The Ben Shapiro Show - It’s All About Georgia | Ep. 1151

00:00:00.000 Two runoff Senate races heat up as President Trump arrives to campaign for Republicans in Georgia.

00:00:05.000 COVID continues to wash across America with hypocrisy and heavy-handedness ruling the day.

00:00:09.000 And Joe Biden demonstrates once again he is not a moderate.

00:00:11.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:00:26.000 Well, we'll get to all the news of the day and big news happening over the weekend.

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00:02:05.000 Okay, so over the weekend, President Trump headed down to Georgia to campaign for these Senate Georgia Republicans.

00:02:11.000 Now, I've been saying for weeks on end, anybody who is telling you that you should boycott a bunch of Republican races that will decide the fate of the United States Senate and could place the United States Senate at the tender mercies of, if Trump does not become president, Kamala Harris, or in any case, at the hands of Chuck Schumer, This is like the dumbest thing you could do. 0.94

00:02:32.000 And anybody who's telling you to do that is a grifter.

00:02:34.000 Anybody who's telling you that you need to boycott races because you're mad about what happened to Trump in Georgia, or you're mad about the national election, or you suspect voter fraud, so you're gonna stay home and simply hand Senate seats to John Ossoff?

00:02:45.000 Who is a radical Bernie Sanders leftist living off his parents' trust fund.

00:02:49.000 Or Raphael Warnock, a man so radical that he did full speeches from the pulpit in his congregation talking about the wonders of Jeremiah Wright. 0.98

00:02:57.000 Putting those people in the Senate as a solution to your upset about the Georgia presidential race is the dumbest thing you could do. 0.97

00:03:03.000 You know who agrees with me? 0.99

00:03:04.000 President Trump.

00:03:05.000 Okay, it's not me saying this.

00:03:07.000 This is President Trump saying this.

00:03:08.000 So, President Trump went down to Georgia, He said, listen, we are here to make sure that Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue win.

00:03:15.000 It is important that they win.

00:03:16.000 I agree with President Trump.

00:03:18.000 Here is President Trump down in Valdosta, Georgia, over the weekend.

00:03:18.000 Listen to the guy.

00:03:22.000 We're gathered here tonight to ensure a very important word, ensure.

00:03:29.000 Because these are two great, great people that I know so well and respected by everybody in Washington and beyond.

00:03:36.000 That David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler win the most important congressional runoff probably in American history.

00:03:43.000 I really believe that.

00:03:44.000 I think it's an American.

00:03:45.000 There's never been a time like this where you have two at one time.

00:03:51.000 At least you have two beauties. 1.00

00:03:53.000 You also have two beauties running against them, but beauty in a different way. 0.99

00:03:53.000 And you know what? 0.99

00:03:57.000 Okay, so President Trump is endorsing the idea that you should go out and vote in Georgia.

00:04:01.000 And you should!

00:04:02.000 No matter how pissed off you are about Georgia and how it's been handling its business down there.

00:04:02.000 Again.

00:04:08.000 Whether that is based or whether that is baseless.

00:04:10.000 Okay, the bottom line is you need to vote for the Republicans against the Democrats in Georgia.

00:04:14.000 I do not, for the life of me, I will never understand people who are saying that they're going to boycott a Georgia Senate race and hand the Senate to the Democrats in order to do what?

00:04:22.000 Punish the Democrats for helping to cheat?

00:04:24.000 If that's your opinion?

00:04:26.000 Or for what?

00:04:27.000 Helping the Democrats rig future elections through all sorts of voting procedures?

00:04:31.000 What exactly is the logic there?

00:04:33.000 There is no logic.

00:04:34.000 This is something Trump himself said.

00:04:35.000 He said, if you don't vote, socialists win.

00:04:37.000 It was sort of an instinct of mine.

00:04:39.000 You know, you're angry because so many votes were stolen.

00:04:42.000 It was taken away.

00:04:43.000 And you say, well, we're not going to do it.

00:04:44.000 We can't do that.

00:04:45.000 We have to actually do just the opposite.

00:04:47.000 We can't do that.

00:04:48.000 We can't do that.

00:04:50.000 We have to do just the opposite.

00:04:53.000 If you don't vote, the socialists and the communists win.

00:04:57.000 They win.

00:04:57.000 OK, he is correct about this, of course.

00:05:00.000 And President Trump went on to describe some of the Democratic Senate candidates in Georgia.

00:05:04.000 He particularly went after John Ossoff.

00:05:06.000 He said this guy is a left-wing zealot, which, of course, is true.

00:05:09.000 John Ossoff is a radical left-wing zealot who is very proud to be endorsed by Bernie Sanders. 0.85

00:05:18.000 Crazy Bernie.

00:05:21.000 Ossoff supports defunding the police, supports the crazy Green New Deal. 0.85

00:05:26.000 That's another beauty.

00:05:27.000 Don't forget, the Green New Deal is really a hundred trillion dollars, okay?

00:05:31.000 It's a hundred trillion dollars.

00:05:33.000 There is no excuse for not voting against John Ossoff and Rafael Warnock in Georgia.

00:05:40.000 How radical are these two candidates?

00:05:42.000 Well, over the weekend, a top Jewish group slammed Democrat Senate candidates John Ossoff and Rafael Warnock in a statement late on Saturday night.

00:05:48.000 They campaigned with Representative Hank Johnson, Democrat of Georgia, who has referred to Jews as termites and accused them of stealing the homes of Palestinians, according to Ryan Saavedra over at Daily Wire.

00:05:57.000 The trio reportedly campaigned together on Saturday during a drive-in rally hosted by county-level Democrat parties in their attempts to drive voter registration.

00:06:04.000 Ossoff and Warnock's decision to campaign with Johnson, who has made anti-Semitic remarks in the past, comes as Warnock has faced scrutiny on the campaign trail for controversial comments he made a few years ago about Israel, in which he suggested that Israel was willy-nilly killing Palestinians for no reason.

00:06:17.000 This drove the Republican-Jewish coalition to put out a statement decrying the anti-Semitism of campaigning alongside Johnson.

00:06:26.000 The fact, again, remains that these are extraordinarily radical candidates.

00:06:29.000 And you know who pointed that out last night?

00:06:30.000 There were a couple of debates last night.

00:06:32.000 One was an actual debate, one was not.

00:06:33.000 One was a debate between Kelly Loeffler and Raphael Warnock.

00:06:36.000 Kelly Loeffler is the sitting United States Senator in Georgia.

00:06:38.000 She's appointed to fill that seat. 0.99

00:06:41.000 Raphael Warnock is running against her, of course.

00:06:43.000 They ran in this open primary, jungle primary election in Georgia.

00:06:48.000 In which Warnock won the plurality of the vote, but that's because Loeffler was splitting the vote with Doug Collins on the Republican side of the aisle.

00:06:55.000 So Loeffler went after Warnock repeatedly.

00:06:56.000 She said he's a radical liberal.

00:06:57.000 The left was going nuts about this yesterday.

00:06:59.000 How could she?

00:06:59.000 She kept saying over and over he's a radical liberal.

00:07:01.000 Well, here's an idea.

00:07:02.000 Don't run a guy who was involved in a church praising Fidel Castro.

00:07:06.000 Don't run a guy who praised Jeremiah Wright.

00:07:09.000 Don't run a guy who decries America as inherently racist if you don't want him to be called a radical liberal over and over and over in Georgia.

00:07:14.000 That would be your fault.

00:07:16.000 That's a you problem, okay?

00:07:17.000 You guys created that.

00:07:18.000 And so, when Kelly Loeffler points out that, in fact, this human is a radical liberal... Sorry, that one's on you.

00:07:24.000 Here's Kelly Loeffler doing that last night. 1.00

00:07:27.000 My opponent, radical liberal Raphael Warnock, has called police officers gangsters, thugs, bullies, and a threat to our children.

00:07:35.000 When I gave him the chance to apologize in our first debate, he declined.

00:07:38.000 He's also said that you can't serve God and the military.

00:07:42.000 He's used the Bible to justify these types of attacks and make other divisive statements.

00:07:48.000 What we need is someone who can bring together, that can help us get through this pandemic and rebuild our economy across this country and right here in Georgia.

00:07:56.000 fighting to do.

00:07:56.000 That's what I'm fighting for.

00:08:13.000 The only thing that he had to say to Loeffler over and over and over was, you won't say whether Trump lost Georgia.

00:08:18.000 There's only one problem with this particular strategy.

00:08:21.000 A plurality of Georgians believe Trump didn't lose Georgia.

00:08:24.000 There's a poll that was done over the weekend, and apparently, actually, a slight majority of people in Georgia actually believe that there was some hanky-panky in Georgia.

00:08:32.000 So here is Raphael Warnock trying to hit Loeffler with an unpopular proposition in Georgia as though this is going to win him the Senate race.

00:08:38.000 Here we are several weeks after the election, and Kelly Loeffler continues to cast doubt on an American democratic election.

00:08:48.000 It's time to put this behind us and get focused on the concerns of ordinary people.

00:08:53.000 While she's playing political games trying to represent somebody who doesn't live in Georgia, Georgians are wondering when are they going to get some COVID-19 relief.

00:09:01.000 OK, if we're talking about COVID-19 relief, which we'll get to in a little while, guess who's holding up COVID-19 relief?

00:09:05.000 The Democrats.

00:09:06.000 The Democrats.

00:09:06.000 And it has nothing to do with Trump.

00:09:08.000 It has nothing to do with the election or voter fraud.

00:09:11.000 The people who are holding up the COVID relief are Democrats.

00:09:12.000 So this is a weak T response.

00:09:14.000 And he had no responses to anything Loeffler said about him last night.

00:09:16.000 So if anybody watched that debate in Georgia, And then decides you're going to sit it out after Loeffler correctly points out how radical Warnock is?

00:09:25.000 You are making a grave error.

