The Ben Shapiro Show - August 01, 2018


Is The Second Civil War Coming? | Ep. 593


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50 minutes

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213.70653

Word Count

10,753

Sentence Count

676

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

14


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00:00:00.000 President Trump does a rally and the media are very, very upset about it.
00:00:03.000 A new poll shows Republicans don't actually mind Russian election interference.
00:00:07.000 And a federal judge tries to ban 3D gun printing.
00:00:09.000 We'll talk about all of it.
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00:01:41.000 Alrighty, so.
00:01:43.000 President Trump did another one of his patented rallies last night and it got pretty rowdy because President Trump's rallies are always rowdy.
00:01:50.000 Now what's weird to me is that the media are so deeply concerned over this.
00:01:53.000 If they were so deeply concerned over President Trump's rallies, maybe they should have stopped covering them soup to nuts when he was doing them in the middle of the election cycle, but
00:02:00.000 Trump loves these things.
00:02:01.000 He's a guy who plays to the crowd.
00:02:03.000 If you've ever seen President Trump speak in person, this is somebody who really is a performer.
00:02:08.000 I used to perform regularly, not just in terms of doing my speaking in front of an audience, but I used to actually perform.
00:02:15.000 I was a classical violinist.
00:02:16.000 I used to perform in front of audiences.
00:02:17.000 And you know when the audience is into it, when the audience isn't into it.
00:02:20.000 President Trump is really good at this.
00:02:22.000 He is a performer.
00:02:23.000 And so he knows when the audience is into it and when they're not.
00:02:25.000 And so he does these rallies.
00:02:26.000 They are very rowdy and they're very excited.
00:02:29.000 And the media went nuts yesterday.
00:02:30.000 They were very, very upset about this.
00:02:32.000 And I'm at a loss to explain quite why.
00:02:34.000 Brian Schatz, who is a senator from Nevada, he tweeted out,
00:02:48.000 It's a dark carnival over at the Trump rally.
00:02:49.000 I'd just like to point out to Brian Schatz that history did not start yesterday.
00:02:52.000 There's this weird syndrome on the left that suddenly all history began with Donald Trump.
00:02:57.000 So yesterday we talked about LeBron James saying that Trump has politicized sports, ignoring the fact that sports has been politicized for years and years and years and years, and that the politicization of our culture and our sports, that's one of the reasons why Trump has been so successful, because Trump is a counterpunch to all of that politicization.
00:03:12.000 Well, the same thing is true when it comes to the quote-unquote dark carnival of Trump rallies.
00:03:16.000 I'm old enough to remember in 2011 after Paul Wellstone, who is a senator from Minnesota, after he died in a plane crash, I'm old enough to remember when Democrats led an actual rally at Paul Wellstone's funeral.
00:03:27.000 I mean, like, this is a thing that actually happened.
00:03:30.000 Can you please let the people of this state hear your voice on his behalf to keep his legacy alive and help us win this election for Paul Wellstone?
00:03:44.000 For Paul Wellstone!
00:03:46.000 Will you stand up and keep fighting for social and economic justice?
00:03:52.000 Say yes!
00:03:54.000 That was October 2002.
00:03:55.000 That was at a funeral for Paul Wellstone.
00:03:58.000 It was a funeral memorial for Paul Wellstone.
00:04:00.000 But don't worry, only Trump has been involved in the dark carnival of rallies.
00:04:05.000 Again, that was all the way back in 2002.
00:04:06.000 There were a bunch of Republicans sitting in the audience who just went there to pay tribute at the memorial.
00:04:10.000 And I remember all these people getting up there and shouting about how Republicans were the worst thing ever at this event in memoriam for a senator who died in a plane crash.
00:04:20.000 And, of course, we saw this happen in Tucson after the Gabby Giffords shooting.
00:04:25.000 You remember that President Obama traveled down to Tucson where he did a full-on anti-gun rally, like a pep rally against guns, in which he and everybody else tore into the gun culture in the United States.
00:04:34.000 It prompted actual mainstream media discussions as to whether this was a memorial service for those who had died in the Tucson shooting or whether it, in fact, was a pep rally.
00:04:43.000 Here's, you know, folks in the mainstream media talking about it at the time.
00:04:45.000 This is back in 2011.
00:04:47.000 Chip, let me ask you, what was the White House expecting?
00:04:50.000 And when they had the speech in their hands, walked into the venue, did they know it was going to have this mix of
00:04:56.000 You know, memorial and pep rally?
00:04:59.000 I think they probably figured it out when the president walked in and there was a scream that went up like I've never heard before.
00:05:06.000 It really was extraordinary because I think, like Roger, I and Robert Gibbs said today, he too, were expecting a much more solemn occasion.
00:05:13.000 Okay, and the crowd was going nuts.
00:05:14.000 I remember this.
00:05:15.000 It was a big story at the time.
00:05:17.000 I mean, members of the mainstream media were talking about whether this was appropriate in 2011.
00:05:21.000 Don't worry, it's the dark carnival of Trumpism.
00:05:23.000 There's been no other dark carnival.
00:05:25.000 You know, when I need 600 police officers to escort me into Berkeley, that's not a dark carnival in any way.
00:05:30.000 When Antifa is breaking apart actual Trump rallies, when people are showing up and punching people in Trump hats, when Maxine Waters, an actual sitting congressperson, is encouraging people to be confronted in parking lots of gas stations, that's not anything dark.
00:05:45.000 That's just how Democrats do politics.
00:05:47.000 You know, they're cordial and they're civil.
00:05:48.000 That's just, that's how they are.
00:05:50.000 But these Republicans, they're really dark.
00:05:52.000 Occupy Wall Street.
00:05:52.000 I'm old enough to remember when people were occupying parks and rape was actually happening at occasional events of Occupy.
00:05:59.000 I'm old enough to remember at the Trump inauguration when people from Antifa were throwing gas canisters and breaking cars.
00:06:05.000 But don't worry, nothing dark has ever happened in politics up till now.
00:06:09.000 It's one of the great irritants to me is when people are just ignorant of history, not just ignorant of history, but willfully blind to stuff that happened legitimately about five minutes ago in the great timeline of American politics.
00:06:20.000 And you see this yesterday from the media as well.
00:06:23.000 So Jim Acosta was at this Trump rally yesterday, and there were a bunch of people who were mocking Jim Acosta and mocking CNN, and he was very upset about it.
00:06:42.000 And if you can't see this, there are people who are flipping off Jim Acosta, flipping off CNN, having a good time kind of booing CNN.
00:06:50.000 And Jim Acosta then tweeted out just a sample of the sad scene we faced at the Trump rally in Tampa.
00:06:55.000 I'm very worried that the hostility whipped up by Trump and some of the conservative media will result in somebody getting hurt.
00:06:59.000 We should not treat our fellow Americans this way.
00:07:01.000 The press is not the enemy.
