Ben Shapiro breaks down the latest in the ongoing saga of Joe Biden and the Ukraine scandal, and why it's time for the United States government to get to the bottom of it. He also explains why it would be a good idea for the government to investigate Joe Biden for his alleged involvement in a bribery scandal involving his son, Hunter Biden, and a company he had a relationship with in Ukraine. And he explains why he thinks Joe Biden should be impeached if it's proven that he conspired with the Ukrainian government to try to get rid of a corrupt prosecutor who was investigating him and his son. Plus, President Trump heads to the UN to confront Iran and climate change, and passions run high while solutions run low. Ben Shapiro is the host of The Ben Shapiro Show on Fox News Radio and host of the conservative podcast, The Daily Wire. He is also a regular contributor to The Weekly Standard and The Daily Caller. His work has been featured in the New York Times, USA Today, and The Huffington Post, and many other publications. He is a frequent contributor to conservative publications and blogs, including The Daily Beast, and is widely respected by conservative publications. He has a regular radio show on SiriusXM Radio and the Weekly Standard, and hosts a show on the conservative radio show The View from Los Angeles radio station on WHYY in the early morning radio show, where he also hosts a weekly show on conservative radio talk show on weekends and radio show in the late night newscast, The View. on the airwaves. and radio station in the morning show on CBS Radio in New York City, and his new book, "The View From the Ground Zero." and on the radio show "The Weekly Standard" on the Hill Street Report, which he founded and hosts the podcast "The Street Report." The Street Report in Washington, D.C. in addition to his new website and podcast on the podcast, The View From The Avenue in Los Angeles, New York Magazine, and on social media, and also on The Hill, and travels the streets of San Francisco, California, and elsewhere in Europe, and in other places in the Midwest and the Caribbean. His new book is out in the UK, and New York, and he is a podcast in the South Africa, and has a blog in the Bay Area, and the Midwest, and everywhere else in the Pacific Coast, he does it all in the Southeast Asia, and does it's all over the Midwest.
00:00:19.000A lot of it coming from the United Nations, which is indeed a horrible place.
00:00:22.000It is the most eyesleeve international politics, a hive of scum and villainy.
00:00:26.000And the fact is that I'm not in favor of eminent domain in the UN as a government building.
00:00:30.000But if President Trump were to declare for any reason, including corrupt reasons, that the United Nations building ought to be Pursued by the Trump Corporation under eminent domain, torn down and replaced with the Trump Tower, I'd be in favor of it.
00:00:43.000I mean, frankly, if they want to turn it into a nuclear waste depository, I'm in favor of it.
00:00:47.000You will see why today as we discuss all of the myriad wonderful activities happening at the UN.
00:00:53.000We'll get to that in just a little bit.
00:00:54.000But first, President Trump Continues to dig a hole.
00:01:00.000And the first rule of holes, of course, is to stop digging.
00:01:03.000Well, yesterday, President Trump sort of went back and forth and back and forth on these Ukraine allegations.
00:01:08.000So, just to review, to bring you up to date, when last we left our riveting story on this episode of Downton Abbey.
00:01:15.000The President of the United States had a call with Ukraine.
00:01:18.000The call with Ukraine involved the President asking the government of Ukraine to look into investigating and prosecuting Hunter Biden and or Joe Biden for a relationship that Hunter Biden had in 2016 with a company called Burisma, which is an oil and gas company in Ukraine.
00:01:34.000The only reason Hunter Biden had this slot at Burisma is because his daddy is Joe Biden, because Hunter Biden has never actually earned a job.
00:01:41.000Just a few months earlier, he had been kicked out of the Navy for drug use.
00:01:44.000I mean, there had been serious problems with Hunter Biden, and yet he was getting these very rich jobs.
00:01:50.000So he gets this job over at Burisma, and the prosecutor, there's a prosecutor named Shokin over in Ukraine, he starts looking into this.
00:01:56.000Well, it turns out this guy Shokin also had a significant record of corruption.
00:02:00.000So Joe Biden, who's vice president at the time, is openly calling on the government of Ukraine to fire this prosecutor.
00:02:06.000Now, the question is, was he calling on Ukraine to fire the prosecutor because the prosecutor was looking into the corporation where his son was?
00:02:14.000Or was Biden doing that because, in general, That prosecutor was corrupt.
00:02:35.000Every other tweet from President Trump is about how someone should investigate Netflix for the Obama deal.
00:02:40.000Someone should investigate Saturday Night Live for the FCC.
00:02:43.000Somebody should investigate my underwear.
00:02:45.000President Trump constantly wants investigations of people.
00:02:49.000And so him getting on the line with someone being like, can you investigate something?
00:02:52.000That's not necessarily a violation of law.
00:02:54.000It's just the president being the president, which is not good.
00:02:57.000You don't want the president of the United States talking to foreign leaders and asking them to investigate American citizens as a general rule.
00:03:04.000But it's also a manner of degree rather than a difference in kind with past activities by prominent politicians.
00:03:10.000As we've mentioned over the past week, in 2016 Hillary Clinton explicitly worked with the Ukrainian government, the DNC explicitly worked with the Ukrainian government at the Ukrainian embassy to try and dig up dirt on Paul Manafort, who was then Donald Trump's campaign manager because Manafort was allegedly working with the Russians and with the former Ukrainian regime of Viktor Yanukovych.
00:03:29.000So that was Hillary Clinton engaging in that sort of politics.
00:03:32.000Barack Obama in the lead up to 2012 was caught on a hot mic telling Dmitry Medvedev, who was a front man for Vladimir Putin, that he was going to offer Putin and Russia flexibility in exchange for Russia sort of backing off before the election.
00:03:43.000So Trump saying to Ukraine, it'd be great if you could investigate Biden.
00:03:47.000It's a difference in degree, not a difference in kind.
