The Ben Shapiro Show - Is The Blue Wave Coming? | Ep. 598

00:00:00.000 Republicans barely hold on to a deep red district in Ohio, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has herself a rough day, and fallout continues from the Alex Jones ban.

00:00:08.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:09.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:15.000 Wow, lots of things happening.

00:00:16.000 Last night was a big election in Ohio.

00:00:19.000 There was also an election in Washington that turned out to be too close for Republicans.

00:00:23.000 None of this is great news for Republicans.

00:00:25.000 I want to talk about what exactly is going on in those elections.

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00:01:57.000 Okay, so last night, the left was prepared for their big moment in the sun.

00:02:02.000 Last night was going to be the moment when they finally won a deep red district.

00:02:05.000 Now the last time they won an actual red seat was when they won the Alabama Senate seat because Roy Moore had been the Republican nominee and it turns out that he liked frequenting the food court back in the 1970s to look for 14-year-old girls, allegedly.

00:02:17.000 Well, he lost that election to a Democrat, but that was seen as largely an outlier.

00:02:22.000 This Ohio election was seen as more of an indicator as to how the elections of 2018 are going to go.

00:02:28.000 This district is heavily, heavily, heavily Republican.

00:02:32.000 This is a very heavy Republican district.

00:02:34.000 When I say it's a heavy Republican district, I mean that this district went for President Trump by something like 11 points.

00:02:41.000 It means that if you look at the counties that are surveyed in the Ohio 12th District, the vast majority of them are R plus 15. 0.89

00:02:49.000 Overall, if you look at how this district has voted, it voted Republican in the last several election cycles.

00:02:55.000 There was a Republican congressperson who decided to resign, and that's why you had this special election happening in Ohio's 12th District.

00:03:02.000 The Democrat in the county was the Franklin County recorder named Danny O'Connor, and the Republicans chose a 50-something veteran of state politics, a guy named Troy Balderson.

00:03:11.000 He barely pulled out the election.

00:03:12.000 This thing was narrow as all get-out.

00:03:14.000 It should have been a Republican district plus 14. 1.00

00:03:17.000 It is 14 percentage points more Republican-leaning than the nation as a whole.

00:03:20.000 There's something like 114 Republican seats that are less Republican than this particular district is.

00:03:26.000 None of this looks good for Republicans, even though Troy Balderson picks up the seat and wins the seat.

00:03:31.000 They're going to have to do this again in like three months because the special election is only to fill out the term that's currently happening.

00:03:38.000 The political geography in this district is really interesting, because there's a lot of suburban districts, and those suburban districts, Balderson dramatically underperformed.

00:03:46.000 He overperformed, actually, in districts... Let me reverse that.

00:03:51.000 He overperformed in some of the suburban districts, specifically because John Kasich came out and endorsed him.

00:03:56.000 John Kasich is the governor of Ohio.

00:03:58.000 I am not a John Kasich fan, as most people are aware, but

00:04:02.000 He did not win this seat, Troy Balderson, because President Trump endorsed him.

00:04:05.000 He won this seat because John Kasich endorsed him.

00:04:07.000 In the last days of the seat, the statistics are pretty clear about this.

00:04:11.000 Nonetheless, President Trump tweeted out,

00:04:27.000 The possibility of a giant red wave is extraordinarily slight.

00:04:30.000 It is very, very unlikely that there is going to be a red wave come November.

00:04:34.000 It could happen, theoretically.

00:04:36.000 But there were a lot of indicators that were not particularly good for Republicans across the country last night.

00:04:42.000 In the third district of Washington, which is a likely Republican district, Democrat vote totals is in a primary.

00:04:47.000 Outpaced Republicans by 50.3% to 49.7%.

00:04:49.000 That is a contest that is going to feature the GOP representative Jamie Herrera-Boetler and Democrat Carolyn Long in November.

00:04:58.000 In the fifth district, which is run between Representative Kathy McMorris-Rogers, who's the fourth-ranking Republican woman

00:05:04.000 In the House of Representatives and a Democrat named Lisa Brown, the vote totals showed that Republicans only led by 50.5% to 47.1%. 0.63

00:05:12.000 That is not a good vote total for Republicans in that particular district.

00:05:16.000 And again, in Ohio, that's not a result that should be, I think, encouraging to a lot of Republicans.

00:05:24.000 People are saying, well, yeah, the Republicans retained the seat.

00:05:26.000 This is a R plus 10 seat.

00:05:29.000 They retained it by basically

00:05:31.000 2,000 votes, less than 2,000 votes.

00:05:33.000 Balderson won 50.2% of the vote to Danny O'Connor's 49.6% of the vote.

00:05:38.000 And the Green Party picked up 1,100 votes.

00:05:41.000 So this is, this is not, it's not encouraging for Republicans.

00:05:46.000 It is not.

00:05:46.000 And anybody who is telling you differently is whistling past the graveyard and trying to suggest to you something that is simply not true.

00:05:52.000 You have to look reality in the face.

00:05:53.000 You have to look the statistics in the face.

00:05:55.000 It is also worth noting that the polls in this district were quite good.

00:05:57.000 There was a lot of talk about the failures of state polling in 2016.

00:06:01.000 There were failures of state polling in 2016, particularly in a lot of states where there had only been one poll every couple of months.

00:06:07.000 But the polling in this district was spot on.

00:06:09.000 It basically showed a dead heat.

00:06:10.000 The race was indeed a dead heat.

00:06:12.000 So the polls were correct.

00:06:14.000 CNN's Sean King, he says that this was a big deal last night, that this was too close to call.

00:06:18.000 He's correct about this.

00:06:19.000 Republicans are taking solace in the fact that this district ended up going for the Republican.

00:06:24.000 But it is true that this district never really should have been on the table in the first place.

00:06:28.000 During the Trump presidency, the close-in suburbs in here have turned against this president.

00:06:34.000 That's why Alabama has a Democratic senator. 1.00

00:06:36.000 That's why Democrats did so well in Virginia.

00:06:37.000 I could go on and on and on, including Pennsylvania 18 and Conor Lamb.

00:06:40.000 So this district is ruby red Republican.

00:06:45.000 The fact that it is so close is a big deal.

00:06:48.000 And that is 100% true.

00:06:50.000 What John King is saying there is right.

00:06:51.000 And it's why Republicans ought to be careful with what they do in the upcoming months.

00:06:55.000 There's this sense on the Republican side that President Trump is untouchable, that the Republicans are untouchable.

00:07:00.000 The data just do not bear this out.

00:07:02.000 Listen, I know I'm not telling a lot of folks what they want to hear.

00:07:04.000 But the reality is that this is a district that went for Donald Trump by nearly 10 points, right?

00:07:09.000 It went 51.8% to Donald Trump, I believe, this district.

