The Ben Shapiro Show - July 18, 2024


IT'S HAPPENING: Dems Launch COUP Against Biden?!


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 7 minutes

Words per Minute

188.20203

Word Count

12,666

Sentence Count

989

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

The palace coup is on. Democrats are ready to toss Joe Biden off the back of the train. They are done with the old man, and they are leaking like a sieve. Plus, J.D. Vance makes his debut as the vice presidential nominee for the Republican Party. First, one thing is clear in the 2024 election, the fight for America s core values is more important than ever. The Daily Wire is on the front lines of that fight, and we can t win without you. Join us right now, while we re offering 47% off annual memberships. Use promo code FOREVER at checkout to get 47% all year long off your first month with discount code: FAKEFREEDAME. Second, a new segment called What's the Problem with Joe Biden? is launching in 2020? where we re asking the question: Is it time to pull the plug on the Old Man? And if so, what s the best way to do so? And what would you do if Joe Biden is no longer mentally fit to run for president? And who would be the best person to replace him? and who would you want to be Joe Biden s replacement? and why it s time for Joe Biden to step up to the plate and run for President in 2020 and take the reins? the White House? What s the worst thing Joe Biden could do? other than run for the job Joe Biden has ever done for the country? in 2020, and what s he s running for the party? The answer to Joe Biden needs to do to make a run at the presidency? to be the next Joe Biden in 2020 is more than Joe Biden or not Joe Biden ? And why he s not running for president, and why he should be running for President? Joe Biden should not run for anything other than anything else but except other people s than other than than that than anything else? or other candidates besides that besides other things Other words, Joe Biden does not have a clue what s than Joe s name what s going to do with his time in 2020 than that s the right thing to do in 2020 other than be Joe s ? and to do than to be a better than that? at this point in 2020 s the answer is probably not much more than


Transcript

00:00:00.000 All right, folks, the palace coup is on.
00:00:02.000 Democrats are ready to toss Joe Biden off the back of the train.
00:00:05.000 They are done with the old man and they are leaking like a sieve.
00:00:08.000 Plus, J.D.
00:00:09.000 Vance makes his debut as the vice presidential nominee for the Republican Party.
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00:00:27.000 So, Joe Biden has a serious problem on his hands from his own party at this point.
00:00:32.000 And it appeared for a moment there, like maybe the pressure on him to go was going to let up.
00:00:37.000 And now it is broken out full force into the open.
00:00:40.000 And that is because of all the polling data.
00:00:42.000 Apparently, according to the New York Times, Democratic leaders have come to their conversations with Joe Biden armed with grim new data.
00:00:48.000 According to a poll from Blue Rose Research, a firm that formed from but is no longer affiliated with Future Forward, which is the super PAC that supports Biden, just 18% of voters and 36% of people who voted for Biden in 2020 believe he is mentally fit and up to the job of being president.
00:01:04.000 Chuck Schumer, according to Democrats close to him, was given data from a leading Democratic super PAC showing Biden's deficit growing to five percentage points or more in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, and his deficit in three other key states, Nevada, Georgia, and Arizona, outside the margin of sampling errors.
00:01:19.000 The poll numbers are declining, and this necessitates it's time for a conversation about pulling the plug on Joe.
00:01:25.000 Now, let's be clear that at this point in the 2024 cycle, it is very clear that God's team, his writing team here, they're just throwing everything They're just throwing every plot point into that pot at this point.
00:01:36.000 They've got a stew going, and God's got that stew going.
00:01:38.000 He's got the cabinet, and every plot point in the cabinet is going into the stew at this point.
00:01:42.000 This is season eight of Game of Thrones.
00:01:44.000 God is tired of, like, dragging this thing out over the course of seasons.
00:01:49.000 And so no longer will it take two seasons to get from King's Landing all the way to the Frozen North.
00:01:53.000 Instead, we're gonna be there in five seconds flat with the dragons, because the plot points are coming fast and furious.
00:01:58.000 It's drinking from a fire hose.
00:02:00.000 In the last month alone, we had Joe Biden's full-scale collapse on stage in the debate.
00:02:05.000 We had two weeks of debate about whether he was going to go, including multiple bizarre interviews with the President of the United States.
00:02:12.000 We then had an assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
00:02:16.000 We then had Donald Trump's selection of vice presidential candidate.
00:02:19.000 And now, it turns out, Joe Biden has COVID.
00:02:22.000 Now, that's the least of his concerns.
00:02:24.000 His senility is the most of his concerns.
00:02:26.000 And when I say his senility, I mean, he is gone and everyone knows it.
00:02:28.000 We've all known it for years.
00:02:29.000 But now you're allowed to say it because it's so clear.
00:02:32.000 So, he did an interview with BET in which he was talking about his defense secretary, Lloyd Austin.
00:02:39.000 And he literally forgets the name of his own defense secretary and calls him the black guy.
00:02:45.000 That is a thing that is happening in real life, like, right now.
00:02:48.000 Here is Joe Biden.
00:02:51.000 And so, it's all about, it's all about treating people with dignity.
00:02:56.000 And it's about making sure that, look, I mean, for example, look at the heat I'm getting, because I, I named a, uh, the Secretary of Defense, the black man, I named Ketanji Brown, I mean, because of the people I've named.
00:03:12.000 The Secretary of Defense, the black man?
00:03:16.000 Well, I mean, was that his qualification or what?
00:03:20.000 Are we allowed to say that he's a DEI pick if Joe Biden says that he picked him for being a black man?
00:03:24.000 What are the rules at this point?
00:03:27.000 There is something wrong here, obviously.
00:03:29.000 But now, perhaps, they have finally the excuse to pull the plug on the old man.
00:03:33.000 They put him in hospice care, political hospice care, and now They're just having the intra-family debate about whether Joe Biden wants to live under these conditions, or his campaign wants to live under these conditions, or whether Joe really would want, in his living will, for the plug to be pulled.
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00:04:53.000 So in that same interview with BET, Joe Biden suggested a way out for Democrats, and that is that he would drop out if he had a medical issue.
00:05:02.000 Is there anything that you would look to, you personally, not anybody else, not other pundits, not even perhaps family members, that you would look to to say, if I see that, I will re-evaluate?
00:05:16.000 If there has some medical condition that emerged.
00:05:18.000 If somebody, if the doctors came to me and said, you got this problem, that problem.
00:05:23.000 Okay, well, we've seen a few problems from Joe Biden, like his inability to climb stairs, right?
00:05:28.000 This has been an ongoing battle.
00:05:29.000 It's like American Gladiator, Joe Biden trying to climb the stairs.
00:05:33.000 This is him literally yesterday trying to climb the stairs over in Nevada, I believe.
00:05:39.000 And it doesn't go well.
00:05:41.000 This is not, by the way, slowed down footage.
00:05:42.000 This is actual footage of him trying to climb stairs.
00:05:44.000 And for those who can't see, he is moving like the sloth from Zootopia.
00:05:57.000 He's barely moving.
00:05:59.000 Watch as he goes up these stairs.
00:06:01.000 He's taking these stairs like my 16 month old.
00:06:06.000 Like, legitimately.
00:06:07.000 Like, my goodness.
00:06:09.000 We didn't slow that down at all.
00:06:12.000 This is insane.
00:06:12.000 I'm sorry, this is all crazy.
00:06:14.000 He can't climb stairs.
00:06:15.000 And those were the short stairs.
00:06:17.000 And it still took him, like, eight minutes to climb those stairs.
00:06:19.000 Okay, well now, finally, they have their excuse.
00:06:22.000 Joe Biden has the deadliest disease known to mankind.
00:06:25.000 Joe Biden has it.
00:06:27.000 COVID.
00:06:28.000 Now, that's obviously very, very upsetting considering that the man is sextuple vaxxed at this point.
00:06:34.000 Half his body weight is made up of the vaccine at this point.
00:06:37.000 Nonetheless, the president tested positive for COVID-19 on Wednesday.
00:06:40.000 They are making him comfortable before deciding what to do with him, the Democratic Party.
00:06:45.000 He's experiencing mild symptoms, according to White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre.
00:06:49.000 Biden will be returning to Delaware, where he will self-isolate and will continue to carry out all his duties fully during that time.
00:06:54.000 What does that mean?
00:06:54.000 It means he's going to have the full weekend to decide whether or not he's going to go.
00:06:58.000 I will say I'm very much enjoying the spectacle of the media trying to square their prior statements about COVID with Joe Biden's behavior now that we know that he's had COVID.
00:07:06.000 So he's walking around, I mean, in that video, unmasked near other people.
00:07:09.000 And so Wolf Blitzer is like, where's his mask?
00:07:11.000 Where's his mask?
00:07:13.000 The religious adherents, they're out there shaming him.
00:07:15.000 They're shouting at him, shame, shame, where's the mask?
00:07:18.000 The president has received probably at least five doses of vaccine as a lot of us have.