00:03:50.000Now what would make it a difference in kind is if this was connected to taxpayer dollars.
00:03:55.000Meaning that if Donald Trump had said to Ukraine, I'm withholding your military aid unless you investigate Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, that would be an impeachable offense.
00:04:05.000It would look a lot like what Trump is accusing Biden of.
00:04:08.000Because Trump is accusing Biden of essentially trying to bribe the government of Ukraine to get rid of a prosecutor looking into his son.
00:04:15.000Now, in that particular case, Biden has claimed, and the evidence seems to be on his side, that Shokin, the prosecutor, was deeply corrupt, that he was ousted for corruption, and that the fact that this prosecutor was looking into Biden's son was sort of just coincidental.
00:04:29.000And that may make you suspicious, but the fact is that when you have a lot of interlocking parts, and when you have a son who is working internationally in politics, and using your name to get around, there are going to be some conflicts of interest.
00:04:40.000Or at least apparent conflicts of interest.
00:04:43.000So Biden's claim looks a lot like Trump's claim today.
00:04:45.000So Trump is saying, listen, now I had withheld Ukrainian aid, but the reason I was holding Ukrainian aid is because I was in general concerned about corruption in Ukraine, and then finally those fears were quelled, and then I gave the aid.
00:04:58.000But it didn't have to do specifically with them investigating Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.
00:05:02.000Now, the case in favor of that is that Ukraine did not investigate Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, and Trump unlocked the aid.
00:05:08.000And he unlocked the aid before any of this story broke.
00:05:11.000So if it was an explicit quid pro quo, or even an implicit quid pro quo, you would expect that Trump would not have released the aid.
00:05:17.000So that is going to be his defense here.
00:05:19.000But the fact that the aid was being discussed at the same time that Trump was pressing the Ukrainian president to investigate his chief political opponent domestically, that is leading to a lot of, I think, well-founded suspicions.
00:05:32.000Just as the right is suspicious that Joe Biden was using his leverage In order to knock off a prosecutor in Ukraine in favor of his son, the left is suspicious for exactly the same reasons that Trump was threatening to withhold military aid from Ukraine in pursuit of Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.
00:05:49.000So the AP reported yesterday, President Donald Trump ordered his staff to freeze nearly $400 million in aid to Ukraine a few days before a phone call in which he pressured the Eastern European nation's leader to investigate the family of political rival Joe Biden, a revelation that comes as more Democrats move toward impeachment proceedings.
00:06:06.000Now, people are going to look at the timing here, and they're going to say the timing is really suspicious.
00:06:15.000If the president says, let's withhold aid to Ukraine, and then he gets on the line with Ukraine, and the first thing he says is, Can you investigate my political opponent, guys?
00:06:22.000But the fact is that Ukraine probably was not top of mind for Trump, right?
00:06:27.000If you're his defense lawyer, what you're going to argue is Ukraine, like you think Trump walks around thinking about Ukraine all day?
00:06:34.000And the fact is that probably somebody came to him and said, should we give aid to Ukraine?
00:06:37.000And he was like, nah, I'm not, let's wait to see if they're corrupt.
00:06:40.000And then on the phone call, he just does what Trump does, right?
00:06:42.000He just freewheels and he talks about Biden and all this stuff.
00:06:45.000And then, without getting any commitment from the Ukrainians to go after Biden or Hunter Biden, then he releases the aid.
00:06:52.000So if there's a quid pro quo, then where's the quo?
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00:08:35.000Okay, so the AP reports that Trump, in remarks to reporters at the UN on Tuesday, confirmed that he held up the aid, but he said he did so to fight corruption and urge European nations to share in helping out Ukraine.
00:08:47.000He said, as far as withholding funds, those funds were paid.
00:08:52.000He says, my complaint has always been, and I'd withhold it again, and I'll continue to withhold until such time as Europe and other nations contribute to Ukraine.
00:08:58.000Now that obviously does fit with Trump's broader overall pattern of saying things like people aren't paying their fair share in NATO, and so we might withhold aid until NATO nations start paying more for their own defense.
00:09:08.000He suggested that Germany and France put in money.
00:09:11.000And then he used the moment to again suggest the Biden family inappropriately benefited from their ties to Ukraine.
00:09:18.000So, President Trump, you know, he went off on the press over all of this.
00:09:22.000He was over at the United Nations, and he took the time to rip into, not Fredo, Chris Cuomo on CNN for his coverage.
00:09:29.000I don't watch CNN because it's fake news, but I watched Rudy take apart Fredo.
00:09:41.000The press doesn't give him credit because they take little tiny snippets Wherever Rudy was a little bit... If he mispronounces a word, they'll show that.
00:09:52.000Rudy Giuliani took Fredo to the cleaners.
00:09:55.000Okay, and he's talking about the exchange between Rudy Giuliani, Trump's personal lawyer, and not Fredo, we won't call him Fredo, apparently it's a racial slur, not Fredo, Chris Cuomo, over on CNN in exchange in which Rudy Giuliani sort of reversed himself and admitted within 30 seconds that he had actually, that Trump had actually spoken with the Ukrainian president about the possible prosecution of Joe Biden.
00:10:15.000So a little bit more information on this withholding aid issue, because again, the quid pro quo is the criminal question here.
00:10:21.000So according to the Washington Post, President Trump And this would be Karen Demirjian, Josh Dowsey, Ellen Nakashima, and Carol Lennig on it, so you can see that they're taking this pretty seriously, putting four reporters on the story.
00:10:32.000President Trump told his acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, to hold back almost $400 million in military aid for Ukraine, at least a week before a phone call in which Trump is said to have pressured the Ukrainian president to investigate the son of former VP Joe Biden, according to three senior administration officials.
00:10:47.000Officials at the Office of Management and Budget relayed Trump's order to the State Department and the Pentagon during an interagency meeting in mid-July.
