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00:00:00.000 President Trump ends the ice surge in Minnesota.

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00:01:02.000 So yesterday, the president of the United States announced that the ice surge to Minnesota would be ending.

00:01:08.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, President Trump's Borders Are said the administration is ending its crackdown in Minnesota, wrapping up an operation that sparked outrage after the fatal shooting of two U.S. citizens and prompted Democrats in Congress to block funding for the DHS.

00:01:21.000 Tom Homan, the responsible adult in the room, spoke about this yesterday.

00:01:24.000 Here's what it sounded like: the QRF deployments have dropped dramatically because we have less of that occurring, less of the agitator that crossed that line.

00:01:35.000 That is a good thing.

00:01:36.000 That is a win for everybody, not just for the safety of law enforcement officers, it's a win for this community.

00:01:45.000 With that, and success that has been made arresting public safety threats and other priorities since this surge operation began, as well as the unprecedented levels of coordination we have obtained from state officials and local law enforcement, I have proposed, and President Trump has concurred, that this surge operation conclude.

00:02:05.000 Okay, now, on a factual level, was the surge a success?

00:02:09.000 Well, it sort of depends on what you're looking at.

00:02:10.000 If you're looking at the statistics in terms of arrests, then sure, it was a success.

00:02:14.000 If you're looking at maybe some concessions obtained, as Homan says, sure, it was a success.

00:02:19.000 In a PR way, was it a success?

00:02:21.000 The answer, of course, is not really.

00:02:23.000 In a PR way, it was pretty bad for the Trump administration.

00:02:26.000 According to the Associated Press, brand new poll from APNORC, about six in 10 American adults say President Trump has gone too far in sending federal immigration agents into American cities.

00:02:37.000 So the views of Trump's handling of immigration remain steady over the past month.

00:02:41.000 About four in 10 say they approve.

00:02:43.000 But apparently, the Republican Party advantage on immigration has shrunk pretty significantly since October.

00:02:49.000 About three in 10 U.S. adults now trust Republicans to do a better job handling immigration.

00:02:54.000 About a similar share say the same about Democrats.

00:02:57.000 And about three in 10 say both parties do a terrible job.

00:02:59.000 Now, that is a really bad statistic for the Trump administration.

00:03:03.000 This has always been a strength for the Trump administration.

00:03:06.000 Remember, if three in 10 Americans are saying that the party they trust on immigration more is the one that left the border wide open for four years under Joe Biden, that is a referendum on the handling of immigration by, in particular, the Secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Noam, who has been, I will say it, disastrous.

00:03:23.000 Again, I think that the strength of the Trump administration when they came in is they came in with a hard-nosed plan to do things on executive orders.

00:03:29.000 They moved fast.

00:03:31.000 And yes, they broke some things, but it was concerted action.

00:03:34.000 The first three months of the Trump administration was one of the most effective administrations I have ever seen in action.

00:03:39.000 And then it turns out that if you take people who are good on TV and you just put them in cabinet positions, sometimes it works out okay.

00:03:46.000 And sometimes it really, really does not.

00:03:48.000 And the polling data suggests that based on the ICE operations in Minnesota, that has undercut Trump's popularity on an issue where Republicans ought to have extraordinarily high approval.

00:03:59.000 According to this brand new APNORC poll, 62% of Americans say that President Trump has gone too far in sending federal immigration agents into U.S. cities.

00:04:11.000 61% say that the administration has gone too far in using federal law enforcement at public protests in U.S. cities.

00:04:19.000 54% say that the administration has gone too far in restricting legal immigration.

00:04:24.000 And 52% say that the administration has gone too far in deporting immigrants living in the United States illegally.

00:04:33.000 There is no excuse for this other than bad rollout, because this was the issue that, number one, promoted Trump to the presidency in 2016 and then did it again in 2024.

00:04:46.000 And this is where, I will say it again, the Secretary of Homeland Security, Christine Noam, has been very bad at her job. 1.00

00:04:51.000 Just as I said yesterday, that Attorney General Pam Bondi has not been a credit to the administration.

00:04:55.000 Quiet, solid implementation of mainstream policy.

00:05:00.000 That is the way that administrations maintain popularity, not by going on TV in full makeup in order to promote the most radical version of the policy.

00:05:11.000 There is an extraordinary piece in the Wall Street Journal breaking down Christy Noam's tenure over at DHS.

00:05:16.000 Suffice it to say, it has been problematic.

00:05:20.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, Christy Noam has basically used DHS as a platform for her own political gratification. 1.00

00:05:30.000 Given the incoming fire that she was taking politically, apparently, two days after federal agents shot and killed Alex Predi, Noam's top advisor and alleged lover, Corey Lewandowski.

00:05:42.000 And that is important because that has been widely alleged.

00:05:45.000 Apparently, it's not even being very well hidden.

00:05:47.000 Lewandowski, both of them are married, by the way.

00:05:50.000 Corey Lewandowski is married.

00:05:51.000 Christy Noam is married.

00:05:52.000 It has long been rumored in South Dakota politics.

00:05:54.000 It's been long rumored since she became DHS secretary that they live together, essentially.

00:06:01.000 Corey Liandowski is not just her top advisor.

00:06:03.000 He may be her paramour.

00:06:06.000 And I say may very advisedly there.

00:06:09.000 Apparently, Lewandowski messaged Tony Fabrizio, which is one of Trump's pollsters, with a request to cut an ad to help Christy Noam.

00:06:16.000 Fabrizio ignored the entreaty.

00:06:18.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, throughout her tenure as Secretary of Homeland Security, a sprawling agency charged with carrying out Trump's central campaign promise of a mass deportation.

00:06:27.000 Noam has attempted to burnish her personal stardom at every turn.

00:06:30.000 With Lewandowski, Trump's former campaign manager at her side just staged a headline-grabbing immigration crackdown while sidelining rivals and dissenters.

00:06:38.000 She's carried out confrontational operations over the objections of longtime immigration officials who warned that such flashy displays would discredit the department's ultimate mission.

00:06:47.000 She's been in constant fights with Tom Homan, again, the adult in the room.

00:06:51.000 Apparently, within DHS, Noam and Lewandowski frequently berate senior-level staff, give polygraph tests to employees they don't trust, and have fired employees.

00:06:59.000 In one incident, Lewandowski fired a U.S. Coast Guard pilot after Noam's blanket was left behind on a plane, according to people familiar with the incident.