00:07:25.000 And has also had the virus once and that has really all those elements
00:07:30.000 serve to increase his immunity. Plus, we also have Pax Libid now and we've already heard that
00:07:37.000 he's going to take a dose of that. Dr. Reiner, we're seeing live pictures
00:07:42.000 of the president boarding Air Force One right now. And what jumped out at me and I'm sure
00:07:47.000 to others as well, I didn't see him wearing a mask as he was with those other people on the tarmac.
00:07:53.000 there.
00:07:54.000 Oh, goodness gracious.
00:07:55.000 That's the big issue, is not wearing a mask.
00:07:56.000 Wolf Blitzer there, coming in from the ropes on that one.
00:07:59.000 Okay, but all of this is happening because there have been a bunch of meetings from top-level Democrats with Joe Biden telling him he needs to get out.
00:08:07.000 And the thing about these meetings is that they are now being put out there, clearly.
00:08:12.000 They're being put out.
00:08:13.000 First of all, this is the worst campaign.
00:08:14.000 I gotta say, this is the worst campaign I have ever seen in my life.
00:08:17.000 It's extraordinarily... It's like the...
00:08:20.000 There are no superlatives sufficient to describe how bad this campaign is.
00:08:24.000 Let me give you a quick example.
00:08:26.000 So the news breaks that Joe Biden has COVID.
00:08:28.000 And whoever the intern is, who runs his social media, put up the following tweet.
00:08:33.000 Okay, the tweet says, I'm sick.
00:08:36.000 That is his first tweet, I'm sick.
00:08:38.000 And then it is followed up with, of Elon Musk and his rich buddies trying to buy this election.
00:08:42.000 Okay, so the first tweet says, I'm sick.
00:08:44.000 And then the followup is that, Which, um, you think that's not going to go viral in precisely the wrong way?
00:08:50.000 Like, what the hell is wrong with your social media team?
00:08:53.000 It's crazy.
00:08:54.000 I put up a mock-up of Joe Biden's tweet.
00:08:59.000 And his first tweet says, I have stage 3 dementia.
00:09:01.000 And then the reply is, funding to complete if you re-elect me.
00:09:05.000 What are you doing?
00:09:06.000 What are you doing?
00:09:08.000 Well, maybe that's one of the reasons why, again, Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer are privately telling Joe Biden he needs to leave, he needs to go get out.
00:09:14.000 And here's the thing.
00:09:15.000 Joe Biden, his team keeps saying he won't leave.
00:09:17.000 So now, Schumer and Jeffries and Pelosi, they're all leaking.
00:09:20.000 They're leaking like a sieve.
00:09:22.000 They're leaking to the press, saying over and over publicly, they're trying to publicly shame him out of the race.
00:09:28.000 According to the Washington Post, Jeffries met with Biden on Thursday night at the White House.
00:09:32.000 Schumer met with him on Saturday in Rehoboth Beach.
00:09:35.000 In the meetings, the congressional leaders discussed their members' concerns that Biden could deprive them of majorities, giving Republicans a much easier path to push through legislation, according to four people briefed on the meetings who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the private talks.
00:09:47.000 In a separate one-on-one conversation, a person close to Biden told the president directly he should end his candidacy, saying that was the only way to preserve his legacy and save the country from another Trump term.
00:09:57.000 Biden responded, he adamantly disagreed with that opinion.
00:09:59.000 He's the best candidate to defeat Donald Trump.
00:10:01.000 The person spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a private conversation.
00:10:07.000 So, Schumer then released a statement saying, we have discussions, but I'm not going to say what we were talking about, which is a confirmation of the story.
00:10:15.000 Hakeem Jeffries did the same.
00:10:16.000 He said, well, I conveyed the feelings of our members to President Biden.
00:10:21.000 But it is not just Jeffries and Schumer.
00:10:25.000 Pelosi has been a driving force in all of this.
00:10:29.000 According to Politico, the developments underscore a new, more public phase of the Dump Biden movement.
00:10:34.000 It's an astonishing turn of events that puts Biden's presidential bid on life support.
00:10:37.000 With Democratic leaders like Pelosi, Schumer, and Jeffries against him, how can he possibly continue?
00:10:41.000 There is, in effect, no mistaking what party leaders are thinking now.
00:10:44.000 Schumer could have denied the exchange.
00:10:45.000 He did not.
00:10:46.000 Jeffries could have corrected it.
00:10:47.000 He did not.
00:10:48.000 And all week, as news about Pelosi working behind the scenes against Joe Biden trickled out, the former speaker could have taken to TV to firmly defend her longtime ally and friend.
00:10:55.000 She did not.
00:10:57.000 The flurry of leaks comes as Pelosi herself has coordinated with senior Democrats to try to push Biden out, cranking up the pressure on the president bit by bit in the hopes that he'll get the picture.
00:11:08.000 Politico says, we've covered Pelosi for a long time now, and can tell you her fingerprints are all over the knife.
00:11:13.000 Okay, man.
00:11:14.000 Woo!
00:11:15.000 The palace coup is upon us.
00:11:17.000 Meanwhile, Pelosi's allies on the Hill, including California Democratic representatives Adam Schiff, Mike Levin, and Jared Huffman, have coordinated with other members, organizing letters, advancing the conversation when needed.
00:11:27.000 There's nothing subtle about Nancy, another Pelosi ally, told Playbook.
00:11:32.000 Each time, the Dump Biden movement seemed to stall, it was Pelosi who personally took pains to help revive it.
00:11:38.000 We've covered Pelosi for years.
00:11:39.000 We know how she operates.
00:11:42.000 She and Schiff are wired in the same way.
00:11:44.000 They're so close that other House Democrats call them the California Mafia.
00:11:48.000 Why is that important?
00:11:48.000 Because Adam Schiff put out a statement just yesterday calling on Biden to quote-unquote pass the torch.
00:11:57.000 He said, Biden has been one of our most consequential presidents in our nation's history.
00:12:00.000 He said, our nation is at a crossroads.
00:12:01.000 A second Trump presidency will undermine the very foundation of our democracy.
00:12:05.000 I have serious concerns about whether the president can defeat Donald Trump in November.
00:12:08.000 He said, I believe it's time for him to pass the torch.
00:12:12.000 And he said he would support whomever ended up being the Democratic nominee.
00:12:16.000 Now again, that doesn't happen without Nancy Pelosi's express written consent, like a gilded invitation from Nancy Pelosi.
00:12:23.000 Two shift to go out there front and center and just say the thing.
00:12:29.000 So far, Biden, of course, has resisted this.
00:12:31.000 So far, Biden has said that he doesn't he doesn't want to do it.
00:12:34.000 He doesn't want to leave.
00:12:35.000 This is the best possibility against Donald Trump.
00:12:39.000 But the poll data is the poll data.
00:12:41.000 Jeffrey Katzenberg, who is one of Joe Biden's top fundraisers, apparently spoke with Biden in Las Vegas.
00:12:48.000 And Katzenberg traveled specifically there to tell him to drop out.
00:12:54.000 Senior campaign officials tell Deadline the meeting was routine on a number of matters as well as donors,
00:12:58.000 and nothing out of the ordinary occurred.
00:13:00.000 But you don't fly to Vegas to see the candidate you're giving
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00:14:22.000 And again, Bernie Sanders is doing the same thing.
00:14:25.000 Bernie did an interview with The New Yorker's Isaac Chautner And here is the exchange.
00:14:30.000 Chautner, when you yourself say you have concerns about whether Joe Biden would be able to finish the second term, I think it's hard to ask people to.
00:14:35.000 And then Sanders said, I didn't say that.
00:14:37.000 I did not.
00:14:37.000 I didn't say that.
00:14:38.000 And Chautner said, well, you said I have concerns about everything.
00:14:41.000 He said, well, don't.
00:14:42.000 Well, yeah, I am.
00:14:42.000 I am concerned about the existential threat of climate change.
00:14:49.000 Chatner says, you're not concerned about whether Joe Biden can be president in 2028, 2029?
00:14:53.000 You're not concerned about that?
00:14:55.000 And Sanders said, I'm concerned about a lot of things.
00:14:56.000 But yeah, Joe Biden will get elected.
00:14:58.000 If Joe Biden gets elected, everybody's health is in question.
00:15:02.000 And Chandra said, I would just say you're not being able to say this clearly is a reason people might have doubts about whether he should be the nominee and feel the party should choose someone who people feel confident can finish their term.
00:15:11.000 And Sanders said, you're doing exactly what I've been thinking.
00:15:14.000 If you want to make the case Biden is not the perfect candidate for a dozen different reasons, go ahead and you're right.
00:15:18.000 But tell me, you've got a better path forward?
00:15:20.000 I don't think you do.
00:15:22.000 So what Sanders is saying there is he is deeply afraid that Kamala Harris can do even worse.
00:15:27.000 But, but, we are now reaching a tipping point for Joe Biden.
00:15:31.000 Multiple media outlets now reporting that Joe Biden is seriously considering dropping out of the race.
