The Ben Shapiro Show - In Love With Rage | Ep. 834

00:00:00.000 A Democratic congressperson targets his own constituents for donating to President Trump, Democrats ramp up their policy extremism, and Republicans pursue a serious piece of gun control.

00:00:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:09.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:11.000 A lot to get to today, but if it's too long, you can't read it.

00:00:20.000 Let me just sum it up for you. 0.98

00:00:21.000 Everything is garbage. 1.00

00:00:22.000 A flaming dumpster fire of garbage. 1.00

00:00:24.000 Everyone is garbage. 1.00

00:00:25.000 Everything is garbage. 1.00

00:00:25.000 That is the short story for today, because in a time, as I've been saying for the past several days, when we should all be unified, because this isn't tough. 1.00

00:00:33.000 White supremacism. 0.62

00:00:34.000 Evil. 1.00

00:00:35.000 White supremacist terrorists. 1.00

00:00:36.000 Evil. 1.00

00:00:37.000 We should all be condemning them.

00:00:38.000 We should all be on the same page.

00:00:40.000 We should all be getting together and mourning and figuring out the best way to move forward.

00:00:43.000 Instead, there's a political war going on where folks are so bent on savaging the other side that they are undermining any possibility at real change that actually would be a good idea.

00:00:54.000 That would actually be a good idea.

00:00:56.000 So we begin today with President Trump preparing to head to El Paso.

00:00:59.000 Now, naturally, this is going to be divisive.

00:01:01.000 The reason that it's divisive is because President Trump has made comments in the past that are incredibly divisive. 0.68

00:01:06.000 But just as importantly, maybe more importantly at this point in a time when the president should be called upon to unify everybody, Democrats are more focused on blaming Trump for the actual shooting, as though Trump is either a white supremacist, which he is not, or as though he wanted to actually There are actual commentators on television the last couple days who are actually suggesting that what Trump wants is to kill Latinos.

00:01:33.000 And this is the tone and tenor that we are now operating under thanks to a mainstream media that has a narrative to push. 0.84

00:01:42.000 So we have Nicole Wallace yesterday on MSNBC who suggested openly that the president wanted Latinos exterminated.

00:01:49.000 She then had to come out Do we actually have the clip of Nicole Wallace talking about this?

00:01:53.000 She then had to come out and apologize for all of this.

00:01:56.000 She said, I misspoke about Trump calling for an extermination of Latinos.

00:01:59.000 My mistake was unintentional, and I'm sorry.

00:02:02.000 Trump's constant assault on people of color and his use of the word invasion to describe the flow of immigrants is intentional and constant.

00:02:08.000 So in other words, I'm sorry, but not sorry. 0.98

00:02:09.000 Sorry, I said he wanted to exterminate all the Latinos. 0.99

00:02:11.000 But really, he kind of wants to exterminate all the Latinos. 0.96

00:02:15.000 Do we actually have the clip of Nicole Wallace talking about this? 0.88

00:02:17.000 Yeah, here she is. 0.98

00:02:18.000 What do you do when, certainly the last Republican president fought for, sought, and it's not ideal, but had 44% of the Latino vote.

00:02:28.000 It was so politically powerful inside the last Republican administration.

00:02:34.000 President Obama used the power of the presidency to try to pass comprehensive immigration reform with the Latino community, Latino leaders at the table.

00:02:42.000 You don't have a president, as you said, talking about exterminating Latinos.

00:02:46.000 It's not even... 0.95

00:02:47.000 I'm talking about exterminating Latinos? 1.00

00:02:49.000 Okay, so first of all, I'm not sure how you say that by mistake. 0.92

00:02:52.000 That doesn't seem like a... It seems like she's pretty confident in her wording there.

00:02:56.000 She sort of walks it back, sort of does not, but this is part of a pattern for a lot of the commentators, particularly on MSNBC.

00:03:02.000 Mika Brzezinski.

00:03:03.000 I'm old enough to remember when Mika Brzezinski was laughing it up, yucking it up with Donald Trump during the 2016 primaries.

00:03:09.000 So was Joe Scarborough.

00:03:11.000 Joe Scarborough suggested in January of 2016 he might run as Trump's running mate in January 2016, a month after Trump put forward that statement calling for a ban on Muslims entering the United States.

00:03:21.000 So how times have changed.

00:03:22.000 Here's Mika Brzezinski suggesting that what Trump actually wants is the shootings.

00:03:25.000 He wants the shootings.

00:03:26.000 Which is an insane contention.

00:03:29.000 I mean, no evidence for that whatsoever, and a lot of evidence to the contrary.

00:03:29.000 Crazy!

00:03:32.000 Here's Mika Brzezinski saying this yesterday. 0.53

00:03:35.000 You have to ask the question, Chelle.

00:03:37.000 And I'll ask you.

00:03:39.000 Isn't it okay to deduce that at this point, this is what he wants?

00:03:45.000 He is inciting hatred, inciting violence, inciting racism.

00:03:50.000 If he doesn't unequivocally call it off and say, this is wrong, and we stand together against this, and we are doing this, this, and this to help fight hate crime.

00:04:02.000 I mean, this is a president who Seems to want these things to happen.

00:04:08.000 Once, once Latinos shot up in a Walmart, that's the... Okay, so we go from Barack Obama ripped on police departments around the country and called them systemically racist, and an evil Black Lives Matter associated activist went out and shot cops.

00:04:22.000 Barack Obama was not responsible for that.

00:04:24.000 Bernie Sanders suggested that Republicans wanted to kill millions with their health care reform plans.

00:04:29.000 And one of his supporters went out and shot Congress people.

00:04:31.000 That was not Bernie Sanders' fault. 0.95

00:04:33.000 We have Mika Brzezinski openly suggesting that Donald Trump wants people shot, Latinos shot, at a Walmart. 0.53

00:04:39.000 American citizens shot at a Walmart. 0.94

00:04:42.000 That's what she's openly saying.

00:04:43.000 And then you have Nicole Wallace, who says Trump wants to exterminate Latinos, then she has to walk that one back. 1.00

00:04:48.000 You have an MSNBC regular named Frank Figliuzzi. 0.96

00:04:51.000 I mean, they've gone, they've gone insane.

00:04:53.000 The narrative has overwhelmed any sense of the factual situation on the ground and has overwhelmed any sense of decency.

00:04:59.000 Because again, the fact is we should all be on the same page on this.

00:05:02.000 This is so not difficult.

00:05:04.000 Frank Figliuzzi, who I'd never heard of before, apparently he's a regular on MSNBC and also a former FBI analyst.

00:05:11.000 So one of our intelligence operatives, he said yesterday, That when President Trump ordered the American flag flown at half-staff, and then ordered it to be flown at half-staff until August 8th, which would be tomorrow, so for half a week, that this is actually Trump signaling to Neo-Nazis, because August 8th is 8-8, and 8-8 is the last half of 14-88, and for those who don't know Neo-Nazi parlance, 14-88 is supposed to be the 14th, it's supposed to be

00:05:40.000 8-8 is Heil Hitler in neo-nazi parlance because the 8th letter of the alphabet is H. Okay, so he's suggesting that, just to get this straight, it's not a conspiracy theory, right?

00:05:50.000 According to this guy.

00:05:52.000 Trump ordered the flags flown at half-staff until August 8th because 8-8 is Heil Hitler.

00:06:00.000 I'm not kidding.

00:06:01.000 This is a thing that was actually said on national television on MSNBC.