00:10:54.000According to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, they explained that the president had concerns and wanted to analyze whether the money needed to be spent at all.
00:11:04.000Administration officials were instructed to tell lawmakers the delays were part of an interagency process but give them no additional information, a pattern that continued for nearly two months until the White House released the funds on the night of September 11th.
00:11:17.000So now the Washington Post is reporting something that looks like they're trying to portray this as a cover-up, right?
00:11:22.000I mean, that is obviously what they're saying.
00:11:24.000That they're trying to say it wasn't solely up to Trump.
00:11:26.000It was an interagency process and all the rest, which would be suspicious.
00:11:30.000I mean, frankly, if the president was saying I want to withhold the aid, but let's call it an interagency process.
00:11:37.000Trump's order to withhold aid to Ukraine a week before his July 25th call with Zelensky is likely to raise questions about the motivation for his decision and fuel suspicions on Capitol Hill that Trump sought to leverage congressionally approved aid to damage a political rival.
00:11:50.000Now, Kellyanne Conway, spokesperson for the White House, she was on TV this morning and she confirmed that President Trump did withhold the money from Ukraine, but she maintains that it had to do with generalized corruption in Ukraine and not having to do with exerting leverage over Ukraine to go after Biden.
00:12:05.000The Washington Post had a broken story yesterday afternoon that said that the president told Mick Mulvaney to hold the money, $391 million in Ukrainian military aid, before he talked to the president, the new president of Ukraine.
00:12:19.000Is that how you believe it all happened?
00:12:21.000Yes, the president in terms of the president wanted to talk to him first, make sure that this person who the new president who won in the landslide on the anti-corruption agenda was actually going to execute on that and keep the promises of his presidential elective platform.
00:12:36.000OK, well, the left is going to say, well, and the way that Trump achieved his confirmation that this was an anti-corruption platform is by getting Zelensky to pledge to prosecute Biden.
00:12:49.000So here's the problem with that particular narrative, at least so far as we know, given the information.
00:12:53.000The Ukrainian president has completely denied that he gave Trump the okay.
00:12:57.000So in other words, he never said to Trump, according to the Ukrainian president Zelensky, that he was going to prosecute Biden.
00:13:02.000So if the logic is Trump said Trump withholds aid for a week, and then he has a call with Zelensky to determine whether he is anti-corruption, but secretly to determine whether he'll go after Biden.
00:13:12.000And then he says, You know, I want to make sure you're not corrupt, but in order for me to determine that, are you prosecuting by any chance Joe Biden?
00:13:20.000And then Zelensky says yes, and then Trump releases the aid.
00:13:35.000Again, I'm just operating off the evidence that I've been given.
00:13:37.000If the evidence changes, then I will change my opinion.
00:13:39.000But that's the evidence that is in place right now.
00:13:42.000Republican senators on the Senate Appropriations Committee said September 12th that the aid to Ukraine had been held up while the Trump administration explored whether Zelensky, the country's new president, was pro-Russian or pro-Western.
00:13:52.000They said the White House decided to release the aid after Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois threatened to freeze $5 billion in Pentagon funding for next year unless the money for 2019 was distributed.
00:14:01.000Okay, so now what Democrats are going to claim is that Trump didn't actually want to release the aid, that he wanted to continue holding it over Ukraine, and it was only Dick Durbin threatening a larger funding freeze for the Pentagon that caused Trump to let it go.
00:14:13.000In other words, there are two plausible narratives.
00:14:17.000And we don't know the answer to this yet, which is why I'm sure there will be a congressional investigation.
00:14:24.000I, as an American, want more information on what happened here.
00:14:27.000I do not want the President of the United States of either party threatening to withhold aid to countries based on them investigating domestic political opponents.
00:14:58.000And on the left, they would say, well, the only reason you released the aid is you did so in spite of the fact that you didn't want to.
00:15:04.000You wanted to hold it over Zelensky, but Dick Durbin made trouble for you, and so you decided to release the aid.
00:15:10.000One senior administration official said Monday that Trump's decision to hold back the funds was based on his concerns about there being a lot of corruption in Ukraine, and that the determination to release the money was motivated by the fiscal year's looming close on September 30th.
00:15:22.000So, the Trump administration making an alternative case.
00:15:25.000We didn't do it because of Dick Durbin.
00:15:26.000It's because all of the money has to be released by September 30th.
00:15:28.000We had to give it an up or a down, and so we gave it an up.
00:15:32.000There is concern within the administration that if they did not spend the money, they would run afoul of the law, the official said, noting that eventually, Trump did give the OMB's acting director, Russell Vought, permission to release the money.
00:15:42.000The official emphatically denied there was any link between blocking the aid and pressing Zelensky into investigating the Biden, stating it had nothing to do with a quid pro quo.
00:15:50.000So the actual source, the actual source for the Washington Post, or at least one of their key sources, is openly saying this was not a quid pro quo.
00:15:58.000But Democrats are pushing forward anyway.
00:16:02.000Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader, he is, you know, obviously pushing back with the narrative that the Trump administration is providing him.
00:16:08.000Listen, I mean, he should know, and McConnell obviously should know something about the spending of this money, considering that the Senate did have oversight of the spending of this money.
00:16:18.000Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader, said yesterday that it's regrettable that Chuck Schumer is politicizing this issue.
00:16:23.000I've been disappointed to see our colleague, the Democratic leader, choose to politicize the committee's ongoing efforts.
00:16:29.000with respect to a recent whistleblower allegation, the specific subject of which is still unknown.
00:16:37.000I believe it's extremely important that their work be handled in a secure setting with adequate protections in a bipartisan fashion.
00:16:45.000It is regrettable that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Schiff and Senator Schumer have chosen to politicize the issue.
00:16:54.000Okay, well, the Democrats are responding by saying, "Well, it doesn't even matter." Now they're shifting the goalposts.
00:16:59.000The goalpost was until five seconds ago.
