The Ben Shapiro Show - INCREDIBLE: US Military Launches Most REMARKABLE Rescue Operation Of All Time

00:00:00.000 The United States just pulled off the most remarkable rescue operation in military history.

00:00:04.000 We'll go through every single detail, what it means for the future of the Iran war, and we will examine why so many Americans are now pretty much openly rooting against America.

00:00:18.000 The United States military just pulled off truly one of the most audacious, spectacular rescue operations in world history, truly world history.

00:00:27.000 We're going to go through every jaw dropping detail because I mean, this is going to be 10 movies.

00:00:32.000 It's unbelievable.

00:00:33.000 No man left behind is not a motto for the United States.

00:00:36.000 It's a thing we do.

00:00:37.000 It's a promise.

00:00:38.000 And America kept that promise, which is why we are awesome.

00:00:41.000 Meanwhile, President Trump is, of course, turning up the heat on the regime leadership or, you know, the ones who are still alive.

00:00:46.000 Secretary of State Marco Rubio is bringing down the hammer on the nieces.

00:00:49.000 Of dead Iranian general Qasem Soleimani.

00:00:52.000 They were living large in LA, dressing like women get punished for dressing in Iran. 0.99

00:00:57.000 We'll examine also why so many Americans are pretty much openly rooting against America, including some of our most brain dead friends on X.

00:01:04.000 So, let's start with this rescue operation.

00:01:04.000 So, a lot to get to today.

00:01:06.000 It's unbelievable.

00:01:07.000 I mean, truly astonishing stuff.

00:01:09.000 Let's start with why it was important.

00:01:10.000 So, America has complete military dominance over the Iranians. 0.98

00:01:14.000 The Iranians have been reduced to firing desultory cruise missile barrages against Israel.

00:01:20.000 Against UAE, firing drones against Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, and harassing shipping in the Strait of Hormuz.

00:01:26.000 But on a pure military level, we are dominating them.

00:01:28.000 Anyone who is telling you differently is just lying to you.

00:01:31.000 They're just lying.

00:01:32.000 There's no ignorance about this.

00:01:34.000 It's just a lie.

00:01:35.000 We have currently flown some 12,000 sorties over Iran.

00:01:40.000 And until Friday, they had shot down zero American planes.

00:01:43.000 Well, apparently, on Friday, they shot down two American planes an A 10 Warthog, which is a relatively low flying plane, and the F 15E, which was shot down apparently by a shoulder fired rocket.

00:01:55.000 But despite that military dominance, despite that military dominance, when that F 15E Strike Eagle went down and it had the pilot inside and a weapons system officer inside, and we rescued the pilot, as we'll talk about, and then it was unclear what had happened with the weapons system officer.

00:02:11.000 If we had not rescued that weapons system officer, if instead he'd been captured by the IRGC or its minions, because the IRGC was hunting all over the hills of Iran for this guy, they'd put out a bounty on his head of some $60,000, which in Iranian dollars is a bajillion dollars, legitimately a bajillion riyals.

00:02:29.000 Well, if the IRGC had gotten a hold of Americans, that would have become leverage for the IRGC in the same exact way that hostages were leveraged for Hamas.

00:02:39.000 I know people are saying that they would have been treated as prisoners of war.

00:02:42.000 We have no evidence that that is the case because the Iranians, of course, are very fond of marching American, quote unquote, prisoners of war in front of cameras.

00:02:50.000 In fact, they did this during the Barack Obama administration when they came into conflict with a small American vessel and then they proceeded to take pictures of Americans on their knees with their hands behind their head.

00:02:59.000 Well, we're currently in a hot war with the Iranians. 0.99

00:03:03.000 Almost certainly, the Iranians would have used his actual life to split the American public. 1.00

00:03:08.000 They almost undoubtedly would have threatened to execute him publicly unless the war ended on their terms, because again, they are a terrorist regime. 0.62

00:03:15.000 So instead, the United States of America pulled off the most audacious, insane military operation in modern history.

00:03:22.000 We moved hundreds, if not thousands, of troops into enemy theater, built a small airstrip overnight, misdirected thousands of enemy troops and operatives, and then we extracted one American under fire more than a day after he originally dropped into Iran after his plane was hit. 1.00

00:03:38.000 America kicks absolute ass. 0.98

00:03:41.000 And one aspect of that ass kickage is that we deny our enemies the ability to stop us short in our war mission. 0.99

00:03:47.000 And we'll get to what comes next. 0.95

00:03:49.000 But first, we have to talk about this insane story because it really is a quite insane story.

00:03:56.000 So, the F 15 Strike Eagle was struck over Iran on Friday.

00:04:04.000 And this is a picture here of one of the ejection seats of one of the members of the crew.

00:04:11.000 You can see it here.

00:04:12.000 Both crew members lived.

00:04:14.000 According to the New York Times, two crew members ejected from their fighter jet just seconds after it was hit by Iranian fire.

00:04:22.000 That F 15 East Strike Eagle was the first fighter jet lost to enemy fire in the entire war, which, again, is just evidence of how dominant we have been militarily.

00:04:29.000 And it crashed violently to the ground.

00:04:31.000 Both Air Force officers were deep in hostile territory on Friday morning, alone and armed only with pistol.

00:04:37.000 The plane's pilot was in constant communication with his unit.

00:04:40.000 He was rescued almost immediately, about six hours later, by a force that included attack planes and helicopters under heavy fire.

00:04:47.000 And there's video of all that.

00:04:48.000 You can see people contemporaneously on the ground in Iran firing small weapons at helicopters.

00:04:55.000 But the aircraft's weapon systems officer, according to the New York Times, was missing.

00:05:01.000 So he had become separated from the pilot because, again, the plane was going down.

00:05:06.000 And on the ground in Iran, he basically had to just survive on his own.

00:05:10.000 Apparently, he was concussed.

00:05:12.000 In the immediate aftermath, he was unconscious.

00:05:14.000 He woke up, he sent a signal, and then he proceeded to hike up a 7,000 foot ridgeline and then wedge himself into a crevice to hide from Iranian operatives.

00:05:25.000 Because as we'll talk about in a moment, the Iranians were looking everywhere for him.

00:05:29.000 They knew that he was a key piece of leverage in this war.

00:05:33.000 Meanwhile, US CENTCOM had prepared a statement that the plane had gone down and that the pilot had been rescued.

00:05:39.000 And they were about to release that statement, but they didn't end up releasing it.

00:05:42.000 Why?

00:05:43.000 Well, because just as they were about to release the statement, this was 14 hours after the fighter jet was hit, US officials actually got a lock on the weapons officer's location via a beacon that he was carrying.

00:05:54.000 And so they scrapped the statement because they didn't want to give additional information to the Iranians.

00:06:00.000 And Defense Secretary Pete Hexett then called President Trump.

00:06:03.000 And told him they needed to keep information about the pilot's rescue as secret as possible because it would give away where people were in Iran.

00:06:12.000 Meanwhile, Iran had launched a bunch of search parties, and one of them had assembled at the base of the mountain where the weapons officer was hiding, according to the New York Times.

00:06:21.000 Again, it's astonishing stuff.

00:06:22.000 This is true movie stuff.

00:06:26.000 So the CIA developed a deception plan to try to buy some time.

00:06:31.000 They spread word in Iran that the airman had already been found and was already moving out of the country.

00:06:36.000 And the hope was that the Iranians would redirect their resources from like the base of the mountain where he actually was hiding to the roads out of the region to try to stop any sort of exit mission. 0.71

00:06:47.000 And according to the Times, the CIA operation worked.

00:06:50.000 It caused confusion among the Iranian forces hunting for the airman.

00:06:55.000 Then the Iranians decided to intensify their search.

00:06:57.000 And they went on the state's primary broadcaster and they made an offer for a reward to capture the enemy's pilot or pilots and turn them over alive to security forces.

00:07:07.000 So now you have a bunch of people who are watching now.

00:07:10.000 The pilot and the weapons systems officer were lucky in the fact, not only that they ended up living, but the area where they landed was an area hostile to the Iranian government.

00:07:21.000 When we say that a ton of Iranians hate the Iranian government, this is absolutely true. 1.00

00:07:26.000 This is absolutely true.

00:07:28.000 And there have been Early reports that members of the Iranian population were attempting to obstruct the Iranian operatives in their attempts to find the weapons systems officer.

00:07:40.000 U.S. military officials, meanwhile, were preparing a vast, complex rescue mission involving 100 special operations forces led by elements of SEAL Team 6.

00:07:48.000 Delta Force commandos and Army Rangers were on standby if needed.

00:07:53.000 The Wall Street Journal reports that troops led by CENTCOM brought a devastating array of firepower to keep the enemy at bay.

00:08:00.000 They brought four B 1 bombers, dropped nearly 102,000 pound satellite guided bombs, according to two U.S. officials.