00:07:06.000 This would not surprise anybody who's familiar with the work of Corey Lewandowski historically.

00:07:10.000 By the way, I'm not even sure why Lewandowski has the power to fire people working with Christy Noam.

00:07:15.000 He has sort of a temp position.

00:07:19.000 When you read down in the article, what you find is that days after Predty's shooting, Lewandowski and Noam were spotted sitting together at the Mar-a-Lago wedding of Dan Scavino.

00:07:31.000 A DHS spokeswoman said Noam serves at the pleasure of the president and has successfully clamped down on inefficiencies to save billions of dollars.

00:07:38.000 She said that all the officials are on the same page.

00:07:40.000 But apparently, Noam and Lewandowski's close relationship had already made Trump and his top advisors uncomfortable.

00:07:45.000 Lewandowski had initially wanted to formally serve as Noam's chief of staff.

00:07:49.000 Trump rejected the idea due to reports of a romantic relationship between the two.

00:07:54.000 After tabloid photos of Lewandowski showed him going back and forth between his apartment and Noam's across the street last year, the secretary moved into a government-owned waterfront house on a military base in Washington that is provided to the leader of the U.S. Coast Guard.

00:08:06.000 The Coast Guard falls under Noam's purview at DHS during peacetime.

00:08:11.000 Apparently, the DHS spokeswoman said Noam moved to the house for increased security and pays rent as well.

00:08:16.000 And Lewandowski spends time at the house.

00:08:20.000 Lewandowski and Noam are both married, publicly denied reports that they are sleeping together.

00:08:26.000 But again, let's just say the rumors are extremely strong.

00:08:30.000 The pair have been using a luxury 737 MAX jet with a private cabin and back for their travel around the country.

00:08:36.000 DHS is currently leasing the plane.

00:08:39.000 They want to buy the plane, but the purchase would be double the cost of each of seven other commercial planes the department is also buying at the pair's discretion to carry out deportations.

00:08:50.000 Apparently, behind the scenes, Noam and Lewandowski have been attempting to box out Tom Holman, who again is the responsible person, L State of Bank.

00:08:58.000 You need responsible people in the room working for the president of the United States.

00:09:02.000 That's how success is achieved.

00:09:05.000 More than a week after Pretty's shooting, apparently Noam and Lewandowski berated Todd Lyons, the acting ICE director, for videos that emerged in Minnesota showing federal officers continuing to tangle with protesters.

00:09:16.000 They said the president hated the continued stream of videos and they pinned the blame on Lions.

00:09:21.000 And then they demanded that Lions draw up a new plan for ICE to carry out targeted enforcement, which is the approach Lions wanted, but apparently Noam had rejected.

00:09:32.000 Lewandowski took Noam to functions with Republican Kingmakers starting in 2019, introducing her as a rising star in the party.

00:09:40.000 He suggested her as a possible VP candidate in 2024, and then he pushed her for DHS.

00:09:48.000 Again, the spending inside the department is fascinating.

00:09:55.000 Lewandowski, for one, who is working under a sort of Gen Temp contract because he has taken a position that allows him to maintain pay in the private sector, he has urged officials to move away from continuing long-term contracts with companies toward new ones.

00:10:10.000 Some say allies of Noam and Lewandowski instructed high-level staff to meet with particular companies for services that other contractors have previously carried out.

00:10:19.000 DHS says that Lewandowski is in full compliance with the Office of Government Ethics forms.

00:10:25.000 We will have to find out because, again, all of this is suspicious to say the least.

00:10:28.000 And the bottom line is, does it help Trump?

00:10:30.000 Does it help the administration?

00:10:32.000 Does it help immigration enforcement?

00:10:33.000 I think the answer is no.

00:10:34.000 Now, Republicans doing a terrible job typically leads to Democrats stepping too far.

00:10:40.000 And that is what is happening right now.

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00:12:56.000 So it is, in fact, the right political move.

00:13:00.000 Whether it is in fact the right policy move, it is the right political move for the administration to go back to status quo ante in Minnesota because it takes the bat out of the hands of Democrats.

00:13:09.000 But Democrats, apparently, are not letting the pedal off the metal, even though they already seem to have achieved what they wanted to achieve, which is ICE no longer doing massive raid operations in Minnesota.

00:13:21.000 Even Politico, which is far from a right-wing outlet, is recognizing pretty openly that this undercuts Democrats' messaging that the administration is being overweening in its pursuit of illegal immigrants.

00:13:32.000 Quote, by pulling out of Minneapolis, says Politico, the epicenter of the left's fight to overhaul federal immigration enforcement after federal agents killed two American citizens.

00:13:40.000 Administration officials and allies argue that Democrats will lose political steam as attention gradually fades from the administration's aggressive enforcement actions.

00:13:48.000 By the way, this is one of the rules of politics.

00:13:50.000 You know when you can get things done when people aren't generally talking about it, when it's on the front pages, very difficult to get things done.

00:13:57.000 Nevertheless, Democrats continue to pursue a DHS shutdown.

00:14:01.000 According to Axios, lawmakers are departing Washington as of yesterday without a deal to fund the DHS, all but ensuring a partial government shutdown at the end of Day Friday.

00:14:11.000 This would be the third shutdown of President Trump's second term.

00:14:15.000 Despite two weeks of negotiations, Democrats said on Thursday they were no closer to a deal with Republicans to avert that shutdown.

00:14:23.000 Democrats continue to tout the idea that DHS needs to be defunded or major changes need to happen inside of DHS.

00:14:31.000 They are stepping too far.

00:14:33.000 They saw political blood in the water with the mishandling of people like Chris Steenome and Corey Lewandowski.

00:14:38.000 And now, predictably, they are moving too far in the opposite direction.

00:14:41.000 Chuck Schumer, the Senate minority leader, says that they will cut funding to ICE.

00:14:47.000 The Republican bill on the floor allows ICE to smash indoors without warrants, to wear masks and not be identified, to use children as bait for their parents.

00:14:59.000 No oversight.

00:15:00.000 We are keeping our word.

00:15:02.000 No funding for ICE until it is rained in, until the violence ends.

00:15:09.000 Okay, well, here is the thing.

00:15:10.000 Again, Trump, by putting a professional in charge, is already on the path toward a more professional implementation of policy.

00:15:17.000 And now I think Americans are going to turn and say, okay, well, why don't you just work with the responsible agents to go after criminal illegal immigrants? 0.99

00:15:23.000 That is the policy everyone wants to see implemented.

