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00:01:34.000 All right, so, the latest update from Covington High School.

00:01:37.000 Now, yesterday, on our radio show, we talked to several of the Covington High School students, and I've been speaking to them ever since, and they've been giving me updates.

00:01:44.000 The latest update is that they had to cancel classes over at Covington High School because of death threats.

00:01:50.000 Because of bomb threats.

00:01:51.000 No, I am not kidding.

00:01:52.000 They've now had to cancel school today, and they had to cancel their basketball game, which was scheduled for the next couple days, because of all the violent threats that are being made over a completely falsified video that the media pushed forward.

00:02:03.000 So the media over the weekend pushed forward this video, as you'll recall from yesterday's show.

00:02:08.000 They pushed forward a video suggesting that Covington High School students surrounded an elderly Native American Vietnam veteran and then began berating him, yelling at him, obstructing him, and all the rest.

00:02:17.000 It turns out that was all a lie.

00:02:18.000 It was not true. 0.87

00:02:19.000 The further video shows that what happened is that there were a bunch of black Hebrew Israelites, cult members, who were yelling racial, Sexual orientation slurs at the students.

00:02:27.000 The students did not respond except by chanting their school chants, at which point Nathan Phillips, this elderly Native American gentleman, he decided to saunter into the middle of the high school students with some of his buddies, pounding a drum and getting in the faces of some of the students.

00:02:41.000 The students did not react to that.

00:02:43.000 And for this, the students were castigated.

00:02:44.000 They are now receiving death threats.

00:02:46.000 They are receiving bomb threats.

00:02:47.000 They have been doxxed.

00:02:48.000 I mean, I've spoken to a bunch of the students at this point.

00:02:52.000 These are, from my impression, good, solid kids.

00:02:55.000 I see no evidence that they are racist.

00:02:56.000 I see no evidence that they did anything egregious or wrong.

00:02:59.000 And you're seeing commentary from folks on the left, suggesting that one kid in particular, Nick Sandman, who's the one who you see in the video standing face to face with a Native American guy, that he was doing something wrong by smiling.

00:03:11.000 So now a white guy smiling is racist.

00:03:14.000 That's how far we have come.

00:03:15.000 So on Martin Luther King Day yesterday, people were talking about how a white kid smiling was racist because he happened to be wearing a MAGA hat.

00:03:23.000 You think maybe we have gone too far in this country in terms of polarizing people by way of race?

00:03:29.000 It's pretty astonishing.

00:03:29.000 Well, President Trump did the right thing yesterday.

00:03:31.000 He tweeted out about Covington Catholic.

00:03:33.000 He was watching Tucker Carlson's show.

00:03:35.000 Tucker did a great job of covering this issue last night on Fox News.

00:03:39.000 And Trump tweeted out, That's great.

00:03:41.000 I mean, I had recommended to the White House that President Trump actually tweet at Nick Sandman, nice hat, Nick.

00:03:44.000 Want to come to the White House?

00:03:45.000 Smeared by media.

00:03:46.000 Not good, but making big comeback.

00:03:47.000 New footage shows that media was wrong about teens encounter with Native American.

00:03:51.000 At Tucker Carlson.

00:03:52.000 That's great.

00:03:52.000 I mean, I had recommended to the White House that President Trump actually tweet at Nick Sandman.

00:03:58.000 Nice hat, Nick.

00:03:59.000 Want to come to the White House?

00:04:00.000 Remember Barack Obama did that with Clock Boy?

00:04:02.000 Remember there was that Muslim kid in Texas who, in my opinion, falsely claims that he had been expelled for building a clock when, in fact, he brought in a device that looked very much like a bomb. 0.93

00:04:13.000 And he was briefly investigated and suspended briefly.

00:04:17.000 And then Barack Obama suggested it was racism and Islamophobia and then invited him to the White House.

00:04:22.000 It seems to me that if somebody's been maligned here, it's Nick Sandman, who's been deeply maligned by all of this. 0.66

00:04:27.000 It is really, really gross. 0.61

00:04:28.000 And the media!

00:04:29.000 Haven't stopped completely.

00:04:30.000 It's amazing.

00:04:31.000 Now you're suddenly starting to see the media think twice about what they've done here and all the rest.

00:04:36.000 And listen, I'm not saying that in the aftermath of the immediate tape that things were super clear because they weren't.

00:04:43.000 On Saturday night, I came back on, right?

00:04:44.000 I was lucky.

00:04:45.000 On Friday night, I was off because it'd been a long day and it was Sabbath, so I didn't see any of this until Saturday night.

00:04:50.000 On Saturday night, I got online on Twitter and I started retweeting various different opinions on the issue.

00:04:56.000 Because I had not made up my mind yet.

00:04:58.000 Then I saw the tape and I said, this is absurd.

00:05:00.000 What the hell is going on here?

00:05:02.000 And that's where my opinion landed on Saturday night, Sunday morning, Monday. 0.94

00:05:06.000 The media continued to press forward the case that these kids are racist.

00:05:10.000 So how are they going to press forward the case that these kids are racist?

00:05:12.000 Well, they're going to bring on people who weren't even at the event to talk about how these kids were racist.

00:05:17.000 They brought on a tribal rights attorney.

00:05:20.000 MSNBC brought in a tribal rights attorney who admits in the interview she was not present when any of this happened, but she saw something racist that happened.

00:05:28.000 Why is her opinion any better than yours?

00:05:30.000 Or mine?

00:05:31.000 Or anyone else who watched the tape?

00:05:32.000 It isn't, but MSNBC pushed it anyway.

00:05:36.000 Maybe a hundred students who were getting louder and louder and louder all wearing Make America Great Again hats.

00:05:42.000 You had walked away prior to that point happening.

00:05:45.000 I personally kind of felt unsafe.

00:05:46.000 You know, I could feel the energy in the air change.

00:05:49.000 To surround an indigenous elder and chant Build the Wall kind of exposes that it really has nothing to do with border security.

00:05:56.000 It seems like it's an issue of race and white supremacy.

00:05:58.000 There is no evidence.

00:06:00.000 And I witnessed something that was very aggressive and something that was very frightening.

00:06:04.000 Okay, she witnessed something very aggressive and very frightening.

00:06:07.000 Are you kidding me?

00:06:08.000 Like, she says that she witnessed all of this stuff, but it didn't happen.

00:06:12.000 It didn't happen, right?

00:06:13.000 So people were bringing out this statement about what she had to say as though she had any sort of real insight in there.

00:06:22.000 She says she was there, so I correct myself.

00:06:23.000 She says she was there, but her account is wrong.

00:06:25.000 There's just tape that proves that it was wrong.

00:06:27.000 So what are we going to believe?

00:06:29.000 Our own lying eyes, this lady. 0.82

00:06:31.000 The media continued to push this forward until it became un-pushable anymore, at which point some in the media swiveled and decided to clock other members of Covington High School for more non-racist stuff.

00:06:41.000 So the worst egregious offenders today are the folks over at the New York Daily News.

00:06:46.000 The folks over at the New York Daily News.

00:06:47.000 So, over at the New York Daily News, this was the headline yesterday, and still today they've not taken this down.

00:06:52.000 I mean, this is libelous material.

00:06:55.000 Really, like, suable.

00:06:56.000 This is what their headline says.

00:06:57.000 See it.

00:06:58.000 Covington Catholic High students in blackface at past basketball game.

00:07:03.000 And they show a picture of these kids who are yelling at an opposing player who's a black kid.