00:07:14.000 Actually, the state of Ohio total went 51.6% to Donald Trump.

00:07:18.000 The Ohio 12th district went to Trump.

00:07:21.000 This is not a seat that should have been competitive.

00:07:37.000 And there's a lot of money that was poured into this district in support of Balderson.

00:07:40.000 The Republicans did outspend the Democrats, and then they barely won the seat.

00:07:43.000 Again, if you look at these district numbers, they don't look good.

00:07:47.000 If even half of the 68 Republicans who represent a district less friendly than Ohio's 12th lose this November, Democrats retake the House with 11 seats to spare.

00:07:55.000 If only one in three lose, Democrats stand at a net gain of 22 seats.

00:08:00.000 None of this is particularly encouraging for Republicans.

00:08:03.000 So when President Trump says that this is just evidence that Republicans are on the upswing and everything is hunky-dory, that

00:08:10.000 The evidence is just not there for that.

00:08:11.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats continue, the radical wing of the Democratic Party continues to gain in its ascendancy, and this is part of the problem with the Democrats, and this is why they could actually blow this.

00:08:20.000 So, the Democrats have what you might term reverse Tea Party problems.

00:08:24.000 There was a lot of talk in 2008, 2010, 2012 about Republicans nominating unpalatable candidates because they were the most anti-establishment candidates.

00:08:32.000 The latest example of that was Roy Moore in Alabama.

00:08:35.000 But you remember, we nominated Christine O'Donnell in Delaware instead of Mike Castle, and she ended up losing that Senate seat.

00:08:41.000 And there were Republicans in Nevada.

00:08:43.000 They ran a candidate in 2010, I believe, who was unpalatable, and she ended up losing the seat.

00:08:50.000 This is the sort of thing that can happen when the base of the party starts thinking less pragmatically and more passionately.

00:08:57.000 You're seeing the Democrats sort of do the same thing.

00:08:59.000 The reality is that in this Ohio 12th District, the Democratic candidate was a longtime Democratic politician with establishment ties, and they did better in that district.

00:09:06.000 The same thing is true in Pennsylvania.

00:09:08.000 But the Democratic base is embracing radicalism full scale.

00:09:11.000 Indicated by the amount of conspiratorial nonsense pressed by some of their more radical members.

00:09:17.000 Alyssa Milano, the actress, she tweeted this out last night.

00:09:20.000 She tweeted out, Why else would anyone cast a protest vote in Ohio when there's so much at stake?

00:09:32.000 If you actually think that the Democrat in Ohio 12 lost because of the Russians, let me suggest that you have now been completely taken over by Trump derangement syndrome.

00:09:41.000 So the Democrats are having to fight an internal battle between electing candidates who can actually win general election seats and electing candidates who are most likely to vent their spleen and their ire at the world.

00:09:53.000 And I'm not sure that's going to end well for them in 2020, because in primaries, in presidential primaries, what 2016 shows is that passion actually matters.

00:10:01.000 What 2016 demonstrated is that when you've got an angry base, when you've got an enraged base, that base can make serious trouble for you.

00:10:08.000 You saw with Bernie Sanders in the Democratic Party and Donald Trump in the Republican Party.

00:10:12.000 It seems likely to me that the Democrats in 2020 do not elect somebody to run on their ballot who is going to be a moderate voice of reason.

00:10:21.000 It seems more likely to me that they elect somebody along the lines of a Bernie Sanders or an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, which is why most of the major 2020 candidates showed up at Netroots, this radical convention for the Democrats, over the last week and a half.

00:10:33.000 All the names that have been mentioned are wildly out of the mainstream.

00:10:36.000 Elizabeth Warren is out of the mainstream.

00:10:38.000 Cory Booker is out of the mainstream.

00:10:39.000 Kamala Harris is out of the mainstream.

00:10:42.000 Certainly, Alexander Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders are out of the mainstream, but those are the people that Democrats seem like they want to push.

00:10:49.000 So if they are practical, then they will go and they will find moderates to run in a lot of these districts and in the presidential seat in 2020.

00:10:56.000 But if not, then they are going to end up, I think, undercutting their own momentum here, which is what Republicans are counting on.

00:11:03.000 Basically, Republicans are counting on President Trump to troll Democrats into insanity and force them to run candidates who are wildly

00:11:11.000 Wildly radical, and the American people cannot stand.

00:11:14.000 That is the best hope that the Republicans have here, because the Republicans are doing a piss-poor job of actually representing their victories in these particular election cycles.

00:11:24.000 It is not good stuff.

00:11:25.000 And in just a second, I want to talk about the future of the Democratic Party and this turn toward radicalism.

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00:12:43.000 OK, so

00:12:44.000 The best hope for the Republicans, considering this wave of Democratic turnout, which really is pushed by the president's unpopularity.

00:12:51.000 I understand among Republicans, President Trump is very popular.

00:12:55.000 President Trump also has a bad habit of pissing off the left to the point that they actually want to go to the polls.

00:13:00.000 And when you're the president, your job is to enervate the other side.

00:13:03.000 Your job is to take the wind out of their sails.

00:13:05.000 President Trump is constantly blowing wind into the sails of the left by making statements on a routine basis that just get them jazzed up to throw fellow Republicans out of office.

00:13:14.000 As I say, I'm not sure that that has a major impact on Trump's re-election prospects, but I do think it has a serious impact on these congressional races.

00:13:22.000 The corollary of that is that Democrats, because they are so jazzed up, could move radically to the left.

00:13:26.000 And that means that their future is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:13:30.000 Now, yesterday I said that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is not the brightest bulb in the basket. 0.86

00:13:34.000 And I stand by that statement because she is not, in fact, the brightest bulb in the basket. 0.98

00:13:38.000 She was on Pod Save America yesterday and she made a series of ridiculous, silly statements. 0.92

00:13:44.000 She, again, is considered the future of the Democratic Party because she's an intersectional candidate. 1.00

00:13:49.000 She's a person of great intersectional capacity.

00:13:53.000 She's a woman and she's Latina. 1.00

00:13:55.000 And that means that she has valuable things to say, even if she is just saying

00:14:00.000 Random stuff all the time that doesn't make any sense.

00:14:02.000 By the way, I've received a lot of emails.

00:14:03.000 I would pay money to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's campaign to debate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:14:20.000 I would pay her money to come on the Sunday special.

00:14:23.000 I would give money to her campaign if it meant that she would actually come on the Sunday special and answer some serious questions from somebody on the other side of the aisle. 0.82

00:14:30.000 But there's a reason that she's only existing in the safe space of Pod Save America, where they're just going to ask her questions like, Alexandra, where do you get that lipstick?

00:14:38.000 Alexandra, how do you do your hair in the mornings?

00:14:41.000 Alexandra, can you talk to us about how Republicans are mean and cruel?

00:14:45.000 It's really funny.