00:09:26.000 You want to put that dude in the Senate?

00:09:28.000 You want to put that bad dude in the Senate?

00:09:30.000 Bad, bad idea.

00:09:32.000 Meanwhile, Jon Ossoff did a debate with David Perdue's podium.

00:09:35.000 So David Perdue was like, you know what, I'm not debating this guy because every time I do a debate with this guy, all he does is slander me, so forget it.

00:09:40.000 So he did a debate last night in which he just talked to an open podium.

00:09:44.000 And it turns out that Jon Ossoff can't even win a debate against an open podium.

00:09:48.000 I mean, he lost a race against Karen Handel for Congress.

00:09:51.000 Very hotly contested race in Georgia just a couple of years back.

00:09:54.000 And now he is back debating empty podiums.

00:09:56.000 So here he was, and this was supposed to be a great winning moment for him.

00:09:59.000 Yeah, not so much.

00:10:01.000 Well, it's a strange situation to be asking a question of a sitting United States Senator who is not here to debate as he asks for the votes of the people to be re-elected.

00:10:17.000 Senator Perdue, I suppose, doesn't feel that he can handle himself in debate, or perhaps is concerned that he may incriminate himself in debate.

00:10:30.000 both of which, in my opinion, are disqualifying.

00:10:33.000 Okay, that guy?

00:10:35.000 Yeah, hmm, okay, good times.

00:10:38.000 When the opposite podium is actually more interesting than you are in a debate, like at least when Clint Eastwood did the empty chair thing, it was actually kind of funny and interesting and creative.

00:10:48.000 This guy lost a debate to an empty podium, which is really, really difficult to do, Jon Ossoff.

00:10:52.000 OK, in just a second, we're going to get to the continuing controversy over the election because President Trump didn't just talk about why he should vote Republican in Georgia in the Senate elections.

00:11:01.000 He also talked about his own election and the prospect for his for a second term or a Joe Biden first term.

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00:12:30.000 Okay, so, President Trump in Georgia continued to maintain that Democrats rigged the election.

00:12:34.000 So here's President Trump in Valdosta.

00:12:36.000 Now, notice, members of the media were very upset that Trump was propagating two messages at the same time.

00:12:42.000 One is that he got jobs in Georgia.

00:12:43.000 The other is that Republicans should, in fact, go out and vote for Republican Senate candidates in Georgia.

00:12:49.000 Now, you can hold those two thoughts in your mind at the exact same time.

00:12:52.000 But see, for the left, what they want is for Trump to completely ignore the Senate races.

00:12:56.000 What they would like, this is the reason why they were celebrating Trump talking about voter fraud.

00:12:59.000 They were saying, this is great.

00:13:00.000 Trump, he's going to go down to Georgia, he's going to talk voter fraud, and he's going to discourage people from voting.

00:13:04.000 That's not what Trump did.

00:13:05.000 He went down there.

00:13:06.000 He says, listen, I got jobs.

00:13:07.000 I feel like we're going to move forward with the process, but I feel like I got cheated.

00:13:11.000 And also, you should go out and vote for the Senate candidates.

00:13:13.000 And Democrats were unduly angry at this because, of course, they were hoping that Trump would go down there and basically do exactly what Lin Wood and Sidney Powell have been doing and tell people not to vote for the Senate candidates because Democrats, all they care about is that Republicans lose power.

00:13:27.000 They don't care how it happens.

00:13:27.000 They just care that Republicans lose power.

00:13:29.000 Anyway, here is Trump talking about the possibility of voter irregularity in Georgia.

00:13:36.000 You must go vote and vote early starting December 14th.

00:13:39.000 You have to do it.

00:13:40.000 They cheated and they rigged our presidential election, but we will still win it.

00:13:45.000 We will still win it.

00:13:49.000 We'll still win it.

00:13:51.000 And they're going to try and rig this election too.

00:13:55.000 OK, so again, that's actually not a horrible get out the vote message, which is they're going to try to rig the election.

00:14:00.000 So get out and vote really early and make sure that they can't do with the mail-ins what I'm saying they did with the mail-ins.

00:14:06.000 No, Trump pushing that message is actually not a bad message.

00:14:09.000 Now, I'm getting a lot of mail from people who are asking, like, why do so many Republicans believe that this election was rigged?

00:14:14.000 Why do so many Republicans seem to be clinging to the idea that Trump was cheated in this election?

00:14:20.000 Well, I mean, listen, there are some puzzling questions about the election, like the fact that Trump seemed to underperform the rest of the Republican ticket.

00:14:26.000 I think there are plausible answers as to why that happened, if indeed it turns out that voter irregularity and voter fraud are not responsible for the current results.

00:14:32.000 There are people saying, okay, he got He overperformed among minorities, he underperformed in the suburbs, but why didn't that amount to a Trump victory?

00:14:40.000 So why are so many Republicans buying into Trump's narrative that this whole thing was voter irregularity?

00:14:47.000 The answer is this.

00:14:48.000 When people have been lied to for years and years and years and years, then the same people who lied to them for years and years and years turn around and say another thing, people are immediately going to assume it's a lie.

00:14:58.000 It's really that simple.

00:14:59.000 If you spent four years claiming that Donald Trump was not the legitimate president in 2016 because he was manipulating the system with the Russians, nobody is going to believe you when you say that he was booted from office in a fully legitimate election.

00:15:12.000 You literally could not...

00:15:13.000 Acknowledge that it was a legitimate election in 2016, and now here you are in 2020 saying, well, suddenly it's a legitimate election again.

00:15:19.000 Nobody's going to believe you.

00:15:20.000 When you blow out your own credibility, it makes it very difficult for anybody to trust you on issues like, is this current election legit?

00:15:26.000 Was there any voter fraud?

00:15:27.000 Was there any voter irregularity?

00:15:29.000 It makes it very difficult for anybody on the right to believe anybody in the media who, less than three months ago, was claiming that Donald Trump was going to rig the election through getting rid of mailboxes.

00:15:40.000 That Donald Trump was going to engage in voter suppression.

00:15:43.000 And then they flip and suddenly it's the cleanest election in the world.

00:15:45.000 No one is going to believe that.

00:15:47.000 Now, it may be that the election was not rigged.

00:15:50.000 It may be that the election was clean.

00:15:52.000 Or it may be that two things could be true at once.

00:15:53.000 The election was not decided by voter fraud and voter irregularity, but the processes by which the election happened did tend toward Democrats, and they are not the way we should run elections in the future.

00:16:02.000 And the media helped rig this election via its refusal to focus on actual stories that damaged Joe Biden And lying narratives over and over and over again, ranging from Trump is responsible for COVID, to Trump is a white supremacist, to Trump is a Russian plant, right?

00:16:16.000 All of those things can be true at once.

00:16:18.000 But here's one thing that is certainly true.

00:16:20.000 If you look at a list of institutions Americans trust right now, media is at the very, very bottom of that list.

00:16:25.000 And so members of the media keep shouting into the wind, it was a clean election.

00:16:28.000 And then they wonder why people don't believe them.

00:16:29.000 The answer is because you don't have any credibility.

00:16:31.000 One of the reasons you have no credibility is because you are willing to go along with any democratic narrative you possibly can.

00:16:37.000 So over the weekend, John Brennan, who's a Democrat, he was the head of the CIA under Barack Obama.

00:16:45.000 He was on with Chris Wallace, and he was saying that there was no spying on the Trump campaign.

00:16:50.000 Now, John Brennan is also one of the people who's out there saying today that it was a super clean election.

00:16:54.000 Why would I believe John Brennan?

00:16:55.000 The man actually lied to the Senate.

00:16:57.000 He lied to Congress.

00:16:59.000 He said that he had not been spying on the Senate.

00:17:01.000 That was not true.

00:17:02.000 And now he's saying there's no spying on the Trump campaign, and then in the same sentence, he's saying it was a clean election.

00:17:06.000 See, the source matters when it comes to credibility.

00:17:08.000 Now, this is not an argument, again, as to whether the election was clean or whether the election was dirty.

00:17:14.000 It is an argument that when all of the main sources who declare that they are telling you the truth have been lying to you for years, it makes it very, very difficult for people to buy into that.

00:17:23.000 Here is John Brennan saying an untrue thing.

00:17:25.000 As we have said previously, the Steele dossier was not used in any way to undergird the judgments that came out of the intelligence community assessment about the Russian actions in the 2016 election.

00:17:38.000 And so the Steele dossier was something that I never looked at from a standpoint of credibility, because it wasn't something that the CIA had acquired.

00:17:48.000 And so I think people point to the Steele dossier as this reason why the whole thing was a hoax.

00:17:53.000 No, there was so much other evidence and intelligence to support those judgments.

00:17:58.000 OK, there wasn't a lot of other evidence.

00:18:00.000 There wasn't a lot of other judgment.

00:18:02.000 And he also maintained that there was no spying, period, on the Trump campaign, which, of course, is just not true.

00:18:06.000 And there are members of the Trump campaign like Carter Page and members of the intel community who have now been informed as to the evils of the FISA warrants taken out against Carter Page have fully admitted that the FISA warrants never should have been taken out against Carter Page.

00:18:20.000 Here's Brennan just denying there was any spying on the Trump campaign at all, which, of course, is not correct.

00:18:24.000 Looking back at 2016, were there some mistakes made in terms of the FISA applications, other types of things?

00:18:29.000 Yes, apparently there were, but that doesn't mean that there was criminal intent and there was no spying on Donald Trump's campaign.

00:18:37.000 And it's very clear from Robert Mueller's investigation that there were a lot of activities that I think were very unprincipled, unethical.

00:18:44.000 And it'll be up to individuals in the future to determine whether or not there was any criminal activity that took place during that time.

00:18:51.000 I love to hear about unprincipled, unethical criminal activity from a guy who openly lied to the United States Senate and was forced to back off of it.