00:08:06.000 MQ 9 Reaper drones also struck suspected fighters as they approached within kilometers.

00:08:11.000 Of the aviator's hiding site.

00:08:12.000 So basically, we're blowing people away as soon as they got within some sort of radius of the weapons systems officer.

00:08:20.000 Now, meanwhile, we were still trying to determine whether this was him because a lot of people can put out signals, including the Iranians.

00:08:28.000 The CIA had a special piece of technology unique to the agency to locate the airman hiding in the crevice.

00:08:35.000 U.S. and Israeli officials gathered intel to determine if the airman was alone, surrounded by Iranians, or had been captured again, pointing out Israel was an excellent ally helping us find our downed airman.

00:08:47.000 Well, once the Pentagon had confirmed who the guy was and that this wasn't actually the Iranians just sending out a false signal to lure us into some sort of trap, Hegseth rushed to the Oval Office and President Trump immediately gave his approval.

00:09:01.000 He said, We have to get him.

00:09:03.000 So that's when the actual rescue mission began.

00:09:05.000 According to the New York Times, after dark, senior military officials waited and then they launched.

00:09:12.000 Special operations helicopters loaded with commandos raced to the remote mountain site where he was waiting.

00:09:18.000 A senior U.S. official says this is the most challenging and complex operation in the history of special operations because they had to do this in the mountains.

00:09:27.000 They had to assume that Iranian forces would rush to attack them, and they didn't know how healthy or unhealthy the weapons systems officer was.

00:09:36.000 As the commandos apparently landed on the objective, according to the New York Times, U.S. and Israeli warplanes dropped bombs whose bright orange blasts lit up the silhouettes of the surrounding mountains.

00:09:46.000 And the commandos weren't in a live firefight because the Iranians were too far away. 1.00

00:09:49.000 But they were firing their weapons continuously in order to avoid the possibility of Iranians rushing the site.

00:09:58.000 So, the wounded airman was then rushed to a helicopter.

00:10:02.000 It whisked him off to this jerry rigged airstrip inside Iran.

00:10:07.000 Special Operations Forces had built this kind of tiny airstrip in the middle of Iran for possible rescues or other contingencies.

00:10:15.000 And the plan was to load him and all the rescue force onto two C 130 aircraft to get them out of danger and out to Kuwait.

00:10:23.000 But, final twist of fate it turns out the nose gear of at least one and possibly both of those planes got stuck in the sandy dirt at the airstrip.

00:10:33.000 So, there was a contingency plan.

00:10:35.000 Three smaller planes then landed, carrying specialized teams, and they made their way to the remote staging area.

00:10:42.000 And, according to the New York Times, the commandos and the injured weapons system operator were reloaded onto three newly arrived replacement aircraft.

00:10:51.000 After the rescue team left, American warplanes bombed the two disabled planes rather than letting them fall into Iranian hands.

00:10:56.000 And I have to say, the propaganda on X is astonishing because we blew up these planes.

00:11:01.000 Okay, we blew up these planes to avoid the Joe Biden Afghanistan problem of just leaving.

00:11:06.000 Useful military technology in the hands of the enemy.

00:11:09.000 So there went two of our some 600 C 130s.

00:11:14.000 So we blew those up, and the Iranians immediately took footage of this and said, Look what we did. 0.99

00:11:19.000 Look what we were capable of.

00:11:21.000 Okay, my dudes, let me explain how dominant the US military is.

00:11:25.000 We lost one person, one, in Iran, and we mobilized 100 special operators, massive military wherewithal, landed in your territory.

00:11:38.000 Found our guy, got out with zero casualties, and blew up our own planes just because they were stuck in the sand.

00:11:46.000 That's how dominant we are.

00:11:49.000 Absolute domination by the United States military, an astonishing feat of logistics, firepower, and will, by the way.

00:11:58.000 Because, yes, it actually takes some guts to do what the United States just did, putting many men at risk in order to save one.

00:12:06.000 And again, it's not possible to script a story this insane and also inspirational.

00:12:13.000 So, this pilot, this plane, they were shot down on Good Friday.

00:12:18.000 Saturday is when the search was going on.

00:12:21.000 It was late Saturday night, moving into Easter morning, when the actual rescue took place.

00:12:27.000 And apparently, according to Axios, President Trump said the weapons system officer gave a short, unusual message over his radio after ejecting from the aircraft.

00:12:37.000 He said, Power be to God.

00:12:38.000 A U.S. defense official confirmed Trump's account, but said the exact phrase was God is good.

00:12:44.000 People who know the officer, Say that he was a religious person and it made sense for him to say that.

00:12:49.000 And the defense official confirmed that account.

00:12:53.000 It was not completely clear early on.

00:12:54.000 We stuck with it and verified he was alive and not captured.

00:12:57.000 And those who knew him said he's religious.

00:12:58.000 One of the ways they were able to identify who it was that was talking is because he said God is good, which is just, just crazy and super American and wonderful in every way.

00:13:08.000 And if it doesn't make you want to, this whole story doesn't make you want to pick up an American flag and start waving it, I don't know what's wrong with you.

00:13:14.000 There's something wrong with you.

00:13:16.000 No matter where you stand politically, if this story does not make you want to pick up an American flag and wave it on behalf of the American military, I don't know what is wrong with you.

00:13:27.000 President Trump put out a statement confirming the rescue of the Americans, quote, from President Donald J. Trump.

00:13:34.000 We got him.

00:13:35.000 My fellow Americans, over the past several hours, the United States military pulled off one of the most daring search and rescue operations in U.S. history for one of our incredible crew member officers, who also happens to be a highly respected colonel and who I am thrilled to let you know is now safe and sound.

00:13:49.000 This brave warrior was behind enemy lines in the treacherous mountains of Iran, being hunted down by our enemies, who are getting closer and closer by the hour, but was never truly alone because his commander in chief, secretary of war, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, And fellow warfighters were monitoring his location 24 hours a day and diligently planning for his rescue.

00:14:08.000 At my direction, the U.S. military sent dozens of aircraft armed with the most lethal weapons in the world to retrieve him.

00:14:12.000 He sustained injuries, says the president, but he will be just fine.

00:14:16.000 This miraculous search and rescue operation comes in addition to a successful rescue of another brave pilot yesterday, which we did not confirm because we did not want to jeopardize our second rescue operation.

00:14:25.000 This is the first time in military memory that two U.S. pilots have been rescued separately deep in enemy territory.

00:14:30.000 We will never leave an American warfighter behind.

00:14:32.000 The fact that we were able to pull off both of these operations without a single American killed or even wounded just proves once again that we have achieved overwhelming air dominance and superiority over Iranian skies.

00:14:42.000 This is a moment all Americans, Republican, Democrat, and everyone else, should be proud of and united around.

00:14:47.000 We truly have the best, most professional, and lethal military in the history of the world, says the president.

00:14:51.000 God bless America.

00:14:52.000 God bless our troops.

00:14:53.000 And happy Easter to all.

00:14:55.000 An insane story.

00:14:57.000 And apparently, we know that this pilot, this weapons systems officer, operator, we know that he was surviving.

00:15:07.000 Based on special training, survival, evasion, resistance, and escape training.

00:15:11.000 The Wall Street Journal has a good report talking about what that is.

00:15:14.000 Basically, people who are flying over enemy territory are trained to survive in enemy territory.

00:15:22.000 And that includes, according to the Wall Street Journal, a set of actions, including sizing up the situation, addressing wounds, determining how to hide, value living, and that doing so might require enduring discomfort, and learning the basics, and then evade.

00:15:39.000 So, the pilot is supposed to have a rescue plan, a contingency plan before each mission for evading and executing an exit strategy.

00:15:48.000 The downed aviator is going to need to know how to resist. 0.59

00:15:51.000 In this particular case, the downed aviator had a pistol, but we don't actually know what he had to do.

00:15:57.000 And then finally, escape.

00:15:59.000 So, apparently, this downed aviator had to intermittently signal because he was afraid that if he continuously signaled, the Iranians would catch on to where he was and then they would capture him.

00:16:08.000 Amazing, amazing stuff.

00:16:11.000 And as former CENTCOM Commander General Frank McKenzie says, the most amazing thing here is that, yes, we have the aircraft, yes, we have the military capacity, yes, we have the expertise, but we also have the value of leave no man behind.

00:16:29.000 Every time we send air crew over enemy territory, we have detailed, elaborate plans to go get them.

00:16:34.000 It's a very basic part of who we are as American fighting men and women.

00:16:39.000 So that plan swung into action.

00:16:41.000 I think it was executed pretty effectively.

00:16:44.000 As always, you've got somebody on the ground, maybe injured.

00:16:47.000 They've got to get to a position where they can hide until you can get to them.

00:16:50.000 All that seemed to work out very well.