00:17:01.000Adam Schiff saying, was there a quid pro quo?
00:17:03.000Now the Democrats are shifting the goalposts saying, Even if there was no quid pro quo, Trump even asking is a method of quid pro quo.
00:17:10.000So Senator Chris Murphy says, I don't think it really matters whether the president explicitly told the Ukrainians they wouldn't get their security aid if they didn't interfere in the 2020 elections.
00:17:18.000There's an implicit threat in every demand that a United States president makes of a foreign power.
00:17:22.000That foreign country knows that if they don't do it, there are likely to be consequences.
00:17:28.000Because there's a difference between a quid pro quo using American taxpayer dollars and a head of state asking another head of state for an official action.
00:17:36.000You may not like him asking for the official action, but head of states do this a lot and they do it with domestic political considerations in mind.
00:17:43.000President Obama was asking the Iranians, basically, for an Iranian nuclear deal in advance of the 2016 election for political reasons domestically, as well as in terms of foreign policies.
00:17:53.000That's too broad an argument from Senator Murphy, although I do sympathize with the general sentiment that when a president exerts pressure, he should be very careful, which is why I think there is a difference between what Trump did being bad and what he did being criminal.
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00:19:29.000Mike Pence came out after all of this and he says, okay, well, you guys keep talking quid pro quo.
00:19:34.000Well, how about the Biden quid pro quo?
00:19:36.000And again, herein lies the great parallel between what Biden is suspected of doing by Republicans and what Trump is suspected of doing by Democrats.
00:19:44.000And so far, there's no evidence that Biden actually engaged in a corrupt quid pro quo with the Ukrainian government.
00:19:49.000And so far, there is no actual evidence that Trump engaged in a corrupt quid pro quo with Ukraine.
00:20:02.000And most of the time, they're not as bad as they look, but they look really ugly in the moment, which is why good politicians try to avoid this sort of stuff.
00:20:09.000Here's Mike Pence pointing out, guys, I mean, if you're talking quid pro quo, then you actually do have to talk about Joe Biden, who is suspected of doing exactly the same thing.
00:20:17.000You are now accusing, I mean, like exactly the same thing, withholding aid to Ukraine in exchange for a personal benefit.
00:20:23.000That is exactly the accusation Trump is making of Biden and the exact accusation that Democrats are making of Trump.
00:20:29.000So far, there's insufficient evidence for either charge.
00:20:31.000Here's Mike Pence, though, trying to turn this on its head and go after Joe Biden.
00:20:37.000He said to Ukrainian officials that you will not get over a billion dollars in American aid unless you fire a prosecutor who just happened to be investigating a company that Vice President Biden's son was on the very board of.
00:20:53.000Apparently with no background in oil, gas, or energy.
00:20:57.000The American people have a right to know.
00:21:01.000Okay, so again, that's the allegation that Republicans are making of Biden, and the evidence is thus far insufficient.
00:21:12.000And it is the accusation that Democrats are making of Trump, and thus far the evidence is insufficient.
00:21:16.000Now, Chris Murphy, Who is indeed a motivated actor is claiming that the Ukrainians came away with the impression that there was a requested quid pro quo.
00:21:24.000So Murphy, who spoke with Zelensky, this is according to the Washington Post, during an early September visit to Ukraine, said on Monday that the Ukrainian president directly expressed concerns at their meeting that the aid that was being cut off to Ukraine by the president was a consequence of his unwillingness to launch an investigation into the Bidens.
00:21:40.000But that is not what Zelensky has said publicly.
00:21:44.000There's also been some talk today that former National Security Advisor John Bolton wanted to release the money to Ukraine because he thought it would help the country while curtailing Russian aggression.
00:21:52.000But Trump has said he was primarily concerned with corruption.
00:21:55.000Now, again, that may be smoke that turns out to be nothing, meaning that Bolton I mean, I know John Bolton.
00:22:01.000Of course John Bolton wanted to release the aid to the Ukrainians.
00:22:04.000John Bolton is extraordinarily anti-Russian.
00:22:06.000He sees that the Ukrainian government needs to resist Russian-backed militias in places like Crimea, as well as in the southeast of the country.
00:22:15.000And the fact is that If Donald Trump had serious corruption concerns about Ukraine, he would withhold that.
00:22:20.000I mean, there was open... John Bolton got fired, right?
00:22:22.000I mean, so there was open conflict between Bolton and Trump over a wide variety of Bolton's hawkish issues.
00:22:28.000That does not speak directly to the question of corruption.
00:22:32.000Trump keeps telling reporters the same thing.
00:22:34.000He said, it's very important to talk about corruption.
00:22:36.000If you don't talk about corruption, why would you give money to a country you think is corrupt?
00:22:40.000Besides Bolton, several other administration officials told the Washington Post they did not know why the aid was being canceled or why a meeting was not being scheduled.
00:22:48.000The decision was communicated to state and defense officials on July 18th.
00:22:51.000Officials familiar with the meeting said, by mid-August, lawmakers were acutely aware that the Office of Management and Budget had assumed all decision-making authority from the defense and state departments and was delaying the distribution of the aid through a series of short-term notices.
00:23:04.000Several congressional offices questioned whether the OMB had the legal authority to direct federal agencies not to spend money that Congress had already authorized.
00:23:11.000Spokespeople for the Pentagon and State Department have declined to comment.
00:23:15.000Mid-August is the time when a whistleblower from the intelligence community filed that complaint regarding Trump and Ukraine to the intelligence community inspector general, Michael Atkinson.
00:23:24.000Atkinson informed the House and Senate Intelligence Committees of the complaint's existence on September 9th.
00:23:29.000That is the same day that three House committees launched an investigation to determine whether Trump and his lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, had improperly pushed Ukraine to investigate the Bidens.