00:15:27.000 But as always, Democrats can't stop themselves.

00:15:29.000 Alex Padilla, who is the senator from California, is out there on point defending sanctuary cities.

00:15:36.000 I mean, good luck with this proposal.

00:15:40.000 As I was listening to my colleague, he's tried to paint a picture of sanctuary states or sanctuary cities as nothing but lawless.

00:15:53.000 And I get that's maybe a favorite soundbite for right-wing media, but the fact of the matter is it's not true.

00:16:02.000 Sanctuary policies do not mean that there are no laws or that the federal government can no longer enforce federal law in those jurisdictions.

00:16:16.000 What sanctuary policies are is simply an affirmation that immigration enforcement is the job of the federal government and that state and local authorities cannot be co-opted or forced into performing inherently federal responsibilities.

00:16:39.000 Well, I mean, that is not exactly what sanctuary cities and jurisdictions are.

00:16:43.000 What they are instructions for state and local officials not to cooperate with federal law enforcement, meaning that they could voluntarily help out ICE by, for example, calling in jail detainees to ICE for immigration violations, and they won't do that.

00:16:58.000 No one is saying that the feds can force states to do that, but states can voluntarily do it.

00:17:03.000 And of course, when they don't, what do you think is the natural result?

00:17:06.000 The natural result, of course, is to put more ICE agents in the streets.

00:17:09.000 This, by the way, is the Democrats game.

00:17:10.000 What Democrats want is more chaos in the streets because they think that it's a political winner for them.

00:17:16.000 Now, it doesn't have to be a political winner for Democrats.

00:17:18.000 The reason this turned into a political winner, at least in the moment, the reason the Democrats won the battle in the moment in Minnesota and the left won the battle in the moment, again, is because of the bad PR rollout done by top members of the Trump administration, by people like Greg Bovino, by people like Christine Ohm.

00:17:36.000 You just don't see this kind of mess being made in other parts of the administration.

00:17:39.000 In a little while, we'll get to the EPA under Lee Zeldon.

00:17:41.000 Lee Zeldon is a professional.

00:17:42.000 And so the EPA and President Trump can make one of the most signal changes in American regulatory policy of the last five decades.

00:17:50.000 And it won't generate the kind of heat and light that have been put around what happened in Minnesota.

00:17:56.000 Because competence actually matters.

00:17:58.000 Okay, but as I say, Democrats can go too far here.

00:18:01.000 Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, who is a disgrace to his profession, he was testifying in front of Congress yesterday, and he was asked a question by Senator Bernie Moreno of Ohio.

00:18:12.000 And Ellison said, I'm not sure that if you're in the country illegally, you should be deported.

00:18:17.000 If you enter the country illegally or you overstay a visa, should you be deported?

00:18:24.000 My simple answer is, sir, it depends.

00:18:28.000 Okay.

00:18:28.000 So if somebody breaks into your home, should they be arrested for breaking entering or does it depend?

00:18:33.000 It's an entirely different scenario.

00:18:35.000 How's that?

00:18:36.000 Because immigration is essentially civil and breaking into my home is a criminal matter. 0.70

00:18:41.000 Oh, okay, gotcha.

00:18:42.000 So if there's so there's laws that should be enforced, so we shouldn't enforce civil violations?

00:18:47.000 We absolutely should enforce them.

00:18:50.000 But you just said that it's a civil matter, so it's different.

00:18:53.000 So if somebody commits a civil infraction, it shouldn't be enforced.

00:18:58.000 It should be.

00:18:59.000 Okay, so they should be deported.

00:19:01.000 No, they should have due process that is associated with their petition.

00:19:06.000 So for example, the act of entering the country illegally, you think we should say, well, did you really do it or not do it?

00:19:13.000 It's pretty obvious that they did, right?

00:19:15.000 Well, I mean, it would depend on the facts of the situation.

00:19:20.000 Again, it should not depend on the facts of the situation.

00:19:22.000 You can say that every illegal immigrant in the country should be deported, but you have to prioritize because of resource shortages. 1.00

00:19:30.000 You can talk about extenuating circumstances, people who have natural-born American citizen children, for example, but they themselves are illegal immigrants.

00:19:37.000 You can talk about all that.

00:19:38.000 That's not what Keith Ellison is doing.

00:19:40.000 He is setting up a roadblock to actual implementation of law.

00:19:43.000 This is a point that Senator Ron Johnson made to the Minnesota AG.

00:19:47.000 He says that you and people in the Democratic Party facilitated tragedy in Minnesota.

00:19:51.000 This is true.

00:19:52.000 And again, a more competent DHS secretary would have been able to highlight this with more alacrity.

00:19:59.000 I, as a government official, would have said, back off.

00:20:03.000 Let us work with ICE.

00:20:04.000 Let's cooperate with them.

00:20:06.000 Let's see if we can't de-escalate this.

00:20:09.000 But, Attorney General, you did the exact opposite.

00:20:13.000 And two people are dead because you encouraged them to put themselves in harm's way.

00:20:20.000 And now you're exploiting those two martyrs.

00:20:22.000 That was a tragedy.

00:20:24.000 It never should have happened.

00:20:28.000 Now we can investigate, but I can't imagine being a law enforcement official where I know my colleagues have been shot at, their vehicles rammed, that they're trained activists deployed.

00:20:45.000 And by the way, we know at least one of those activists had a semi-automatic pistol with extra clips.

00:20:52.000 So now you're an ICE officer.

00:20:55.000 You're doing enforcement action.

00:20:56.000 You've got a team behind you trying to protect you.

00:20:59.000 You've got all these trained activists behind you.

00:21:02.000 Is it any wonder they're at hair trigger alert?

00:21:07.000 A tragedy was going to happen and you encouraged it.

00:21:13.000 And you ought to feel damn guilty about it.

00:21:15.000 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:21:17.000 Obviously, again, when it comes to these hearings, it is televised moments, but he is obviously correct on the merits here.

00:21:23.000 And again, you're seeing this bleed across the entire Democratic Party.

00:21:26.000 So one Georgia state representative named Marvin Lim appeared in an anti-ICE rally where he appealed specifically to illegal immigrants.

00:21:36.000 Immigrants and families of immigrants, we see you.

00:21:40.000 Whether you are a citizen, whether you have no documentation on an asylee, TPS, any of those, we see you, we hear you, and that's why we are speaking out for you who cannot be here today because we love you and we are fighting for you.