00:16:52.000 And, you know, we did, in fact, lose a couple of aircraft in that mission.

00:16:57.000 But I would just tell you, it takes a year to build an aircraft.

00:17:00.000 It takes 200 years to build a military tradition where you don't leave anybody behind.

00:17:04.000 You take the aircraft trade any day in a situation like this.

00:17:08.000 This is exactly right.

00:17:09.000 So, here's the thing.

00:17:11.000 Not only is this just a great kick ass American story that should be inspirational to everybody, it also is really important because we are, in fact, drawing nearer to the end of this campaign in Iran.

00:17:21.000 All right, in a second, we'll get to what happens next after this rescue operation.

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00:19:57.000 So, to determine what comes next, we first have to determine objectives.

00:20:00.000 So, Wednesday night, which is a long time ago now, but I was off for Passover, the president gave a national address talking about what exactly he wanted to accomplish here.

00:20:12.000 And he started off by saying there can be no nuclear weapon in Iran.

00:20:17.000 From the very first day I announced my campaign for president in 2015, I have vowed that I would never allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon. 0.67

00:20:29.000 This fanatical regime has been chanting death to America, death to Israel for 47 years.

00:20:37.000 Their proxies were behind the murder of 241 Americans in the Marine Barracks bombing in Beirut, the slaughter of hundreds of our service members with roadside bombs.

00:20:50.000 They were involved in the attack on the USS Cole, and they carried out the countless other heinous acts, including the blood, just horrible, bloody atrocities of October 7th in Israel, something that most people have never seen anything like it.

00:21:10.000 This murderous regime also recently killed 45,000 of their own people who were protesting in Iran, 45,000 dead.

00:21:20.000 For these terrorists to have nuclear weapons would be an intolerable.

00:21:24.000 Threat.

00:21:26.000 Now, as the president pointed out in the speech, he said, Listen, we tried diplomacy over and over and over and over.

00:21:31.000 Iran continued to reject the diplomacy.

00:21:34.000 Here's the president last Wednesday.

00:21:36.000 My first preference was always the path of diplomacy, yet the regime continued their relentless quest for nuclear weapons and rejected every attempt at an agreement.

00:21:50.000 So the president in that speech said that the next two to three weeks would be the decisive point in the war.

00:21:54.000 He said that we were going to hit them hard over the next two to three weeks.

00:22:00.000 We're going to hit them extremely hard over the next two to three weeks. 0.90

00:22:05.000 We're going to bring them back to the Stone Ages where they belong. 0.82

00:22:10.000 In the meantime, discussions are ongoing.

00:22:13.000 Regime change was not our goal.

00:22:15.000 We never said regime change, but regime change has occurred because of all of their original leaders' death.

00:22:24.000 They're all dead.

00:22:26.000 The new group is less radical and much more reasonable.

00:22:30.000 Yet, if during this period of time no deal is made, we have our eyes on key targets.

00:22:37.000 Okay, so that last point, that there is a more moderate regime in place, we have yet to see the public evidence that that is in fact the case.

00:22:43.000 There are apparently cracks inside the Iranian regime.

00:22:46.000 Unclear with whom the United States is currently negotiating.

00:22:49.000 Are we negotiating with Mohammad Khalibaf, who's the head of the parliament?

00:22:52.000 Are we negotiating with President Massoud Pajeshkin, who's widely perceived as a weak horse in the Middle East?

00:22:58.000 We're certainly not negotiating with the IRGC because they themselves have basically said they're willing to ride this thing all the way into the ashman of history.

00:23:06.000 Well, on Thursday, the United States blew up the B 1 bridge in Iran.

00:23:10.000 The B 1 bridge is a very, very large structure in Iran.

00:23:14.000 We blew a hole in it.

00:23:16.000 Again, one of the reasons that you blow up bridges is because military material is moved via bridge.

00:23:21.000 And as we are going to discuss more widely, there's been a lot of talk about quote unquote war crimes, war crimes meaning the targeting of dual use resources.

00:23:30.000 Dual use means that it can be used for military purposes and also for non military purposes.

00:23:35.000 So if you target an electrical grid, and that electrical grid is used by the military and it's also used by civilians, Then, is that necessarily a quote unquote war crime?

00:23:44.000 The answer is no.

00:23:45.000 It is not necessarily a war crime.

00:23:46.000 It depends on the proportionality of what you are doing.

00:23:49.000 What is the objective you are seeking to achieve?

00:23:51.000 How effective is the taking down of an electrical grid in actually achieving that military end?

00:23:56.000 And how many people have to be damaged?

00:23:59.000 It turns out that the laws of war have a lot of shades of gray to them.

00:24:03.000 And so, anybody who is telling you that it's a war crime to bomb a bridge, well, no, it depends on the bridge and it depends on the military purpose of bombing the bridge because every bridge is, of course, an object and the object can be used for many reasons.

00:24:16.000 Meanwhile, President Trump on Friday put out a statement on Truth Social saying basically that he just needs more time.

00:24:23.000 Quote, with a little more time, we can easily open the Hormuz Strait, take the oil, and make a fortune.

00:24:27.000 It would be a gusher for the world, President Trump.

00:24:29.000 So, some of what the president is doing here is, of course, talking down the market.

00:24:33.000 He's trying to tell people that this thing is coming to an end, that it'll just take a little bit more time.

00:24:37.000 And, of course, that seems to be a veiled reference to the taking of Karg Island, which the president mentioned all the way back in 1987.

00:24:43.000 The president has a habit of actually doing the things he said he would do 40 years ago.

00:24:48.000 So, it would not be a gigantic surprise for the United States.

00:24:50.000 You simply take Karg Island, which is the source of 90% of all Iranian oil exports.

00:24:57.000 The Iranian economy is 60 to 65% oil exports, and it's 30 to 35% petrochemical exports, which we'll get to in just a little while.

00:25:05.000 And then finally, on Sunday, the president's patience is gone.

00:25:08.000 And the president put out a statement that has launched 1,000 think pieces because he used a bad word, he used a naughty word.

00:25:13.000 He actually used two naughty words here, and people are very upset about the naughty words.

00:25:17.000 He said Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped up in one in Iran.

00:25:21.000 There will be nothing like it.

00:25:22.000 Open the effing strait.

00:25:23.000 There are some charms to the fact that effing, he didn't actually put the G.

00:25:26.000 It was effing with an apostrophe. 1.00

00:25:28.000 Effing straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. 1.00

00:25:31.000 Just watch. 1.00

00:25:32.000 Praise be to Allah, President Donald J. Trump.

00:25:35.000 Okay, I know there are some people who are upset about this.

00:25:38.000 There are a lot of people who are suggesting that the tweet itself is a war crime.

00:25:38.000 I know.

00:25:41.000 Okay, no, it's not.

00:25:43.000 Second of all, when he says that it's going to be power plant day and bridge day, again, it depends on which power plants and which bridges and how much of an asset they are to the regime.

00:25:53.000 Yes, if we just blew up a bridge in the middle of an Iranian town, far from the fighting centers, that has nothing to do with the material goal of the war, that would in fact be a violation of the laws of war, such as they are, or American military standards.

00:26:07.000 However, if you blow up a power plant because the power plant is generating the power on behalf of the IRGC, if you blow up a petrochemical facility because it is a key element in funding the continuation of the Iranian regime, that is a different story.

00:26:23.000 The president added in a follow up.

00:26:25.000 That Iran's deadline would be Tuesday, 8 p.m. Eastern.

00:26:27.000 Of course, that is, you know, a day and a half from now.

00:26:31.000 As far as the Strait of Hormuz, the fact is that Iran does not have basically any regular naval assets, as the Wall Street Journal points out.

00:26:42.000 The real problem is that Iran has about 1,000 miles of coastline along the Persian Gulf, dominated by mountains and caves, tunnels under the rocks, ones hidden by mangroves and salt caves.

00:26:52.000 There's an island called Keshem Island.

00:26:54.000 It's particularly problematic.

00:26:56.000 So, can we reopen it?

00:26:58.000 The answer is we certainly can.

00:26:59.000 It will take a serious military operation.

00:27:02.000 To do so, we'll get to more on this in just one moment.

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00:28:28.000 Well, in the meantime, mediators, particularly via Pakistan, have been trying to make a last ditch push.

00:28:34.000 For some sort of 45 day ceasefire.

00:28:37.000 They've now reduced that, apparently, to a 20 day ceasefire or so.

00:28:42.000 According to Axios, the U.S., Iran, and a group of regional mediators are discussing the terms for a potential 45 day ceasefire that could lead to a permanent talk to the end of the war, according to four U.S. Israeli and regional sources with knowledge of the talks.

00:28:54.000 Of course, it's Barack Ravid reporting, which means that it's the, as always, restrainer wing of the Trump administration that is leaking to him.

00:29:02.000 Those are the people who talked to Barack Ravid.