00:14:46.000 This morning, she tweeted out, because there's a lot of blowback,

00:14:49.000 After her various interviews, she tweeted out a bunch of things about how the reason people are coming after her is because they're trying to distract from this burgeoning Republican scandal.

00:15:01.000 There's a Republican representative who's now been arrested for some sort of bank fraud.

00:15:05.000 He's a big early backer of President Trump's.

00:15:08.000 And she says, the reason people are coming after me is specifically because they're trying to distract.

00:15:12.000 She says, whenever the right is being particularly feisty towards me, the first thing I do is check

00:15:17.000 Well, no.

00:15:22.000 The reason we focus on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is because the media have fallen in love with the lady who won 17,000 votes in a Democratic primary in New York, and we're all supposed to believe that she's the wave of the future.

00:15:37.000 That's why we're paying attention. 0.99

00:15:38.000 Also, because it's a lot of fun to pay attention to the dumb stuff she says, because if this is the future of the Democratic Party, the future is stupid. 1.00

00:15:45.000 The future is just dumb. 1.00

00:15:46.000 So we're going to go through her comments in just one second. 0.98

00:15:49.000 Then we'll get to all of the controversy surrounding this Republican candidate, this Republican officeholder, Chris Collins.

00:15:55.000 So here's what she had to say to Pod Save America.

00:15:57.000 She began by talking about what America is not anymore.

00:16:01.000 Now, the Democratic Party, in order to win in 2020 and overall, is going to have to appeal to audiences they may not like.

00:16:08.000 The Democratic Party has made the argument that America is moving in a different demographic direction.

00:16:12.000 It's moving away from white families. 1.00

00:16:14.000 It is moving away from families altogether.

00:16:16.000 If you have to pick the person who you are appealing to, if you have one person who sort of sums up the base of your party,

00:16:23.000 The Democrats would say that person is probably a minority woman who's either a single mom or who doesn't have kids and has a career. 1.00

00:16:30.000 That is the person the Democratic Party is looking to appeal to.

00:16:33.000 Whenever you make a TV show in Hollywood, you have to think, who is the member of the audience who is most indicative of the base for this particular show?

00:16:39.000 I think that politicians do the same thing.

00:16:41.000 For President Trump, it was clearly blue-collar white males.

00:16:44.000 That may not work out the way that he wants in 2020.

00:16:46.000 For Democrats, however, it seems to be that it is minority females who, this is Hillary Clinton's entire base, right? 0.99

00:16:52.000 Minority females who either are single moms or who don't have kids and have a career.

00:16:57.000 Those are the people she is most attempting to appeal to.

00:16:59.000 And then you sort of backtrack to the more mainstream audiences, but those are the people you're trying to get out in massive numbers.

00:17:04.000 Now, the people that both sides seem to be ignoring are white women in the suburbs who vote an extraordinarily high rate, who are in fact mothers,

00:17:11.000 Who do care about safety and economic prosperity.

00:17:14.000 George W. Bush in 2004 won because that was his target audience.

00:17:17.000 His target audience was not white blue collar males in 2004.

00:17:19.000 His target audience were the so-called security moms. 1.00

00:17:23.000 Those were the people that Bush went after in 2004.

00:17:25.000 Both parties seem to have neglected that.

00:17:26.000 Obama...

00:17:27.000 Didn't neglect it in 2008.

00:17:28.000 He did neglect it in 2012.

00:17:30.000 In 2016, both parties neglected that.

00:17:32.000 I'm really bewildered as to why both parties are neglecting mothers.

00:17:37.000 Mothers who are married, who actually take care of their kids and or have a job. 0.96

00:17:41.000 Why is that a group of people who you're trying to ignore?

00:17:43.000 That group of people, mothers who stay home, has actually increased in the American demographic dramatically over the past 10 years.

00:17:50.000 In the last census, that number, stay-at-home moms, rose by 13%.

00:17:54.000 13% more women are opting to stay out of the workforce and take care of their kids at home. 1.00

00:17:58.000 And that is still a huge burgeoning percentage of the population.

00:18:02.000 I don't understand why both parties are ignoring it, but particularly the Democrats.

00:18:05.000 You would think that would be the place they'd go, right?

00:18:07.000 Donald Trump is very off-putting to college-educated women.

00:18:10.000 He's very off-putting to suburban moms. 0.98

00:18:12.000 Why would they not be targeting those folks?

00:18:14.000 But they send out people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 29-year-old former bartender who is single, has no kids, and talks in disparaging terms about soccer moms. 1.00

00:18:24.000 She sounds a lot like Hillary Clinton back in 1992, talking about how she's not a timely Ynet woman.

00:18:29.000 She could have stayed home and baked cookies and had tea parties, but she decided to pursue her career.

00:18:32.000 That's what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez sounds like right here when she is talking about the supposed lack in the middle class. 1.00

00:18:38.000 Here's what she had to say.

00:18:40.000 That's not America anymore.

00:18:41.000 First of all, like, um, I don't know, like, um, yeah, like, um, soccer moms with like two vans and a Furby and like, 0.94

00:19:02.000 This woman is clearly the greatest intellect the Democratic Party has seen since probably Ted Sorensen.

00:19:10.000 Maybe since JFK.

00:19:14.000 Clearly, this is a person of great intellectual firepowder.

00:19:18.000 The reality is, again, that according to the census, 10.6 million children under 15 in two-parent homes were being raised by stay-at-home moms. 0.98

00:19:26.000 And it's not that these moms don't exist anymore, it's that they're driving SUVs rather than minivans, which brings us to the second stupid point Ocasio-Cortez made.

00:19:35.000 She was asked specifically about the breakdown in economics in the United States, what Democrats are missing, and she talked about the upper middle class, this is clip 11. 0.85

00:19:44.000 She talked about the upper middle class, which she says does not exist anymore.

00:19:47.000 They were really kind of connected most to an electorate when they were fighting for these seats, when they got these seats, when they're campaigning most, when we had more of an American middle class.

00:19:58.000 And so I think that politically, this like upper middle class.

00:20:04.000 Okay, she doesn't even know what the hell she is talking about.

00:20:10.000 Not only does the upper middle class exist, it is the fastest growing segment of the American population and has been for 30 years.

00:20:16.000 So she's just making things up right now.

00:20:18.000 Between 1979 and 2014, the upper middle class in the United States increased by 16.4%.

00:20:24.000 As opposed to the poor in the United States, that number actually decreased by 5%.

00:20:28.000 The upper middle class constituted about 12% of the population in 1979.

00:20:31.000 It was close to 30% as of 2014.

00:20:34.000 So it's a massive, massive increase in the upper middle class.

00:20:37.000 Stephen Rose of the Nonpartisan Urban Institute says, quote,

00:20:49.000 In 1980, 7% of Americans lived in affluent neighborhoods.