00:23:37.000So, if you're going to look at that timeline, two days after that complaint was made clear to the Congress that it existed, the aid to Ukraine was released.
00:23:45.000So, I'm not going to blame anybody for being suspicious here.
00:23:49.000I mean, I see why you would be suspicious.
00:23:51.000I'm also going to say that so far the evidence is insufficient to conclude that this wasn't a generalized question of Trump not wanting to hand over aid to Ukraine, but was in fact Trump trying to hold back aid in order to motivate the Ukrainian government to go after Joe Biden.
00:24:09.000In just a second, we're going to get to the effect of all of this, because Democrats may end up split on all of this, given the impeachment momentum and the direction in which that is moving.
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00:25:56.000Okay, so the momentum for impeachment among the Democrats is growing and some of the some of the I would say edge Republicans are wavering.
00:26:06.000Mitt Romney of Utah, who of course has never been a friend to President Trump, he suggested that Trump should make available the whistleblower complaint that has been deemed to be credible and urgent.
00:26:16.000I think it'd be very helpful to get to the bottom of the facts.
00:26:18.000If they don't, it'll be up to the House to decide how to proceed.
00:26:21.000And frankly, I don't disagree with Mitt Romney.
00:26:25.000I am a public citizen of the United States.
00:26:27.000I would like more information on this phone call.
00:26:29.000And Trump has agreed to release the transcripts.
00:26:31.000Now, as I say, I think it's weird that the Democrats are now asking for the whistleblower complaint as opposed to the underlying phone call transcript that they are presumably worried about.
00:26:42.000They don't want the primary material, they want the secondary material.
00:26:44.000You know, when you do a historical research project, there are primary materials, that'd be like the actual historical document, and then there are secondary materials, which are a summary of the historical document.
00:26:53.000Why wouldn't you wanna see the actual historical document, namely the transcript of the phone call between Trump and Zelensky, as opposed to seeing the whistleblower complaint, which is apparently secondhand, because the whistleblower didn't even have firsthand knowledge of the call between Trump and Zelensky.
00:27:08.000Nonetheless, Democrats are openly talking impeachment now.
00:27:12.000According to Breitbart, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi will convene the Democratic caucus at 4 p.m.
00:27:17.000Eastern Daylight Time on Tuesday to discuss whether to impeach President Donald Trump.
00:27:21.000This is a new development reported by the Washington Post congressional correspondent Rachel Bade on Monday evening.
00:27:26.000It comes in the wake of reports late last week that Trump encouraged Ukrainian officials to reopen inquiries into the business dealings of former Vice President Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden.
00:27:37.000Now, Republicans are gonna kick back simply because they're gonna say, okay, so you're gonna impeach Trump on the basis of the information that has not yet been fully garnered, and yet you're not willing to do the same about Joe Biden.
00:27:49.000Like, you're fully willing to dismiss all the complaints about Joe Biden, and the complaints are exactly the same, that you used your government position to withhold aid to Ukraine in benefit for, in one case, in benefit for Hunter Biden, in the other case, to investigate Hunter Biden.
00:28:03.000So, do you guys have enough information yet is gonna be the Republican response to all of this.
00:28:08.000But apparently they're going to meet today to talk about impeachment.
00:28:11.000And seven freshman Democrats have now written a letter to the Washington Post openly calling for impeachment.
00:28:16.000These representatives are Gil Cisneros of California, Jason Crow of Colorado, Chrissy Houlihan of Pennsylvania, Elaine Luria of Virginia, Miki Sherrill of New Jersey, Alyssa Slotkin of Michigan, and Abigail Spanberger of Virginia.
00:28:27.000Now, Spanberger is kind of notable because Spanberger is considered one of the more moderate Democrats.
00:28:31.000So this means that the impeachment effort is moving mainstream inside the Democratic House Caucus.
00:28:36.000Apparently, the current count of Democrats who are willing to countenance impeachment is up to near 160.
00:28:43.000So they are definitely moving in that direction.
00:28:45.000According to the Washington Post, In this letter, they say, our lives have been defined by national service.
00:28:51.000We are veterans of the military and of the nation's defense and intelligence agencies, which is why these seven Democrats are being now put out front.
00:28:58.000Said our service is rooted in the defense of our country on the front lines of national security.
00:29:02.000We have devoted our lives to the service and security of our country.
00:29:05.000And throughout our careers, we have sworn oaths to defend the constitution of the United States many times over.
00:29:09.000Now, we join as a unified group to uphold that oath as we enter uncharted waters and face unprecedented allegations against President Trump.
00:29:17.000The President of the United States may have used his position to pressure a foreign country into investigating a political opponent, and he sought to use U.S.
00:29:24.000taxpayer dollars as leverage to do it.
00:29:40.000If we knew he did, Trump would be in real trouble right now.
00:29:43.000He allegedly sought to use the very security assistance dollars appropriated by Congress to create stability in the world, to help root out corruption, and to protect our national security interests for his own personal gain.
00:29:53.000These allegations are stunning, both in the national security threat they pose and the potential corruption they represent.
00:29:59.000We also know that on September 9th, the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community notified Congress of a credible and urgent whistleblower complaint related to national security and potentially involving these allegations.
00:30:09.000Despite federal law requiring the disclosure of the complaint to Congress, the administration has blocked its release to Congress.
00:30:15.000Well, again, the question with regard to the whistleblower complaint is slightly different than the question that is being asked about the underlying material.
00:30:23.000The whistleblower complaint, typically, under the law, has to come from the intelligence community about the intelligence community.
00:30:29.000It can't just be the intelligence community spotting something having nothing to do with the intelligence community.
00:30:35.000Normally, the whistleblowing... There are whistleblower protections at companies.
00:30:40.000If you work at a company, and that company is violating the law, and you make a whistleblower complaint about a completely separate company, you are not considered a whistleblower under the law.
00:30:48.000The same thing obtains when it comes to the intelligence community.