00:15:36.000 He's been asking his aides whether they believe that Kamala Harris can win.
00:15:40.000 Now, if they're honest, the answer is probably not.
00:15:43.000 Poll numbers kind of suck.
00:15:45.000 I mean, like, she'll probably do better than Biden at this point, simply because the entire American public, outside of the immediate Biden family, One of whom is a crack addict, and the other of whom is the actual president, his wife.
00:15:58.000 They believe that he's, I guess, still okay.
00:16:00.000 And every other human being believes that he's gone, mentally, and he proves it every time he goes on the TVs.
00:16:08.000 But, and Kamala Harris is, you know, she's at least alive.
00:16:11.000 Like, she speaks words out of her, like, they're incompetent words.
00:16:15.000 They're stupid words.
00:16:16.000 They're circular words, but they are in fact words that come out of her face hole.
00:16:20.000 So she'll probably do better than Biden.
00:16:23.000 Whatever the case, Joe Biden is now clearly more open to leaving than he was, which, by the way, once that damn breaks, he's done.
00:16:29.000 So, here we are, July 18th, couple weeks to the Democratic Convention, and I'm gonna say he's toast.
00:16:37.000 I'm gonna say that Joe Biden's gonna crack and he's gonna go.
00:16:40.000 Here is CNN saying the thing.
00:16:43.000 I'm talking to a senior Democratic advisor tonight who is telling me this.
00:16:48.000 He said he believes the president is being, quote, more receptive to these calls of concern.
00:16:55.000 He goes on to say this.
00:16:56.000 The private conversations with the Hill are continuing, this advisor tells me.
00:17:01.000 He's being receptive, not as defiant as he is publicly.
00:17:06.000 Goes on to saying, talking about Vice President Kamala Harris, who initially he wondered how she may fare in a campaign should it come to that.
00:17:14.000 I'm told now he's asking questions saying, do you think Kamala can win?
00:17:19.000 Again, this advisor offers caution saying this, it is still unclear where he's going to land, but he seems to be listening.
00:17:29.000 Okay, again, the reason that he's listening is because the poll numbers really are quite bad for him.
00:17:33.000 They're really quite bad.
00:17:34.000 Okay, latest polls from Emerson in the swing states.
00:17:38.000 Pennsylvania, Trump plus 5.
00:17:39.000 Wisconsin, Trump plus 5.
00:17:40.000 Michigan, Trump plus 3.
00:17:42.000 Nevada, Trump plus 5.
00:17:43.000 North Carolina, Trump plus 7.
00:17:44.000 Georgia, Trump plus 6.
00:17:45.000 Arizona, Trump plus 7.
00:17:47.000 That same polling outfit did a sort of generic poll.
00:17:50.000 Younger Democrat.
00:17:51.000 Okay, Younger Democrat versus Trump.
00:17:53.000 Now again, generic candidate always does better than real person.
00:17:56.000 Because everybody can create their fantasy candidate in their head.
00:17:59.000 So there's no way that Kamala Harris does these numbers.
00:18:01.000 But these are the numbers that people are looking at when they say it can be anyone else.
00:18:04.000 It's also the numbers they're looking at when, as we'll see, some are calling for an open convention.
00:18:09.000 Emerson says, younger Democrat versus Trump.
00:18:11.000 Pennsylvania, Democrat plus six.
00:18:13.000 Wisconsin, Democrat plus eight.
00:18:14.000 Michigan, Democrat plus ten.
00:18:15.000 Nevada, Democrat plus eight.
00:18:17.000 North Carolina, Democrat plus two.
00:18:18.000 Georgia, Democrat plus ten.
00:18:19.000 Arizona, Democrat plus six.
00:18:21.000 By the way, these numbers should remind Republicans this election is far from over.
00:18:25.000 I understand that everybody is very triumphal at this point.
00:18:28.000 And listen, Donald Trump is the odds-on favorite to be the president of the United States by all the data at this point.
00:18:34.000 But you can't let up.
00:18:35.000 Especially because in two weeks' time, Donald Trump may not be running against Joe Biden anymore.
00:18:41.000 That may be a thing of the past.
00:18:43.000 And again, given the fact that we are now in season eight of Trump, and God's writers are pouring out every plot point, I would bet my money on Biden being out of this race in the next two weeks.
00:18:53.000 And if that happens, This race gets upended.
00:18:56.000 A lot of calculations shift.
00:18:59.000 Doesn't mean that Trump isn't still the favorite.
00:19:01.000 It does mean you're going to have to game out an entirely new strategy.
00:19:04.000 You assume that Kamala Harris would be the person who replaces him, but not necessarily.
00:19:09.000 And a lot of Democrats are looking at these polling numbers and they're saying, well, what if he just threw it up in the air?
00:19:13.000 What if Biden just decided, you know what?
00:19:16.000 I'm throwing this thing up in the air.
00:19:18.000 I don't care about Kamala Harris.
00:19:20.000 The whole reason I'm getting out is so that we win.
00:19:22.000 Open convention.
00:19:23.000 First of all, it'll be the most fascinating political occurrence of our lifetime.
00:19:27.000 Just, we haven't had an open convention in American politics since like 1952, maybe?
00:19:32.000 Like a true open convention?
00:19:35.000 So, it would be amazing to watch.
00:19:38.000 If, by the way, if Biden were actually smart, and he actually cared about winning, he would announce that he is stepping down from the race tonight, right?
00:19:45.000 He would do it before Trump's speech.
00:19:46.000 He would eat up all the attention around Trump.
00:19:48.000 All of a sudden, the camera would swivel back into the Democratic Party, and it would become an odds-on fight in terms of, like, who becomes the nominee.
00:19:57.000 Now, there's some people who are suggesting that it has to be Kamala Harris, because if it's not Kamala Harris, the Black community will be so darn angry, they just won't turn out.
00:20:06.000 What if it's Wes Moore from Maryland, who is black?
00:20:11.000 And there's that.
00:20:12.000 What if it turns out that Kamala Harris isn't that popular with black voters?
00:20:15.000 Which is the reason why Joe Biden skunked her in 2020.
00:20:19.000 You'll remember, Kamala Harris was a presidential primary candidate in 2020.
00:20:23.000 Go check out, by the way, our three-part series on Kamala Harris called Scamala over at Daily Wire+.
00:20:28.000 Check it out right now so you have all the details on Kamala, who is, you know, at least a 50% shot at this point to be the Democratic nominee.
00:20:35.000 But Democrats are apparently trying to force Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, who is very competent and very articulate, into the race.
00:20:43.000 They're hoping that he would join on to say a Kamala Harris ticket, so it'd be like Harris Shapiro, not me.
00:20:47.000 Josh Shapiro, the Democrat from Pennsylvania.
00:20:51.000 There are a lot of thoughts in the Democratic Party, but it is chaos over there.
00:20:55.000 And the knives are out.
00:20:56.000 And Pelosi and Schumer and Jeffries and all the rest.
00:21:00.000 It's a tout brut moment. Julius Caesar is down. The knives are in him and it was only a matter now
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00:22:15.000 The Trump campaign hilariously is acknowledging the obvious.
00:22:19.000 So apparently, Kamala Harris agreed to three potential debate dates with Senator J.D.
00:22:25.000 Vance, who of course is the vice presidential nominee for the Republicans.
00:22:29.000 The Trump campaign immediately responded, quote, We don't know who the Democrat nominee for vice president is going to be.
00:22:34.000 We can't lock in a date before their convention.
00:22:36.000 To do so would be unfair to Gavin Newsom, J.B.
00:22:38.000 Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, or whomever Kamala Harris picks as her running mate.
00:22:42.000 Okay, like everybody acknowledges this at this point.
00:22:46.000 So again, the death of Joe Biden's candidacy is a huge story.
00:22:51.000 Obviously, it's the biggest political story of our lifetimes.
00:22:54.000 We've never seen a sitting president simply drop out of the race.
00:22:59.000 Certainly not since LBJ, obviously.
00:23:01.000 And not in a term where, again, he has like another full term to go.
00:23:07.000 He's three years in.
00:23:08.000 LBJ assumed the mantle in 1963.
00:23:12.000 And then he didn't give up the mantle until 1969, right?
00:23:17.000 That's when he left office.
00:23:18.000 Here, Joe Biden has been president for like three years, three and a half years, and he's already giving up the mantle.
00:23:23.000 So it's pretty unprecedented what we are watching right now with Joe Biden.
00:23:27.000 And again, I'm just urging Republicans, don't sleep on this election.
00:23:31.000 Don't think this thing is all wrapped up.
00:23:33.000 It is only July.
00:23:34.000 This is not October.
00:23:36.000 Despite the fact that Donald Trump has had the best political month of any presidential candidate that I can remember, In the polling data, he is currently beating Joe Biden on average by two and a half points, and he is polling at 47%.
00:23:48.000 If you're up around 52%, 53%, I would say the election is over.