00:07:04.000 I sort of agree with the idea that we shouldn't treat our fellow Americans this way, but I do have a question, which is the same media who apparently didn't care at all when Trump supporters were legitimately being beaten up outside rallies in San Jose, who didn't care when a Trump rally was getting shut down by protesters in Chicago, who didn't, who barely covered for like a week the actual shooting of Congress people, of Republican Congress people at a softball game in Northern Virginia.
00:07:28.000 Who don't care when Charles Murray is run off campus at physical risk and a leftist professor actually ends up concussed.
00:07:35.000 Right?
00:07:36.000 Who undercover all of this stuff.
00:07:37.000 But then when it's the media, then it's the end of the world.
00:07:39.000 And specifically when it's the left media, it's the end of the world.
00:07:42.000 When the Family Research Council is shot up by a guy who read the Southern Poverty Leadership Council
00:07:48.000 We're good to go.
00:08:05.000 I don't think it's an excuse for standing there and shouting at Jim Acosta.
00:08:08.000 First of all, I think you're helping Jim Acosta when you do this.
00:08:10.000 It allows Jim Acosta to play victim.
00:08:12.000 It allows Jim Acosta to pretend that he is some sort of braveheart character standing out there amidst the slings and arrows.
00:08:18.000 It allows Jim Acosta to posture, which is his favorite thing to do.
00:08:21.000 Jim Acosta loves Jim Acosta so much that I assume when you go to his apartment, Jim Acosta actually has life-sized cutouts of Jim Acosta.
00:08:27.000 Just all around, right?
00:08:29.000 There's like one standing at the fridge and then there's one at the bathroom holding his razor for him.
00:08:33.000 Jim Acosta loves him some Jim Acosta.
00:08:35.000 You are actually benefiting, Jim Acosta, when you do this sort of thing.
00:08:38.000 But let's be real about this.
00:08:40.000 The media pretending that this is something new in American politics and that they have not contributed to this climate is just insane.
00:08:47.000 Remember, CNN held a full-scale gun control rally complete with shaming rituals directed at the NRA and Marco Rubio just a few months ago after the Parkland shootings.
00:08:56.000 We talked about it at the time.
00:08:57.000 It included a reporter who I think is very often good, Jake Tapper, right?
00:09:01.000 Jake was doing the interviews.
00:09:04.000 And it turned into this pathetic ritual where a bunch of people would get up and suggest that Marco Rubio was equivalent to a mass shooter in a public high school.
00:09:14.000 And we're supposed to believe now that everything that's happening is new?
00:09:17.000 That demonization in politics is new?
00:09:19.000 That mistreatment of media members is new?
00:09:22.000 That rallying at inappropriate events is new?
00:09:25.000 First of all, this was a Trump rally.
00:09:26.000 Okay, like, what did you expect?
00:09:28.000 Trump's rallies have been like this from the very beginning.
00:09:29.000 They've always been rowdy.
00:09:31.000 Nothing has changed.
00:09:32.000 I've been critical of the rowdiness of some of Trump's rallies for a very long time, but
00:09:36.000 The media's pretend ignorance about all of this is really kind of galling.
00:09:40.000 And that's what people are reacting to.
00:09:42.000 And then people wonder, oh, people in the media, why do they dislike us so much?
00:09:46.000 We're just here covering the facts.
00:09:47.000 We're just here reporting.
00:09:49.000 Why do they dislike us so much?
00:09:50.000 Well, maybe it's because you pose yourselves as the conscience of America versus the rest of America.
00:09:56.000 Nobody likes a schoolmarm.
00:09:57.000 Nobody likes a nanny.
00:09:59.000 And nobody likes an insulting nanny more than anything else.
00:10:01.000 Mark Caputo is a reporter at Politico.
00:10:03.000 He actually tweeted this out in response to Jim Acosta.
00:10:10.000 Yes, I'm sure that is going to really ramp down the rhetoric here.
00:10:12.000 I'm sure that is really going to make sure that everybody treats each other with a certain level of civility and decency that we have not yet found in American politics.
00:10:22.000 And there are all these polls showing that people don't trust the media.
00:10:24.000 One of the reasons people don't trust the media is because the people believe that the media are a self-serving institution.
00:10:29.000 A lot of Trump supporters believe that President Trump is fighting for them.
00:10:32.000 One of the reasons they believe that President Trump is fighting for them and not for himself is because he expresses sympathy for a lot of these folks.
00:10:38.000 He doesn't call them bitter clingers.
00:10:39.000 He doesn't suggest they're a bunch of losers.
00:10:41.000 He'll say things like, we are the elites.
00:10:42.000 He expresses the frustration of a lot of people in the middle of the country, particularly who have felt culturally dispossessed by the elites on the coast, by the elitists, I should say, on the coast for a very long time.
00:10:52.000 Trump expresses that particularly well because Trump, as a human being,
00:10:57.000 has a certain level of insecurity that drives him to feel like he's a guy outside the party constantly.
00:11:01.000 He's had this for decades.
00:11:03.000 And that resonates well with a lot of people who felt like they've been forcibly expelled from the party by the cultural arbiters of decency, by the folks like Jim Acosta.
00:11:10.000 And so when Trump rallies those folks, there's a certain level of warmth to him.
00:11:13.000 But there's not that same level of warmth to the media.
00:11:16.000 The media who treat themselves as a sort of cased apart.
00:11:18.000 They're a sort of clique.
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00:11:24.000 They are geniuses.
00:11:25.000 Arbiters of what is good and bad in the United States, as opposed to just fact tellers and truth tellers.
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00:13:05.000 Okay, so, you know, the media treating themselves as a sort of special group of people is one of the great irritants, I think, to the American people.
00:13:11.000 You see it every time there's talk about First Amendment rights by the media.
00:13:15.000 Now, I am almost a First Amendment absolutist.
00:13:17.000 I'm about as close to a First Amendment absolutist as you can get.
00:13:20.000 I've gotten more libertarian on the First Amendment over the course of my career just because I fear the government intervention in the First Amendment sphere, which we'll talk about in just a little while.
00:13:28.000 There's a new case in which the government looks to be cracking down on the First Amendment in order to crack down on the Second Amendment.
00:13:33.000 But...
00:13:33.000 The media treat the First Amendment as though it is a special preserve of members of the media.
00:13:37.000 So, when there's an attempt to shut down people from speaking at public universities, then the media treat it as though this is an actual debate we ought to be having.
00:13:45.000 But, when there are members of the media who are restricted from asking a question to the President of the United States, it's the end of the world.
00:13:52.000 They are not principled in their actual pursuit of First Amendment rights.
00:13:55.000 The same media that will champion the idea that there should be restrictions on quote-unquote hate speech will tell you about how the media are a special preserve of people and the freedom of the press is our key freedom.
00:14:05.000 Well, the freedom of the press was not a... The idea by some on the left is that you have to be an accredited journalist to really experience freedom of the press.
00:14:13.000 That's not what freedom of the press meant.
00:14:15.000 And the same thing is true when it comes to the sort of violent, nasty rhetoric we've been seeing in our politics.