00:21:57.000 Thank you.

00:22:00.000 And Cardi B, a much more popular figure at her concert the other night, suggested that if ICE agents were in the crowd, they should be physically assaulted.

00:22:14.000 If ICE come in here, we're going to joke that.

00:22:16.000 I got some bear mace in the back.

00:22:26.000 They took the muffins.

00:22:28.000 Let's go.

00:22:30.000 She seems like a sane and rational human being.

00:22:33.000 Maybe ICE should deploy some robots to just be near her.

00:22:36.000 If you have not seen the video yet of Cardi B being knocked over by a robot, Robo ICE.

00:22:43.000 Robo ICE is obviously the solution.

00:22:45.000 But this speaks to the radicalism of Democrats.

00:22:47.000 So CNN's Harry Enton points out that Americans may not be in love with all the things that President Trump is doing, but you know what they really hate?

00:22:55.000 The radicalism of Democrats.

00:22:56.000 And this is why it is amazing.

00:22:58.000 It is truly an amazing thing how reactionary American politics is.

00:23:01.000 People believe, for example, that because Joe Biden was a bad president, this means that you can now run up the score on every extraordinary wish list item you have on the reactionary right.

00:23:10.000 And then similarly, if Democrats smell any blood in the water with regard to Minnesota, for example, they can now swing as radically to the left as they could possibly want.

00:23:19.000 And it turns out most Americans are not into any of this.

00:23:22.000 Most Americans just want responsible governance.

00:23:24.000 It's not that difficult.

00:23:25.000 It really isn't.

00:23:26.000 Here's Harry Enton pointing out that whatever you think of the Republicans, Americans think Democrats are way off the reservation.

00:23:32.000 So if the ideology of the Democratic Party is shifting or changing, how are people feeling about it?

00:23:38.000 Okay, so we're talking about the Democratic base, right?

00:23:40.000 But what about all that?

00:23:41.000 What about all Americans, right? 0.93

00:23:43.000 How about all voters?

00:23:44.000 Voters who say the Democrats are now too liberal.

00:23:47.000 Look at this percentage.

00:23:48.000 It was 42% in 96, 48% in 2013.

00:23:51.000 Now, 58% in 2025 of all Democrats, of all voters, say that the Democratic Party is too liberal.

00:23:58.000 The Democrats are moving to the left.

00:24:00.000 The far left is gaining power.

00:24:01.000 And there could be some electoral repercussions because what we see right now is voters, the clear majority, say that they are too liberal.

00:24:10.000 And this is really the story of what Democrats are doing.

00:24:12.000 They continue to swivel ever out to the left.

00:24:14.000 It's truly insane.

00:24:16.000 After Donald Trump shelled Joe Biden, their decision is maybe we should move further to the left than Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

00:24:22.000 That's their move.

00:24:24.000 Totally crazy. 0.99

00:24:25.000 Bernie Sanders, according to Axios, who, again, it will never stop amazing me that Bernie Sanders, a career useless person, a leech on the ass of American society for all of his eight decades, that that human somehow has become the ideological thought leader of an entire major party in the United States. 1.00

00:24:42.000 It is totally psychotic, totally crazy. 0.99

00:24:44.000 The dude has produced zero things of value. 0.81

00:24:47.000 He has the political mentality of a seven-year-old, literally a seven-year-old.

00:24:52.000 You know, there are a lot of bad things in the world.

00:24:54.000 Some bad things happen to people, and those bad things can only be cured.

00:24:58.000 They can only be cured by the government.

00:25:01.000 You know, some people are rich and some people are poor, and that's bad.

00:25:03.000 I wish some people were not rich.

00:25:05.000 That would be good. 0.99

00:25:07.000 Everything he says is along the lines of a fortune cookie idiocy that is only replicated in small children, truly. 0.98

00:25:16.000 And somehow this has gained all sorts of credibility inside the Democratic Party base. 0.95

00:25:20.000 Well, now, according to Axios, Senator Sanders is feeling emboldened by the progressives' shock victory in a New Jersey special House primary last week.

00:25:27.000 He is now sizing up his next targets.

00:25:30.000 He has endorsed over a dozen progressive House and Senate candidates who are aiming to reshape the Democratic Party.

00:25:35.000 Asked in a phone interview where Elsie thinks the lefts can win upside victories, Sanders pointed to a fighting oligarchy rally he is doing on Friday with a person called Nita Alam, who is challenging Representative Valerie Fouchy, is in North Carolina.

00:25:49.000 Brad Lander, who is challenging Representative Dan Goldman, and Lander is a nut job. 0.94

00:25:54.000 He is a nutcase. 0.93

00:25:55.000 He is a full-on Zorin Mantani socialist. 0.96

00:25:57.000 He also has a strong chance to win, says Bernie Sanders.

00:26:00.000 All of this is following the victory of progressive Analilia Mejia in a special primary election last week to succeed now Governor Mikey Sherrill.

00:26:11.000 She finished narrowly ahead of former Representative Tom Malinowski.

00:26:16.000 Majia will have to win in April general election to get seated, and then another primary in June to keep her seat for another two years. 0.96

00:26:22.000 But naturally, the Democrats have decided to coalesce around her because this is the way that it works.

00:26:26.000 Neither party apparently has the stomach to simply say to its most extreme actors, no, you don't get to hang out with us.

00:26:34.000 Sanders told Axios that she ran on a strong progressive agenda and she's going to stand up to oligarchs. 0.60

00:26:40.000 And then he compared her to Zoran Mandani.

00:26:45.000 Sanders has also endorsed House candidates in Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Pennsylvania, California, Utah, and Montana.

00:26:51.000 And he is backing radical Senate candidates Abdul El-Syed in Michigan, Graham Plattner in Maine.

00:26:56.000 That's the dude who had the SS logo carved into his chest and then had to pretend that's not what it was.

00:27:02.000 And Peggy Flanagan in Minnesota, as well as Maine gubernatorial candidate Troy Jackson.

00:27:07.000 The Democratic Party is swiveling out to the Bernie Sanders left.

00:27:12.000 And let us never forget Bernie Sanders' ideas have been tried and they fail everywhere they've ever been tried. 1.00

00:27:17.000 They are garbage ideas, true trash ideas. 0.99

00:27:19.000 His latest trash idea, by the way, is that he wants a moratorium on data center construction. 0.99

00:27:24.000 Okay, cool. 0.93

00:27:24.000 Let's just destroy economic growth in the country. 0.93

00:27:27.000 Sounds great.