00:07:09.000 And a couple of the kids are completely covered in black body paint.

00:07:12.000 And here is what the New York Daily News reports.

00:07:15.000 This won't help Kentucky student Nick Sandman's case.

00:07:18.000 A photo said to be featuring Covington Catholic High School students clad in blackface during a 2015 basketball game made the rounds on Twitter Monday morning amid last week's Indigenous Peoples March controversy.

00:07:29.000 Okay, the photo depicts several white students, some in blackface, shouting at an opposing black player.

00:07:33.000 While the photo's origins couldn't be verified, the official Covington Catholic High School YouTube account published a video last January, boasting its basketball school spirit.

00:07:40.000 And several clips, including one from 2012, showcase attendees chanting in blackface, a mockery of the opposing players.

00:07:46.000 The school took down the video later on Monday.

00:07:49.000 So, what's the story here?

00:07:51.000 Was this really a racist incident?

00:07:52.000 Okay, so first of all, number one, they are now citing incidents that are not this incident about kids who are not this kid from a time that is not this time.

00:07:59.000 Number two, were these kids even in blackface mocking the black player?

00:08:03.000 No!

00:08:04.000 This was a blackout game.

00:08:06.000 It's a blackout game.

00:08:06.000 For people who don't know anything about high school sports, very often, in high school sports, they will have games that are whiteout games, or blackout games, or blueout games, where both teams wear a color of the uniform, right?

00:08:18.000 One will wear white, one will wear black, and then they'll reverse, or they'll both wear blue, but it'll be white on blue versus blue on white, and then the students will dress up in the color for that game.

00:08:26.000 So in a blueout game, then everybody will wear blue, right?

00:08:29.000 And people will paint themselves blue.

00:08:31.000 This was a blackout game.

00:08:32.000 So some of the kids painted themselves black. 0.65

00:08:34.000 Were they mocking black people? 0.94

00:08:36.000 No, of course they weren't mocking black people. 0.87

00:08:38.000 There's no evidence that they were mocking black people.

00:08:40.000 The New York Daily News ran with it anyway, because now they have to demonstrate that they may have been wrong about this case, but they weren't wrong in general.

00:08:48.000 They are applying the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez view of politics.

00:08:51.000 It's not important to be factually correct.

00:08:53.000 It's just important to be morally correct. 0.99

00:08:56.000 The New York Daily News, which is just a piece of garbage newspaper. 0.89

00:08:59.000 They report Sandman, the Covington Junior donning a MAGA cap, tried to dispel reports that he was mocking Nathan Phillips and other Native Americans at the end of the Indigenous Peoples March as they performed the American Indian Movement song at the Lincoln Memorial. 0.91

00:09:10.000 Sandman said in a statement, I never interacted with this protester.

00:09:13.000 I did not speak to him.

00:09:14.000 I did not make any hand gestures or other aggressive moves.

00:09:17.000 Meanwhile, Phillips said, I read it.

00:09:19.000 I didn't agree with it.

00:09:20.000 They looked like a lynch mob.

00:09:22.000 Really, did they look like a lynch mob?

00:09:23.000 Because it seems to me that you stood there banging a drum in a guy's face for like 10 minutes and then you left.

00:09:28.000 That's what it looked like to me.

00:09:30.000 Now, what's amazing is that people are still taking this guy at his word.

00:09:34.000 As I said yesterday, we have this presumption when it comes to people on the left lying about things that happen, that they're not actually lying, that we have to take their statements with the greatest benefit of the doubt possible.

00:09:44.000 It's the same reaction that led people to believe, as President Obama did, about Ferguson, Missouri.

00:09:49.000 People don't just make this sort of stuff up.

00:09:51.000 Sometimes, people make things up.

00:09:52.000 Of every race.

00:09:53.000 Of every race, people make things up.

00:09:56.000 In this particular case, Nathan Phillips made stuff up about high school students, the media swallowed it, hook, line, and sinker, and ran with it, and continues some of them to run with it.

00:10:06.000 Now, Town Hall is reporting, Covington Catholic Principal Bob Rowe has closed school on Tuesday in the wake of the weekend's controversy.

00:10:12.000 The media tore into student Nick Sandman after a video suggested he had harassed a Native American veteran.

00:10:17.000 When more footage came out, it turned out Sandman had done nothing wrong.

00:10:21.000 Covington had originally condemned the actions of its students because everybody reacts too quickly to everything, right?

00:10:25.000 I think that there's a basic rule in politics that we all need to apply now.

00:10:29.000 It's what my mom calls the count to ten rule.

00:10:32.000 Before you react, before you tweet anything, before you jump on a bandwagon, count to 10.

00:10:37.000 Really, just take a breath and think about maybe whether you ought to jump on that bandwagon.

00:10:41.000 Now, I'm not going to say that I have that I've never violated that rule.

00:10:43.000 Of course, I violated that rule.

00:10:44.000 I've gotten things wrong in the past.

00:10:46.000 But I think if we all abide by the count to 10 rule, a lot of pain and friction in our culture Would quickly be avoided.

00:10:53.000 Phillips has now rejected Sandman's statement, demanding he write a new one and suggesting that he and his peers be considered for expulsion.

00:10:59.000 He didn't accept any responsibility, Phillips said.

00:11:01.000 That lack of responsibility, I don't accept it.

00:11:04.000 And then Phillips turned down an opportunity to sit down and meet with a group of Covington students.

00:11:08.000 First of all, I don't think the students should sit down with this guy.

00:11:11.000 This guy lied about them.

00:11:11.000 Why should they sit down with a person who slandered them?

00:11:13.000 I wouldn't.

00:11:13.000 there'd have to be certain assurances in place, give and take and understanding.

00:11:17.000 First of all, I don't think the student should sit down with this guy.

00:11:19.000 This guy lied about them.

00:11:20.000 Why should they sit down with a person who slandered them?

00:11:24.000 I wouldn't.

00:11:25.000 What the hell would be the point?

00:11:27.000 The answer is, of course, there is no point It's absurd.

00:11:30.000 So, these kids have nothing to apologize for from where I sit.

00:11:33.000 I'm not seeing any evidence they have anything to apologize for.

00:11:36.000 In a second, I'm going to explain how this story went viral in the first place because it's pretty, it's pretty amazing.

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00:12:50.000 All right, so how did this thing go viral in the first place?

00:12:54.000 How did this thing originally go viral?

00:12:56.000 Well, it turns out that there were a bunch of fake accounts that were promoting it.

00:13:00.000 So it's hilarious.

00:13:01.000 The entire left, which has been consumed with the idea that Russian bots twisted the 2016 election, fell for a bunch of fake accounts on Twitter promoting this stuff.

00:13:10.000 So according to CNN.com, Twitter suspended an account on Monday afternoon that helped spread a controversial encounter between a Native American elder and a group of high school students wearing Make America Great Again hats.

00:13:20.000 The account claimed to belong to a California schoolteacher.

00:13:23.000 Its profile photo was not of a schoolteacher, but of a blogger based in Brazil.

00:13:27.000 Twitter suspended the account after CNN Business asked about it.

00:13:29.000 The account, with the username 2020fight, was set up in December 2016 and appeared to be the tweet of a woman named Talia living in California, teacher and advocate, fighting for 2020.

00:13:39.000 Since the beginning of the year, the account had tweeted on average 130 times a day and had more than 40,000 followers.

00:13:45.000 Late on Friday, the account posted the minute-long video, and that video was viewed 2.5 million times.