00:14:20.000 The media don't seem to mind so much when it's targeted at gun control opponents, when it's targeted at Second Amendment advocates, when it's targeted at social conservatives, when it's targeted at religious bakers.
00:14:30.000 Then they don't care so much when there's all this ire and anger and ginning up of outrage directed at the people they don't like.
00:14:36.000 But as soon as it's directed at the media themselves, then all of a sudden they get very, very touchy about this stuff very, very quickly.
00:14:42.000 Then they say, oh, well, now I feel like we're on the verge of a civil war.
00:14:45.000 Now, remember, Jim Acosta is tweeting this stuff out.
00:14:47.000 Well, the same media was downplaying just a few weeks ago when a Fox News reporter said that she couldn't even report from the steps of the Supreme Court because she was fearful of the reaction of a bunch of lefties to the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh, so she wouldn't go out there and report because she felt like she was being threatened.
00:15:00.000 The media said, oh, well, you know, that's, that's just, I mean, we were out there and it was fine.
00:15:04.000 We were out there and it was no problem.
00:15:06.000 But when a CNN reporter gets tossed out of the briefing room, wrongly in my opinion, by the White House, then all of a sudden it's, why aren't Fox News, why aren't the people on the right defending us?
00:15:15.000 People on the right should defend you, and you know what you should do?
00:15:17.000 You should defend the First Amendment.
00:15:18.000 You should actually defend the civility in the political process.
00:15:21.000 The same people, MSNBC will host Maxine Waters every night of the week without actually pressing her on whether it is appropriate to tell people to
00:15:29.000 Accost people in public places.
00:15:32.000 The media will champion folks who yell at Christian Nielsen, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in a restaurant.
00:15:37.000 They'll say this is all good.
00:15:39.000 But then, as soon as there's some people who yell at Jim Acosta at a rally, then it's the end of the world and we're supposed to pretend that this is something new and history started just now.
00:15:46.000 Like, we just figured out that history just started.
00:15:48.000 It's really irritating to a lot of folks.
00:15:51.000 And I think that's the reason why you are seeing so much ire on the part of folks on the right.
00:15:55.000 Now, I will say that I think that all of this needs to calm down on every side.
00:16:01.000 There's been a lot of talk in the last...
00:16:03.000 A couple of years, three years, about an upcoming civil war in the United States.
00:16:07.000 About the idea that we are going to break out into fighting.
00:16:09.000 I wrote a dystopian novel about the possibility of civil war coming to the United States.
00:16:13.000 The whole point of the dystopian novel is that it is about five steps removed from reality.
00:16:17.000 We are not there yet.
00:16:19.000 There are indicators that conflict is on the way, but the idea that there's going to be some great armed conflict or that we are in the middle of the second civil war right now is just absurd.
00:16:28.000 If you just walk around the United States, the idea that people are going to be shooting each other in the next couple of years is insane.
00:16:32.000 You could not say the same thing in the lead-up to the first Civil War.
00:16:35.000 In the lead-up to the first Civil War, you actually had a pre-Civil War in Kansas in 1856.
00:16:40.000 It was called Bleeding Kansas, where slaveholders and advocates for slavery and freestaters were actually going at it and shooting each other and murdering each other in relatively significant numbers in the state of Kansas.
00:16:52.000 They actually had John Brown going down to Harper's Ferry and trying to lead a slave revolt and
00:16:58.000 Almost a dozen people being shot, right?
00:16:59.000 You actually had this sort of stuff happening on a fairly regular basis, and there was open talk about the possibility of a civil war leading up to the civil war.
00:17:07.000 It's very difficult to look at today's United States and figure that all the hemp smokers in San Francisco are going to be at war with the gun owners in Texas in the next few years.
00:17:17.000 Yeah, I think that both sides now have an interest in ramping up the rhetoric of civil war.
00:17:20.000 So on the left, you have an interest in suggesting that fascism is on the way and that we are all going to be put under the tyrannical boot of the Trump administration.
00:17:28.000 And on the right, you have an interest in suggesting that the resistance, the so-called resistance of the left, is going to lead to the outgrowth of a civil war.
00:17:37.000 Now, I will admit that when you are in the political sphere and you're watching this stuff every day, it's very easy to be drawn into this sort of rhetoric.
00:17:43.000 I don't think I've been immune to it over the course of my career.
00:17:46.000 It's easy to get alarmist when you are immersed in politics every single day.
00:17:50.000 And then you turn off Twitter and you go out into the world and you realize nobody's actually ready to shoot each other.
00:17:54.000 And the number of people who are actually ready to clock each other, it's very, very low, which is why when things have come to blows, very often the government backs down.
00:18:03.000 The case in point being, for example, the Bundy Ranch scenario where Cliven Bundy and his sons essentially told the federal government to stand down and some of them were arrested and then there was some jury nullification and nobody actually went to jail, right?
00:18:16.000 When the possibility of actual violence is in the offing, it seems like there has been a generalized move to back off of that.
00:18:24.000 As opposed to exacerbating that.
00:18:26.000 And the problem with the Civil War rhetoric is that what it actually does, it justifies any sort of behavior from any side.
00:18:31.000 So, Victor Davis Hanson, who's a terrific writer.
00:18:33.000 Victor Davis Hanson has written some of my favorite books, particularly on the history of warfare.
00:18:37.000 He has a piece over at National Review, with which I significantly disagree, okay?
00:18:40.000 And it's called, The Origins of Our Second Civil War.
00:18:43.000 And he writes,
00:18:55.000 Now, again, I don't know what that means that these things have been quote-unquote weaponized.
00:18:59.000 They have been politicized, but weaponized is a bit of an extreme term that sports has been weaponized.
00:19:05.000 It has been politicized.
00:19:06.000 It has not been weaponized in the sense that you're now banned from participating in sports if you happen to be a conservative or you're banned if you happen to be somebody on the left.
00:19:14.000 But Victor Davis Hanson continues, Donald Trump's election was not so much a catalyst for the divide as a manifestation and amplification of the existing schism.
00:19:21.000 Agree with that.
00:19:21.000 But he says, we are now nearing a point comparable to 1860 and perhaps past 1968.
00:19:27.000 Left-right factionalism is increasingly fueled by geography, always history's force multiplier of civil strife.
00:19:32.000 Red and blue states ensure that locale magnifies differences that were mostly manageable during the administrations of Ford, Carter, Reagan, the Bushes, and Clinton.
00:19:40.000 So he says that the country is polarizing along geographic lines.
00:19:43.000 He says that globalization has undermined national unity because we have these iconic billionaires in high tech and finance and coastal elites, but it's hollowed out the muscular jobs largely in the American interior.
00:19:53.000 This is just not true.
00:19:55.000 Technology has largely muscled out a lot of those jobs.
00:19:57.000 The manufacturing capacity of the United States has actually risen over the past three decades.
00:20:01.000 It's just the technology has gotten a lot better because as a country, we have moved more in the direction of technology doing work that human hands
00:20:08.000 Used to do.
00:20:09.000 That doesn't mean that we can't solve that with job retraining and with programs designed to get people into new industries.
