that we have not tested for COVID.

00:15:35.000 That's how ridiculous and incoherent this administration's policy is.

00:15:39.000 The other 87% won't remain in the U.S.

00:15:42.000 indefinitely according to Axios, but they will be allowed into the U.S.

00:15:45.000 to go through immigration proceedings, which means they will stay in the U.S.

00:15:47.000 indefinitely.

00:15:49.000 Proceedings can take years.

00:15:51.000 The DHS spokesperson said, well, you know, one week of stats doesn't reflect the full picture.

00:15:55.000 Our policy remains that families are expelled, and in situations where expulsion is not possible, they are placed into removal proceedings.

00:16:02.000 White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki says the process of deporting those families sometimes, quote, takes a minute to ensure there's proper transportation and steps in place to do that.

00:16:09.000 No, what's happening right now is that you guys have decided that you are just going to let a ton of people in.

00:16:16.000 And Joe Biden has incentivized all of this.

00:16:18.000 It is perfectly clear at this point.

00:16:21.000 The good news, though, is that Kamala Harris is happy about it, apparently.

00:16:25.000 So Kamala Harris was asked whether she's going to go visit the border.

00:16:27.000 She's not, by the way.

00:16:28.000 Kamala Harris apparently is now going to visit Florida.

00:16:31.000 She tweeted out yesterday, help is here.

00:16:33.000 She put out a tweet, help is here.

00:16:35.000 She wasn't landing at the border.

00:16:36.000 She was landing in Florida.

00:16:38.000 Guess what, Vice President?

00:16:39.000 We don't need you here.

00:16:41.000 In fact, the great success of the state of Florida is because we have explicitly rejected everything you could have possibly recommended.

00:16:46.000 You're from California, the state that I rejected because they went entirely the wrong direction.

00:16:51.000 Do not come here and bring your crappy policy here.

00:16:54.000 The state of Florida voted against Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for a reason.

00:16:59.000 And it's because they reject the kind of policy... Help is here.

00:17:01.000 Help is here, says Kamala Harris.

00:17:03.000 Yes, we desperately in Florida need the help of Kamala Harris, an incompetent senator who couldn't get 0% in a California primary before she was plucked out of obscurity, thanks to the fact that Joe Biden wanted a black female for his vice president.

00:17:15.000 We need her help, desperately.

00:17:17.000 So she arrives in Florida, and she then is asked about whether she's going to head down to the border.

00:17:23.000 And she breaks out the joker laugh, which makes perfect sense, because this is super funny stuff, guys.

00:17:27.000 Do you have plans to visit the border?

00:17:29.000 Um, not today.

00:17:34.000 But I have before and I'm sure I will again.

00:17:40.000 Where is the Batman?

00:17:44.000 She's got the worst, I mean, that's a bad nervous tic.

00:17:46.000 A lot of people have nervous tics.

00:17:49.000 That is a bad one.

00:17:50.000 She's asked a difficult question and she starts cackling.

00:17:53.000 You're like, oh my God.

00:17:54.000 You wonder why the Democratic Party needs to wheel around a not fully sentient, not fully alive human as President of the United States, because all that stands between Kamala Harris, a terrible, awkward, horrific politician in the presidency, is that old man.

00:18:09.000 That's why they have to just keep pretending that everything is fine in Biden-land, because here is the thing.

00:18:14.000 Kamala Harris, as the face of this policy, looks very, very different, not because of race or gender, but just because she's terrible at this, than Joe Biden does.

00:18:21.000 Okay, in any case, the situation on the border, again, continues to be bad.

00:18:24.000 The media were barred from these migrant facilities, where we now have a multiple of people who are being kept and housed.

00:18:32.000 But footage did leak from inside the migrant facilities.

00:18:35.000 Project Veritas got a hold of some of the footage.

00:18:38.000 Here's what that looked like.

00:18:40.000 Project Veritas has obtained never-before-seen photographs of what it actually looks like inside this facility.

00:18:48.000 Shocking images showing people wrapped up in what looks like metal foil, laying on the ground, their faces covered.