00:06:04.000 The president said that we will fly our flags at half mast until August 8th.

00:06:11.000 That's 8-8.

00:06:12.000 Now, I'm not going to imply that he did this deliberately, but I am using it as an example of the ignorance of the adversary that's being demonstrated by the White House.

00:06:21.000 The numbers 8-8 are very significant in neo-Nazi and white supremacy movement. 0.99

00:06:26.000 Are you an insane person? 0.99

00:06:27.000 Why? 0.99

00:06:28.000 Because the letter H is the eighth letter of the alphabet.

00:06:32.000 And to them, the numbers 8-8 together stand for Heil Hitler. 0.56

00:06:36.000 What?

00:06:37.000 What?

00:06:38.000 Uh-huh?

00:06:39.000 What?

00:06:40.000 By the way, the 14 in 1488 is the so-called 14 words that were coined by George Lincoln Rockwell.

00:06:45.000 We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children. 1.00

00:06:48.000 Lincoln Rockwell, of course, was the leader of the American Nazi Party, one of the more evil human beings to walk the planet over the last half century, or the last three quarters of a century.

00:06:57.000 And second, we're going to get to what President Trump is actually saying, and then we're going to get to what he's been saying on Twitter, we're going to get to the egregious extent to which the left is going to push the narrative that everybody who disagrees with them is actually in league with a person who shot up innocents At a Walmart in El Paso.

00:07:15.000 It's just, it's beyond maddening.

00:07:18.000 It's actually crazy.

00:07:19.000 And not only is it crazy, it's despicable, because it actually is making the country more dangerous.

00:07:22.000 You want to talk about incitement?

00:07:23.000 We'll talk about incitement in just one second.

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00:08:33.000 Okay, so, President Trump is about to head to El Paso.

00:08:38.000 And he made a statement this morning, he was about to get into the helicopter, and he made a statement about white supremacism that is entirely appropriate and naturally the media went nuts over it because this is what we do now.

00:08:49.000 I am concerned about the rise of any group of hate.

00:08:53.000 I don't like it.

00:08:54.000 Any group of hate, whether it's white supremacy, whether it's any other kind of supremacy, whether it's Antifa, whether it's any group of hate, I am very concerned about it, and I'll do something about it.

00:09:09.000 There is nothing wrong with that statement.

00:09:11.000 That is not him downplaying white supremacy.

00:09:12.000 That is not him saying that there are good people on both sides of a march.

00:09:16.000 That is not any of that.

00:09:17.000 That is him explicitly saying that he hates white supremacy and he's going to fight white supremacy.

00:09:21.000 That's what Mika Brzezinski was calling on him to do. 0.96

00:09:24.000 But the left doesn't want to accept that Trump is making those moves, specifically because it undercuts the narrative that they are painting, which is that President Trump is actually an expositor of white nationalism and white supremacism. 0.64

00:09:35.000 The argument the left is now making, and it is a disgusting, vile, divisive, polarizing, horrible argument, is that if you are anywhere to the right of Elizabeth Warren, then you are complicit in a shooting at an El Paso Walmart of Hispanics. 0.88

00:09:50.000 That is what they're saying.

00:09:51.000 Now that doesn't mean that Trump can be counted on to engage in the most proper possible way.

00:09:57.000 He can't, right?

00:09:58.000 Today, the president went on Twitter, and his worst nemesis, he went on Twitter and he started ripping into Beto O'Rourke.

00:10:05.000 So Beto, who has been saying that he doesn't want Trump to come to El Paso, is obviously mouthing off in what I think is an inappropriate way, Trump is still the president of the United States.

00:10:14.000 And him coming to El Paso in the midst of a tragedy makes perfect sense.

00:10:17.000 Any other president would.

00:10:19.000 But Trump decided to go right back at Beto in sort of the most puerile way, and it's unbecoming in a time of tragedy.

00:10:26.000 It's unbecoming in a time of national mourning.

00:10:28.000 He should just ignore Beto.

00:10:29.000 He should rise above the fray.

00:10:30.000 I know that's not Trump's MO, but guess what?

00:10:33.000 It should be in a time when all of our minds should be with the victims in El Paso and not on the political infighting that Democrats seem to want to promote here.

00:10:40.000 Trump tweeted out Beto, phony name to indicate Hispanic heritage, O'Rourke.

00:10:44.000 Is that helpful in any way?

00:10:45.000 Is that something that is going to help Trump moving forward politically with suburban voters or as far as just the country generally?

00:10:45.000 Of course it is not.

00:10:49.000 that 1% in the Democrat primary should respect the victims and law enforcement and be silent.

00:10:53.000 Is that helpful in any way?

00:10:56.000 Of course it is not.

00:10:57.000 Is that something that is going to help Trump moving forward politically with suburban voters?

00:11:02.000 Or as far as just the country generally, is that going to make the country better?

00:11:07.000 Of course that is not.

00:11:09.000 And the media are running with all of this, that Trump is a divisive figure, that he shouldn't show up, so CNN has a headline today, critics question whether Trump visit to El Paso and Dayton will help healing.

00:11:19.000 Well, no bleep, Sherlock.

00:11:20.000 I mean, of course they're questioning that.

00:11:23.000 This is part of the narrative, and it's also part of the entire debate.

00:11:26.000 According to CNN, Trump will travel Wednesday to the scenes of back-to-back mass shootings that stunned the nation and left at least 31 people dead.

00:11:32.000 But his planned appearances in Ohio and Texas aren't being well-received by all local officials, some of whom say it would be best if the commander-in-chief avoided their grief-stricken cities.

00:11:41.000 Exact plans for Trump's visits to Dayton and El Paso haven't been released and were still being finalized by the White House advance teams on Tuesday afternoon.

00:11:48.000 There was the same sort of hubbub in the run up to President Trump visiting Pittsburgh in the aftermath of the Tree of Life shooting.

00:11:54.000 Everything went fine.

00:11:54.000 He went to Pittsburgh.

00:11:55.000 It was fine.

00:11:55.000 There were a few protesters.

00:11:56.000 That was it.

00:11:58.000 But obviously that's not really what the media want here.

00:12:01.000 What the media want here is not a unifying moment.

00:12:03.000 What they want is a divisive moment.

00:12:05.000 According to CNN, the question his critics have is whether he will comfort their cities in mourning or deepen the divisions.

00:12:11.000 Well, I could ask the same question of the media.

00:12:12.000 Are they interested in comforting the cities in mourning?

00:12:14.000 Or are they interested in deepening political divisions for political purposes?

00:12:18.000 CNN says, Okay, all of that may be true.

00:12:22.000 Okay, all of that may be true.

00:12:38.000 It is also true that Barack Obama was a highly divisive president, just in a very different and more subtle way.

00:12:42.000 I'm not going to equate the level of the rhetoric of the two, but there is no question that Barack Obama was deeply divisive, and people had similar questions specifically.

00:12:51.000 I mean, he showed up to Dallas after the Dallas police shooting and nobody said he shouldn't.

00:12:55.000 Nobody said he shouldn't come.

00:12:57.000 In any case.

00:12:59.000 What all of this leads up to is the conclusion that for a lot of folks on the left, they're actually unhappy at Trump now trying to do the unity routine.

00:13:07.000 They're unhappy about it because what they would prefer is that unity not take place. 0.94

00:13:12.000 What they would prefer is the continuing narrative that Trump is a white supremacist and his supporters are white supremacists.