00:30:51.000If you're working for the intelligence community, and you have a complaint about stuff within the intelligence community, that holds under the whistleblower law.
00:30:57.000Not, I mean, this is the Trump administration's case, not a generalized complaint that you have about President Trump.
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00:33:20.000So as I say, seven freshman Democrats have written this letter to The Washington Post, and they continue.
00:33:33.000They say, this flagrant disregard for the law cannot stand.
00:33:35.000To uphold and defend our Constitution, Congress must determine whether the president was indeed willing to use his power and withhold security assistance funds to persuade a foreign country to assist him in an upcoming election.
00:33:45.000As I say, the big defense from Trump is going to be, I released the aid and they didn't investigate Biden, so what's your problem?
00:33:52.000So, this may come down once again, frankly, to the question of attempt.
00:33:56.000If you looked at the second half of the Mueller report, there was a lot of attempt.
00:33:59.000There was a lot of President Trump mouthing off to people in his administration, going, you know what, why don't you go fire Robert Mueller?
00:34:05.000And people going, no, Mr. President, we're not doing that.
00:34:10.000Trump threatening to withhold aid, and then the Ukrainians saying no, and then members of his administration and Congress going, you need to release the aid, and him going, okay.
00:34:20.000Because if the quid pro quo is never pro quoed, is it a quid pro quo?
00:34:25.000Is willingness alone enough for impeachable offense?
00:34:29.000So there's gonna be a two-level defense for Trump, right?
00:34:31.000One is going to be that he did not, in fact, threaten to withhold aid, right?
00:34:36.000If that barrier is not passed, this is not an impeachable case.
00:34:38.000If Trump said, I didn't threaten to withhold aid, I just said to him, it would be great if you could see clear to investigating Hunter Biden, and let's be real, he's corrupt.
00:34:52.000If Trump said, I'm gonna withhold taxpayer dollars unless you go investigate my domestic political opponent, then the question becomes, did it happen or did it not?
00:35:02.000And his attempt enough for an impeachable offense, meaning if he threatens withhold the aid and the Ukrainian said no, and then he let the aid go, which is actually what happened in terms of practicality, is that criminal?
00:35:13.000And you know, honestly, I'll have to consider the answer to that.
00:35:16.000I don't know the answer to that off the top of my head.
00:35:21.000Is that attempted bribery if the act is not completed?
00:35:26.000Was it just Trump mouthing off, right, as Trump is apt to do?
00:35:29.000Again, the second half of the Mueller report is entirely Trump mouthing off and people saying no to him and then him caving.
00:35:35.000So this gets pretty complex and pretty sloppy.
00:35:39.000The Democrats are going to want to investigate, obviously.
00:35:40.000So they say, And in their effort to show passion, they are going over the top.
00:36:08.000Here's Cory Booker saying he doesn't think that Watergate compares, which is weird since we had actual evidence of presidential criminality in Watergate and we do not yet have that of President Trump.
00:36:17.000What do you make of the news about President Trump and his conversation with the president of Ukraine?
00:36:25.000It is a betrayal of the office at the scale of which I haven't seen in my lifetime.
00:36:31.000And you might have to go back to God, I don't think Watergate even compares to what this is.
00:36:38.000Again, this is an oversell and the Democrats are overselling.
00:36:41.000This is why, honestly, the Nancy Pelosi wing of the Democratic Party is trying to hold back the enthusiasm on the part of Democrats, because she's saying, let's just wait for the facts to catch up with where we want to go here.
00:36:51.000That would be the smart move, just politically speaking.
00:36:53.000OK, now shifting over to the 2020 presidential race.
00:36:56.000The obvious beneficiary of this continues to be Elizabeth Warren.
00:36:59.000Everybody is talking about Biden and Ukraine.
00:37:00.000Everybody's talking about Trump and Ukraine.
00:37:02.000And Elizabeth Warren is just sitting over to the side, soaking up the glorious media attention.
00:37:07.000There's a new tracking poll in California, and it shows Elizabeth Warren opening up a wide lead.
00:37:12.000Now, It is a small sample size, like 600 people, and it's a survey.
00:37:17.000It's a monthly tracking poll for Capitol Weekly, and it shows Elizabeth Warren increasing her share of the vote, pushing VP Joe Biden down to third place among likely voters.
00:37:26.000It has her up at 29%, Sanders at 21%, and Biden at 18%.
00:37:30.000Again, there are these leading candidates.
00:38:44.000Amelia Warren Tiagi, who is Elizabeth Warren's daughter.
00:38:48.000So in other words, what that looks like is Elizabeth Warren's, like, all these politicians and their kids, man.
00:38:52.000Elizabeth Warren's kid, chairwoman of Demos, right?
00:38:56.000Demos gave 45 grand to the Working Families Party.
00:38:59.000That was the first year that Demos had ever given anything to the Working Families Party.
00:39:02.000And within one year, the Working Families Party had shifted its support from Bernie Sanders to Elizabeth Warren.
00:39:08.000Dave Weigel of the Washington Post says, the Working Families Party endorsement of Warren is not surprisingly irritating some Sanders supporters.
00:39:15.000Warren's 60.9% win combined two totals, a vote by the leaders and an online member vote.
00:39:20.000Each of those counted for 50% of total, but the Working Families Party won't release the separate tallies, which suggests, of course, that the people voted in favor of Bernie Sanders and the leaders were like, you know what we like?
00:39:29.000This sweet, sweet cash coming from Elizabeth Warren's daughter.
00:39:33.000So again, is this a case of smoke but no fire?
00:39:37.000Like, the appearances of conflict, as I say, in politics, are everywhere.
00:39:40.000Because if you're looking for appearances of conflict, it is not hard to find them, particularly when you have your kids in the political realm.
00:39:47.000For what it's worth, in 2015, the Working Families Party did reveal the results of the online membership survey, and it was 87% for Bernie Sanders.
