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00:00:00.000President Trump says he's ready for citizenship for Dreamers, the Mueller investigation heats up, and should bosses ever date their secretaries?
00:00:13.000So it's wild confusion, mass hysteria, cats living with dogs, the end of the world as we know it, apparently all of this about the Mueller investigation.
00:00:20.000I'm going to try and unpack everything that's going on here because I think you're hearing a lot of stuff that's not true from the right, you're hearing a lot of stuff that's not true from the left.
00:00:26.000Basically both sides have preconceived notions of how this narrative is supposed to go and they're shifting the facts in order to meet those narrative notions.
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00:03:14.000Literally millions of people over hundreds of generations.
00:03:17.000That's what's brought us to this point.
00:03:18.000And that's just, I think we should sit back and marvel a little bit at that.
00:03:21.000That this is the culture, the culture brought us here.
00:03:24.000I know that there are atheists out there who say it has nothing to do with culture, it has nothing to do with Judeo-Christian values, it has nothing to do with old-fashioned Greek reason and purpose-driven telos.
00:03:36.000The reason that you're able to sit on a plane and listen to Bach, right?
00:03:39.000The music of Bach, a religious man, on your iPhone, hundreds of years after Bach died.
00:03:44.000The reason that you're able to sit on a plane that takes you across the country in two hours, three hours, in a journey that used to take you weeks.
00:03:51.000This is all because of free market capitalism.
00:03:53.000It's all because there were people who felt driven to change the world because, yes, there was a religion that was dictating that it was important for them to change the world to make it better for other people.
00:04:01.000So, all of this is worth appreciating.
00:04:36.000I think that the conspiracy theories, however, are coming from a certain place.
00:04:39.000The place they are coming from is the place where we now know that the FBI was basically complicit with the Obama DOJ in making sure that Hillary Clinton was never prosecuted.
00:04:48.000Andy McCarthy, who's a pretty level-headed fellow, former federal prosecutor,
00:05:23.000The reason that this was troublesome to the Obama administration is, of course, Obama had been emailing with Hillary on this private server, and he knew that she was not using a government email address.
00:05:32.000So here's the timeline, as laid out by Annie McCarthy, and it's pretty damning.
00:05:36.000Two days after the New York Times broke the scandal about Hillary Clinton in March 2015, John Podesta, who was then an advisor to the president and head of Hillary's campaign, emailed Clinton confidant and top State Department aide Sheryl Mills to tell her that the email exchanges between Obama and Clinton should never be disclosed,
00:06:13.000Clinton campaign secretary, Josh Sherwin, emailed former White House Director of Communications, Jen Palmieri, and he wrote, Jen, you probably have more on this, but it looks like the POTUS said he just found out HRC was using her personal email when he saw it on the news.
00:06:25.000And then Cheryl Mills emailed John Podesta saying, quote, we need to clean this up.
00:06:51.000They're trying to protect Obama from the implication that he knew that Hillary was misusing classified information.
00:06:57.000And then, of course, eventually the FBI let Hillary Clinton off, that Clinton had not intended to harm national security.
00:07:06.000In August 2017, a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray from Senator Chuck Grassley and Senator Lindsey Graham said, quote, according to unredacted portions of the transcripts, it appears that in April or early May of 2016, Mr. Comey had already decided he would issue a statement exonerating Secretary Clinton.
00:07:21.000This was long before the FBI agents finished their work.
00:07:24.000Mr. Comey even circulated an early draft statement to select members of senior FBI leadership.
00:07:28.000The outcome of an investigation should not be prejudged while FBI agents are still hard at work trying to gather the facts.
00:07:35.000And then, of course, a few weeks after all of that went down, Bill Clinton met with Loretta Lynch on a tarmac in Phoenix, Arizona for a private meeting.
00:07:41.000McCarthy writes, quote, on July 1st, amid intense public criticism of her meeting with Bill Clinton, Attorney General Lynch piously announced she would accept whatever recommendations the FBI director and career prosecutors made about charging Clinton.
00:07:52.000But of course she already knew at this time that the FBI was going to let all of this go.
00:07:56.000Lisa Page, who is the paramour working at the FBI of Peter Strzok, also at the FBI and working on the Hillary investigation, texted Strzok, quote, this is a purposeful leak following the airplane snafu since Lynch already knows that no charges will be brought.
00:08:09.000Finally, on July 5th, Comey held the press conference that started with him saying, quote, I have not coordinated or reviewed this statement in any way with the Department of Justice or any other part of the government.