00:18:57.000 Why won't the administration be honest about this?

00:18:59.000 Why won't they show you these images?

00:19:02.000 We have now obtained these photos inside this facility.

00:19:07.000 Now these photos are very, very grim.

00:19:09.000 Project Veritas has also learned these photographs were taken in the last few days.

00:19:14.000 Okay, so if you actually could see the photos, this is why you should subscribe so you can see the photos.

00:19:19.000 If you actually see the photos, they're astonishing.

00:19:21.000 I mean, honestly, it looks like a bunch of people wrapped in aluminum foils lying down inches from one another.

00:19:28.000 Inches.

00:19:29.000 You want to talk about a COVID super spreader event?

00:19:32.000 This would be what that looks like.

00:19:34.000 And they are being put... Don't worry, those are not kids in cages, guys.

00:19:37.000 This is Happy Fun Time Camp with Joe Biden.

00:19:40.000 It's all great over there.

00:19:41.000 Everything's fine.

00:19:42.000 According to the Biden administration, not a crisis.

00:19:44.000 And also, everybody should keep coming, but also they should stay away, because it's awkward right now.

00:19:47.000 But also, the media shouldn't be allowed in, because if they see those pictures, then it might be bad for the administration.

00:19:53.000 Even CNN, finally catching on, they say, um, yeah, it turns out that we now have migrant children who are essentially staying in jail cells.

00:19:59.000 Here with CNN finally doing its job.

00:20:02.000 You have more kids coming into U.S.

00:20:04.000 custody, but just not enough space to put them in shelter.

00:20:08.000 So that means that these kids are staying in Border Patrol facility for prolonged periods of time.

00:20:12.000 And those are facilities that are not intended for them.

00:20:15.000 They look like jail-like conditions, like prison cells with concrete walls and concrete benches.

00:20:20.000 And these kids are spending more than the three-day limit than they're supposed to, according to federal law.

00:20:26.000 So the administration racing here to find enough space for these kids that is suitable for them.

00:20:31.000 Okay, yeah, are they racing?

00:20:32.000 Are they racing, though?

00:20:33.000 Because I feel like they're not racing so much.

00:20:35.000 And I feel like if they wanted to make sure that kids were not along the border, they would reject families at the border, which apparently they're not doing.

00:20:41.000 Because it turns out families generally have kids, but they're not rejecting the families.

00:20:46.000 They've fostered this border crisis, and every single person knows it.

00:20:50.000 In fact, NBC's Steve Gutierrez said that migrants say they are now being encouraged by the Biden administration.

00:20:57.000 We have spoken with several migrants over the last several days, Andrea, both on this side of the border and over in Mexico, in Matamoros, Mexico, that said that they were encouraged by the change in administration.

00:21:09.000 Many of them didn't know the specifics of President Biden's border policies, but what they did know is that he was not President Trump, and some of them did feel that now would be the time to come to the border.

00:21:21.000 So actually, that's Gabe Gutierrez.

00:21:23.000 Sorry about the first name scrub.

00:21:24.000 Gabe Gutierrez, the NBC News correspondent at the border.

00:21:27.000 Fully saying that these migrants are arriving and they are saying they're doing so because of Biden.

00:21:31.000 But don't worry, according to the administration, it's not because of Biden.

00:21:34.000 Everything is totally fine.

00:21:36.000 Now the media are finally beginning to catch on to all of this.

00:21:39.000 The media are beginning to pretend to care.

00:21:42.000 So the media have decided that they don't like the fact that there is now lack of border access.

00:21:46.000 Which is good!

00:21:47.000 I'm glad that they have woken up to the problem that is the lack of transparency inside the Biden administration.

00:21:52.000 So here are some of the members of the media beginning to have questions for the Biden administration about why you won't let us in.

00:21:58.000 Here's Katie Tour from NBC News saying that the lack of border access is somewhat disturbing.

00:22:04.000 Well, yeah, it is.