00:13:51.000 And then it turns out that there are a bunch of viral accounts that started promoting all of this stuff.

00:13:57.000 In one indicator of the 2020 video's virality, multiple newsrooms, including some national American outlets, reached out to the user asking them directly about the video.

00:14:07.000 Molly McHugh is an information warfare researcher who saw the tweet and shared it herself on Saturday.

00:14:11.000 She later realized a network of anonymous accounts were working to amplify the video.

00:14:15.000 So in other words, for all the talk about how everybody ought to beware of bots and confirmation bias, everybody is subject to it.

00:14:22.000 And it was obvious in this particular case.

00:14:26.000 Now, in a second, I'm going to explain to you a little bit more about the Native American elder at the center of this controversy, because it turns out this is not his first time pulling this sort of stunt.

00:14:35.000 So, Ryan Saavedra reports over at my site, Daily Wire, quote, The Native American man at the center of the controversy involving a group of Trump supporting high school boys from Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky has a history of claiming disrespect and racism by students.

00:14:49.000 Nathan Phillips claimed in April 2015 that a group at Eastern Michigan University were racist toward him after he approached them while they were participating in an American Indian-themed party.

00:14:58.000 They had little feathers on, I was just gonna walk by, Phillips claimed.

00:15:00.000 A group of them said, come on over here, come here.

00:15:02.000 Then they started whooping and hollering.

00:15:04.000 I said, that wasn't honoring, that was racist.

00:15:05.000 Then at that time, it got really ugly.

00:15:07.000 He claimed the students yelled racial slurs at him and threw a beer can at him. 0.51

00:15:10.000 They said, go back to the reservation, you blank Indian, he said.

00:15:13.000 He says he called the police.

00:15:14.000 By the time they showed up, it was like there was no party there.

00:15:16.000 At all.

00:15:17.000 Fox 2 Detroit asked Phillips why he decided to approach the students, why he didn't just walk away.

00:15:21.000 Phillips said, for me to just walk by and have a blind eye to it, something just didn't allow me to do it.

00:15:26.000 Well, the alleged incident from 2015 mirrors a lot of exactly what he was claiming here.

00:15:32.000 In a now-deleted article from ABC 7 Detroit, the Eastern Michigan University said they were investigating the alleged incident, but residents at the address where the alleged incident happened told 7 Action News none of them were at Saturday's party and declined to comment.

00:15:45.000 So, again, maybe his original allegations in 2015 were true, maybe they weren't.

00:15:51.000 But his allegations now certainly are not true.

00:15:53.000 And they were pushed by the media anyway, and you can tell, at this point, it's pretty obvious.

00:15:57.000 Again, let's give people the benefit of the doubt to the extent of saying maybe some people honestly got this wrong Friday and Saturday.

00:16:02.000 If you are still pushing the debunked story today, Then there's no way to give you the benefit of the doubt.

00:16:06.000 Right?

00:16:07.000 You just can't.

00:16:08.000 There's no way to give you the benefit of the doubt.

00:16:10.000 And what's even more amazing is folks who are making clear what their real agenda here is.

00:16:14.000 Okay?

00:16:15.000 Their real agenda here is that they hate the March for Life.

00:16:17.000 Okay?

00:16:17.000 That's really what this was about.

00:16:18.000 The entire reason the media covered this is because they hate the March for Life, they hate people wearing MAGA hats, and they decided that people wearing MAGA hats at the March for Life, that was a twofer.

00:16:26.000 And if you were white, it was a threefer. 0.98

00:16:28.000 That means that they had to be crazy and racist and they had to be kooks. 0.99

00:16:32.000 Alyssa Milano made this absolutely clear, right? 0.96

00:16:35.000 Famed great thinker who shows up at Supreme Court confirmation hearings wearing like handmaid's tail outfits, Alyssa Milano.

00:16:42.000 You know, most famous for being in Charmed and then nothing else for the last 20 years.

00:16:46.000 So she tweeted out, she tweeted out yesterday, with regard to these Covington High School kids, something incredible.

00:16:53.000 So what she tweeted out, let me find the exact tweet because it really is pretty astonishing.

00:16:58.000 She said that, sorry, scrolling through her tweets here.

00:17:02.000 She said, here, quote, Let's not forget, this entire event happened because a group of boys went on a school-sanctioned trip to protest against a woman's right to her own body and reproductive health care.

00:17:12.000 It is not debatable that bigotry was at play from the start.

00:17:16.000 In other words, everyone at the March for Life, all 500,000 people, 600,000 people, All of those people were bigots.

00:17:23.000 All of them.

00:17:23.000 Because they opposed Alyssa Milano on abortion.

00:17:25.000 And that's where we are as a country.

00:17:27.000 These kids were preemptively bigots because they happened to be there marching for the rights of the unborn.

00:17:32.000 Because toxic masculinity involves protecting children who have not yet been born. 0.91

00:17:36.000 And let's be real about this.

00:17:37.000 All the blowback that everyone at the March for Life is getting is about one thing and one thing only, their presence at the March for Life.

00:17:42.000 That is all this is about.

00:17:44.000 If this had just been a random political event, if this had just been nothing to do with Trump, nothing to do with the March for Life, if this had just been Comic-Con, none of this would have been an issue.

00:17:52.000 None of it.

00:17:52.000 This is all about trying to destroy anyone who's remotely associated with the March for Life and the media bandwagon jumping on anyone who was there in order to derive these nutso narratives that they're attempting to push.

00:18:05.000 We are now living in an age of anti-religious bigotry.

00:18:08.000 You can see it.

00:18:10.000 Right?

00:18:10.000 This is... It's amazing.

00:18:12.000 Right?

00:18:13.000 It's amazing to see the anti-religious bigotry.

00:18:15.000 And by the way, you're starting to see people push even more false narrative about the Covington kids.

00:18:20.000 Like, there's a video that is currently going around that shows, supposedly, a kid shouting to a girl, it's not rape if you enjoy it.

00:18:29.000 It turns out that that kid doesn't go to Covington High.

00:18:32.000 The kid doesn't go to Covington High.

00:18:34.000 In a group of 600,000 people, you think you might be able to spot, like, one nut?

00:18:38.000 Probably.

00:18:39.000 But the attempt to smear the entire march and entire high school and all these kids, it's just... It's horrifying.

00:18:44.000 It's horrifying.

00:18:45.000 And as I say, it is part of a broader anti-religious agenda that extends back into last week, as we saw, and even before that.

00:18:51.000 And let's face it, the mainstream left in this country has moved in an anti-religious direction.

00:18:55.000 It used to be that religious warfare in the country was basically internecine.

00:19:00.000 You know, Tom Lehrer, who's a famous comedic songwriter back in the 60s, he had a funny song called International Brotherhood Week, or National Brotherhood Week.

00:19:09.000 And in the middle of the song, he starts talking about religious hatred.

00:19:11.000 He says, and the Protestants hate the Catholics, and the Catholics hate the Protestants, and the Hindus hate the Muslims, and everybody hates the Jews, right? 0.58

00:19:18.000 That's sort of usually how religious warfare works.

00:19:21.000 But we're now living in a time Where the secular left has decided to take on everyone of traditional Judeo-Christian values, whether it is Karen Pence teaching at a religious school, whether it is the Knights of Columbus, or whether it is these kids who are acting out their Catholic faith by going to the March for Life rally.

00:19:35.000 That's what this is really about.

00:19:36.000 This is about a deep-seated conflict between folks who cannot stand the presence of religion in everyday life and people who are religious.