00:23:52.000 At 47%, the election is not over, not with a new candidate for the Democrats possibly in play.
00:23:59.000 Which means all of the traditional calculations have to be back in play for Republicans.
00:24:04.000 What is your voter turnout operation like?
00:24:06.000 Who is doing it?
00:24:08.000 How strong is that going to be?
00:24:12.000 All the fundamentals still apply.
00:24:15.000 Donald Trump is a candidate.
00:24:16.000 He's more Teflon than any candidate of our lifetime, including Ronald Reagan.
00:24:19.000 But that doesn't mean he can defy the laws of political gravity.
00:24:23.000 Which again, is not to be a downer, it's to be realistic and to urge everybody to get out and get active if you want Donald Trump to be the next president of the United States.
00:24:30.000 Okay, over on the other side of the coin, RNC night three was last night.
00:24:35.000 Democrats, again, still in a state of outright despair.
00:24:39.000 Van Jones, who obviously is on the Democratic side of the aisle, he was on CNN last night and he was noting the obvious differential in momentum between the two parties.
00:24:50.000 A bullet couldn't stop Trump.
00:24:53.000 He's not wrong about any of that.
00:24:55.000 You've got the nominees of this party getting their butts kissed.
00:25:00.000 Biden's getting his butt kicked by his own party.
00:25:04.000 The Democrats are coming apart.
00:25:07.000 The Republicans are coming together.
00:25:09.000 He is not wrong about any of that.
00:25:14.000 He's not wrong about any of that.
00:25:16.000 So the RNC last night was very much about the introduction of JDV.
00:25:22.000 Vance, but more importantly, this entire RNC has been about presenting a permission structure for people who have not traditionally voted Republican to vote Republican.
00:25:30.000 That's what the entire thing is about.
00:25:32.000 And so, the RNC Night 3 has been very well produced, it's been very well crafted, it's done an excellent job of creating a speakers list, and RNC Night 3 sort of broke down into three categories.
00:25:43.000 Category one was the Trump family.
00:25:45.000 So, that included Kai Madison Trump, who is Donald Trump's granddaughter, Don Trump Jr.' 's daughter.
00:25:53.000 Here she was speaking on her grandfather, it was quite heartwarming, it was very nice.
00:25:57.000 Even when he's going through all these court cases, he always asks me how I'm doing.
00:26:02.000 A lot of people have put my grandpa through hell, and he's still standing.
00:26:07.000 The media makes my grandpa seem like a different person, but I know him for who he is.
00:26:14.000 He's very caring and loving.
00:26:16.000 He truly wants the best for this country, and he will fight every single day to make America great again.
00:26:23.000 I mean, it's very nice, obviously.
00:26:27.000 Don Trump Jr.
00:26:28.000 also spoke at the convention last night.
00:26:30.000 His speech, of course, Don Trump Jr.
00:26:31.000 is a very fiery guy, and his speech was a rabble-rousing speech for sure.
00:26:36.000 They've turned criminals into victims, prosecutors into criminal defense attorneys, and police into public enemies.
00:26:47.000 Left-wing activists are pretending to be educators, teaching our kids that there are 57 genders, but they can't even define what a woman is.
00:26:56.000 On one hand, they think free speech protects their right to expose your children to explicit drag shows.
00:27:04.000 On the other hand, they want to put you in jail for making a meme.
00:27:09.000 It's like the entire world has been turned upside down.
00:27:14.000 The Trump family reunion, obviously.
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00:28:21.000 Okay, the actual centerpiece of the RNC last night.
00:28:25.000 The true highlights.
00:28:26.000 And again, we'll get to J.D.
00:28:27.000 Vance, whose speech was fascinating in a variety of ways.
00:28:30.000 But the true highlights of the night were the everyday American stories.
00:28:33.000 And this is what the RNC has been doing brilliantly.
00:28:35.000 So that was true of night two as well.
00:28:37.000 Getting everyday Americans to talk about their plight under Joe Biden is the story because it, again, swivels the focus to the Biden administration's incompetence.
00:28:46.000 And yeah, again, I'm looking at the Pennsylvania Senate race from 2022.
00:28:50.000 In that Pennsylvania Senate race, John Fetterman, who had suffered an actual debilitating stroke, was running against Mehmet Oz.
00:28:56.000 And the Republicans focused all of their focus and their ire not on Fetterman's, at that time, political radicalism.
00:29:04.000 He's since been actually a pretty moderate voice in the Senate and excellent on some issues like Israel.
00:29:08.000 But at that time, he was perceived broadly as sort of a radical socialist type, John Fetterman.
00:29:13.000 Instead of focusing their ire on his policies, they focused their ire on the fact that he had a stroke, and then he won.
00:29:19.000 And so, what Republicans have to do, if Joe Biden were to stay in the race, or whoever is in the race, is point out that this administration sucks.
00:29:25.000 This administration is terrible.
00:29:27.000 This administration's policies have harmed countless Americans.
00:29:31.000 And so, the most effective parts of the RNC have been the parts where everyday Americans talk about their experiences under Joe Biden.
00:29:40.000 So a bunch of everyday sort of American heroes were brought out.
00:29:43.000 That included, for example, the UNC frat boys.
00:29:46.000 So there'd been this wide spate of pro-Hamas protests all across the country, including violence, including trespass, including vandalism and all the rest.
00:29:55.000 And you'll remember, because we played it on the show, the video of the UNC frat boys who showed up at a pro-Hamas protest carrying, they stopped the American flag from being desecrated.
00:30:07.000 They were brought forth at the RNC.
00:30:08.000 It was a pretty awesome moment.
00:30:11.000 When a mob tried to take down the American flag on our campus, we knew we couldn't let that happen.
00:30:18.000 We stood guard, we held it up, and we did not let it fall.
00:30:26.000 It was all about respect.
00:30:29.000 Not just for the cloth, but for everything that the flag stands for.
00:30:34.000 Too many people have sacrificed everything for it.
00:30:39.000 The least we can do was keep it flying.
00:30:42.000 And tonight, we are proud to honor our flag again.
00:30:48.000 I mean, it's good stuff.
00:30:51.000 It's just good patriotic stuff.
00:30:54.000 I will say that the crowd at the RNC, the RNC is also doing an extraordinarily moving job of reminding everybody there's still five American hostages being held in the Gaza Strip by Hamas while Joe Biden continues to pussyfoot around Iran and clear the way for them to get cash.
00:31:13.000 A hostage family spoke.
00:31:15.000 This is the family of one of the American hostages being held.
00:31:17.000 And the crowd started chanting, bring them home.
00:31:19.000 You're not going to see this at the DNC.
00:31:21.000 I promise you'll see Palestinian flags at the DNC.
00:31:25.000 Our son, Omer, is an American citizen.
00:31:31.000 For 285 long days and nights, Hamas terrorists have been holding Omer in prison in tunnels underneath Gaza.
00:31:43.000 Imagine!
00:31:45.000 Over nine months, not knowing whether your son is alive, waking up every morning, praying that he, too, is still waking up every morning, that he is strong and is surviving.
00:32:00.000 Bring them home. Bring them home.
00:32:06.000 Bring them home.
00:32:09.000 Okay. Again. I'm.
00:32:13.000 Amazing stuff there at the RNC.
00:32:16.000 One of the other speakers, Shabbos Kastenbaum.
00:32:18.000 So I know Shabbos.
00:32:19.000 Really, really nice guy.
00:32:20.000 He's a Harvard student.
00:32:22.000 He's currently suing Harvard for discrimination on the basis of Civil Rights Act violations.
00:32:29.000 Shabbos is not a right-winger by any stretch of the imagination.
00:32:31.000 As he said in his speech, in 2016 he voted for Bernie Sanders.
00:32:34.000 And the left has completely abandoned Jews in the United States, and they've abandoned American values.
00:32:39.000 That was the point Shabbos was making.
00:32:40.000 And there's a permission structure for people who aren't traditional Republicans to vote Republican in this year's election.
00:32:46.000 The anti-Semitic bigotry, unfortunately, extends far beyond the universities.
00:32:53.000 Although I once voted for Bernie Sanders, I now recognize that the far left has not only abandoned the Jewish people, but the American people.
00:33:04.000 The Democratic Party, the party I registered to vote for the day I turned 18, has become ideologically poisoned.
00:33:14.000 And it is this poison, it is this corruption, that is infecting far too many young American students.
00:33:22.000 Let's be clear.
00:33:24.000 The far left anti-semitic extremism has no virtue and the radicalism on our campuses and on our streets has no moral legitimacy.
00:33:37.000 Again, the point of all this for the RNC is bring people up there who aren't traditional Republicans and let them talk.
00:33:43.000 And then Bring up the most moving moments of the night, clearly.
00:33:48.000 There were two really moving moments of the night.
00:33:51.000 First, a World War II veteran who is 98 years old got up and talked to the convention.
00:33:55.000 And it's just, I mean, astounding.
