The Ben Shapiro Show - Is Trump About To Collapse On Immigration? | Ep. 461

00:00:00.000 President Trump says he's ready for citizenship for Dreamers, the Mueller investigation heats up, and should bosses ever date their secretaries?

00:00:06.000 We'll discuss it.

00:00:07.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:13.000 So it's wild confusion, mass hysteria, cats living with dogs, the end of the world as we know it, apparently all of this about the Mueller investigation.

00:00:20.000 I'm going to try and unpack everything that's going on here because I think you're hearing a lot of stuff that's not true from the right, you're hearing a lot of stuff that's not true from the left.

00:00:26.000 Basically both sides have preconceived notions of how this narrative is supposed to go and they're shifting the facts in order to meet those narrative notions.

00:00:33.000 We're going to get into all of that.

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00:01:50.000 Okay, so before I begin with all the negative news of the day, I just want to make a nice note because I don't normally do this.

00:01:55.000 I'm not big on the emotions.

00:01:57.000 I'm not big on the niceties.

00:01:59.000 Today is actually a really nice day.

00:02:01.000 Number one, we get to broadcast from the beautiful studios here at The Blaze.

00:02:04.000 So it's very kind of Glenn Beck and team to allow us to use their studio.

00:02:07.000 So that's awesome.

00:02:08.000 But also, I had an experience this morning.

00:02:10.000 I was up very, very early after my Yukon speech last night, which went great.

00:02:13.000 We're good to go.

00:02:30.000 Well, not being on the internet for me is sort of like it must be for a crack cocaine addict who has no access.

00:02:35.000 So I'm sitting there desperately trying to reload things on the phone.

00:02:38.000 The phone won't connect to anything.

00:02:39.000 And then I realized, hey, there's other stuff on my phone too.

00:02:41.000 And so I sat there and I listened to Bach, which I downloaded.

00:02:46.000 And I watched videos of my kids on my iPhone, on a plane, taking off at 400 miles an hour, taking me from Connecticut to Dallas.

00:02:54.000 And I just thought to myself, what a phenomenal world we live in.

00:02:57.000 I mean, really, it's amazing.

00:02:58.000 We tend to overlook all of this because we're used to it, because this is the civilization in which we live.

00:03:02.000 We take for granted Western civilization.

00:03:04.000 We take for granted the fact that we live in modernity.

00:03:06.000 The fact that if you have a cold, you have the flu, you just run down to a store and get medicine.

00:03:10.000 We take all this stuff for granted.

00:03:11.000 This stuff is the painstaking labor of

00:03:14.000 Literally millions of people over hundreds of generations.

00:03:17.000 That's what's brought us to this point.

00:03:18.000 And that's just, I think we should sit back and marvel a little bit at that.

00:03:21.000 That this is the culture, the culture brought us here.

00:03:24.000 I know that there are atheists out there who say it has nothing to do with culture, it has nothing to do with Judeo-Christian values, it has nothing to do with old-fashioned Greek reason and purpose-driven telos.

00:03:34.000 That's nonsense, okay?

00:03:35.000 It's all part of a whole.

00:03:36.000 The reason that you're able to sit on a plane and listen to Bach, right?

00:03:39.000 The music of Bach, a religious man, on your iPhone, hundreds of years after Bach died.

00:03:44.000 The reason that you're able to sit on a plane that takes you across the country in two hours, three hours, in a journey that used to take you weeks.

00:03:51.000 This is all because of free market capitalism.

00:03:52.000 It's all because of innovation.

00:03:53.000 It's all because there were people who felt driven to change the world because, yes, there was a religion that was dictating that it was important for them to change the world to make it better for other people.

00:04:01.000 So, all of this is worth appreciating.

00:04:03.000 So,

00:04:04.000 That was all

00:04:23.000 For years, there was even an implication by a man I greatly admire, Rush Limbaugh, that I thought was completely wrong.

00:04:28.000 The intelligence community somehow bamboozled George W. Bush on the Iraq War because I guess we're just anti-FBI now. 0.67

00:04:34.000 Again, I thought that that was silly.

00:04:36.000 I think that the conspiracy theories, however, are coming from a certain place.

00:04:39.000 The place they are coming from is the place where we now know that the FBI was basically complicit with the Obama DOJ in making sure that Hillary Clinton was never prosecuted.

00:04:48.000 Andy McCarthy, who's a pretty level-headed fellow, former federal prosecutor,

00:04:52.000 It's

00:05:23.000 The reason that this was troublesome to the Obama administration is, of course, Obama had been emailing with Hillary on this private server, and he knew that she was not using a government email address.

00:05:31.000 So he was implicated in all of this.

00:05:32.000 So here's the timeline, as laid out by Annie McCarthy, and it's pretty damning.

00:05:36.000 Two days after the New York Times broke the scandal about Hillary Clinton in March 2015, John Podesta, who was then an advisor to the president and head of Hillary's campaign, emailed Clinton confidant and top State Department aide Sheryl Mills to tell her that the email exchanges between Obama and Clinton should never be disclosed,

00:05:51.000 We're good to go.

00:06:13.000 Clinton campaign secretary, Josh Sherwin, emailed former White House Director of Communications, Jen Palmieri, and he wrote, Jen, you probably have more on this, but it looks like the POTUS said he just found out HRC was using her personal email when he saw it on the news.

00:06:25.000 And then Cheryl Mills emailed John Podesta saying, quote, we need to clean this up.

00:06:29.000 He has emails from her.

00:06:30.000 They do not say state.gov.

00:06:33.000 So what did Obama do?

00:06:34.000 Well, he had his email communications with Hillary Clinton sealed.

00:06:36.000 So he used the dubious presidential records privilege according to McCarthy.

00:06:40.000 The White House insisted that it had nothing to do with the content of the emails.

00:06:43.000 It was just to vindicate the principle of confidentiality, right?

00:06:45.000 They just wanted to keep things confidential for no reason.

00:06:48.000 For no reason, but it's important to keep things confidential.

00:06:50.000 That, of course, was nonsense.

00:06:51.000 They're trying to protect Obama from the implication that he knew that Hillary was misusing classified information.