00:39:56.000Whigle says, I talked to the WFP's national director Maurice Mitchell earlier.
00:40:00.000He made clear the group will not release separate vote totals.
00:40:03.000For there to be one true vote and to maintain the nature of the secret ballot, all of that went into the back end.
00:40:13.000So Elizabeth Warren, this has not received any of the sort of media coverage that it should be receiving because the media are too busy massaging Elizabeth Warren's presidential hopes.
00:40:22.000But that is a pretty bad story for Elizabeth Warren.
00:40:24.000If her daughter looks like she was bribing the Working Families Party to support mom, And the Working Families Party won't reveal the internal vote totals.
00:40:31.000That is a bad story for Elizabeth Warren, and could in fact harm her.
00:40:35.000I think you will see Bernie Sanders make a case out of this.
00:40:38.000Bernie is starting to open up his guns, as I suggested he would have to, on Elizabeth Warren.
00:40:43.000Earlier today, he proposed a super wealth tax, not just a wealthy tax, a super wealth tax, in which he would reduce the ability of billionaires to be billionaires.
00:40:53.000He literally tweeted out, Billionaires should not exist.
00:40:56.000Perhaps we should put them on trains to very cold places.
00:41:15.000He tweeted out, There is no justice when three billionaires are able to own more wealth than the bottom half of the entire country.
00:41:21.000Well, no, there might be justice, depending on whether they also employ hundreds of thousands of Americans, made millions of lives better with their products, and engaged in voluntary exchange.
00:41:32.000So his new plan, Bernie Sanders, he's gonna go for the super-duper wealth tax!
00:41:36.000Elizabeth Warren proposed her 2% wealth tax, which is unconstitutional and would not raise anywhere near the kind of money she's talking about, because you know what wealthy people are very good at?
00:41:47.000In fact, it's one of the reasons why you see Democrats say stuff like, well, you remember back in the 1960s when the top tax bracket was 91%?
00:41:53.000Right, and the effective tax rate on rich people was pretty much the same because rich people started taking their money and putting it in places that were not taxable.
00:42:04.000The tax revenue of the federal government versus the GDP of the United States has basically remained stable since the reduction of war spending after World War II.
00:42:33.000He says this will raise $4.35 trillion per decade.
00:42:36.000And then he says this would be used to fund Bernie's affordable housing plan, universal child care, and the top fund, Medicare for All.
00:42:42.000I mean, that is sort of a problem considering that Medicare for All is supposed to cost something like $34 trillion, so if he raises $4.35 trillion over the next decade, I'm not sure where the other $30 trillion is going to come from, but this is Bernie Sanders upping the ante.
00:42:57.000And also, Bernie Sanders is more of a true believer than Elizabeth Warren, and you're going to see him make that case.
00:43:03.000Just in the last 24 hours, Bernie Sanders is drawing the contrast between Elizabeth Warren and her supposed warm embrace of capitalism and his own love for socialism.
00:43:12.000Here's Bernie saying that people are brainwashed to believe in capitalism.
00:43:15.000Someone says this to him, and of course, he fully agrees.
00:43:18.000Even though I have a lake house and I love pudding.
00:43:23.000I think that the kind of brainwashing or the idea, at least like I grew up with, is that our definition of success is like the American dream in great capitalism.
00:43:36.000You're rewarded for getting everything and just keeping it to yourself and not worrying about everybody else.
00:43:42.000And that's sort of like a psychology that we've all been taught.
00:43:49.000That's a profound, it's a profound point.
00:43:53.000Oh, it's super profound to believe that capitalism is good.
00:43:56.000People have been brainwashed to believe that capitalism is good by, you know, the immense prosperity that capitalism has created.
00:44:02.000But if we get rid of capitalism, everything's like... I don't know how he claims that he is in favor of, quote-unquote, democratic socialism, Norway, Finland, Sweden style, when he is ripping on capitalism, which provides the entire growth basis for the Nordic countries, as every politician in Norway and Sweden and Finland will tell you openly.
00:44:20.000But Bernie is trying to draw a contrast with Elizabeth Warren.
00:44:22.000Meanwhile, Joe Biden continues to sort of stumble around.
00:44:25.000Yesterday, he was asked by a reporter to make the case for his presidency, and he basically said, no, I'm not going to do it.
00:44:31.000Iowa, the unemployment rate is two and a half percent.
00:44:34.000People say they are employed in Iowa and their small businesses are growing.
00:44:38.000They were employed before he got elected.
00:44:43.000The president won by 10 percentage points in Iowa.
00:44:46.000I guess he didn't win by 10 percentage points.
00:44:48.000What I'm suggesting is he's not the reason for the unemployment rate being down.
00:44:51.000But why should people want to make a change, though?
00:45:04.000Well, you know, you might want to at some point.
00:45:06.000And Biden's problem is that he's having the so-called Teddy Kennedy problem from 1980.
00:45:10.000Teddy Kennedy was famously asked in an interview in 1980 when he was running against Jimmy Carter, whether, in fact, he had a reason for wanting to be president and he had no answer.
00:45:20.000And Biden has that same feel about him.
00:45:22.000So you've got Elizabeth Warren on the far left, and Joe Biden stumbling around somewhere in the middle slash left.
00:45:27.000And then you've got Elizabeth Warren, who, again, continues to receive glowing media coverage.
00:45:31.000And the media are ignoring anything that smacks of corruption for her.
00:45:34.000Okay, meanwhile, there's a lot of hubbub over at the UN over climate change.
00:45:38.000And there's a girl named Greta Thunberg who is, I will say, a very effective emotional spokesperson for the climate change effort.
00:45:47.000And she was very emotional over at the UN.
00:45:50.000There are a bunch of these kids who have been trotted out by the far left.