00:20:15.000 But the idea that globalization is what is driving all of this, this angst, I think is not correct.
00:20:21.000 He says high tech has driven a lot of this, the mass production of cheap consumer goods.
00:20:25.000 This is driving the Second Civil War.
00:20:26.000 Campuses are driving the Second Civil War.
00:20:28.000 You know, as somebody who has been
00:20:29.000 You know, literally banned from campuses.
00:20:32.000 Campuses are a terrible place, very often.
00:20:34.000 But, I've spoken on probably 50 campuses in the last couple of years, and 45 of them were mostly okay.
00:20:40.000 Illegal immigration.
00:20:41.000 He says the Obama project, like, I agree with all of his critiques of where the United States is going wrong.
00:20:45.000 So I think it's all leading to a second civil war.
00:20:47.000 I really don't.
00:20:48.000 Now I want to explain what could lead to a second civil war.
00:20:52.000 OK, now what actually could lead to a second civil war, I don't think is any of these outside forces.
00:20:55.000 I don't think that it's globalization.
00:20:57.000 I don't think it's illegal immigration.
00:20:58.000 I don't even think that it was the terrible Obama presidency, which I think really did exacerbate a lot of the gaps in the United States.
00:21:05.000 I don't think economics is what's going to lead to a second civil war.
00:21:08.000 You know, Victor Davis Hanson in National Review, he says, And then he gets to the one thing that I think is correct.
00:21:33.000 Here is the one thing that I think Victor Davis Hanson says that is correct.
00:21:36.000 He's ignored it through most of the article, but this is where I think that he is right.
00:21:39.000 He says,
00:21:53.000 Spiritual transcendence is the timeless water of life.
00:21:56.000 Technology is simply the delivery pump.
00:21:57.000 We confuse the two.
00:21:59.000 This, I totally agree with.
00:22:01.000 Okay, this is the part where he is totally right.
00:22:03.000 One of the things that has happened is that we have polarized along technological lines because it is easy to sit behind your keyboard on Twitter and say mean things to other people you would never say to them in person.
00:22:13.000 It's easy when you don't go to church to slander your neighbors as people without teeth, as Mark Caputo was doing.
00:22:18.000 It is very easy when you don't actually have a community you feel a sense of belonging to
00:22:24.000 To talk about going to war with all of your neighbors.
00:22:26.000 All that stuff is social isolation has actually increased in a time of social networking, which is one of the great ironies of the rise of technology.
00:22:34.000 We spend less time with human beings and we spend more time online pretending to be with human beings and treating people how we would not want to be treated did we actually meet people in regular life.
00:22:43.000 What's missing is the spiritual component, the sense that we're all in the fight together.
00:22:47.000 And that's been missing for a while in the United States.
00:22:49.000 That's nothing new.
00:22:51.000 The problem is that all of the Civil War talk actually exacerbates the problem.
00:22:54.000 And this is the problem I have with the Civil War talk.
00:22:56.000 The Civil War talk...
00:22:58.000 If you want to talk about a crisis of American conscience, I'm with you.
00:23:01.000 If you want to talk about a crisis of American spirituality, I'm totally with you.
00:23:04.000 If you want to talk about a crisis in the West of meaning and purpose, not only am I with you, I wrote an entire book on it.
00:23:09.000 I wrote an entire book on this crisis of meaning, what we've lost, why we lost it.
00:23:14.000 I think that we've lost a couple of things in the West.
00:23:15.000 I think we've lost the idea of a Judeo-Christian value system that bound us all together.
00:23:19.000 And we also lost the idea of reason as a universal solvent that was going to help
00:23:25.000 Bring us together and also grant us the capacity to talk with one another.
00:23:29.000 And we've broken down into identity politics and subjectivism.
00:23:32.000 I think there are a lot of things that have gone wrong with our culture, but talking about civil war only exacerbates the problem because the problem with saying that we're on the verge of a second civil war is that it actually encourages you to look at people across the aisle from you and not see the common face of an American, but see somebody who is your enemy attempting to destroy the United States.
00:23:50.000 And that's not to say that conflicts between left and right don't exist.
00:23:53.000 They do.
00:23:54.000 And I think the left is dead wrong on virtually all of these issues.
00:23:57.000 I think fighting leftist principles is a deeply important thing because I think the left is complicit in the destruction of these central ideals of America that bind us together.
00:24:06.000 I think the left has forcibly attempted to destroy the Judeo-Christian fabric.
00:24:10.000 I think that the left has abandoned reason on behalf of subjective feeling.
00:24:15.000 But I also think that most people in the United States are not, quote unquote, on the left.
00:24:19.000 I think most people in the United States simply are told certain things by the media, and they believe those things because members of the media say them.
00:24:25.000 I think a lot of people in the United States don't even think about policy very often.
00:24:28.000 They don't think about politics very often.
00:24:30.000 And if they do think about politics, I think they are driven into a state of insanity by all of the talk of this sort of civil war mentality.
00:24:37.000 The war is on.
00:24:38.000 America's on the verge of destruction.
00:24:40.000 The greatest, freest country in the history of the world, most prosperous country in the history of the world.
00:24:43.000 We're on the verge of chaos.
00:24:45.000 That sort of talk, I think, makes things worse.
00:24:47.000 I don't think we're on the verge of chaos, but I think that we have to look at the underlying trends and try to reverse them.
00:24:51.000 I think that would be the best way to talk about this.
00:24:53.000 We're not on the verge of the collapse of the United States.
00:24:55.000 We are not.
00:24:56.000 And Donald Trump is not a symptom of that, nor is he a cause of that.
00:24:58.000 We are not on the verge of the collapse of the United States.
00:25:01.000 500 disgusting idiots marching in Charlottesville is not the collapse of the United States, right?
00:25:07.000 Even the shooting of Congress people by an evil Bernie Sanders supporter, that is not the collapse of the United States, right?
00:25:14.000 The United States is a lot more durable than that because it was built on these principles.
00:25:18.000 What is the collapse of the United States is when we forget about this common fabric.
00:25:21.000 I still believe most Americans believe in the certain set of decency brought about by Judeo-Christian values.
00:25:26.000 Even if people don't go to church, I think they believe in those values.
00:25:28.000 They just don't know where they came from.
00:25:30.000 Which means it's our job to reinstill those values.
00:25:32.000 It's our job to talk about those values.
00:25:33.000 To talk about where they came from, why they are important, why people should go to church, why people should go to synagogue.
00:25:38.000 At the same time, we have to talk about why it is that reason is necessary.
00:25:41.000 Why it is that classical liberalism, the idea that we are free because we have certain inalienable rights.
00:25:48.000 Why our reason allows us to have a republic where we can sit and talk together.
00:25:52.000 Why that stuff is actually important.
00:25:55.000 Right?
00:25:55.000 Arguments over the tax rates are not going to destroy the United States.
00:25:57.000 Abandonment of reason and abandonment of values are going to destroy the United States.
00:26:00.000 And the problem is, once you get into a mentality that we are in a war, wartime mentality encourages people to abandon morality.