00:13:17.000 This is why Joe Biden is planning an entire address in Iowa today about white supremacism in which presumably he will blame President Trump for the shooting in El Paso, Texas. 0.51

00:13:26.000 And it's not just Joe Biden.

00:13:29.000 Over the last 24 hours, something truly egregious has been done by a congressperson named Joaquin Castro.

00:13:34.000 So, Joaquin Castro is the congressperson from San Antonio.

00:13:39.000 And he is engaged in the widespread myth-making now on the part of members of the media and on the left, that everyone on the right is supportive of a mass shooting.

00:13:49.000 So they use the transitive property.

00:13:50.000 It goes something like this.

00:13:51.000 President Trump is responsible for the El Paso shooting.

00:13:54.000 That's not true, but they say it.

00:13:56.000 Trump is responsible for the El Paso shooting.

00:13:58.000 Then they say, therefore, anyone who supports Trump is, by the transitive property, responsible for the El Paso shooting.

00:14:05.000 So Joaquin Castro is Julián Castro's brother.

00:14:07.000 He's a congressperson from San Antonio.

00:14:10.000 And he put out a target list, basically.

00:14:13.000 He tweeted out, sad to see so many San Antonians as 2019 maximum donors to Donald Trump, the owner of Bill Miller Barbecue, owner of Historic Pearl, realtor Phyllis Browning, etc.

00:14:23.000 Their contributions are fueling a campaign of hate that labels Hispanic immigrants as invaders.

00:14:28.000 And then he put out a full list, a list of 44 different people.

00:14:33.000 I don't believe that's the actual full list of everybody who maxed out to Trump in San Antonio.

00:14:37.000 I've seen the list from the FEC and it's a little bit longer, but in any case, he puts out a list of 44 people in his own district with their names who are funding Trump.

00:14:48.000 The idea being that he would like to see them bear some sort of public scrutiny, that he would like to see them harassed, that he would like to see something bad happen to them.

00:14:56.000 Now, people are saying, well, it's publicly available information.

00:14:56.000 This is doxing.

00:14:59.000 Yes, doxing can be publicly available information.

00:15:02.000 The question is whether you are driving people to target people based on their political viewpoint.

00:15:06.000 And that's exactly what Joaquin Castro is doing right there.

00:15:10.000 He's not trying to hide the ball.

00:15:12.000 This stuff, by the way, does have consequences.

00:15:14.000 We live in a time when people were standing outside Mitch McConnell's house, outside his home.

00:15:18.000 That's publicly available information.

00:15:20.000 It is also disgusting.

00:15:21.000 People were standing outside Mitch McConnell's home and chanting at him and calling for his death.

00:15:26.000 People have shown up outside Tucker Carlson's home over the last 24 hours.

00:15:30.000 A member of Antifa in New York, a self-described member of Antifa in New York, called for people in L.A.

00:15:35.000 to show up at my house and harass me or kill me on Twitter.

00:15:39.000 We filed the appropriate police reports.

00:15:41.000 It is in law enforcement hands now.

00:15:43.000 And as always, I do have 24-7 security.

00:15:46.000 You want to make the country a worse place?

00:15:48.000 This is how you do it right here.

00:15:51.000 This is making the country a worse place because not only is the suggestion that people are responsible for the shooting, who are not responsible for the shooting, the idea is we are now going to publicly put their faces out there and make them targets.

00:16:03.000 Because, I mean, basically, Joaquin Castro is calling these people accessories to murder.

00:16:08.000 He's saying Trump is an accessory to murder, and then these people are accessories to Trump.

00:16:12.000 So they are accessories to murder. 0.54

00:16:13.000 There's a conspiracy to murder, and therefore these people are part of that.

00:16:16.000 They are part of that problem.

00:16:18.000 How do you think people are going to react to that?

00:16:19.000 You want to talk about heightening rhetoric and incitement?

00:16:22.000 This is a lot closer to that than anything that Trump has said about illegal immigration.

00:16:26.000 His statements about illegal immigration are generalized and somewhat vague.

00:16:29.000 They are not targeted at specific individuals. 0.98

00:16:32.000 What is being done right here, I mean, the media went nuts when Trump just said Elijah Cummings is a crap congressperson. 0.96

00:16:38.000 The media went crazy when someone took a picture of AOC eating a burger in public. 0.98

00:16:43.000 And now the media are covering for this.

00:16:45.000 They're covering for Joaquin Castro, putting out a target list of people who donated to Trump, which is specifically designed to incite action against those people.

00:16:53.000 There's no other reason to put out the list.

00:16:54.000 It's why it's being done. 0.73

00:16:56.000 It's disgusting.

00:16:57.000 It's divisive. 0.95

00:16:58.000 It's wrong.

00:16:59.000 But Democrats are out there defending it because this runs as part of their narrative.

00:17:02.000 We'll get to more of this in just a second.

00:17:04.000 I mean, the country's coming apart at the seams, it feels like.

00:17:06.000 That's what it feels like.

00:17:06.000 And, as I'll explain, What Joaquin Castro did right here?

00:17:10.000 What he's doing?

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00:18:30.000 Okay, so, Joaquin Castro tweets that out.

00:18:33.000 Kevin McCarthy, the House Minority Leader, he tweets back, "Targeting and harassing Americans because of their political beliefs is shameful and dangerous.

00:18:40.000 What happened to when they go low, we go high?

00:18:43.000 Or does that no longer matter when your brother is polling at 1%?

00:18:45.000 Americans deserve better." Joaquin Castro then fired back and he said, "No one was targeted or harassed in my post.

00:18:53.000 You know that.

00:18:54.000 No, we don't know that.

00:18:55.000 That's exactly what you're doing.

00:18:57.000 What is the point of putting that out there if you don't mean to target or harass them?

00:19:00.000 Of course you're doing that.

00:19:01.000 They didn't sound off and then you're retweeting them.

00:19:03.000 All they did was give a donation.

00:19:04.000 We've seen this sort of stuff in California before.

00:19:06.000 In California, after Proposition 8, there were gay activists who decided to go after anyone who had donated to the proposition in favor of upholding traditional marriage.

00:19:15.000 All of that ended with the firing of Brandon Eich from Mozilla.

00:19:18.000 It ended with the undermining of a restaurant in Hollywood where one of the founders had given money to the Prop 8 cause, holding the same position on traditional marriage at the time that was held by one Barack H. Obama.

00:19:28.000 Okay, so that was the traditional position in the Democratic Party as well as the Republican Party.

00:19:34.000 We know what this is about.

00:19:36.000 Don't pretend that you're putting out this list out of a good-hearted attempt to simply say to these people, guys, why are you giving to Trump?

00:19:44.000 You have a phone, Joaquin.

00:19:46.000 Just because these people gave money to somebody you oppose does not mean that you outing them publicly and then attempting to drive ire at their businesses.

00:19:55.000 To drive boycotts at their businesses, which is what this is about.

00:19:57.000 Let's be very real about what is going on here.

00:19:59.000 And the left has been doing this with everybody on the right for years.

00:20:03.000 Folks on the left have been attempting to boycott advertisers on shows like mine.

00:20:07.000 They've been attempting to go after businesses of people who are on the right.

00:20:10.000 I've never seen anything like this from the right to the left, by the way.

00:20:12.000 It's very rare you see something like this from the right to the left.

00:20:14.000 And usually, many people on the right look askance at folks when they do this sort of stuff.

00:20:19.000 But on the left, this is apparently celebrated by public officials.

00:20:22.000 So Joaquin Castro tweets out, You know that.

00:20:24.000 All that info is routinely published.