00:18:57.000 He's definitely a credible source.

00:18:58.000 We should believe him, probably.

00:19:00.000 He seems credible.

00:19:01.000 We'll get to more on the credibility of members of the media and the claims that are being made about voter fraud and voter irregularity in just one second.

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00:20:30.000 Okay, so all of this has led to a sort of radical skepticism about anybody.

00:20:34.000 See, here's one of the problems.

00:20:36.000 Skepticism about John Brennan, totally justified.

00:20:38.000 Skepticism about members of the media, who five minutes ago were declaring this election was going to be dirty and rigged for Trump, now declaring that because they think Biden won the election, everything was clean as the driven snow.

00:20:48.000 I understand distrust of those people.

00:20:50.000 The shift to anybody who now does not go along with the Trump loss because of voter fraud and voter irregularity narrative, that shift is too much.

00:20:58.000 Okay, so for example, Maria Bartiromo.

00:21:01.000 She was asking John Ratcliffe, who's the Director of National Intelligence, who got to Bill Barr.

00:21:05.000 Nobody got to Bill Barr, the Attorney General.

00:21:07.000 Bill Barr has been an excellent Attorney General.

00:21:09.000 He's done a lot of the things that Trump supporters would want.

00:21:11.000 Also, he happens to be a person who has abided by the law.

00:21:14.000 Bill Barr has been an excellent, straightforward, clear, and convincing Attorney General.

00:21:18.000 But here's Maria Bartiromo suggesting that somebody got to Bill Barr.

00:21:21.000 Okay, once he gets to the point where you're suggesting Bill Barr was bribed in order to go along with this election, that's not correct.

00:21:26.000 Bill Barr himself put out a statement last week saying the media had taken his comments about voter fraud too far.

00:21:30.000 He had said, I have seen no systemic evidence of voter fraud.

00:21:34.000 He did not say we've been doing massive investigations into systemic evidence of voter fraud.

00:21:37.000 He says, any evidence that's brought to light, we are going to investigate.

00:21:41.000 But at no point did he say that absence of evidence equals evidence of absence, right?

00:21:47.000 Just because I haven't seen voter fraud doesn't mean voter fraud didn't occur.

00:21:51.000 But here's Maria Bartiromo going too far. 1.00

00:21:52.000 Again, if you've gone to the point where everybody on the right side of the aisle who is skeptical about voter fraud allegations in the absence of convincing evidence is now bought off or something, that's too far.

00:22:04.000 Again, skepticism warranted.

00:22:07.000 I was the first person, I think, to say every legal vote needs to be counted and every illegal vote needs not to be counted.

00:22:12.000 This has now become the talking point on the right.

00:22:14.000 I was the first person to put it out there.

00:22:16.000 That is totally worthwhile and it is totally true.

00:22:19.000 And just because a media member who's been non-credible from the start begins to suggest over and over and over that the election is over does not necessarily mean the election is over.

00:22:26.000 The election is over when the Electoral College votes on December 14th.

00:22:28.000 End of story.

00:22:29.000 States certifying their votes means that those states have now certified their votes.

00:22:32.000 And there's not much that can be done about that absent a court order.

00:22:36.000 But for people to start going after Bill Barr, that is a bridge too far.

00:22:39.000 Here's Maria Bartiromo going a bridge too far. 1.00

00:22:42.000 Speaking of threats and bullying, who got to Bill Barr?

00:22:47.000 I've got to ask you your thoughts on where we are here with A.G.

00:22:51.000 Bill Barr and John Durham.

00:22:53.000 It seems like it's an about-face.

00:22:55.000 We were expecting a real investigation into what took place and why Crossfire Hurricane, the investigation into Donald Trump, still has no accountability.

00:23:06.000 OK, so again, nobody got to Bill Barr.

00:23:08.000 This idea that somebody got to Bill Barr is absurd and ridiculous, and people should not be implying that sort of stuff.

00:23:14.000 Bill Barr has been a very good AG.

00:23:15.000 And meanwhile, Rudy Giuliani, he came out and he said somebody in Washington directed voter fraud, but I don't know who.

00:23:20.000 OK, these kind of allegations are not particularly helpful.

00:23:22.000 Again, he's the president's lawyer.

00:23:23.000 Bring the evidence.

00:23:24.000 I want the same thing that Rudy Giuliani wants, that most of you want, right?

00:23:27.000 I would like to see Trump remain in office.

00:23:29.000 I would love that!

00:23:30.000 It would be great!

00:23:31.000 Okay, what I would also like is for a legal process to take place where Rudy Giuliani brings the evidence that he has been suggesting over and over he is going to bring.

00:23:38.000 And I don't mean that he brings affidavits that are unbacked by other supporting evidence.

00:23:41.000 Anybody can file an affidavit, especially one that is not filed in court.

00:23:44.000 I mean, if you want to change the outcome of the election, you're going to need to prove your case in court.

00:23:49.000 End of story.

00:23:50.000 I didn't create the process.

00:23:51.000 You didn't create the process.

00:23:52.000 The process is the process.

00:23:54.000 If you want the election outcome to change, that is the way it's going to change.

00:23:57.000 It does not help when Rudy just goes on TV and then says things like, some vague unspecified power in Washington, D.C.

00:24:02.000 fixed the election.

00:24:02.000 Like, I don't even know what that means.

00:24:03.000 That's not evidenced.

00:24:05.000 So how am I supposed to judge whether it's true or not?

00:24:07.000 Each one of them has, in one degree or another, almost the same pattern of activity.

00:24:14.000 One a little bit more than others.

00:24:15.000 This was a pattern that was set by somebody in Washington, because everybody else carried it out exactly in the same way.

00:24:22.000 And they did it in the crooked cities.

00:24:24.000 They didn't do it everywhere.

00:24:26.000 I don't know who was in charge of it.

00:24:27.000 All I can tell you is, it looks like a very well planned, very well executed Situation.

00:24:33.000 Okay, again, those sorts of vague allegations are not going to be particularly useful.

00:24:38.000 Again, if you want a result, if you just want to bitch about the election, they're useful.

00:24:42.000 If you want an actual result, you're going to have to do the hard work of pinning all this stuff down.

00:24:45.000 I know that's a high burden.

00:24:46.000 I understand it's a high burden.

00:24:48.000 That doesn't mean that things are going to change absent meeting the burden.

00:24:51.000 That's just the way it is.

00:24:53.000 Okay, like, I don't mean to be the bearer of bad tidings here, but I would like Trump Like you, I would like Trump to remain President of the United States.

00:25:01.000 If you want him to remain President of the United States, then putting out speculation about how Trump definitely could not have lost, or putting out statistical anomalies, that's not going to be enough.

00:25:10.000 You're going to have to actually prove it.

00:25:11.000 You're going to have to actually prove it.

00:25:13.000 Again, I'm talking about the practical, on-the-ground messaging.

00:25:16.000 You're going to have to actually show it in court if you want the results to change.

00:25:21.000 Otherwise, I mean, I suppose that we can move along and just believe that everybody's done their job.

00:25:26.000 But if the job's gonna get done, somebody's gonna have to do it.

00:25:28.000 And that person, presumably, is gonna have to be Trump's legal team.

00:25:30.000 Okay, in just one second, we're gonna get to Joe Biden and his awful plans.

00:25:34.000 We'll get to that in just one second, then we'll get to COVID and everything else that's been happening over the weekend, because there's a lot.

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00:26:50.000 OK.

00:26:51.000 Meanwhile, quick note here.

00:26:52.000 So there's a story that came out from Michigan.

00:26:54.000 A couple of dozen protesters, according to the Detroit Free Press, a couple of dozen protesters gathered in front of Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's home Saturday night, shouting through megaphones against the certification of the election, demanding a forensic audit.

00:27:05.000 A portion of the demonstration was broadcast live on Facebook around 930 p.m.

00:27:08.000 The protesters are seen walking up to Benson's Detroit home, some wearing paraphernalia from the Trump campaign, carrying American flags.

00:27:15.000 John V.F.

00:27:16.000 Peters, who posted a live video, said we are over here in the freaking dead of night, man.

00:27:19.000 We are letting her know we're not taking this BS election.

00:27:21.000 We're not standing down.

00:27:22.000 We're not giving up. 0.90

00:27:23.000 You're not going to take this election from a man who earned it completely 100% by a freaking landslide.

00:27:27.000 This isn't over.

00:27:29.000 Benson said the protesters gathered in front of her home as she and her four-year-old son were finished putting up Christmas decorations.

00:27:34.000 Okay, so... Basic rule of thumb here.

00:27:38.000 No matter how pissed off you are about the election, how about this?

00:27:40.000 Stay away from people's houses. 1.00

00:27:41.000 We're gonna have to share this country after this is all over.

00:27:44.000 I said this to the left, and I'll say this to everybody.

00:27:46.000 Stay away from other people's houses. 0.52

00:27:48.000 It was bad when the left descended on Tucker Carlson's house.

00:27:50.000 It is bad when restaurants throw Sarah Huckabee Sanders out. 1.00

00:27:53.000 And it is bad when you descend on somebody's home, where they are with their children, because you don't like something that is happening in politics.

00:27:59.000 Do not do it. It is a bad thing.

00:28:01.000 And meanwhile, speaking of things that are bad happening in American politics, so Joe Biden has been promoted as this magical sort of moderate who's gonna bring the country together, which of course is a joke.

00:28:10.000 He's not a moderate, nor is he a magical, magical man.

00:28:13.000 Joe Biden says, we're gonna need to take the vitriol out of politics.

00:28:16.000 Here was Biden over the weekend.

00:28:18.000 We've got to take the vitriol out of politics.

00:28:22.000 I know there's a lot of people on both sides who want to continue to go after and punish the opposition.

00:28:29.000 I get that.

00:28:31.000 I get the fact that an awful lot of Americans are disappointed I was elected president.