00:29:04.000 The sources said.

00:29:05.000 The chances for reaching a partial deal over the next 48 hours are slim.

00:29:07.000 And they're not slim because the United States is not willing to make a deal.

00:29:10.000 The deal that we would absolutely make right now is give us your nuclear materials and reopen the strait.

00:29:16.000 That would be it.

00:29:17.000 Those are the two chief priorities at this point for the administration nuclear materials out because we know they have enriched uranium to 60% and reopen the strait.

00:29:27.000 And Iran doesn't want to do that.

00:29:28.000 And you have to ask yourself, why doesn't Iran want to do that? 0.88

00:29:30.000 And the answer is because the Iranian economy is so weak that they had millions of people out in the streets before the war.

00:29:37.000 Before the war.

00:29:38.000 Understand the situation the Iranian regime finds itself in by its own making. 0.53

00:29:42.000 Three years ago, Iran thought of itself as bestriding the Middle East with the octopus arms of its terror proxies. 0.82

00:29:50.000 All the way from Yemen up through Lebanon and Syria and Iraq.

00:29:54.000 And then, because of October 7th, those terror proxies got absolutely hammered.

00:29:58.000 Hamas basically turned into a vestigial organ. 0.58

00:30:01.000 Hezbollah, so reduced in its power that the Israeli military can simply push up into Lebanon and blow the bridges on Latani to prevent Hezbollah from re entering southern Lebanon.

00:30:11.000 Hezbollah hit so hard that the Syrian regime actually fell.

00:30:15.000 The terror arms of Iran have been cut off one by one over the course of the last couple of years.

00:30:20.000 And meanwhile, Two direct wars now in Iran have destroyed Iran's air defenses, destroyed its navy, destroyed its air force, none of which exist anymore, and reduced it to basically shooting tens of thousands of people in the streets in order to maintain power.

00:30:35.000 And they have no functional economy.

00:30:37.000 As we pointed out on the show, the Iranian government had been using methodologies of tyrannical states essentially to maintain a 42,000 rial to the American dollar exchange rate.

00:30:52.000 And the only way they could do that, because the rial is worth actually nothing. Is by threatening that anyone who engaged in black market currency exchange or bought product that the Iranian government didn't know about from abroad would be prosecuted, jailed, killed, whatever.

00:31:06.000 Well, they lost total control of the rial at the end of last year.

00:31:09.000 And suddenly, that fake exchange rate, that $42,000 to $1 exchange rate, skyrocketed to 900,000 rial to the dollar.

00:31:18.000 And before the war, it was up to 1.4 million rial to the dollar, which is to say money is worthless in Iran.

00:31:24.000 There is no economy.

00:31:25.000 And that's why people were out in the streets before the war.

00:31:28.000 Okay, well, now.

00:31:29.000 They've been reduced in their military capacity.

00:31:31.000 Their ballistic missile launchers are largely gone.

00:31:34.000 Their forward capacity with their terrorist arms, basically gone.

00:31:38.000 Their nuclear program under mountains of rock.

00:31:41.000 So, what do they have left?

00:31:43.000 How do they maintain power with no economy, with no ability to pay their guys, with no forward capacity?

00:31:49.000 What can they do?

00:31:50.000 And the answer is the only thing that they can do, truly, is race to a nuke.

00:31:55.000 That is the only thing they can do.

00:31:57.000 They can race to a nuke.

00:31:58.000 And that is what prompted.

00:31:59.000 Presumably, this current action was the idea that Iran was so trapped, the only way they could break out was a breakout to a nuclear weapon and turn themselves into a hermit state like North Korea. 0.84

00:32:09.000 So that is the reason why they won't just give up the nukes.

00:32:11.000 If they give up the nukes, they're gone.

00:32:13.000 They know it.

00:32:14.000 If they give up their nuclear capacity or the race to a nuke, then they are a weakened military structure sitting atop a population of 90 million people, most of whom hate them.

00:32:24.000 And that is incredibly dangerous for them.

00:32:28.000 And so now the real question is going to be, Making permanent that state of affairs.

00:32:32.000 Because let's say that the regime does not go down right now, which it probably will not.

00:32:35.000 If the regime does not go down in the next few weeks, then the question becomes how does the United States achieve its goals?

00:32:40.000 Well, one, we obviously need to get the nuclear materials.

00:32:44.000 That might involve some sort of special operation like the one we just saw to save the American pilots.

00:32:50.000 And two, we can leave their economy in tatters so that they do not have the capacity to pay their own guys.

00:32:56.000 This, by the way, is precisely what happened with Bashar Assad in Syria.

00:32:59.000 Bashar Assad had his Praetorian Guard, and he stopped being able to pay them.

00:33:03.000 And his Praetorian Guard, which was partially comprised of Hezbollah, had been hit so hard that there was no one left to guard him, and so he fled.

00:33:11.000 This is presumably why Israel has now hit. 0.95

00:33:14.000 Iran's largest petrochemical facility, responsible for about 85% of all petrochemical exports in the country, which is to say 30 to 35% of the Iranian export economy.

00:33:25.000 And again, it wouldn't be necessary for the United States to actually grab Kharg Island.

00:33:29.000 It would not.

00:33:30.000 If the United States did two things, this war would basically be over.

00:33:32.000 If the United States did a special operation to seize nuclear materials, that would take that priority off the table.

00:33:38.000 And two, if the United States just bombed Kharg Island, forget about actually taking it.

00:33:43.000 If the United States just destroyed it, Which we could easily do because, again, complete air superiority.

00:33:50.000 The Iranian economy would no longer be extant.

00:33:53.000 It would not have any capacity at all.

00:33:55.000 Their petrochemical facilities would be gone.

00:33:57.000 Their oil export facilities would be gone.

00:33:58.000 Their economy would be complete toast.

00:34:01.000 And then, even if they ended up with some sort of vestigial control of the Strait of Hormuz, they wouldn't have, presumably, the guys they could pay to keep it closed so we could bomb those areas.

00:34:01.000 Complete toast.

00:34:13.000 Or, two, we could do what President Trump has threatened to do and just leave it for the Asians and the Europeans and say, listen, You guys get your oil from there, but guess what?

00:34:20.000 We don't get our oil from there.

00:34:22.000 The amount of oil that moves via the Strait of Hormuz that ends up in the United States, of the 100% of oil moving through the Strait of Hormuz, 2.5% of it goes to the US.

00:34:33.000 The vast majority of it goes to China and Japan.

00:34:37.000 China gets one third of all their imported oil from the Strait of Hormuz.

00:34:41.000 Do you think that the Chinese want the Strait of Hormuz permanently closed?

00:34:45.000 And let's be clear even if Iran were to keep it closed and then toll all those ships that are moving through, That would not make up, not remotely, for the loss of Karga Island and their petrochemical facilities. 0.56

00:34:56.000 There's not a tax that people can pay to move through the strait that would actually pay for all of that.

00:35:01.000 And so they would be forced, presumably, to put confiscatory rates on all of those ships.

00:35:05.000 And then the question is does China want that?

00:35:07.000 Does Japan want that? 0.99

00:35:09.000 Do the Europeans want that? 0.96

00:35:11.000 That is the calculation that's currently taking place on a military level.

00:35:15.000 Meanwhile, Israel is not ending its destruction of the IRGC regime.

00:35:20.000 Israel took out yesterday.

00:35:22.000 Iran's intelligence chief, a guy named Majid Khademi.

00:35:25.000 He was probably the number two ranking person in IRGC.

00:35:29.000 So, again, they keep appointing people and those people keep dying.

00:35:32.000 Well, you knew that the Europeans were going to be complete pansies about all of this because that is their way. 1.00

00:35:38.000 Emmanuel Macron is, quote unquote, advocating for a third way.

00:35:41.000 This is last Friday in South Korea.

00:35:44.000 Well, as Norman Schwarzkopf once famously, supposedly said, going to war without the French is like.

00:35:53.000 Going to war without an accordion.

00:35:55.000 And we don't actually need them, in other words.

00:35:59.000 I'm not sure exactly why we would be listening to the ravings of Emmanuel Macron.

00:36:04.000 Here he was.

00:36:07.000 I don't believe that we will fix the situation just by bombings or by military operations.

00:36:15.000 Look at what happened with this type of operation in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Libya.

00:36:22.000 We never delivered.

00:36:24.000 Never.

00:36:25.000 Even after 20 years.

00:36:27.000 So you have to respect the sovereignty of people.

00:36:29.000 If people want to change a regime, they want to react, step up, they can do so.

00:36:34.000 Having such an agenda shared by Korea, France, and bringing with us the other Europeans.

00:36:43.000 Canada, Japan, India, Brazil, Australia, you start having a sort of third way.

00:36:52.000 Those who don't want to be dependent on China are aligned by definition with the US.