00:22:06.000 The Biden administration kept talking about transparency, and we're not getting any transparency here with what is happening at the border, that we have to get those images from a congressman who won't say where he got those images.

00:22:18.000 It's very frustrating for not just journalists, but for the American public who want to know what's going on inside those facilities, those disturbing images.

00:22:26.000 Okay, so Katie Ture calling it out.

00:22:28.000 Jake Tapper of CNN now calling it out.

00:22:31.000 Today we saw this rare look inside these facilities, since the Biden administration has not granted news media access to the facility, citing COVID restrictions, despite the president's promise in his inaugural address to always level with you.

00:22:45.000 Blocking access to the news media is not leveling with the American people, Mr. President.

00:22:49.000 Yeah, they're not leveling with the American people.

00:22:51.000 They're refusing to release statistics.

00:22:53.000 And by the way, who are you going to believe, the administration or your own eyes?

00:22:56.000 Jen Psaki said literally yesterday that as these pictures were emerging of these kids sleeping directly next to each other, and adults, by the way, sleeping directly next to each other in large numbers inside what looked like essentially plastic bubbles, she said, don't worry, we're following all the CDC guidelines.

00:23:10.000 Oh, are you?

00:23:11.000 It looked super safe over there.

00:23:14.000 These kids are tested.

00:23:16.000 If they need to be quarantined, they are quarantined.

00:23:18.000 We also follow CDC guidelines to ensure that they are kept safe.

00:23:22.000 One of the reasons that it took us some time to have some of these facilities or some of the shelters open to larger groups of kids is because we wanted to follow those CDC guidelines.

00:23:33.000 But where else in the country would it be okay to have 400 people in a space for 260 during the pandemic?

00:23:41.000 Well, again, Peter, we're closely following the CDC guidelines.

00:23:46.000 No, you are not.

00:23:48.000 You really, really, really are not.

00:23:50.000 You have said that kids cannot be in schools.

00:23:53.000 Kids can't be in schools if they are three feet or less apart.

00:23:58.000 But you are keeping these kids inches from one another, and it's totally fine.

00:24:02.000 Which suggests this is not really about COVID on the one hand, and also they just don't want to do anything about the immigration problem.

00:24:07.000 According to the Washington Post, over the last three weeks, the average number of teenagers and children crossing into the United States without parents has topped 550 per day.

00:24:15.000 Border officials are on pace to take in more than 17,000 minors this month, which would be an all-time high.

00:24:21.000 This is obviously a crisis.

00:24:24.000 Biden has had a markedly different approach than his predecessors to an influx of homelands that Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said was on pace to be the largest in the last 20 years.

00:24:34.000 20 years.

00:24:35.000 So far, they're just adding capacity to shelters and other facilities to absorb the influx, declining to implement policies that would send minors back because the administration considers the policies morally unacceptable, which means they want this to happen.

00:24:46.000 That is their goal.

00:24:47.000 Which suggests that it's all about the agenda.

00:24:49.000 It's all about the political agenda.

00:24:51.000 Just keep letting illegal immigrants into the country and everything will be fine.

00:24:56.000 And by the way, this is the same administration that said if you come after January 1st, we're not going to simply amnesty you.

00:25:01.000 Does anyone believe that?

00:25:01.000 Including the illegal immigrants who are crossing the border?

00:25:04.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden's plans grow ever more grandiose.

00:25:04.000 Of course not.

00:25:07.000 Apparently, Joe Biden wants to blow $3 trillion more dollars.

00:25:11.000 $3 trillion more dollars.

00:25:13.000 So we're already inflating the currency beyond all measure because sooner or later, somebody has to pay for this crap.

00:25:17.000 We just paid for $2 trillion of spending.

00:25:20.000 For no reason at all, because we are already coming out of the pandemic.

00:25:23.000 Now, Biden wants to spend another $3 trillion.

00:25:26.000 This time to quote, boost the economy, reduce carbon emissions and narrow economic inequality.

00:25:32.000 Ahem.

00:25:33.000 According to the New York Times, it's going to start with a giant infrastructure plan that might be financed in part through tax increases on corporations and the rich.