00:20:52.000 By 2012, that number was 16%.

00:20:54.000 The Pew Research Center found that 203 metropolitan areas have seen their middle class shrink, but in 172 of those cities, the shrinkage was in part due to the growth in wealthier families.

00:21:04.000 So as usual, she is wrong.

00:21:06.000 Shock of shocks, it turns out the Democratic Socialist doesn't know what the hell she's talking about. 1.00

00:21:10.000 But this is the face of the Democratic Party, and the hurt didn't stop there.

00:21:14.000 The failures didn't stop there.

00:21:15.000 I'm gonna have to show you this clip, or play for you this clip.

00:21:18.000 In which she explains how she's going to pay for things, because it really is astonishing.

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00:22:37.000 Alexander Ocasio-Cortez.

00:22:38.000 The reason Republicans are talking about her is because the Democrats have propped her up as the supposed next wave of brainiacs inside the Democratic Party. 1.00

00:22:46.000 And not only that, because it is good for us to talk about her, because I hope that she's the face of the Democratic Party.

00:22:51.000 I hope that their new face is the Bernie Sanders, Alexander Ocasio-Cortez wing.

00:22:55.000 The worst thing that could happen for Republicans is for them to run a candidate like Joe Biden.

00:23:00.000 The worst thing that could happen for Republicans is for them to run somebody who can purport to be moderate,

00:23:05.000 Just long enough to become president of the United States or become senator or congressperson.

00:23:10.000 I'm hoping the Democrats make a big boo-boo here and they are so blasted out of their mind by Trump's presidency that they move to make Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez their darling.

00:23:18.000 Okay, so she was asked yesterday again on Pod Save America, a podcast run by the Obama bros, right?

00:23:24.000 I mean, it's a bunch of Obama people who are running that podcast.

00:23:28.000 And they love her because secretly she represents their id. 1.00

00:23:31.000 And she says all the dumb things they wish they could say, but then their super ego kicks in and they say, perhaps I should not say this out loud because it's a stupid thing. 0.99

00:23:39.000 She doesn't have any brain to mouth filter when it comes to this stuff. 0.99

00:23:41.000 So she was asked specifically about how she was going to pay for all of her plans.

00:23:45.000 It did not go well.

00:23:47.000 You know, they say, how are you going to pay for it?

00:23:49.000 As though they haven't used these same ways to pay for unlimited wars, to pay for trillion dollar tax cuts and tax cut extensions.

00:23:58.000 They use these mechanisms to pay for these things all the time.

00:24:03.000 They only want to know.

00:24:04.000 It just seems like their pockets are only empty when we're talking about education and investing in human capital in the United States, education, health care, housing.

00:24:12.000 Okay, so I do love the fact, and the original question here was, how do you pay for things?

00:24:15.000 And her answer is, nobody pays for things. 0.57

00:24:35.000 Thank you, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, for that brilliant exposition on the debt and deficit in the United States.

00:24:41.000 By the way, when she says things like, the only thing we invest in is tax cuts and wars.

00:24:45.000 That's all we invest in.

00:24:46.000 This year, we will spend $4.3 trillion.

00:24:49.000 The federal government will spend $4.3 trillion this year.

00:24:53.000 What percentage of that goes to the military?

00:24:56.000 Any guesses?

00:24:56.000 Any guesses in the room?

00:24:57.000 Any guesses?

00:24:58.000 What percentage of that $4.3 trillion goes to the American military establishment, including the vets?

00:25:04.000 How much of that?

00:25:05.000 Senya, you got a guess?

00:25:06.000 What percent?

00:25:09.000 Okay, Senya, it says 60 goes to the military.

00:25:11.000 Jess, any guesses on what percentage of the American federal budget goes to the military?

00:25:16.000 Jess?

00:25:18.000 30.

00:25:18.000 Okay.

00:25:18.000 The answer is 16% of the federal budget goes to the American military.

00:25:22.000 The remainder goes to all of these supposed priorities that we are supposedly ignoring according to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:25:28.000 62% of the entire federal budget goes to mandatory spending under Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

00:25:34.000 The vast majority goes to social welfare programs that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says we are spending too little money on.

00:25:40.000 The fact is, the amount of money that we spend per capita in the United States on social welfare programs is actually almost on par with that of the European countries and actually surpasses some of the European countries.

00:25:50.000 And we are spending a buttload of money on all these priorities that she says we are not spending money on.

00:25:55.000 It's just a lie that we're spending it all on quote-unquote tax cuts.

00:25:58.000 First of all, that's not an expenditure.

00:25:59.000 That's me keeping my own money.

00:26:00.000 And then when she says we're not investing in the middle class, understand that when she says that we're supposed to invest in the middle class, what she means is we're supposed to tax the living hell

00:26:07.000 Out of everyone who makes more than 30 grand in the United States.

00:26:10.000 And then we'll pass it back to the people at the lower end of the income spectrum for investment in garbage government programs that do not result in higher productivity, higher wages or higher employment. 0.98

00:26:21.000 That is her actual plan.

00:26:23.000 I would love, I mean, when people say, would you debate her?

00:26:25.000 I would love to debate her because I have one question for her.

00:26:28.000 Name an industry you would not nationalize.

00:26:31.000 Which ones should the government not run and why?

00:26:34.000 Can she name any of them?

00:26:35.000 I have serious doubts.

00:26:36.000 She says she wants to abolish the profit motive.

00:26:38.000 Okay, well then she's going to have to explain how she abolishes the profit motive without abolishing private industry. 1.00

00:26:45.000 Or would she just abolish it? 0.97

00:26:46.000 Or why does the Democratic Party think this is a good idea?

00:26:48.000 By the way, when she says that we are, you know, we haven't worried about spending in the past, yes, that's a problem.

00:26:53.000 I'm old enough to remember when Republicans thought it was a problem.

00:26:56.000 I guess now we don't worry about that so much because President Trump's president, so we're supposed to ignore the fact there's a $21 trillion national debt. 0.97

00:27:03.000 But that sucker is going to come due.

00:27:04.000 Social Security will be bankrupt in the next decade. 0.97

00:27:06.000 Medicare will be bankrupt a decade after that.

00:27:09.000 These programs are not going to be around.

00:27:11.000 Or if they are around, they're going to require massive cuts or massive taxes.

00:27:16.000 And even so, what I love most, I think, what I love most is that she says that, you know, we've never had to worry about spending this sort of money before.

00:27:26.000 The kind of money that she's proposing spending is so insane that it makes what we have spent before absolutely obsolete.

00:27:32.000 According to the Mercatus Center, a libertarian-leaning center at George Mason University, they estimated that Bernie Sanders' Medicare for All plan, we talked about this last week, would cost the government $32 trillion over the next decade.

00:27:44.000 But we can actually do a budget exercise using nonpartisan and even left-leaning groups.