00:45:53.000In order to make the climate change case, she's gotten an enormous number of headlines because she's been involved in a huge organizational effort over in Europe to get people into the streets, and here is what it sounded like.
00:46:03.000You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words.
00:46:36.000I am going to blame people on the left who specifically hide behind children in order to avoid solutions talk.
00:46:43.000So there's a friend of mine, I'm not going to name check for his own job security, over at Wharton Business School, and he tweeted a few weeks back that if you actually want to do something, you have to lead with solutions.
00:46:53.000If you're just talking about problems, that's called complaining.
00:46:56.000Well, I'm not going to blame kids for complaining because that's what kids do, right?
00:46:59.000You wouldn't expect a teenager to have a solution because teenagers don't have solutions.
00:47:03.000What I would expect is for politicians and folks on the left who pretend to be serious about these issues to actually provide the solutions.
00:47:09.000But this is specifically why they are trotting out kids like Greta Thunberg.
00:47:13.000The reason they are using those kids as the spokespeople for their cause is because no one expects children, no one expects teenagers to provide solutions They would expect politicians to provide solutions because if you saw Barack Obama say something like that, if he said, how dare you?
00:47:51.000And nobody, even on the environmentalist left, wants to talk about that.
00:47:55.000Instead, they want to throw out this pie-in-the-sky garbage like the Green New Deal, which provides no solutions, by the way.
00:48:00.000And then they want to say, if you oppose those solutions, it's because you're not passionate enough.
00:48:03.000It's the same thing the left will do about gun control.
00:48:05.000We don't actually have solutions tailored to the problem, but we're going to put out a bunch of kids who can talk about the problem.
00:48:13.000And then, if you say that the kids have no solutions, it's because you're targeting children.
00:48:17.000This is the goal of people on the left.
00:48:19.000Put forward the kids as political shields for their own inability to come up with a solution.
00:48:25.000At the same time that Greta Thunberg is out there pushing on climate change and saying that continuous economic growth is a myth and all this.
00:48:41.000At the same time that all of these kids are being trotted out and cheered by the media and Barack Obama going on Twitter and talking about, look at the courage of these children.
00:48:53.000I don't know, but they deserve action.
00:48:55.000At the same time that's happening, report from the New York Times.
00:48:57.000The UN Climate Action Summit on Monday was meant to highlight concrete promises by presidents, prime ministers, and corporate executives to wean the global economy from fossil fuels to avoid the worst effects of global warming.
00:49:07.000But despite the protests in the streets, China on Monday made no new promises to take stronger climate action.
00:49:13.000No, you mean that giant protests in the West are not going to affect Xi Jinping?
00:49:18.000I mean, for God's sake, he was threatening to roll tanks over people in Hong Kong.
00:49:22.000So you think that he cares what Greta Thunberg has to say?
00:49:31.000Hey, those countries are not going to change their policies because a bunch of school children in the West are protesting in the streets without any actual solutions to the problems.
00:49:42.000Which is why I suggest that all of this is a disingenuous effort by people who do not have solutions to the problem in order to politically polarize.
00:49:48.000And that does break the system because if the suggestion is That if only we had sufficient willingness, we could come to a solution.
00:49:57.000You're putting strain on a system that is not capable of carrying it.
00:50:00.000And then people lose faith in the system.
00:50:03.000It is an anti-democratic point of view to suggest that complaining is in and of itself a solution, and then you don't have to provide solutions, and no solution is put forth, and people get more passionate and more upset, and the system can't do it.
00:50:15.000You're putting strains on a system because you are too lazy and too stupid, and I'm not talking about any of these kids.
00:50:19.000I'm talking about the politicians who are using these kids, and members of the media who are using these kids.
00:50:24.000You are too lazy, or too disingenuous, or too stupid to come up with solutions.
00:50:28.000And so instead, you try out a bunch of kids who are not expected to have solutions, so that you can have them complain about the problem, and then if anybody points out that nobody's providing a solution, like, well, those are kids.
00:50:37.000Why would you expect them to have solutions?
00:50:39.000I expect you to have solutions, and I expect you to stop with the political manipulation in which you are engaged, because it is gross and very, very bad for the system.
00:52:37.000Okay, so when people suggest that maybe the left-leaning media wishes to tear down our social institutions, it's because of pieces like this.
00:52:44.000The New York Times Magazine has a piece by Malia Wallin called How to Propose an Open Relationship.
00:53:44.000If you're in a monogamous relationship and want to explore making it non-monogamous, raise the topic gradually.
00:53:50.000As a general rule, by the way, topics you have to raise gradually with your spouse are probably topics you shouldn't be broaching.
00:53:56.000Really, if you have to raise a topic gradually with your spouse, it's a pretty good indicator, and you can't have an open conversation about it, pretty good indicator that this may not be a topic that is worthy of consideration.
00:54:33.000You watch the old sitcoms, and the usual order of things is you fall in love with somebody, you marry them, and then you go to bed with them.
00:54:39.000And now, the order of things in every sitcom and every TV show ever is you go to bed with them, maybe you fall in love with them, and then, after 10 years, you marry them.
00:54:47.000And then we're surprised that relationships aren't working as well, because as it turns out, you know what's the easiest part of a relationship?
00:55:12.000Listen carefully to what your partner wants.
00:55:14.000To make what sex researchers call consensual, extra dyadic involvement work, you need to be willing to communicate often and with empathy.
00:55:22.000Monogamous couples move into non-monogamy for all kinds of reasons.
00:55:26.000Unmet sexual desire, boredom, illness, curiosity.
00:55:29.000Open arrangements tend to work best for couples with lower inclinations toward jealousy and, in the case of heterosexual pairs, less rigid gender norms.
00:55:56.000Okay, we'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content and all the updates on Ukraine, I-crane, we all crane for Ukraine.
00:56:02.000We'll have all of those updates a little bit later, so that's why you should subscribe.