00:08:17.000They do not know what I am about to say.
00:08:20.000That line from Comey was added after Lynch and Clinton met on the tarmac, and Strzok acknowledged this in a text-to-page on July 1st.
00:08:26.000Lynch, timing not great, but whatever.
00:08:27.000Wonder if that's why the coordination language added.
00:08:30.000So in other words, it was very obvious that the FBI and the DOJ were coordinating to let Hillary Clinton off the hook before she was even interviewed.
00:08:36.000All of this is devastating to the credibility of the FBI.
00:08:39.000So when you wonder why it seems that there are so many people on the right who are out over their skis with regard to the FBI's investigation into President Trump and Trump-Russia collusion, the answer is their credibility has already been called into serious question because Obama already politicized the FBI.
00:08:56.000Once the FBI has been politicized, it is fair game to say, was it politicized in order to get President Trump?
00:09:00.000Because maybe it wasn't just politicized in order to defend Hillary Clinton and President Obama.
00:09:04.000Maybe it was politicized in order to target President Trump.
00:09:07.000So, now we have this narrative that's been set in the minds of people on the right.
00:09:36.000Well, you know, if not pure, then at least they're trying to do the right thing.
00:09:39.000And so you have these counter narratives and they're both based on what people wish were happening as opposed to what is actually happening.
00:09:45.000So in just a second, I'm going to talk about what is actually happening and President Trump and President Trump saying that now he wants to testify in front of Robert Mueller and why that is a terrible idea.
00:09:54.000We'll get to all that in just a second.
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00:11:24.000In just the same way that the FBI did not actually want Flynn to testify about Trump-Russia collusion, they just wanted to catch Flynn in a perjury trap.
00:11:33.000They just wanted to catch him in a lying-to-the-FBI trap, an obstruction trap.
00:11:37.000He's trying to set up a pattern, or at least he's trying to find a pattern, whereby President Trump was personally involved in attempting to stifle the investigation into Trump-Russia collusion, even if the collusion never took place.
00:11:47.000So understand, an obstruction charge does not mean there was an underlying crime.
00:11:52.000You could obstruct justice without an underlying crime actually taking place.
00:11:55.000This is sort of what happened with Bill Clinton.
00:11:57.000Bill Clinton obstructed justice and was involved in perjury with regard to an affair that he had.
00:12:02.000Not even with regard to an underlying crime like sexual harassment.
00:12:06.000He tried to obstruct justice and committed perjury and lied to the public about all of this.
00:12:10.000That was good enough to get him impeached in the House.
00:12:12.000Mueller is moving down the same path right now.
00:12:15.000Regardless of Trump-Russia collusion, the idea is that Trump, whether he thinks he's innocent or not, it doesn't matter, if he is trying to pressure people into exonerating him without proper cause, and then he's firing people, the idea is that this is collusion.
00:12:26.000I mean, that this is obstruction, rather.
00:12:28.000Now, as I said yesterday, it's not actually legal obstruction.
00:12:30.000Okay, legal obstruction is a very specific thing.
00:12:34.000And we talked about all the statutes yesterday, so if you missed it, go back and listen to yesterday's show.
00:12:38.000If you're talking about the generalized perception of obstruction, which could end in an impeachment charge by Democrats if they win back the House in 2018, that's what Mueller is setting up for, and that's why he wants to talk to Trump.
00:12:48.000And that's why what Trump said yesterday is so foolish.
00:12:50.000He was asked by the media, would you talk to Robert Mueller?
00:14:13.000I mean, Bill Clinton was so careful that in that testimony in front of a grand jury, he was asked whether he is having an affair with Monica Lewinsky, and he said it depends on what the definition of is is, right?
00:14:31.000He still ended up in an obstruction of justice charge.
00:14:34.000The same thing has basically, could happen here with President Trump.
00:14:37.000No lawyer worth his salt will allow Trump to get in a room with Mueller.
00:14:41.000Trump should not get into a room with Mueller.
00:14:43.000And that is not a defense of Trump being innocent on any of this stuff.
00:14:46.000That's just saying if I were Trump's lawyer, there is no way in hell I allow President Trump to be in a room with a lawyer or without a lawyer.
00:14:53.000I say to Robert Mueller, you submit to us written questions, and then we'll answer your written questions as we see fit.
00:15:11.000I mean, you can see how this would be a mistake.