00:27:28.000 Sounds great.

00:27:30.000 His chosen protégés, by the way, have already destroyed tens of thousands of jobs across the country.

00:27:35.000 You'll recall that AOC, bartender, turned congresswoman, turned media sensation because of her fresh-facedness. 1.00

00:27:41.000 You'll remember that when Amazon was thinking of relocating to her district, she killed that, thus thrusting tens of thousands of jobs out of her own district, a major win for her constituents, clearly. 1.00

00:27:53.000 Well, now Sanders wants to destroy data center construction.

00:27:58.000 On MS Now, he said, we have not a clue.

00:28:00.000 We are totally unprepared for what is coming.

00:28:01.000 We've got to slow this thing down.

00:28:05.000 What is he talking about?

00:28:06.000 He's talking about we need to slow down AI because obviously redistributing misery is better than redistributing prosperity.

00:28:14.000 Sanders says that AI is bad because it alienates workers from their labor.

00:28:21.000 The real thing, of course, is that businesses might do well and the stock market might do well.

00:28:26.000 And that is the thing that he wants to oppose.

00:28:28.000 So if Democrats want to side with the let's destroy the economy wing of the party, good luck to you.

00:28:32.000 Here is the reality.

00:28:33.000 President Trump's economy is working and it is working really well right now.

00:28:37.000 Brand new CPI report out this morning.

00:28:39.000 Consumer prices rose 2.4% in January from one year earlier.

00:28:43.000 That is cooler than the 2.7% recorded in December.

00:28:46.000 That is lower than expected inflation.

00:28:48.000 Again, it's higher than 2%, but it is way down from the 9%, 10% we were seeing on an annualized basis, some quarters from the Biden administration.

00:28:56.000 Core prices rose 2.5% in January from a year earlier.

00:29:01.000 The latest annual number had some help since a high inflation reading from January 2025, according to the journal, has now dropped out of the past 12 months of data.

00:29:08.000 Month over month from December, consumer prices in January rose a seasonally adjusted 0.2%.

00:29:14.000 Core prices rose at 0.3%, but wages are now outpacing inflation.

00:29:19.000 Wage increases are outpacing inflation under the Trump economy.

00:29:23.000 That is a reality.

00:29:24.000 And economic growth is the thing that President Trump is doing exactly right.

00:29:28.000 So as I mentioned before, competence is a very useful thing.

00:29:31.000 President Trump's work with the EPA is competent.

00:29:34.000 It is low-key and it is competent.

00:29:36.000 And it is not going to upset the apple cart or be unpopular.

00:29:41.000 So according to the Washington Post, nearly 17 years after the EPA declared that carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases threaten the public health and welfare, the agency on Thursday rescinded the landmark legal opinion underpinning a wave of federal policies aimed at climate change.

00:29:56.000 Under Barack Obama, the agency issued a so-called endangerment finding suggesting that greenhouse gases could be regulated without congressional legislation.

00:30:04.000 Like the Clean Air Act, which was passed in the 1970s, somehow covered greenhouse gases, which, of course, is ridiculous.

00:30:12.000 And the question here isn't whether greenhouse gases should be legislated, it is whether you should unilaterally be able to regulate those from the executive branch of the government.

00:30:21.000 If Congress wants to pass a big bill putting caps on greenhouse gases, they have the power to do that, presumably.

00:30:29.000 But that's not what happened.

00:30:31.000 Basically, the Obama administration created a fake legal finding that the Clean Air Act, which never contemplated carbon dioxide being actually covered by the Clean Air Act, they said that somehow the Clean Air Act covered that.

00:30:44.000 It was evolving in its meaning or something.

00:30:46.000 And therefore, the EPA could simply regulate every company in America under its auspices.

00:30:52.000 That, of course, was false.

00:30:55.000 At an event at the White House on Thursday afternoon, President Trump suggested that this was the biggest deregulatory action in American history.

00:31:03.000 Here he was announcing it yesterday.

00:31:07.000 Under the process just completed by the EPA, we are officially terminating the so-called endangerment finding, a disastrous Obama-era policy that severely damaged the American auto industry and massively drove up prices for American consumers.

00:31:25.000 Prices went up incredibly for a worse product.

00:31:30.000 This action will eliminate over $1.3 trillion of regulatory costs and help bring car prices tumbling down dramatically.

00:31:42.000 And then he added, he hopes that we build no more windmills in the United States because, in his opinion, they are useless.

00:31:47.000 He is fact-checked mostly right.

00:31:51.000 Basically, he stopped all windmills in this country.

00:31:54.000 It's the most expensive energy you can get.

00:31:56.000 They're all made in China, a little bit in Germany, but mostly in China.

00:32:00.000 And we're putting them all over our fields and ruining the fields and killing the birds and all of this.

00:32:05.000 And the environmentalists say they like them, but they really are a tremendous eyesore.

00:32:09.000 They've ruined.

00:32:11.000 Europe has gone.

00:32:12.000 As you know, it's gone to Europe isn't even recognizable anymore between immigration and because of environmental things like the windmills, which are taking over.

00:32:22.000 The people hate them.

00:32:24.000 The energy is by far the most expensive.

00:32:26.000 And we're fighting very hard to make sure that they don't get built.

00:32:30.000 I hope we don't have one built during my administration.

00:32:35.000 Now, of course, the New York Times is fighting mad about all of this.

00:32:38.000 A piece of reporting that really is just opinion masquerading is reporting by Lisa Friedman says, led by a president who refers to climate change as a hoax, the administration is essentially saying that the vast majority of scientists around the world are wrong and that a hotter planet is not the menace that decades of research shows it to be.

00:32:54.000 It's a rejection of fact that has been accepted for decades by presidents of both parties, including Richard Nixon, whose top advisor warned of the dangers of climate change and the first president George Bush, who signs an international climate treaty.

00:33:05.000 And it is a knockout punch in the years-long fight by a small group of conservative activists, as well as oil, gas, and coal interests to stop the country from transitioning away from fossil fuels and toward solar, wind, and other non-polluting energy.

00:33:16.000 Believe it or not, that is not an opinion piece.

00:33:18.000 That isn't a reported piece from the New York Times. 0.99

00:33:20.000 Total trash. 0.70

00:33:22.000 You can hold that opinion for sure, but that is not the reason. 0.94

00:33:26.000 You could totally hold that climate change is happening and even is anthropogenic and still believe that the EPA should not have the unilateral ability to regulate carbon emissions under the Clean Air Act, that that is a legal abomination, and that the administration is right to stop that.