00:28:36.000 Fortunately, there's 7 million more that were happy than disappointed, but I get that.

00:28:43.000 And there's a lot of Democrats who are angry and want to strike back at Republicans.

00:28:49.000 What I've said from the beginning, and I think I've conducted myself this way throughout my career, I learned that early lesson.

00:28:58.000 It's always appropriate to question other men and women's judgment, but never their motive.

00:29:02.000 Okay, yeah, I'm sure of that. 0.95

00:29:03.000 He literally said that Mitt Romney wanted to put black people back in chains. 0.94

00:29:08.000 He created borking and then bragged about it. 0.54

00:29:12.000 You know, Joe Biden is not a unifying figure.

00:29:13.000 And how do you know he's not a unifying figure?

00:29:15.000 Because he has now picked Xavier Becerra to lead the Department of Health and Human Services, should he be inaugurated president in January.

00:29:21.000 For those who don't know Xavier Becerra, the man is a radical leftist.

00:29:23.000 He's a radical leftist.

00:29:24.000 He's been Attorney General of the state of California, where I was a resident until very, very recently. 0.69

00:29:29.000 And he is just terrible. 0.82

00:29:31.000 He's absolutely terrible.

00:29:32.000 So not only has he spent his career trying to protect Obamacare, but also he has gone after pro-lifers in extraordinary ways.

00:29:40.000 Susan B. Anthony list put out a statement that said far from uniting the country Biden has proven yet again He's an extremist on abortion. This is going to SBA list president Marjorie Dannenfelser But Sarah is aggressively pro-abortion a foe of free speech as attorney general of california He continued what his predecessor kamala harris started by persecuting citizen journalists who exposed Planned Parenthood's role in baby parts trafficking Not only that he went all the way to the supreme court to try to force california's pro-life pregnancy centers to advertise and refer for abortion a policy the court rejected as unconstitutional

00:30:08.000 And Congress even voted in favor of partial birth abortion.

00:30:12.000 This pic underscores the importance of winning in Georgia to prevent pro-abortion forces from taking control of the United States Senate.

00:30:17.000 So Becerra, what's being referred to there, is a case in which Becerra went directly after David DeLayden.

00:30:23.000 So David DeLayden was a pro-life activist, and Becerra announced charges against DeLayden and somebody else working with him, a woman named Sandra Merritt, saying the state would not tolerate the criminal recording of confidential conversations.

00:30:33.000 What were those confidential conversations?

00:30:36.000 DeLayden did secret recording, For reporting purposes of Planned Parenthood employees talking about selling fetal tissue.

00:30:45.000 Right?

00:30:45.000 And so, what did Xavier Becerra do in the state of California?

00:30:47.000 Did he turn on Planned Parenthood?

00:30:49.000 Did he investigate Planned Parenthood?

00:30:50.000 Of course not!

00:30:51.000 Of course not.

00:30:51.000 Instead, the state of California, led by Xavier Becerra, went after Dladen.

00:30:57.000 So DeLayden claimed the video showed footage of Planned Parenthood selling the tissue.

00:31:01.000 Planned Parenthood said the footage was misleadingly edited, of course.

00:31:04.000 Now, they were talking pretty openly about the cost of particular pieces of fetal tissue that they were selling.

00:31:10.000 Planned Parenthood.

00:31:11.000 And they did talk about that pretty openly in the tape.

00:31:13.000 And then they claimed that it was deceivingly edited and all of this.

00:31:16.000 So Becerra didn't go after Planned Parenthood, of course. 1.00

00:31:18.000 Instead, he initiated prosecutions against DeLayden and Merritt.

00:31:23.000 So this is who Joe Biden has decided should lead up HHS. 0.80

00:31:27.000 Which is just ridiculous on its face. 0.87

00:31:30.000 And one of the reasons that Biden selected him is because, of course, Joe Biden needs more Latinos in the cabinet. 0.84

00:31:34.000 Because Joe Biden has already vowed that he's going to select people based on the color of their skin, rather than the content of their character.

00:31:41.000 There was worry that he was actually going to make him Attorney General.

00:31:43.000 So, frankly, I'm a little bit relieved that he's talking about Becerra for HHS as opposed to Becerra over at AG.

00:31:50.000 I can't even imagine who he's going to put over at AG.

00:31:52.000 I mean, that's just a disaster area.

00:31:55.000 The HHS position is the third role at the helm of the Biden team's pandemic response to be filled in the past few days.

00:32:01.000 Biden is looking to Jeff Zients, the co-chair of the transition, as the White House coronavirus coordinator.

00:32:06.000 He led the White House National Economic Council under Barack Obama.

00:32:09.000 And of course, he is looking at Vivek Murthy, co-chair of the administration's COVID Advisory Board, as the Surgeon General.

00:32:16.000 He's also giving a special slot to Anthony Fauci.

00:32:18.000 Quick note on Anthony Fauci, by the way.

00:32:20.000 So, I was just at the local grocery store the other day, and they had some of these magazines out.

00:32:27.000 And there, looking at me, glowing from the cover of like an InTouch magazine, was Anthony Fauci.

00:32:32.000 And I thought to myself, isn't that guy like just the COVID relief guy?

00:32:36.000 Isn't that guy like the COVID guy?

00:32:38.000 Why is it that he is on the cover of InTouch magazine?

00:32:41.000 Why is he being given glossy treatment by the entire press for being an advisor with regard to a coronavirus pandemic?

00:32:50.000 And the answer, of course, is because he was perceived as anti-Trump, he's seen as a critic of Trump, and therefore he gets the rosy treatment.

00:32:56.000 Deborah Birx never got that treatment because Deborah Birx, as much as she disagreed with Trump, really kept it under wraps and understood she had a job to do within the framework of an administration. 0.58

00:33:04.000 But my respect for Anthony Fauci drops fairly radically once you start posing for magazine covers like In Touch.

00:33:12.000 With your stethoscope around your neck.

00:33:13.000 At that point, you're just doing a little bit of self-promotion.

00:33:15.000 Okay, speaking of self-promotion, COVID policy continues to be extraordinarily bad across the country.

00:33:22.000 So California has now locked down tens of millions of citizens.

00:33:26.000 According to CNN, Southern California and San Joaquin Valley residents will be under a stay-at-home order after the ICU capacity in the two regions fell below 15%, triggering a mandate issued by the governor earlier this week that aims to bring down the soaring number of COVID-19 hospitalizations.

00:33:38.000 Now, to be fair, there is flex capacity at some of these hospitals, A lot of these hospitals always run at near capacity in terms of the ICUs because you're always doing surgeries.

00:33:48.000 Hospitals that run at 50% capacity are not called hospitals.

00:33:51.000 They are now called boarded up old hospitals that don't exist anymore because the way the system works is that the beds have to be filled in order for people to get paid.

00:33:58.000 So instead, what we're talking about is telling people to stay home if they have optional surgeries so that we can fill those ICU beds with people who have COVID.

00:34:04.000 That does not mean that we have not seen a surge.

00:34:06.000 We have indeed seen a surge.

00:34:07.000 It does mean that all of the talk, especially in major areas with pretty significant medical resources like Los Angeles, they're talking about telling people to stay home.

00:34:14.000 They're not talking about L.A.

00:34:15.000 being completely overwhelmed by COVID cases.

00:34:20.000 The California order went into effect last night at midnight for 27 million people.

00:34:26.000 It includes LA and San Diego.

00:34:28.000 That follows a proactive order issued by six San Francisco Bay Area jurisdictions on Friday for its almost 6 million residents.

00:34:34.000 It also went into effect on Sunday.

00:34:36.000 Again, Newsom on Thursday announced any region that fell below the 15% ICU capacity threshold would be placed under stay-at-home orders.

00:34:44.000 Southern California reported that its ICU availability fell to 12.5% on Saturday.

00:34:50.000 In San Joaquin, it was 8.6%.

00:34:53.000 California has been surging.

00:34:54.000 Now, quick note.

00:34:55.000 California never stopped its lockdown.

00:34:56.000 So for all the talk about harsher lockdowns and stay-at-home orders, California never went back to business as usual.

00:35:01.000 There was no point, really, at which the restaurants opened indoors.

00:35:04.000 There was no point at which people started treating normal, everyday activities as normal, everyday activities.

00:35:09.000 Most of the businesses in L.A.

00:35:11.000 were still boarded up and closed down.

00:35:13.000 People were not going into their regular jobs.

00:35:14.000 This has been true since March.

00:35:16.000 So, the basic idea that government was going to be able to enforce quarantine and this was going to magically quash everything, there's not a lot of evidence that that is the case.

00:35:23.000 Schools that are already open for in-person learning can remain open along with critical infrastructure businesses.

00:35:28.000 Retail businesses can stay open, but only at 20% capacity.

00:35:31.000 Restaurants are limited to takeout and delivery alone.

00:35:33.000 And the order is in effect for at least three weeks.

00:35:37.000 Now, here is one of the problems.

00:35:38.000 These orders, scientifically, do not make a whole hell of a lot of sense.

00:35:42.000 So, for example, you're not allowed to do outdoor dining anymore in, like, LA County.

00:35:47.000 They've decided you're not.

00:35:48.000 The evidence on outdoor dining, there is none that outdoor dining is spreading this thing.

00:35:52.000 There's evidence that indoor dining is spreading this thing. 0.97

00:35:54.000 There's no evidence that outdoor dining is spreading this thing.

00:35:58.000 Nonetheless, they shut down the outdoor dining in LA County.

00:36:00.000 However, under emergency mandates, The film industry is still allowed to have food outdoors, under tents, because the film industry has been deemed essential by the state of California. 0.57

00:36:14.000 So these asshat hypocrites, they're saying that you can't open your restaurant outdoors, but so long as you're working for Gavin Newsom's favorite industry, all of his friends in Hollywood, all the glitterati, well then you can eat at a food tent directly off-site.