00:06:57.000 And then, of course, eventually the FBI let Hillary Clinton off, that Clinton had not intended to harm national security. 0.99

00:07:06.000 In August 2017, a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray from Senator Chuck Grassley and Senator Lindsey Graham said, quote, according to unredacted portions of the transcripts, it appears that in April or early May of 2016, Mr. Comey had already decided he would issue a statement exonerating Secretary Clinton.

00:07:21.000 This was long before the FBI agents finished their work.

00:07:24.000 Mr. Comey even circulated an early draft statement to select members of senior FBI leadership.

00:07:28.000 The outcome of an investigation should not be prejudged while FBI agents are still hard at work trying to gather the facts.

00:07:35.000 And then, of course, a few weeks after all of that went down, Bill Clinton met with Loretta Lynch on a tarmac in Phoenix, Arizona for a private meeting.

00:07:41.000 McCarthy writes, quote, on July 1st, amid intense public criticism of her meeting with Bill Clinton, Attorney General Lynch piously announced she would accept whatever recommendations the FBI director and career prosecutors made about charging Clinton.

00:07:52.000 But of course she already knew at this time that the FBI was going to let all of this go.

00:07:56.000 Lisa Page, who is the paramour working at the FBI of Peter Strzok, also at the FBI and working on the Hillary investigation, texted Strzok, quote, this is a purposeful leak following the airplane snafu since Lynch already knows that no charges will be brought.

00:08:09.000 Finally, on July 5th, Comey held the press conference that started with him saying, quote, I have not coordinated or reviewed this statement in any way with the Department of Justice or any other part of the government.

00:08:17.000 They do not know what I am about to say.

00:08:20.000 That line from Comey was added after Lynch and Clinton met on the tarmac, and Strzok acknowledged this in a text-to-page on July 1st.

00:08:26.000 Lynch, timing not great, but whatever.

00:08:27.000 Wonder if that's why the coordination language added.

00:08:30.000 So in other words, it was very obvious that the FBI and the DOJ were coordinating to let Hillary Clinton off the hook before she was even interviewed.

00:08:36.000 All of this is devastating to the credibility of the FBI.

00:08:39.000 So when you wonder why it seems that there are so many people on the right who are out over their skis with regard to the FBI's investigation into President Trump and Trump-Russia collusion, the answer is their credibility has already been called into serious question because Obama already politicized the FBI.

00:08:56.000 Once the FBI has been politicized, it is fair game to say, was it politicized in order to get President Trump?

00:09:00.000 Because maybe it wasn't just politicized in order to defend Hillary Clinton and President Obama.

00:09:04.000 Maybe it was politicized in order to target President Trump.

00:09:07.000 So, now we have this narrative that's been set in the minds of people on the right.

00:09:11.000 The FBI is corrupt.

00:09:12.000 It was out to get Trump, and that's why something evil and terrible is happening right here.

00:09:16.000 On the other side, you have a narrative that's already been set in their minds.

00:09:19.000 Hillary Clinton never, under any normal circumstances, could have lost to President Trump.

00:09:22.000 That means that President Trump only won because Hillary Clinton was shafted by the Russians. 0.85

00:09:27.000 Therefore, Trump-Russia collusion must be real, and the FBI must be absolutely pure in every possible way.

00:09:33.000 Bob Mueller, pure.

00:09:34.000 Lisa Page, and struck.

00:09:36.000 Well, you know, if not pure, then at least they're trying to do the right thing.

00:09:39.000 And so you have these counter narratives and they're both based on what people wish were happening as opposed to what is actually happening.

00:09:45.000 So in just a second, I'm going to talk about what is actually happening and President Trump and President Trump saying that now he wants to testify in front of Robert Mueller and why that is a terrible idea.

00:09:54.000 We'll get to all that in just a second.

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00:10:57.000 Okay, so back to the Mueller investigation.

00:11:00.000 So yesterday, President Trump was asked about testifying in front of Robert Mueller.

00:11:04.000 I'm never sure how to pronounce his name.

00:11:06.000 I believe it's Mueller.

00:11:08.000 The question has come up because Mueller apparently wants to interview Trump himself.

00:11:12.000 The reason he wants to interview Trump is not on Trump-Russia collusion.

00:11:14.000 This is where Trump has it wrong.

00:11:16.000 Trump thinks that Mueller wants to ask him, did you cooperate with the Russians?

00:11:19.000 And then Trump thinks, well I'll say no, and then everything will be hunky-dory.

00:11:22.000 That's not what Mueller wants at all.

00:11:24.000 In just the same way that the FBI did not actually want Flynn to testify about Trump-Russia collusion, they just wanted to catch Flynn in a perjury trap.

00:11:33.000 They just wanted to catch him in a lying-to-the-FBI trap, an obstruction trap.

00:11:36.000 That's what Mueller is doing now.

00:11:37.000 He's trying to set up a pattern, or at least he's trying to find a pattern, whereby President Trump was personally involved in attempting to stifle the investigation into Trump-Russia collusion, even if the collusion never took place.

00:11:47.000 So understand, an obstruction charge does not mean there was an underlying crime.

00:11:52.000 You could obstruct justice without an underlying crime actually taking place.

00:11:55.000 This is sort of what happened with Bill Clinton.

00:11:57.000 Bill Clinton obstructed justice and was involved in perjury with regard to an affair that he had.

00:12:02.000 Not even with regard to an underlying crime like sexual harassment.

00:12:04.000 It was with regard to an affair.

00:12:06.000 He tried to obstruct justice and committed perjury and lied to the public about all of this.

00:12:10.000 That was good enough to get him impeached in the House.

00:12:12.000 Mueller is moving down the same path right now.

00:12:15.000 Regardless of Trump-Russia collusion, the idea is that Trump, whether he thinks he's innocent or not, it doesn't matter, if he is trying to pressure people into exonerating him without proper cause, and then he's firing people, the idea is that this is collusion.

00:12:26.000 I mean, that this is obstruction, rather.

00:12:28.000 Now, as I said yesterday, it's not actually legal obstruction.

00:12:30.000 Okay, legal obstruction is a very specific thing.

00:12:34.000 And we talked about all the statutes yesterday, so if you missed it, go back and listen to yesterday's show.