00:33:40.000 You can also hold that there are mitigation measures and adaptation measures that are significantly better than simply restricting usage of carbon when it comes to, for example, car emissions.

00:33:53.000 And also that cars have gotten significantly more effective at using fossil fuels, which is true.

00:34:00.000 Your miles per gallon have gone way, way, way up since they were back in the 1970s, for example.

00:34:07.000 But of course, the New York Times is a gigantic opinion page masquerading as a reporting outlet.

00:34:15.000 This is why, whenever people say, you know, the Trump administration, they violate legality all the time.

00:34:19.000 The Trump administration, when they violate things legally, they usually do so in the most blatant fashion.

00:34:24.000 It's clear to everybody.

00:34:25.000 The thing Democrats have done for decades is simply twisted and turned and violated the law by gutting the law and wearing it around.

00:34:34.000 That's what happened again with the Clean Air Act.

00:34:36.000 If you want Congress to pass this thing, if you want Congress to regulate greenhouse gases, Democrats, why don't you get elected to a majority in the House, Senate, and presidency, and then you can pass some sort of legislation?

00:34:46.000 But the very notion that a regulatory agency should have this level of control over the economy based on something that no law ever gave them authority to do is totally insane.

00:34:56.000 We should also mention here that Europe has made its entire economy subservient to the whims of environmental activists, which is why they've been one reason they've been under a state of heavy stagnation for legitimately decades at this point, and they will never let go.

00:35:09.000 Ursula von der Leyen, the head of the EU, here she was claiming that actually the EU's carbon market, which regulates the building of power plants and prevents the dissemination of energy and has made the EU essentially irrelevant in the pursuit of AI, for example, it has cut them out of the next generation of economic growth.

00:35:28.000 Here she was saying it's actually wonderful.

00:35:29.000 It's actually great.

00:35:31.000 The emission trading system has clear benefits.

00:35:35.000 It's always important that we look at the effects.

00:35:40.000 It is a market-based system.

00:35:43.000 It is technology completely neutral.

00:35:45.000 It says basically, if you want to pollute, you pay.

00:35:49.000 If you don't want to pay, innovate.

00:35:52.000 And this is what happened.

00:35:54.000 It has been introduced in 2005.

00:35:58.000 And since then, the emissions have gone down by 39%.

00:36:04.000 The sectors covered by ETS-1 have grown by 71%.

00:36:09.000 So decarbonization and growth can go hand in hand.

00:36:13.000 And there were revenues of 260 billion euros generated.

00:36:19.000 Partially for the European level, it's a smaller part, mostly 78% for the member states themselves.

00:36:30.000 If the EU wishes to make itself subservient to the idiocies of the green movement, that's their problem. 0.61

00:36:36.000 But President Trump isn't doing that.

00:36:38.000 And if the Democratic Party decides to mirror all of that, in the long term, that is not going to go well for them.

00:36:44.000 Again, Democrats are unable to divide off from their most radical ideas, and it is a disaster area for them.

00:36:50.000 That is true on illegal immigration.

00:36:51.000 It is true on economics.

00:36:52.000 And it is true, obviously, on social issues.

00:36:55.000 Every Democratic major candidate refuses to divide off from the craziest idea of the last 50 years, and maybe of all time, that boys are girls or can become girls.

00:37:05.000 And the damage has been catastrophic.

00:37:07.000 You've seen it in everything from mass shootings to the actual damage that young people are doing to their own bodies.

00:37:12.000 There's a fascinating and horrifying piece in today's Wall Street Journal from a Soren Aldaco called What I Suffered Being Transgender.

00:37:19.000 Quote, when I was 11, I began identifying as transgender.

00:37:22.000 I had gone down a rabbit hole of websites and niche online forums.

00:37:25.000 There, I met a friend, an artist who was 14, whom I admired and looked up to.

00:37:29.000 We both felt different, out of place in society.

00:37:31.000 Born 10 years earlier, we would have been called tomboys.

00:37:33.000 Instead, we writhed under the pressure of the female role. 1.00

00:37:36.000 The internet told us the logical conclusion of that struggle was to identify as boys.

00:37:40.000 This person writes, I come from a broken home.

00:37:42.000 While my mother and stepfather always loved me, my stepfather became severely disabled when I was three, leaving me feeling as though I had to raise myself.

00:37:49.000 I eventually reached out to my biological father around a decade later.

00:37:52.000 When he and my stepmother saw my distress and were told by a psychiatrist that this distress was related to my transgender identity, they began to consider the benefits of affirming me in my transition.

00:38:01.000 Too young to vote or drink, I became immersed in the idea that hormones and surgeries would fix me.

00:38:05.000 At the transgender support group I attended, most of the focus was on who was starting hormones and how it was going for them.

00:38:10.000 I was envious.

00:38:11.000 I wanted the same feelings of affirmation they had.

00:38:13.000 Most of them were on hormones prescribed by a nurse practitioner who attended the group.

00:38:17.000 When I was 17, says this person, I went with my stepmother to see that nurse practitioner who prescribed testosterone and estrogen blockers 30 minutes later.

00:38:25.000 These hormones were one of the many medical interventions I pursued in my teens.

00:38:28.000 At 19, I had top surgery, a euphemism for elective double mastectomy.

00:38:32.000 My surgeon made sure to facilitate my physical transition as much as possible, spoon feeding me talking points for insurance coverage.

00:38:38.000 I donned rainbow hair, medical knee braces, and prescription compression socks to my surgery date.

00:38:42.000 I was on more than 10 different medications when I went under the knife.

00:38:45.000 After the surgery, I suffered major complications.

00:38:48.000 I had severe bruising all down my rib cage, along my sides and on my chest.

00:38:51.000 My surgeons repeatedly dismissed me when I came to them with these problems.

00:38:54.000 Eventually, I sought care at a local emergency room where hospital personnel told me only breast oncology would see me.

00:39:00.000 These doctors were kind, used to working with vulnerable women.

00:39:03.000 The realization I had been gaslit sunk in as I watched them cut my scars back open, empty out nearly three cups of blood, and sew in Penrose drains.

00:39:11.000 I made the decision to face who I really was without the medicine, without the hormones or additional surgery six months after this experience.

00:39:17.000 While taking classes at the University of Texas at Austin, I began to make sense of my transgender identity through the lens of human development.

