The Ben Shapiro Show - Iran, You Ran, We All Ran | Ep. 784

00:00:00.000 Iran's provocations escalate, Democrats compete for attention, and yes, I will indeed review Game of Thrones.

00:00:05.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:01:28.000 Okay, so over the weekend, the Iranians continued to escalate the situation in the Middle East. 0.78

00:01:36.000 They obviously would like a conflict.

00:01:38.000 So President Trump does not want a conflict.

00:01:40.000 The Trump administration does not want a conflict.

00:01:42.000 Despite all of the talk from the left about John Bolton itching for conflict with the Iranians.

00:01:46.000 We are now in year three of the Trump administration.

00:01:49.000 He does not want a conflict with Iran.

00:01:51.000 He would like to see the regime fall.

00:01:52.000 He would like to see it fall from the inside, and that involves containment, and yes, the credible threat of military force to prevent Iran from getting too aggressive. 0.95

00:02:00.000 But it's pretty obvious that Trump doesn't want war.

00:02:02.000 Trump is, by nature, more of an isolationist on foreign policy.

00:02:05.000 He does not like being involved in different areas of the world.

00:02:09.000 Nonetheless, President Trump threatened Iran with destruction as tensions flared after a rocket almost hit the U.S.

00:02:13.000 embassy in Baghdad, according to The Sun in the UK.

00:02:17.000 Apparently, a rocket landed less than a mile from the U.S.

00:02:20.000 Embassy in Baghdad's Green Zone, further stoking hostility in the region.

00:02:23.000 Tensions between the United States and Iran have escalated in recent weeks after American warships and bombers were ordered to the Middle East to counter an unexplained threat.

00:02:31.000 The U.S.

00:02:31.000 Embassy in Baghdad and its consulate in the northern city of Erbil evacuated non-essential staff this week following the escalating tensions with Iran.

00:02:39.000 Trump has also tightened economic sanctions.

00:02:41.000 Originally, a brigadier general in the British Army said that he did not see the reason why the United States was getting uptight with Iran, and then it turns out that the Secretary of State, over the Foreign Secretary rather, in Britain, came forward and said, no, the info's pretty good, Iran is getting a lot more militant. 0.67

00:02:57.000 So President Trump tweeted out in his own inimitable fashion, quote, If Iran wants to fight, that would be the official end of Iran.

00:03:04.000 Never threaten the United States again!

00:03:06.000 Exclamation point.

00:03:08.000 I appreciate the sentiment.

00:03:10.000 I really do.

00:03:11.000 I also will note that President Trump used exactly the same sort of language with regard to North Korea before he then had as much ballyhooed summit with Kim Jong-un, which resulted in approximately nothing.

00:03:20.000 It resulted in the North Koreans continuing to develop their technology.

00:03:24.000 It resulted in the North Koreans being elevated on the world stage.

00:03:27.000 So taking President Trump's Twitter account at face value is always a mistake.

00:03:32.000 President Trump fulminates on his Twitter account.

00:03:33.000 He says bloviating things on his Twitter account.

00:03:37.000 I think it would be good if the Iranian regime understands that if they cross the line, we will end them. 1.00

00:03:41.000 And the truth is, we would end them.

00:03:42.000 They could do us damage because they have terror cells all around the world.

00:03:45.000 They could do us damage because there are American allies within striking distance of Iranian missiles. 0.67

00:03:50.000 But if they were to go to full-scale war with the United States, that war lasts not particularly long, because the fact is the U.S.

00:03:56.000 military is the greatest fighting force ever assembled in the history of mankind, and Iran is a second-rate military force despite the large size of the Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps.

00:04:05.000 Nonetheless, it is obvious that President Trump does not want war with Iran General David Petraeus, who's not exactly a friend of the administration.

00:04:12.000 He came out on ABC this week.

00:04:13.000 He said, no, Trump is not interested in war.

00:04:16.000 And this is obviously true.

00:04:17.000 Frankly, it's pretty clear that he doesn't want to go to war with Iran.

00:04:22.000 He's not after regime change.

00:04:24.000 He's after what Secretary Pompeo has announced as the objective, which is regime behavior change.

00:04:30.000 Iran is a country that has a population that is three times the size of Iraq when we invaded it.

00:04:37.000 And a land mass that is three to four times the size of Iraq as well.

00:04:43.000 And I think any thoughts about invading Iran, again, rightly the president has shelved those, I think.

00:04:50.000 Okay, so Petraeus is, of course, correct about this.

00:04:52.000 Now, the way the media are treating this is that Trump is right on the verge of launching war on Iran.

00:04:56.000 It's gonna be a wag the dog scenario.

00:04:58.000 Yeah, except Trump hasn't built any support for that.

00:05:00.000 Look at the poll numbers.

00:05:01.000 This would not be a popular move.

00:05:03.000 There's nobody on the right who's in favor of a war with Iran at this point.

00:05:07.000 Legitimately, no one.

00:05:09.000 John Bolton is not in favor of war with Iran.

00:05:12.000 I don't know a single person in conservative circles who's interested in war with Iran at this point, including the most quote-unquote neocon forces inside the conservative movement.

00:05:21.000 So I don't know where this narrative is coming from that Trump is desperate for a war with Iran.

00:05:25.000 In reality, Iran is desperate for some sort of military conflict short of of complete war with the United States, because they're trying to shore up their flailing economy.

00:05:33.000 They're trying to create a rally around the flag effect in Iran.

00:05:37.000 There have been running protests for months there, thanks to economic shortages.

00:05:40.000 That's been largely ignored by the world media, mainly because the media do not have great access to what is going on in Iran.

00:05:45.000 But the media in the West are creating this narrative that Trump is desperate for war, that Trump is trying to do a George W. Bush circa 2003 with regard to Iraq.

00:05:54.000 Again, there is no evidence of that whatsoever.

00:05:56.000 Meanwhile, over the weekend, a lot of controversy broke out because Justin Amash, who is a congressperson from Michigan, Republican congressperson, very libertarian.

00:06:04.000 He's been a guest on our radio show.

00:06:06.000 Justin Amash tweeted this out over the weekend, quote, Now, again, I don't think there's any evidence for that at all.

00:06:19.000 I'm going to analyze these one by one.

00:06:20.000 I don't think there's any evidence for this at all, that Barr has deliberately misrepresented Mueller's report.

00:06:26.000 We can all see the report.

00:06:27.000 Barr gave the bottom line conclusions in the Mueller report.

00:06:30.000 Mueller's people themselves acknowledged that those conclusions were accurate.

00:06:33.000 They just didn't like the characterization.

00:06:35.000 They thought that Barr should have originally laid out all of the evidence in his original letter when Barr basically just said, look, my job as attorney general is not to make a case against somebody we are not prosecuting.

00:06:45.000 My job as the attorney general is to say whether or not the person is being prosecuted.

00:06:49.000 Justin Amash also claimed that President Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct.

00:06:53.000 He then does not name what exactly the impeachable conduct is.

00:06:55.000 Now, here's the truth about impeachment.

00:06:57.000 Impeachment is, of course, a political standard.

00:06:59.000 It is not, in fact, a legal standard.

00:07:01.000 So you can impeach anybody for virtually any reason.

00:07:03.000 High crimes and misdemeanors does not have any legal definition.

00:07:08.000 In other words, if Congress were to impeach the president, he can't then appeal to the Supreme Court and say, well, Congress deliberately misinterpreted high crimes and misdemeanors.

00:07:15.000 The impeachment is no good.

00:07:17.000 Congress can do whatever it wants right there.

00:07:19.000 So numbers one and two, he has four points that he makes in this tweet that got all sorts of attention because he's a Republican saying that Trump is impeachable.

00:07:26.000 So point number one that he makes is that Barr deliberately misrepresented Mueller's report.

00:07:30.000 I see no evidence of this.

00:07:31.000 Point number two, Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct.

00:07:34.000 Well, it depends on your definition of impeachable conduct, I suppose, but I don't see anything that he did that is quote-unquote impeachable.

00:07:41.000 I see stuff that's bad.

00:07:42.000 I see that President Trump did stuff that is embarrassing for him.

00:07:45.000 I see that President Trump fulminates in a way that is unbecoming of the office.

00:07:49.000 But is that impeachable?

00:07:50.000 He didn't commit obstruction of justice, according to Mueller himself.

00:07:53.000 He didn't actually engage in any collusion with the Russians.

00:07:56.000 So what exactly is impeachable as opposed to just embarrassing bad conduct?

00:08:00.000 Well, that part is obviously true.

00:08:06.000 But that's been true for a very long time.

00:08:08.000 I mean, Eric Holder was acting, in his own words, as President Obama's wingman.

00:08:12.000 So that is nothing new.

00:08:14.000 Partisanship has, of course, eroded our system of checks and balances.