00:37:03.000 Well, let's see how that goes for you.

00:37:05.000 Seriously, if you remain unaligned with the United States, but you also want to stay out of the clutches of China, let's be real. 0.98

00:37:11.000 I don't think it's going to work out all that well for you because we'll see how Europe defends itself when we decide.

00:37:16.000 that basically your problems are your problems.

00:37:19.000 So President Trump did an interview with the UK Telegraph.

00:37:21.000 He was asked if he would reconsider the US's membership in NATO.

00:37:24.000 And he said, Oh, yes, I would say it's beyond reconsideration.

00:37:27.000 I was never swayed by NATO.

00:37:29.000 I always knew they were a paper tiger.

00:37:30.000 And Putin knows that too.

00:37:31.000 We've been there automatically, including Ukraine.

00:37:33.000 Ukraine wasn't our problem.

00:37:34.000 It was a test.

00:37:35.000 We would always have been there for them.

00:37:35.000 We were there for them.

00:37:37.000 They weren't there for us.

00:37:39.000 And now again, I think it's in the United States' interest to stop Russia from ingesting Ukraine. 0.93

00:37:43.000 But his point about NATO is correct.

00:37:45.000 We would have protected NATO.

00:37:47.000 We would have protected Ukraine, regardless of whether there was a NATO, but is it reciprocal?

00:37:52.000 Does NATO help us when we require the help, especially when it's in their interest?

00:37:56.000 Every single country in Europe understands that the IRGC is a threat to them and their interests and their oil interests via the Red Sea and via the Persian Gulf, and they won't do a damn thing.

00:38:06.000 Well, Secretary of State Rubio, who again is quite pro European, he said, You know, you break it, you bought it.

00:38:13.000 You don't want to be our friends.

00:38:14.000 Well, then it's not going to go that well for you with us.

00:38:18.000 One of the reasons why I've been a supporter of NATO is because I believe that these basing rights give us leverage and give us, uh, flexibility and operational capability all over the world.

00:38:28.000 But if NATO is just about us defending Europe if they're attacked, but them denying us basing rights when we need them, that's not a very good arrangement.

00:38:35.000 That's a hard one to stay engaged in and say this is good for the United States.

00:38:39.000 So all of that's gonna have to be re-examined.

00:38:41.000 All of it's gonna have to be re-examined.

00:38:46.000 So, again, he is not wrong about all of that.

00:38:48.000 Meanwhile, the Iranian regime is basically responding with their usual impotent or semi impotent outrage.

00:38:56.000 Here is a chart of the Iranian regime and who has died inside the Iranian regime at this point.

00:39:03.000 Yeah, that's a lot of dead people inside the Iranian regime.

00:39:06.000 It has not gone well for them.

00:39:08.000 Every one of those markers that is in black and white or with a small red insignia on it, those are the people who are dead.

00:39:16.000 That is a lot of people in their regime who are gone.

00:39:19.000 A lot of people who are gone at this point.

00:39:22.000 And so, what they are left to do at this point is basically outlast.

00:39:26.000 Now, let's say the Iranian regime survives, but it's a rump regime. 0.56

00:39:30.000 They're losing their power. 0.94

00:39:31.000 The only thing they can do is shoot their constituents in the streets.

00:39:35.000 They don't have an economy to speak of, they don't have any forward operating power to speak of.

00:39:40.000 Every so often, they can fire a missile at Israel that puts people in their basements for a few minutes.

00:39:45.000 All they can do is threaten the UAE. 0.98

00:39:47.000 Or Bahrain with some drones, if that's what they are reduced to, then the war has been a massive success. 1.00

00:39:55.000 China, for its part, is trying to prop up the Iranians because China recognizes that if Iran were to actually flip into some sort of secularized pro America regime, then they would be in serious economic trouble.

00:40:05.000 Because again, 33% of all oil imported into China is coming via the Strait of Hormuz, and 13% of all Chinese oil that is imported is coming directly from Iran.

00:40:18.000 So China. 0.66

00:40:20.000 Utilizes Iran basically as its gas station. 1.00

00:40:24.000 But will even they have an interest in propping up Iran if it turns out that Iran is now taxing Chinese ships?

00:40:30.000 How is that going to work out particularly well for them?

00:40:33.000 Will they seek to find some sort of off ramp with Saudi Arabia, the US, UAE, and all the rest? 1.00

00:40:40.000 Well, the other thing that the Iranians are doing is they're relying on their useful idiots in the United States. 1.00

00:40:44.000 Mohammed Khalibaf has decided that tweeting like Theo Vaughn on Joe Rogan is probably the best strategy here. 1.00

00:40:51.000 So they tweeted out, Your reckless moves are dragging the United States into a living hell for every single family, and our whole region is going to burn because you insist on following Netanyahu's commands.

00:41:00.000 Make no mistake, you won't gain anything through war crimes. 0.51

00:41:03.000 Okay, so I'm just going to point out that if you are in the United States right now, which I assume you are if you're listening to the sound of my voice, because the vast majority of our listeners, like nearly all of them, are American.

00:41:14.000 Question Do you consider yourself to be living in a living hell right now?

00:41:19.000 So, this is a war between one country where everybody is suffering somewhat higher gas prices temporarily, and another country that has no functioning government, a terror state that shoots people in the streets, and all of that leadership class has been killed.

00:41:34.000 So, I don't know. 1.00

00:41:37.000 I'm not going to take that with a lot of seriousness, but you can always count on the useful idiots. 1.00

00:41:42.000 People who truly hate America at this point. 1.00

00:41:43.000 I mean, I don't know how else to characterize this.

00:41:46.000 I don't know how you characterize a belief that America should be less powerful in the world, that America should lose, that it would be better if America lost, as anything but hating America.

00:41:55.000 I can't think of a single military conflict, including military conflicts with which I disagreed.

00:42:00.000 I, for example, did not think the United States should be involved in Libya, in which I was hoping that America would lose. 0.59

00:42:07.000 I might have thought that the involvement was not correct, but the idea that it would be better for America to lose is anti American, period, definitionally.

00:42:19.000 Ryan Grimm, who's become a favorite on the horseshoe right and the grievance party right, suddenly quoted by all of these people who have decided that isolationism is the way, he put out an actual tweet saying this.

00:42:31.000 So Sean McGuire, who's an investor, put out a tweet saying, How did we get to the point where so many Americans are rooting against America?

00:42:38.000 And Ryan Grimm, over at Drop Site News, which is a left wing misinformation propaganda site, put out the statement, If this is an honest question, I'd say Americans are rooting against America because we facilitated a genocide.

00:42:52.000 Presumably, this would be Israel's action against Hamas, which was not, in fact, even remotely close to a genocide, and followed it with a surprise attack on a girls' elementary school, followed by attacks on universities, medical centers, more schools, a world famous pharmaceutical research center, a volleyball team, an unfinished bridge we claimed was transporting weapons, and then a nuclear power plant.

00:43:11.000 We are now promising endless attacks on civilian infrastructure.

00:43:13.000 Okay, so again, every single thing he is saying there is a lie.

00:43:16.000 And the reason I say it's a lie is because we have hit those sites, because they are dual use sites, except for the ones that we hit by accident.

00:43:24.000 If you truly believe that the American military is so evil that we target girls' schools for the fun of it, that there's no military usefulness, no mistakes made, that we just decided to get up one morning and murder a bunch of schoolgirls, get the hell out of the country.

00:43:37.000 Seriously, you hate the country and you hate the military.

00:43:40.000 There's no other way to explain what you are saying.

00:43:44.000 There's no other way to explain it. 0.99

00:43:45.000 You think Pete Hegseth and President Trump are sitting around drawing up a target list and they say, you know what, just for good measure, let's kill a bunch of Iranian schoolgirls. 1.00

00:43:51.000 Is that what you think? 0.99

00:43:53.000 If you think that, you despise America.

00:43:56.000 Again, you can oppose the war.

00:43:57.000 You can oppose the way that the war is being fought.

00:43:59.000 You can have problems with the general overall strategy.

00:44:02.000 You can have honest questions about the war.

00:44:03.000 That's not what we're talking about here.

00:44:05.000 We're talking about people openly hoping that America loses because they do not like America, because they think a more powerful America in the world is a bad thing.

00:44:15.000 And Iran is counting on these people to undermine support.

00:44:18.000 Again, this is nothing new.

00:44:19.000 This happened throughout American history. 0.91

00:44:22.000 If you go back to the Vietnam War, the Viet Cong were counting on moron university students to claim that the real bad guys versus, you know, the communists who were murdering hundreds of thousands of people, that the real bad guys were actually the United States. 0.84

00:44:36.000 And that's why you had them literally chanting in solidarity with Ho Chi Minh.

00:44:40.000 Same sorts of people now, and they span a large swath of the left and a large part of the right now, or at least a significant part of the online right.