00:12:38.000 If you're talking about the generalized perception of obstruction, which could end in an impeachment charge by Democrats if they win back the House in 2018, that's what Mueller is setting up for, and that's why he wants to talk to Trump. 0.98

00:12:48.000 And that's why what Trump said yesterday is so foolish. 0.87

00:12:50.000 He was asked by the media, would you talk to Robert Mueller? 0.99

00:12:53.000 And here's what he had to say.

00:12:54.000 But I would love to do it.

00:12:55.000 Did you do it under oath, Mr. President?

00:12:57.000 Who said that?

00:12:59.000 I said that.

00:13:00.000 Did you do it under oath?

00:13:01.000 Oh, you said it.

00:13:01.000 You say a lot.

00:13:02.000 Did Hillary do it under oath? 1.00

00:13:05.000 I think you have an idea.

00:13:06.000 Don't you have an idea?

00:13:08.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:13:09.000 Do you not have an idea?

00:13:10.000 Do you really not have an idea?

00:13:12.000 I'll give you an idea.

00:13:13.000 She didn't do it under oath.

00:13:15.000 But I would do it under oath.

00:13:16.000 Listen, but I would do it.

00:13:18.000 And you know she didn't do it under oath, right?

00:13:20.000 If you didn't do it, if you didn't know about Hillary...

00:13:24.000 Okay, so here's one of the problems for President Trump.

00:13:25.000 He's always trying to outdo Hillary Clinton.

00:13:27.000 So he says, well, yeah, she talked to the FBI, but she didn't do it under oath.

00:13:30.000 I'll do it under oath.

00:13:31.000 Okay, a couple of things here.

00:13:32.000 One, lying to the FBI is a crime whether you're under oath or not.

00:13:34.000 You don't actually have to be under oath.

00:13:36.000 If you lie to the FBI, this is now considered obstruction, and you can be charged.

00:13:39.000 This is what happened to Mike Flynn.

00:13:40.000 He was not under oath when he lied to the FBI.

00:13:42.000 They are charging him with obstruction of justice anyway, and he could do up to five years in a federal pen for that, right?

00:13:48.000 So Trump should not go in front of Mueller.

00:13:50.000 The reason you shouldn't go in front of Mueller is you may have noticed that our president is rather fond of mailing off.

00:13:55.000 He's rather fond of making grandiose claims.

00:13:57.000 He's rather fond of saying things that may not be wholly true.

00:14:01.000 Well, if you step off the beaten path with Robert Mueller, you are going to get smacked.

00:14:05.000 Bill Clinton is a lawyer, and a pretty smart lawyer at that.

00:14:08.000 Bill Clinton got caught in obstruction charges by Ken Starr.

00:14:12.000 And Bill Clinton was very careful.

00:14:13.000 I mean, Bill Clinton was so careful that in that testimony in front of a grand jury, he was asked whether he is having an affair with Monica Lewinsky, and he said it depends on what the definition of is is, right?

00:14:23.000 Because he was trying to parse is.

00:14:24.000 He was saying, right now, I am not, but maybe before I did.

00:14:28.000 This was made fun of, obviously, but that was good lawyering by Bill Clinton.

00:14:31.000 Didn't matter.

00:14:31.000 He still ended up in an obstruction of justice charge.

00:14:34.000 The same thing has basically, could happen here with President Trump.

00:14:37.000 No lawyer worth his salt will allow Trump to get in a room with Mueller.

00:14:41.000 Trump should not get into a room with Mueller.

00:14:43.000 And that is not a defense of Trump being innocent on any of this stuff.

00:14:46.000 That's just saying if I were Trump's lawyer, there is no way in hell I allow President Trump to be in a room with a lawyer or without a lawyer.

00:14:53.000 I say to Robert Mueller, you submit to us written questions, and then we'll answer your written questions as we see fit.

00:14:59.000 That's what Trump should be doing.

00:15:00.000 Now, is it good for Trump to say he's willing to meet and that his lawyers are just stopping him?

00:15:03.000 Probably.

00:15:04.000 I think that it's probably good for Trump to say that. 0.63

00:15:06.000 But if Trump is taking this seriously and he actually wants to meet with Mueller, that would be ridiculous.

00:15:10.000 That would be a mistake.

00:15:11.000 I mean, you can see how this would be a mistake.

00:15:12.000 So he was asked yesterday by the press if he had asked Andrew McCabe, then the deputy FBI director, he was at that point the interim acting FBI director.

00:15:21.000 Did you ask McCabe who he voted for?

00:15:31.000 I don't think so.

00:15:32.000 No.

00:15:32.000 You don't think you did?

00:15:33.000 No, I don't think I did.

00:15:34.000 You did not.

00:15:34.000 I don't know what's the big deal with that, because I would ask you, who did you vote for?

00:15:40.000 I don't think it's a big deal, but I don't remember that.

00:15:43.000 I saw that this morning.

00:15:44.000 I don't remember asking him that question.

00:15:45.000 Okay, I don't remember asking him that question, and no, I didn't are two different answers.

00:15:49.000 So you could actually be charged with obstruction, theoretically, if you said, no, I didn't ask him that question, and then Andrew McCabe said, yes, you absolutely did ask me that question, and then Trump says, well, I don't remember.

00:15:58.000 Right, the original answer can be used in an obstruction charge.

00:16:00.000 This is part of the problem.

00:16:01.000 Because Trump talks a lot, he can get himself in serious trouble with the lawyers very, very easily.

00:16:06.000 No lawyer, including Joe Pesci and my cousin Vinny with the full-on clown velvet suit, would allow President Trump to get in a room with Robert Mueller. 1.00

00:16:13.000 It would be the height of stupidity to do this. 0.99

00:16:16.000 Now, as I say, and I said yesterday, I think we are on the verge of what could be a constitutional crisis. 0.99

00:16:20.000 If Robert Mueller decides to not indict Trump, because he can't really indict Trump for obstruction of justice, but simply to say, I see a case for obstruction of justice here, it could lead to a serious crisis where the right says, listen, it's not obstruction, you can't be impeached on a non-crime, and the left says,

00:16:34.000 All this stuff looks a lot like sort of commonplace obstruction, and there are no limits in the Constitution for what you can be impeached about.