00:08:17.000 Congress no longer holds the president to account if he's a member of their own party.

00:08:20.000 And if the president is not a member of their own party, then people are interested in endless investigations, even if those investigations result in nothing.

00:08:29.000 And finally, Amash says few members of Congress have read the report.

00:08:31.000 That obviously is true as well.

00:08:34.000 The media ran with this because Amash is, of course, a libertarian-leaning Republican in Michigan.

00:08:38.000 He's in a very tightly contested race in Michigan.

00:08:41.000 He's the most likely Republican to be ousted into primary at this point.

00:08:45.000 As a general rule, I really like Justin Amash.

00:08:47.000 Representative Amash, his perspective on the role of government, I think, is quite correct.

00:08:52.000 He and I have similar views on the role of government and the libertarian nature of government.

00:08:56.000 With that said, Amash, I think, is off base here.

00:08:58.000 He then completes his tweets by suggesting, contrary to Barr's portrayal, Mueller's report reveals that President Trump engaged in specific actions and a pattern of behavior that meet the threshold for impeachment.

00:09:08.000 But that's not what Barr ruled, right?

00:09:09.000 Barr didn't say anything about impeachment.

00:09:10.000 Barr just said that there is nothing that is criminally prosecutable.

00:09:14.000 Barr's letter and his statements go to that.

00:09:16.000 The AG's job is not to determine whether something is impeachable or not.

00:09:20.000 That's Congress's job. 0.73

00:09:21.000 Well, the press have had a field day with Amash's tweets.

00:09:25.000 Politico ran a long article about the bravery of Justin Amash for coming out and saying this.

00:09:30.000 Again, if I thought that Amash were correct, I would think that it's brave.

00:09:34.000 It's certainly brave to the extent that he's running against the prevailing winds inside his own party.

00:09:38.000 But brave is not the same thing as correct.

00:09:41.000 And in this particular case, I don't see that he is exactly correct here.

00:09:46.000 According to Politico, in recent days, more rank-and-file Democrats have said they support initiating impeachment proceedings against the president.

00:09:52.000 Speaker Nancy Pelosi and most Democratic leaders and committee chairs have resisted those calls, citing their ongoing investigations into the president's alleged conduct.

00:10:00.000 The House Judiciary Committee, for example, is investigating Trump for allegations of obstruction of justice and abuses of power.

00:10:07.000 Now, that is the most telling thing.

00:10:10.000 The Democrats are really not all that interested in impeaching President Trump because they don't believe they have solid enough grounds with the American public to push for impeachment.

00:10:17.000 They are afraid of the backlash should that happen.

00:10:19.000 So when Amash says that Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct, the Democrats don't think so.

00:10:25.000 The Democrats don't think so.

00:10:26.000 And because the Democrats don't think so, it's interesting that Amash is arguing that extreme partisanship is undercutting the case for impeachment.

00:10:34.000 I think that if extreme partisanship were to cut in favor of anything, it would cut in favor of impeachment.

00:10:39.000 In a statement on Saturday, Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel slammed Amash for, quote, parroting the Democrats' talking points on Russia.

00:10:47.000 McDaniel didn't explicitly endorse a GOP primary challenge to Amash in 2020, but noted that voters in Amash's district strongly support this president.

00:10:56.000 Now, Amash does have a rival who is running in the primary and is campaigning in front of giant Trump flags.

00:11:04.000 So it's pretty obvious this person knows where his bread is buttered with regard to the Republican base.

00:11:10.000 President Trump himself fired back on Amash.

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00:12:20.000 So, President Trump lashed back at Amash via Twitter.

00:12:23.000 He said, never a fan of Justin Amash, a total lightweight, who opposes me and some of our great Republican ideas and policies just for the sake of getting his name out there through controversy.

00:12:33.000 If he actually read the biased Mueller report, composed by 18 angry Dems who hated Trump, he would see it was nevertheless strong on no collusion and, ultimately, no obstruction.

00:12:45.000 Anyway, how do you obstruct when there's no crime, and in fact the crimes are committed by the other side? 0.97

00:12:50.000 Justin is a loser who sadly plays right into our opponent's hands. 0.97

00:12:55.000 So obviously President Trump is taking it personally. 0.98

00:12:57.000 When President Trump uses a couple of key terms, you know he's taking it personally. 0.99

00:13:00.000 Lightweight and loser. 0.94

00:13:02.000 When he calls someone a lightweight. 0.96

00:13:03.000 That means the president is taking it personally.

00:13:06.000 And by the way, I don't blame the president for taking it personally.

00:13:09.000 Do I think it's good strategy to attack Amash here? 1.00

00:13:12.000 No, I should just say, Justin Amash is entitled to his opinion.

00:13:15.000 Obviously, I think he is misreading the report.

00:13:17.000 And then if you want to encourage a primary challenge, you quietly do that.

00:13:20.000 Nonetheless, the fact that Trump is angry about this.

00:13:24.000 President Trump is feeling the pressure.

00:13:25.000 There's just no question that President Trump is feeling the pressure.

00:13:28.000 And it's not helping that there are people like Mitt Romney.

00:13:31.000 Romney is out there saying Amash is brave.

00:13:33.000 He disagrees with Amash, but Amash is brave.

00:13:35.000 A statement with which I generally agree, but there's a general perception that Romney himself is much more comfortable attacking people on the right than people on the left.

00:13:43.000 Here's Mitt Romney basically quasi-supporting Amash here.

00:13:48.000 My own view is that Justin Amash has reached a different conclusion than I have.

00:13:53.000 I respect him.

00:13:54.000 I think it's a courageous statement.

00:13:56.000 But I believe that to make a case for obstruction of justice, you just don't have the elements that are evidenced in this document.

00:14:05.000 And I also believe that An impeachment call is not only something that relates to the law, but also considers practicality and politics.

00:14:14.000 And the American people just aren't there. 0.68

00:14:16.000 And I think those that are considering impeachment have to look also at the jury, which would be the Senate.

00:14:21.000 The Senate is certainly not there either.

00:14:23.000 OK, Romney is right about all of the last part of it.

00:14:25.000 The problem is that the people who are expressing sympathy for Amash as a general rule are people who the Republican base does not trust.

00:14:31.000 And Mitt Romney is one of those people, unfortunately.

00:14:34.000 OK, in just a second, we're going to get to the real reason that President Trump is, I think, on edge.

00:14:39.000 And the real reason he is on edge is because the president is running a very tough re-elect race.

00:14:45.000 The fact is the polls are not cutting in his favor in places like Michigan and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

00:14:50.000 President Trump has solidified Ohio.

00:14:52.000 He has not solidified Florida.

00:14:53.000 If the economy goes south at all, not only does the president lose reelection, the president loses reelection pretty handily.

00:14:59.000 I mean, I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings here, But the fact is that the polls are just not good for the president at this point.

00:15:06.000 He has to bet on the Democrats destroying themselves.

00:15:09.000 And this is why most Democrats at this point, or at least a plurality of Democrats, are looking to Joe Biden.

00:15:14.000 The reason they're looking to Biden is because they think that Biden is moderate enough to win a state like Flora.

00:15:18.000 And take Pennsylvania away from Trump and take Wisconsin away from Trump and take Michigan away from Trump.

00:15:23.000 And by the way, that is what the polls show at this point in time.

00:15:25.000 Now, listen, we're a year and a half out.

00:15:27.000 A lot can happen.

00:15:28.000 Joe Biden could fall apart at the seams.

00:15:29.000 He has before in presidential races.

00:15:31.000 And the fact is that the Democratic Party is increasingly a radical party.

00:15:35.000 Representative Pramila Jayapal, she came out over the weekend and she described the Democratic Party.

00:15:40.000 And the fact is that the Democratic Party's policies are well to the left of mainstream America.

00:15:46.000 I think the party's response is going to be strong, and hopefully you've seen that it's strong across the board.

00:15:52.000 Personally, I do think that there should be a set of core democratic ideals that we all agree to, and that you can't say you're a Democrat if you're against immigrants, if you're against abortion, if you're against gay marriage and LGBTQ rights.

00:16:08.000 I'm not sure what it means to be a Democrat if all of those things are true.

00:16:12.000 Okay, so basically Jayapal, who's a congresswoman from Washington, all Democrats are pro-illegal immigration, all of them are pro-abortion, all of them are pro-gay marriage, all of them are pro-LGBT rights, which I assume would include the so-called Equality Act, which has passed the Democratic House and is an act so radical that many advocates of things like same-sex marriage are still looking at this and saying this violates core constitutional freedoms.

00:16:33.000 It basically Forces everyone in the country who is religious to knuckle under to the social left. 0.62

00:16:39.000 The Democratic program is well to the left of the general public.