00:36:26.000 You can definitely make sure that all of the grips can have their food catered by some sort of food truck, I'm losing everything. 0.98

00:36:32.000 Everything I own is being taken away from me.

00:36:33.000 which, last I checked, is called outdoor dining.

00:36:35.000 In fact, here's one California restaurant owner protesting this over the weekend.

00:36:39.000 I'm losing everything.

00:36:42.000 Everything I own is being taken away from me.

00:36:45.000 And they set up a movie company right next to my outdoor patio, which is right over here.

00:36:51.000 And people wonder why I'm protesting and why I have had enough.

00:37:01.000 And...

00:37:03.000 They have not given us money and they have shut us down.

00:37:06.000 We cannot survive.

00:37:07.000 My staff cannot survive.

00:37:08.000 Okay, she's 100% right.

00:37:11.000 And there she is.

00:37:12.000 You can't see the video.

00:37:13.000 Pointing at a tent that is set up with picnic tables so that this film crew can make sure that they eat outside.

00:37:18.000 So only if you're a member of the special favored industry do you actually get to eat outdoors. 0.97

00:37:22.000 Everybody else, if you're in a restaurant, you are absolutely screwed. 0.96

00:37:25.000 You're done.

00:37:26.000 But if you work for one of Eric Garcetti's favorite industries in Los Angeles, or if you work for one of Gavin Newsom's favorite industries in California, well then you are totally fine.

00:37:34.000 Because so much of this is political.

00:37:36.000 So much of this is about catering to a particular voter base.

00:37:39.000 So much of this is about keeping industries that you like open and closing industries that you don't particularly like.

00:37:44.000 By the way, Eric Garcetti's response to this, so he responded directly to this lady, Erica Garcetti suggested that his heart goes out to her, but we have to stop the virus.

00:37:52.000 He said, my heart goes out to Miss Marsden and the workers of the Pineapple Hill Saloon who have to comply with state and county public health restrictions that close outdoor dining.

00:37:59.000 No one likes these restrictions, but I do support them as our hospital ICU beds filled to capacity and cases have increased by 500%.

00:38:05.000 We must stop this virus before it kills thousands of more Angelenos.

00:38:09.000 But how about that tent that's right there with the outdoor dining?

00:38:12.000 No comment on that from Eric Garcetti.

00:38:14.000 All of which has led the sheriff of one California county to say, I'm not going to enforce these rules.

00:38:18.000 If you think that I'm going to drive up to a business that is serving outdoor dining and shut them down, you got another thing coming.

00:38:22.000 Here's a California sheriff saying this yesterday. 0.87

00:38:25.000 These closures and stay-at-home orders are flat-out ridiculous.

00:38:29.000 The metrics used for closures are unbelievably faulty and are not representative of true numbers and are disastrous for Riverside County.

00:38:37.000 While the Governor's office and the state has threatened action against violators, the Riverside County Sheriff's Department will not be blackmailed, bullied, or used as muscle against Riverside County residents in the enforcement of the Governor's orders.

00:38:52.000 Hey, that is exactly right.

00:38:54.000 Good for that guy.

00:38:55.000 Good for that guy.

00:38:56.000 And just a second, we're gonna bring you proof that full-scale lockdowns aren't all they're cracked up to be.

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00:39:07.000 I'm not saying that you shouldn't wear a mask when you're close to other people.

00:39:09.000 You should wear a mask when you're close to other people.

00:39:11.000 I'm saying the orders in places like L.A.

00:39:12.000 County make no sense and they are politically driven because they make no sense and they are politically driven.

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00:42:35.000 All righty, so all these lockdown orders, they're supposedly going to protect you, right?

00:42:45.000 Well, Griff Witt reporting for the Washington Post, quote, the governor had been sounding the alarm for more than a month.

00:42:50.000 By mid-November, it was clear to Michelle Lujan Grisham She would need to take extreme measures to head off the most serious emergency New Mexico has ever faced.

00:42:57.000 With COVID-19 cases rising exponentially and hospital beds dwindling, she dragged her state back to the darkest days of spring when restaurant dining was banned, non-essential businesses were closed, residents were ordered to stay inside unless absolutely necessary.

00:43:09.000 She said, quote, New Mexico has crushed this virus before twice.

00:43:12.000 We're going to do it again.

00:43:14.000 Three weeks later, victory remains a distant prospect.

00:43:16.000 Instead, Lujan Grisham, a Democrat, is on the verge of acknowledging just how grim conditions have become.

00:43:20.000 She will, she said in an interview, soon allow hospitals to move to crisis standards, a move that frees them to ration care depending on a patient's likelihood of surviving.

00:43:28.000 Given the severe strain on medical systems statewide and the lack of available ICU beds as COVID hospitalizations near 1,000 statewide, according to Jason Mitchell, the chief medical officer at Presbyterian Healthcare Services, he said, there was likely no other choice.

00:43:40.000 He said, we're headed there very quickly.

00:43:41.000 There's no more room at the inn.

00:43:44.000 New Mexico has consistently won praise among public health experts for its aggressive approach to combating the virus.

00:43:48.000 Lujan Grisham issued a stay-at-home order in March when there were fewer than 100 cases statewide.

00:43:52.000 She's gone as far as locking down entire cities to stem the spread. 0.97

00:43:55.000 A study by Oxford University found the state's approach was among the most restrictive and also the most successful, with New Mexico dodging the spring and summer surges that afflicted so many other states.

00:44:03.000 But with pandemic fatigue growing and political resistance building, New Mexico has not escaped the outbreak raging nationwide this fall.

00:44:10.000 Even though there's evidence the governor's November shutdown orders are helping reduce case numbers, experts say there's only so much they can do with a virus that zealously exploits any weakness.

00:44:18.000 Okay, so here's the bottom line.

00:44:19.000 Unless you lock people in bubbles in their homes, then this thing is going to move through the community.

00:44:25.000 Because that has been true literally the entire time.

00:44:28.000 Locking down is not the answer.

00:44:30.000 Treating people as rational human beings is the answer.

00:44:32.000 And one of the bigger problems here is, again, this goes right back to the argument we were making at the beginning about voter fraud.

00:44:37.000 Okay, when you have sources who make themselves untrustworthy and then they ask you to do a thing, even if the thing happens to be correct or factual, you are not going to trust the sources.

00:44:46.000 When you had your medical sources telling you, first of all, you should go out and party it up in February because the Wuhan virus wasn't gonna hurt you, which is literally what we had Democrats and Republicans, by the way, doing, Then people are not going to pay attention to you.

00:44:57.000 And then when you say, don't wear a mask, masks are useless, as Anthony Fauci said in early March.

00:45:01.000 People are not going to pay attention to you later when you're like, you need to wear a mask everywhere.

00:45:04.000 And then when you say, we need to lock this thing down for 15 days and then we'll be good.

00:45:08.000 And then, you lock everybody down for the rest of their lives.

00:45:11.000 And when you say, here's a lockdown order, but it's not gonna apply to me, I'm gonna go out to a restaurant.

00:45:11.000 People aren't gonna listen.

00:45:15.000 People are not gonna listen to you.

00:45:16.000 When you blow out your own credibility, instead of saying to people, listen, here are the facts.

00:45:20.000 The fact is, this thing, striated by age, right?

00:45:23.000 If you're very young, if you're a kid, it ain't gonna hurt you.

00:45:25.000 If you're under the age of 20, the likelihood that you're going to be dead from this disease is lower than the likelihood you will die of the flu.

00:45:31.000 If you are older than that, and you don't have a significant preexisting condition, there's a 99.5% chance that you're going to be fine.

00:45:39.000 These are the actual stats, by the way.

00:45:41.000 By the way, that 99.5% stat statistic, that is true for the entire population overall, including people with pre-existing conditions.

00:45:47.000 Because right now, the best information we have is that this thing has about a 0.05% death rate overall for the population.

00:45:56.000 That this thing is not, sorry, a 0.5% death rate for the entire population.

00:46:02.000 Okay, so that means that 995 out of every 1,000 human beings who get this, including people who are elderly, including people with pre-existing conditions, will live.

00:46:11.000 So, instead of talking to people as though they are reasonable and telling them what they can do that is reasonable, instead, you set these outside standards.

00:46:18.000 I do.

00:46:18.000 I get it.

00:46:19.000 I understand that if you want to protect people, you think that you're going to set what, in Judaism, you call a fence around the law.

00:46:24.000 The problem is that when you set fences that nobody's going to abide by, they breach the fence and then they proceed to run roughshod over the rest of the recommendations.

00:46:32.000 It also happens to be true that when you propagate misinformation routinely, that you can't swivel on a dime and hope people will trust you.

00:46:38.000 So here's an example.

00:46:40.000 Here's a great example of people propagating information that just is not true, and then reversing themselves willy-nilly.

00:46:45.000 So for months, we heard that if you open schools, it was a disaster.

00:46:48.000 Mostly we heard that from a media that was convinced that Trump had to be wrong about everything.

00:46:52.000 Because Trump was out there saying, you need to open the schools.

00:46:54.000 This is silly, it's bad, it's hurting kids.

00:46:56.000 And teachers unions were saying, no, no, no, we need to keep the schools closed. 0.70

00:47:00.000 And for months, the media were like, you know what? 0.78

00:47:02.000 Trump's the worst, man.

00:47:03.000 Let's keep those schools closed. 0.99

00:47:04.000 We don't know how dangerous it's going to be.

00:47:05.000 It could kill little kids. 0.99

00:47:06.000 We don't know.

00:47:07.000 Doesn't matter.

00:47:07.000 The stats show that little kids are not dying of this.

00:47:09.000 It still could kill little kids, right?

00:47:11.000 It's deeply, deeply dangerous.

00:47:13.000 And then people take that to heart.

00:47:15.000 And this leads to footage like this footage.