00:16:40.000 And so you'll have the right defending bad behavior, and you'll have the left trying to condemn somebody or convict somebody based on non-criminal behavior.

00:16:46.000 Alan Dershowitz points this out yesterday.

00:16:48.000 Dershowitz is a more practiced lawyer than I am, but he and I come to the same conclusions on this one.

00:16:52.000 What do you think the investigation is now?

00:16:54.000 The investigative part, is it near the end?

00:16:57.000 Well, I worry that it's going toward obstruction of justice, and that would create a constitutional crisis.

00:17:03.000 The president were to be charged with obstruction for simply exercising his constitutional authority, firing Comey, telling Comey not to investigate Flint.

00:17:13.000 Those are all within the president's constitutional authority.

00:17:18.000 Okay, so Dershowitz is correct about this, and it could create a serious problem.

00:17:22.000 Now, with all of this floating around, as I say, there are two narratives that have been created.

00:17:25.000 Narrative number one, Mueller must get Trump because Trump is guilty of something, and if all he can get him on is obstruction of justice, then he is the righteous guy.

00:17:33.000 He's the knight in the shining armor on the white horse, riding in the deus ex machina, who's going to take Trump out of office.

00:17:39.000 This is the narrative from the left.

00:17:40.000 The narrative on the right is that the FBI and Mueller and all of them are corrupt, that they are thoroughly shot through with corruption, that they are all out to get President Trump.

00:17:48.000 Now, the leading edge of the spear here is, of course, Devin Nunes, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

00:17:53.000 And he has come forward with this four-page memo that supposedly summarizes all of the problems with FISA warrants and an intel gathering in the Trump-Russia collusion investigation.

00:18:03.000 The suggestion being that all of this investigation has been corrupt from the very beginning.

00:18:08.000 One of the suggestions in the document, presumably, is that the FISA warrant that was originally gathered on Trump foreign policy advisor Carter Page was gathered based on the so-called Steele dossier, the Fusion GPS dossier that was funded by Democrats and may have been filled with Russian disinformation.

00:18:22.000 The idea is that

00:18:23.000 Basically the DOJ and the FBI worked based on bad information to try and investigate Trump because the FBI is corrupt.

00:18:29.000 And this goes back to what I was saying earlier, the right believes that the FBI is corrupt and was corrupted by Obama because when it came to Hillary Clinton, they were.

00:18:36.000 So now Nunes is trying to put forth this memo.

00:18:39.000 And the DOJ is trying to get Nunes not to put forth the memo.

00:18:43.000 So what exactly is in the memo?

00:18:45.000 Well, we don't know yet until it's made public, but there's a problem.

00:18:48.000 The memo itself is a secondary concern.

00:18:50.000 It's written by a Republican.

00:18:52.000 The real question is, what is the underlying material undergirding the memo?

00:18:55.000 What is the classified material on which the memo is based?

00:18:58.000 And the DOJ is saying, and this is the stunning thing, the DOJ's Stephen Boyd sent a letter to Devin Nunes, and that letter says in it,

00:19:04.000 That's right.

00:19:24.000 Thank you.

00:19:40.000 We're good.

00:20:01.000 You understand that last part of that sentence?

00:20:02.000 The last part is the DOJ saying, you're writing a memo suggesting that FISA warrants are bad.

00:20:07.000 You're writing a memo suggesting the intel community is doing all these things wrong.

00:20:10.000 You haven't even seen the underlying document.

00:20:13.000 Which suggests that maybe, if that's true, that means that Republicans are basically slandering the FBI in an attempt to defend President Trump because they think that the FBI is corrupt and they're looking for evidence to back that contention.

00:20:24.000 So what we have from the right is the allegation that the FBI is filled with corruption from top to bottom, and what we have from the left is the contention that the Republicans are basically making this up in order to defend President Trump.

00:20:35.000 And on that line you have Dianne Feinstein, the senator from California, and Adam Schiff, who are putting together an alternative memo, an alternative memo that supposedly says the investigation is doing just fine, that everything is just great.

00:20:46.000 Now, the Republicans did themselves some real damage here.

00:20:49.000 And I'll explain why they did themselves some real damage to their narrative in just a second.

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00:22:34.000 This guy who's involved in exonerating Hillary Clinton and Lisa Page, his paramour.

00:22:38.000 Both Page and Strzok were married at the time, so these are just classy people all the way through.

00:22:42.000 In any case, they were sending texts to each other.

00:22:44.000 Thousands of text messages to each other.

00:22:46.000 Something like 50,000 text messages they sent to each other over the course of the last year.

00:22:52.000 Which is just insane, by the way.

00:22:53.000 I'm not sure I've ever sent 50,000 text messages to anyone.

00:22:56.000 I think so.

00:23:09.000 We're good to go.

00:23:34.000 Well, it turns out there was a major glitch that affected virtually all FBI phones, so the original reports that it was a glitch that affected just these specific emails was not really true.

00:23:42.000 In any case, they should be able to recover those.

00:23:43.000 They're working on recovering those now.

00:23:45.000 So before we jump to conspiracy inside the FBI to get rid of all the crucial text messages, we should wait to see if they can recover them. 0.99

00:23:52.000 Then, there is one thing that I just, I can't believe Republicans did this because it's intensely stupid. 0.95

00:23:57.000 And what this was, is that Republicans decided that they were going to make a big deal out of the secret society text. 0.98

00:24:02.000 So what was the secret society text?

00:24:03.000 We talked about it a little bit yesterday.

00:24:05.000 This was the allegation by Ron Johnson, Senator from Wisconsin, that there was a text message from Strzok to Page, or Page to Strzok, talking about a secret society within the FBI.

00:24:14.000 A secret society within the FBI that was going to take down Trump.

00:24:18.000 And we'd already had a message from Strzok to Page talking about an insurance policy against Trump becoming president.

00:24:23.000 That one's actually suspicious.

00:24:24.000 But the Secret Society, this line was repeated all over Fox News, it was repeated all over conservative talk radio.

00:24:30.000 The creation of a secret, nefarious society.