00:39:25.000 Piecing together my turbulent family life in adolescent internet habits, among other things, it dawned on me.

00:39:29.000 I had never been born in the wrong body.

00:39:31.000 There was no way to be born in the wrong body at all.

00:39:34.000 And this person sued the medical providers.

00:39:37.000 As a seventh generation Texas, going before the Supreme Court of Texas was never something I saw myself doing, says this person, let alone doing because I listened to my doctors.

00:39:44.000 Yet, here I am.

00:39:47.000 Now, again, this person doesn't exist, according to the Democrats, people who detransition. 1.00

00:39:50.000 They've been basically erased.

00:39:52.000 Not only that, we've been informed by the Democratic Party that to even discuss such issues demonstrates hatred of trans people, transphobia.

00:40:01.000 If Democrats continue to pursue this insanity, they will reap the electoral worldwide.

00:40:05.000 Meanwhile, abroad, Democrats continue to push their own bizarre world version of how politics ought to work.

00:40:13.000 According to the Washington Post, Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Representative Alexander Ocasio-Cortez are going to the Munich Security Conference.

00:40:23.000 Rubio is widely seen as the good cop in the Trump administration's ever-widening conflict with Europe.

00:40:28.000 Ocasio-Cortez is expected to decry the influence of billionaires and corporate interests on international policies she views as hostile to the working class.

00:40:38.000 She's expected, of course, to rip into Israel. 0.99

00:40:40.000 So her perspective is going to be that America's role in the world should be joining left-wing agitators all around the world to appeal to Hamasniks and their allies. 0.89

00:40:51.000 We'll see how that works out for, again, Democrats.

00:40:54.000 If they decide to go radical and if their foreign policy is side with the worst people on planet Earth, then we will see how that works for them.

00:41:00.000 Hamas is not exactly a potential ally.

00:41:05.000 Meanwhile, if Republicans continue to pursue a realist interventionism, then that will be the style of politics that does work.

00:41:13.000 This is what I say.

00:41:14.000 When Democrats sense blood in the water, they always make the mistake of going all the way all the time.

00:41:18.000 And Democrats are also pursuing a bizarre world version of reality that's being rejected across Europe itself.

00:41:25.000 As the New York Times now reports, Switzerland is about to hold a referendum in June on whether to cap its population at 10 million until 2050 by limiting immigration.

00:41:35.000 Supporters of the initiative say measures should include making it harder for foreigners to gain permanent residency once the population passes 9.5 million and revising the country's agreement with the EU that allows for free movement between Switzerland and the rest of the continent.

00:41:47.000 Switzerland is not part of the EU.

00:41:50.000 Both the government and parliament voted to oppose the initiative, but the referendum was triggered automatically because over 100,000 citizens signed a petition in support of the vote.

00:41:58.000 The petition was promoted by the Swiss People's Party, a right-wing party that currently holds roughly a third of seats in the Swiss parliament.

00:42:07.000 Amazing, amazing that this is happening all across Europe, but predicted by the writer Mark Stein many years ago, that eventually Europe would wake up and have to face reality.

00:42:18.000 I think that that is a reality that many in the left in the United States have refused to acknowledge.

00:42:25.000 The migration patterns that the West has undertaken over the course of the last 60 years have not exactly been a gigantic boon culturally.

00:42:35.000 And the left wanting to continue to promote that is going to backfire.

00:42:40.000 All right, the other big story, of course, in the United States continues to unfold.

00:42:44.000 That is the kidnapping of Nancy Guthrie.

00:42:46.000 We are now almost two weeks into the kidnapping.

00:42:51.000 Harvey Levin over at TMZ apparently received a new email from a tipster suggesting a bleak picture for Nancy Guthrie, the 84-year-old woman who's the mother of Savannah Guthrie and was kidnapped nearly two weeks ago.

00:43:05.000 Again, this is the same person who sent us something yesterday.

00:43:09.000 And this one, well, it is more ominous, and we can talk about that in a minute.

00:43:15.000 But this person says, you got to take me seriously.

00:43:18.000 And he's saying the reason he wants this Bitcoin is because he is going to have to go underground because he says he fears retaliation.

00:43:28.000 He knows who the kidnapper is.

00:43:31.000 And he's going to be kind of tarred and feathered, as he puts it, a national rat.

00:43:38.000 But he also mentions the delivery man.

00:43:40.000 He said, I also don't want, you know, I could end up with, you know, being implicated the way this delivery man was.

00:43:47.000 And he was, you know, detained but released.

00:43:49.000 And he doesn't want that either.

00:43:50.000 So he said basically he needs this Bitcoin so he can just, you know, just disappear for a while and not work. 0.78

00:43:59.000 Okay, that's ridiculous. 0.92

00:44:00.000 That, of course, is a ridiculous excuse. 0.92

00:44:02.000 If you know about somebody who was kidnapped and your excuse is, I need Bitcoin to take care of me, just in case people get mad at me for having show of hands in America. 0.94

00:44:12.000 How many people believe that a person who tells the cops where Nancy Guthrie is will be seen as a rat?

00:44:19.000 Show of hands. 0.97

00:44:21.000 That is ridiculous contention.

00:44:22.000 The FBI, however, seems bewildered.

00:44:25.000 The FBI's Phoenix office posted on X yesterday, quote, today the FBI is increasing its reward up to $100,000 for information leading to the location of Nancy Guthrie and or the arrest and conviction of anyone involved in her disappearance.

00:44:38.000 The description of the attacker, the kidnapper, is a male approximately 5'9 to 5'10 with an average build.

00:44:46.000 Well, I mean, good luck with that description.

00:44:49.000 You just described half of America.

00:44:52.000 He was also wearing a black 25-liter Ozark trail hiker pack backpack in the doorbell video, according to authorities.

00:44:59.000 The FBI has collected over 13,000 tips from the public related to the case.

00:45:02.000 It just shows how much the FBI has to track down in every case that they have to handle.

00:45:08.000 So again, the FBI is now grasping at straws.

00:45:11.000 Apparently, according to the New York Post, investigators erected a white tent over the entryway of Nancy Guthrie's house yesterday, and they removed the remaining doorbell camera equipment from her door.

00:45:25.000 It's unclear what else they recovered.

00:45:28.000 In a statement, authorities confirmed they'd recovered several potentially key pieces of evidence, including a pair of black gloves, one of which the post saw the feds recover from the side of a nearby road on Wednesday.