00:19:43.000 That's all this is about.

00:19:44.000 And they're finding excuses for this sort of behavior everywhere.

00:19:48.000 They're trying to redefine Christianity to meet their political needs.

00:19:53.000 There's a guy named Adam Latz.

00:19:54.000 He has a piece today at the Washington Post in which he suggests that Karen Pence, for example, who is teaching at a Christian school that requires kids to abide by traditional Christian values, that they can't rely on Christianity.

00:20:05.000 This is just pure bigotry masquerading as Christianity. 0.87

00:20:08.000 This is the way so many on the left view actual traditional Christianity.

00:20:12.000 It's a basket of bigotries masquerading as religion.

00:20:15.000 And so if we could just strip away the religious veneer, the bigotry would remain and we would see all these people for the bad people they are. 0.87

00:20:20.000 Karen Pence is actually a bigot. 1.00

00:20:21.000 She's not a religious woman. 0.79

00:20:23.000 According to Adam Latz, you know, we can't take that at face value when Karen Pence says she's religious or when these Covington High School kids say they are religious.

00:20:31.000 Because the truth is, religion has been open to interpretation for a very long time.

00:20:35.000 Anybody who makes the claim that certain basic creedal truths of doctrine are open to interpretation that have not changed for 2,000 years.

00:20:44.000 And I'm not talking about metaphorical interpretation of the six days of creation and the Sabbath.

00:20:51.000 And I'm not talking about the interpretation of slavery, which is not mandated by the Bible.

00:20:55.000 I'm talking about things like, do not do X. If it says in the Bible, do not do X, you know what the Bible generally means by that?

00:21:01.000 Do not do X, which means it is a religious truth. 0.89

00:21:05.000 But folks on the left don't want to acknowledge that.

00:21:07.000 They would prefer to castigate anyone who disagrees with them as an inherent sinner.

00:21:11.000 As an inherent bad person.

00:21:12.000 That's really where they want to go.

00:21:14.000 That really religion is a cover for bigotry.

00:21:16.000 Okay, in just a second, I want to talk about the new radicalism inside the Democratic Party.

00:21:20.000 It is moving very, very quickly.

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00:22:37.000 Okay, so meanwhile, the Democratic Party is moving leftward radically.

00:22:41.000 And leading that charge is, of course, the effervescent Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:22:47.000 That is the thing that really matters.

00:22:50.000 That's the thing, is that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is effervescent. 0.97

00:22:53.000 She's fantastic.

00:22:53.000 And they're moving in a radical direction.

00:22:55.000 So, example.

00:22:57.000 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said something that was neither morally true nor factually true, but demonstrates the catastrophic thinking that has taken over the Democratic Party.

00:23:05.000 She was speaking yesterday, and she says that millennials believe that the world will end in 12 years.

00:23:10.000 Okay, Nostradamus, lay it on us.

00:23:12.000 The world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change.

00:23:16.000 And your biggest issue is... Your biggest issue is how are we going to pay for it?

00:23:25.000 And, like, this is the war.

00:23:27.000 This is our World War II.

00:23:32.000 So much sciencing.

00:23:34.000 So much sciencing.

00:23:35.000 Can she give us, like, an exact date?

00:23:38.000 Can we make a movie about it?

00:23:39.000 You know, like, there was 2012, and it came out a few years ago, like, in 2012, about the end of the world and Mayan prophecies or something.

00:23:45.000 Can she, like, I think that when she does that, when she, like, the world's gonna end in, like, 12 years.

00:23:49.000 I know, first of all, I know someone who's speaking science when they add the word, like, before their estimate of a disaster.

00:23:54.000 When they say things akin to, when they say something like, hey, the world is going to end in, like, 52 years.

00:24:02.000 I know to take it super seriously because of the like that precedes the 12 years.

00:24:05.000 That's that's really where I know it's going.

00:24:07.000 Also, I find it hilarious that Alexander Ocasio-Cortez is making the claim that the world is going to end in 12 years.

00:24:13.000 So we like have to do everything we can.

00:24:15.000 It's just like World War Two, like, whoa, whoa.

00:24:18.000 OK, so we got to do everything.

00:24:20.000 It's a crisis.

00:24:21.000 We got to do like we're worried about how much money things are going to cost now.

00:24:24.000 Like who's going to care?

00:24:25.000 We're all going to be dead, yo.

00:24:29.000 Okay, so let's assume that's true.

00:24:32.000 Let's assume the world is ending in 12 years.

00:24:35.000 First of all, nothing you do now is going to stop what's going to happen in 12 years.

00:24:39.000 If the climate science really suggested that in 12 years we're all going to be dead, that there's going to be a giant fireball from the sky that fries the earth, ain't nothing you can do about it.

00:24:46.000 And you paying higher taxes ain't going to solve the problem either.

00:24:49.000 Number two, if it's preventable, if Alexander Ocasio-Cortez believes that global warming is going to kill us all in 12 years, and what it really requires is us to get together a crew comprised of Ben Affleck and Bruce Willis to go on a space mission, To the sun, to stop the sun from killing us all in 12 years.

00:25:08.000 Maybe she should trade some of her legislative priorities for all the money necessary to make this happen.

00:25:12.000 So, proposal to congressional Democrats.

00:25:14.000 If you believe that the crisis of humankind is dependent on your tax rates, why don't you just say, how about this?

00:25:20.000 How about this?

00:25:21.000 We'll just go full pro-life.

00:25:22.000 We'll ban all abortions, right? 0.85

00:25:24.000 No more abortions. 0.99

00:25:25.000 And for that, we will trade the spending that you want.

00:25:28.000 Seems like a pretty good deal.

00:25:30.000 After all, we're preserving the future of humanity here.

00:25:32.000 I just love the idea that she's a pro-science human.

00:25:36.000 She's a reasonable, pro-science person who knows things, people.

00:25:40.000 She knows things.

00:25:42.000 That is an astonishing clip.

00:25:45.000 I had my producers pull that before I'd actually listened to the entire thing word for word.

00:25:49.000 It is pretty wonderful. 0.98

00:25:50.000 That wasn't the only dumb thing that she decided to say. 0.87

00:25:52.000 And again, she is now leading this Green New Deal push, being praised by the intelligentsia on the left. 0.98

00:25:58.000 Alexander Ocasio-Cortez also says it is immoral, immoral that billionaires exist.

00:26:03.000 So here she was yesterday explaining not only is the world going to end in 12 years, but it is immoral that billionaires exist.

00:26:08.000 Well, I have a solution for the billionaires existing.

00:26:10.000 In 12 years, the world won't exist.

00:26:11.000 It won't matter anymore because everybody will be dead.

00:26:13.000 So I guess that solves the problem.

00:26:15.000 There's no more billionaires.

00:26:16.000 I mean, there's no more other people either, but there's that.

00:26:18.000 Also, I'm just wondering, if she thinks it's immoral that billionaires exist, how does she think that half the globe was raised out of dire, extreme poverty in the last 30 years?

00:26:28.000 I saw CNN tweeting this nonsense out yesterday, too.

00:26:30.000 I'll explain in just a second.

00:26:31.000 Here's AOC, in all of her eminent wisdom, explaining economics.

00:26:37.000 Do we live in a moral world that allows for billionaires?

00:26:39.000 Is that a moral outcome in and of itself?

00:26:41.000 No.

00:26:41.000 It's not.

00:26:43.000 It's not.

00:26:43.000 I don't think that necessarily means that all billionaires are immoral.