00:44:48.000 I shouldn't say a large part of the right because Again, it's not true.

00:44:51.000 But Ryan Grimm and Tucker Carlson are holding hands, walking off into their common isolationist anti American future together.

00:44:58.000 Tucker Carlson put out a tape over the weekend celebrating the end of the US led world order.

00:45:04.000 Here he was saying a bunch of untrue things, which is what he does for a living now while selling nicotine made in India. 1.00

00:45:12.000 What's happening in Iran is the end of American empire as we understand it.

00:45:19.000 And that's sad.

00:45:20.000 Boo hoo. 1.00

00:45:20.000 Empire's dying. 1.00

00:45:22.000 But it's not the end of the United States.

00:45:24.000 It's not the end of our influence on other nations, hopefully, positive influence.

00:45:29.000 It's not the end of our economy.

00:45:30.000 It's the beginning of a very rough time in our economy, of course.

00:45:34.000 But it's hardly the end of it.

00:45:37.000 What we've been doing for likely your lifetime, if you're under 80, is well, it's not working anymore.

00:45:45.000 It hasn't actually helped the United States long term.

00:45:49.000 Your grandkids at this point don't have the promise of a better life than you had.

00:45:53.000 So it's not actually a successful experiment.

00:45:56.000 And now it's ending because we've reached the limits of our demonstrated power.

00:46:01.000 We can't open the Straits of Hormuz.

00:46:03.000 The President of the United States said that last night.

00:46:05.000 Someone else do it.

00:46:07.000 So we're done.

00:46:09.000 That's okay.

00:46:10.000 It was always going to end.

00:46:12.000 Hopefully, we can get out without a nuclear exchange.

00:46:15.000 But now it is ending.

00:46:18.000 It was okay.

00:46:18.000 It's okay if that happens.

00:46:20.000 And it would probably be good if that happens because you've been lied to for generations. 0.99

00:46:23.000 Okay, I'm just going to point out he is a liar. 1.00

00:46:25.000 He's a liar on economics. 0.99

00:46:27.000 On military power, on all of it. 0.99

00:46:29.000 He's gotten all of it dead wrong. 0.97

00:46:30.000 Remember, this schmuck was telling you last year we were going to be in World War III if the United States struck a nuclear facility with one B2. 0.95

00:46:39.000 Has he been right on a single thing all along the way here? 0.97

00:46:42.000 What has he been right on?

00:46:43.000 And also, why don't you just say the thing?

00:46:45.000 By the way, he went even further than this.

00:46:47.000 He called President Trump a war criminal over the weekend.

00:46:49.000 That's another thing that he spent time doing.

00:46:51.000 Here he was doing that.

00:46:54.000 Franklin Graham, son of Billy Graham, shows up at the White House yesterday to pray over the president so he will have wisdom and restraint.

00:47:02.000 No.

00:47:04.000 To endorse the murder of civilians, which is a war crime, but more important, it's a moral crime. 0.70

00:47:15.000 You can't kill people who have committed no crime, who did nothing wrong.

00:47:19.000 You can't murder the innocent.

00:47:20.000 You can't point out here that Tucker Carlson is perfectly fine with Vladimir Putin killing people who have committed no crime.

00:47:25.000 He literally said so.

00:47:26.000 He said that's what leaders do.

00:47:28.000 Tucker Carlson has been super pro Russia throughout the entire Russia Ukraine conflict, as Russia targets civilians.

00:47:36.000 He has been extraordinarily pro Iran throughout this entire conflict, after Iran murdered some tens of thousands of people in the streets and has facilitated the murder of civilians all over the Middle East. 0.93

00:47:47.000 As to his argument, his generalized argument, which is that somehow the last post World War II almost century of history, past 80 years of history, has been a giant fail for America. 0.70

00:47:58.000 Do you know how ignorant of American history you have to be to actually argue that?

00:48:03.000 That destroying the Soviet Union, that building the single most powerful economy in the history of planet Earth is somehow a giant L? 0.99

00:48:11.000 That is a lie.

00:48:12.000 That's a lie.

00:48:13.000 And the statistics prove it's a lie.

00:48:16.000 New story from the Wall Street Journal America's middle class is becoming wealthier as more families scale the economic ladder into higher earning groups.

00:48:24.000 New research shows the ranks of the affluent have grown markedly over the last 50 years or so.

00:48:28.000 This would be the period that Tucker says is terrible.

00:48:31.000 While the lower rungs of the middle class have shrunk.

00:48:34.000 In 2024, about 31% of Americans were part of the upper middle class, up from about 10% in 1979.

00:48:42.000 So the ranks of the upper middle class jumped 300% since 1979.

00:48:48.000 But this is a giant fail, according to Tucker Carlson.

00:48:50.000 The only solution is to give up power to China and Russia, which again is a thing he has said in the last two weeks.

00:48:58.000 The American Enterprise Institute report classified a family of three earning $133,000 to $400,000 in 2024 dollars as upper middle class.

00:49:06.000 Households earning more were categorized as rich.

00:49:10.000 In 2024, about 19% of American families were considered poor or near poor.

00:49:15.000 And that's not great, but you know what that stat was in 1979?

00:49:20.000 30%.

00:49:21.000 By the way, it's not just AEI.

00:49:23.000 A Pew Research analysis used a different methodology, and they found that in 2023, 19% of Americans fell into an upper income group that's up from 11% in 1971.

00:49:33.000 So, again, the idea here is what?

00:49:37.000 That America has been a giant fail this entire time?

00:49:40.000 And that it's good for the American empire to end?

00:49:43.000 It's a wonderful thing?

00:49:45.000 He literally had on a Chinese propagandist professor who believes that the Rothschilds and the Masons are controlling the world and called the guy a prophet again.

00:49:58.000 Meanwhile, former Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, who doesn't have two neurons to rub together, She put out a statement to, on Easter morning, this is what President Trump posted.

00:50:06.000 Everyone in his administration that claims to be a Christian needs to fall on their knees and beg forgiveness from God and stop worshiping the president and intervene in Trump's madness.

00:50:15.000 Again, listening to Marjorie Taylor Greene lecture everyone else on morality is a hell of a thing, knowing her personal history. 0.50

00:50:23.000 I know all of you and him, and he has gone insane, and all of you are complicit.

00:50:27.000 I'm not defending Iran, but, but, as always, whenever you have a sentence, And there is a but in the middle of the sentence.

00:50:36.000 Whatever came before that but does not matter.

00:50:39.000 I'm not defending Iran, but let's be honest about all of this.

00:50:43.000 The strait is closed because the U.S. and Israel started the unprovoked war against Iran based on the same nuclear lies they've been telling for decades.

00:50:49.000 That any moment, Iran would develop a nuclear weapon. 0.79

00:50:52.000 So, okay, so the idea is here that Steve Witkopf and Jared Kushner and the IAEA, they're all lying.

00:50:58.000 They're all lying.

00:51:00.000 You know who has nuclear weapons?

00:51:01.000 Israel, says MTG.

00:51:03.000 Israel does have nuclear weapons.

00:51:03.000 Yes.

00:51:05.000 Does anyone in America feel threatened by Israeli nuclear weapons?

00:51:09.000 Do any of our allies feel threatened by Israeli nuclear weapons?

00:51:13.000 If so, I would love to hear how.

00:51:17.000 But these are the people that Iran is counting on to help out.

00:51:20.000 Candace Owens put out her usual melange of insanity. 1.00

00:51:23.000 She put out a tweet This is a satanic administration. 0.98

00:51:26.000 We all realize that satanic Zionists occupy the White House, and Congress needs to move to have the mad King Trump removed. 0.99

00:51:32.000 All of our lives may depend upon other countries realizing Trump is deeply unwell and surrounded by religious fanatics. 0.93

00:51:38.000 Who have convinced him that he is a messiah?

00:51:41.000 What in the world is she even talking about?

00:51:43.000 What in the world is she talking about?

00:51:45.000 Yeah, probably she'll provide us evidence of this the same time that she provides evidence that Egyptian planes were linked to the murder of Charlie Kirk.

00:51:52.000 We're in uncharted territory, she tweets.

00:51:55.000 Uh huh.

00:51:57.000 And then leave it to the grievance party right and left and the anti Trump forces to just endorse Candace Owens' tweet. 1.00

00:52:05.000 People like Tim Miller of The Bulwark quote, the satanic Zionist clause undermines an otherwise compelling critique of Trump 2.0. 0.51

00:52:12.000 I love when you have people like Tim Miller who, man, selling your soul for a salary at the bulwark is a hell of a thing to do.

00:52:12.000 I love it.

00:52:21.000 So leave aside the satanic Zionist clause and the rest of her insane craziness is totally right. 1.00

00:52:28.000 Pod Save America's John Favreau endorsed the Candace tweet as well with a retweet.