00:25:40.000 Yeah, that's not going to have any impact.

00:25:41.000 You're going to take all the corporations that have to rehire everybody right now, and you are going to tax them in order to pay for roads that largely should be done through the state and local level.

00:25:51.000 After months of internal debate, Biden's advisors are expected to present the spending proposal to the president and congressional leaders this week, as well as begin outreach to industry and labor groups. Industry and labor groups are the key here. When you wonder why Biden wants to spend trillions of dollars on this stuff, it's because he wants to quote, quote, create good union jobs.

00:26:06.000 The goal is to pay off big labor, because the most corrupt open bargain in American politics is that our Democratic friends, they pay off the unions.

00:26:13.000 The unions then take that money and pour it back into campaigns so that Democrats can be elected to pay off the unions.

00:26:18.000 It's the most open corruption in American politics, and it's been going on for decades.

00:26:23.000 Administration officials caution the details remain in flux, but the enormous scope of the proposal highlights the aggressive approach the Biden administration wants to take as it tries to harness the power of the federal government to make the economy more equitable, address climate change, and improve American manufacturing and high-technology industries in an escalating battle with China.

00:26:41.000 I always love when the New York Times quote-unquote reporting reports they want to make the economy more equitable.

00:26:45.000 What the hell does that mean?

00:26:47.000 Equitable is a mush word.

00:26:48.000 It is a word that means whatever the Biden administration wants it to mean.

00:26:52.000 What it really means is that they don't care about growth rates, they care about redistribution of income.

00:26:56.000 And when they say they're going to address climate change, question, what policy here is calibrated to addressing climate change?

00:27:03.000 If the United States were to go carbon neutral right now, it would lower the climate by estimates about 0.2 degrees Celsius by the end of the century.

00:27:13.000 So what in the world is he talking about?

00:27:16.000 The $1.9 trillion economic aid package Biden signed into law this month includes money to help vulnerable people and businesses survive the pandemic downturn, but it does little to advance the longer-term economic agenda.

00:27:25.000 Oh, um, so that's a lie.

00:27:27.000 The economic agenda is completely tied in to the billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars in that package that are designed at creating a new welfare net for people without any requirements as to their behavior.

00:27:39.000 According to Seth Hanlon, Senior Fellow at the Center for American Progress, President Biden's plan represents a stunning shift in priorities addressing many of the nation's most pressing challenges.

00:27:48.000 The plan is super wide-ranging, reflecting the fact we've under-invested in so many areas.

00:27:52.000 Under-invested in so many areas, we are spending $4 trillion a year before the pandemic.

00:27:57.000 Last year, we spent something like $7 trillion, and that doesn't count the Fed spending, which was another several trillion dollars.

00:28:03.000 And now, we've already got the $4 trillion budget that's gonna pass this year.

00:28:06.000 Plus another $2 trillion package, and you want to add another $3 trillion on top of that.

00:28:09.000 So you're talking about $9-10 trillion blown into the economy by the Biden administration this year.

00:28:14.000 You think that's not going to lead to runaway inflation?

00:28:16.000 Get ready, gang.

00:28:17.000 It's coming over the next couple of years.

00:28:18.000 Right now, we can survive it because the economy has been artificially depressed.

00:28:22.000 But what happens when the prices increase?

00:28:25.000 And because we owe so much money, we still have to have these dollars in circulation.

00:28:30.000 What happens then?

00:28:32.000 Stagflation is a real thing.

00:28:34.000 It has happened in multiple economies.

00:28:35.000 And pretending that what goes up does not come down cannot be the hallmark of your economic policy if you actually care about growth, which apparently they don't.

00:28:43.000 Right now, the White House officials say they want to focus on the infrastructure stuff.

00:28:48.000 That plan would spend heavily on clean energy deployment and the development of other high-growth industries of the future, like 5G telecommunications.

00:28:55.000 It includes money for rural broadband.

00:28:57.000 Advanced training for millions of workers, by the way.