00:20:28.000 You're trying to distract from the racism that has overtaken the GOP and the fact that President Trump spends donor money on thousands of ads about Hispanics invading America.

00:20:36.000 Again, this is a misread.

00:20:38.000 Even the invasion language that Trump uses is not about quote-unquote Hispanics invading America.

00:20:42.000 It's about illegal immigrants. 0.92

00:20:44.000 Yeah, I don't use the invasion language because it is not an invasion.

00:20:46.000 It is a bunch of people who want to cross the border because most of them are looking for a better life.

00:20:50.000 They're not looking to invade on behalf of any other country, on behalf of any other lifestyle.

00:20:54.000 That is not an invasion.

00:20:56.000 When Trump talks about an invasion, he is not actually talking.

00:21:00.000 About every Hispanic crossing the border.

00:21:02.000 And Joaquin Castro knows that.

00:21:04.000 It's a deliberate misread.

00:21:05.000 Anyway, Joaquin Castro continues.

00:21:07.000 Donald Trump has put a target on the back of millions.

00:21:09.000 So this is him making explicit what was implicit before.

00:21:12.000 Trump is responsible, presumably, for the murder of Hispanics in that El Paso Walmart. 0.97

00:21:18.000 He says, and you're too cowardly or agreeable to say anything about it. 0.57

00:21:21.000 How about I stop mentioning Trump's public campaign donors and he stops using their money for ads that fuel hate?

00:21:26.000 So in other words, I'm going to keep going with this.

00:21:28.000 I'm going to keep going with this.

00:21:30.000 Steve Scalise responded.

00:21:32.000 And Scalise, of course, has some experience with folks who have taken leftist rhetoric so seriously that they shoot him and almost kill him.

00:21:40.000 Steve Scalise, the House Minority Whip, he says, Which is, of course, true.

00:21:43.000 He does.

00:21:43.000 personally targeted for their political views.

00:21:45.000 Period.

00:21:46.000 This isn't the game.

00:21:47.000 It's dangerous and lives are at stake.

00:21:49.000 I know this firsthand, which is of course true.

00:21:52.000 He does.

00:21:53.000 He almost died.

00:21:54.000 If the events of the past weekend taught us anything, says Scalise, it's that we need to stop seeing our neighbors as political enemies.

00:22:00.000 This kind of dangerous targeting isn't how we heal our nation.

00:22:04.000 I think there are a lot of folks on the political left who are not interested in healing the nation.

00:22:04.000 But this is the point.

00:22:08.000 They think the only way to heal the nation is to excise the cancer, and the cancer would be anybody who's on the right or who supports President Trump or both.

00:22:15.000 Rashida Tlaib tweeted out in support of Joaquin Castro.

00:22:18.000 Chairman Castro, they don't like it when you name their donors.

00:22:21.000 The public needs to know who funds racism.

00:22:23.000 This comes from a woman who is publicly associated with people who are open terror supporters, Rashida Tlaib.

00:22:29.000 And there are pictures of her with people who support Hamas.

00:22:31.000 This is not, and she's celebrating with them.

00:22:33.000 Like one of them gave her a picture upon her swearing in.

00:22:37.000 So Rashida Tlaib supporting that as well.

00:22:41.000 And Joe Scarborough came out in dramatic support yesterday.

00:22:45.000 He tweeted about this, quote, any business that donates to Trump is complicit and endorses the white supremacy he espoused in Charlottesville with his send her back chance.

00:22:54.000 And by laughing at shouts that Hispanic immigrants should be shot, donors' names are on FEC reports. 0.82

00:22:59.000 They are newsworthy. 0.97

00:23:00.000 So this is where we're going.

00:23:03.000 Anybody who donates to any political cause is now responsible for people who are evil, who take political messages and use them as impetus to go commit a shooting, even if they say in their manifesto that it's not Trump's fault, right?

00:23:17.000 None of that matters.

00:23:19.000 Joe Scarborough is now doing the routine that so many members of the left are doing, lumping everybody together.

00:23:24.000 If you support Trump, you support shootings of people in El Paso.

00:23:27.000 Scarborough then continued, Now listen, I personally, I like Joe Scarborough.

00:23:36.000 I think Joe Scarborough is a nice dude.

00:23:38.000 I think that Joe Scarborough is a smart dude, but this is, this is just egregious.

00:23:42.000 It's egregious!

00:23:44.000 And it necessitates me bringing up the fact that Joe Scarborough really pushed President Trump extraordinarily hard in 2016, early in the primaries, was sitting there laughing with him, was in his campaign suite when the primary results were rolling in from Iowa.

00:23:57.000 Joe Scarborough told Hugh Hewitt in January 2016 he would consider being on Trump's ticket as his running mate.

00:24:04.000 I mean, come on!

00:24:06.000 So Scarborough says if your business funds Trump's campaign, you're supporting white supremacy full stop, look at his rallies, listen to the chants of send her back, here are the calls of shoot them, your money funds that, your business supports that, you are complicit.

00:24:19.000 Hey by the way, Trump never said shoot them, that was a member of the audience, and he responded jokingly because he always plays to the crowd.

00:24:25.000 Does anyone seriously believe that Trump wants people shot at a Walmart in El Paso?

00:24:29.000 Like is there one honest person in America who believes that that is the case?

00:24:33.000 The answer is obviously no.

00:24:35.000 The answer is obviously no, but this is the narrative and the narrative must be pushed.

00:24:39.000 And it's being pushed by folks like Reza Aslan, who came out yesterday and suggested that I, I who have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in self-defense because white supremacists would like to kill me, that I am a white supremacist. 0.73

00:24:51.000 And by the way, not just Ben Shapiro, all of you are white supremacists because if in any way you have ever supported anything Trump did, you're a white supremacist too.

00:25:01.000 So Reza Aslan, pushing forward that narrative, he tweeted out, Let me just clear this up.

00:25:04.000 Yes, all Trump supporters are culpable. 0.96

00:25:06.000 If you support a racist, you are a racist. 0.97

00:25:07.000 whether I believe that all Trump supporters are culpable in the white nationalist terrorism he's inspired. 0.97

00:25:11.000 Let me just clear this up.

00:25:13.000 Yes, all Trump supporters are culpable. 0.99

00:25:15.000 If you support a racist, you are a racist. 0.94

00:25:18.000 This is the point of the left. 0.92

00:25:18.000 End. 0.92

00:25:21.000 The point of the left is that everybody on the right, not just Trump, this isn't about curbing Trump's bad rhetoric.

00:25:27.000 If it were about curbing Trump's bad rhetoric, they would have been criticizing it back in 2015-2016 instead of giving him free airtime.

00:25:33.000 If this were about curbing Trump's bad rhetoric, they would be celebrating the fact that this week Trump has said the right stuff.

00:25:40.000 But they're not.

00:25:40.000 They're upset that Trump is saying the right things this week.

00:25:43.000 And the reason they are upset is because it undermines the narrative they are trying to draw, which is that everybody on the right is complicit in a terror attack, a white supremacist terror attack on Latinos.

00:25:53.000 That is the narrative and they are going to push it.

00:25:55.000 Elizabeth Warren does the same thing.

00:25:57.000 She says Trump and the Republicans are enabling white supremacy.

00:26:00.000 Here she was yesterday talking to Don Lemon.

00:26:03.000 Okay, so it's everybody's fault.

00:26:04.000 Everybody's fault.

00:26:05.000 feel like they are now empowered.

00:26:07.000 They are protected.