00:33:56.000 First of all, this guy is significantly more with it than the current president of the United States, and he's 98 years old.
00:34:03.000 It really is kind of an amazing thing.
00:34:04.000 His name is William Peckerell, and he was speaking about America.
00:34:08.000 And if you weren't moved, honestly, I'm not sure that you have the capacity to be moved if you weren't moved by this, And President Trump, back in Commander-in-Chief, I would go back to re-enlist today.
00:34:25.000 And I would storm whatever beach my country wanted me to.
00:34:36.000 Yeah, but by far the most moving and effective moment of the night, however, was the gold star families.
00:34:42.000 So gold star families came forth, and these are the gold star families of The soldiers who were killed in Afghanistan during the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan, which, by the way, was the turning point of the Biden presidency.
00:34:56.000 You can look at the poll numbers.
00:34:57.000 He dropped into negatives because he surrendered in Afghanistan to the world's worst human beings and got 13 American soldiers killed in the process and left tens of thousands of people who had allied themselves with America behind to be slaughtered by the Taliban.
00:35:10.000 It destroyed his presidency, really.
00:35:13.000 And then he had the temerity to go on that debate with Donald Trump and not only not mention any of the soldiers who had died at Abbey Gate, but to pretend that no soldiers had died on his watch, which is a lie.
00:35:26.000 It is not true.
00:35:28.000 So we'll get to the most moving moment of the night in just a moment, because it really was an amazing, amazing thing.
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00:36:24.000 And so, the most moving moment of the night, last night at the RNC, was the segment about Gold Star Families.
00:36:30.000 So, the RNC put out a video, and they put it up on the big screen, obviously, of Gold Star Families from Abbey Gate, talking about how their kids had died at Abbey Gate, and how Joe Biden had basically sold them out.
00:36:42.000 Here's some of the video.
00:36:44.000 I'm talking to people.
00:36:45.000 I'm calling his girlfriend.
00:36:46.000 I'm saying, well, have you heard from him?
00:36:47.000 I'm calling his sisters.
00:36:49.000 Have you heard from him?
00:36:51.000 You know, we're texting.
00:36:52.000 We're saying, please, just send us a text.
00:36:54.000 Just whatever.
00:36:56.000 Just let us know that you're OK.
00:36:58.000 When all the explosions went off, I had messaged her, and I said, hey, you know, I know you can't say anything, but, you know, just an emoji.
00:37:05.000 Just a bubble.
00:37:07.000 And then, 3.30 in the morning that night, Um, I got the knock on the door.
00:37:17.000 You know, there's no other reason two Marines are standing on your door.
00:37:21.000 Right away, they told you.
00:37:24.000 We have news about your son, and he just passed away.
00:37:32.000 I just start screaming.
00:37:33.000 I throw myself on the floor.
00:37:36.000 The Gold Star families were then brought out on stage, and they were welcomed by the RNC crowd, and the love in the room was amazing, obviously.
00:37:44.000 Please welcome to the stage the Gold Star families of our fallen heroes.
00:37:49.000 Obviously the moment of the night, all the Gold Star families standing there holding
00:38:18.000 pictures of their kids.
00:38:23.000 Now what did MSNBC do?
00:38:24.000 They cut away.
00:38:26.000 Of course they did.
00:38:26.000 Because MSNBC can't allow the audience to see something like that.
00:38:29.000 So in the middle of that, you can see in the background of this particular shot, the Gold Star family standing there.
00:38:35.000 They decided they had to cut away to get Rachel Maddow's incisive analysis.
00:38:40.000 Who would less like to join in on this conversation than probably anything else in his entire life.
00:38:45.000 But he is now going to join us.
00:38:47.000 He is our friend Jamie Harrison, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee.
00:38:52.000 You have stumbled into quite a conversation, Mr. Chairman.
00:38:55.000 Thank you so much for being here.
00:38:57.000 Rachel, I followed it intensely.
00:39:00.000 There's a reason why I don't have any hair.
00:39:07.000 All that happening while the Gold Star families are being cheered on stage.
00:39:10.000 Just slow clap for the genius programming at MSNBC.
00:39:14.000 The other big story of the night, obviously, was the introduction of J.D.
00:39:17.000 Vance on the national stage.
00:39:18.000 So, many of us have followed J.D.
00:39:19.000 Vance for a long time.
00:39:21.000 I've interviewed J.D.
00:39:21.000 Vance on the show in about 2021.
00:39:23.000 I read his book, Hillbilly Elegy, when it came out in 2016.
00:39:27.000 It's a terrific book, obviously.
00:39:30.000 He was welcomed on the stage by his wife, Usha, who is an American of Indian heritage, and she explained how her story with JD could have only happened in America.
00:39:44.000 I grew up in San Diego, in a middle-class community, with two loving parents, both immigrants from India, and a wonderful sister.
00:40:00.000 That J.D.
00:40:01.000 and I could meet at all, let alone fall in love and marry, is a testament to this great country.
00:40:06.000 Okay, she then went on to talk about J.D.
00:40:12.000 Vance on a personal level.
00:40:13.000 And again, it's always heartwarming when you have members of the family talking.
00:40:18.000 I met J.D.
00:40:18.000 in law school when he was fresh out of Ohio State, which he attended with the support of the GI Bill.
00:40:25.000 We were friends first because, I mean, who wouldn't want to be friends with J.D.? ?
00:40:29.000 He was then, as now, the most interesting person I knew.
00:40:34.000 A working class guy who had overcome childhood traumas that I could barely fathom to end up at Yale Law School.
00:40:43.000 A tough Marine who had served in Iraq, but whose idea of a good time was playing with puppies and watching the movie Babe.
00:40:54.000 The most determined person I knew with one overriding ambition.
00:40:59.000 To become a husband and a father and to build the kind of tight-knit family that he had longed for as a child.
00:41:08.000 Now, the magic of J.D.
00:41:09.000 Vance, just in terms of him as a politician and as a person, is his life story.
00:41:13.000 I mean, it's a story that's so unbelievable that it was literally made into a Hollywood movie.
00:41:16.000 I mean, think about that for a second.
00:41:17.000 J.D.
00:41:18.000 Vance is a Republican.
00:41:20.000 He's a Republican who, at the age of 31, wrote a book that Hollywood made into a movie starring Amy Adams and Glenn Close.
00:41:28.000 Have you ever heard of another Republican that's even been presented to as an opportunity?
00:41:31.000 Not even remotely.
00:41:33.000 And so in his nomination speech, he accepted the nomination, of course.
00:41:36.000 And then in his nomination speech, he told his story.
00:41:38.000 And his story is amazing.
00:41:40.000 I mean, it's truly an amazing story.
00:41:41.000 Again, it's a story so good that it was a best-selling national bestseller.
00:41:45.000 I mean, it like sold 2 million copies.
00:41:47.000 And so when he speaks about this story, it really is incredible.
00:41:51.000 As we'll discuss in a moment, I think that when it comes to J.D.' 's takes on economics,
00:41:58.000 There is a bit of a conflict between his life story as told in Hillbilly Elegy and his economic program.
00:42:04.000 That doesn't mean that it shouldn't be part of the conversation.
00:42:07.000 It obviously is part of the conversation.
00:42:08.000 It's a huge part of the conversation right now.
00:42:10.000 But it's certainly heterodox as we discussed when he was selected as the vice presidential pick by President Trump.
00:42:15.000 But his story is unquestionably an amazing American story that requires telling over and over again.
00:42:24.000 I was lucky.
00:42:26.000 Despite the closing factories and the growing addiction in towns like mine, in my life, I had a guardian angel by my side.
00:42:33.000 She was an old woman who could barely walk, but she was tough as nails.
00:42:39.000 I called her Mamaw, the name we hillbillies gave to our grandmothers.
00:42:42.000 Mamaw raised me as my mother struggled with addiction.
00:42:46.000 Mamaw was, in so many ways, a woman of contradiction.
00:42:49.000 She loved the Lord, ladies and gentlemen.
00:42:51.000 She was a woman of very deep Christian faith.
00:42:54.000 But she also loved the F word.
00:42:55.000 Now, she once told me, when she found out that I was spending too much time with a local kid who was known for dealing drugs, that if I ever hung out with that kid again, she would run him over with her car.
00:43:10.000 And it was because of his mamaw that he grew up with a certain set of values that allowed him to go on to Yale Law School, And serve the military and do all the things that he ended up doing.
00:43:20.000 An amazing moment came when he paid tribute to his mom.
00:43:22.000 So if you've seen the movie Hillbilly Elegy, which again, Hollywood savaged after they made it.
00:43:26.000 So for a hot second, Vance's story was seen as sort of the story of why people voted Trump.
00:43:32.000 And so Hollywood accepted the story, made the movie, and then they decided that Trump was evil.
00:43:36.000 And so then they savaged the movie.
00:43:37.000 So if you look at the reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, they do not remotely match up with the actual quality of the film, which is quite good.