00:26:08.000 People are at their worst in a war.
00:26:10.000 And one of the weird things about the way that we perceive war in the modern world, because so few of us have actually been in the military, only a small percentage of Americans actually even know people who have been in the military or deal with people in the military on a regular basis,
00:26:23.000 Because of that, we tend to think that war makes the best of people.
00:26:27.000 When we watch war movies, we see, oh, look at the unity of the guys in Band of Brothers.
00:26:30.000 Look how they came together.
00:26:32.000 Look how, in a war, there's a common sense of purpose.
00:26:34.000 This is why so many folks, particularly on the political left, like to talk about the war on poverty.
00:26:39.000 People on the right will talk about the war on illegal immigration, the war on Christmas.
00:26:42.000 We're constantly using the language of war because we think that war brings us together and refines us, that pressure turns us into a purer version of ourselves.
00:26:51.000 The worst atrocities in the history of mankind have happened during war.
00:26:53.000 The reason for that is because once you believe that you are fighting in a battle, once you believe that your life is at stake, once you believe that war is at your front door, you're willing to do almost anything in order to prevent yourself from losing that war.
00:27:06.000 Once you believe that the country is one step away from its end, it's pretty easy to justify doing virtually anything.
00:27:14.000 And I think that that's having a pretty significant impact, this sort of Civil War rhetoric, on how people think on both the left and on the right.
00:27:20.000 So, let's take an example.
00:27:22.000 Over the last 24 hours, several members of the Trump administration have talked about Russian meddling in elections.
00:27:27.000 And they've talked about how bad it is.
00:27:28.000 So, Mike Pence, the vice president, he says that Russian meddling is offensive to democracy.
00:27:32.000 Of course, he's exactly right.
00:27:34.000 The fact is, Russia meddled in our 2016 elections.
00:27:39.000 Russia's goal was to sow discord and division, and to weaken the American people's faith in our democracy.
00:27:46.000 And while no actual votes were changed, any attempt to interfere in our elections is an affront to our democracy, and it will not be allowed.
00:27:56.000 Okay, so that's right.
00:27:58.000 What Mike Pence says there is exactly right.
00:28:00.000 And then Christian Nielsen, who's the Homeland Security Secretary, she comes out and she says election meddling is happening in real time.
00:28:06.000 Americans need to be aware that it's a very real threat.
00:28:08.000 It's happening real time.
00:28:10.000 FBI has lead on that.
00:28:11.000 They have a task force.
00:28:12.000 We support them.
00:28:13.000 And we work with the private sector, such as Facebook, companies like Facebook, to try to pull down content that is inauthentic.
00:28:19.000 Okay, so there is a real problem with the Russians meddling in our election.
00:28:22.000 Now, if you're a patriotic American who believes that Western civilization actually requires defense, you should be offended by the idea of a country like Russia attempting to meddle in our elections.
00:28:32.000 The idea that Vladimir Putin, who is a thug dictator who murders his dissidents, interfering in our elections should be offensive to you no matter where you stand on the political aisle.
00:28:39.000 I was deeply offended when Barack Obama said to Dmitry Medvedev in 2012 that he wanted flexibility from the Russian government so that if they were kind to him and didn't do anything, he would provide them flexibility in his next administration.
00:28:53.000 It was disgusting.
00:28:54.000 Russian interference in the election is a bad thing.
00:28:56.000 But there's a new poll out today, and this is, I think, an outgrowth of a Civil War mentality.
00:29:00.000 There's a new poll out today, and here was the question in the poll.
00:29:03.000 If Russia were to help the Republicans or Democrats keep or win control of Congress in the November elections, do you think their actions would be appropriate, inappropriate but not a big deal, or inappropriate and it's a big deal?
00:29:14.000 So according to Republicans, people who lean Republican,
00:29:18.000 Fully 40%, 40% of Republicans say it would either be appropriate for the Russians to interfere in our elections to help Republicans win, or that it wouldn't be appropriate but it wouldn't be all that big a deal if the Russians interfere in our elections to help us win.
00:29:31.000 40% of Republicans say that it's not that big a deal if the Russians actually interfered in our elections and we knew that they were interfering in our elections.
00:29:38.000 Four in ten.
00:29:40.000 55% say it's not appropriate and it would be a big deal.
00:29:42.000 Which means that's the correct 55%.
00:29:45.000 Democrats now say 14% say that it would be inappropriate but not a big deal.
00:29:50.000 86% say it would not be appropriate and it would be a big deal.
00:29:54.000 Okay, so that is a, you know, that is a massive gap.
00:29:58.000 That's a massive gap.
00:29:58.000 Now, I'm gonna talk in a little while, in a second, about why I think that those statistics are what those statistics are.
00:30:04.000 I don't think that this is about Republicans are bad people and Democrats are good people or anything stupid like that.
00:30:09.000 I think that there is
00:30:10.000 There are a couple of explanations for this, but you'll all have to explain on the other side of the Facebook.
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00:31:20.000 So there are two factors that are leading to this disparate polling, right?
00:31:24.000 So what the polling shows, again, is that 40% of Republicans think that if the Russians interfered in the elections to help Republicans maintain control of Congress in 2018, it wouldn't be a big deal.
00:31:33.000 14% of Democrats say that if the Democrats were helped by the Russians, it would be a not big deal.
00:31:38.000 So why 40 versus 14?
00:31:40.000 There are two reasons.
00:31:41.000 Reason number one is the most obvious reason, which is that the Republicans who are answering this poll
00:31:48.000 Are seeing, are actually not answering the poll question.
00:31:51.000 This is one of the big problems with polling of Republicans right now.
00:31:54.000 Anytime a pollster mentions the word Russia, Republicans immediately trigger and they immediately go to, I'm going to deny that anything bad has ever happened with Russia.
00:32:02.000 Because you guys are making such a big deal out of this Russian nonsense.
00:32:05.000 You keep saying that Trump, the election was illegitimate.
00:32:07.000 You keep trying to make this into Trump is a tool of the Russians.
00:32:10.000 Well, F you, right?
00:32:11.000 So this answer is basically F you to the media and the pollster who are asking questions.
00:32:15.000 I think that really is what's driving this because
00:32:18.000 Honestly, I felt this feeling too.
00:32:20.000 I went to a place called the Magic Castle up here in the hills in Hollywood.
00:32:22.000 It's a great place.
00:32:23.000 It's really fun.
00:32:24.000 There's a magician who actually has, I think, a show on Netflix coming out soon.
00:32:28.000 A terrific magician.
00:32:29.000 But at the very beginning, he made some joke about Trump.
00:32:32.000 And I was so tempted to stand up and just start yelling at the guy because it's so irritating.
00:32:37.000 It's all really, really irritating.
00:32:38.000 So I think that part of that statistic that 40% of Republicans don't care if the Russians interfere in the 2018 elections, I think that that statistic is largely driven by Republicans going, you know what?
00:32:47.000 Screw you, I'm not answering your question, because you keep making a big deal out of this Russia stuff.