00:27:50.000 Vox.com, you know, a left-wing source, they talk about what exactly we would have to pay for single-payer health care, a jobs guarantee, and free college.

00:27:58.000 What exactly would it cost?

00:28:00.000 Well, it turns out that it would cost, according to the Tax Policy Center, according to the Tax Policy Center, it would cost legitimately trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars.

00:28:11.000 $42.5 trillion in new proposals over the next decade, on top of the $12.4 trillion baseline deficit.

00:28:18.000 To put this in perspective, according to Vox.com, Washington is currently projected to collect $44 trillion in taxes, in revenues, that's what they call it, over the next decade.

00:28:27.000 Okay, the Republican tax cut, the fiscal Armageddon, will cost less than $2 trillion over the next decade.

00:28:33.000 So we're gonna spend $44 trillion, but Alexander Ocasio-Cortez says the real problem is those tax cuts that quote-unquote cost $2 trillion.

00:28:40.000 What is the 30-year projected tab for these programs that they're talking about?

00:28:44.000 The 30-year projected tab is, I kid you not, $218 trillion.

00:28:51.000 On top of an $84 trillion baseline deficit driven by Social Security, Medicare, and the resulting internet costs.

00:28:57.000 Federal spending, which is typically between 18% and 22% of GDP in the United States, would soar past 40% of GDP on its way to 50% of GDP within three decades.

00:29:08.000 And she says, oh, well, we've never had to worry about spending before.

00:29:11.000 Well, it turns out if you quadruple the spending, you might have to worry about it a little bit more.

00:29:14.000 You got a $10,000 credit card debt, and then you decide to rack up another $40,000 of credit card debt.

00:29:20.000 Maybe you ought to think about whether the original debt was a good idea, but quadrupling it is an even better idea.

00:29:25.000 Okay, we'd be at 60% of GDP by that point.

00:29:29.000 Okay, within three decades, state and local government spending would push the total cost of government, according to Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez, all the way to 60% of GDP.

00:29:38.000 60% of every buck made in the United States would be spent by the federal government, exceeding the current spending level of every single European country.

00:29:47.000 And this is their big idea?

00:29:48.000 This is what they think is going to win them elections?

00:29:51.000 Good luck.

00:29:52.000 Good luck.

00:29:54.000 And again, this is Vox.com. 0.99

00:29:55.000 I'm going to talk a little bit more about the radicalism of the Democrats, which is being obscured by the fact that we have to talk about the constant stream of scandals and stupid inside the Republican Party. 0.93

00:30:05.000 If we talked about this every day, it would be very difficult for Democrats to win. 0.97

00:30:07.000 We don't talk about it any day except on this show because we're too distracted with all the rest of the nonsense.

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00:32:40.000 To conclude our analysis of the stupidity of the program now being pressed by Democrats as the future, this Democratic Socialist program, according to Vox.com, again, Vox.com, a wild left-wing source, they say that single payers does not just involve a straightforward shift from private payment to taxes.

00:32:54.000 So one of the great lies that's being told is, well, if we spend $32 trillion over the next 10 years, we'll save money on health care. 0.92

00:33:00.000 Ha ha ha ha ha.

00:33:02.000 Okay, why?

00:33:03.000 Because we'll take all of our private spending and it'll just be government spending.

00:33:05.000 We'll just tax you and we'll spend it. 1.00

00:33:07.000 That's not how it works, you idiots. 1.00

00:33:09.000 You idiots. 1.00

00:33:09.000 People buy supplemental insurance even if they are on Medicare because Medicare coverage kind of sucks. 1.00

00:33:14.000 Okay, here's the dirty truth about Medicare.

00:33:16.000 The health outcomes for people who have Medicare is not dramatically better than the health outcomes for people who do not have insurance at all.

00:33:24.000 Okay, seriously.

00:33:24.000 There have been studies that have been done on this.

00:33:27.000 And what they suggest is that Medicare health outcomes are not always better than not having Medicare.

00:33:32.000 Why?

00:33:32.000 Because doctors don't accept Medicare in many cases.

00:33:34.000 Sometimes emergency medicine is better.

00:33:35.000 Sometimes paying cash out of pocket is better.

00:33:38.000 People buy supplemental insurance because Medicare does not do the job.

00:33:41.000 It makes people feel comfortable, but it is not always the best system.

00:33:45.000 Not only that, Medicare is based on a certain level of collective bargaining with the doctors.

00:33:50.000 If you had everybody ensconced in the single-payer system, the demand for services goes up, Medicare would have to collectively bargain differently, and you'd actually have an increase in prices or a shortage of doctors or both.

00:34:02.000 You'd have to basically, you always have a choice in these nationalized healthcare systems.

00:34:05.000 You either have to abolish the private sector or you have to allow the private sector to upcharge.

00:34:10.000 And this was a serious battle in Canada.

00:34:12.000 There was an attempt to actually abolish private practice in Canada because there were too many people who were opting out of the system and paying private doctors and they had a shortage of doctors who they wanted to leverage into the public system.

00:34:22.000 Here's what Vox says.

00:34:40.000 Second, single-payer proponents claim that $32 trillion in single-payer costs should be considered differently from other expenditures since money spent privately on health insurance and other health care costs would now be spent by the government.

00:34:50.000 So you just shift the money from the private to the public sector.

00:34:52.000 This is false.

00:34:53.000 The $4 trillion saved by state and local governments on programs like Medicare and CHIP over 10 years and the $22 trillion saved by families and businesses on premiums and out-of-pocket expenses cannot be converted into a $26 trillion single-payer tax without serious economic and redistributive side effects.

00:35:09.000 Designing a politically acceptable $26 trillion tax hike is nearly impossible.

00:35:14.000 Medicaid recipients who currently pay no health insurance premiums would not receive any insurance premium windfall to help for their steep new taxes.

00:35:22.000 So actually, this is completely unrealistic, even according to folks on the left. 0.60

00:35:25.000 So it's going to cost a damn fortune. 0.73

00:35:28.000 And yet Republicans aren't talking about this stuff. 0.96

00:35:30.000 What are we talking about today?

00:35:31.000 Well, we're talking about scandals involving Chris Collins.

00:35:34.000 Federal prosecutors in New York on Wednesday charged New York Republican Representative Chris Collins, his son, and another man with 13 counts of securities fraud.

00:35:41.000 It's perfect timing.

00:35:42.000 I remember back in 2006, Republicans looked like they might do okay in the midterms, and then they just got blown out because of the Mark Foley scandal, a situation in which a gay Republican congressman was hitting on the interns, basically.

00:35:54.000 The congressional pages.

00:35:55.000 That worked out horribly for Republicans.

00:35:56.000 They lost, what, 60 seats in 2006?

00:35:59.000 So, you could see something similar happen.