00:24:33.000 And the way that Republicans saw the Secret Society was like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

00:24:38.000 They thought that they were meeting down in some deep, dank cave and people were ripping people's hearts out.

00:24:42.000 Basically, when Peter Strzok and Lisa Page talked Secret Society at the FBI, it looked something like this.

00:24:48.000 Oh no!

00:25:11.000 And that's what was happening at the Secret Society, right?

00:25:13.000 Was Kali Ma, was happening at the Secret Society.

00:25:15.000 Now, what it turns out is that the Secret Society really wasn't that.

00:25:17.000 It looked a little bit more like this in reality.

00:25:33.000 That was the Secret Society.

00:25:34.000 It was actually Revenge of the Nerds.

00:25:35.000 It was not, in fact, Kali Ma.

00:25:37.000 It was just Revenge of the Nerds.

00:25:39.000 Also, that guy can't play violin.

00:25:41.000 That is a very poor imitation of someone playing violin.

00:25:42.000 In any case, it turns out the Secret Society texts were a bunch of nothing. 0.99

00:25:47.000 And Republicans made themselves look really foolish here. 0.61

00:25:49.000 Trey Gowdy, who's a very good congressman, Republican from South Carolina, here's what he had to say about the Secret Society texts yesterday. 0.93

00:25:55.000 It's right after they're lamenting the fact that Trump won North Carolina and that he won Florida and they're really disappointed in the way the election turned out and then about an inch down from that is a conversation about perhaps this is

00:26:11.000 Should be the first meeting of the secret society and then about two texts down they say let's talk about it with Andy.

00:26:17.000 I don't know if that's Andy McCabe and I'm not going to allege that it is, but it's eerily similar to what they said about the insurance policy.

00:26:23.000 By saying it right now you kind of are.

00:26:25.000 You're throwing it out into the ether.

00:26:27.000 Okay, so it's all about the Secret Society.

00:26:28.000 The Secret Society is something that we really have to be worried about.

00:26:31.000 Ooh, the Secret Society.

00:26:32.000 Well, unfortunately, we now have the actual text of the Secret Society text.

00:26:36.000 Okay, here's what it says.

00:26:37.000 Are you even going to give out your calendars?

00:26:38.000 Page wrote to Strzok in a text obtained by ABC.

00:26:41.000 Seems kind of depressing.

00:26:42.000 Maybe it should just be the first meeting of the Secret Society.

00:26:44.000 That's a joke, folks.

00:26:46.000 I text with my friends all the time and we talk about meeting of the protocols of the elders of Zion at our local synagogue.

00:26:52.000 Making fun of the idea.

00:26:53.000 The secret society is not an actual secret society.

00:26:56.000 They're not getting together to defeat President Trump.

00:26:57.000 Now that doesn't mean that there wasn't nefarious activity inside the FBI. 1.00

00:27:00.000 But when you go out on a limb, by using the phrase secret society over and over and over, and it turns out that it was likely a joke, you just make yourself look stupid. 0.99

00:27:07.000 You just make yourself look bad. 0.98

00:27:09.000 Speaking of looking bad, Representative Matt Gaetz is an American attorney and politician who's been the U.S.

00:27:15.000 Representative for Florida's first congressional district since 2017, according to Dr. Wikipedia.

00:27:20.000 And he was on with Chris Cuomo last night on CNN trying to make the case that there's corruption in the FBI.

00:27:26.000 Guys, if you're going to make the case that there's corruption in the FBI, please do a better job than this.

00:27:29.000 This is clip 14.

00:27:30.000 Because when you're making Chris Cuomo look good, you're doing something deeply wrong.

00:27:34.000 Here it is.

00:27:35.000 You say that this is the biggest coincidence since the immaculate conception.

00:27:41.000 What are you talking about?

00:27:42.000 The immaculate conception is not how Jesus was born.

00:27:46.000 It was the conception that's the nature of the immaculate conception.

00:27:49.000 No, it wasn't.

00:27:49.000 It was Mary's conception.

00:27:52.000 It was the mother's conception without original sin.

00:27:54.000 It was not the conception of Jesus.

00:27:57.000 Facts matter, Congressman.

00:27:59.000 If you're gonna make an analogy, at least know what you're talking about, because you gotta have a basis for these things.

00:28:03.000 You only know what you show.

00:28:05.000 You gotta release that memo, it's gotta have the facts, and you better figure out what this secret society is before you say that there's a shadow organization within the FBI.

00:28:14.000 Chris Cuomo may be thick as a block of wood, but at least he knows his Catholic catechism from Sunday school.

00:28:18.000 The bottom line is this.

00:28:19.000 If you're going to make serious allegations, then you should be able to support them, or wait for the evidence to come out.

00:28:24.000 So here's my suggestion on all of this.

00:28:26.000 Let's just wait for all the evidence to come out.

00:28:28.000 Is that so tough?

00:28:29.000 Could we do that?

00:28:30.000 How about just, like, wait for some evidence?

00:28:32.000 I know, I know.

00:28:32.000 I know we want to jump to conclusions, and we want to determine that the FBI was out to get Trump, or we want to determine that the FBI is completely clean and the Republicans are out to slander the FBI.

00:28:41.000 Don't worry.

00:28:42.000 We're going to find out what the story is.

00:28:43.000 Either there's going to be something here, or there's not going to be something here.

00:28:46.000 Either it's going to turn out that there was, in fact, a FISA application put on based on bad sources, or it's not.

00:28:52.000 And by the way, President Trump should release that FISA application.

00:28:54.000 I want all of this stuff released as soon as possible.

00:28:57.000 More public light is necessary now.

00:28:59.000 We need to see all of this material.

00:29:01.000 It is imperative that we see as much of this material as possible.

00:29:04.000 If we do not see this material, then the trust in our institutions is going to continue to decline in rather marked ways.

00:29:10.000 Which is going to be a continuing disturbing thing.

00:29:13.000 So please, how about we just wait for the evidence to come out?

00:29:16.000 Because it turns out a lot of propositions can be true at once.

00:29:18.000 It can be true that there are corrupt people inside the FBI, but that the FBI investigation may not be fully corrupted.

00:29:23.000 It can be true that there's no Trump-Russia collusion, but that obstruction took place.