00:32:51.000 Part of it is that a lot of Republicans really believe that if we are in the midst of a civil war, any and all means necessary to defeat the opponent are on the table.
00:33:02.000 This is the danger of talking civil war.
00:33:03.000 And I think Democrats felt the same way when they felt that Barack Obama was in danger.
00:33:06.000 They felt that anything that helped defeat Barack Obama
00:33:11.000 It was a great evil that had to be fought at every possible turn.
00:33:14.000 So riots in Ferguson?
00:33:15.000 Well, that was just a way of expressing discontent with the system.
00:33:18.000 Riots in Baltimore?
00:33:18.000 Just a way of expressing discontent with the system.
00:33:21.000 No, Antifa.
00:33:23.000 Maybe they're a little bit extreme, but are they that extreme?
00:33:25.000 This sort of attitude now pervades the country.
00:33:28.000 The belief that civil war is upon us is almost a self-fulfilling prophecy.
00:33:33.000 Once you start saying that civil war is this far away, people start building up for war.
00:33:37.000 People start girding their loins, getting ready for battle.
00:33:38.000 And that means treating other people around them in more immoral fashion, not more moral fashion.
00:33:44.000 So I think that's why I object to some of the Civil War rhetoric and I think that it's actually quite dangerous for the future of the country for us to keep talking like this instead of focusing on the fact that we do have this amazing edifice that we've built together and that, with the grace of God, has been built for us by people who came before us.
00:34:00.000 What do we have to do to uphold that edifice as opposed to tearing it down?
00:34:03.000 And yes, let's have the fights with the socialists.
00:34:05.000 Yes, let's talk about the foundational principles of the United States.
00:34:09.000 But let's not pretend that we're on the verge of shooting each other in the streets because we actually are not.
00:34:14.000 I also think that the more that Republicans talk like this, the more they're going to off-put the independent vote.
00:34:18.000 I think that people in the middle don't want to hear this.
00:34:20.000 Most people don't want to be bothered, is the truth.
00:34:22.000 Most people want to be left alone.
00:34:23.000 And people constantly shrieking in your ear that the Civil War is coming is not actually of benefit to you electorally.
00:34:30.000 By the way, when the Civil War does come, you know, if the Civil War were to come in, I think, several decades, I don't think that it would come from
00:34:37.000 Tyrannical Republicans cramming down their values.
00:34:39.000 I think it would come more from tyrannical Democrats outlawing hate speech, outlawing religious practice, attempting to crack down on my church or my synagogue, attempting to take my child away from me if I don't teach them their preferred social policies.
00:34:50.000 Right?
00:34:50.000 That's where things are really going to get bad.
00:34:52.000 But I think it's going to be a long while before we get there, because I still think that the vast majority of Americans don't believe like the radical left believes.
00:34:59.000 That said, this is one of the reasons why it's important how we talk about politics.
00:35:02.000 This is why the mannerisms of militants actually don't help us generate victory.
00:35:09.000 They don't help generate political victory.
00:35:11.000 What helps us generate political victory is making better arguments than the other side, calling them out when they make bad character attacks, calling them out for lack of character when they do those sorts of things.
00:35:20.000 But the constant, the constant idea that we have to be weapons up all the time, eventually somebody is going to pull the trigger and things will get ugly at that point.
00:35:28.000 The more weapons that go up, the better chance that somebody is going to pull the trigger.
00:35:31.000 And that is a serious problem.
00:35:33.000 Now, speaking of pulling the trigger,
00:35:35.000 There is a crazy thing that is happening right now where a bunch of folks on the left are now attempting to ban 3D gun printing.
00:35:41.000 We talked a little bit yesterday about the fact that folks in the media do not know what in the hell they are talking about when they talk about printing of 3D guns.
00:35:47.000 They really think that I'm going to take my HP LaserJet and print out a gun in my house right now.
00:35:53.000 Like, they really think that that's a thing I can do.
00:35:55.000 That I can just go into my library and I can print out a gun from my normal printer.
00:36:01.000 Because they hear printing and this is what they think.
00:36:03.000 That's not how it works.
00:36:04.000 An actual 3D printing machine costs upward of $8,000 all the way up to $100,000.
00:36:09.000 Nobody is sitting in their basement actually printing out fully plastic guns.
00:36:12.000 That is illegal.
00:36:13.000 You are not allowed to manufacture guns that are not detectable.
00:36:16.000 That is just not something that happens.
00:36:18.000 People have been manufacturing their own guns literally for centuries.
00:36:21.000 People making guns in their house with gun-making kits.
00:36:24.000 Most of those are made of metal.
00:36:25.000 Most of the parts are coming from actual gun manufacturers.
00:36:28.000 But the left is driving this narrative that the new great danger in the United States is going to be 3D guns.
00:36:33.000 That's going to be the great danger.
00:36:34.000 That's where all of the danger in the United States is coming from.
00:36:36.000 So, Senator Markey, who doesn't know legitimately a damn thing about guns, he was speaking yesterday.
00:36:42.000 He says, 3D guns are a national security risk.
00:36:45.000 In a world where a 3D printer cartridge has become as deadly as a gun cartridge.
00:36:53.000 And that's because these downloadable firearms are available even to those who could not pass a background check.
00:37:01.000 It's the ultimate gun loophole.
00:37:04.000 What in the world is he talking about?
00:37:06.000 Ed Markey does not know what he is talking about.
00:37:08.000 The idea there are a bunch of felons who are sitting in their basements with $100,000 printing machines for 3D plastic guns is just ridiculous.
00:37:16.000 If a felon wants to get a gun, the easiest way to do it is just to buy it illegally.
00:37:19.000 Really, it's going to cost you like $1,000, as opposed to, I don't know, $150,000 to manufacture a 3D AR-15 that fires three times before it breaks.
00:37:29.000 This is so stupid.
00:37:30.000 But a federal judge has now blocked 3D gun plans.
00:37:33.000 So according to CNN,
00:37:36.000 If you are looking to download the blueprints for how to make a plastic gun using a 3D printer, you can't yet get them online from a site distributing them legally.
00:37:42.000 A federal judge Tuesday night blocked a settlement that would have allowed Defense Distributed, a Texas-based gun rights organization, to legally post blueprints for 3D printable guns.
00:37:50.000 But hundreds of designs reportedly were downloaded before the judge's decision, meaning those designs are out there, legally or not.
00:37:55.000 Well, yes, I mean, the idea that you're going to shut down every site on the internet that is posting these blueprints is just asinine and a significant violation of free speech.
00:38:04.000 First of all, you can buy the Anarchist Cookbook right now at Barnes & Noble.
00:38:07.000 You can go to Amazon.com and you can buy the Anarchist Cookbook, which actually includes bomb-making lessons.
00:38:12.000 So the distribution of information is not the serious problem here.
00:38:16.000 The distribution of information is not what is going to lead to the collapse of the United States.