00:15:12.000So he was asked yesterday by the press if he had asked Andrew McCabe, then the deputy FBI director, he was at that point the interim acting FBI director.
00:15:44.000I don't remember asking him that question.
00:15:45.000Okay, I don't remember asking him that question, and no, I didn't are two different answers.
00:15:49.000So you could actually be charged with obstruction, theoretically, if you said, no, I didn't ask him that question, and then Andrew McCabe said, yes, you absolutely did ask me that question, and then Trump says, well, I don't remember.
00:15:58.000Right, the original answer can be used in an obstruction charge.
00:16:01.000Because Trump talks a lot, he can get himself in serious trouble with the lawyers very, very easily.
00:16:06.000No lawyer, including Joe Pesci and my cousin Vinny with the full-on clown velvet suit, would allow President Trump to get in a room with Robert Mueller.
00:16:13.000It would be the height of stupidity to do this.
00:16:16.000Now, as I say, and I said yesterday, I think we are on the verge of what could be a constitutional crisis.
00:16:20.000If Robert Mueller decides to not indict Trump, because he can't really indict Trump for obstruction of justice, but simply to say, I see a case for obstruction of justice here, it could lead to a serious crisis where the right says, listen, it's not obstruction, you can't be impeached on a non-crime, and the left says,
00:16:34.000All this stuff looks a lot like sort of commonplace obstruction, and there are no limits in the Constitution for what you can be impeached about.
00:16:40.000And so you'll have the right defending bad behavior, and you'll have the left trying to condemn somebody or convict somebody based on non-criminal behavior.
00:16:46.000Alan Dershowitz points this out yesterday.
00:16:48.000Dershowitz is a more practiced lawyer than I am, but he and I come to the same conclusions on this one.
00:16:52.000What do you think the investigation is now?
00:16:54.000The investigative part, is it near the end?
00:16:57.000Well, I worry that it's going toward obstruction of justice, and that would create a constitutional crisis.
00:17:03.000The president were to be charged with obstruction for simply exercising his constitutional authority, firing Comey, telling Comey not to investigate Flint.
00:17:13.000Those are all within the president's constitutional authority.
00:17:18.000Okay, so Dershowitz is correct about this, and it could create a serious problem.
00:17:22.000Now, with all of this floating around, as I say, there are two narratives that have been created.
00:17:25.000Narrative number one, Mueller must get Trump because Trump is guilty of something, and if all he can get him on is obstruction of justice, then he is the righteous guy.
00:17:33.000He's the knight in the shining armor on the white horse, riding in the deus ex machina, who's going to take Trump out of office.
00:17:40.000The narrative on the right is that the FBI and Mueller and all of them are corrupt, that they are thoroughly shot through with corruption, that they are all out to get President Trump.
00:17:48.000Now, the leading edge of the spear here is, of course, Devin Nunes, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.
00:17:53.000And he has come forward with this four-page memo that supposedly summarizes all of the problems with FISA warrants and an intel gathering in the Trump-Russia collusion investigation.
00:18:03.000The suggestion being that all of this investigation has been corrupt from the very beginning.
00:18:08.000One of the suggestions in the document, presumably, is that the FISA warrant that was originally gathered on Trump foreign policy advisor Carter Page was gathered based on the so-called Steele dossier, the Fusion GPS dossier that was funded by Democrats and may have been filled with Russian disinformation.
00:18:23.000Basically the DOJ and the FBI worked based on bad information to try and investigate Trump because the FBI is corrupt.
00:18:29.000And this goes back to what I was saying earlier, the right believes that the FBI is corrupt and was corrupted by Obama because when it came to Hillary Clinton, they were.
00:18:36.000So now Nunes is trying to put forth this memo.
00:18:39.000And the DOJ is trying to get Nunes not to put forth the memo.
00:20:01.000You understand that last part of that sentence?
00:20:02.000The last part is the DOJ saying, you're writing a memo suggesting that FISA warrants are bad.
00:20:07.000You're writing a memo suggesting the intel community is doing all these things wrong.
00:20:10.000You haven't even seen the underlying document.
00:20:13.000Which suggests that maybe, if that's true, that means that Republicans are basically slandering the FBI in an attempt to defend President Trump because they think that the FBI is corrupt and they're looking for evidence to back that contention.
00:20:24.000So what we have from the right is the allegation that the FBI is filled with corruption from top to bottom, and what we have from the left is the contention that the Republicans are basically making this up in order to defend President Trump.