00:26:08.000 They celebrate this president.

00:26:10.000 This has turned America in a terrible direction.

00:26:14.000 And Donald Trump keeps it going.

00:26:16.000 And let's be clear, a Republican Congress, Republican leadership in Washington, they got nothing to say about it.

00:26:24.000 And that means they just help strengthen it.

00:26:27.000 Okay, so it's everybody's fault.

00:26:29.000 Everybody's fault.

00:26:30.000 Okay, again, this is the transitive property.

00:26:33.000 Trump responsible for shooting.

00:26:35.000 Not true.

00:26:36.000 Everybody who supports Trump responsible for shooting?

00:26:38.000 Not true.

00:26:39.000 Everybody who is conservative supports those people who support Trump who is responsible for the shooting?

00:26:43.000 Not true.

00:26:44.000 Elizabeth Warren then tweeted out, Donald Trump is enabling white supremacy and Republicans are enabling him.

00:26:49.000 And when Congress and the American people have tried to fight the gun violence epidemic, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has put the NRA first.

00:26:55.000 Okay, again, this is one of the more egregious gun control lies on the left, is that people on the right support the Second Amendment because of the NRA.

00:27:02.000 That the NRA doesn't exist because people support the Second Amendment. 1.00

00:27:05.000 It's idiotic. 1.00

00:27:06.000 I mean, fully idiotic. 1.00

00:27:08.000 It is the same thing as saying that union leaders, that union power is the reason that Democrats support unions, not that unions support Democrats because Democrats are pro-union. 1.00

00:27:21.000 It's just, it's ridiculous. 1.00

00:27:22.000 It's silly, it's ridiculous, it's dumb, obviously. 1.00

00:27:25.000 She says, if we want action, we need to take back the Senate and end the filibuster, etc, etc. 0.99

00:27:30.000 OK, so as I have said, this is dangerous for a couple of reasons.

00:27:33.000 It's deeply dangerous.

00:27:35.000 It is dangerous, number one, because now you have members of Congress, members of the left openly espousing, openly pushing the idea that if you donate to a political cause they don't like, you're complicit in murder.

00:27:45.000 And then they are naming your name and putting your face out there and suggesting that people show up at your house, basically.

00:27:50.000 That is what is going on.

00:27:51.000 Your business be ruined because you support Trump.

00:27:53.000 You want to make sure we can't live in the same country together?

00:27:55.000 Make sure that anyone who disagrees with you gets boycotted, their house protested, their family threatened.

00:28:01.000 Because that's what will happen.

00:28:02.000 That's what has happened.

00:28:04.000 We can stop pretending now that this is not what the left is after because there are too many members of the left who are after this.

00:28:10.000 Now again, I'm going to distinguish.

00:28:11.000 I think there are a lot of liberals who are not in favor of this.

00:28:14.000 But this would be a good time for them to make that clear.

00:28:17.000 Joaquin Castro, by the way, has no good answers for why he just did what he did.

00:28:19.000 MSNBC asked him a question about it.

00:28:21.000 He collapsed in on himself.

00:28:23.000 Well, the first thing is that I don't want anybody harassed or targeted.

00:28:25.000 But they will be because you put their names in public.

00:28:29.000 Look, that was not my intention.

00:28:32.000 But that's what will happen.

00:28:33.000 These things are public.

00:28:35.000 But if you agree that rhetoric can lead to incitement, even if it just triggers one person to do something terrible, does it give you any pause about putting these people's names out in public?

00:28:46.000 Well, Willie, they're already public.

00:28:48.000 They're already out there.

00:28:49.000 There are 11 retirees and one homemaker who are not public.

00:28:53.000 And this was already circulating.

00:28:55.000 I shared it, so I didn't create the graphic.

00:28:57.000 No, he actually put out the graphic himself from his Twitter account.

00:29:00.000 It was not a retweet.

00:29:01.000 So he has no good answers for this.

00:29:02.000 I mean, good for... Who's that asking the question over on MSNBC?

00:29:07.000 I'm sorry.

00:29:08.000 Willie Geist.

00:29:08.000 So good for Willie Geist for actually asking a correct question on MSNBC.

00:29:11.000 I know that's nearly forbidden at MSNBC now.

00:29:13.000 So good for Willie Geist.

00:29:14.000 So why is this so damaging?

00:29:17.000 This is so damaging because right now there is some movement toward what could be some good law.

00:29:22.000 Hey, what that law is a red flag law.

00:29:24.000 So President Trump mentioned this the other day.

00:29:25.000 These are gun violence restraining orders.

00:29:27.000 Now, there's been a divide that has opened up in the pro-Second Amendment community about red flag laws.

00:29:32.000 The case for red flag laws is that if there's somebody in your immediate community, somebody that you know, close family member who is acting dangerous, who's a threat, that you should be able to go to a judge and temporarily, with a showing of evidence, have their ability to own a gun or carry a gun removed from them, and that should sunset, and then you should have to show new evidence that the person shouldn't have their Second Amendment rights restored.

00:29:56.000 And in emergency cases, you can do this, you can have these rights basically revoked for 72 hours if it looks like something violent is going to happen in the immediate future.

00:30:05.000 That is the basic proposal that is on the table with regard to the red flag laws.

00:30:08.000 I want to talk about what the actual red flag laws say and what the objections to the red flag laws is and how the left is actually underscoring that objection in just one second.

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00:33:02.000 So as I say, the right wing proposal, the conservative proposal that's being put forward by a lot of Republicans is a red flag bill.

00:33:14.000 The red flag bill would be the most significant gun control legislation enacted in 20 years, according to the New York Times.

00:33:20.000 What exactly would it do?

00:33:22.000 Well, effectively, what they would do is allow people to go to a judge and request that gun rights be revoked for people who they can show evidence are dangerous.

00:33:33.000 In Ohio, Governor Mike DeWine was shouted down on Sunday by mourners in Dayton demanding that he do something on Tuesday.

00:33:38.000 He urged fellow Republicans in the state legislature to pass measures establishing red flag powers and expanding background checks.

00:33:45.000 Representative Michael Turner went further, he said, Now, again, I think that those gun control measures, the assault, rifle, ban, all that kind of stuff, that's dumb, it's bad policy, it's not going to accomplish the goal that it seeks, and it's going to invade the rights of millions of Americans.

00:34:09.000 But, red flag bills are a little bit different.

00:34:12.000 So, red flag bills, as I say, are designed to prevent people who are dangerous from having guns.

00:34:18.000 It's not restricting the type of gun.

00:34:20.000 Universal background checks have been a failure.

00:34:22.000 And then we have them in California, they're a failure.

00:34:25.000 They are a failure generally simply because there are a lot of people with no criminal history who are able to purchase a gun legally.

00:34:31.000 But more than that, the red flag stuff is more about trying to tailor a solution to the problem.

00:34:36.000 It's trying to find the ability to look at people who are dangerous on incipient level and then target them to take away their Second Amendment rights, at least temporarily.

00:34:46.000 The laws authorize courts to issue orders allowing police to temporarily confiscate firearms for a person deemed by a judge as posing a risk of violence.

00:34:54.000 Often requests for the orders come from relatives and friends concerned about a gun owner who expresses suicidal thoughts or threatens to harm others.

00:35:02.000 The NRA has been fighting extreme risk protection orders in the states for years.

00:35:06.000 That is because they are worried about due process protections.

00:35:09.000 An NRA spokesperson, Katherine Mortenson, said that such orders, quote, at a minimum, must include strong due process protections, require treatment, and include penalties against those who make frivolous claims.