00:16:42.000 So the Democrats instead are seeking to present the most palatable face.

00:16:46.000 And that really looks like Joe Biden right now, because Joe Biden is widely considered the not only most known Democrat, but also the guy that most Americans are kind of comfortable with.

00:16:56.000 It's hard to find a lot of Americans who have tremendous amounts of ire or disdain for Joe Biden. 0.99

00:17:01.000 At worst, they think that he's kind of a dunderhead. 0.70

00:17:03.000 But there are not a lot of Republicans who are motivated by Joe Biden to go out there in the same way that they were motivated by Hillary Clinton, who they saw as a really nefarious character. 0.95

00:17:12.000 Biden, thus, is making a pretty generic Democratic argument for why he ought to be president right now.

00:17:17.000 He is fibbing all the while doing it.

00:17:18.000 He is, in fact, a demagogue. 0.67

00:17:19.000 I mean, this is a guy who, again, back in 2012 suggested that black people were going to be put back in chains by Mitt Romney, of all humans.

00:17:26.000 But over the weekend, he was out there campaigning and he's doing the moderate thing.

00:17:29.000 He says, listen, we don't need to be angry.

00:17:31.000 Our politics is too angry.

00:17:33.000 I will remind you that last week at a rally, a woman got up and said to him that she believes that Donald Trump stole the election and effectively was a tool of Russia.

00:17:40.000 And Biden said, maybe you should be my running mate.

00:17:42.000 So much for no anger in politics.

00:17:43.000 Here's Joe Biden doing that routine, though.

00:17:46.000 I know some of the really smart folks say Democrats don't want to hear about unity.

00:17:50.000 They say Democrats are so angry that the angrier a candidate can be, the better chance he or she has to win the Democratic nomination.

00:17:58.000 Well, I don't believe it.

00:18:01.000 I really don't.

00:18:02.000 If Democrats, I believe Democrats want to unify this nation.

00:18:06.000 That's what our party's always been about.

00:18:08.000 If American people want a president to add to our division, lead with a clenched fist, a closed hand, a hard heart, To demonize your opponents, to spew hatred.

00:18:20.000 They don't need me.

00:18:21.000 They've got President Donald Trump.

00:18:23.000 OK, well, the fact is that Barack Obama did run with a closed fist and a hard heart.

00:18:28.000 He was quite cruel to his political opponents throughout his presidency.

00:18:32.000 He was constantly suggesting that his political opponents were motivated by racism and greed.

00:18:37.000 Joe Biden did a lot of the same sort of stuff.

00:18:39.000 Nonetheless, this is the face that Democrats are going to try to present.

00:18:41.000 And here's the thing.

00:18:42.000 A lot of people are saying Joe Biden is running Hillary Clinton's campaign.

00:18:45.000 And to a certain extent, he is.

00:18:47.000 The difference is that Joe Biden is not Hillary Clinton.

00:18:50.000 You can run an identical campaign, but the face that you present to the public makes a huge, huge difference.

00:18:56.000 Now, Biden is also making the case that President Trump's economy is an inherited economy.

00:19:00.000 It's the Obama economy.

00:19:01.000 Now, there is some truth to that in the sense that the stock market did grow consistently from 2009 to 2016.

00:19:08.000 There is a bit of lack of truth in the sense that the economy of the United States was growing in the slowest recovery in the history of the United States, and then Trump took office.

00:19:17.000 And correlation does not always equal causation, but the economy has dramatically accelerated under President Trump in terms of quarter-to-quarter GDP growth.

00:19:25.000 Here is Joe Biden, though, saying that Donald Trump inherited all the good stuff.

00:19:30.000 President Trump likes to take credit for the economy and the economic growth and the low unemployment numbers.

00:19:36.000 But just look at the facts, not the alternative facts.

00:19:41.000 President Trump inherited an economy from Obama-Biden administration that was given to him, just like he inherited everything else in his life.

00:19:52.000 So this is the case that Joe Biden is obviously going to be making.

00:19:55.000 Now, as I say, the Democratic Party platform is way out to the left.

00:20:00.000 Joe Biden simply puts a palatable face on that Democratic Party platform.

00:20:03.000 And it's interesting because President Trump is really trying desperately not to be drawn into some of the most politically polarizing fights.

00:20:10.000 So over the weekend, President Trump was asked, for example, about Pete Buttigieg and his gay marriage.

00:20:16.000 And Trump said, there are a lot of people in my own party who oppose same-sex marriage.

00:20:18.000 I'm not one of those people.

00:20:19.000 I think it's great.

00:20:20.000 So that's Trump trying to defang that particular argument from the left.

00:20:25.000 He did the same thing on abortion.

00:20:26.000 Over the weekend, President Trump suggested that Alabama's abortion law was effectively too strict.

00:20:32.000 The president tweeted out that he was strategically against it.

00:20:35.000 And I think, as I said last week, that there's a case to be made that the Alabama abortion law, while morally correct, is a strategic mistake in the sense that it is highly, highly unlikely that the Supreme Court is ready to strike down Roe versus Wade.

00:20:47.000 Still, the fact that President Trump is attempting to kind of elide the issue shows that President Trump is also trying to run for that moderate middle.

00:20:56.000 President Trump tweeted this out.

00:20:57.000 He said,

00:21:27.000 of the controversy over abortion laws.

00:21:29.000 So President Trump is trying to run for the middle.

00:21:33.000 And the truth is, his policies are a lot closer to the middle than Joe Biden's.

00:21:36.000 Now, in a second, I will provide proof that the Democratic Party is basically just trying to put a palatable face on radical leftism, while Trump is actually much more moderate on policy than, I think, the typical Republican.

00:21:47.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:23:01.000 OK, so the other candidate in the Democratic race who has been heating up is Pete Buttigieg.

00:23:06.000 This has been true for months.

00:23:07.000 The reason that Pete Buttigieg has risen in the polls is because Pete Buttigieg puts out a moderate face on radical policy.

00:23:13.000 Unlike Elizabeth Warren, who seems like a radical, and Bernie Sanders, who is openly a radical, and Kamala Harris, who is openly a radical, Pete Buttigieg has attempted to kind of play it both ways.

00:23:23.000 He's the best politician in this race on the Democratic side, including Joe Biden.

00:23:27.000 I mean, he's coming out of nowhere in South Bend, Indiana, with effectively no real record to run on.

00:23:34.000 It's pretty impressive.

00:23:35.000 I mean, honestly, because if you look at the polling in South Bend, according to a report that just came out recently, the City of South Bend Community Survey from 2018, 65% of South Bend residents are dissatisfied with the maintenance of city streets, sidewalks, and infrastructure.

00:23:52.000 51% don't agree they have an overall feeling of safety in their neighborhood.

00:23:55.000 64% disagree that the city has a safe community for everyone.

00:23:59.000 70% don't agree the city has a vibrant, welcoming neighborhood.

00:24:02.000 71% don't agree the city has a strong, inclusive economy.

00:24:05.000 And 72% don't agree that all residents are empowered with education, mobility, and technology.

00:24:12.000 There's been an uptick in violence as well in the city of South Bend.

00:24:14.000 Nonetheless, Pete Buttigieg is running a successful campaign for, I think, probably the vice presidency.

00:24:20.000 Why?

00:24:21.000 Because he is putting that palatable face on radical policies.

00:24:25.000 And we're going to deconstruct how Democrats are successful at doing this.

00:24:28.000 So, Pete Buttigieg.

00:24:30.000 His number one pitch is that Trump is a bad man. 0.98

00:24:33.000 Trump is a very, very, orange man bad, very, very bad man. 0.95

00:24:35.000 So people to judge first of all is smart enough to go on Fox News. 0.94

00:24:39.000 This is a smart move.

00:24:40.000 The reason it's a smart move is because he understands that there really is no loss for him.

00:24:45.000 If things go badly for him, he just claims that Fox News is biased against the left.

00:24:48.000 And if things go well for him, then he gets to claim that he has walked into the lion's den and emerged unscathed.

00:24:54.000 Also, he rips into Fox News on Fox News, which How would you handle the insults and the attacks and the tweets and all of that?

00:25:01.000 So Buttigieg starts off by attacking President Trump as a grotesque human.

00:25:06.000 How would you handle the insults and the attacks and the tweets and all of that?

00:25:11.000 The tweets are...

00:25:13.000 I don't care.

00:25:15.000 And that gets a lot of applause here.

00:25:18.000 The fact is, it's a very effective way for him to reach tens of millions of Americans.

00:25:22.000 Well, it's a very effective way to command the attention of the media.

00:25:25.000 And I think that, you know, we need to make sure that we're changing the channel from this show that he's created.

00:25:32.000 Because what matters, and I get it, look, it's mesmerizing, it's hard for anybody to look away.

00:25:35.000 Me too.