00:26:49.000 But I do think a system that allows billionaires to exist when there are parts of Alabama where people are still getting ringworm because they don't have access to public health is wrong.

00:27:04.000 Okay, so I love that the system that exists is just unfair.

00:27:08.000 You know, I'm not saying billionaires are bad people.

00:27:10.000 Okay, so these two things cannot coincide, right?

00:27:12.000 If you say that billionaires are not bad people who are not exploiting people, then how do you rip the system that creates billionaires?

00:27:18.000 Really, if you have a free classroom, and the classroom is a free place of intellectual inquiry, and some students do better than other students, And you say, you know what?

00:27:26.000 I'm not ripping on the students who do better, because that would not be right.

00:27:29.000 I mean, they're good kids.

00:27:31.000 But I'm just ripping on a system that allows those students to succeed.

00:27:35.000 You can't have it both ways.

00:27:36.000 Either the billionaires are exploiters, which is why we should dock them their money, or they haven't done anything wrong, in which case you are just a jealous creep who wants to steal their money and give it to somebody else because you think that you are fairer than a system of free enterprise.

00:27:49.000 I love the idea that you can sort of destroy the foundational notions of free enterprise by saying that you shouldn't be able to make a certain amount of money.

00:27:57.000 And then you can assume that all of the gains of free enterprise will remain.

00:28:01.000 That it doesn't kill the entrepreneurial spirit, that it doesn't destroy the ability to create and design new products.

00:28:07.000 America's economy is dynamic specifically because we have lots of billionaires.

00:28:11.000 Seriously.

00:28:12.000 Bill Gates, you take away his entire profit motivation after he makes a million dollars, because a million dollars is rich, right?

00:28:17.000 You take away his entire profit motivation, how many people do you think he hires at Microsoft?

00:28:20.000 You think he's just going to work for the public dole?

00:28:22.000 That ain't happening.

00:28:24.000 And the fact is, the billionaires are the people who create the jobs for a lot of other people.

00:28:29.000 And they're not creating the jobs because they're wonderful, nice people.

00:28:32.000 They're creating the jobs because they need to hire people so they can continue making money.

00:28:35.000 The free market system is a way of turning selfishness into altruism.

00:28:39.000 The free market system means that my desire for additional profit means that I have to give you something that you want.

00:28:46.000 CNN tweeted something out like this yesterday.

00:28:49.000 12,000 billionaires own more wealth than the bottom 50% of the world's population.

00:28:52.000 Okay, so?

00:28:54.000 Honest to God, so?

00:28:56.000 There are people in LA right now who own a lot more money than I do.

00:28:59.000 Have they stolen their money from me?

00:29:01.000 Did they steal my money in any way?

00:29:02.000 If the answer is no, then you're just being jealous.

00:29:04.000 If the answer is no, then you just want to undermine the greatest system for the alleviation of poverty in the history of humanity.

00:29:11.000 A system that does not allow the confiscation of wealth from other people just because you are jealous of them.

00:29:15.000 Okay, so we have two big hits from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over the last 24 hours.

00:29:19.000 One, the world is ending in 12 years.

00:29:21.000 Two, even though the world is ending in 12 years, what we really have to worry about is the rich people who have ensured that poor people can get out of poverty.

00:29:28.000 I'll give you the third radical silly thing that she said in just a second.

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00:30:58.000 Okay, so the third stupid thing that Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez said in the last 24 hours is she called for racial reparations. 1.00

00:31:10.000 Racial reparations. 0.99

00:31:11.000 Why?

00:31:12.000 Well, why don't we let her explain? 0.96

00:31:15.000 Economically speaking, when we talk about the issue of, say, reparations, people think about reparations as reparations for slavery.

00:31:26.000 But really, economically speaking, reparations are for the damage done by the New Deal and redlining. 0.76

00:31:32.000 Because that is where we saw a compounding of the existing inequity from the legacy of slavery, where we drew red lines around black communities.

00:31:44.000 In the New Deal? 0.55

00:31:46.000 The New Deal?

00:31:48.000 Really?

00:31:48.000 I like that people are sort of cheering.

00:31:50.000 Nobody has any idea what she's talking about because that makes no sense.

00:31:52.000 What is she even talking about?

00:31:53.000 If she wants to say Jim Crow, okay. 0.98

00:31:56.000 But the New Deal?

00:31:57.000 Like the thing FDR did?

00:31:58.000 I thought you guys liked that.

00:31:59.000 Aren't you calling your environmental program the Green New Deal?

00:32:04.000 Which would be really bad branding if you think the New Deal was racist and about redlining.

00:32:08.000 That's real weird.

00:32:10.000 But here is the new democratic platform.

00:32:11.000 You're all going to die in 12 years.

00:32:12.000 Steal the billionaire's money and racial reparations. 0.98

00:32:15.000 Great.

00:32:16.000 So this is the new Democratic Party.

00:32:17.000 Now, the good news for Republicans is that the Democratic base, at least members of the primary base, seem to be eating all of this up.

00:32:23.000 What that means is that they are very interested in pushing forward the race issue particularly.

00:32:29.000 That means that in 2020, the person who has the upper hand is Kamala Harris, the senator from California.

00:32:35.000 After all, she has no record in the Senate except for ripping on Catholics and lying about Brett Kavanaugh, and she happens to be with black and a woman.

00:32:40.000 So those are the things that matter in the Democratic primary. 0.84

00:32:43.000 She lied about Brett Kavanaugh.

00:32:44.000 She attacked Catholics. 0.97

00:32:47.000 And she also is both black and a woman, which is super duper important because things. 1.00

00:32:54.000 Very important that she is that she is a racial minority and that she is a woman, because after all, stuff.

00:33:00.000 So Kamala Harris announced that she was going to be running for president, and everybody in the media was very excited, and no one outside the media was very excited.

00:33:08.000 Here is Kamala Harris, whose chief qualification for being president of the United States is that she was a terrible attorney general in my home state of California. 1.00

00:33:14.000 Here she is.

00:33:15.000 We've got to reach out to folks.

00:33:18.000 We've got to go where they are, understand who they are.

00:33:23.000 We have to listen as much as we talk.

00:33:26.000 And that is certainly what I intend to do as a candidate for the President of the United States.

00:33:31.000 It is my full intention to travel this country and to sit in living rooms and to listen to families and let them express their concerns and their needs and understand that when we take on these positions it is about representing all of the people of the country.

00:33:47.000 Wow, riveting stuff from Kamala Harris.

00:33:49.000 Her program is she's going to sit there and listen to you. 0.99

00:33:52.000 So if you need a traveling psychiatrist who can't prescribe drugs and also is not qualified, Kamala Harris is your lady.

00:33:58.000 She's going to come to your house, knock on your door, and listen to all your problems, and then leave and tell you she solved all your problems because America is a terrible place. 0.96

00:34:05.000 What's amazing is because everybody sort of knows that Kamala Harris has A particular advantage when it comes to the primaries, namely the same advantage that Barack Obama had over Hillary Clinton in 2008, which is that 30% of the primary voting base of the Democratic Party is black.

00:34:18.000 And they voted in solidarity in 2008.

00:34:20.000 A lot of black folks voted overwhelmingly for Barack Obama in 2008.

00:34:24.000 Kamala Harris has an upper hand. 1.00

00:34:25.000 That means that the number one thing that all of the Democratic candidates now have to do is racially pander.

00:34:31.000 This is legitimately like first on the priority list.