00:35:18.000 All of which seems reasonable to me.

00:35:20.000 If you make a frivolous claim to try and deprive somebody of their Second Amendment rights, then there should be blowback upon you.

00:35:27.000 There's a push for more of the background check expansion.

00:35:31.000 That would be the Manchin-Toomey bill, for example.

00:35:34.000 Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat, said the idea of a red flag law is okay, but it doesn't substitute for a background check bill.

00:35:39.000 Actually, it's much more effective than a background check bill.

00:35:42.000 The evidence for whether extreme risk protection orders work to prevent gun violence is inconclusive, according to a study by the RAND Corporation on the effectiveness of gun safety measures.

00:35:51.000 One of the reasons is because mass shootings are statistically rare.

00:35:55.000 And while they are far too common in the headlines, statistically speaking, compared to the vast bulk of shootings, they are very rare statistically.

00:36:00.000 And so the sample size is just not enough to be able to really dedicate studies on trends to it.

00:36:06.000 Jeffrey Swanson, professor of psychiatry at Duke, says that the laws could make a difference, even if they didn't prevent mass shootings.

00:36:13.000 That's always code for we don't know.

00:36:15.000 Now, again, I've been supportive of red flag laws, but the counter argument that is being put forth by the NRA and friends of mine like Dana Lash is that you cannot trust people to be able to take away other people's gun rights because there are too many people who are going to use that in bad faith.

00:36:31.000 And there are too many judges who are willing to impose such orders in bad faith, meaning And meaning that you'll have somebody like David Frum.

00:36:38.000 David Frum is a columnist over at The Atlantic, and David Frum is very, very dovish on gun rights, to say it mildly.

00:36:46.000 So he put out a picture this morning on Twitter, and it's just a picture of like a 10-year-old holding a gun, and he tweeted out, Well, no, that's not a red flag.

00:36:55.000 What is your proof that the person is actually a danger to himself or others?

00:36:59.000 There are lots of 10-year-olds who are trained to use guns, particularly in the middle of the country.

00:37:03.000 So, no, that is not a red flag.

00:37:05.000 So a lot of folks on the right are saying, I don't want to give anybody the ability to take away my gun because I don't trust these people to act in good faith.

00:37:13.000 This is why I say that when the left targets everybody on the right as a potential shooter or a supporter of a shooter, they're undermining the ability to actually pass laws that could actually do something about this stuff.

00:37:23.000 So normally, we should all be able to agree on a red flag law.

00:37:26.000 And we should be able to agree.

00:37:28.000 You know, I've got a brother, and my brother is a paranoid schizophrenic, and he's been acting out violently against members of his family.

00:37:36.000 I need to go to a judge and prevent him from buying a gun.

00:37:38.000 He's been suggesting he wants to buy a gun.

00:37:40.000 I need to go to a judge and issue a temporary restraining order.

00:37:43.000 I think we can all agree that that would be a proper measure to take.

00:37:46.000 That would be a smart thing to do.

00:37:48.000 But the problem is this.

00:37:50.000 What if I believe, as somebody on the right, that my next door neighbor, who's a Bernie Sanders supporter, and who hates me, and who thinks that President Trump is a white supremacist who wants Latinos shot at an El Paso Walmart, He lives next door to me.

00:38:04.000 I've got a Trump sign on my lawn, and he thinks that that Trump sign is innately violent and terrible, and so he just puts together some sort of claim, goes to a judge, and next thing I know, the police are hauling my guns out of my house.

00:38:17.000 There are a lot of people on the right who are worried about this, and I think that that worry is not an unreasonable one, given the way that the left is treating the right right now, given the way that Democrats are treating anyone who says they will vote for Trump, given the way they are lumping in everybody who is on the right with white supremacists.

00:38:32.000 I think that it undermines the capacity to form legislation.

00:38:35.000 You know, one of the things that you find, especially, it works in the context of guns too.

00:38:39.000 When there are high levels of social capital.

00:38:41.000 Social capital is the amount of trust that we have in one another.

00:38:44.000 When there are high levels of social capital in a community, pretty much any policy works.

00:38:48.000 Most policies work.

00:38:49.000 Even redistributionist policies tend to work when there's high social capital, at least for a period of time before you have a free rider problem.

00:38:56.000 This is what's happened in Norway, for example.

00:38:58.000 So people like to talk about Sweden and Norway.

00:39:00.000 Those are countries that by studies have very high levels of social trust and social capital.

00:39:04.000 Socialism tends to undermine that because you end up with a lot of free riders, but temporarily, because people trust each other, they don't seem to mind redistributionism as much.

00:39:13.000 You don't inside your church, right?

00:39:14.000 Inside your church or inside your synagogue.

00:39:16.000 There's a fair bit of redistributionism.

00:39:18.000 It's voluntary, but it's socially...

00:39:20.000 Accepted and socially promoted.

00:39:22.000 And you like that because there's high levels of social capital.

00:39:25.000 The same thing holds true when it comes to gun violence more generally.

00:39:28.000 In areas of the United States with high levels of trust in your neighbor, gun violence is not a problem, even if everybody owns a gun.

00:39:34.000 And this is true in New Hampshire, for example, or Vermont.

00:39:36.000 In areas where there is very little social capital, meaning you can't trust your neighbor, where crime rates are extraordinarily high, where there are lack of masculine influences, for example, where police presence is not high enough and law enforcement presence isn't high enough, Then, presence of guns will lead to additional violence, or at least contribute to problems of additional violence, and this is what you see in, for example, Chicago every weekend.

00:39:57.000 Social capital lies at the root of the ability to effectually provide legislation that works.

00:40:04.000 As we continue to undermine the social capital and imply that people who live next door to us are nascent shooters and nascent white supremacists, and everyone who disagrees with you is a crazy person about to shoot up a Walmart, Why would any of those people then say, OK, I'm going to grant government the power to come and take away my guns at your word?

00:40:22.000 So as I say, I agree on a general level with red flag laws, I do. 0.99

00:40:27.000 But I certainly hear the critique in a time when Joaquin Castro is suggesting that anyone who donated to Trump needs to be targeted.

00:40:34.000 And in time when I am paying out of my pocket for personal security because I'm being targeted by both white supremacists and Antifa and then being called by mainstream figures on the left, a white supremacist.

00:40:45.000 In that time, listen, I'm not too sanguine about handing more power to government at the word of these people either, at the word of these jokers.

00:40:52.000 It undermines the ability to actually make good legislation.

00:40:56.000 And you know what else undermines the ability to make good legislation?

00:41:00.000 The fact that there is distrust of the left and where they want to stop here.

00:41:04.000 Because as it turns out, the left's attempts to cut down on the Second Amendment are matched only by their attempts to cut down on the First Amendment.

00:41:12.000 So when you listen to the Democrats talk about the Second Amendment, they do so with the sort of snide nastiness that they usually reserve for actual evils.

00:41:22.000 So you end up with Kamala Harris declaring herself dictator. 1.00

00:41:25.000 So Kamala Harris is proposing gun control.

00:41:27.000 Her gun control is basically that she is going to do whatever she wants. 0.97

00:41:30.000 Ultimate power!

00:41:31.000 And then the lightning shoots out of her fingers.

00:41:33.000 Kamala Harris tweeted out, as president, I will take executive action to revoke the licenses of gun manufacturers and dealers that break the law.

00:41:41.000 Maybe she should start, by the way, with all of the dealers that Eric Holder allowed to involve themselves in straw purchases in Fast and Furious.