00:28:59.000 These advanced training programs, I wish they were successful.

00:29:01.000 I wish it were just as easy for somebody losing a job to get trained for another job and stick them in a government program.

00:29:06.000 It doesn't work that way.

00:29:07.000 These programs are not particularly successful.

00:29:09.000 One million affordable and energy-efficient housing units.

00:29:13.000 I don't think those are going to be affordable.

00:29:15.000 Not for the American people.

00:29:16.000 If by affordable you mean that we're going to subsidize government housing in a time when the economy is going to be booming, then good luck with that.

00:29:24.000 Officials have discussed offsetting some or all of the infrastructure spending by raising taxes on corporations, including increasing the 21% corporate income tax rate and a variety of measures to force multinational corporations to pay more tax in the United States on income they earn abroad.

00:29:39.000 So they're gonna punish corporations for success, even as they attempt to rehire Americans who've been put out of work by the pandemic.

00:29:46.000 Sounds perfect.

00:29:46.000 We were at 3.5% unemployment before the pandemic, and your goal is now to reach, is now to quote-unquote, build back better by completely shifting the basis of the United States economy that had been at historic highs before the pandemic.

00:29:58.000 Don't worry, it'll all be fine.

00:30:00.000 So they're just gonna keep blowing out the spending, no matter what.

00:30:03.000 They wanna raise the top marginal tax rate to almost 40% from 37%.

00:30:08.000 They want to change the tax rates.

00:30:12.000 And by the way, it's going to bleed down into lower tax brackets.

00:30:14.000 According to the New York Times, one question is how to apply Mr. Biden's campaign promise that no one earning less than $400,000 a year would pay more in federal taxes under the plan.

00:30:22.000 Currently, the top marginal income tax rate starts at just about $500,000 for individuals and about $600,000 for couples.

00:30:29.000 Biden proposed raising that rate during the campaign.

00:30:32.000 But here's the problem.

00:30:34.000 They've debated whether to lower the income threshold for the top marginal tax rate to tax all individual income above $400,000 at 40% in order to raise more revenue for his spending plans, and they're going to raise a bunch of taxes that do impact people making less money than that, because when you tax corporations, you're inherently taxing a bunch of people who make less than $400,000 a year.

00:30:52.000 But don't worry, it doesn't stop there.

00:30:53.000 The Democrats are now pushing forward on their plans to kill the filibuster.

00:30:57.000 Which would, in essence, mean ramming through every radical policy proposal you could imagine.

00:31:01.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:32:13.000 Alrighty, in just one second, we're gonna get to the Democrats attempting to kill the filibuster.

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00:32:54.000 So just as it is with gun control, if you disagree with the left, it means that you are in some way unsympathetic or evil.

00:33:07.000 Well, when it comes to every element of the Democratic agenda, that is basically the pitch.

00:33:11.000 So now the new pitch by Democrats is we need to get rid of the filibuster and we need to make Washington, D.C.

00:33:16.000 a state.

00:33:17.000 Okay, so we've got Hillary Clinton out there saying it's time to dump the legislative filibuster.

00:33:22.000 No.

00:33:23.000 No, it's not.

00:33:24.000 But now the case by Democrats is basically that the legislative filibuster is a racist tool, which is weird because Barack Obama used it repeatedly when he was a senator.

00:33:31.000 The Democrats used it repeatedly to shut down, for example, a police reform bill from the black Senator Tim Scott from South Carolina, who happens to be a Republican.

00:33:38.000 So filibusters are only racist, apparently, when Republicans use them.

00:33:42.000 Here is Secretary Clinton making the case.

00:33:45.000 I think we need to bring back a real legislative process.

00:33:48.000 If you thought you had to actually stand up and vote on something, you'd actually work to get an amendment to change it.

00:33:55.000 As opposed to saying, I don't even have to think about it, I'm just going to show up and I'm going to be part of a filibuster.

00:34:01.000 That doesn't inspire cooperation, it just keeps people in their separate camps.