00:36:01.000 If Republicans are perceived as corrupt, it depresses the turnout.

00:36:13.000 He actually used insider trading to trade on the stock of a pharmaceutical company, Innate Immunotherapeutics Limited, of which Collins is a board member, to avoid more than $768,000 in losses that would have incurred if they had traded the stock after certain drug trial results became public.

00:36:28.000 So this guy could easily go to jail.

00:36:30.000 Or we're talking about President Trump's latest tweets about Robert Mueller.

00:36:33.000 Or we're talking about President Trump's latest tweets about LeBron James.

00:36:36.000 Imagine if Republicans actually talked incessantly about the fact that Democrats have crazy spending plans, want to nationalize nearly everything, and are propping up people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Keith Ellison as the leaders of the party.

00:36:48.000 Imagine if that were the program, as opposed to these constant day-to-day battles over the fake news.

00:36:54.000 Imagine if Democrats were depressed enough that they weren't able to actually go out to vote because it turns out that their own candidates are radical nutjobs.

00:37:02.000 Instead, we have to discuss the headline of the day.

00:37:05.000 And this is the real problem.

00:37:06.000 It's a serious problem that our lodestar in politics, the black hole around which all of politics revolves, are these high-level Twitter battles between the President of the United States and whomever is in his grill that day.

00:37:19.000 It's just not worthwhile.

00:37:21.000 It is not worthwhile.

00:37:22.000 Hitting Democrats hard is easy to do and fun.

00:37:25.000 It can be enjoyable as well as worthwhile. 0.99

00:37:28.000 But you actually have to hit them on their agenda and the foolish things they are embracing and saying.

00:37:32.000 You really think that Cory Booker is a tough target? 0.71

00:37:34.000 You really think Alexander Ocasio-Cortez is a tough target?

00:37:37.000 I'll tell you, Robert Mueller is a lot tougher target than any of those folks.

00:37:40.000 And we're spending all of our effort right now on defending the myriad sillinesses that are emanating from Republicans who feel the necessity to assuage President Trump's ego.

00:37:49.000 If President Trump wants a Republican Congress, how about this?

00:37:52.000 Less on Trump, more on Democrats.

00:37:53.000 2016 went well for Republicans because it was more of a referendum on Hillary Clinton than it was on Donald Trump.

00:37:59.000 It was not a giant upswing for Donald Trump.

00:38:01.000 It was people didn't like Hillary Clinton and so Democrats didn't show up to vote for her. 1.00

00:38:05.000 Make every election a referendum on Democrats.

00:38:08.000 That's how you win elections.

00:38:10.000 We won the 2004 election, Republicans, because it was a referendum on John Kerry, not a referendum on George W. Bush.

00:38:16.000 It was a referendum on John Kerry's pusillanimous behavior over the course of his career.

00:38:20.000 Republicans won in 2010, and 2012, and 2014 in Congress, because it was a referendum on Barack Obama.

00:38:27.000 Whomever an election becomes a referendum on, loses.

00:38:31.000 Right now, all these elections are a referendum on Trump.

00:38:32.000 That's not going to be good for the Republican Party.

00:38:34.000 It just isn't.

00:38:36.000 Okay.

00:38:36.000 In just a second, I want to talk in a little bit about the Alex Jones fallout.

00:38:42.000 So Democrats continue to claim, people on the left continue to claim, that the ban on Alex Jones is actually a good thing, that Twitter mobbing and social media mobbing is actually a positive, useful thing.

00:38:54.000 You know, Twitter itself did something I thought was actually good yesterday.

00:38:58.000 They came out.

00:38:58.000 They're the only social media company that did not ban all of Alex Jones's content.

00:39:02.000 All the other ones basically coordinated to take down Jones. 0.99

00:39:04.000 Now, as I've said, I think that Alex Jones is a giant pile of human excrement. 0.99

00:39:09.000 I think he's a bad guy who says bad things. 1.00

00:39:11.000 He says conspiratorial, idiotic things that are nasty and evil. 1.00

00:39:16.000 And he says terrible things about families of shootings. 1.00

00:39:21.000 He's a garbage heap. 0.97

00:39:23.000 If you're going to ban him from social services, from social media, you actually have to come up with a rationale to ban him, and it can't just be we don't like what he says. 0.98

00:39:29.000 So Jack Dorsey, who's the head of Twitter, he tweeted this out yesterday.

00:39:32.000 He's getting all sorts of flack for it, but he's correct. 1.00

00:39:34.000 He says,

00:39:47.000 All of this is perfectly appropriate.

00:39:48.000 Jack has this right.

00:39:49.000 This is the only time you may hear me say this.

00:39:50.000 I think Jack Dorsey has this exactly right.

00:39:52.000 Twitter has it exactly right.

00:40:09.000 Right now, we in the country are worried so deeply about incivility that there are a lot of us who just want to ban the opposing view in order so that we can get to civility.

00:40:16.000 The truth is that that actually is a form of incivility.

00:40:19.000 There are two poles when it comes to civility, and both of them are bad.

00:40:23.000 One is, ban everything I don't like for the sake of civility, and the other is,

00:40:27.000 Yell at each other for the sake of social media mobbing for the sake of civility.

00:40:32.000 And then on the other side, you have shut down all of the all the things I don't like for the sake of civility.

00:40:38.000 Right.

00:40:38.000 So we'll yell at each other for the sake of civility because you're not civil enough.

00:40:40.000 So I'll yell at you for the sake of civility.

00:40:42.000 And then there is we want to ban you for the sake of civility. 0.98

00:40:45.000 The answer is that we should be somewhere in between, which is rational discussion in which we can dismiss fools like Alex Jones as part of the conversation, right? 0.99

00:40:53.000 He can be part of the conversation long enough for us to dismiss the stupidities that he spouts on a daily basis. 0.96

00:40:59.000 But that involves actually not banning people. 0.94

00:41:01.000 And yet, the prevailing opinion on the left is that some online mobs are good. 0.94

00:41:05.000 There's a piece by Amanda Hess over at the New York Times that is just an awful stupid piece over at the New York Times, suggesting that social media mobs on the left are good, social media mobs on the right are bad. 0.96

00:41:16.000 Here's what she writes. 0.99

00:41:16.000 She says, 0.99

00:41:38.000 Online commentators noted that Gill appeared to live as what we would now call a transgendered man, not a woman cross-dressing to get ahead.

00:41:44.000 By the time Daniela Greenbaum, a conservative writer at Business Insider, defended Johansson for just doing her job, the wrath she met was so forceful that her editor scrubbed the column from the web.

00:41:53.000 Twelve days into the controversy, Johansson announced her decision to respectfully withdraw from the project.

00:41:58.000 And then this this columnist goes on to talk about Hollywood mobbings, the Mark Duplass situation we talked about a couple of weeks ago, the director who was basically mobbed into apologizing for saying that folks might want to follow me on Twitter, the mobbing of James Gunn.