00:29:27.000 Or that obstruction didn't take place, but Trump acted in ways that were bad.

00:29:30.000 It can be true that Hillary Clinton was exonerated by the FBI in corrupt fashion, but that the investigation into Trump is still legitimate.

00:29:38.000 Or it could be true vice versa.

00:29:39.000 We don't know.

00:29:40.000 We don't know.

00:29:41.000 We just don't know.

00:29:42.000 Okay?

00:29:43.000 And until we know, I'm going to hold off on saying that we know.

00:29:45.000 I'm not going to jump into this is worse than Watergate until we know whether it's worse than Watergate.

00:29:49.000 I'm not going to suggest that missing text messages, which may be recovered, are worse than 18 minutes of tape that are missing in the Watergate tapes, because I don't know.

00:29:56.000 You don't know.

00:29:56.000 Anyone who's telling you they know is lying to you.

00:29:59.000 No one knows anything at this point, which is why I'm trying to bring you all the news and sift through it and bring you what I think is actually happening.

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00:30:07.000 In the end, I'm not sure any of this goes anywhere.

00:30:09.000 It seems like much ado about nothing to me on all sides.

00:30:11.000 The FBI probably is not thoroughly corrupt.

00:30:14.000 Trump probably did not collude with Russia.

00:30:16.000 There probably was no obstruction of justice and this is all a giant waste of time and energy.

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00:32:33.000 Alrighty, so another big news.

00:32:34.000 There are a lot of people who are very hot and bothered about President Trump's statements on immigration.

00:32:37.000 So let's talk about what President Trump had to say about immigration.

00:32:40.000 I'm going to play you the clip of Trump talking to the press about an immigration deal that he thinks he's going to make with Democrats.

00:32:46.000 This is clip 15.

00:32:47.000 Trump talking about immigration with the press yesterday.

00:32:51.000 We want great border security.

00:32:53.000 We want to do a great job with DACA.

00:32:56.000 I think it's our issue.

00:32:57.000 I think it's a better issue for the Republicans and for the Democrats.

00:33:00.000 Do you want citizenship for DREAMers? 1.00

00:33:03.000 We're going to morph into it.

00:33:05.000 It's going to happen at some point in the future.

00:33:07.000 What does that mean?

00:33:09.000 Over a period of 10 to 12 years, somebody does a great job.

00:33:12.000 They've worked hard.

00:33:13.000 It gives incentive to do a great job, but they've worked hard.

00:33:17.000 They've done terrifically whether they have a little company or whether they work or whether whatever they're doing if they do a great job I think it's a nice thing to have the incentive of after a period of years being able to become a citizen We're looking at 10 or 12 Yeah, I might do that I might do that I'm not guaranteeing it because I don't want to do you know I want to put a little bit of a

00:33:43.000 But I certainly have the right to do that if I want.

00:33:46.000 Chain migration, we're gonna create a standard that's a good standard so that not everybody can, you know, not everybody that you ever met can come into the country. 1.00

00:33:56.000 Okay, so people are super, super angry.

00:33:57.000 How dare Trump say all of this?

00:33:59.000 This is obviously Trump going back on his campaign promises.

00:34:02.000 Now, lest you forget, Trump made a lot of promises during the campaign.

00:34:05.000 And a lot of those promises conflicted with one another.

00:34:07.000 We're going to take care of everybody.

00:34:09.000 It'll be an act of, I mean, he said a week ago, we're going to have a bill of love.

00:34:12.000 Trump says lots of stuff all the time.

00:34:14.000 But the truth is,

00:34:15.000 These dreamers are not going anywhere.

00:34:17.000 Let's be frank about this.

00:34:18.000 They're not going to be mass deported. 0.99

00:34:19.000 The idea that Trump was saying that during the campaign was always asinine. 0.93

00:34:22.000 People who believed that Trump was going to mass deport 800,000 people who were brought in here as children are fooling themselves. 0.70

00:34:27.000 It was never going to happen, and anyone who believed that was getting bamboozled.

00:34:31.000 As I was saying consistently during the campaign, because it wasn't true.

00:34:34.000 Trump was never going to throw all these people out.

00:34:36.000 He's not going to throw their parents out.

00:34:38.000 He's not going to deport 8 million illegal immigrants, as much as Ann Coulter would have wanted it.

00:34:41.000 It was never going to happen.

00:34:43.000 Breitbart, to its credit I will suggest, actually came out against Trump yesterday.

00:34:49.000 Because now that Bannon isn't there, I guess they don't have to lick Trump all the time.

00:34:52.000 So now they actually came out with a headline.

00:34:53.000 Here's what the headline said at Breitbart.

00:34:55.000 And, of course, these were his biggest sycophants, right?

00:34:58.000 They say, Immigration shock.

00:34:59.000 Amnesty Don suggests citizenship for illegal aliens.

00:35:01.000 So they're saying, Amnesty Don now.

00:35:04.000 Now, is Trump really talking about an amnesty?

00:35:06.000 Well, he is talking about an amnesty in the sense that these people will get citizenship after 10 to 12 years, but again,

00:35:11.000 That's the direction this was going to move anyway.

00:35:12.000 So the real question is, what does he get in return for that?

00:35:15.000 It was a foregone conclusion that these people were not going to be deported.

00:35:18.000 And when Trump says that he may reinstate DACA in March, what he's really saying is, I may just leave them here regardless of whether we come to any agreement.

00:35:26.000 What he's pushing for is what he's already said he's pushing for.

00:35:29.000 OK, what he is actually pushing for

00:35:32.000 Is an end to chain migration, except for parents who may or may not receive citizenship, according to Trump, we have no idea.

00:35:37.000 $25 billion for building the border wall, for 800 miles of the border wall, so not an entire border wall along 2,000 miles or anything like that, but $25 billion for building the border wall, and an end to the diversity visa lottery.

00:35:47.000 I thought that this was pretty much the deal that a lot of conservatives wanted.

00:35:50.000 And now he's being accused of a great betrayal on all of this because he's talking citizenship after 10-12 years for illegal immigrant children.

00:35:56.000 Now the parents should not get citizenship. 0.99

00:35:58.000 If they do get citizenship, it should be done based on a need basis. 0.70

00:36:03.000 My view on the Dreamers, by the way, is the same as with their parents.