00:34:07.000 I think it's going to take a little bit of change in order to get to where people have to work together.

00:34:12.000 And surprisingly, in my own mind, I think, you know, getting rid of the filibuster will actually have that result.

00:34:18.000 That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

00:34:19.000 So now she's saying that getting rid of the filibuster will create bipartisanship.

00:34:22.000 In what way?

00:34:23.000 Seriously, in what way?

00:34:25.000 The Democrats just passed a $2 trillion package with no Republican support.

00:34:28.000 None.

00:34:29.000 Okay?

00:34:30.000 And they did that because they didn't have to have a filibuster, right?

00:34:34.000 It was filibuster-proof.

00:34:35.000 They could just do it with a simple majority.

00:34:38.000 They could do it with 50 votes plus Kamala Harris.

00:34:40.000 So, what in the world is she talking about?

00:34:42.000 The case that Democrats usually make is that the filibuster is racist, even though it has been a piece of procedure that has been in place and used by both parties for centuries at this point.

00:34:52.000 Nonetheless, Erwin Chemerinsky is now calling, the professor formerly of USC, he is now calling for Vice President Kamala Harris to simply declare the filibuster unconstitutional.

00:35:03.000 He says, in 1957, Vice President Richard Nixon, sitting as presiding officer of the Senate, issued two advisory opinions, holding that a crucial provision of the Senate's filibuster rule, requiring two-thirds vote to amend it, was unconstitutional.

00:35:14.000 Nixon's constitutional determination was reaffirmed by subsequent VPs Hubert Humphrey and Nelson Rockefeller.

00:35:19.000 In fact, it was this ruling that allowed both the Democratic-controlled Senate in 2013 and the Republican-controlled Senate in 2017, by simple majority vote, to eliminate filibusters for all executive and judicial nominees.

00:35:29.000 Harris possesses the same exact power.

00:35:32.000 Which essentially establishes a 60-vote supermajority rule, the filibuster.

00:35:36.000 She could say it's unconstitutional because it denies states equal suffrage in the Senate in violation of Article 5 of the Constitution, which is absurd.

00:35:43.000 Okay, the Senate can come up with its own procedures.

00:35:46.000 The notion that the Senate, that the states are denied equal suffrage because you need a supermajority to pass things, you could bring the same exact complaint against the other areas requiring supermajority consent, including, for example, impeachment.

00:36:00.000 It takes two-thirds of the Senate in order to greenlight an impeachment.

00:36:04.000 Is that denying?

00:36:05.000 Is the Constitution itself unconstitutional?

00:36:10.000 Everyone agrees the text of the Constitution does not allow for simply giving California more senators than Wyoming, says Erwin Chemerinsky, nor can the Senate's lack of representative fairness be cured by adopting internal Senate voting rules.

00:36:20.000 But that doesn't mean the Senate has authority to create even more unfairness than already exists.

00:36:25.000 In fact, Article 1 of the Constitution doesn't allow a broad 60-vote supermajority rule.

00:36:30.000 Okay, again, this is ridiculous.

00:36:32.000 The Senate has the ability to make its own rules.

00:36:34.000 Now, would it be a good idea for Kamala Harris to simply overthrow the filibuster in a time of high political polarization and division in the United States?

00:36:41.000 It would be about the dumbest thing she could do.

00:36:43.000 If she did that, I will tell you what the predictable result of all of this is going to be, as Democrats surge forth with a more and more radical program with fewer and fewer people supporting it.

00:36:50.000 What this is going to look like, as opposed to a bipartisan compromise, what this is going to look like is states beginning to say, you passed it, now enforce it.

00:36:59.000 If you really want to pass it, you can try to enforce it, but we're not helping you.

00:37:02.000 Not one iota.

00:37:05.000 We're just going to become sanctuary states where people actually still have constitutionally guaranteed freedoms.

00:37:10.000 Doesn't mean we're going to use armed opposition to stop the feds from doing things.

00:37:14.000 It does mean that you are going to have to enforce this sucker yourself.