00:20:35.000And on that line you have Dianne Feinstein, the senator from California, and Adam Schiff, who are putting together an alternative memo, an alternative memo that supposedly says the investigation is doing just fine, that everything is just great.
00:20:46.000Now, the Republicans did themselves some real damage here.
00:20:49.000And I'll explain why they did themselves some real damage to their narrative in just a second.
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00:23:34.000Well, it turns out there was a major glitch that affected virtually all FBI phones, so the original reports that it was a glitch that affected just these specific emails was not really true.
00:23:42.000In any case, they should be able to recover those.
00:23:43.000They're working on recovering those now.
00:23:45.000So before we jump to conspiracy inside the FBI to get rid of all the crucial text messages, we should wait to see if they can recover them.
00:23:52.000Then, there is one thing that I just, I can't believe Republicans did this because it's intensely stupid.
00:23:57.000And what this was, is that Republicans decided that they were going to make a big deal out of the secret society text.
00:24:03.000We talked about it a little bit yesterday.
00:24:05.000This was the allegation by Ron Johnson, Senator from Wisconsin, that there was a text message from Strzok to Page, or Page to Strzok, talking about a secret society within the FBI.
00:24:14.000A secret society within the FBI that was going to take down Trump.
00:24:18.000And we'd already had a message from Strzok to Page talking about an insurance policy against Trump becoming president.
00:25:41.000That is a very poor imitation of someone playing violin.
00:25:42.000In any case, it turns out the Secret Society texts were a bunch of nothing.
00:25:47.000And Republicans made themselves look really foolish here.
00:25:49.000Trey Gowdy, who's a very good congressman, Republican from South Carolina, here's what he had to say about the Secret Society texts yesterday.
00:25:55.000It's right after they're lamenting the fact that Trump won North Carolina and that he won Florida and they're really disappointed in the way the election turned out and then about an inch down from that is a conversation about perhaps this is
00:26:11.000Should be the first meeting of the secret society and then about two texts down they say let's talk about it with Andy.
00:26:17.000I don't know if that's Andy McCabe and I'm not going to allege that it is, but it's eerily similar to what they said about the insurance policy.
00:26:23.000By saying it right now you kind of are.
00:26:25.000You're throwing it out into the ether.
00:26:27.000Okay, so it's all about the Secret Society.
00:26:28.000The Secret Society is something that we really have to be worried about.
00:26:53.000The secret society is not an actual secret society.
00:26:56.000They're not getting together to defeat President Trump.
00:26:57.000Now that doesn't mean that there wasn't nefarious activity inside the FBI.
00:27:00.000But when you go out on a limb, by using the phrase secret society over and over and over, and it turns out that it was likely a joke, you just make yourself look stupid.
00:28:05.000You gotta release that memo, it's gotta have the facts, and you better figure out what this secret society is before you say that there's a shadow organization within the FBI.
00:28:14.000Chris Cuomo may be thick as a block of wood, but at least he knows his Catholic catechism from Sunday school.
00:28:32.000I know we want to jump to conclusions, and we want to determine that the FBI was out to get Trump, or we want to determine that the FBI is completely clean and the Republicans are out to slander the FBI.
00:29:01.000It is imperative that we see as much of this material as possible.
00:29:04.000If we do not see this material, then the trust in our institutions is going to continue to decline in rather marked ways.
00:29:10.000Which is going to be a continuing disturbing thing.
00:29:13.000So please, how about we just wait for the evidence to come out?
00:29:16.000Because it turns out a lot of propositions can be true at once.
00:29:18.000It can be true that there are corrupt people inside the FBI, but that the FBI investigation may not be fully corrupted.
00:29:23.000It can be true that there's no Trump-Russia collusion, but that obstruction took place.
00:29:27.000Or that obstruction didn't take place, but Trump acted in ways that were bad.
00:29:30.000It can be true that Hillary Clinton was exonerated by the FBI in corrupt fashion, but that the investigation into Trump is still legitimate.
00:29:43.000And until we know, I'm going to hold off on saying that we know.
00:29:45.000I'm not going to jump into this is worse than Watergate until we know whether it's worse than Watergate.
00:29:49.000I'm not going to suggest that missing text messages, which may be recovered, are worse than 18 minutes of tape that are missing in the Watergate tapes, because I don't know.
00:29:56.000Anyone who's telling you they know is lying to you.