00:25:36.000 It is the nature of grotesque things that you can't look away.

00:25:40.000 OK, so I think that his take here is the smart take, which is I don't care about his tweets. 0.94

00:25:45.000 President Trump is just a grotesque figure.

00:25:47.000 Again, Orange Man Bad is part of the Democratic campaign, but he looks moderate by not fulminating. 0.66

00:25:52.000 Buttigieg's attitude is I'm going to smile through this.

00:25:53.000 I'm not going to fulminate, which is a smart thing to do.

00:25:55.000 And then Buttigieg pleases the left by going after Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham on Fox News.

00:26:00.000 This is his big win that he's going to get from the left.

00:26:03.000 You know, a lot of folks in my party were critical of me for even doing this with Fox News.

00:26:09.000 I've heard that.

00:26:12.000 And I get where that's coming from, especially when you see what goes on with some of the opinion hosts on this network.

00:26:17.000 I mean, when you've got Tucker Carlson saying that immigrants make America dirty, when you've got Laura Ingraham comparing detention centers with children in cages to summer camps, summer camps, then there is a reason why anybody has to swallow hard and think twice before participating in this media ecosystem.

00:26:36.000 Okay, so again, this is his way of pandering to the left.

00:26:39.000 Now, the reality is that what Tucker Carlson actually said is he said that if you bring in a lot of people from countries that don't have the same culture regarding keeping the streets clean, the streets will be a little more dirty.

00:26:50.000 That's my recollection of Tucker Carlson's comments.

00:26:52.000 I don't think they're wonderful comments, but I also don't think that Buttigieg is being accurate in his characterization.

00:26:57.000 And as far as Laura Ingraham, again, I don't think they're wonderful comments when she is comparing detention centers to summer camps, but My recollection of that is that what she is discussing is that people actually are being treated pretty humanely in detention centers, which is generally a true story.

00:27:11.000 OK, nonetheless, Buttigieg wins some points with the left for saying all of that sort of stuff.

00:27:17.000 And because he is coming off as moderate, because of the way he expresses himself as a moderate, he's able to get away with pushing very extreme policies.

00:27:25.000 This is the Democratic plan.

00:27:27.000 So here's Pete Buttigieg on abortion.

00:27:34.000 He's asked about whether abortions should be restricted.

00:27:36.000 And he basically says, no, there should be no restrictions on abortion.

00:27:39.000 But after all, he's saying it in a nice tone, so I guess he's a moderate now.

00:27:43.000 Thank you.

00:27:49.000 So I believe that the right of a woman to make her own decisions about her reproductive health and about her body is a national right.

00:27:58.000 I believe it's an American freedom.

00:28:00.000 And I believe that should be enjoyed by women everywhere.

00:28:05.000 Now it's funny because a lot of people are pointing out that he's getting a big ovation in the Fox News studios.

00:28:09.000 That's because the people who are going to the Fox News town hall with Pete Buttigieg are not rabid right-wingers.

00:28:14.000 They're fans of Pete Buttigieg.

00:28:15.000 Bernie Sanders also got big ovations while he was on Fox News.

00:28:18.000 Then Buttigieg was asked specifically about third trimester abortions.

00:28:22.000 And Pete Buttigieg defended third trimester abortions, partial birth abortion, abortion up to point of birth.

00:28:27.000 These are radical positions that the American public does not hold.

00:28:30.000 Here's Pete Buttigieg making that defense.

00:28:32.000 ...saying that you would be okay with a woman, well into the third trimester, deciding to abort her pregnancy.

00:28:38.000 Look, these hypotheticals are usually set up in order to provoke a strong emotional... No, but in fairness, sir, it's not hypothetical.

00:28:45.000 There's 6,000 women a year who get abortions in the third trimester. 1.00

00:28:48.000 That's right, representing less than 1% of cases.

00:28:50.000 I know, but 6,000 pregnancies.

00:28:51.000 If it's that late in your pregnancy, that means almost by definition you've been expecting to carry it to term.

00:28:58.000 We're talking about women who have perhaps chosen a name, women who have purchased a crib, families that then get the most devastating medical news of their lifetime.

00:29:08.000 Okay, that is not true.

00:29:09.000 If you look at the rationales that are generally given for late-term abortion, it is not health problems in the vast majority of cases, according to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, according to people who have surveyed women who have late-term abortions.

00:29:20.000 He sounds moderate, and Buttigieg is really good at this, but because Wallace was not asking serious follow-up questions there, I mean, he started to, right?

00:29:28.000 He says there are 6,000 pregnancies, and Buttigieg goes, well, it's just 1% of cases.

00:29:31.000 Why are we even worried about those 1% of cases?

00:29:33.000 Well, let's put it this way.

00:29:34.000 More people are killed every year In late-term abortions, 1% of all cases in America, it's about a million abortions a year, so that means that 1% of a million is what, 10,000 cases a year?

00:29:48.000 10,000 people about somewhere in that neighborhood are killed with guns in the United States, not in suicides but in homicides.

00:29:54.000 That's that number of late-term abortions. 1.00

00:29:56.000 I don't see Pete Buttigieg talking about why shootings in the United States are not a huge problem.

00:30:01.000 Nonetheless, Nonetheless, he does come off as more moderate.

00:30:04.000 And this is the pitch of the Democratic Party.

00:30:07.000 It's a personality pitch.

00:30:08.000 It is not actually a political pitch.

00:30:10.000 It's a personality pitch.

00:30:12.000 We'll continue along these lines.

00:30:13.000 Then we'll show you what it looks like when you remove the nice personality and you get Bernie Sanders.

00:30:17.000 Because it's the same policies, it's just that now the nice personality is gone and you get the irritating guy from Brooklyn.

00:30:22.000 We'll talk about that in just one second.

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00:32:52.000 So Buttigieg has a big night, and that big night is predicated on him expressing very radical ideas in the most moderate possible fashions.

00:33:06.000 So here's Buttigieg pitching tax hikes openly three times in about a minute on Fox News last night.

00:33:12.000 When candidates, Democrats, go out promising, as I think we should, that we're going to have major increases in investment in things like education, health, and infrastructure, we've also got to be willing to say where the revenue is going to come from.

00:33:24.000 And it's why we really do need to entertain ideas like, I would say, a fairer, which means higher, marginal income tax rate on those earning the most, a reasonable wealth tax, or something like that, to make sure that people are giving back when they become enormously wealthy.

00:33:40.000 Okay, these are massive tax hikes that he's talking about.

00:33:43.000 A wealth tax is unconstitutional.

00:33:44.000 There's no predicate for Congress being able to pass a wealth tax.

00:33:47.000 It is not approved by the Constitution.

00:33:49.000 Only income taxes are approved by the Constitution, as well as tariffs, for example, or levies on the states.

00:33:55.000 There are certain specific types of taxes that are approved by the Constitution.

00:33:58.000 A wealth tax is not one of them.

00:33:59.000 When he suggests that people at the top of the income bracket have to pay more in top marginal tax rates, That's insane.

00:34:04.000 Yeah, it's insane.

00:34:05.000 I have paid virtually every tax rate in the system over the course of my career.

00:34:09.000 I promise you, the percentage that I'm paying now is so much higher than the percentage that I paid five years ago, it would make your head swim.

00:34:15.000 The people who are at the top of the income brackets are paying for virtually everything in this country on a net basis.

00:34:21.000 Nonetheless, because Buttigieg comes off as moderate, he comes off as moderate.

00:34:25.000 He also tries to downplay his lack of moderation.

00:34:27.000 So, Buttigieg was on Hugh Hewitt's radio show, and Hugh Hewitt asked him about Jefferson-Jackson dinners.

00:34:32.000 These are these historic Democrat dinners where people go around, they do fundraising, and they've been named after Thomas Jefferson as well as Andrew Jackson.

00:34:39.000 And Buttigieg basically disowns Jefferson a little bit.

00:34:41.000 People, I think, are exaggerating this, but here's what Buttigieg had to say about Thomas Jefferson.

00:34:46.000 Could Jefferson, Jackson, Dinners be renamed everywhere because both were holders of slaves?

00:34:51.000 Yeah, we're doing that in Indiana.

00:34:53.000 I think it's the right thing to do.

00:34:54.000 You know, over time you develop and evolve on the things you choose to honor, and I think we know enough, especially Jackson.

00:35:03.000 You know, you just look at what basically enough to genocide that happened here.

00:35:06.000 Jefferson's more problematic.

00:35:08.000 You know, there's a lot to, of course, admire in his thinking and his philosophy.

00:35:13.000 If you plunge into his writings, especially the notes on the state of Virginia, you know that he knew that slavery was wrong, and yet he did it. 0.53

00:35:23.000 Okay, and then he continued by suggesting that they maybe ought to rename all of these things.