00:34:33.000 So Joe Biden, who wants to run for president for the 19th time, and happens to be old and white, he is going to now pander as much as he possibly can to racial minorities suggesting that Donald Trump is a racist. 0.87

00:34:47.000 So the way that you are going to be able to overcome the fact that he's an old white man is by pointing to the other old white man in the White House and saying, that guy's a racist. 0.97

00:34:53.000 And I'm standing for you because he's a racist. 0.97

00:34:56.000 So here is Joe Biden doing that routine yesterday.

00:34:57.000 We've learned in the last two years, it doesn't take much to awaken hate, to bring those folks out from under the rocks that part of American society has always been there, will always be there, but has been legitimized.

00:35:16.000 We have to speak out.

00:35:20.000 We have to...

00:35:22.000 We have to challenge these forces.

00:35:24.000 When he says all of this, you know, it's honestly, it's a point of real annoyance for me.

00:35:31.000 The idea that he's allowed to get away with the great lie that racism started with President Trump.

00:35:36.000 It's just, it's just a lie.

00:35:38.000 And it's the truth is that if you look at the actual polling data, what you will see is that racism not only did not start with Trump, the rise of racial polarization, Did not start with President Trump.

00:35:47.000 It actually started and began to widen under Barack Obama.

00:35:49.000 I'm looking at the polling data right this minute.

00:35:52.000 Take, for example, race relations.

00:35:53.000 By Gallup poll data, just 45% of Americans were worried about race relations either a great deal or a fair amount in March 2008, right?

00:36:00.000 That was the middle of the 2008 election.

00:36:01.000 By March 2015, that number had risen to 55%.

00:36:03.000 By March 2016, that number was 62%.

00:36:04.000 had risen to 55%.

00:36:05.000 By March 2016, that number was 62%.

00:36:08.000 So in the course of eight years under Barack Obama, the number of Americans who were worried about race relations, either a great deal or a fair amount, had risen 17 points.

00:36:18.000 Hey, but right now it's at 64%, so it's only risen a couple of percent since Trump was elected.

00:36:23.000 But it had risen 17 points between when Obama was elected and when Obama was leaving office.

00:36:28.000 Does that suggest that racism in America is due to Trump?

00:36:30.000 Or is it possible that the left's constant focus on racial polarization for political gain actually had a cost?

00:36:37.000 It doesn't matter.

00:36:38.000 Democrats are going to continue to push forward this nonsense.

00:36:40.000 And it's not just Joe Biden.

00:36:41.000 It's also Bernie Sanders.

00:36:43.000 It's kind of fascinating.

00:36:45.000 Bernie Sanders ran as a kind of post-racial socialist in 2016.

00:36:51.000 In his campaign, he was asked about racial issues and it caused some real tension with folks like Ta-Nehisi Coates who said, well, Bernie Sanders just doesn't understand racism because Bernie Sanders keeps saying that socialism is a cure for racism.

00:37:02.000 Bernie Sanders' take is basically that under socialism, everybody is viewed equally, and so if we redistribute the wealth, then racism will automatically go away.

00:37:09.000 And folks like Ta-Nehisi Coates were saying, well, that's pretty short-sighted.

00:37:12.000 Well, now Bernie Sanders, because he wants to run again, feels the need to reach out and win more minority votes if he wants to head off people like Kamala Harris.

00:37:20.000 So now he's going to go full bore on the Trump is a racist train, even though over the last couple of years he's been Kinda dicey about just calling Trump a racist.

00:37:27.000 Now this is going to be the coin of the realm. 0.93

00:37:29.000 The entry cost for becoming a Democratic presidential candidate is going to be calling President Trump a racist.

00:37:34.000 Today we talk about justice and today we talk about racism. 0.85

00:37:39.000 And I must tell you, it gives me no pleasure to tell you that we now have a President of the United States who is a racist. 0.96

00:37:51.000 OK, so this is what we are going to hear from now until election time from every Democrat is how racist President Trump is. 0.75

00:37:57.000 Now, as I've said before, I'm not going to defend every statement that President Trump has made, particularly not about Charlottesville.

00:38:03.000 But if you want to call President Trump a racist, you're going to need to do a little bit better.

00:38:06.000 Then I changed my mind in the last five minutes when I was running for president.

00:38:10.000 It's pretty amazing.

00:38:11.000 OK, so time for a quick update on the government shutdown.

00:38:13.000 Remember that thing's going on?

00:38:14.000 Remember how there was this government shutdown and like a bunch of people aren't getting paid?

00:38:17.000 It turns out all you have to do is misdirect to a bunch of high school students and then no one cares about the government shutdown anymore.

00:38:26.000 Pretty amazing.

00:38:26.000 Oh, quick note.

00:38:27.000 Breaking poll.

00:38:28.000 I should just point this out. 0.99

00:38:29.000 There's a poll about Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, whose myriad stupidities we just pointed out. 0.98

00:38:35.000 A new poll shows that 74% of Democrats would consider voting for Ocasio-Cortez if she were old enough to run for president, including 17% who would definitely vote for her. 0.94

00:38:44.000 She tops Senator Chuck Schumer in favorability among Democrats and overall nearly rivals Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

00:38:51.000 Really incredible.

00:38:52.000 That's how radical the Democrats have moved.

00:38:53.000 Anyway, back to the government shutdown.

00:38:55.000 So the government shutdown continues apace.

00:38:56.000 Democrats have completely ignored, they've completely ignored President Trump's offer And they're doing so out of pure political expediency.

00:39:06.000 A Democratic representative sort of acknowledged that yesterday.

00:39:09.000 His name is Tom Malinowski.

00:39:12.000 He is from New Jersey.

00:39:13.000 And he says that the most painful concession for him to make would be the wall.

00:39:18.000 And he says that if we're going to get the wall, then we need amnesty.

00:39:20.000 I'm only going to trade the wall for amnesty.

00:39:23.000 Remember, there's already border fencing on large parts of our nation's southern border.

00:39:28.000 But the wall is what really has him, really has him upset.

00:39:31.000 Painful concession. 1.00

00:39:33.000 For me to make as a Democrat who ran against this kind of stupidity and fear would be money for a border wall. 0.99

00:39:40.000 If you want me to consider something like that, I need to see comprehensive immigration reform. 0.99

00:39:46.000 I need to see an end to the cruelties of the last two years.

00:39:50.000 If President Trump wants border security on his terms, I've got to see America restored as a welcoming country of immigrants and refugees.

00:39:59.000 Okay, so this is the new Democratic agenda is border wall bad, except for the current border fencing that's in place.

00:40:05.000 That border fencing is good.

00:40:06.000 Now, how is this all going to play out?

00:40:07.000 Well, yesterday, aviation unions were coming out and explaining that if this shutdown continues very much longer, you're going to see massive numbers of flights canceled because there are just too many people who are dependent on federal government largesse and the TSA for their flights.

00:40:22.000 Here is one of the heads of one of the aviation unions, Sarah Nelson, International President of the Association of Flight Attendants, saying federal workers being shut down, not getting paid, it's going to lead to a massive private strike that is going to shut down the airline industry.

00:40:36.000 These workers can't do their job.

00:40:38.000 I can't do mine.

00:40:39.000 And these federal workers cannot cash thank yous.

00:40:43.000 They can't.

00:40:43.000 They've got stressors on their family.

00:40:45.000 They can't even put a tank of gas in their car to get to work.

00:40:48.000 And as this starts to crumble and unravel, we're going to see mass flight cancellations.

00:40:55.000 We're going to see a system that completely unravels and falls apart.