00:29:59.000No one knows anything at this point, which is why I'm trying to bring you all the news and sift through it and bring you what I think is actually happening.
00:30:07.000In the end, I'm not sure any of this goes anywhere.
00:30:09.000It seems like much ado about nothing to me on all sides.
00:30:11.000The FBI probably is not thoroughly corrupt.
00:30:14.000Trump probably did not collude with Russia.
00:30:16.000There probably was no obstruction of justice and this is all a giant waste of time and energy.
00:30:19.000If so, we have a reason to be pissed, but that's a different reason to be pissed than everybody is pissed off right now.
00:30:24.000So in just a second, I'm going to discuss whether President Trump has betrayed conservatives on immigration because there are some folks saying he has done so.
00:30:31.000I'm going to defend President Trump from those charges because I don't think that's exactly correct.
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00:30:46.000One of those live events is coming up on the State of the Union Day, right?
00:30:51.000We are going to be doing an extra long broadcast.
00:30:53.000Me, Andrew Klavan, Michael Knowles, Daily Wire God King Jeremy Boring.
00:30:57.000We're all going to be sitting around talking about the last year in politics, talking about what's happened, talking about what we expect from the State of the Union.
00:33:13.000It gives incentive to do a great job, but they've worked hard.
00:33:17.000They've done terrifically whether they have a little company or whether they work or whether whatever they're doing if they do a great job I think it's a nice thing to have the incentive of after a period of years being able to become a citizen We're looking at 10 or 12 Yeah, I might do that I might do that I'm not guaranteeing it because I don't want to do you know I want to put a little bit of a
00:33:43.000But I certainly have the right to do that if I want.
00:33:46.000Chain migration, we're gonna create a standard that's a good standard so that not everybody can, you know, not everybody that you ever met can come into the country.
00:33:56.000Okay, so people are super, super angry.
00:35:04.000Now, is Trump really talking about an amnesty?
00:35:06.000Well, he is talking about an amnesty in the sense that these people will get citizenship after 10 to 12 years, but again,
00:35:11.000That's the direction this was going to move anyway.
00:35:12.000So the real question is, what does he get in return for that?
00:35:15.000It was a foregone conclusion that these people were not going to be deported.
00:35:18.000And when Trump says that he may reinstate DACA in March, what he's really saying is, I may just leave them here regardless of whether we come to any agreement.
00:35:26.000What he's pushing for is what he's already said he's pushing for.
00:35:32.000Is an end to chain migration, except for parents who may or may not receive citizenship, according to Trump, we have no idea.
00:35:37.000$25 billion for building the border wall, for 800 miles of the border wall, so not an entire border wall along 2,000 miles or anything like that, but $25 billion for building the border wall, and an end to the diversity visa lottery.
00:35:47.000I thought that this was pretty much the deal that a lot of conservatives wanted.
00:35:50.000And now he's being accused of a great betrayal on all of this because he's talking citizenship after 10-12 years for illegal immigrant children.
00:35:56.000Now the parents should not get citizenship.
00:35:58.000If they do get citizenship, it should be done based on a need basis.
00:36:03.000My view on the Dreamers, by the way, is the same as with their parents.
00:36:05.000We get to determine who enters the country and who does not.
00:36:07.000Practically speaking, nobody's going to deport these kids or these young adults now.
00:36:17.000That's just the way it was going to go.
00:36:19.000All of that said, if Trump can get in return for that, an end to chain migration, money for the border wall, an end to the diversity visa lottery, those are pretty substantial steps in the right direction.
00:36:31.000So this isn't really a bad deal unless Trump gives full amnesty to parents who have actually illegally crossed the border on a blanket basis, because then you're not talking about just the kids, you're talking about all of their parents and all of their relatives and all the rest of it.
00:36:41.000That's something that we obviously need to prevent.
00:36:44.000If you came across the border illegally, you should not be getting citizenship.
00:36:46.000If you do get citizenship, it should be because you went to the back of the line and you waited just like everybody else, and we evaluated you using the same standards we would for legal immigrants.
00:36:55.000But this idea that Trump has somehow betrayed the trust of his base, I don't really see that too much.
00:36:59.000Now Trump did make a boo-boo in this interview.
00:37:02.000You heard him at the very end say that he may reinstate DACA.
00:37:18.000For all the talk about how great he is about dealmaking, he's not a great dealmaker.
00:37:21.000The last time he tried to make a deal, he caved directly to Schumer and Pelosi and left Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell with their pants around their feet.