00:35:27.000 He says, over time you develop and evolve on the things you choose to honor.

00:35:30.000 Naming something after someone confers a lot of honor.

00:35:32.000 Buttigieg tried to walk that back on Fox News because he realizes how radical it sounds to the vast majority of Americans to rename things not after Thomas Jefferson.

00:35:41.000 Here is Buttigieg making that case.

00:35:44.000 My campaign office is actually on Jefferson Boulevard.

00:35:47.000 So are you going to change the name?

00:35:49.000 I'm not planning that.

00:35:50.000 But this is a great example, actually, of how the media noise machine on the right wing takes things out of control.

00:35:55.000 So I mentioned this, that some counties are rethinking some of our events.

00:35:58.000 Some of you might have seen this, right?

00:36:00.000 Basically, I said that, you know, we're rethinking how we might, democratic functions, might name our event.

00:36:07.000 Maybe we should name it for a person who's living.

00:36:08.000 Maybe we should name it after a person of color.

00:36:10.000 I don't know.

00:36:11.000 Next thing you know, you would have thought I had proposed blowing up the Jefferson Memorial in D.C.

00:36:15.000 And folks from Laura Ingram on this network to a columnist actually in the New York Times, so it's not just a Fox thing, just jumped on that.

00:36:23.000 Well, yeah, they jumped on it because you suggested that maybe we should actually rename things, right?

00:36:28.000 I mean, it was in that context.

00:36:29.000 Now, I'm glad that Buttigieg is clarifying all of that, but he did... I mean, we played the comments for you, so you can make your own decision.

00:36:37.000 President Trump was very angry, frankly, that Buttigieg was even getting this attention.

00:36:41.000 It's a problem that the president sees Fox News as his specific preserve.

00:36:44.000 Fox News is not, in fact, the president's preserve, as Brit Hume pointed out.

00:36:47.000 It is a news network, and they do, if they can, have an obligation to have on Democrats to interview them.

00:36:52.000 I will point out that Buttigieg has expressed interest in coming on our Sunday special, and then, as soon as the left hit him, he ran away.

00:36:59.000 He has not gotten back to us.

00:37:01.000 He did the same thing to my friend Dave Rubin.

00:37:03.000 He was willing to go on Fox News because Fox News is traditional television, but he's not willing to go on with anybody who might have a longer form conversation with him in the absence of a crowd, I think.

00:37:15.000 In any case, President Trump tweeted out, Hard to believe that Fox News is wasting airtime on Mayor Pete, as Chris Wallace likes to call him.

00:37:20.000 Fox is moving more and more to the losing, wrong side in covering the Dems.

00:37:24.000 They got dumped from the Democrats' boring debates, and they just won in.

00:37:26.000 They forgot the people who got them there.

00:37:29.000 Chris Wallace actually said, I actually think whether you like his opinions or not, Mayor Pete has a lot of substance.

00:37:34.000 Fascinating biography.

00:37:35.000 Gee, he never speaks well of me.

00:37:36.000 I like Mike Wallace better.

00:37:37.000 And Alfred E. Newman will never be president.

00:37:40.000 Well, first of all, the Alfred E. Newman tag on Mayor Pete is pretty great.

00:37:43.000 But beyond that, Trump is evincing and evidencing.

00:37:49.000 He's evidencing a fair bit of disquiet here.

00:37:51.000 And if he's really confident in this election, Advice to President Trump.

00:37:56.000 Just stop.

00:37:57.000 Because this is all going to play out.

00:37:59.000 Democrats are going to savage each other.

00:38:00.000 All you have to do is sit off to the side.

00:38:01.000 You don't need to comment every time you see somebody on the TV who's ripping into you.

00:38:05.000 All you're doing is elevating Pete Buttigieg.

00:38:07.000 Now, as I've been saying, Buttigieg presents an attractive face for Democratic radicalism.

00:38:12.000 In those clips, you heard him Effectively argue in favor of late-term abortion, including up to point of birth, in favor of massive wealth tax increases, him attacking other news networks, which is, last I heard when President Trump did it, all of a sudden it was an attack on the press.

00:38:26.000 When Buttigieg does it, then it's just him being brave.

00:38:29.000 But when you strip away the nice face, what you end up with here is Bernie Sanders.

00:38:33.000 Bernie Sanders makes exactly the same points that Pete Buttigieg does on most of these topics.

00:38:37.000 Here's Bernie Sanders over the weekend talking about abortion on NBC News with Chuck Todd.

00:38:42.000 Go, Bernie, talk!

00:38:44.000 Do you believe there should be any restrictions on abortion in in law?

00:38:50.000 I think that that is a decision that is being made that should be made by the woman and her physician and I think many of you know what what people are doing is sadly is creating a political issue out of a medical issue so the decision about women should be able to control their own body and those decisions are made by a doctor.

00:39:12.000 So, again, this is Bernie Sanders repeating the same rote talking points, but they don't sound as attractive coming from Bernie Sanders because he's not as attractive a candidate.

00:39:19.000 Bernie Sanders, by the way, over the weekend also suggested that baseball players make too much money.

00:39:24.000 You know, when folks on the right say that folks on the left sound like economic fascists, like they want to control every aspect of your economic life, this would be the reason why.

00:39:32.000 Listen to how Bernie Sanders describes baseball players being paid.

00:39:36.000 It's pretty amazing.

00:39:38.000 So if we are a nation that can provide contracts to baseball players for hundreds of millions of dollars, don't tell me we cannot pay teachers in this country the kind of wages and salaries they deserve.

00:39:52.000 The government does not pay baseball players.

00:39:54.000 Okay?

00:39:54.000 And the government is not the nation.

00:39:56.000 We pay baseball players because we are willing.

00:39:58.000 When teachers can draw 40,000 paying customers, then they will get paid like baseball players.

00:40:03.000 That's not the way this works.

00:40:04.000 There are lots and lots of teachers who are capable of teaching third grade.

00:40:07.000 There are only a couple of people on planet Earth who are capable of hitting a 100 mile per hour baseball and entertaining millions of people.

00:40:14.000 That doesn't mean that on a social level, what is more valuable are baseball players than teachers.

00:40:18.000 It means that there is a market for baseball players in a way there is not for teachers, and that if you want to get paid like a baseball player, you have to be one of the couple hundred most elite people on planet Earth at this particular job.

00:40:28.000 I mean, I guess maybe teachers should just go write a book like Bernie Sanders, right?

00:40:31.000 Bernie Sanders says that he's written a best-selling book, and this means that he deserves the wealth that he has earned from his books.

00:40:36.000 I guess those teachers maybe should just go write a book.

00:40:40.000 Again, when you strip away the attractive facade of the Pete Buttigiegs, what you end up with is Bernie Sanders.

00:40:46.000 Now, Bernie Sanders also did an interview over the weekend about his foreign policy that is extraordinarily radical and frightening and reminds us why Democrats should not be in charge of foreign policy.

00:40:55.000 That when Barack Obama left office, the world was on fire in a lot of ways.

00:41:00.000 That the Arab Spring was a giant fail. 0.99

00:41:02.000 That the former president of the United States shipped pallets of cash to Iran.

00:41:06.000 The former president of the United States let Russia walk all over him.

00:41:09.000 And now Bernie Sanders is promoting that exact same sort of foreign policy.

00:41:13.000 He said, I plead guilty to, throughout my adult life, doing everything that I can to prevent war and destruction.

00:41:20.000 Really?

00:41:21.000 Everything he could to prevent war and destruction?

00:41:22.000 Like he supported the communists in Nicaragua.

00:41:26.000 He honeymooned in the Soviet Union.

00:41:28.000 I'm pretty sure he didn't do everything he could to avoid war and destruction.

00:41:33.000 He said, I am very proud that in my small city we established two sister city programs, which I believe honestly are still going on today.

00:41:38.000 One with Yaroslavl, a city in Russia, the other with the city Puerto Cabezas in Nicaragua.

00:41:43.000 And I happen to believe cultural exchanges and student exchanges are a very important tool to try to bring people together and avoid wars.

00:41:49.000 And also I help lead the opposition to the war in Iraq, etc, etc, etc.

00:41:54.000 And he says that he was asked by the New York Times that that Bernie attended a rally in Managua and a wire report at the time said there were anti-American chants from the crowd.

00:42:04.000 And Bernie answered, the United States was actively supporting the Contras to overthrow the government.

00:42:08.000 So there was anti-American sentiment.

00:42:09.000 I remember that.

00:42:09.000 I remember that event very clearly.

00:42:11.000 He said they were fighting against American.

00:42:13.000 He said, are you shocked to learn there was anti-American sentiment?

00:42:16.000 In other words, he sided with the communist government of Nicaragua and was not upset when people were chanting anti-American things.