00:47:17.000 This is from Oregon of a teacher stopping an anti-lockdown protester to scream and shout like a crazy person because she is very upset that people are protesting against lockdowns.

00:47:26.000 And she's talking about how her parents, her kids' families are dying of COVID and how she's at risk.

00:47:31.000 Here's a little bit of that footage.

00:47:33.000 Do you know why I'm here?

00:47:35.000 I'm a teacher.

00:47:39.000 I work at school.

00:47:41.000 Now!

00:47:51.000 You know, I am a teacher.

00:47:53.000 I teach students. 1.00

00:47:55.000 I'm gonna kill or die here. 1.00

00:47:59.000 And that sort of hysteria. 0.99

00:48:02.000 I mean, that is hysteria.

00:48:03.000 There's no other way to put it.

00:48:04.000 That sort of hysteria is utterly unjustified, but it's been pushed by teachers unions and by the media.

00:48:10.000 The Chicago's teachers union over the weekend Tweet it out.

00:48:13.000 It's got 20,000, 28,000 members.

00:48:16.000 They tweeted out, quote, Sexism, racism, and misogyny.

00:48:22.000 Sexism, racism, and misogyny.

00:48:24.000 This has been the narrative of the left.

00:48:24.000 Right?

00:48:26.000 It's been the narrative of the media.

00:48:27.000 So, why exactly would we trust the media when it comes to either shutting down or reopening?

00:48:33.000 Because here is now the editorial board of the Washington Post coming along in December, right?

00:48:37.000 In the middle of the worst outbreak that we've seen thus far.

00:48:39.000 An editorial board that was like, ah, you know, we're not sure about this whole school thing.

00:48:43.000 We're not, you know.

00:48:44.000 Here is the editorial board of the Washington Post.

00:48:46.000 What could have changed in the last month?

00:48:47.000 Could there have been an election or something?

00:48:49.000 Because here's the new headline.

00:48:50.000 Students have already lost too much time.

00:48:51.000 They need to be back in classrooms.

00:48:53.000 Oh, weird.

00:48:54.000 Because those of us who were saying this months ago were castigated and are still being castigated by the teachers unions as people who don't care about the lives of teachers who are bad, uncaring, unfeeling evil.

00:49:04.000 Now here's the Washington Post that was propagating a lot of this panic porn for months on end.

00:49:08.000 And they're like, you know what?

00:49:09.000 It's time for kids to go back to school.

00:49:10.000 Yeah, no bleep Sherlock.

00:49:11.000 But you think I'm going to trust you on that?

00:49:14.000 Wrongo! 1.00

00:49:15.000 Not going to trust you on that.

00:49:16.000 I'm going to trust people who've been fairly consistent throughout this whole thing, looking for reasonable measures.

00:49:21.000 But here comes the Washington Post, and why look at that?

00:49:24.000 They think Joe Biden was elected president, and now they've reversed themselves on schooling.

00:49:28.000 Since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, teachers, principals, administrators, and parents across the U.S.

00:49:32.000 have worked mightily to help students keep learning.

00:49:34.000 Students develop new curricula, schools develop new curricula, provided children with portable computers labor to give some semblance of structure to remote learning. Even with these efforts, remote learning has failed to provide anything approaching the quality of education that can be delivered by a teacher in a classroom. It's clear that there are pernicious effects of keeping children out of schools. We recently asked a top official in a Washington area jurisdiction who insisted on anonymity, why there wasn't more of a push to figure out ways to return children to the classroom.

00:50:02.000 The answer was there was no political pressure.

00:50:03.000 Parents of means can give their kids the help and resources they need or switch them to a private school.

00:50:07.000 Parents of minority or disadvantaged students with the most to lose have the least clout. 0.66

00:50:11.000 Well, maybe it's because you in the media didn't do your damn jobs on the COVID pandemic all the way from the beginning, and you're still not doing your job. 0.94

00:50:17.000 You're still not doing your job. 0.98

00:50:19.000 You continue to purvey the panic porn that suggests that everybody is equally likely to die of this virus.

00:50:25.000 You keep suggesting over and over that full-scale lockdowns that are completely hypocritical in their actual application are totally fine.

00:50:30.000 When's the last time, by the way, you saw a business owner who'd been completely destroyed on CNN or MSNBC?

00:50:34.000 You only see it on Fox News.

00:50:36.000 You only hear about that from my show or shows like it.

00:50:39.000 You won't hear it in the media.

00:50:40.000 But this is the media that asks you to trust them?

00:50:42.000 This is the same media that's blaming Trump for a lack of COVID relief.

00:50:45.000 Well, now Nancy Pelosi has completely flipped on COVID relief, and nobody in the media will even notice it.

00:50:49.000 So Nancy Pelosi, who has held up a COVID relief package for months on end for no apparent political reason other than to get beyond the election because she thought it would hurt Trump, now she says, we're not leaving Washington, D.C.

00:50:59.000 without the relief.

00:51:00.000 And the media are like, oh, look at that.

00:51:01.000 Nancy Pelosi, leader.

00:51:02.000 It's incredible. 1.00

00:51:03.000 Here's Nancy Pelosi being a giant hypocrite. 1.00

00:51:06.000 We have to have an omnibus, and we're hoping that that will accelerate the discussions on the omnibus. 0.98

00:51:12.000 We are going to keep government open.

00:51:15.000 You know, we're not going to have a continuing resolution, but we need to take the time to do that.

00:51:21.000 And then, as I said, we saw a framework.

00:51:25.000 They're putting Now they have to turn it into text.

00:51:30.000 And then so we'll take the time we need and we must get it done.

00:51:33.000 And we must get it done by this before we leave.

00:51:38.000 We cannot leave without it.

00:51:39.000 I mean, and the media just went right along with this.

00:51:42.000 The media are just like, oh, look at that.

00:51:43.000 Nancy Pelosi leader.

00:51:45.000 Yeah, I trust you guys.

00:51:46.000 I trust you guys on COVID.

00:51:47.000 I trust you guys on COVID relief.

00:51:48.000 I trust you guys on voter fraud.

00:51:49.000 Or I don't trust you on any of this stuff.

00:51:52.000 It is your lack of credibility that has led to a rise of radical, almost deconstructionist skepticism in the very notion that there is such a thing as a fact or truth.

00:52:01.000 Now, there are a lot of people in the media who've said we live in a post-truth era.

00:52:03.000 Yeah, you created it.

00:52:04.000 You created the post-truth era.

00:52:06.000 If you want a revision of that era, if you want to go back to a truth-free era, how about this?

00:52:11.000 How about you be the skeptics?

00:52:13.000 And I mean that you need to actually check your own side.

00:52:16.000 Ask tough questions of Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden, and maybe, maybe at that point, somebody will start, from the right, thinking they are a credible source. 0.97

00:52:23.000 Otherwise, shut up. 0.93

00:52:25.000 Nobody trusts you. 1.00

00:52:26.000 I mean, you're ridiculous. 1.00

00:52:27.000 You're just ridiculous. 1.00

00:52:29.000 Alrighty. 0.99

00:52:29.000 Meanwhile, there's a fascinating piece. 0.99

00:52:32.000 That I think demonstrates the blindness of the left when it comes to deep economic issues in the United States.

00:52:39.000 It's a piece in the New York Times today that I want to go through in a little bit of detail because it really is indicative of where we are in our current political discourse.

00:52:46.000 And it demonstrates that for so much of our current political discourse, a lot of it is about how members of the left simply refuse to acknowledge that their policies have ever failed under any circumstances ever.

00:52:55.000 It's pretty impressive.

00:52:56.000 Okay, so there's a piece in the New York Times over the weekend called, Why Did Racial Progress Stall in America?

00:53:02.000 It's written by Shailen Romney Garrett and Robert Putnam.

00:53:05.000 So I've recommended Robert Putnam's work on the program before.

00:53:07.000 Robert Putnam has done some really interesting work on isolation in America.

00:53:11.000 He wrote a book called Bowling Alone, in which he discussed the fact that multiculturalism and diversity might not actually strengthen a community.

00:53:18.000 What strengthens a community is a common sense of vision.

00:53:21.000 And then you can have whatever kind of racial or ethnic diversity you want, so long as everybody shares the same kind of common philosophy, right?

00:53:26.000 So inside a church, you can have a very ethnically diverse church and everything still works perfectly.

00:53:31.000 But if you have a bunch of people who conflict on fundamental ideas, then diversity is not in fact a strength.

00:53:35.000 Diversity could be very divisive, which is just common sense.

00:53:38.000 He writes about this in Bowling Alone.

00:53:39.000 He talks about the death of social institutions.

00:53:41.000 So a lot of his work is actually quite good, Robert Putnam.

00:53:43.000 But this piece is really indicative of the tremendous blindness the left has to the impact of its own preferred government policies.

00:53:51.000 So according to this piece in the New York Times, In the popular narrative of American history, black Americans made essentially no measurable progress toward equality with white Americans until the lightning bolt changes of the Civil Rights Revolution.

00:54:02.000 If that narrative were charted along the course of the 20th century, it would be a flat line for decades, followed by a sharp, dramatic upturn toward equality beginning in the 60s, the shape of a hockey stick.

00:54:11.000 In many ways, this hockey stick image of racial inequality is accurate. 0.98

00:54:14.000 Until the banning of de jure segregation and discrimination, very little progress was made in many domains.

00:54:18.000 Representation in politics and mainstream media, job quality and job security, access to professional schools and careers, or toward residential integration.

00:54:25.000 However, on a number of other measures, the shape of the trend is surprisingly different.

00:54:29.000 This is something that I've pointed out, Walter Williams, the late economist, late great Walter Williams pointed out, Thomas Sowell has pointed this out, is that actually black economic progress before the Civil Rights Act was stronger year on year than it was after the Civil Rights Act year on year in the black community.