00:42:10.000 And what this columnist for The New York Times says is that these mobs are not all alike, that the mob that targeted Scarlett Johansson and Daniella Greenbaum is a good mob.

00:42:19.000 The mob that targeted James Gunn is a bad mob.

00:42:22.000 How do we know which mobs are good and which ones are bad?

00:42:25.000 By the level of sincerity.

00:42:26.000 By the level of sincerity.

00:42:27.000 That's how you can tell.

00:42:29.000 Because if people are sincerely upset by a transgender man being played by Scarlett Johansson, then we know that they are a good mob. 0.98

00:42:36.000 And if they are not sincere about James Gunn, they're just going after James Gunn to go after James Gunn?

00:42:40.000 Then they are an insincere mob.

00:42:41.000 And we know that sincere mobs are better than insincere mobs.

00:42:44.000 Now, my question is, what the hell would make a sincere mob better than an insincere mob? 0.97

00:42:48.000 I'm sure there were legitimate lynch mobs that were sincere in their absolute hatred of black folks. 1.00

00:42:54.000 They were evil. 0.78

00:42:55.000 And sincerity does not confer any sort of moral privilege upon you.

00:42:59.000 Sincerity means nothing.

00:43:01.000 But really, this is just an excuse for suggesting that mobs of the left are good, and mobs of the right are really, really, really bad.

00:43:07.000 The truth is, mobs all the way around are not good.

00:43:10.000 And the mobbing of people who I find exorable, I think, is...

00:43:16.000 Simply not worthwhile.

00:43:17.000 And not only not worthwhile, it's unreasonable and it actually destroys civility. 0.99

00:43:22.000 We have idiots like Jeet here, who I guess writes for The Atlantic, tweet this out about Barry Weiss, a New York Times columnist. 0.99

00:43:26.000 She was being sent to Australia to do some writing. 1.00

00:43:29.000 She says the prospect of Barry Weiss in Australia is frankly terrifying.

00:43:33.000 Terrifying.

00:43:33.000 If you feel that that is a terrifying thing, then you are part of the problem.

00:43:36.000 And someone pays this moron to write words. 0.99

00:43:39.000 It's just, it's an incredible, incredible thing. 0.99

00:43:41.000 If you actually want a civil America where we can have conversations with each other, you're going to need to accept that there will be differing points of view and that they shouldn't be social media mobbed.

00:43:48.000 Okay, time for a couple of things that I like and then a couple of things that I hate.

00:43:52.000 So, things that I like today.

00:43:55.000 Every so often,

00:43:57.000 I'm just in a bad place.

00:43:58.000 And yesterday, for whatever reason, I was in kind of a grumpy mood.

00:44:01.000 I think it's because I've been on this diet and diets are terrible.

00:44:03.000 But that said, one of the things that put me back in a good mood was listening to some Mozart.

00:44:09.000 This is one of my favorite pieces of Mozart.

00:44:11.000 It's the Flute and Harp Concerto in C. And it's just a superlative piece of work, of course, because Mozart was one of the great geniuses in human history.

00:44:18.000 Paralleled only, I have been told, by Jay-Z.

00:44:20.000 So here is Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, the Flute and Harp Concerto in C.

00:44:54.000 So when people say I'm an elitist about music, yes.

00:44:57.000 Yes, because this is good music. 1.00

00:44:59.000 And there's a lot of very, very bad, stupid music. 1.00

00:45:02.000 This is good music, okay? 1.00

00:45:04.000 If this doesn't speak to your soul in a different way than the random pop music that you are smashing your head into your steering wheel over, then I would suggest that you think a little bit more deeply about the kind of music you listen to.

00:45:16.000 Listen, at some point I should do sort of an introduction to classical music course.

00:45:19.000 Not really based on music theory, because I'm not an expert in that, but at least introducing people to kind of user-friendly classical music.

00:45:25.000 Because most people think, oh, classical music, it goes on so long, and it's so boring.

00:45:29.000 Why can't we just have a three-bar chorus that we sing over and over for eight minutes?

00:45:33.000 Why can't we do that?

00:45:34.000 The fact is that there's a bunch of people who think Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven is a great piece of music.

00:45:40.000 It has a catchy opener.

00:45:43.000 How long is that song?

00:45:45.000 Eight minutes?

00:45:46.000 It's an eight-minute song? 0.99

00:45:48.000 Okay, shut your head.

00:45:50.000 Okay, eight minutes for Stairway to Heaven?

00:45:52.000 You could get that, or you could get the first movement of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony.

00:45:56.000 There is not a comparison.

00:45:58.000 Fine, call me an elitist, I don't care.

00:45:59.000 Okay, other things that I like today.

00:46:01.000 Jason Reilly has a great piece over at the Wall Street Journal.

00:46:03.000 Jason Reilly is a black columnist for the Wall Street Journal, which means that the left can't attack him as a racist for writing this.

00:46:08.000 He says, liberal racism is not a horse of a different color.

00:46:12.000 He says, bigotry is bigotry, whether systemic, as at Harvard, or idiosyncratic, like Sarah Zhang's Twitter feed.

00:46:18.000 As to paraphrase a well-known political figure, Ms. 1.00

00:46:20.000 Xiong could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot a white person without losing the support of liberals.

00:46:24.000 It's a safe bet she was tapped by the Times because of these racial prejudices, not to spite them.

00:46:28.000 Editorial board members are hired to help formulate and express the official position of a newspaper Ms.

00:46:33.000 Xiong is being hired to speak for the Times, and they like where she's coming from.

00:46:36.000 The Grey Lady attacks President Trump as a racist and a sexist on a near-daily basis, and columnists like Charles Blow write about little else. 0.70

00:46:43.000 So it is hypocritical for the paper to hire and defend a new editorial board member who has made no secret of her own biases? 0.96

00:46:48.000 Of course it is!

00:46:49.000 But that's considered beside the point by people who share Ms.

00:46:51.000 Zhang's worldview.

00:46:53.000 He goes on, he talks about this particular double standard.

00:46:55.000 There's a great piece also by Raihan Salam over at The Atlantic about this tendency of people on the left

00:47:02.000 Particularly white folks on the left, to try and enter into the elitist stratosphere by suggesting that racism by certain people, this sort of paternalistic racism attitude, that that's okay.

00:47:13.000 Racism by certain people is okay because they've been historically victimized.

00:47:16.000 This gains you access to the highest levels of leftist thought.

00:47:19.000 It's a great piece.

00:47:20.000 You should go check it out by Jason Reilly over at the Wall Street Journal.

00:47:23.000 Okay, time for a couple of things that I hate. 0.77

00:47:29.000 So, Jason Rantz has a piece over at Daily Wire exposing this ridiculous attack.