00:42:23.000 That is the foreign policy of Bernie Sanders.

00:42:25.000 Unfortunately, that's the foreign policy of a large swath of the Democratic Party today.

00:42:29.000 There's been a lot of talk about quote-unquote nut picking, meaning finding nuts in the Democratic Party and talking about them.

00:42:35.000 The fact is the mainstream Democratic Party has moved significantly to the left over time.

00:42:41.000 Bernie Sanders is now considered a thought leader in the Democratic Party, where he was considered a kook back in the 1980s.

00:42:46.000 Even mainstream Democrats are pushing radical policies.

00:42:48.000 Amy Klobuchar, who is considered a more moderate-to-right-leaning Democrat, was asked about abortion over the weekend by Chris Wallace, and she said she didn't want any abortion restrictions.

00:42:58.000 Are you okay with abortions after 24 weeks?

00:43:04.000 To protect the life and the health of the mother.

00:43:07.000 That is exactly what the Supreme Court ruling says.

00:43:11.000 And I am OK with that.

00:43:12.000 To protect the life and health of the mother.

00:43:15.000 Health of the mother means that for any reason, effectively, you can get an abortion. 0.64

00:43:19.000 Kirsten Gillibrand, also running for president, a sitting senator from New York.

00:43:22.000 She was asked about immigration detentions.

00:43:24.000 She said, I would detain no one.

00:43:26.000 She would have no detentions at the border.

00:43:28.000 This is the Democratic Party.

00:43:29.000 And the Democratic Party is trying to shield their own radicalism by putting out Joe Biden, who's just sort of seen as this doddering old nice guy and Pete Buttigieg, who's seen as a moderate because he wears a tie, but he doesn't wear a jacket and because he's a friendly face.

00:43:45.000 But Kirsten Gillibrand is, again, a mainstream Democrat.

00:43:48.000 Here she is saying she would not detain anyone ever.

00:43:51.000 then support something like Senator Graham has proposed, which would, you mentioned family separation, to stop what the administration has used as a justification for that.

00:44:02.000 They have said, look, legally we're restricted to only keeping people in detention together for 20 days.

00:44:08.000 You can't move them through the process that fast.

00:44:10.000 I wouldn't keep them in detention at all.

00:44:11.000 But you oppose even what the Obama administration did in terms of keeping families together or keeping him together for a longer period of time in detention?

00:44:21.000 I wouldn't, as President of the United States, I wouldn't use the detention system at all.

00:44:25.000 At all?

00:44:26.000 At all?

00:44:26.000 Okay, that is a mainstream Democrat running for President talking about that.

00:44:30.000 Kamala Harris over the weekend.

00:44:32.000 Came out and said that she wants to find companies that pay men more than women.

00:44:36.000 Not on the basis of experience, not on the basis of different jobs.

00:44:39.000 If, just plainly, on average, men are paid more than women, even if women take time off from the workforce, have different jobs, work fewer hours, she wants to find those companies.

00:44:48.000 That's the heart and soul of the Democratic Party at this point.

00:44:51.000 It's going to be up to President Trump to, number one, provide a more palatable face for his policies, and number two, to point out that no matter how friendly these Democrats may appear, the Pete Buttigiegs and the Joe Bidens, Behind the smiling facade lurks the same agenda as Kirsten Gillibrand and Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders.

00:45:09.000 That is the task for the President of the United States if he wishes to win re-election.

00:45:12.000 It is indeed that simple.

00:45:13.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then we'll get to some things that I hate.

00:45:16.000 So, things that I like.

00:45:18.000 So Mark Levin has a new book out this week.

00:45:19.000 I've been reading it over the weekend.

00:45:20.000 It's really fun.

00:45:21.000 It's called Unfreedom of the Press.

00:45:22.000 By fun, I mean that it's an easy read.

00:45:25.000 It tells you a lot about the history of the press in the United States.

00:45:27.000 It's already number one at Amazon, blowing up on the charts.

00:45:30.000 So go check out Mark Levin's new book.

00:45:32.000 I think it only comes out in a couple of days, but you can preorder it right now on Freedom of the Press.

00:45:35.000 Mark's a good friend and a wonderful dude and a great thinker.

00:45:38.000 Go check out on Freedom of the Press right now.

00:45:40.000 Other things that I like, so I have to say congratulations to not only everybody who graduated over the weekend and is graduating over the coming few weeks, because we have a lot of college students, law students who listen to the program.

00:45:51.000 My brother-in-law graduated from University of Virginia Law School yesterday.

00:45:53.000 So congratulations to Jacob.

00:45:55.000 But to all grads, I want to say congratulations because big weekend for you.

00:45:59.000 Other things that I like.

00:46:01.000 So Jim Carrey put out a cartoon that I think is actually quite wonderful.

00:46:05.000 He put out a cartoon and it said, I think if you're going to terminate a pregnancy, it should be done sometime before the fetus becomes governor of Alabama.

00:46:12.000 His painting is of what appears to be a late term abortion of Governor Kay Ivey.

00:46:16.000 It's her face and her brains are being sucked into some sort of tube. 0.99

00:46:22.000 Now, the reason that I put this in Things I Like is because it does demonstrate, full scale, how many pro-abortion activists feel.

00:46:29.000 They are fine with the procedure of abortion.

00:46:31.000 This is a pretty accurate depiction of what a DNE looks like, a dilation and extraction, or a DNC, actually.

00:46:41.000 Basically, the tube here is sucking out the brains of Governor Kay Ivey. 1.00

00:46:44.000 By the way, no suspension on Twitter.

00:46:46.000 Nothing.

00:46:48.000 Really, social media is not cracking down on this at all.

00:46:52.000 It has, by the way, almost 100,000 likes at this point.

00:46:55.000 The murder of Kay Ivey, the sitting governor of the state of Alabama.

00:46:59.000 So, number one, many Democrats, not all, many Democrats don't care about the brutality of the procedure, even if they fully understand it, as this painting seems to.

00:47:07.000 And number two, If they could, they would murder everyone who they disagree with, which is a pretty amazing, amazing thing from Jim Carrey.

00:47:14.000 So thanks to Jim Carrey for at least his honesty.

00:47:17.000 Okay, other things that I like today.

00:47:19.000 So this could be both in things I like and things I hate.

00:47:21.000 The time has come for our Game of Thrones finale review.

00:47:25.000 So if you have not yet seen the Game of Thrones finale, then you're going to want to skip the next few minutes of the program because I am going to go into great detail.

00:47:33.000 And that means that we are going to have to, we are going to have to spoil some things.

00:47:39.000 Okay, so, let's talk about what just happened.

00:47:43.000 The episode starts, Jon is watching as Grey Worm basically executes people, and then Jon is told by, so Tyrion gets imprisoned, and Jon does nothing.

00:47:54.000 The biggest problem with this season of Game of Thrones, and the last season actually, is that Jon becomes a non-factor.

00:47:59.000 Jon is basically an extra in this season. 0.68

00:48:02.000 He's turned into a whiny twerp.

00:48:04.000 So he goes around the season basically lovesick for Dani, who's his aunt, by the way. 0.83

00:48:10.000 He watches her nuke a million people, and he's still spending half the episode going, well, she's my queen.

00:48:15.000 She's my queen.

00:48:16.000 She just nuked a million people, dude. 1.00

00:48:18.000 A million.

00:48:20.000 Like, I have seen you try to take up arms to go with Rob and you were about to leave.

00:48:24.000 I've seen you go defend the wildlings from the north instead of letting them all get killed.

00:48:30.000 You let a battle in Winterfell against Ramsay Bolton?

00:48:34.000 And yet, when it comes to Dany, suddenly it's cool for her to nuke the entire city of King's Landing?

00:48:41.000 You don't draw a line there?

00:48:42.000 So, Jon is basically whiny.

00:48:44.000 He sees Tyrion, who has screwed everything up.

00:48:46.000 Tyrion says to him, you need to take out Dany. 1.00

00:48:48.000 Why?

00:48:49.000 Well, because you are the one true heir.

00:48:51.000 And now, the entire series has been set up to this point, that Jon is the true heir, and it should matter that he is the true heir.

00:48:56.000 And not only that, Jon has to be active because he is the hero of the story.

00:49:01.000 So, Jon goes, he sees Dany, all this is fine, Dany is going crazy, and she gives the full-on fascist-slash-communist answer, which is, in the pursuit of utopia, I get to kill whoever I want, which is something that fascists have said Many, many times, right?

00:49:16.000 This is the Milton Friedman description, the Frederick Hayek description of fascism and socialism. 0.91

00:49:22.000 And John's like, OK, well, you're hot and you're my aunt, but enough. 0.97

00:49:26.000 And he kills her. 0.99

00:49:28.000 So once John kills her, this is where things begin to go wildly wrong.