00:52:32.000 Just wonderful, wonderful people.

00:52:33.000 Okay, so here's the thing the president is not listening to them, and he shouldn't listen to them.

00:52:38.000 Because why would you listen to people who believe that it is a good thing for America to be weaker in the world?

00:52:43.000 Why would you listen to people who believe that the president of the United States is deliberately targeting civilian schoolgirls?

00:52:49.000 The answer is you wouldn't.

00:52:51.000 The answer is you wouldn't.

00:52:52.000 Because those people, they don't like America very much.

00:52:54.000 They don't.

00:52:55.000 What they will say is, no, I like a different form of America, an America in my head.

00:52:58.000 Well, that America doesn't exist.

00:53:00.000 The America that exists is the America that you live in right now.

00:53:03.000 The one where President Trump is the president.

00:53:05.000 The one that ensures the freedom of the seas and the free flow of commerce.

00:53:10.000 The America that fights off terror nations.

00:53:13.000 The America that protects our allies.

00:53:16.000 The America that does not wish to see the world's worst people with the world's worst weapons.

00:53:20.000 That's the America you live in right now.

00:53:23.000 Do you like that America or do you hate that America? 0.97

00:53:24.000 And don't give me this bullcrap about how you like a form of America that you've built in your own head. 0.94

00:53:29.000 See, here's the thing.

00:53:31.000 When Joe Biden was president, I still loved America because America is awesome.

00:53:35.000 I didn't like Joe Biden as president very much, but I still loved America.

00:53:38.000 I wasn't rooting against America.

00:53:40.000 And again, there's a difference, I'll say it again, between having questions about the war, which is perfectly legit in any war.

00:53:46.000 Any government policy can be questioned.

00:53:48.000 There's a difference between that and the kind of anti American nonsense that is now being pressed forward on some of the most well listened to podcasts and shows in America.

00:53:59.000 There is a vast difference.

00:54:02.000 If you are going, On Joe Rogan's show, as Theo Vaughn did over the course of last week, and just spewing utterly ignorant nonsense that implicates the United States in war crimes and claims the United States is somehow the bad guy in the war with Iran, let me suggest that you have your morality checked or your knowledge checked or something of the sort.

00:54:24.000 You know, I'm not the one claiming that Theo Vaughn has anything valuable to say on this, but apparently other people are.

00:54:30.000 I think Theo Vaughn's super funny, and that's about it.

00:54:33.000 But, If Iran is counting on those people to somehow get them out of the situation they've created for themselves, good luck to them. 0.97

00:54:39.000 Meanwhile, in the United States, Secretary Rubio has announced that he is revoking the green cards of foreign nationals with ties to the Iranian terror regime.

00:54:51.000 According to the statement from the State Department, last night the niece and great niece of deceased IRGC Major General Qasem Soleimani were arrested by federal agents following Secretary of State Marco Rubio's termination of their lawful permanent resident status.

00:55:04.000 Hamida Soleimani Afshar and her daughter are now in custody of ICE.

00:55:09.000 And it turns out that these people promoted Iran regime propaganda, celebrated attacks against American soldiers and military facilities in the Middle East, praised the new Iranian supreme leader, denounced America as the great Satan, and voiced unflinching support for the IRGC.

00:55:23.000 Meanwhile, they enjoyed a lavish lifestyle.

00:55:26.000 As shown on Instagram accounts.

00:55:29.000 Here are some pictures of Hamide Soleimani Afshar.

00:55:35.000 Here she was living the life in Los Angeles, walking out of an Air Maze store.

00:55:41.000 Here was Hamide Soleimani in her outfit that is totally not allowed in Iran.

00:55:47.000 If she walked down the street in Iran, she would have acid thrown on her face for wearing this, enjoying all the perks of Western life. 1.00

00:55:55.000 It is fairly incredible, by the way, how many relatives of terrorists. 1.00

00:55:59.000 Legitimately, just enjoy the West and come here and take advantage of it because we're morons. 0.99

00:56:07.000 Here was a picture of a Saray Nasadat Hosseini scantily clad as well. 0.93

00:56:13.000 Again, I'm just going to say that I don't think this outfit is Tehran appropriate.

00:56:18.000 So, while her relatives, while her uncle was murdering people who dressed like this in Iran, who dared to dress like this in Iran, murdering them, she was out in LA enjoying her life in the West. 0.68

00:56:30.000 Well, we should kick all these folks out of the country. 1.00

00:56:33.000 They do not belong here. 0.98

00:56:34.000 The fact that so many terrorist children and terrorist relatives and future terrorists are trained in the United States is a blot on our immigration system.

00:56:42.000 As the president said, if you import the third world, you become the third world.

00:56:46.000 And that's not going to happen to the United States of America as long as I'm president.

00:56:50.000 By the way, there are six Iranian leaders' children who are currently in U.S. universities.

00:56:55.000 The daughter of Ali Larijani, who was the de facto Iranian leader until he was killed.

00:57:01.000 Is a medical doctor who taught at Emory.

00:57:03.000 In New York, Leila Khatami, the daughter of the former Iranian President Mohammed Khatami, teaches math at Union College.

00:57:09.000 Zahra Mohegdeh Damad is a niece of Ali Larajani and works as a professor in the Department of Nuclear Plasma and Radiological Engineering at the University of Illinois Urbana Champaign.

00:57:20.000 And Isa Hashemi is an associate professor at the Chicago School of Professional Psychology in LA.

00:57:25.000 His mom is a former member of parliament in Iran who worked as a spokesperson for the terrorists who held 52 diplomats hostage at the U.S. Embassy.

00:57:33.000 In Tehran during the 79 revolution.

00:57:35.000 Yeah, we don't need any of these folks in the United States, and we should never have admitted any of them unless they were willing to openly denounce all of the belief systems of their parents and relatives.

00:57:44.000 We don't need them here.

00:57:45.000 And good for the State Department for kicking them out.

00:57:48.000 Now, meanwhile, everybody is very dyspeptic about the economy.

00:57:52.000 I'm just going to point out that the U.S. economy did, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, add 178,000 jobs in March.

00:57:58.000 That is well above expectations.

00:58:01.000 The predicted gain of 60,000 was beat.

00:58:05.000 By almost 120,000 jobs.

00:58:07.000 Unemployment declined from 4.4% to 4.3%.

00:58:09.000 So, if this is the economic hell being unleashed on the American people, I got to say, I feel like we can survive it.

00:58:17.000 Again, that is not to make light of people's personal financial situations.

00:58:20.000 People are paying more for gas, people have student loans, all of that's true.

00:58:24.000 But by any sort of real metric, the idea that the United States is currently in some sort of economic hellhole is not true.

00:58:34.000 So, again, the stock market is going down during the war.

00:58:38.000 It will go up again when the war is over.

00:58:39.000 The gas prices are going up.

00:58:40.000 They'll go down again when the war is over.

00:58:42.000 The economy continues to chug along, and it's worth noting that.

00:58:45.000 Okay, while I was out as well, worth talking a moment about the ouster of Pam Bondi.

00:58:50.000 I've been calling for Pam Bondi not to be the attorney general for quite a while.

00:58:53.000 I think her complete botchery of the rollout of the Epstein files alone was enough to get her booted as the AG. 1.00

00:59:01.000 The sort of performative nonsense that she was constantly engaged in undermined the president's agenda. 0.90

00:59:06.000 I'm glad to see that she is out.

00:59:09.000 President Trump put out a statement that's very kind to her.

00:59:11.000 He said, We love Pam.

00:59:12.000 She'll be transitioning to a much needed and important new job in the private sector to be announced at a date in the near future. 0.99

00:59:18.000 Deputy AG Todd Blanch will step in.

00:59:20.000 That is right.

00:59:21.000 Hilariously, Democrats are now pretending to be mad at this.

00:59:24.000 Jennifer Siebel Newsom, who is the wife of Governor Gavin Newsom of California, is blaming the patriarchy for Christy Noam and Pam Bondi leaving.

00:59:31.000 Not the fact that they were incompetent, the patriarchy.

00:59:35.000 I'm not a fan of Pam Bondi nor Christy Noam, but I need to call out. that it's no surprise to me that the first two prominent people pushed out of this administration were women. 0.99

00:59:45.000 Let me explain.

00:59:46.000 The conservative women that Trump handpicks, who align themselves with an agenda that controls women, restricting our rights, limiting our autonomy, and pushing us back into this straitjacket of femininity that is only in service of men, there's a familiar pattern here. 1.00

01:00:01.000 Women are brought in, packaged Mar-a-Lago style, and lifted up as long as they commit to wholeheartedly serve the interests of the patriarch at the top. 0.98

01:00:11.000 I mean, just ridiculous, but not a shock. 0.58

01:00:14.000 She's coming to the defense of Pam Bondi and Christy Gnome. 0.91

01:00:18.000 Really?