00:36:05.000 We get to determine who enters the country and who does not. 0.93

00:36:07.000 Practically speaking, nobody's going to deport these kids or these young adults now.

00:36:11.000 It's not going to happen.

00:36:12.000 So they were always going to get citizenship.

00:36:14.000 Trump was always going to do it.

00:36:15.000 I'm sorry to break it to you, Anne.

00:36:17.000 That's just the way it was going to go.

00:36:19.000 All of that said, if Trump can get in return for that, an end to chain migration, money for the border wall, an end to the diversity visa lottery, those are pretty substantial steps in the right direction. 0.90

00:36:29.000 Those are pretty good steps.

00:36:30.000 In the right direction.

00:36:31.000 So this isn't really a bad deal unless Trump gives full amnesty to parents who have actually illegally crossed the border on a blanket basis, because then you're not talking about just the kids, you're talking about all of their parents and all of their relatives and all the rest of it.

00:36:41.000 That's something that we obviously need to prevent.

00:36:44.000 If you came across the border illegally, you should not be getting citizenship.

00:36:46.000 If you do get citizenship, it should be because you went to the back of the line and you waited just like everybody else, and we evaluated you using the same standards we would for legal immigrants. 0.95

00:36:55.000 But this idea that Trump has somehow betrayed the trust of his base, I don't really see that too much.

00:36:59.000 Now Trump did make a boo-boo in this interview.

00:37:02.000 You heard him at the very end say that he may reinstate DACA.

00:37:06.000 You heard him say that.

00:37:06.000 He said at one point that he may actually just leave people here.

00:37:11.000 He may reinstitute President Obama's executive amnesty.

00:37:14.000 That's a bad negotiation tactic.

00:37:15.000 Dirty little secret about Trump. 0.99

00:37:16.000 He's crappy at negotiation. 0.99

00:37:18.000 For all the talk about how great he is about dealmaking, he's not a great dealmaker. 0.94

00:37:21.000 The last time he tried to make a deal, he caved directly to Schumer and Pelosi and left Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell with their pants around their feet.

00:37:28.000 The fact is that he's not good at negotiation.

00:37:30.000 His opening bargain is basically, what do you want?

00:37:32.000 Maybe I can give it to you.

00:37:34.000 It's not a really good open negotiating stance.

00:37:36.000 He needs to pretend, at the very least, that he's going to deport a lot of people in order to force Democrats to the table.

00:37:41.000 Democrats feel no need to come to the table.

00:37:43.000 Instead, they believe that they can simply pillory Trump, and two things will happen.

00:37:47.000 Either Trump will listen to them, in which case they'll get what they want, or Trump won't listen to them, in which case they can continue to pillory him.

00:37:53.000 This is what Chuck Schumer was doing yesterday.

00:37:55.000 Here's the Senate Minority Leader suggesting that the Tea Party and Donald Trump, by extension, are just horribly anti-immigrant.

00:38:01.000 Well, first, the hard right has always opposed immigration.

00:38:04.000 Donald Trump ran on an anti-immigration platform.

00:38:07.000 The Tea Party's one of their fundamental values is anti-immigrant, which is horrible, disgusting, but that's who they are. 0.97

00:38:15.000 Okay, this is nonsense.

00:38:16.000 The Tea Party's value is not anti-immigrant.

00:38:18.000 The Tea Party was about government spending.

00:38:20.000 I'm not anti-immigrant.

00:38:21.000 I'm libertarian on immigration, actually, if there's no welfare state and if we're not talking about people voting.

00:38:26.000 The fact is that there's a wide variety of opinion within the Republican Party about immigration.

00:38:31.000 But the Democrats want to pillory Trump as such.

00:38:33.000 Trump's done a good job, I think, of avoiding that.

00:38:35.000 But when he says that there's no stick, right, I'm just going to reinstate DACA if Democrats don't do anything, Democrats win either way. 0.52

00:38:42.000 Either Trump doesn't reinstate DACA, in which case they get videos of him deporting people, or Trump does reinstate DACA, in which case they say, we got Trump to surrender without him gaining anything in the bargain.

00:38:52.000 Now that said, it is pretty obvious Democrats don't want to solve the problem and DREAMers are beginning to wake up to this. 0.83

00:38:57.000 A lot of illegal immigrant children are beginning to wake up to the fact that Democrats aren't actually interested in helping them here, they just want a posture on it.

00:39:03.000 Here's an angry DREAMer to Democrats saying, listen, we've been waiting for 17 years. 0.51

00:39:07.000 Why are you making us wait longer than this?

00:39:08.000 When there's a Republican president, a Republican Senate, a Republican House that are quite recalcitrant against DREAMers, you're not going to get it all at once. 0.99

00:39:17.000 For DACA recipients, the uncertainty is unsettling.

00:39:21.000 We've waited 17 years already.

00:39:24.000 We shouldn't be waiting any longer.

00:39:25.000 Okay, so they are getting pressure from their left.

00:39:28.000 I'm not sure it's enough for them to overcome the left's joy when Trump loses.

00:39:32.000 This is the nice thing about being on the left.

00:39:33.000 If you can do something that hurts Trump, then your base will forgive you for doing something that also hurts them.

00:39:39.000 This is a sad truth of politics.

00:39:41.000 Hurting your enemy is sometimes more important than pleasing your base with policies they actually like.

00:39:45.000 If we all worried about pleasing our base with policies that we actually like, we might actually get somewhere.

00:39:49.000 But politics is, unfortunately, a binary system.

00:39:52.000 If Chuck Schumer can slap Trump across the head, enough of his base will be happy for that.

00:39:55.000 They'll ignore the fact that the Dreamers will still end up in limbo.

00:39:59.000 Okay, one other quick note that I want to make.

00:40:01.000 So, Caitlin Collins is a commentator on CNN.

00:40:04.000 And Jake Tapper played an element from his show The Lead, in which Caitlin Collins suggests that men at work should never be dating women at work.

00:40:15.000 What I've said all along is that the left has no consistent standard as to what is appropriate in male-female relationships, and so now they're trying to backtrack and create this rather repressive and Victorian new standard as to how dating is supposed to go.