00:54:43.000 There's a tremendous myth that has been purveyed by the media, which is that everything sucked until the Civil Rights Act for black Americans.

00:54:49.000 And again, this is correct that when it comes to actually by law allowing segregation, that's true.

00:54:54.000 You still had segregation that was overtly practiced in the South up till the mid-60s, but the notion that black Americans were unable to economically progress in the United States generally, and particularly outside the South, was absolutely 100% not true before the Civil Rights Act, right?

00:55:08.000 Just statistically speaking, this is the point these authors are going to make, and then they're going to completely miss the point.

00:55:13.000 So they say in our book, The Upswing, how America came together a century ago and how we can do it again.

00:55:17.000 We examined century-long data, tracking outcomes by race and health, education, income, wealth, and voting.

00:55:21.000 What we found surprised us.

00:55:22.000 Shouldn't have, because this has been well-known for a long time.

00:55:25.000 In terms of material well-being, black Americans were moving toward parity with white Americans well before the victories of the civil rights era.

00:55:31.000 What's more, after the passage of civil rights legislation, those trends toward racial parity slowed, stopped, even reversed.

00:55:38.000 Understanding how and why not only reveals why America is so fractured today, but illuminates the path forward toward a more perfect union.

00:55:44.000 In measure after measure, according to these authors, remember these are folks on the left, positive change for black Americans was actually faster in the decades before the Civil Rights Revolution than in the decades after.

00:55:54.000 Now by the way, this is not an argument that the Civil Rights Revolution was bad.

00:55:57.000 I'm going to explain in a second where everything went wrong in terms of Racial inequality in the United States, because it was moving toward parity.

00:56:05.000 Then the Civil Rights Revolution happens, which is definitely a good thing. 1.00

00:56:08.000 And then things slow.

00:56:09.000 So why did they slow?

00:56:10.000 Their answer is wrong.

00:56:12.000 Their diagnosis is wrong, but their actual description is correct.

00:56:18.000 So they point out, the life expectancy gap between black and white Americans narrowed most rapidly between 1905 and 1947, after which the rate of improvement was much more modest.

00:56:26.000 By 1995, the life expectancy ratio was the same as it had been in 1961.

00:56:31.000 There's been some progress in the ensuing two decades, but this is in part due to an increase in premature deaths among working-class whites.

00:56:36.000 In other words, the white life expectancy went down.

00:56:38.000 It's not that black life expectancy went up.

00:56:40.000 They point out the black-white ratio of high school completion improved dramatically between the 1940s and the early 1970s, after which it slowed, never reaching parity.

00:56:48.000 College completion followed the same trajectory until 1970, and then sharply reversed.

00:56:52.000 So black Americans, more and more of them were going to college, more and more of them were graduating high school, and then we hit the 1970s and it started to reverse.

00:56:58.000 Racial integration in K-12 education at the national level began much earlier than is often believed.

00:57:03.000 Accelerated sharply in the wake of Brown vs. Board, the trend leveled off in the early 70s, followed by a modest trend toward re-segregation.

00:57:10.000 Also, income by race converged at the greatest rate between 1940 and 1970.

00:57:13.000 rate between 1940 and 1970. As of 2018, Black-White income disparities were almost exactly the same as they were in 1968, 50 years ago. Even taking into account the emergence of the Black middle class, Black Americans on the whole have experienced flat or downward mobility in recent decades.

00:57:30.000 The racial gap in homeownership steadily narrowed between 1900 and 1970 and then stagnated and then reversed.

00:57:35.000 The racial wealth gap is now growing as Black homeownership plummets.

00:57:39.000 Long-run data on national trends in voting by race is patchy.

00:57:41.000 The South saw a dramatic increase in Black voter registration between 1940 and 1970, followed by decline and stagnation.

00:57:48.000 What data we have on national black voter turnout indicate nearly all the gains toward equality with white voter turnout occurred between 52 and 64 before the Voting Rights Act passed and then almost entirely halted for the rest of the century.

00:58:00.000 These data reveal a too slow but unmistakable climb toward racial parity throughout most of the century that begins to flatline around 1970, a picture quite unlike the hockey stick of historical shorthand.

00:58:10.000 Okay, now, here is where they go wrong.

00:58:13.000 So they get the description correct, and then they get the diagnosis completely wrong, because the picture they're painting is now a much more accurate picture, which is black income growth, life expectancy, Job occupancy.

00:58:26.000 All of these things are rising steadily up until you hit about 1970, and then everything flatlines or reverses.

00:58:31.000 So, what exactly happened?

00:58:32.000 Here is their answer, and it's wrong.

00:58:34.000 Okay, so here is the answer of leftists who cannot understand, or liberals rather, who cannot understand that their policy prescriptions have failed.

00:58:40.000 They say, we draw attention to the unexpected shape and timing of these trends, not as an attempt to argue that things are or were better for black Americans than they might appear.

00:58:47.000 Quite the contrary.

00:58:48.000 Gains on the part of black Americans were due almost entirely to their fleeing the South by the millions during the Great Migration, right?

00:58:52.000 This part is true. 0.80

00:58:53.000 That if you leave the South, which is segregated, and you move to Chicago, LA, Detroit, Philadelphia, this meant better access to healthcare, education, and economic opportunities.

00:59:02.000 It is also true that there is a persistent reality of exclusion, segregation, and racial violence in a lot of these places.

00:59:08.000 In the last half century, however, collective progress has halted.

00:59:10.000 Many who have fought so hard for this progress have now lived to see it reversed.

00:59:15.000 He says it is against, these authors say, it is against this backdrop of stillborn hopes and intergenerational reversals that Black Lives Matter protesters have taken to the streets.

00:59:23.000 Okay, and so the implication is that things are the same in 1968 as they were for black Americans like today, which is just not true.

00:59:30.000 Okay, it's not true legally speaking.

00:59:32.000 It is not true certainly with regard to policing.

00:59:35.000 So what is their explanation for why the reversal?

00:59:37.000 So they have two answers.

00:59:39.000 The first is simple and familiar, white backlash.

00:59:41.000 Substantial progress toward white support for black equality was made in the first half of the 20th century.

00:59:45.000 When push came to shove, many white Americans were reluctant to live up to those principles.

00:59:49.000 Although clear majorities supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act, a national poll conducted shortly after its passage showed that 68% of Americans wanted moderation in its enforcement.

00:59:58.000 In fact, many felt the Johnson administration was moving too fast in implementing integration.

01:00:04.000 Johnson's rejection in 68 of the Kerner Commission's recommendations of sweeping reforms to address racial inequality suggested his fine-tuned political sensitivity had detected a sea change in white attitudes since he, more than any other previous president, had led the project of racial redress. 0.56

01:00:18.000 Okay, and then he tries to compare this to the heels of Reconstruction when there was this big backlash against Reconstruction in the aftermath of the Civil War.

01:00:28.000 Okay, then he talks about the second idea.

01:00:32.000 Okay, the second idea is what he says is the I-we-I curve.

01:00:35.000 This is Robert Putnam and Sheryl, sorry, Shailene Romney Garrett.

01:00:41.000 He talks about the I-we, they talk about the I-we-I curve.

01:00:44.000 This is their second explanation for something bad that happened.

01:00:46.000 So first is white people got bad.

01:00:48.000 Like in 68, suddenly they've been getting better, and then they just got bad in 68.

01:00:52.000 And then they say there's something called the I.B.I.

01:00:54.000 Curve, an inverted U charting America's gradual climb from self-centeredness to a sense of shared values, followed by a steep descent back into egoism over the next half century.

01:01:02.000 Ah, the soul of Americans was completely corrupted. 0.94

01:01:05.000 So basically, everything sucked at the beginning of the 20th century. 0.62

01:01:08.000 Then we got very community oriented, thanks to FDR and LBJ.

01:01:11.000 And then we reversed and went into the greed years.

01:01:14.000 Again, this is just a full-on liberal narrative that happens not to be true.

01:01:18.000 These authors say the moment America took its foot off the gas in rectifying racial inequality largely coincides with the moment Americans we decades gave way to the era of of I.

01:01:26.000 At the mid-60s peak of the I-we-I curve, long-delayed moves toward racial inclusion had raised hopes for further improvements, but those hopes went unrealized as the whole nation shifted toward a less egalitarian ideal. A central feature of America's I decades has been a shift away from shared responsibilities toward individual rights and a culture of narcissism.

01:01:43.000 Economic inequality has skyrocketed.

01:01:45.000 Along with it have come massive disparities in political influence, a growing concentration of political economic power in the hands of a few billionaires. 0.94

01:01:51.000 Now, here's why this is so ridiculous.

01:01:52.000 On an economic level, the government is way bigger than it was in the 60s. 0.90

01:01:55.000 Like, way bigger.

01:01:56.000 Regulations are significantly more restrictive in many areas of American life now than they were back in the 1960s, because we have literally hundreds of thousands of pages of regulations that have been promulgated ever since.

01:02:07.000 The government has never spent more money than it is right now.

01:02:09.000 We are spending $4 trillion a year.

01:02:11.000 So this idea that you are now freer than you ever were economically in the United States is just not true.

01:02:17.000 But say these authors, the lessons of America's I We I century are thus twofold.

01:02:22.000 First, we Americans have gotten ourselves out of a mess remarkably similar to the one we're in now by rediscovering the spirit of community that has defined our nation from its inception.

01:02:29.000 We turned the tide from I to we once before and we can do it again. 1.00

01:02:33.000 But we can be defined in more inclusive or exclusive terms.

01:02:35.000 We have to be more inclusive in the definition of we.

01:02:38.000 Okay, so all of this ignores what actually happened in the 1960s and 70s.

01:02:42.000 So what actually happened in the 1960s and 70s is there was a building momentum inside the United States, an excellent, great momentum toward racial equality in law, right?

01:02:50.000 The basic idea was going to be that everyone was going to be given the same opportunities of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States.