00:40:58.000 We will not have private jets taking off to get people to the Super Bowl.

00:41:02.000 No one will be able to get to Atlanta.

00:41:04.000 This is going to have a massive economic impact.

00:41:07.000 So then the question is going to be who gets blamed for all of this.

00:41:09.000 Now, here's the truth.

00:41:10.000 The airline industry never should have been federalized.

00:41:12.000 The airline industry never should have been federalized.

00:41:14.000 It all should have been done privately.

00:41:16.000 There's no reason the taxpayers should be footing the bill for the airline industry.

00:41:19.000 It would not have been that difficult for air traffic controllers to be privately hired by a consortium of flight companies, have each company do its own security.

00:41:28.000 It would actually be a selling point whose security was best.

00:41:31.000 But because we federalize everything, it's now become a federal issue.

00:41:34.000 With that said, if flights start getting shut down, there's going to be additional pressure to stop the government shutdown.

00:41:39.000 And that's why Republicans, President Trump, they need to be laying the groundwork right this very minute for saying the Democrats are being completely unreasonable.

00:41:45.000 Every tweet Trump sends should be on how unreasonable Democrats are being.

00:41:49.000 He should be at the border right now, pointing to open spaces in the border where people are walking across and saying, all they have to do is fund this, this five feet right here, and we can end this government shutdown.

00:41:59.000 But they hate me so much, they won't do it.

00:42:01.000 This is time for a full court press by Republicans, because Democrats simply don't care.

00:42:05.000 They think they can wait around and let the media do their bidding for them.

00:42:07.000 And they're right.

00:42:08.000 The media will do their bidding for them.

00:42:10.000 The media are not going to ask serious questions of Democrats.

00:42:12.000 The media are not going to ask guys.

00:42:13.000 $5.7 billion is like 12 hours of federal funding.

00:42:17.000 Twelve hours of it.

00:42:18.000 So why don't you just give over the money?

00:42:20.000 The media won't ask those questions.

00:42:21.000 So Trump is going to have to force the issue.

00:42:23.000 He absolutely should force the issue.

00:42:25.000 Republicans should force the issue.

00:42:26.000 Because this is no longer a fight between Democrats and Republicans.

00:42:29.000 It is a fight between Republicans and the media.

00:42:31.000 And believe it or not, that's a fight that President Trump can win.

00:42:34.000 All he has to do is engage in that fight.

00:42:35.000 Right now he is disengaged, which is kind of shocking to me.

00:42:38.000 The president needs to be personally out there on the stump, beating the war drums.

00:42:42.000 And that's true for everybody on the Republican side of the aisle.

00:42:46.000 Right?

00:42:46.000 They all need to be out there explaining why this is a problem and why all they would have to do is get five cents a nickel out of the cushions in order to pay for this thing.

00:42:54.000 Because when the bleep really hits the fan here, when the flights start getting canceled, the American people are going to turn on somebody.

00:43:00.000 Republicans should ensure that it is not them.

00:43:03.000 All right.

00:43:03.000 Time for a couple of things I like and then some things that I hate.

00:43:07.000 So, things that I like today.

00:43:09.000 There's a book that I just read.

00:43:10.000 I love sports books, so I'm a big sports fan.

00:43:13.000 And there was a league for a little while in the 1980s called the USFL.

00:43:17.000 It was supposed to rival the NFL, and it was supposed to be a spring league.

00:43:20.000 So it wasn't really a direct competitor to the NFL, because the NFL plays in fall and winter.

00:43:23.000 The USFL was supposed to take place in spring.

00:43:25.000 And very early on, it was a big success story.

00:43:28.000 They'd started to pick up some real players, like Steve Young played in the USFL.

00:43:31.000 Herschel Walker played in the USFL.

00:43:33.000 Jim Kelly got his start in the USFL.

00:43:36.000 And the league was actually not bad.

00:43:38.000 A bunch of those players ended up in the NFL when the USFL shut down.

00:43:42.000 The book is really a fun read.

00:43:44.000 It also has a lot about President Trump because President Trump was a team owner in the USFL.

00:43:49.000 And President Trump was, at that time, Donald Trump, was very involved.

00:43:54.000 In sort of the demise of the USFL.

00:43:56.000 So the book is a lot about that.

00:43:57.000 And it gives you a window into how President Trump negotiates.

00:43:59.000 Which is to say, he sort of sets a goal and then doesn't necessarily know how to get there.

00:44:03.000 And it's a real problem for him.

00:44:04.000 So it's a window of insight.

00:44:06.000 Is it biased?

00:44:06.000 I'm sure.

00:44:07.000 But the book itself is really amusing and fun.

00:44:09.000 Okay.

00:44:10.000 Meanwhile, this... I don't know where to put this in Things I... We'll put this in Things I Hate.

00:44:14.000 So let's do some Things I Hate.

00:44:19.000 Okay, so let's talk about what was nominated for Best Picture this year.

00:44:21.000 So the Oscar nominations are finally out.

00:44:23.000 One of the things I love about the fact that the Oscar nominations have been brought in to eight or ten films now, in Best Picture category, is it was supposed to include films people had seen.

00:44:32.000 Out of the films that people, out of all, let's see, how many films were nominated?

00:44:35.000 Eight films.

00:44:36.000 Out of the eight films that have been put up for Best Picture, three are films that people have seen.

00:44:41.000 Black Panther, which is, first of all, it's absurd that Black Panther is nominated for Best Picture.

00:44:45.000 I liked the picture just fine.

00:44:47.000 It was fine.

00:44:48.000 It is insane that it was nominated.

00:44:49.000 It was not even like the third best comic book movie of the year.

00:44:52.000 Into the Spider-Verse was clearly the best comic book movie.

00:44:55.000 And then I would say that Avengers Infinity War is a better movie than Black Panther.

00:45:00.000 Here's for the controversial part.

00:45:01.000 I thought Aquaman was a better movie than Black Panther.

00:45:04.000 I just didn't, I thought it was okay.

00:45:05.000 I thought it was fine.

00:45:06.000 It was, you know, a Marvel movie with a bad ending, but, and it really had one compelling character in Killmonger, but it's nominated for Best Picture.

00:45:13.000 All right, fine. 0.55

00:45:13.000 It's silly. 0.55

00:45:15.000 First comic book movie to be nominated for Best Picture since, I believe, The Dark Knight, which shows you a decline in quality, because The Dark Knight is an all-time great flick.

00:45:21.000 Black Panther will be forgotten seven minutes after this Best Picture Oscars.

00:45:26.000 But the other ones that have been nominated that made some money, Bohemian Rhapsody made some money by a bunch of boomers and Gen Xers who still remember We Are The Champions.

00:45:35.000 And then A Star Is Born made some money because it had Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga.

00:45:39.000 None of those three are going to win Best Picture.

00:45:41.000 The ones that are really up for Best Picture are Black Klansman, which is Spike Lee's film, which I've watched and it's mediocre.

00:45:48.000 It ain't that great.

00:45:49.000 Spike Lee hasn't produced a good movie since Do The Right Thing.

00:45:52.000 The favorite, which is About lesbian affairs in 19th century England. 0.54

00:45:58.000 So, good times.

00:46:00.000 And then there's Green Book, which is everybody's sort of favorite, which means it won't win, right?

00:46:05.000 It's now in the front-runner position, which means there will be a backlash before the Oscars, and then it won't win.