00:41:51.000 She says, require anyone who sells more than five guns a year to run a background check on all gun sales and ban the importation of AR-15 style assault weapons.

00:42:00.000 Okay, so I'm glad that she is just going to declare this stuff as president.

00:42:03.000 Because, as we all know, the president is a dictator.

00:42:05.000 I'm not fearful at all that she's coming for my guns.

00:42:07.000 Because she just declared herself dictator as soon as she's elected. 1.00

00:42:09.000 That's exciting stuff.

00:42:10.000 And yet Elizabeth Warren has followed suit.

00:42:12.000 She also tweeted out she wanted to take executive action.

00:42:15.000 She said, We need a president willing to take executive action herself. 1.00

00:42:18.000 I'll do everything I can, and I'll lead the fight for gun legislation from the White House.

00:42:22.000 Well, you can lead that fight as much as you want.

00:42:24.000 It's the first part I'm worried about, which is you just taking unilateral executive action.

00:42:28.000 This goes to a deeper problem right now in American politics.

00:42:31.000 As the social capital decays, we don't trust the legislature, which is elected every two years.

00:42:36.000 And which creates gridlock. 0.75

00:42:37.000 Instead, we elect a big man or a big woman and they're supposed to do all the things we want and they're supposed to take revenge against our political enemies. 0.98

00:42:44.000 We're moving in some really dangerous directions in this country.

00:42:47.000 Really, really dangerous directions.

00:42:50.000 So as I say, it's not just crackdowns on the Second Amendment that folks on the right are worried about.

00:42:54.000 It should be crackdowns on the First Amendment. 0.99

00:42:56.000 There's a piece in the New York Times today, a news piece by Melissa Eddy and Aurelien Breeden, saying the El Paso shooting revived the free speech debate.

00:43:04.000 Europe has limits.

00:43:05.000 So now you have the New York Times running full pieces on why we should limit the First Amendment, why we should limit freedom of speech.

00:43:13.000 No, I've said before, I again, I don't know how many times I have to say this, considering that I've been the subject of white supremacist death threats, probably more than most people, more than most people, more than nearly anyone in the United States.

00:43:24.000 OK, given the fact that, again, I have personal security 24-7 around the clock, my family has security.

00:43:30.000 Given that fact, I think it is fair to say that I understand the wages of free speech.

00:43:34.000 I understand the wages of people saying evil things. 0.97

00:43:36.000 There are people on the internet right now who are ranting and raving about what a terrible evil person, what a cuck I am for ripping on white supremacy and threatening me. 0.96

00:43:46.000 This is happening like right at the moment. 0.98

00:43:47.000 I know because it's there.

00:43:50.000 I also have said that free speech shall not be infringed.

00:43:54.000 The First Amendment is a very good thing.

00:43:56.000 If you want a free country, you have to accept the fact that there are going to be people who misuse their rights.

00:44:00.000 Now, when that crosses over into actual threats, into legal incitement, then the police do something about it.

00:44:06.000 So, when somebody from Antifa threatens to come to my house, I call the cops.

00:44:09.000 And when somebody threatens to come and kill me and my family, I'm gonna call the FBI.

00:44:14.000 And there will be an arrest, as there has already been, in at least one case.

00:44:18.000 But the fact that the New York Times is now the New York Times.

00:44:22.000 Weren't they the people who like the case New York Times versus Sullivan about the broad scope of what is publishable in the United States without liability?

00:44:32.000 I thought that that case included the New York Times, like that's why it was in the name New York Times v. Sullivan.

00:44:36.000 Well, now the New York Times is openly calling for European style restrictions on the First Amendment.

00:44:40.000 In Europe, lots of types of speech are banned.

00:44:44.000 You think that the left isn't coming for your free speech?

00:44:46.000 The hard left isn't coming for your free speech?

00:44:48.000 Think again.

00:44:49.000 They already are in Europe.

00:44:50.000 They already are in Canada.

00:44:52.000 It is only a matter of time until this comes to the United States in full force.

00:44:56.000 Not just attempts to curb corporate spending, which is indeed a violation of free speech, but attempts to suggest that hate speech, quote-unquote hate speech, ill-defined should be outlawed.

00:45:07.000 That misgendering should be outlawed.

00:45:08.000 That if you call a biological man a man, it should be outlawed.

00:45:12.000 You already see a lot of corporations doing the dirty work of these activists, these anti-free speech activists, by banning speech that they don't like.

00:45:21.000 Not illegal speech, just speech that they don't like.

00:45:24.000 They're private corporations, they can do what they want, but it contributes to a feeling that free speech Is really not in its healthiest moment in the country, for damn sure.

00:45:33.000 In any case, the New York Times reports, The massacre of 22 people in El Paso, an attack announced in a hate-filled manifesto about an immigrant invasion, has revived debate about the limits of free speech protected by the First Amendment.

00:45:44.000 But in Europe, where history has proved that domestic threats can be as devastating to democracy as those from abroad, freedom of speech, while a constitutional right, comes with certain caveats, where it's not going to be a threat.

00:45:54.000 Restricted in scope and linked to specific threats, these limitations are based on the premise that protecting certain ideals, such as the public good or human dignity, Can justify curbing what individuals are allowed to say.

00:46:06.000 You know how dangerous this is?

00:46:07.000 Way more dangerous to the future of the country than white supremacists ranting online.

00:46:12.000 It is significantly more dangerous to the future of the country if we start curbing free speech on a broad level on the basis of quote public good or human dignity.

00:46:20.000 Then it is to have people ranting on 4chan.

00:46:22.000 And again, the people ranting on 4chan should be monitored by the FBI.

00:46:25.000 They should be arrested if they are getting violent.

00:46:27.000 Obviously, because that is a violation of free speech.

00:46:30.000 But in the long run, what is going to actually collapse the democracy in the United States, collapse the small r-republic of the United States, is not going to be evil people who commit isolated acts of violence.

00:46:41.000 What is going to take down the United States is a broad governmental level attempt to shut down speech that is considered unpalatable.

00:46:49.000 I mean, the founders thought this.

00:46:52.000 Most people in the United States still think this.

00:46:54.000 And that is not downplaying the threat of white supremacy in the slightest.

00:46:57.000 It is a threat. 0.97

00:46:58.000 It is a dangerous, vile threat.

00:47:00.000 And we should be using whatever legal methods are at our disposal in order to fight it.

00:47:04.000 We should be using whatever social methods are at our disposal in order to fight it.

00:47:07.000 But calling for European-style crackdowns in favor of public good or human dignity?

00:47:12.000 Can you imagine anything vaguer than that?

00:47:14.000 It is supremely vague.

00:47:16.000 Now, the Europeans in the aftermath of World War II instituted all sorts of curbs on the sort of speech that could be used because they were afraid that that speech could be used and lead to the rise of Nazism.

00:47:26.000 And in order to protect democracy, you had to engage in a sort of repressive tolerance where everybody who didn't agree with you, at least on a broad level, was shut down.

00:47:37.000 You understand it more in the European context.

00:47:39.000 But the fact, again, remains that in the United States, in the United States, There is no white supremacist takeover of the national government that is even close to happening or remotely possible happening.

00:47:51.000 It's not happening.

00:47:53.000 And so if the idea is we have to curb free speech because of 8chan, not on board with that.

00:47:58.000 And I think a lot of people in the United States are quite fearful that the same left that labels everyone on the right a member of the 8chan community, that they are happy to use vague terms like public good or human dignity to simply shut down speech they don't like.