01:00:19.000 Well, it is coming from the same lady who says that she gives her boys dolls so as to sensitize them.

01:00:25.000 Come on.

01:00:26.000 Seriously?

01:00:27.000 We're still doing this.

01:00:29.000 Really?

01:00:31.000 I've given our boys dolls, even if they tear the head off.

01:00:37.000 I've given them dolls to learn that care and caregiving is not just an activity that's reserved for women. 1.00

01:00:44.000 But that it's also an activity that is a responsibility of men.

01:00:51.000 I mean, also, by the way, that's not how you teach a boy to be a responsible parent.

01:00:55.000 You don't give him a doll. 1.00

01:00:56.000 That's stupid. 1.00

01:00:57.000 That's incredibly stupid. 1.00

01:00:59.000 I'm just telling you, it's dumb. 1.00

01:01:00.000 Okay, as the father of two boys, that's an incredibly stupid way to approach teaching your kids to be a good, responsible parent. 1.00

01:01:09.000 Be a good, responsible parent in front of them. 1.00

01:01:10.000 That's how you teach a kid to be a good, responsible parent.

01:01:12.000 I don't care how many dolls you give a boy, the boy will turn the doll into a gun or rip the head off.

01:01:17.000 And that has nothing to do with whether the boy will eventually be a good and responsible parent.

01:01:23.000 Be a good dad, and your boys will be good dads.

01:01:26.000 Be a good mom, and there's a pretty good shot your kids will be good moms.

01:01:29.000 That's it.

01:01:30.000 That's the whole thing.

01:01:31.000 But again, Democrats totally disconnected from reality.

01:01:35.000 Dallas Sonier, he is the founder of Bonfire Legend, and he's made a bunch of great movies.

01:01:39.000 As we all know, Bone Tomahawk and Brawling Soul Block 99, Dragged Across Concrete, and then, of course, Run, Hide, Fight.

01:01:45.000 Well, today, Dallas is here to discuss controversy over our latest Daily Wire film that we are making with.

01:01:51.000 Dallas.

01:01:52.000 Apparently, massive controversy has now broken out over the horrifying issue of Jonathan Majors being in an action movie and then he fell down, and now the unions are mad and we don't really care very much.

01:02:06.000 Dallas, thanks so much for joining the show.

01:02:08.000 I appreciate it.

01:02:12.000 Okay, so why don't you run us through the story?

01:02:14.000 Because the media are treating it as though Jonathan Majors, as well as one of the other actors in the film, basically were blown up on set, have been eviscerated, are no longer alive.

01:02:23.000 And then the unions are treating it as though this is some sort of union violation that led to all of this.

01:02:27.000 Why don't you spell out what happened here?

01:02:29.000 So you know we make big, bad movies, and they've got explosions and helicopters and all kinds of fun stuff, tons of guns.

01:02:29.000 Sure.

01:02:39.000 We use live blanks on set.

01:02:43.000 We make movies old school style.

01:02:45.000 And every now and then, something will go wrong, and people, you know, are injured or they're mildly hurt or things like that.

01:02:55.000 We have licensed armors on set, we have set medics, we have all of the precautions in place.

01:03:02.000 And in this case, we were making a great movie, and two of the actors fell through a window that was set up for a stunt on the next take.

01:03:09.000 They were, you know, rehearsed many times, all the necessary precautions.

01:03:15.000 Anyway, Everything was fine.

01:03:17.000 The actors continued to work throughout the day.

01:03:19.000 They went to the hospital at the end of the day, got a couple of stitches.

01:03:23.000 And you know what?

01:03:24.000 We made an awesome movie.

01:03:26.000 The funny thing is, the unions decided that we were horrible, horrible people.

01:03:30.000 And they tried to start picketing us and protesting, but they could only round up on a given day about seven people.

01:03:39.000 And so they just looked like the Titanic version of the recorder soundtrack, you know?

01:03:45.000 And they really embarrassed themselves.

01:03:48.000 We finished the movie strong.

01:03:50.000 And you'll see it here in a few months on Daily Wire Plus.

01:03:54.000 So, Dallas, obviously the unions had been making trouble before all of this.

01:03:59.000 The unions had been making trouble before any of this happened on set.

01:04:03.000 Essentially, we've done union movies.

01:04:05.000 We've also done non union movies with you.

01:04:07.000 You've done both.

01:04:09.000 This was non union, but it is not as though every member of the cast and crew is not union affiliated, of course.

01:04:15.000 And so it turns out that there was sort of an attempt to unionize that failed.

01:04:20.000 And now they were using this basically as a bootstrap operation to try to generate.

01:04:23.000 Outrage?

01:04:24.000 Is that basically the story here?

01:04:25.000 That's right.

01:04:26.000 So I've been with my crew for 15, 20 movies now.

01:04:30.000 They're super fans of Daily Wire.

01:04:33.000 They love us.

01:04:34.000 They love working together.

01:04:35.000 They're a real family.

01:04:36.000 Every now and then, when we make a movie, of course, we have to bring in a few people that are new.

01:04:41.000 Those people who aren't so familiar with our way of working and our way of doing business, they decided they wanted to go union and try to flip the crew.

01:04:50.000 And my crew rejected them.

01:04:51.000 And it pissed them off so much that all the union reps started descending upon set. to try and turn the crew.

01:05:00.000 And then they ultimately reverted to shaming and threatening letters and things like that and demands and whatever.

01:05:06.000 None of the safety concerns ever came up.

01:05:08.000 This was all about money and power.

01:05:10.000 And as I said in the article, we don't negotiate with communists.

01:05:16.000 So, Dallas, I'm not going to ask you to give away anything about the film because we don't want to give away anything about the film at this point. 0.99

01:05:22.000 The film does kick absolute ass. 0.90

01:05:24.000 It's going to be fantastic. 0.99

01:05:25.000 It's going to blow people's minds.

01:05:27.000 And again, it seems to me that this is just the latest attempt, particularly by a lot of folks in the entertainment media, to fight us.

01:05:35.000 And they've been doing this basically since you announced that Jonathan Majors was going to be in a film with us.

01:05:40.000 They weren't upset that Jonathan Majors is making a comeback, they're upset that Jonathan Majors is making a comeback with us, right?

01:05:46.000 Hollywood.

01:05:47.000 Would like to control everything sort of top down in centralized fashion.

01:05:51.000 They're upset that we're operating outside of their system and successfully doing so and getting stars like Jonathan Majors to be in movies with us.

01:05:57.000 And so this seems like more of the same because as soon as we announced Jonathan Majors would work with us, all of the articles were about how terrible it was for Jonathan Majors to work with us, not for us to work with Jonathan Majors.

01:06:08.000 And now it's more of the same.

01:06:09.000 It's, you know, we must be some sort of rogue operation that can't keep our own people safe.

01:06:14.000 Yeah.

01:06:14.000 I mean, first of all, Jonathan Majors is a total star.

01:06:17.000 Absolute movie star.

01:06:19.000 He was going to win an Oscar for Magazine Dreams before Hollywood turned on him and canceled him.

01:06:24.000 We, of course, we're so proud to uncancel him and get him back in the saddle and on a movie set where he belongs.

01:06:31.000 And he delivered in spades.

01:06:33.000 He's just a true, true actor and movie star.

01:06:37.000 And yes, the How Dare You crew descended upon us.

01:06:42.000 Hollywood is in literal free fall right now, and yet we're making movies, we're thriving, we're doing great.

01:06:49.000 And they are so mad about that that they're just apoplectic and they're like the girl in The Exorcist with their head spinning around.

01:06:56.000 And so they're so jealous they're not invited to the party.

01:06:59.000 So they came and tried to picket us and they came and tried to shut us down.

01:07:02.000 And we just gave them a double barrel middle finger and kept making the movie.

01:07:06.000 And you know what?

01:07:08.000 The movie's incredible.

01:07:09.000 We just wrapped over the weekend.

01:07:11.000 I'm going to give, you know, I'm going to post a crew photo here.

01:07:14.000 It's a hundred of us totally in solidarity and the unions can go shove it.

01:07:21.000 Well, that's Dallas Onyar.

01:07:22.000 He is the.

01:07:23.000 Independent film producer and founder of Bonfire Legend.

01:07:26.000 We work with him to make our Daily Wire movies over here.

01:07:28.000 And I got to tell you, this upcoming year is going to blow your mind the kind of stuff that we're going to put out here at Daily Wire.

01:07:34.000 Like truly insane.

01:07:35.000 Crazy, crazy stuff.

01:07:37.000 You should get excited now because it's going to be that good.

01:07:39.000 Dallas, thanks so much for the time.

01:07:41.000 Congrats on wrapping the film.

01:07:43.000 Thank you for having me.

01:07:45.000 All righty, folks, the show continues for our members right now for real this time.

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