00:37:17.000 That is what you're going to start getting very, very quickly.

00:37:20.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats really want to get rid of the filibuster because, number one, they want to completely destroy the system of voting in the United States by violating, by the way, the Constitution.

00:37:28.000 So they want to get rid of the filibuster so they can violate the Constitution by federalizing all voting procedures which were not delegated to the federal government under the Constitution of the United States.

00:37:36.000 H.R.

00:37:36.000 1 is a crap show.

00:37:38.000 It is a horribly written bill that dramatically increases the possibility of voter fraud and dramatically undermines the ability of anybody to believe in the voting system of the United States.

00:37:46.000 And this is coming from somebody who doesn't believe that the last election was decided by voter fraud and irregularity.

00:37:50.000 You want to make sure that every future election is in doubt?

00:37:53.000 Make sure you pass H.R. 1.

00:37:55.000 It's not just that.

00:37:56.000 Now the Democrats are pushing to simply add new states.

00:38:00.000 So notice the pattern here.

00:38:01.000 Erwin Chemerinsky is now claiming that we should get rid of the filibuster because it's unfair.

00:38:06.000 Because it treats states unequally.

00:38:09.000 And they need to do that so they can add states.

00:38:12.000 So they can completely overthrow the bargain that the states currently have by adding with a simple majority vote states like the District of Columbia.

00:38:19.000 So Democrats want to add D.C.

00:38:20.000 as a state because they want two additional senators.

00:38:23.000 The claims that are being made by the Democrats, of course, are that if you oppose D.C.

00:38:27.000 statehood, this is because you are, of course, racist.

00:38:29.000 Ayanna Pressley, the Ringo star of the squad, she came out and she said, D.C.

00:38:34.000 statehood is a racial issue, of course, because everything's a racial issue.

00:38:37.000 Every single thing.

00:38:37.000 Here she was.

00:38:39.000 There have been only two black elected governors in the history of this country.

00:38:43.000 Massachusetts had one of them, Deval Patrick.

00:38:46.000 Now, in more than 230 years, only two black governors.

00:38:50.000 I'm gonna make it plain.

00:38:52.000 statehood is a racial justice issue.

00:38:52.000 D.C.

00:38:57.000 And racism kills.

00:38:58.000 And I don't just mean police brutality and hate crimes and food apartheid systems and transportation deserts and unequal access to healthcare.

00:39:07.000 I mean all of that, too.

00:39:09.000 But racism kills our democracy.

00:39:11.000 Okay, so it is racist not to make D.C.

00:39:15.000 a state because we need to appoint people to governorships based on race.

00:39:20.000 That's the case she's making.

00:39:21.000 Racism is bad because we need black people to be governors.

00:39:27.000 Now, I seem to remember that the Vice President of the United States is a black woman.

00:39:33.000 And I seem to remember that the President of the United States was a black man for eight years.

00:39:37.000 And the Attorney General of the United States was black.

00:39:40.000 And the Secretaries of Homeland Security and the current Secretary of Defense is black.

00:39:48.000 But according to Ayanna Pressley, We need to make D.C.

00:39:52.000 a state that will have a black governor.

00:39:53.000 Her assumption, of course, is that D.C.

00:39:56.000 will have a black governor because there's a heavy black population in D.C.

00:40:00.000 Which, again, is kind of racist.

00:40:01.000 The notion that black people only vote for black people.

00:40:04.000 By the way, not really true.

00:40:05.000 Because, again, black people did not vote for a black person in the primaries.

00:40:08.000 They voted for Joe Biden in the Democratic primaries.

00:40:10.000 But in any case, you know why D.C.

00:40:12.000 is not a racial issue?

00:40:13.000 Because it has long been held, since like the foundation of the country, that the District of Columbia should not be under the auspices of any state.

00:40:21.000 Because if you have a state, that means the seat of the federal government is now in hock to the states.

00:40:26.000 That's not a racial issue.

00:40:28.000 It can't be a racial issue because at the time, no black people could vote, okay?