00:48:12.000 That is a justified fear.

00:48:15.000 And it prevents actual solutions.

00:48:17.000 There's so much that we can all agree on.

00:48:19.000 There's so much we can all agree on.

00:48:21.000 But I can't agree when I think that the ulterior motive of people on the left is to eventually shut down any ability to say what I think.

00:48:28.000 Or my ability to own weaponry.

00:48:30.000 Not gonna get on board with people who I think are using this as a first step to do this.

00:48:34.000 So, show me that you're not.

00:48:35.000 I think there are a lot of people who are not using this as a first step toward an ultimate goal of curbing free speech or curbing Second Amendment rights.

00:48:44.000 But then you should be actively fighting the people who obviously are.

00:48:46.000 The New York Times runs this- I mean, it's unbelievable.

00:48:49.000 Kevin Williamson has a book out about this.

00:48:51.000 About the attempt by so many people, particularly on the left these days, to conflate language I don't like with incitement.

00:48:58.000 The AOC and the squad, they do it all the time.

00:49:00.000 The same squad members like Rashida Tlaib celebrating Joaquin Castro targeting political opponents by name.

00:49:06.000 She is the same person who will say that it is incitement if I say that Ilhan Omar is anti-Semitic.

00:49:12.000 And then presumably should pursue legislation along those lines.

00:49:16.000 The New York Times says free speech is constitutionally enshrined in both Germany and France as it is in the United States.

00:49:21.000 But there's an important difference.

00:49:23.000 Emmanuel Pierrot, a French lawyer who specializes in publishing and free speech says, the big nuance between the First Amendment and the European texts is that the European texts allow for possible limitations on speech.

00:49:34.000 Yes, that is supremely, supremely dangerous in the American context.

00:49:40.000 Trying to conflate violence and speech is one of the habits of the left right now, and it is going to undermine any possibility of living in a republic with one another.

00:49:49.000 You're undermining the fundamental rights upon which the polity was based.

00:49:52.000 You can't do that without damaging the polity itself.

00:49:54.000 Okay, time for a thing I like.

00:49:56.000 And then we'll get to a thing that I hate.

00:49:58.000 So, speaking of social fabric and community, there is a great clip that is going around, has probably 30 million views at this point, of a 94-year-old man appearing in traffic court about a school zone violation.

00:50:11.000 And the judge, who himself has to be in his 60s, and it's just, it's pretty fantastic because it's a reminder that, at root in the United States, the vast majority of us really nearly everyone is trying to be a good person and do the right things and beneath all of our disagreements there should be a common humanity in a liberal republic

00:50:30.000 and here's this clip you are charged with a school zone violation which means that you were exceeding the speed limit in a school zone i don't drive that fast judge i'm I'm 96 years old, and I drive slowly, and I only drive when I have to.

00:50:50.000 I was going to the blood work for my boy.

00:50:53.000 He's handicapped.

00:50:56.000 You were taking your son to the doctor's office?

00:50:58.000 Yeah.

00:50:59.000 I take him for blood work every two weeks, because he's got cancer.

00:51:07.000 You are a good man.

00:51:10.000 You are a good man.

00:51:11.000 You really are what America is all about.

00:51:14.000 Here you are in your 90s and you're still taking care of your family.

00:51:18.000 That's just a wonderful thing for you.

00:51:21.000 Listen sir, I wish you all the best.

00:51:25.000 I wish the best for your son and I wish you good health and your case is dismissed.

00:51:31.000 Good luck to you and God bless you.

00:51:33.000 Thank you.

00:51:35.000 I mean, that's nice.

00:51:36.000 I mean, that's nice.

00:51:37.000 Isn't that nice?

00:51:38.000 Nice.

00:51:39.000 It's a foreign quality these days. 1.00

00:51:41.000 Okay, time for a couple of things that I hate.

00:51:47.000 So according to a new poll, a UK-wide survey, this is from the United Kingdom obviously, reveals the extent to which the younger generation feel disillusioned, is according to the UK Sun, with the majority, 89% of 16 to 29 year olds claiming that their life lacks purpose or meaning.

00:52:02.000 Well maybe that is because of a philosophy that suggests that life lacks purpose or meaning.

00:52:05.000 It turns out human beings really suck at creating their own purpose and their own meaning, and they will find Tribalism they will find they will find distraction they'll find hedonism that human beings are Born to find meaning and if you don't have social institutions that provide that meaning social institutions that provide meaning in acting in freedom and responsibility social institutions that promote freedom and Liberty, along with duty.

00:52:30.000 If you don't have those social institutions, people lack purpose.

00:52:32.000 And that lack of purpose has serious consequences.

00:52:35.000 It leads to depression, it leads to suicide, it leads to drug use.

00:52:38.000 There are actual consequences to believing that there is no purpose in life.

00:52:42.000 And unfortunately, secularism has a tough time filling that gap.

00:52:46.000 Again, I'm very much in favor of secularism's take on the separation between church and state and government, particularly because I don't think that the state should crack down on church.

00:52:54.000 That's really why separation of church and state was created in the first place, so that you didn't have one sect cracking down on other sects.

00:53:00.000 With that said, the fundamental attempt to undermine social institutions in the West has led to a meaninglessness, a crisis of meaninglessness that I write about in my book, The Right Side of History.

00:53:11.000 It's not just a pitch for the book, but my book really does talk about this at length.

00:53:14.000 It's worth reading because it talks about where we used to find purpose and meaning on a community level and on an individual level.

00:53:20.000 Okay, here is a thing that I both hate and like.

00:53:23.000 Because I think this also goes to the moral quandary that the West is experiencing and its inability to recognize the difference between good and evil.

00:53:31.000 The Times of Israel has a report today.

00:53:34.000 Interior Minister Aryeh Derry on Tuesday awarded Israeli residency to a Palestinian man who saved the children of a West Bank rabbi in the aftermath of a deadly terror attack in which the father was killed.

00:53:44.000 Rabbi Mickey Mark was murdered in a July 1, 2016 shooting.

00:53:48.000 His wife Hava was seriously injured.

00:53:50.000 Two of their teenage children were also hurt.

00:53:52.000 The Palestinian rescuer and his wife, who are residents of Hebron, the Hebron area, helped the surviving members of the Mark family escape their overturned vehicle and administered first aid until first responders arrived at the scene.

00:54:04.000 The Palestinian man, who has not been named, received a temporary visa to live and work in Israel after receiving death threats in his hometown near the West Bank city of Hebron.

00:54:13.000 The visa was not renewed in August 2018.

00:54:15.000 He's been homeless, living in limbo in Israel.

00:54:17.000 His plight was revealed recently in a Channel 12 report, and following a campaign by several Israelis, including settler leaders, he was awarded Israeli residency on Tuesday, along with his wife and son.

00:54:28.000 Let me just point out that this guy and his wife helped save the family of a Jew during a terror attack and he was met for that trouble with death threats in the West Bank.

00:54:41.000 He was for saving Jews.

00:54:43.000 Okay, if that doesn't say something about the moral problem between Israel and the Palestinians, I don't know what does. 0.74

00:54:50.000 You save a Jew in the Palestinian areas and you have to flee to Israel for that crime. 0.99

00:54:56.000 Yes, I'm sure that moral equivalency is probably the answer here.

00:54:59.000 All right, we will be back here later today with two additional hours.

00:55:02.000 Otherwise, we'll see you here tomorrow.

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In Love With Rage | Ep. 834

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