00:45:38.000 Again, unclear whether those gloves have been linked to the attacker.

00:45:41.000 Our Dailyware investigative reporter Lyndon Blake joins us on the line right now.

00:45:44.000 Episode nine comes out today in her series, Finding Nancy Guthrie.

00:45:48.000 Lyndon, thanks so much for the time.

00:45:50.000 Of course, Ben, thanks for having me.

00:45:53.000 So we are now nearly two weeks into the saga.

00:45:56.000 It feels as though very little progress has been made.

00:45:59.000 We're kind of feeling drips and drops of information that have been coming out.

00:46:02.000 You know, a pair of black gloves that were apparently found.

00:46:04.000 They're moving the nest video camera from Nancy Guthrie's door.

00:46:09.000 Harry Lovin referenced somebody who says he knows where she is, but that person won't reveal it unless they're given Bitcoin.

00:46:15.000 Where are we in all this?

00:46:17.000 Are we closing in on anybody?

00:46:18.000 Or is this basically at this point a search for a body?

00:46:21.000 I mean, the longer this lasts, the closer, the more likely it is, it seems to me that she has passed away.

00:46:27.000 I mean, I think you can tell by the way the searches are kind of doing like the grid search and stuff and the places that they're searching.

00:46:34.000 I mean, there's that possibility that they're looking for a body.

00:46:37.000 I mean, it is day 13 since she's been missing.

00:46:41.000 But I must say when the video came out, the footage from Nancy Sorbal camera, you know, everything kind of went up a notch and you obviously get more leads, the 4,000 tips and stuff.

00:46:53.000 But Ben, I must say, knowing about what's going on between Pima County Sheriff and FBI and just the tension that's happening on the ground.

00:47:04.000 So this friction right now between Pima County Sheriff's Department and the FBI is bringing up an investigation that the FBI did back in 2016 with the Pima County Sheriff's Department.

00:47:13.000 At that time, Chris Nanos was the appointed sheriff, and they're being investigated for misuse of funds.

00:47:20.000 And Nanos is never indicted because of this, but the second in command, the second in command chief deputy was.

00:47:26.000 And so a lot of people are thinking that this current tension, this current just not willingness to work together goes back to Nanos and his feelings toward the FBI from a situation that happened a decade ago.

00:47:38.000 It makes you think that they're not close to zoning in on this thing because they're dealing with their own drama.

00:47:45.000 I mean, the latest report is Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos sent a glove, a glove off to a lab in Florida and said the FBI lab in Virginia.

00:47:57.000 And so that evidence could have to potentially be retested.

00:48:01.000 A federal source told us that they weren't really able to take hold of this case until a few days ago.

00:48:08.000 And I think that's where you started to see, you know, yesterday with this white tent going up.

00:48:13.000 And you're like, why wasn't that done days ago?

00:48:16.000 And we've had Amazon packages and pizza all being delivered to Nancy's front door since blood has been just on her front steps and she's been missing. 0.98

00:48:27.000 And but that's because the FBI was met with such pushback from local authorities.

00:48:34.000 And you can go down the rabbit hole and the FBI and Nanos have a pass from 10 years ago.

00:48:41.000 But it just has to be frustrating for the Guthrie family, especially seeing all these reports.

00:48:46.000 And you're like, can we just let the FBI help?

00:48:50.000 You have Trump saying full support.

00:48:53.000 We're sending in everything you need.

00:48:55.000 Let them help.

00:48:56.000 Instead of being prideful and being like, no, like we know this territory.

00:49:01.000 Yes, Pima County knows the local territory.

00:49:04.000 They have their strength too, but let the FBI use their technology.

00:49:08.000 But again, I mean, it just seems like with all this drama happening, no, it doesn't make me feel like there's someone that's going to be captured today.

00:49:16.000 But of course, you hope that.

00:49:17.000 And I've spoken to FBI agents and they all agree that doorbell camera footage greatly, just a plethora of things you can take from there.

00:49:26.000 We know what the backpack is.

00:49:28.000 Ozark Trail hiking backpack from Walmart.

00:49:30.000 They've recovered gloves on the side of the road.

00:49:33.000 Allegedly, there's been gloves recovered inside the house that's now in evidence.

00:49:37.000 So it's a good jump start, but it just makes you wonder the first week, not much was being done.

00:49:46.000 I mean, you mentioned the conflict between the sheriff's office and the FBI.

00:49:50.000 And this is bewildering to everybody who's watching this from the outside because, I mean, you have an unfolding kidnapping drama.

00:49:56.000 And meanwhile, you have infighting between these two branches, government, one local, one federal.

00:50:00.000 You mentioned that there had been some conflict between Nanyos, the sheriff, and the FBI 10 years ago.

00:50:05.000 Can you explicate, like, what is the conflict?

00:50:07.000 What's the holdup here?

00:50:08.000 Because as you say, it should be all hands on deck at this point.

00:50:11.000 He was, I'm pretty sure there was some type of investigation into how he ran things and where money was going or funds.

00:50:20.000 And this is, and I'm going off memory really quick, just 2016, we'll say allegedly around the 2016 mark.

00:50:26.000 He was never charged with anything.

00:50:28.000 Nothing ever came of it.

00:50:30.000 But that's where people are thinking that this current tension.

00:50:34.000 Now, of course, Sheriff Nanos has denied everything.

00:50:38.000 Like, no, we're working great with the FBI.

00:50:40.000 I mean, in one of the press conferences, he even was like, we would, we never turned down federal help.

00:50:45.000 We always welcome them in.

00:50:46.000 And, you know, it just made it seem like they were the best of friends.

00:50:50.000 And, but that's not the case when you have investigators on the ground walking around deputies and FBI and they're asking, we don't really know who's in charge.

00:51:00.000 That's not a good sign.

00:51:02.000 You don't want to be thinking about who's in charge when you're looking for a person, potentially looking for a body, and for sure, I mean, 100% trying to find out who did this.

00:51:15.000 Well, that's Lyndon Blake, Daily Wire Investigative Reporter.

00:51:17.000 Go check out episode nine of Finding Nancy Guthrie, available only at Daily Wire Plus.

00:51:22.000 Lyndon, thanks so much for the time.

00:51:23.000 I appreciate the updates as always.

00:51:25.000 Of course, Ben.

00:51:26.000 Thanks.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - February 13, 2026

It’s BERNIE’s Party, You Can Cry If You Want To

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