00:43:44.000 But his actual life story is that his mom was a drug addict.
00:43:48.000 And so it was his grandma who really did the heavy lifting when he was growing up.
00:43:54.000 His mom was there and he paid tribute to her and her 10 years of sobriety at the convention.
00:44:00.000 It was pretty, like a wonderful American moment.
00:44:05.000 Our movement is about single moms like mine who struggled with money and addiction, but never gave up.
00:44:12.000 And I'm proud to say that tonight, my mom is here.
00:44:15.000 Ten years, clean and sober.
00:44:16.000 I love you, Mom.
00:44:18.000 And you know, Mom, I was thinking, it'll be 10 years officially in January of 2025.
00:44:35.000 And if President Trump's okay with it, let's have the celebration in the White House.
00:44:42.000 And it's all wonderful stuff, right?
00:44:43.000 I mean, that's just wonderful, wonderful stuff.
00:44:46.000 So, J.D.
00:44:47.000 Vance's speech last night, it focused in on his personal story, and then it veered off into his policy prescriptions.
00:44:53.000 And these, of course, as I mentioned a little bit earlier in the week when he was selected for vice president, are very, very heterodox.
00:44:58.000 I mean, really heterodox.
00:44:59.000 Not necessarily on foreign policy, where it has become obviously going wisdom and obvious truth that the war in Iraq was a failure.
00:45:07.000 That obviously is true.
00:45:08.000 And in retrospect, you can see that it was a failure and that it was going to be a failure because now we have the benefit of hindsight.
00:45:15.000 In 2004, when everybody was supporting the war in Iraq, it was a bit of a different story.
00:45:19.000 And again, the reality is that could that war have gone differently?
00:45:22.000 Perhaps.
00:45:24.000 You were willing to do what John McCain suggested in 2008 and put people on the ground for a hundred years.
00:45:27.000 Americans weren't willing to do that, which calls into question the strategy of the war at the very beginning.
00:45:32.000 But it's really on economics that J.D.
00:45:33.000 Vance is truly heterodox.
00:45:36.000 And what's fascinating about J.D.
00:45:37.000 Vance's approach is that if you listen to his speech on economics, it is very difficult to distinguish his take on economics from Elizabeth Warren's or Bernie Sanders.
00:45:44.000 That's just the reality of the situation.
00:45:46.000 There was no talk last night about free markets, about innovation, about dynamic capitalism.
00:45:52.000 About job creation by the private sector.
00:45:55.000 All of that was basically left by the wayside.
00:45:57.000 And that is, in fact, a shift for JD Vance in terms of his focus.
00:46:02.000 So he connected his story with his policy.
00:46:04.000 But what's kind of strange about that is he connected a very different policy with his story in Hillbilly Elegy.
00:46:09.000 And this is sort of the fascinating thing about J.D.
00:46:10.000 Vance.
00:46:11.000 And of course, as he mentioned last night in his own speech, there is in fact a rather interesting conflict emerging inside the Republican Party about the philosophy of economics that it seeks to embrace.
00:46:21.000 J.D.
00:46:21.000 Vance's philosophy of economics looks much more like the Democratic Party circa 1989 than it does like the Republican Party for most of my lifetime.
00:46:30.000 It is not a free market economics pitch.
00:46:32.000 And again, it's very different from what he wrote in Hillbilly Elegy.
00:46:35.000 So, in Hillbilly Elegy, which was really about, again, that same story that we heard him tell, his takeaway was, you have to have strong family members who are willing to inculcate values in the face of extraordinary hardship in order to build a better life.
00:46:48.000 And I read some quotes from Hillbilly Elegy earlier this week, but I want you to remember those quotes as we talk about his economic plans, which in many ways are very much a reversal from what he preached in Hillbilly Elegy.
00:46:59.000 He said this, what separates the successful from the unsuccessful are the expectations they had for their own lives.
00:47:04.000 Yet the message of the right is increasingly, it's not your fault that you're a loser, it's the government's fault.
00:47:09.000 Right, well, actually, the case that he made last night is it's sort of private industry's fault and the government's fault.
00:47:15.000 And that's a very different message than the message of Hillbilly Elegy.
00:47:20.000 Again, Hillbilly Elegy, which is the thing that made him famous, and the life story from which he draws is very different from sort of the economic policy that he now seeks to promote.
00:47:28.000 And so the economic story that J.D.
00:47:29.000 Vance tells is kind of the same as, say, John Edwards in 2004, that it's the Main Street versus Wall Street, that there are two Americas, the America of the investor class and the America of the blue-collar working class.
00:47:42.000 I mean, it sounds exactly like John Edwards circa 2004.
00:47:45.000 I happen to think this is economically wrong.
00:47:47.000 Now, again, I think J.D.
00:47:50.000 is a bold pick by President Trump.
00:47:51.000 I think he's super articulate.
00:47:52.000 I think he's quite charming.
00:47:53.000 I think his life story is wonderful.
00:47:55.000 If this presages an economic battle inside the Republican Party, which I think it clearly does and is meant to, then that is a battle of ideas that does need to be taken up on behalf of people who actually believe in free markets.
00:48:08.000 Because there was not a mention of the free market last night, the single greatest job creator and prosperity creator in human history.
00:48:14.000 But the story that JD Vance tells is that basically the reason that his town died is because of government's bad policy, as opposed to changing circumstances of the economy or the breakdown of family and social life, which is really what he kind of says in Hillbilly Elegy.
00:48:29.000 So here he was telling the story of what he thinks is the story of the economy over the last few decades.
00:48:35.000 My friends, things did not work out well for a lot of kids I grew up with.
00:48:39.000 Every now and then, I will get a call from a relative back home who asks, did you know so-and-so?
00:48:44.000 And I'll remember a face from years ago, and then I'll hear they died of an overdose.
00:48:49.000 As always, America's ruling class wrote the checks.
00:48:53.000 Communities like mine paid the price.
00:48:56.000 For decades, that divide between the few with their power and comfort in Washington and the rest of us only widened.
00:49:03.000 From Iraq to Afghanistan, from the financial crisis to the Great Recession, from open borders to stagnating wages, the people who govern this country have failed and failed again.
00:49:17.000 I mean, I agree that the people who govern the country have failed and failed again, but to suggest that the free markets are to blame, which is where he turns next, is a stretch.
00:49:26.000 I mean, and not only a stretch, I think on a fundamental level, not true.
00:49:30.000 Again, when he says that he gets a call from his hometown about somebody who died of a drug overdose, the fentanyl crisis is in fact a crisis that is exacerbated by Joe Biden's open border.
00:49:37.000 There's no question about that.
00:49:39.000 That is for sure true.
00:49:41.000 It also happens to be true that his entire book is about the idea that the only pathway for individuals in a free country out of failure is a mentality that says that you can succeed.
00:49:52.000 So again, his foreign policy is colored and shaded by the fact that he served in Iraq, It is colored by the fact that he served in the military, that he is a warrior, that he comes from a warrior family, and all of that has to be taken with extraordinary respect, obviously.
00:50:11.000 It's also colored by the fact that the American government did blow the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan.
00:50:15.000 No question.
00:50:16.000 And I think that shaped everybody's response to foreign policy.
00:50:20.000 It's made everybody significantly more of a realist.
00:50:23.000 I mean, he didn't get into his position on Ukraine.
00:50:25.000 Again, I have disagreements with him on Ukraine, obviously.
00:50:28.000 But with that said, I think that the generalized idea, which is that everybody is much more wary of the interventionism of American power, that's true, and it should be true, and that's good.
00:50:38.000 When it comes to economics, however, the economic program that he is preaching is disconnected from the reality of why things actually happen in the economy.
00:50:46.000 And so his entire kind of Spiel here is if America puts up tariffs, if America creates subsidies, then we will bring the smokestacks back to Youngstown.
00:50:55.000 And the factories, the factory jobs will just come back.
00:50:58.000 And it's all because of free trade.
00:51:01.000 As we'll discuss in a moment, just on a factual level, this is not really true, but here he was discussing, for example, NAFTA.
00:51:08.000 When I was in the fourth grade, a career politician by the name of Joe Biden supported NAFTA, a bad trade deal that sent countless good jobs to Mexico.
00:51:22.000 When I was a sophomore in high school, that same career politician named Joe Biden gave China a sweetheart trade deal that destroyed even more good American middle-class manufacturing jobs.
00:51:37.000 When I was a senior in high school, that same Joe Biden supported the disastrous invasion of Iraq.
00:51:43.000 And at each step of the way, in small towns like mine in Ohio or next door in Pennsylvania or Michigan, in states all across our country, jobs were sent overseas and our children were sent to war.
00:51:59.000 Okay, now, let's be a little bit clear about this.
00:52:01.000 Again, Joe Biden's a terrible president.
00:52:03.000 He was a terrible senator.
00:52:03.000 He's been wrong about everything his entire life.
00:52:05.000 Also, NAFTA in the House had more Republican votes than Democrat votes.