00:47:34.000 So, here's what he writes.

00:47:46.000 Little did she know that her sweet tweet would earn her a vicious callous attack from Seattle-based Jeopardy! 1.00

00:47:50.000 champ Ken Jennings.

00:47:51.000 So she tweeted out, And this was apparently the response from Ken Jennings.

00:48:10.000 Yes, clearly she's awful because she liked Alf.

00:48:12.000 If only she'd liked Transparent, and then they'd had a transgender person engraved onto the person's headstone, then this person would be a social justice warrior hero. 0.74

00:48:21.000 But the son happened to like Alf, and that means this is a terrible, terrible MAGA grandmother. 0.88

00:48:25.000 Terrible, terrible person.

00:48:26.000 Yeah, the terrible person, it seems to me, is the person who's ripping on a person whose kid died at the age of 24.

00:48:32.000 Whatever you choose to put on your kid's headstone at the age of 24, I really don't think it's anybody else's business, frankly.

00:48:37.000 Okay, other things that I hate.

00:48:38.000 So there's this article.

00:48:39.000 It's just astonishing.

00:48:40.000 Remember when what you did in the bedroom was your business?

00:48:43.000 Remember that?

00:48:44.000 That was like five minutes ago.

00:48:45.000 We were told that the LGBT movement should, their basic goal was to have Americans not care about what they did in the bedroom. 0.70

00:48:52.000 And I was like, okay, fine.

00:48:54.000 I'm with you.

00:48:54.000 Cool.

00:48:55.000 Enjoy.

00:48:56.000 Whatever.

00:48:56.000 Free country.

00:48:58.000 Now it turns out that the left wants to dictate who you should want to have sex with.

00:49:02.000 There's an article at a website called them.us. 0.81

00:49:07.000 Okay, I think it's a gay-friendly website or a gay advocacy website.

00:49:12.000 And here is what it writes.

00:49:13.000 Considering the discrimination trans people face on a daily basis, it comes as no surprise that trans people are overlooked when it comes to dating.

00:49:20.000 Two Canadian researchers recently asked almost a thousand cisgender folks, that's people whose sex matches their gender, right?

00:49:26.000 In other words, you're a man who thinks you're a man.

00:49:28.000 If they would date a trans person, a new study published in the Journal of Social and Personal Relationships is the first ever study to attempt to quantify the extent of trans discrimination when it comes to romantic and sexual relationships.

00:49:40.000 Okay, let me just point something out.

00:49:42.000 I thought that it was my prerogative as a free human being to decide with whom I would like to have sex.

00:49:48.000 I thought that either way, right?

00:49:50.000 There was a biological drive, right?

00:49:52.000 If you're gay, then you are biologically gay and you don't get to decide who you're attracted to. 0.55

00:49:55.000 That's just the way it works. 0.96

00:49:56.000 Or you get to choose whom you have sex with because it's a free country.

00:49:59.000 The left has now decided that it is both a biological drive, but if you don't want to have sex with the people they want you to have sex with, it's because you're discriminating.

00:50:07.000 This is where the two definitions of the word discrimination cross over and things get real weird.

00:50:11.000 So discrimination can be me discriminating between two types of drink that I want to drink or two types of people.

00:50:17.000 One of whom I want to have sex with and one of whom I don't.

00:50:18.000 I'm a straight man. 1.00

00:50:19.000 That means I like having sex with my wife. 1.00

00:50:21.000 I like having sex with women. 1.00

00:50:23.000 That is a discriminatory attitude because I'm discriminating between women and men in making that particular decision. 0.98

00:50:28.000 But that's not bad discrimination.

00:50:29.000 Bad discrimination is saying that all members of a particular group are biologically inferior or I wouldn't hire a member of a particular group or something like that.

00:50:38.000 But the left has now conflated these two things.

00:50:40.000 Any sort of decision in which you like one thing more than another, you like hamburgers more than you like tacos, if that is your thing, that is now bad discrimination according to the left.

00:50:52.000 958 participants, all but seven cisgender, ranging in age from 18 to 81, with an average age of 26, were asked to indicate which genders they would consider dating.

00:51:01.000 The options included cisgender man, cisgender woman, trans man, trans woman, or gender queer.

00:51:05.000 And participants could select as many genders as they wanted.

00:51:07.000 Only 12 participants, only 12% of all participants, selected trans woman and or trans man.

00:51:14.000 Right, because it turns out that most people would like to date a member of the sex to which they are attracted.

00:51:19.000 Why is this even remotely controversial?

00:51:21.000 Those who would consider dating a trans person didn't differ in race or ethnicity, but were somewhat older, more likely to hold a university degree, and unsurprisingly, less likely to be religious than those who would not date a trans person.

00:51:32.000 But some of the most striking differences were in regards to participants' gender and sexual orientation.

00:51:37.000 This is my favorite part.

00:51:37.000 Okay, this is the best part of the study.

00:51:39.000 Virtually all heterosexuals excluded trans folks from their dating pool.

00:51:42.000 Only 1.8% of straight women and 3.3% of straight men chose a trans person of either binary gender.

00:51:50.000 Why is this shocking?

00:51:51.000 If I'm a straight man, I don't want to have sex or be dating a biological man or a woman who believes she is a man. 0.90

00:51:59.000 Why is this remotely controversial in any way? 0.99

00:52:02.000 This is ridiculous. 1.00

00:52:03.000 Okay, and if you're a straight woman, I assume that you don't want to date a person with a vagina or date a person with a penis who believes that he is a woman. 1.00

00:52:11.000 Like, what? 0.99

00:52:17.000 Okay, and then, this is the best part, most non-heterosexuals weren't down for dating a trans person either.

00:52:23.000 Oh no, it turns out that a lot of LGBT people only want to date people of the sex to which they are attracted.

00:52:30.000 Oh no.

00:52:32.000 Only 11.5% of gay men and 29% of lesbians being trans-inclusive in their dating preferences.

00:52:38.000 Bisexual, queer, non-binary participants were most open to having a trans partner, but even among them, almost half did not select either trans man or trans woman.

00:52:46.000 Because it turns out you're attracted to certain types of people, and those people typically have to have the set of genitals that you prefer, and also believe that they are a member of the sex that has that particular set of genitals.

00:52:56.000 Why in the- But it's all controversial.

00:52:59.000 You understand?

00:52:59.000 Any discrimination is controversial.

00:53:01.000 Any decision you make is controversial. 1.00

00:53:03.000 All of this demonstrates the full-scale stupidity of the left. 1.00

00:53:06.000 I hope that they continue along this path because I promise you, human biology will not stand for this sort of political nonsense. 0.99

00:53:13.000 Okay, we'll be back here tomorrow with all of the latest updates.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - August 08, 2018

Is The Blue Wave Coming? | Ep. 598

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