00:40:26.000 Here's Caitlin Collins doing that yesterday and being cheered for her trouble. 0.99

00:40:29.000 Why releasing this letter clears things up?

00:40:31.000 It doesn't.

00:40:32.000 It actually makes them worse.

00:40:33.000 It makes them look even more embarrassing and creepy and whatever.

00:40:37.000 And let this just be a message to all of the grown men out there that the younger women who work for you do not want to date you. 0.83

00:40:43.000 They do not want to be your soulmate.

00:40:44.000 They do not want to go to ice cream with you.

00:40:46.000 They do not want to be your partner.

00:40:47.000 And when they start dating someone else, you cannot get angry with them for that and try to pay them money to cover it up.

00:40:53.000 That is just a lesson.

00:40:54.000 I should not have to say that to people.

00:40:55.000 I'm a 25-year-old woman.

00:40:56.000 I shouldn't have to say that to anyone, that when a woman goes to work, they don't want to date their boss.

00:41:00.000 Okay, so let me be clear about this.

00:41:02.000 This is true for the vast majority of women who go to work. 1.00

00:41:04.000 It is not nearly true for all women who go to work.

00:41:07.000 The idea that women don't date their bosses at work is belied by most of human history.

00:41:11.000 If it were not for bosses marrying their secretaries in the 1950s, an entire generation of people would not exist.

00:41:18.000 How many people in this audience have met their wives at work?

00:41:21.000 How many men were in a position of superiority, in terms of the hierarchy at a company, over the people that they eventually married?

00:41:28.000 A lot.

00:41:29.000 Okay, just because a hierarchy exists doesn't mean that the woman is being forced to date the guy.

00:41:33.000 What we want to avoid is the man using pressure to date a woman. 0.98

00:41:36.000 But the idea that every woman may never be asked out on a date by her boss, that of course is asinine. 0.99

00:41:40.000 And to this effect, I will bring to your attention one Jimmy A. Kimmel. 0.90

00:41:44.000 I don't actually know his middle initial.

00:41:45.000 I will bring to your attention one Jimmy Kimmel.

00:41:47.000 Okay, Jimmy Kimmel is currently married to a woman named Molly McNearney.

00:41:50.000 Okay, Jimmy Kimmel was her boss.

00:41:53.000 She started on his show 10 years ago as a writer's assistant and rose through the ranks, and Jimmy eventually started dating her.

00:42:00.000 Right?

00:42:00.000 Eventually they started dating, and then they got married, and now they have a kid together.

00:42:05.000 She says, when I first met him, he insulted me.

00:42:07.000 The executive producer brought me into his office and said, this is Molly, she's my new assistant.

00:42:10.000 Jimmy barely looked up from his desk until my EP said she competes in triathlons. 1.00

00:42:14.000 And then Jimmy looked up at me and said, that is really stupid. 1.00

00:42:16.000 What a waste of time. 0.99

00:42:17.000 That was probably the first and only thing he said to me the entire first year of working there.

00:42:22.000 And then Glamour Magazine asks Jimmy Kimmel's wife, did you have any inclination early on this was a guy you'd eventually marry?

00:42:27.000 And Molly says, Jimmy gets a little insulted when I say this, but I never once thought of him that way or looked at him in that way.

00:42:30.000 I really didn't.

00:42:31.000 I had worked for him so long, and I was in a relationship, and he was in a relationship, so it never occurred to me.

00:42:35.000 And that's Workplace 101.

00:42:36.000 You don't date your boss.

00:42:38.000 Except for how she married him.

00:42:40.000 And it says, when did things turn romantic?

00:42:42.000 Four years ago.

00:42:43.000 All the writers would socialize after the show, and we'd just hang out more and more.

00:42:46.000 We really liked each other as friends, and then it kind of turned.

00:42:48.000 He cooked for me, and that was it.

00:42:49.000 It sealed the deal.

00:42:50.000 And she says, at one of our writers' meetings, because Jimmy is always thinking about food, he asked us what our five favorite foods were.

00:42:55.000 I listed mine, which were pizza, gnocchi pasta, a BLT, crab claws, and a cheeseburger.

00:43:01.000 Shortly after, he had invited me to his house, and I was very nervous.

00:43:03.000 I mean, this is my boss.

00:43:04.000 I was thinking, I gotta be careful here.

00:43:05.000 He opens the door, and the whole house smelled delicious.

00:43:07.000 I walked in and there was a pizza, a BLT, crab claws, cheeseburger, and gnocchi.

00:43:10.000 He had made them all from scratch.

00:43:12.000 I couldn't believe it, and I realized how incredibly thoughtful and generous he really was.

00:43:15.000 So, let me say something here.

00:43:17.000 If Jimmy Kimmel had invited this woman over, and she had not been into it, and had not wanted to marry him, the entire Me Too movement would be claiming that Jimmy Kimmel was responsible for sexual harassment and abuse of power.

00:43:26.000 She went there and married him, so now this is a great romantic story that gets retold in Glamour magazine.

00:43:31.000 My suggestion here is that there is no rational standard that is being held to.

00:43:34.000 It is not the end of the world if a boss invites a subordinate to a date.

00:43:38.000 It is the end of the world if the boss offers consequences for the subordinate not taking him up on the date.

00:43:44.000 Right?

00:43:44.000 It is exploitation if it's exploitation.

00:43:47.000 But it is not inherently exploitation for a boss to be asking a woman on a date.

00:43:51.000 And it just demonstrates that when you have a lack of moral foundation, you end up creating this bizarre set of rules that is more Victorian than I am.

00:43:58.000 It's nearly impossible to be more Victorian than I am on sex.

00:44:01.000 Yet somehow the left has accomplished this magnificent feat.

00:44:04.000 So that is where we are now.

00:44:06.000 Well, tomorrow I'll have a lot more to talk about.

00:44:08.000 Burger King has now joined the left-wing resistance and is actually putting out ads against net neutrality.

00:44:13.000 We'll talk about that tomorrow.

00:44:14.000 Plus, I have some thoughts on the Larry Nassar trial, but we will have to get to that tomorrow, so stick around for that.

00:44:20.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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