00:52:10.000 NAFTA was not, in fact, a turning point in American economics.
00:52:12.000 It was not.
00:52:12.000 It actually had a relatively minor impact on American economics.
00:52:16.000 In fact, our exports doubled to Canada and Mexico in the aftermath of NAFTA.
00:52:22.000 NAFTA has sort of become a buzzword for not liking globalization generally.
00:52:26.000 But the reality, the idea that NAFTA killed jobs, like here's a chart of job growth in the United States over the past few decades.
00:52:34.000 Okay, here's a chart of jobs in the United States, 1969 to 2022.
00:52:39.000 See if you can spot NAFTA.
00:52:41.000 Can you spot NAFTA in this chart?
00:52:42.000 You can't, because NAFTA really did not have an impact on job growth in the United States.
00:52:46.000 It really didn't.
00:52:47.000 The trajectory of American job growth was not changed by NAFTA.
00:52:51.000 It simply was not.
00:52:53.000 Look at manufacturing output.
00:52:56.000 Okay, here's manufacturing output.
00:52:58.000 Manufacturing output spiked between the advent of NAFTA and the recession of 2000, and then it spiked again between the recession of 2000 and the recession of 2008.
00:53:06.000 That's real manufacturing output in the United States.
00:53:12.000 Okay, so was that NAFTA?
00:53:14.000 Not really.
00:53:14.000 The story of the loss of manufacturing jobs in the United States is actually automation.
00:53:18.000 It's technology and automation.
00:53:20.000 It is not actual outsourcing.
00:53:21.000 Now, again, that is not a case for trade with China.
00:53:23.000 Trade with China is a different thing than trade with other countries because China is actually an enemy of the United States and should be treated as such.
00:53:29.000 For national security reasons, we should have heavy restrictions on trade with China.
00:53:33.000 And it was a massive mistake to do what Joe Biden did actually do, which was broaden trade with China.
00:53:38.000 It was a huge bipartisan mistake.
00:53:40.000 No question at all.
00:53:41.000 But the case that he makes is, again, disconnected from the actual economic case.
00:53:49.000 And it's disconnected from why, for example, we should have tariffs against China.
00:53:53.000 I agree with J.D.
00:53:54.000 Vance about tariffs against China for national security reasons.
00:53:57.000 That is a different thing from suggesting that free trade has hollowed out the manufacturing base.
00:54:02.000 And if it hadn't been for free trade, then it would be more of a segment of the American economy.
00:54:06.000 In fact, Manufacturing as a sector of the American economy has been in significant decline, even as real output has increased in the manufacturing sector.
00:54:14.000 And that's not just true for the United States.
00:54:15.000 It's true for every country, including, by the way, China.
00:54:18.000 China also, manufacturing as a percentage of their GDP is actually smaller than it was 10, 15, or 20 years ago because of automation.
00:54:28.000 That's just the reality.
00:54:29.000 So, again, when we say these things, it may make for a good story in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
00:54:35.000 It is also counter to the story that he was telling in Hillbilly Elegy.
00:54:38.000 Then, J.D.
00:54:39.000 Vance blamed Wall Street for the housing crisis.
00:54:41.000 Now, this is a case the right typically has not made.
00:54:44.000 Wall Street acted because the Clinton administration, in its final years, passed a bill that effectively redid how subprime mortgages were done.
00:54:55.000 And it allowed borrowers who could not afford their houses to get into houses they could not pay for on the assumption real estate prices would continue to rise.
00:55:04.000 And then mortgage companies basically jumped into that boat because they knew on the back end that the system had been perverted and they would get paid off.
00:55:11.000 But according to J.D.
00:55:11.000 Vance, it was just corporate greed.
00:55:12.000 Again, the sort of language he uses on economics is typically not conservative language on economics or free market language on economics.
00:55:20.000 Months ago, I heard some young family member observe that their parents' generation, the Baby Boomers, could afford to buy a home when they first entered the workforce.
00:55:29.000 But I don't know, this person observed, if I'll ever be able to afford a home.
00:55:35.000 The absurd cost of housing is the result of so many failures, and it reveals so much about what's broken in Washington.
00:55:44.000 I can tell you exactly how it happened.
00:55:47.000 Wall Street barons crashed the economy and American builders went out of business.
00:55:53.000 As tradesmen scrambled for jobs, houses stopped being built.
00:55:57.000 The lack of good jobs, of course, led to stagnant wages.
00:56:01.000 And then the Democrats flooded this country with millions of illegal aliens.
00:56:07.000 I totally agree with him about illegal immigration.
00:56:09.000 Everything else that he said there, I don't think is economically correct.
00:56:12.000 I mean, because it questions them.
00:56:13.000 Why would Wall Street Barons crash the economy?
00:56:15.000 Why?
00:56:16.000 What was the purpose of it?
00:56:17.000 Did Wall Street do great during the recession years?
00:56:20.000 Was Wall Street, like, making bank during the recession years?
00:56:23.000 He made the case certain CEOs were, but certainly Wall Street as a whole was not.
00:56:26.000 And it turns out that the thing that actually stifled real estate development is over-regulation in largely populated areas.
00:56:36.000 The mortgage rates continue to be extraordinarily low until Joe Biden's inflationary period.
00:56:40.000 That's why so many people are not selling their homes now because they have a mortgage that's locked in at 2.5% that they got in like 2012.
00:56:47.000 And now the mortgage rates are at 7.5% under Joe Biden.
00:56:51.000 So why aren't new houses being built?
00:56:52.000 The reason new houses aren't being built is because nobody knows if they can actually afford to pay for the mortgage.
00:56:58.000 So nobody's going to build that.
00:56:59.000 And meanwhile, Joe Biden is trying to induce rent control.
00:57:01.000 I mean, there are a bunch of reasons for the housing crisis.
00:57:05.000 But the narrative that he's telling is no different than, I mean, he himself has said that he's kind of warm toward the Bernie Sanders economic wing of the party.
00:57:12.000 And there is a part of the Republican Party that is in fact that.
00:57:15.000 But I think that that's a debate that should be had.
00:57:18.000 Vance concluded his speech by talking about, we're done catering to Wall Street, we're catering to the working man, we're done importing foreign labor, we're gonna stamp products made in America.
00:57:26.000 Again, I think a lot of these things make for great bumper stickers.
00:57:29.000 I just don't think that government has the power to magically redefine how global economics works.
00:57:33.000 You can talk again about reshoring jobs from Vietnam, but making t-shirts in Youngstown ain't gonna support Youngstown.
00:57:42.000 In fact, the best case For the American economy, traditionally speaking, if you're talking about like lack of manufacturing jobs, Pittsburgh used to be a steel town.
00:57:50.000 That's why they're the Pittsburgh Steelers.
00:57:52.000 Now, the leading sector in Pittsburgh is the healthcare industry.
00:57:56.000 It turns out that economics tends to progress towards service-based industries.
00:58:00.000 Now, again, you can make a case and you should make a case for keeping certain basic manufacturing tasks in the United States for national security reasons.
00:58:08.000 That is very different from the idea that everybody in America should pay higher prices on all goods in order to benefit particular sectors of the economy.
00:58:15.000 On a non-national security basis, because there's no limiting principle there.
00:58:20.000 And then you end up pretty quickly at universal basic income.
00:58:23.000 You end up very quickly at bigger welfare benefits.
00:58:25.000 You end up very quickly at giant taxes and subsidies for particular favored political interest groups.
00:58:31.000 Maybe that's a good way to win elections in the Midwest.
00:58:33.000 Maybe that's the goal here.
00:58:34.000 But it is not good economic policy.
00:58:37.000 We're done, ladies and gentlemen, catering to Wall Street.
00:58:40.000 We'll commit to the working man.
00:58:42.000 We're done importing foreign labor.
00:58:44.000 We're going to fight for American citizens and their good jobs and their good wages.
00:58:49.000 We're done buying energy from countries that hate us.
00:58:51.000 We're going to get it right here, from American workers in Pennsylvania and Ohio and across the country.
00:58:57.000 We're done sacrificing supply chains to unlimited global trade, and we're going to stamp more and more products with that beautiful label Made in the USA.
00:59:07.000 We're going to build factories again, put people to work making real products for American families, made with the hands of American workers.
00:59:16.000 Together, we will protect the wages of American workers and stop the Chinese Communist Party from building their middle class on the backs of American citizens.
00:59:27.000 He's making promises here that I just don't think anyone can keep.
00:59:30.000 Forget about J.D.
00:59:30.000 Vance.
00:59:30.000 I don't think anyone can keep it.
00:59:31.000 I think Democrats my entire life have been making these promises.
00:59:34.000 Warren made those promises.
00:59:35.000 Sanders makes these promises.
00:59:36.000 They're not true when anyone says it.
00:59:38.000 Again, first of all, the idea that Wall Street has nothing to do with American prosperity is just not true.
00:59:43.000 Hey, the reality is that investment, first of all, most people have a 401k at this point in the United States, or at least have investments in the stock market.