01:02:56.000 Everyone would be finally given the guarantees of the 14th Amendment, equal protection under law.

01:03:01.000 And racism would be officially abolished.

01:03:03.000 There would be no government programs that were explicitly designed along the basis of race.

01:03:08.000 And those opportunities would be open.

01:03:10.000 Okay, the story of struggle of black Americans triumphantly moving toward racial progress and economic progress in the face of actual legal barriers is just, I mean, it's an unbelievable story of bravery and greatness over the beginning of the, from the end of the Civil War to 1965.

01:03:28.000 And then by 1970, everything is reversing.

01:03:30.000 Why?

01:03:30.000 It is not because American souls suddenly were put on back burner, because Americans suddenly became selfish again or something like that.

01:03:38.000 And it is not because it is not because of quote-unquote white backlash where white people who had literally just said, OK, how about this?

01:03:45.000 How about we actually get rid of all of this discrimination in law?

01:03:48.000 They're like, you know what?

01:03:48.000 Now that we did that, we're going to discriminate.

01:03:51.000 There's another possibility, and the possibility is there was a very change in the definition of what constituted racial discrimination in the United States.

01:03:57.000 This is a point that Shelby Steele has made.

01:03:59.000 It's a point Christopher Caldwell has made in his book, The Age of Entitlement.

01:04:03.000 The change in definition was made by LBJ himself.

01:04:06.000 The change in definition was, instead of racial equality being provided under law, in other words, the law cannot discriminate against you, instead, Racial equality would be enforced by law.

01:04:16.000 Racial equality in outcome, right? 0.85

01:04:18.000 Lyndon Baines Johnson suggested that the goal was not to simply make the playing field level.

01:04:23.000 The point was to push people who had historically been behind up to the starting line of the race.

01:04:27.000 He said this in a very famous speech at Howard University.

01:04:30.000 It's just unfair because there are people who are behind and there are people who are ahead, thanks to historical influences.

01:04:34.000 And the only way for us to make things fair again is to now discriminate against the people who are ahead in favor of the people who are behind.

01:04:40.000 And that's where you get a backlash, right?

01:04:42.000 That's when the government starts to actually impose policies that are not about enforcing equality of rights, but instead enforcing a government idea of what equality of outcome would look like.

01:04:53.000 So one example of this is forced busing, which by the way, wildly unpopular in both white communities and black communities, as it turns out by opinion polling from the 1970s.

01:05:01.000 So instead of saying, okay, every kid has to have equal access to the local school, In the neighborhood in which they live.

01:05:07.000 Instead, they say, you know what?

01:05:08.000 We're looking for a specific racial mix.

01:05:10.000 And in order to do that, we're going to bus your kid to a particular school that is not in your community.

01:05:14.000 Outside of your... This started in Boston, by the way.

01:05:16.000 Outside of your community.

01:05:17.000 And parents went, you know what?

01:05:18.000 I don't want my kid to be part of a social experiment.

01:05:20.000 I want my kid to go to school where I live.

01:05:22.000 And if people live in my neighborhood and they want to go to school, they're great.

01:05:25.000 But I'm not sending my kid all the way across the city to teachers in a school I don't know with kids I don't know.

01:05:29.000 And spending an hour on a bus every morning.

01:05:31.000 I'm moving out to the suburbs.

01:05:32.000 And so you get white flight out of cities like Boston.

01:05:34.000 Is that racism?

01:05:35.000 So the left would say, of course that's racism.

01:05:37.000 That's the evils of the American soul.

01:05:39.000 Or is that just parents being parents and protecting their kids being used in social experimentation? 0.95

01:05:44.000 I wouldn't blame black parents for doing that.

01:05:45.000 I wouldn't blame white parents for doing that.

01:05:46.000 I wouldn't blame any parent for doing that.

01:05:47.000 Because your parent, as a parent, your goal is to protect your child and get them the best available educational opportunity.

01:05:54.000 The best way to end it.

01:05:55.000 If you want to preserve integration in public schools, you let the schools be local and you let black kids go to the local school, whether it is white or black, and you let white kids go to the local school, whether it is white or black.

01:06:04.000 So forced busing is a good example of how the government tried to cram down on popular policy.

01:06:09.000 And it ended up achieving exactly the reverse of what government wanted to do.

01:06:12.000 The same thing is true when it came to welfare programs that were put in place by the LBJ administration.

01:06:17.000 The Johnson administration suddenly started suggesting that there were positive rights, rights to housing, rights to a job, rights to certain levels of remuneration.

01:06:27.000 Right?

01:06:27.000 That there was going to be welfare payments that were made on the basis of single motherhood.

01:06:32.000 And you suddenly see the single motherhood rate start to skyrocket.

01:06:34.000 In 1960, the single motherhood rate in the black community was 20%.

01:06:36.000 Today, it's in excess of 70%.

01:06:38.000 There's a reason for that.

01:06:40.000 The reason for that is government policy.

01:06:42.000 In fact, if you look all the way back to the early 20th century, black Americans had a higher rate of marriage than white Americans did.

01:06:48.000 This is not a cultural thing.

01:06:50.000 This is a government policy created thing.

01:06:52.000 So the mistake that was made in the 1960s was not the pursuit of racial equality under law.

01:06:58.000 It was the pursuit of racial equality as an outcome under the law, which meant the direct application of inequality between citizens.

01:07:06.000 That was the backlash.

01:07:08.000 It did create a backlash.

01:07:09.000 It not only created a backlash, it also undermined the very sort of equal standard that promulgates good living.

01:07:17.000 Because it turns out if you pay people to do bad things decision-wise, they will do bad things decision-wise.

01:07:23.000 But the left believes the government is always the solution, right?

01:07:26.000 So the problem is they can never acknowledge that these government programs were a failure.

01:07:29.000 They can never acknowledge that the war on poverty has been an extraordinary failure.

01:07:33.000 We've spent tens of trillions of dollars in various war on poverty programs, and the poverty rate is about the same now as it was back when they were first started.

01:07:40.000 The racial inequality rates are about the same now as they were back when government first tried to get in the business of guaranteeing an equal outcome.

01:07:47.000 Government should never have been in the business of trying to guarantee an equal outcome.

01:07:50.000 Government's only mandate is equal justice under law.

01:07:54.000 That is the only mandate.

01:07:56.000 Okay, and that mandate, which suggests that there is a regime of rights and that if you properly exercise those rights and you ought to be protected in those rights by the government, that you have a fair shot at success, that's what government should have been doing.

01:08:07.000 So what these sociologists are missing, of course, is the most basic point of all, which is that when you incentivize people differently, then you get different outcomes.

01:08:16.000 Take housing, for example.

01:08:17.000 When you shift the nature of housing from, you're not allowed to discriminate in public housing, to, we are going to subsidize particular types of housing and particular types of community regardless of the financial straits of those communities.

01:08:29.000 You are not, in fact, solving the underlying problems.

01:08:32.000 This is what happened with the subprime mortgage crisis in the 2000s.

01:08:34.000 That was directly related to the Community Reinvestment Act.

01:08:38.000 It was directly related to the fact that the federal government was subsidizing subprime mortgages to people who did not have good credit scores.

01:08:44.000 And it turns out, when the real estate market started to tank, a lot of those people could not pay their debts.

01:08:49.000 Were those people being done a favor?

01:08:52.000 They were not being done a favor.

01:08:53.000 Okay, again, remember those stats.

01:08:55.000 Home ownership gaps between blacks and whites were actually narrowing between 1900 and 1970.

01:09:02.000 And now, black homeownership has been plummeting.

01:09:05.000 That is a result of government policy.

01:09:06.000 It's not a result of selfishness or cruelty.

01:09:09.000 That's a result of government policy that is not directed at incentivizing behavior that leads to homeownership, particularly.

01:09:15.000 Treat people the same under law, and you will get similar behavior from people under law.

01:09:19.000 Treat people differently under law, and you will get people being treated differently under law.

01:09:22.000 This has been true throughout human history.

01:09:24.000 It will continue to be true. 0.98

01:09:25.000 And until the left recognizes this, gaps are going to continue to increase.

01:09:28.000 They're not going to decrease.

01:09:30.000 And all of these All of these supposedly compassionate liberals who believe that government can come in and solve all of these problems and create equality of outcome, they're doing precisely the reverse of what they tried to do.

01:09:41.000 And they're making the country worse in the process because they're implying that if you oppose those programs, then you are not quote-unquote anti-racist.

01:09:47.000 Their whole idea here is that if you believe in equality of rights before the law, this makes you a bad person, right?

01:09:52.000 This is the Ibram Kendi thing.

01:09:54.000 This is the Robin DiAngelo thing. 0.98

01:09:56.000 This is all the morons in the media who keep saying anti-racist when what they actually mean is you oppose the complete destruction of equal justice before law. 0.91

01:10:04.000 Ibram Kendi openly says the only answer to injustices of the past are injustices today. 0.97

01:10:10.000 He overtly calls for the end of individual rights in the name of collective outcomes.

01:10:15.000 And that is what is being pushed right now.

01:10:17.000 And there should be a backlash against that because it's un-American. 0.99

01:10:19.000 Not only is it un-American, it is utterly unproductive and it does not not only unify Americans, it also creates more inequality in effect.

01:10:29.000 The fact that the liberals refuse to recognize this and the fact that the evidence is staring them right in the face.

01:10:34.000 Right in the face.

01:10:35.000 And they just refuse to recognize it.

01:10:36.000 It truly is an incredible, incredible thing.

01:10:39.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content.

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01:11:12.000 President Trump stumps to keep control of the Senate in Georgia.

01:11:16.000 The Supreme Court helps the president's election challenge.

01:11:18.000 And business owners have had enough of California's tyrants.

The Ben Shapiro Show - December 07, 2020

It’s All About Georgia | Ep. 1151

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