00:40:32.000 At the foundations of this country, black Americans were stopped from voting by racist policy.

00:40:38.000 So the notion that the Federal District of Columbia was prevented from being a state because white people were afraid of black people gaining power is an absurdity, historically speaking, and it also happens to contravene the explicitly stated intent of making the Federal District of Columbia federal in the first place.

00:40:53.000 Federalist 43, James Madison, fully explains why the District of Columbia is a federal district.

00:40:59.000 He says, if it were not, then the federal government would then be in hock to the state.

00:41:07.000 It would create a dependence on the members of the general government on the state, comprehending the seat of government for protection in the exercise of their duty.

00:41:13.000 Might bring on the national councils an imputation of awe or influence equally dishonorable to the government and dissatisfactory to the other members of the Confederacy.

00:41:20.000 In other words, D.C.

00:41:22.000 would be seen to be running the federal government, as opposed to the federal government being D.C.

00:41:27.000 This consideration has the more weight as the gradual accumulation of public improvements at the stationary residence of the government would be both too great a public pledge to be left in the hands of a single state and create so many obstacles to a removal of the government as still further to abridge its necessary independence.

00:41:41.000 The extent of the federal district is sufficiently circumscribed to satisfy every jealousy of an opposite nature.

00:41:47.000 Again, this goes all the way back to the foundation of the country.

00:41:49.000 The notion that this is racially based is ridiculous on its face, but again, it's not about any of that.

00:41:53.000 It's about America's bad unless you give me what I want.

00:41:55.000 Rashida Tlaib says it explicitly.

00:41:57.000 She says, America is an authoritarian system unless D.C.

00:42:00.000 is a state.

00:42:02.000 This kind of language about the country that allows for immigrants to the United States to become members of Congress regularly, it is quite an astonishing thing.

00:42:13.000 I mean, Rashida Tlaib is one of the great beneficiaries of America's systems of freedom and meritocracy.

00:42:18.000 And yet, here she is saying that America's racist because D.C.

00:42:21.000 isn't a state.

00:42:23.000 In opposing D.C.

00:42:24.000 statehood, which is overwhelmingly supported by the people of Washington, these representatives and their dark money backers over the Heritage Foundation, that's right, are telling over 700,000 Americans to sit down, shut up, and enjoy this authoritarian system implemented by a bunch of elites who thought it was okay to enslave people for their selfish monetary gain hundreds of years ago.

00:42:47.000 It is shameful that anyone would claim to support democracy and freedom and oppose statehood.

00:42:53.000 You can't even support democracy and freedom and oppose D.C.

00:42:55.000 statehood.

00:42:56.000 And that's what she thinks of the American founders.

00:42:57.000 All they were were slaveholders.

00:42:59.000 It's amazing stuff there from Rashida Tlaib.

00:43:02.000 But this is the Democratic Party.

00:43:03.000 The Democratic Party is not going to stop anytime soon.

00:43:05.000 They believe they are on the ascent.

00:43:06.000 They're on the rise.

00:43:07.000 They're in the ascendancy.

00:43:09.000 They're going to...

00:43:11.000 The future of the United States is an authoritarian left bootstamping on your face forever.

00:43:15.000 That's what this is.

00:43:15.000 And they're going to do so by killing the filibuster.

00:43:18.000 They're going to do so by changing the voting rules.

00:43:19.000 They're going to do so by incentivizing illegal immigration.

00:43:22.000 And they're going to do so by cowing you into silence by leveraging the power that they have institutionally in order to shut you up.

00:43:29.000 That is the future of the country over the next few years.

00:43:31.000 There's only one thing you can do to stop that, and that is don't shut up and don't acquiesce to their ridiculous suggestion that if you disagree with them, this makes you somehow morally deficient, which is an absurdity on its face.

00:43:41.000 Because I'll tell you what, this agenda is morally deficient.

00:43:44.000 Alrighty, we will be back here later today with an additional hour of The Ben Shapiro Show coming up soon.

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"If You Don't Back Gun Control, It's Because You Don't Care" | Ep. 1221

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