00:46:09.000 Green Book is about an Italian mobster who is a low-level, mob-level enforcer, who's driving a black gay guy through the South in the 1960s. 0.70

00:46:18.000 So it's about how America is intolerant, but tolerant. 0.69

00:46:20.000 We love each other, but we're intolerant.

00:46:23.000 You've heard the story.

00:46:24.000 It's driving Miss Daisy, basically, except in reverse, right?

00:46:27.000 So it's got some problems.

00:46:30.000 Roma, I watched the first seven minutes and I was almost comatose. 1.00

00:46:34.000 It is one of the most boring slow movies I've ever seen.

00:46:37.000 The last 20 minutes of it are good, but that does not justify a nine hour running time.

00:46:41.000 Ben Vice, which is just a hit piece on Dick Cheney.

00:46:43.000 So well done, Hollywood.

00:46:45.000 Once again, nominating a bunch of movies that either no one has seen or are not very good and ignoring the only great picture of the year.

00:46:51.000 There are two.

00:46:51.000 OK, so A Quiet Place is a good picture this year.

00:46:53.000 And then there was a great picture this year, The Death of Stalin, which received zero nominations and is by far the best picture of the year.

00:46:58.000 I raved it at the time.

00:46:59.000 It is the best picture of the year.

00:47:02.000 Got completely shut out because it says Stalin is bad.

00:47:04.000 America's bad?

00:47:05.000 Very good for the Oscars.

00:47:06.000 Stalin is bad?

00:47:07.000 Not so much.

00:47:08.000 And then you get to the other nominations.

00:47:09.000 You've got actress in a supporting role.

00:47:11.000 You've got Amy Adams in Vice because she's nominated for whatever she does. 1.00

00:47:14.000 Marina de Tavira in Roma.

00:47:16.000 Regina King in If Beale Street Could Talk, which I'm surprised wasn't nominated for Best Picture.

00:47:20.000 I've heard it's quite good.

00:47:21.000 And then Emma Stone and Rachel Weisz in The Favorite.

00:47:24.000 Both of whom are playing, you know, the lesbian would-be lovers of the Queen. 0.89

00:47:28.000 And then you've got, you know, actors in a supporting role.

00:47:30.000 Again, all of them are from movies that nobody has actually ever seen.

00:47:33.000 And there's no host this year, which is really exciting.

00:47:35.000 We could have had Kevin Hart, who's at least amusing.

00:47:38.000 But, no, we're not going to do that.

00:47:39.000 Instead, we have to make sure that no one is offended by comments that Kevin Hart made ten years ago.

00:47:46.000 So, well done, Oscars.

00:47:47.000 You've done it again.

00:47:49.000 Excellent, excellent job.

00:47:50.000 Okay, final thing that I hate for today.

00:47:52.000 So, I do have to discuss a comment by Lady Gaga.

00:47:55.000 So, Lady Gaga, we talked about this on yesterday's radio show, which is why you should subscribe, but Lady Gaga...

00:48:02.000 Made a comment at one of her concerts about how Mike Pence is a terrible representative of Christianity.

00:48:08.000 Which makes sense, because when I think of people who are great representatives of Christianity, I usually think about the lady who warbled the song Telephone.

00:48:18.000 That's usually who I think about.

00:48:19.000 I think Jesus, Mary, Joseph, the Pope, Martin Luther, Lady Gaga.

00:48:27.000 In my pantheon of famous Christians. 0.70

00:48:29.000 Here's Lady Gaga ripping into Mike Pence for not being sufficiently Christian. 1.00

00:48:33.000 Mike Pence, who thinks it's acceptable that his wife work at a school that bans LGBTQ.

00:48:39.000 You are wrong.

00:48:40.000 You say we should not discriminate against Christianity. 0.97

00:48:50.000 You are the worst representation of what it means to be a Christian. 1.00

00:48:59.000 So I love that Christianity in our secular pagan world has been boiled down to make other people feel good. 0.97

00:49:05.000 Now, if you read the New Testament, Jesus wasn't famous for the making of the people feel good.

00:49:08.000 That wasn't his thing.

00:49:10.000 Jesus was quite harsh with people.

00:49:12.000 And when he talked to people, when he did the whole, you know, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and the splinter in your eye and the log in your eye, that whole thing, that was followed by go and sin no more, right?

00:49:23.000 So the idea was, you're not supposed to sin.

00:49:25.000 Sin's bad.

00:49:26.000 Don't do it.

00:49:27.000 But apparently the new message of Christianity is the message of Lady Gaga, which is do whatever you want, and it's my job to massage your shoulders.

00:49:33.000 That is not what Christianity is about.

00:49:35.000 It's not what Judeo-Christian religion is about.

00:49:36.000 It's not what morality is about.

00:49:38.000 Boiling down Christianity to a pagan acceptance of bad behavior? 0.88

00:49:43.000 is pretty much the religion we deserve, given today's day and age.

00:49:48.000 As I've said before, I really believe, I mean, in my new book I talk about this, I actually believe that Lady Gaga's Born This Way is the single best expression of the modern mentality when it comes to morality that has been written, and I think it is deeply immoral and pagan.

00:50:00.000 The idea that you have a natural drive to do something, therefore God made you this way, therefore you should probably go and do it.

00:50:06.000 That is precisely the opposite of traditional religion, which suggests that a drive to do something does not justify you actually doing that thing.

00:50:13.000 There's a line in the movie The African Queen, which is a great movie from the 1950s, in which Catherine Hepburn, who is a religious woman, says to another character, nature, Mr. Allnut, is something we are put on earth to overcome.

00:50:24.000 And there's something about that in religion.

00:50:27.000 Lady Gaga, nature is something to surrender to, and if you don't surrender to it, then you are not being Christian. 0.64

00:50:32.000 When you go back and you look at the story of Adam and Eve, one of the questions that is asked is, why is it that what the snake says is so seductive to Eve?

00:50:39.000 Right, metaphorically.

00:50:40.000 The whole story, in my opinion, and in the opinion of many religious scholars, is metaphorical, not literal.

00:50:45.000 In any case, the story is deeply important from a psychological perspective.

00:50:48.000 So Adam and Eve are told by God, don't eat this particular apple from this particular tree.

00:50:52.000 Or don't eat this piece of fruit from this particular tree.

00:50:54.000 And the snake then goes to Eve and says, you know, God's kind of lying to you.

00:50:58.000 Like, everything's going to be okay.

00:50:59.000 You eat from that apple, looks pretty good.

00:51:02.000 It'll be fine.

00:51:03.000 And here's the actual message of what the snake is saying when you go back and look at the text.

00:51:06.000 He's saying, would God have made that apple and make you have a desire for that apple if he didn't mean for you to eat that apple?

00:51:13.000 So who are you going to believe?

00:51:15.000 God or what God actually created for you?

00:51:18.000 If God created the desire, then he wanted you to fulfill the desire because he created you.

00:51:22.000 And he said, OK, that's kind of convincing.

00:51:23.000 And she goes and eats the apple.

00:51:24.000 And that's when God says, no, when I tell you not to do something, I tell you not to do it because it turns out that self-control is one half of becoming a better person.

00:51:33.000 The other half is directing your self-control at the proper object.

00:51:37.000 But according to our modern society, if you have a desire for something, that is in and of itself a justification of action along the lines of that desire.

00:51:45.000 That is a deeply anti-Christian message, so I'm not gonna take tips on Christianity from Lady Gaga.

00:51:50.000 Just not gonna do it because it's absurd.

00:51:51.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here later with a lot more.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - January 22, 2019

It’s The End Of The World As We Know It | Ep. 700

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