00:38:21.000 I'm much more fearful of the federal government stepping in and saying, we are afraid that you're going to manufacture a gun in your own house, therefore,
00:38:27.000 We are going to regulate what kinds of sites are on the internet.
00:38:29.000 By the way, everybody just went to an alternate site yesterday.
00:38:31.000 They shut down one site and everybody just went to an alternative site.
00:38:34.000 But this is my great fear.
00:38:36.000 If tyranny is going to come in the United States, it's going to come from people who are so fearful of the liberty of Americans that they believe that the government should shut down all sorts of freedoms that we hold dear.
00:38:46.000 That's where tyranny is actually going to come from.
00:38:48.000 It's not going to come from
00:38:50.000 The idea that globalization and additional technology is exacerbating cultural differentiation, which leads to us picking up guns and going and invading the local Starbucks.
00:38:59.000 That's not a thing that's really in the offing.
00:39:02.000 And so, again, media ignorance on full display.
00:39:05.000 They're just doing a wonderful job.
00:39:06.000 Meanwhile, the president of the United States is sounding off again about Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
00:39:11.000 He tweeted out earlier today that there's a terrible situation surrounding the Mueller investigation.
00:39:16.000 He says Attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now before it continues to stain our country any further.
00:39:22.000 Bob Mueller is totally conflicted.
00:39:24.000 His 17 angry Democrats are doing his dirty work and are a disgrace to the United States.
00:39:28.000 Again, Rudy Giuliani, call your office, tell the president not to tweet things just as a lawyer.
00:39:33.000 This is not good.
00:39:34.000 They are now investigating President Trump for obstruction.
00:39:37.000 Obstruction is the impediment, presenting impediments to the Mueller investigation.
00:39:42.000 And he's fully tweeting out he wants Attorney General Jeff Sessions to fire
00:39:45.000 This guy.
00:39:46.000 It's just none of it is smart.
00:39:48.000 None of it is smart.
00:39:48.000 And again, the creation of a crisis mentality around issues where there really is no crisis, I think, is a major mistake in virtually every way.
00:39:57.000 OK, time for some things I hate, some things I like, and then some things I hate.
00:40:00.000 And then we'll do a long awaited Federalist paper because we missed doing it a little bit earlier this week.
00:40:04.000 OK, so things I like.
00:40:05.000 So I've been in the middle of this delightful book.
00:40:07.000 I'm called Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell by Susanna Clarke.
00:40:11.000 And it sort of is Harry Potter for grown-ups.
00:40:13.000 It's imitation Dickens, which means that it's wry and it's humorous.
00:40:16.000 And it's also kind of creepy.
00:40:17.000 So basically, it's English magic comes back at the beginning of the 19th century.
00:40:23.000 We're good to go.
00:40:43.000 And so both of us are reading this.
00:40:45.000 I don't know how far Dana is into this book.
00:40:46.000 I will have to ask her later.
00:40:47.000 But I am enjoying it, so go check it out.
00:40:49.000 There's also a BBC series they made out of it that got really good reviews, which is next on my watch list as soon as I finish this book.
00:40:55.000 Other things that I like.
00:40:57.000 So I have to admit, this Ron DeSantis ad is so funny.
00:40:59.000 So Ron DeSantis, who I am friendly with, congressperson from Florida, he is now running for governor of Florida.
00:41:05.000 I believe that DeSantis should win.
00:41:06.000 I think he's a good candidate, and I think that he will make an excellent governor of the state of Florida.
00:41:10.000 Really smart guy.
00:41:11.000 His family is very charming.
00:41:14.000 He cut this ad in an attempt to win the primaries in Florida.
00:41:18.000 And obviously he has to show allegiance to President Trump in order to win the primaries in Florida.
00:41:21.000 So he goes over the top and it's really, really funny.
00:41:24.000 Everyone knows my husband Ron DeSantis is endorsed by President Trump, but he's also an amazing dad.
00:41:30.000 Ron loves playing with the kids.
00:41:31.000 Build the wall!
00:41:33.000 He reads stories.
00:41:34.000 Then Mr. Trump said, you're fired.
00:41:37.000 I love that part.
00:41:39.000 He's teaching Madison to talk.
00:41:40.000 Make America great again.
00:41:43.000 People say Ron's all Trump, but he is so much more.
00:41:48.000 Big League.
00:41:49.000 So good.
00:41:50.000 I just thought you should know.
00:41:53.000 So I love the kind of tongue-in-cheek of it.
00:41:55.000 And it is true, obviously.
00:41:56.000 DeSantis has been a Trump supporter, and he will be an excellent governor.
00:42:01.000 Trump himself has endorsed DeSantis, which will help DeSantis in the primaries.
00:42:04.000 I think you're looking at the next governor of Florida in Ron DeSantis, which is just terrific.
00:42:09.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.
00:42:15.000 So when I suggest that the extreme rhetoric on left and right is bad for the country, I mean it.
00:42:20.000 D.L.
00:42:20.000 Hewley, who has been featured on CNN.
00:42:22.000 Remember, these are the same people who suggest that the media are truth tellers and are attempting to bring the country together.
00:42:28.000 D.L.
00:42:28.000 Hewley, who is allegedly a comedian.
00:42:31.000 He was talking about Dak Prescott.
00:42:32.000 Dak Prescott is the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys.
00:42:35.000 And he has said he is not kneeling for the National Anthem because he thinks it's stupid to kneel for the National Anthem, which is eminently correct.
00:42:40.000 So D.L.
00:42:40.000 Hewley suggested, of course, that Dak Prescott is not actually a black person.
00:42:45.000 I understand you want to make your money.
00:42:47.000 You could have said nothing, but you chose to speak for the master.
00:42:51.000 You chose to speak for the masses.
00:42:53.000 And I say this, and I say this, it's perfect that two players would speak up for the cowboy owners.
00:42:58.000 At least you got the boy part right.
00:43:01.000 This kind of stuff is really amazing.
00:43:02.000 So I've been criticized in the past for suggesting that Jews who vote for abortion policy, for example, or same-sex marriage, that they're Jews in name only because Judaism is actually a creed that has certain values attached to it.
00:43:13.000 And if you ignore those values, then you may be ethnically Jewish, but you're actually not participating in the religion of Judaism in any serious way.
00:43:20.000 Being black is not actually a creed.
00:43:22.000 Being black is a color.
00:43:24.000 You can't change it, right?
00:43:25.000 You are what you are.
00:43:26.000 And so when D.L.
00:43:27.000 Hewley suggests that Dak Prescott is no longer a black person, he's a boy working for the master because he doesn't want to kneel for the national anthem and says that it is bad to kneel for the national anthem, that sort of bigotry on a national stage is completely ignored.
00:43:39.000 And that is bad for the country.
00:43:40.000 That is just another example of extreme rhetoric that the left will ignore while they are jabbering about how people are being mean to Jim Acosta at a rally.
00:43:47.000 And again, I don't think it's great to be mean to Jim Acosta at a rally.
00:43:50.000 I think you are serving Jim Acosta's purpose of worshipping Jim Acosta when you do that.