00:59:50.000 At least 50% of Americans have investments in the stock market, which is why it matters how the stock market does.
00:59:54.000 Pension funds are in the stock market.
00:59:56.000 Investment actually matters.
00:59:58.000 It creates a pool for innovation.
01:00:00.000 Innovation is what drives the economy forward, which is why you have nicer stuff than your parents or grandparents did.
01:00:07.000 It is why you are living a better life, economically speaking, than, yes, your parents.
01:00:10.000 It's why you have a cell phone.
01:00:12.000 It is why you have a better TV.
01:00:13.000 It is why you have internet access.
01:00:15.000 It's why you have all these wonderful things.
01:00:17.000 The way we even measure economics in the United States is broken because the stuff that we have is way nicer than the stuff that we had 15, 20 years ago.
01:00:25.000 Inside my own lifetime, try explaining to your kids about the stuff that you used in 1999.
01:00:29.000 They won't even know what you're talking about.
01:00:30.000 And that's because of innovation.
01:00:32.000 That is because of free markets.
01:00:33.000 And so undermining that, is not something that I think is a particularly good idea.
01:00:38.000 And by the way, I should mention here, Donald Trump didn't actually undermine it during his first term.
01:00:42.000 Donald Trump uses many of the same phrases about tariff policy.
01:00:45.000 He uses a lot of the same phrases about global trade and about economics.
01:00:50.000 But Donald Trump cut regulations.
01:00:52.000 Donald Trump cut taxes.
01:00:54.000 You want to know why Donald Trump had a historically good economy?
01:00:56.000 It's because he didn't do a lot of the stuff that J.D.
01:00:59.000 Vance is talking about right here.
01:01:01.000 One of the other aspects of J.D.
01:01:02.000 Vance's speech that's getting a lot of attention is his point, and it was also made by the World War II veteran who spoke yesterday, that America is not just an idea, it's a homeland.
01:01:09.000 Which, of course, is absolutely true.
01:01:11.000 Here is Senator Vance last night.
01:01:15.000 America is not just an idea.
01:01:18.000 It is a group of people with a shared history and a common future.
01:01:23.000 It is, in short, a nation.
01:01:26.000 Now it is part of that tradition, of course, that we welcome newcomers.
01:01:30.000 But when we allow newcomers into our American family, we allow them on our terms.
01:01:35.000 People will not fight for abstractions, but they will fight for their home.
01:01:40.000 And if this movement of ours is going to succeed, and if this country is going to thrive, our leaders have to remember that America is a nation, and its citizens deserve leaders who put its interests first.
01:01:55.000 Okay, now, again, I agree with everything he's saying.
01:01:57.000 I'm just not sure what he's arguing against.
01:02:00.000 Because, obviously, America is a nation.
01:02:03.000 France is also a nation.
01:02:04.000 Poland is also a nation.
01:02:06.000 When he says that America is a land, yes, so is literally every other land.
01:02:11.000 That's true.
01:02:11.000 And America happens to be the best land.
01:02:13.000 I mean, it's absolutely incredible.
01:02:14.000 It's the best land, and it's the best nation.
01:02:16.000 But, why?
01:02:18.000 Why?
01:02:18.000 And the answer is, the idea that's connected to those things.
01:02:21.000 He says that America's not just an idea, and of course that's true.
01:02:24.000 I think the thing that he's arguing against, and here I agree with him, I think the thing he's arguing against is this sort of abstracted idea that Joe Biden uses all the time, where he says, it's not who we are.
01:02:33.000 And what he means by that is, it's not who the left is.
01:02:36.000 Hey, the attempt to universalize American values in the sense that they can either be exported to Iraq or imported from Guatemala.
01:02:44.000 That's silly, and it's wrong, and I think that's what he is saying right there.
01:02:47.000 But when he says that people don't fight for ideas, obviously that's not true.
01:02:50.000 That's certainly not true.
01:02:52.000 I mean, I'm sorry, the Cold War was a war of ideas, it turns out.
01:02:55.000 It was not just a war of territories.
01:02:58.000 Otherwise, it would be like most European wars, which are wars of territory.
01:03:01.000 Turns out that people fight for ideas all the time.
01:03:03.000 The idea is connected to the home.
01:03:05.000 That's what America, that's what makes America a nation.
01:03:07.000 And I think that's what he's trying to say.
01:03:09.000 I hope that's what he's trying to say.
01:03:11.000 Because otherwise I'm not sure what the exact kind of, what is he arguing against?
01:03:17.000 That's really the question that I'm asking here.
01:03:19.000 And I know there are a lot of people online who are taking like significant pleasure in this particular line, but it's obviously self-evident.
01:03:25.000 America is not just an idea.
01:03:27.000 Lots of things are just an idea.
01:03:30.000 Quantum physics is just an idea.
01:03:31.000 It's not a nation.
01:03:32.000 It's not a home.
01:03:33.000 And obviously that's true.
01:03:35.000 Obviously that's true.
01:03:36.000 But the point of the American idea is even stated by J.D.
01:03:39.000 Vance there, which is, you can join.
01:03:41.000 If America were only a nation, or if it were only a home, how would you join it?
01:03:47.000 Obviously he thinks you can join it, which means that the idea is very much in contention.
01:03:52.000 If what he means is like baseline patriotism, wave the flag, this land matters, it matters where I'm born and where I die, obviously agree.
01:03:59.000 Obviously agree.
01:04:01.000 I assume that's what he means by that.
01:04:03.000 Alrighty.
01:04:04.000 Meanwhile, couple assassination updates.
01:04:05.000 We have a little bit more information on the assassination.
01:04:08.000 It just gets weirder and weirder and more and more disturbing.
01:04:11.000 Apparently, according to Jackie Heinrich of Fox News, when investigators have now reviewed the laptop of the assassin, the attempted assassin, he said, July 13th will be my premiere.
01:04:23.000 Watch as it unfolds.
01:04:25.000 That was the Trump rally.
01:04:27.000 They also found searches for Trump, Biden, and when is the DNC convention.
01:04:32.000 The suspect had two cell phones.
01:04:33.000 The primary phone was recovered from the scene along with a remote transmitter detonator.
01:04:37.000 A secondary cell phone was found at the home and had only 27 contacts.
01:04:40.000 The FBI is trying to track down and interview those people, so it's getting very, very weird.
01:04:45.000 Also, the Secret Service apparently identified the shooter as a threat 10 minutes before Donald Trump went on stage and let Donald Trump go on the stage anyway.
01:04:58.000 Not a good look, Secret Service.
01:04:59.000 What the hell is going on?
01:05:00.000 Well, you're not going to get any answers from the head of the Secret Service, who was tracked down and badgered by multiple members of Congress yesterday at the Republican National Convention.
01:05:10.000 Very disappointing in the leadership.
01:05:12.000 We have called, I have called for your resignation.
01:05:14.000 And I doubt anyone will join tonight or start answering our questions right now about the death threats that President
01:05:21.000 Trump...
01:05:21.000 Why would anyone allow a president to go on stage when you know that you've got a potential threat and you've got snipers
01:05:31.000 that are trying to...
01:05:32.000 It was an assassination attempt!
01:05:36.000 You owe the people answers!
01:05:39.000 You owe President Trump answers!
01:05:41.000 You can't keep running because you cannot hide from all the people in the United States!
01:05:54.000 Okay, she didn't obviously give any answers, nor was she going to.
01:05:57.000 The good news, according to the Democrats, is that Donald Trump's bravery in surviving the assassination attempt, getting up, pumping his fist, and all of that, it's absolutely equivalent to Joe Biden surviving COVID right now.
01:06:08.000 Like, that's an actual thing they are arguing.
01:06:10.000 Here is Joy Reid.
01:06:13.000 These two men are both elderly.
01:06:15.000 Donald Trump is an elderly man who, for whatever reason, was given nine seconds to take an iconic photo op during an active shooter situation.
01:06:24.000 Weird situation, we'll figure that out one day.
01:06:27.000 But his survival of that and bouncing right back and going right to his convention is being conveyed in the media world as a sign of strength.
01:06:36.000 This current president of the United States is 81 years old and has COVID.
01:06:42.000 Should he be fine in a couple of days?
01:06:45.000 Doesn't that convey exactly the same thing?
01:06:47.000 That he's strong enough, older than Trump, to have gotten something that used to really be Fatal to people his age.
01:06:55.000 So if he does fine out of it and comes back and is able to do rallies, isn't that exactly the same?
01:07:01.000 It should.
01:07:01.000 I mean it's not exactly the same, it's not the same incident, but it's an elderly man coming through out of an illness.
01:07:07.000 It should.
01:07:09.000 Oh my goodness.
01:07:10.000 Yeah, guys, you got it.
01:07:12.000 You hit it right on the head.
01:07:13.000 Joe Biden surviving COVID, which is a cold at this point, is just the same.
01:07:18.000 It's the same.