00:37:28.000The fact is that he's not good at negotiation.
00:37:30.000His opening bargain is basically, what do you want?
00:37:34.000It's not a really good open negotiating stance.
00:37:36.000He needs to pretend, at the very least, that he's going to deport a lot of people in order to force Democrats to the table.
00:37:41.000Democrats feel no need to come to the table.
00:37:43.000Instead, they believe that they can simply pillory Trump, and two things will happen.
00:37:47.000Either Trump will listen to them, in which case they'll get what they want, or Trump won't listen to them, in which case they can continue to pillory him.
00:37:53.000This is what Chuck Schumer was doing yesterday.
00:37:55.000Here's the Senate Minority Leader suggesting that the Tea Party and Donald Trump, by extension, are just horribly anti-immigrant.
00:38:01.000Well, first, the hard right has always opposed immigration.
00:38:04.000Donald Trump ran on an anti-immigration platform.
00:38:07.000The Tea Party's one of their fundamental values is anti-immigrant, which is horrible, disgusting, but that's who they are.
00:38:21.000I'm libertarian on immigration, actually, if there's no welfare state and if we're not talking about people voting.
00:38:26.000The fact is that there's a wide variety of opinion within the Republican Party about immigration.
00:38:31.000But the Democrats want to pillory Trump as such.
00:38:33.000Trump's done a good job, I think, of avoiding that.
00:38:35.000But when he says that there's no stick, right, I'm just going to reinstate DACA if Democrats don't do anything, Democrats win either way.
00:38:42.000Either Trump doesn't reinstate DACA, in which case they get videos of him deporting people, or Trump does reinstate DACA, in which case they say, we got Trump to surrender without him gaining anything in the bargain.
00:38:52.000Now that said, it is pretty obvious Democrats don't want to solve the problem and DREAMers are beginning to wake up to this.
00:38:57.000A lot of illegal immigrant children are beginning to wake up to the fact that Democrats aren't actually interested in helping them here, they just want a posture on it.
00:39:03.000Here's an angry DREAMer to Democrats saying, listen, we've been waiting for 17 years.
00:39:07.000Why are you making us wait longer than this?
00:39:08.000When there's a Republican president, a Republican Senate, a Republican House that are quite recalcitrant against DREAMers, you're not going to get it all at once.
00:39:17.000For DACA recipients, the uncertainty is unsettling.
00:39:41.000Hurting your enemy is sometimes more important than pleasing your base with policies they actually like.
00:39:45.000If we all worried about pleasing our base with policies that we actually like, we might actually get somewhere.
00:39:49.000But politics is, unfortunately, a binary system.
00:39:52.000If Chuck Schumer can slap Trump across the head, enough of his base will be happy for that.
00:39:55.000They'll ignore the fact that the Dreamers will still end up in limbo.
00:39:59.000Okay, one other quick note that I want to make.
00:40:01.000So, Caitlin Collins is a commentator on CNN.
00:40:04.000And Jake Tapper played an element from his show The Lead, in which Caitlin Collins suggests that men at work should never be dating women at work.
00:40:15.000What I've said all along is that the left has no consistent standard as to what is appropriate in male-female relationships, and so now they're trying to backtrack and create this rather repressive and Victorian new standard as to how dating is supposed to go.
00:40:26.000Here's Caitlin Collins doing that yesterday and being cheered for her trouble.
00:40:29.000Why releasing this letter clears things up?
00:43:17.000If Jimmy Kimmel had invited this woman over, and she had not been into it, and had not wanted to marry him, the entire Me Too movement would be claiming that Jimmy Kimmel was responsible for sexual harassment and abuse of power.
00:43:26.000She went there and married him, so now this is a great romantic story that gets retold in Glamour magazine.
00:43:31.000My suggestion here is that there is no rational standard that is being held to.
00:43:34.000It is not the end of the world if a boss invites a subordinate to a date.
00:43:38.000It is the end of the world if the boss offers consequences for the subordinate not taking him up on the date.
00:43:44.000It is exploitation if it's exploitation.
00:43:47.000But it is not inherently exploitation for a boss to be asking a woman on a date.
00:43:51.000And it just demonstrates that when you have a lack of moral foundation, you end up creating this bizarre set of rules that is more Victorian than I am.
00:43:58.000It's nearly impossible to be more Victorian than I am on sex.
00:44:01.000Yet somehow the left has accomplished this magnificent feat.