00:43:53.000 But I also think that the left has ignored extreme... Al Sharpton still has a show on MSNBC, for God's sake.
00:43:58.000 The man was responsible, at least in part, for, and instrumental, in helping to incite a race riot in Crown Heights in 1991 that ended with the murder of an Orthodox Jew.
00:44:07.000 So, I mean, and that guy has a show on MSNBC.
00:44:10.000 It's really kind of sickening.
00:44:11.000 Speaking of extreme rhetoric, when I talk about the Civil War rhetoric that's emanating from every side right now, Andrea Mitchell, who's supposed to be a reporter last time I checked, right?
00:44:19.000 She was on Comedy Central, and she compared President Trump to Stalin, which makes perfect sense because they're exactly the same, except for not the same in any way that you can actually measure.
00:44:28.000 Here's Andrea Mitchell making that comparison.
00:44:31.000 I do think that he has very deliberately set up the press as the enemy of the people.
00:44:37.000 I don't feel that I am the enemy of the people, and it's not benign.
00:44:41.000 I mean, this is a... This is something that we first heard from Joseph Stalin.
00:44:51.000 This is very dangerous.
00:44:52.000 It undercuts democracy.
00:44:54.000 Okay, the difference is that if Joseph Stalin thought you were an enemy of the people, he would take you out and shoot you.
00:44:59.000 Donald Trump says a lot of things, but Donald Trump has yet to shoot Andrea Mitchell, thank God.
00:45:03.000 You know, this is not...
00:45:05.000 Do I like Trump's rhetoric about the media?
00:45:07.000 No, I've been very critical of President Trump's rhetoric about the media because I don't think that everything he says is fake news is actually fake news and I don't think the press are the enemies of the American people or anything like that.
00:45:15.000 I think they are self-involved.
00:45:16.000 I think they are self-indulgent all too often.
00:45:18.000 I think they have their own priorities, but I don't think that they are, you know, actively attempting to destroy the American people or anything like that.
00:45:25.000 That said, comparing Trump to Stalin is not actually making
00:45:28.000 It's not making Trump's case harder that you're doing a bad job as objective members of the media.
00:45:33.000 That's for sure.
00:45:33.000 OK, time for a quick Federalist paper.
00:45:35.000 So every week we go through a Federalist paper.
00:45:37.000 We're all the way up to Federalist 39.
00:45:39.000 So we're moving steadily through here.
00:45:41.000 So James Madison wrote Federalist 39, and he is making the case for why the government of the United States ought to be a republic.
00:45:48.000 And it's quite fascinating.
00:45:49.000 Here's what he says.
00:45:49.000 He describes why the U.S.
00:45:51.000 is a republic and not a democracy.
00:45:53.000 He says that a republic is a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure for a limited period or during good behavior.
00:46:03.000 It is essential to such a government that it be derived from a great body of society, not from an inconsiderable proportion or a favored class of it, otherwise a handful of tyrannical mobiles exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their government the honorable title of republic.
00:46:18.000 It is sufficient for such a government that the persons administering it be appointed either directly or indirectly by the people, that they hold their appointments by either the tenures just specified.
00:46:27.000 Otherwise, every government in the United States, as well as every other popular government that has been or can be well-organized or well-executed, would be degraded from the Republican character.
00:46:34.000 So, recognize what he's saying there.
00:46:36.000 What he's saying is what makes a republic is that we have a bunch of elected officials, elected by the great majority of the public, and that these officials hold their offices for a limited period or during good behavior.
00:46:47.000 This is a far cry from the bureaucratic government that has been instituted since the beginning of the 20th century in the United States.
00:46:53.000 The legislature of the United States has become the withered arm of American government.
00:46:56.000 The Constitution's Article 1 presents virtually all power in the form of the legislature.
00:47:01.000 There's no question that Congress was meant to be
00:47:04.000 Of all the branches, the most powerful.
00:47:06.000 No question.
00:47:07.000 And yet it has become in many ways the least powerful branch of the American government, which demonstrates we have moved away from an elected republic, more toward a bureaucratic government that has created all sorts of tension inside the American system.
00:47:20.000 It's the reason why people feel frustrated that government isn't doing what they want it to do, because your elected officials have kicked overall responsibility to a bunch of unelected, life-tenured bureaucrats
00:47:29.000 Over at a bunch of executive agencies.
00:47:30.000 This is a serious problem.
00:47:31.000 Madison continues by talking about how the nation was formed.
00:47:34.000 The reason this is important is because it actually led to some arguments about the actual Civil War.
00:47:39.000 So what he says is,
00:47:40.000 The way that the nation was formed was the assent and ratification of the several states derived from the supreme authority in each state, the authority of the people themselves.
00:47:48.000 The act therefore establishing the Constitution will be a national, well not a national, but a federal act.
00:47:52.000 So he says the states basically made the United States because the formation of the Constitution had to be upheld on a state-by-state basis universally.
00:48:03.000 And then he describes the Republic this way, he says,
00:48:10.000 In its foundation, it is federal, not national.
00:48:12.000 In the sources from which the ordinary powers of the government are drawn, it is partly federal and partly national.
00:48:17.000 And in the operation of these powers, it is national, not federal, meaning that it doesn't operate on a state-by-state basis.
00:48:22.000 You treat all the states the same according to the Constitution of the United States.
00:48:26.000 It says in the extent of them, it is again federal, not national, meaning that you can't override the rights of the states.
00:48:30.000 And finally, in the authoritative mode of introducing amendments, it is neither wholly federal nor wholly national.
00:48:35.000 Now, the reason that this became an interesting battle is leading up to the Civil War, there was an argument
00:48:39.000 It was called State Compact Theory that was made by members of the Confederacy, that basically, if the Constitution violated the original prescriptions that were signed off on by a variety of states, that those states had the right to withdraw from the Constitution.
00:48:52.000 Just as if I sign a contract with you, and you break the contract, I get to withdraw from the contract.
00:48:56.000 They say the states were the signatories to the Constitution, and therefore, if you violate the rights of a particular state, that state has the ability to withdraw.
00:49:03.000 The counter-argument was, we have an amendment process to the Constitution.
00:49:06.000 If you don't like,
00:49:07.000 How the government is acting, all you have to do is pass an amendment.
00:49:10.000 You don't have the votes for this amendment.
00:49:13.000 And so, how exactly are you going to fight that?
00:49:17.000 argument I don't think is legally insignificant.
00:49:20.000 I also think it has ramifications for today with regard to what is the exact purview of the state.
00:49:26.000 I think that the state compact theory is not entirely wrong from a legal perspective.
00:49:29.000 The problem was it was being fought over the great evil of the 19th century, slavery.
00:49:34.000 And therefore, the moral imperative to destroy slavery was stronger than the legal imperative to maintain the state's rights.
00:49:41.000 And that had some dramatic ramifications for the federal government going forward, although the truth is the full destruction of state power really didn't happen until the middle of the 20th century with the rise of the federal bureaucracy.
00:49:52.000 OK, well, we will be back here tomorrow to break down all the latest.
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