00:49:31.000 So what has to happen at that point is that John then has to take the throne, at least temporarily.

00:49:38.000 The dragon is right there.

00:49:39.000 For some reason, the dragon is pissed off at the throne.

00:49:42.000 Nobody knows why.

00:49:43.000 Dragon's just like, you know what?

00:49:44.000 This throne right here, this MF-er, I'm taking out the throne. 1.00

00:49:47.000 And he just blowtorches the throne, the dragon.

00:49:49.000 You're like, well, that's weird.

00:49:50.000 Don't know why the dragon is doing that.

00:49:53.000 And the dragon won't attack Jon, obviously, because he's Targaryen.

00:49:56.000 But the question is, what happens next?

00:49:57.000 Because the next thing you see, you flash forward to three weeks later, and Jon is in prison.

00:50:00.000 This makes no sense.

00:50:02.000 Grey Worm has just executed half the city.

00:50:04.000 And you think Grey Worm's not going to run in and try to kill Jon, like, right then, that instant?

00:50:08.000 The dragon has already flown away with Dany's body.

00:50:11.000 There's nothing to stop him.

00:50:12.000 Why doesn't he just run in and spear Jon through the chest? 0.95

00:50:15.000 That's what you would expect to happen.

00:50:16.000 And even that would have made a certain amount of sense if Sansa had then arrived and fought Grey Worm or something.

00:50:22.000 But instead, we just fast forward to three weeks later and everybody's just having a meeting for no reason.

00:50:28.000 Okay, so, here, I'll tell you what should have happened after I tell you what does happen.

00:50:31.000 We've finished reviewing the episode.

00:50:32.000 So, the, so, Jon ends up in prison.

00:50:36.000 And Tyrion's in prison, too.

00:50:38.000 And then suddenly, we're three weeks later, and Tyrion is brought forth, and there's this council.

00:50:42.000 And the council is basically Sansa Stark and all of her family members.

00:50:45.000 Right, it's the Tullys, who you will recall are the relatives of her mother, and it is the Arryns, who are also relatives of her mother.

00:50:52.000 So it's like her mom's entire family is now the only powerful people in Westeros.

00:50:57.000 And Tyrion comes out, and Grey Worm shows up.

00:50:59.000 And Grey Worm's like, well, we're not going to let Jon go. 0.67

00:51:01.000 We want to execute him.

00:51:02.000 And Sans is like, well, if you execute him, we're going to go to war with you. 0.73

00:51:06.000 And their agreement is that we are going to send Jon north to the wall.

00:51:10.000 This is the problem.

00:51:11.000 If Jon wanted to take the crown and then abdicate and say, listen, I don't want any part of this.

00:51:16.000 I've been too messed up by this, like Frodo at the end of Lord of the Rings.

00:51:19.000 I got to go north of the wall.

00:51:20.000 I'm not interested.

00:51:21.000 That would make some sense.

00:51:22.000 He is the rightful heir.

00:51:23.000 Instead, he's getting negotiated over by Grey Worm, who is at best a secondary character and Sansa Stark.

00:51:31.000 Okay, so, we'll get to what should have happened, as I say, in a second.

00:51:36.000 So, there's this council, and the council's all sitting there, and they're like, oh, who should we make the king?

00:51:41.000 And the only funny moment of this, by the way, is when Sam proposes a democracy, and then all of the Lord's like, ha ha ha, we have an electoral college here.

00:51:48.000 That was pretty great, I will admit, because my great fear was that it was gonna be like, let all the people vote.

00:51:53.000 Listen, in real life, I'm a big fan of all the people voting.

00:51:56.000 In fantasy fiction, how anticlimactic would it be if they're like, we have to let all the people vote, and then all the people vote for like, whoever's the reality TV star of the day.

00:52:04.000 But who do they decide on?

00:52:07.000 So here's who they don't decide on.

00:52:09.000 They don't decide on Sansa, who's sitting right there, happens to be Queen of the North, also is the legitimate heir to Jon.

00:52:18.000 Right, Jon is the rightful king.

00:52:20.000 If Jon is not the king, who is the legitimate heir to Jon?

00:52:23.000 Well, she, presumably, as Queen of the North would be, because Bran has declared himself unavailable for this job.

00:52:28.000 Right, Bran goes back to Winterfell at some point earlier, and he's the rightful heir, and he's like, I don't want it, I'm not interested in it.

00:52:34.000 I'm not interested in it.

00:52:36.000 But it's not going to go to Sansa.

00:52:37.000 Tyrion is like, you know, everything is built around stories.

00:52:41.000 Everything is built.

00:52:42.000 We need a story to sell to the people.

00:52:44.000 And who has a better story than Bran?

00:52:46.000 And I'm sitting there going, everyone.

00:52:49.000 Every single person who is sitting there, including Edmund Tully, has a better story than Bran.

00:52:53.000 Bran's story is, he was thrown out of a tower, and then people sledded him around for seven seasons.

00:52:59.000 And now he's here.

00:53:01.000 I'll get to Bran in a second.

00:53:03.000 So everybody on the council is like, yeah, you know what?

00:53:05.000 Great idea.

00:53:06.000 Let's make it Bran.

00:53:07.000 Let's make it the most useless person in all seven seasons of Game of Thrones to this point. 0.95

00:53:11.000 That guy. 0.96

00:53:11.000 Let's make it him. 0.96

00:53:13.000 Except for Sansa.

00:53:14.000 And Sansa says, yeah, not into it.

00:53:17.000 Number one, dude can't have kids.

00:53:19.000 Number two, no.

00:53:20.000 Just no.

00:53:21.000 Not going to do that.

00:53:22.000 I'm going independent.

00:53:23.000 My favorite part of this is that Asha Greyjoy is sitting right there, and she's got to be thinking to herself, why didn't I do that?

00:53:30.000 Like, how does she get out of this, but I don't get out of this?

00:53:32.000 How is that a real thing?

00:53:34.000 And everybody else says, yeah, let's make it Bran, for no reason.

00:53:37.000 For no reason at all.

00:53:39.000 Not Arya, who has killed the Night King, learned to shapeshift, is a member of the Stark family who is not the Three-Eyed Raven, Not her.

00:53:49.000 Not Sansa, who runs a kingdom up north.

00:53:51.000 Not Jon, who is still sitting in prison and is the only true heir to the throne.

00:53:55.000 Right, he's the only Targaryen and he's a Stark.

00:53:58.000 He's the only heir to the throne.

00:53:59.000 No, we're gonna banish Jon to the north for no reason at all.

00:54:03.000 And then, I guess the idea was that he has to be banished to the north because they made a deal with the Unsullied. 0.98

00:54:08.000 Except the Unsullied leave, right? 1.00

00:54:10.000 The Unsullied go to north. 1.00

00:54:11.000 So at that point, wouldn't you see Sansa going, you know who'd be the true king right now?

00:54:14.000 That guy.

00:54:15.000 Nope, Sansa's like, you know what?

00:54:17.000 Sorry I couldn't do anything about you being banished to the north.

00:54:19.000 Where I'm the queen!

00:54:22.000 And she could just be like, yeah, you know, John, you could be on the throne.

00:54:26.000 That would be a thing.

00:54:27.000 Nope.

00:54:27.000 They banish him to the north.

00:54:28.000 So Arya goes and plays Columbus, colonizer Arya, who's, I guess, now our favorite character.

00:54:33.000 She's bringing Westerosi civilization to unknown lands. 0.52

00:54:37.000 And then you get Bran sitting there. 0.67

00:54:40.000 How useless is Bran? 0.51

00:54:41.000 In his first council meeting, his advisors are sitting around talking about, OK, we need a sewage system. 0.97

00:54:46.000 We also need to rebuild our military.

00:54:47.000 And also we need to rebuild our navy.

00:54:49.000 And Bran is like, okay, you guys all do that.

00:54:52.000 I'm gonna go over here and smoke some weed.

00:54:53.000 Basically.

00:54:54.000 Whatever happened to that dragon?

00:54:55.000 I don't know.

00:54:56.000 I'm gonna go over here and warg.

00:54:57.000 Gotta fly like a bird, man.

00:54:59.000 Just like at the Battle of Winterfell. 1.00

00:55:00.000 Gotta fly like a useless person. 0.94

00:55:02.000 So here's what should have happened. 0.95

00:55:04.000 What should have happened, you could even have Bran be king.

00:55:06.000 What should have happened is that after Jon kills Daenerys, before the dragon picks up Dany's body and leaves, Jon should have hopped onto the back of the dragon.

00:55:14.000 The Unsullied come charging up through the door. 1.00

00:55:17.000 They're about to kill Jon, except that Jon is now on top of the greatest killing machine in the history of Westeros.

00:55:23.000 And he says, and then you fade to black because it is obvious that Jon is now the king.

00:55:29.000 Or Jon is on top of the dragon, and then you hear a horn from outside because, remember, Varys sent his little birds all over to let everyone know that Jon is the actual heir to the throne.

00:55:38.000 Everyone is supposed to know this already.

00:55:40.000 Sansa arrives from the north.

00:55:41.000 Now, the Unsullied are trapped in the middle, and they just surrender. 0.99

00:55:45.000 And then Jon says to Sansa and Bran and Tyrion, I can't do this.

00:55:49.000 I'm out.

00:55:49.000 You know, I had to kill this woman that I loved, and I've been too ruined by all of this.

00:55:54.000 I need to go north and find my dog. 0.86

00:55:56.000 And then he gives it to Bran.

00:55:57.000 Then you have the same council scene, and all of that's fine. 0.97

00:55:59.000 The problem is, by robbing Jon of his agency, it makes him a pathetic character. 1.00

00:56:03.000 He's a loser who has to kill the only woman he's interested in, who happens to be his aunt. 1.00

00:56:08.000 And then he gets imprisoned by a eunuch. 0.99

00:56:10.000 And then he gets sent, against his will, back to the north of the Wall.

00:56:13.000 None of that makes any sense at all.

00:56:15.000 Okay, final take on this.

00:56:17.000 Final take on this.

00:56:19.000 I will say, I have an alternative theory.

00:56:25.000 Not everybody's going to like this, but here's my alternative theory.

00:56:27.000 It's my Jar Jar Binks is a Sith theory.

00:56:30.000 My theory is that Bran is the most evil person in Westeros.

00:56:33.000 Because it turns out that Bran can see the future.

00:56:36.000 There's a scene at the council meeting where they're like, Bran, do you want to be the king?

00:56:42.000 And Bran's like, why do you think I came all this way?

00:56:46.000 In other words, I knew it was gonna happen the whole time.

00:56:48.000 Okay, so let's assume he knew it was gonna happen the whole time.

00:56:50.000 Here are the things that Bran did.

00:56:52.000 He's a bad guy.

00:56:53.000 If Bran knew what was gonna happen the whole time, he is a bad, bad man.

00:56:57.000 So what are all the things?

00:56:59.000 One, he abandons Rickon.

00:57:00.000 You remember, he had a brother named Rickon.

00:57:02.000 And he could go back with Rickon to Winterfell.

00:57:04.000 Instead, he's like, you know what?

00:57:06.000 Not interested.

00:57:07.000 Out.

00:57:07.000 Rickon goes back.

00:57:08.000 Rickon gets killed.

00:57:09.000 He's like, I'm gonna take these two people, my two friends here, we're gonna go north of the wall because I'm having these weird visions.

00:57:14.000 Okay, he goes north of the wall, he gets dragged around on a sled, gets one of them killed, gets Hodor killed, and then treats the woman who's carrying him around, I can't even remember her name, Mira?

00:57:24.000 He treats her like garbage, to the point where she's like, why are you treating me badly?

00:57:28.000 He's like, I'm not Bran anymore. 0.99

00:57:30.000 I'm the Three-Eyed Raven.

00:57:31.000 Unless I decide to become king, in which case I'm Bran again.

00:57:34.000 He gets rid of her.

00:57:36.000 Battle of Winterfell happens.

00:57:37.000 He does nothing.

00:57:39.000 Zero things does he do during the Battle of Winterfell.

00:57:41.000 He's like, I'm going to sit here in my chair, not going to do anything.

00:57:44.000 I'm just going to sit here.

00:57:45.000 And am I going to warg into one of the dragons?

00:57:47.000 Nope.

00:57:47.000 Am I going to tell Theon what to do so he can save his life?

00:57:50.000 Nope.

00:57:50.000 I'm going to be like, Theon, you're a good man.

00:57:53.000 Go charge at that guy uselessly and get stabbed. 0.99

00:57:56.000 Well done, Bran. 0.97

00:57:58.000 And Theon's like, well, you could do something.

00:57:59.000 He's like, nope.

00:58:00.000 I'm turning into birds for no reason.

00:58:02.000 Just birds, man.

00:58:03.000 Got to fly like a bird.

00:58:05.000 No, Bran is totally useless during the Battle of Winterfell.

00:58:08.000 He tells Jon about his lineage.

00:58:10.000 For no reason.

00:58:12.000 For no reason.

00:58:12.000 Imagine he doesn't tell Jon about his lineage.

00:58:14.000 Jon marries Dany happily ever after, right?

00:58:17.000 But he tells Jon about his lineage.

00:58:18.000 So now Jon knows his lineage.

00:58:20.000 But he doesn't tell Jon that Dany's gonna go crazy.

00:58:22.000 Which apparently he already knows.

00:58:24.000 Or at least has a good sense of.

00:58:27.000 Which would have been helpful before a million people were burned to death in King's Landing.

00:58:33.000 He then accepts the crown, but after accepting the crown, he doesn't accept the crown and go, and you know what?

00:58:37.000 The true heir is John.

00:58:39.000 John is the king.

00:58:40.000 Instead, he's like, I'm the king now.

00:58:41.000 Okay, I guess I'll stick with this deal.

00:58:42.000 John goes north.

00:58:44.000 He lets his sister go independent, right?

00:58:46.000 He's like, okay, well Sansa, she's going to go independent.

00:58:48.000 That's fine.

00:58:49.000 She gets to take the north.

00:58:50.000 Totally cool.

00:58:50.000 Asha Greyjoy, you stay in.

00:58:52.000 You ain't going nowhere, sister.

00:58:54.000 And then finally, he lets the council handle the sewage and military problems while he puffs the magic dragon.

00:58:58.000 So Bran is actually an evil genius.

00:59:01.000 This is my theory.

00:59:02.000 He's like a Sith Lord. 0.95

00:59:03.000 He's an evil genius.

00:59:05.000 He let the Night King do what he wanted to do for several seasons so that the Night King would take out two dragons, making it possible for him to take the crown after the third dragon couldn't burn Jon.

00:59:13.000 So, it was disappointing.

00:59:17.000 Again, all of it would have been okay if they had let Jon be the character that he was the first few seasons, which is a guy who reluctantly is forced into a position of leadership. 0.98

00:59:24.000 But having Jon be imprisoned by people is so dumb. 0.99

00:59:27.000 It's so dumb. 0.99

00:59:29.000 I guess Tyrion gets what he deserves, sort of. 0.95

00:59:33.000 Sansa is the only person who really... By the way, at the end of the... If there were another season of Game of Thrones, you know who becomes the queen of all Westeros, right?

00:59:40.000 Sansa.

00:59:41.000 Because Bran, when he dies, who's the only legitimate heir?

00:59:46.000 Sansa, who also happens to have the only independent army, and all of whose relatives sit on that council.

00:59:52.000 And happens to be married to the Hand of the King, right?

00:59:53.000 She's still married to Tyrion.

00:59:55.000 So, there's that.

00:59:56.000 Alright, so...

00:59:58.000 Was it a thing I like or a thing I hate?

00:59:59.000 It was mostly a thing that I was kind of pissed about.

01:00:03.000 Overall, the series is still great.

01:00:04.000 I'm just angry that in the end they rob the only hero who is left of his agency in the show.

01:00:11.000 The only thing that he does that is worthwhile is he kills Danny.

01:00:15.000 Which is sad, but then he proceeds to become a loser who is sent back north of the wall the way that he was when he was a kid, which is irritating.

01:00:23.000 Okay, so that counts as, I think, both things I like and things I hate.

01:00:25.000 I think we'll skip the rest because that was about a one-hour recapitulation of Game of Thrones.

01:00:30.000 We'll be back here later today with two additional hours.

01:00:32.000 I plan on spending all of them talking Game of Thrones.

01:00:34.000 In fact, this week, nothing but Game of Thrones talk.

01:00:37.000 Or John Wick 3 Talk.

01:00:38.000 I don't know.

01:00:40.000 I'm getting bored with Pete Buttigieg on Fox News.

01:00:43.000 I'm not sure about you guys, but I'd rather talk Game of Thrones.

01:00:45.000 And we'll see you here later today.

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01:01:13.000 Hey guys, over on the Matt Wall Show today, the Democrats have once again proven that they are a radical, anti-science cult, which we already knew, but now we have more evidence of that, with the passage of a bill that would, if it became law, among other things, force women's sports teams to allow men.

01:01:29.000 So we'll discuss that.

01:01:30.000 Also, Mayor Pete is supposed to be this moderate, reasonable Democrat.

01:01:36.000 But why is he then advocating for abortion in the third trimester?

01:01:40.000 Is that moderate and reasonable now in the Democrat Party?

The Ben Shapiro Show - May 20, 2019

Iran, You Ran, We All Ran | Ep. 784

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